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acknowledge me. Everybody, Welcome to the Mailbag. It's time to talk to
you and hear from you here from all listeners about this past week and what
a week it was was SummerSlam. Now behind us, we are into the
fall season really, and fall is it can be a very interesting time in
the world of wrestling. There are you know, season premiers in wrestling which
don't really mean a whole lot, and we've got Survivor Series ahead of us,
of course, pay Back and fast Lane before that, and then we
can start fantasizing about the Rumble. But before we get there, guys,
of course, we want to take a look back here from you here from
the listeners about what the heck you thought about SummerSlam, and you know,
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It's me, It's Rocky te. Okay, Rocky T. So your
email this week is saying that you forgot to mention on your voicemail, which
of course we'll get to in fear of being cut off. Is that me
and the gardener Michael Gross are also collaborating with King's Scully on an episode that
will cover the influence of the UK wrestling in today's wrestling era. That's awesome.
I have no objections to that. Also, the roxam Perez update will
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year and I believe she'll be on the main roster maybe as soon as next
year is draft. Thanks Matt again for having me on Raw the Raw Review
last week. Well, it's pleasure to have you on and good to hear
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you know, I feel like sometimes I'm sitting back. But you guys are
are really the reason that things continue to move forward, getting new voices and
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know, which is, you know, this is something that I don't think
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right now it is going to be a labor of love. You have to
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great team behind you, like Rocky and Michael and Anthony and you know our
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it makes it so much easier. And I really appreciate you guys. So
all right, thank you Rockett. Of course, yes, your voicemail is
forthcoming. Alrighty, let's get to another patron. As always, patrons get
priority. I know voicemailers got a quite a few voicemails today too. This
is from Kyle Detroit. Kyle with his first ever feedback from his live live
experience. He went to Summer Slime and this is what he said. The
Detroit crowd was very hot at first, but the echoes of yeah and USO
throughout the entire building. But as the night went on, the crowd died
down, and by the time we got to Ronda and Shanea it completely died.
Gunther and Drew helped bring it back up, and he cash In became
arguably the loudest pop of the night. Ford Field got really loud of times,
but because it was so large, it might not have come through on
TV. No, it did. It did, and you know, eos
Cashing did come across very strong. I think it rivaled l A Night's victory
in the Battle Royal. And you guys certainly died around Shana and Ronda.
But I don't blame you that that was not an exciting match. It wasn't
an embarrassment, but it was. I mean, I already reviewed it,
but it was just it's difficult to make that an exciting match when people watching
wrestling want to watch wrestling and not MMA, you know what I mean,
It'd be like watching a UFC pay per view and then instead they're like,
well, instead of you know, instead of an actual MMA style competition,
guys, we're gonna do a WWE style match. It's just it's just,
you know, it's not usually a good translation. However, let's move on.
Logan Paul versus Ricochet. You gave it four and a half out of
five stars. You said that's the best match in the night in my opinion.
Great action, great storytelling, fun usage of other wrestlers, moves.
The crowd was really into it, probably more than any other match. Logan
Paul's the real deal, even more impressive in person, and I hope he's
around for a while. Yeah, that's the thing. As good as he
is, though, he's easy to hate and I don't think they understood that
bringing him in as a social media star. I would like them to not
always tell us how many subscribers he has, though, you know what I
mean, Like it's almost like it's a qualification to be here. And I
think the Logan Paul's work speaks for itself. On the MIC, he's better
than he should be, for sure, but there's room for improvement there.
In the ring, he is just I mean, from an athletic standpoint,
he is unbelievable, and Ricochet matches him as well. Nobody would argue if
these two have another match. Cody and Brock three out of five stars.
Brock is a very large man in person. It's very impressive to see him
toss Cody around like a sack of potatoes. He truly is a great performer,
and I must say I thought he did a better job than Cody in
this match with his selling and in ring work. I like the story they
told, but the Crossroads move is the lamest finish ever. It kind of
looks like Cody takes more impact than his opponent. I'm just glad this pointless
feud is over and hopefully they can both move on to something that actually has
a story. By the way, the song choice for the video package was
the wrong choice, and I really liked the energy in the place. Yeah,
that's that. You know, very rarely does the WWE production team misstep
in their video packages. They almost always hit a home run. They're ultra
talented. But the song choice for the Brock and Cody program was very odd
and didn't help the program at all. I agree with that. It's a
very rare misstep by that group. So I'm not gonna you know, I'm
not gonna hammer them too hard. However, you're right about Brock's selling.
I don't think Brock gets enough credit for how well he sells. You know,
he's a big dude and he's dominant, but he's not like and this
is also not a knock on Brey, but he also doesn't know sell things,
and when he does it has meaning. He doesn't know sell it because
that's his gimmick or something. He doesn't when it has meaning, and it's
part of the story. But Brock's selling is underrated. I would agree with
that. But the also the cross Roads. I brought that up to it's
a it's lame, and it's only lame because it's difficult to execute in a
way that doesn't make it look like Cody's taking more of a bump than the
actual his opponent. It's it's I understand it. Oh, it's a twisting,
turning motion. Oh boy, it must be really impactful. Imagine doing
that move in slow mo. And sure you could apply this logic to nearly
any move in pro wrestling, but specifically the Crossroads. Imagine that in slow
motion on a replay. It doesn't look good in real time. I can't
imagine what it would look like in SloMo. It's just bad. I'm sorry,
it's Is it as bad as the Big Ending? No? And other
finishers? No, I just I don't like the Crossroads. It's obviously not
going anywhere. But it's it's just a doesn't look good, and especially when
he needs to do it three times and whatever I've gone on that that ramp
before. All right, twenty five men Battle Royal two and a half out
of five stars. How is the mis getting an entrance but not the US
champion Austin theory? I mean it tells you how far Austin theory has fallen.
I mean Austin theory has just he is off a cliff and sure he's
still the champion, but not for long. He needs a repackaging. I
think, not that he I don't think he should be fired or anything like
that. He just needs a revamp. Lna getting the win was a huge
popa. Please tell me what did Lana actually win? I want to point
out that Chad Gable was amazing in the ring and put on a great show,
very formulaic and predictable Battle Royal, though unfortunately, Yeah, here's the
thing, A couple things. Laena getting the victory. I don't care if
it was predictable. I don't care. The reason is it's the right decision,
you know, predictability. I continue to say this because people continue to
complain about predictability. I don't think predictability is in and of itself a bad
thing if it's the right thing to do. Now, you can have the
best of both worlds sometimes and do something unpredictable. That's the right choice.
That's always the best combination, right where we always want to be surprised and
then go, oh, that was the right decision. But more often than
not you're going to get an outcome that's predictable, but the right decision.
The alternative is they do something unpredictable, but it's the wrong decision. Do
you see what I'm saying. We're choosing kind of the better option of the
two. Now, again, the ideal, the best, the best combination
is unpredictable and the right choice. But you can't always have that. You
can't that. It's just nearly impossible to book. However, the La Night
win, what did he win? He won a starting point, That's what
he won. He won ground zero is what he won. He won a
victory that he can use to continue to finally start doing something with La Night.
That's what it was. And Chad Gable, my god, yeah,
holy, I mean yes. And by the way, Chad Gable doing that,
sup plex, I didn't mentioned this on Raw. That's that's stalled belly
to back suplex on a Champa. I think it was. I mean,
the dude is so underutilized it's unbelievable. Shane and Ronda one out of five
stars. This match killed. The audience worked MM and w W doesn't work.
There were a ton of negative chance during this match, like this is
boring and this looks dumb, bad action, no story enough said, well,
I wouldn't say no story. To be fair, they did as good
of a job as it could have possibly done, trying to build a last
second story with the multi segment video package the week before and the interactions between
Shanna and rond to face to face before that, they did build a story.
I think that's unfair. However, to your point, it was it
wasn't fun to watch at home. I could imagine the live experience for this
one, especially after you watch like Logan, Paul and Ricochet just a few
matches before, and you see brock Lessner, you saw La Night get the
victory, and then you get to Shana and Ronda who just roll around in
the ring for a little while and you know, play pretend fighting. You'll
pretend MMA it's not good. It's just not all right. Gunther and Drew,
as you said, brought up the crowd. This was my second favorite
match of the night. The crowd was deflated from the first at first from
Ronda and Shane it, but these guys are so good they eventually brought it
up and earned this. This is awesome chant. Both look solid in the
ring, and we're very physical and damaging. Whenever one of them hit the
matter or at Chop, it echoed throughout the stadium. Their power bombs were
impressive too, and Drew growing over the top rope was nuts live. Yet
Drew never I don't even know the last bad match Drew was involved in.
No one talks about it. But Drew McIntyre is so consistent with his matches.
It's something that for some reason is over the heads of most people.
But Gunther and Drew. Yeah, I don't know if i'd give it four
out of five. I'd think maybe three and a half for me, just
because for me there's a higher bar. But I'm in the realm of your
review as well or of your rating, and this is awesome chance. Yeah,
they deserve that, and I wouldn't mind seeing them go again. I
think they'll go again and payback. Seth and Finn three A three and a
half out of five stars. I think surprisingly got the fourth biggest pot from
the crowd, behind Cody's entrance, Ellie Knight winning and Eos cash in.
The match was decent but didn't pick up until the last five minutes when Mommy
came out with the judgment day The crowd loved the rest though. Quick side
note Rolin's falcon arrow is one of the prettiest moves in all in WW.
Yes, maybe Cody can adopt that as his finish or adopt like the Mitchinoku
Driver. I mean, can we get rid of I know cross Roads fits.
Oh well, it's part of his name. Isn't that cute? And
it's it is a unique looking finish, but god does it look weak?
Maybe Big did Biggie talk to him about, you know, coming up with
the finish? Was Biggie advising him at the time or something? Oh yeah,
all right? Oscar and Charlotte and Bianca the triple Threat for the Women's
w W Women's Championship. Two and a half out of five stars is what
you gave it. This match was surprisingly slow and sloppy for the talent involved,
and the Bianca injury angle was sold was an obnoxious or rather obvious.
Oh I guess I'll add obnoxious work even live compared to the Shane at Rhonda
match, though this was a banger. That's sad. Bianca was the obvious
crowd favorite and she got a big pop from her entrance. But why wasn't
Oscar the last entrance? Champs are supposed to go last. I don't like
when titles changed with a roll up victory, but we were very happy to
see Bianca win, and way happier if you're the EO cash in. Also,
it was nice to see Dakoda back because I know for I know how
much that moment meant to all of Damage Control. I will say I'm sad
damage control is still a thing. It felt like they kind of dissolved and
no one cared and then all of a sudden they're back, and oh well
a year ago they debuted and look where they are now. Fine, it
was a nice it was a bit of a heartfelt moment. Fine, But
the injury angle, and I mentioned this too, is you know, she
did a good job selling it to the point where she couldn't even put any
weight on her leg at all, and then all of a sudden, you
know, divine intervention struck and she could perform a four fifty, which were
requires you to put not just your your your own body weight, but like
more than that, because you're jumping off of your legs to perform a move
that defies gravity and then of course you come crashing down, so it requires
you to use all of your strength in your leg. And if you actually
had an injury that which in which you could not even put any weight on
it, it's just I understand it's wrestling, it's selling, but like,
come on, and then she immediately goes back to selling it after she performed
the four fifty. It's just like, no, this is not selling.
If it was selling, she would have collapsed right Like she tries to perform,
her leg gives out on her when she tries to do it, and
like that's selling. Selling isn't only when you're not doing a maneuver. And
I think this is not just specific to Bianca. I think it's a kind
of an industry wide issue. Is not just the lack of selling, but
when you're trying to sell an injury that you suddenly can perform on that ligament
or that appendage of your body when you need to perform a move, but
then go back to selling it when you're not doing anything. It's like no,
no, no, no. If you're selling something that should prevent you
from performing a move and make you look vulnerable on a match, find other
ways to win without using that part of your body instead of just oh it
hurts so much, I can't even put any way down it. Hold on,
let me do this four fifties splash. Oh way it hurts again?
Stop it that. I mean, I agree with you. It was great
selling up until she actually needed to do it, and then you're like,
oh, what the hell right, why even bothers selling it if you're not
going to use it as like I know it was supposed to be. Oh
she's overcoming, Oh the end, just stuff, you know, Okay,
I've made my point. Jay versus Roman two and a half out of five
stars. This show was too long. The main event was way too long.
Jay is a great hype man in person. Roman got tons of hate
thrown at him all match long, but I think it was mainly out of
boredom and frustration. It was your typical Roman match plotting, predictable, moving
out a tortoise like pace, and lots of drama and interference at the end.
Honestly, I took a bathroom break during this match and didn't miss a
thing. Most of the audience couldn't see the spot where Solo put Jay through
the table, so I didn't. That didn't pop much. Children was sleeping
throughout this match. We were so tired and disappointed that the crowd bailed as
soon as Roman's name was announced as the winner, not even waiting for any
other surprises, and not counting Jimmy turning on Jay as a surprise because that
was so expected. Overall, the entire show was underwhelming and predictable with no
big surprises. Okay agreed that that was way too long of a main event,
and it does seem to be very formulaic for Roman matches. Plotting every
move is you know, there's there's. I equated it to a pitcher in
baseball between pitches. It's exactly what it felt like here, and that's been
the style for Roman. But there are times when it just becomes too much.
There is a there is a diminishing returns effect here where Okay, yes,
you can go too low. In today's world of wrestling, that it's
too fast. Generally there is such a thing as going too slow, and
I think this match approached it. And uh yeah, so as kids were
sleeping. But to be fair, also this was late at night, way
past a lot of kids' bedtimes, so there is that. But yeah,
okay, Grace, thank you so much Kyle for the very in depth review
of Summer Slam. It is much much appreciated, and we wouldn't have got
We definitely wouldn't have got any of that had you not, had you not
sent it and got that in person perspective. So I'm sorry that it was
disappointed you, I am, But you know, I think the lack of
returns really really annoyed a lot of people, no doubt about it. All
right, let's continue on. Let's get to DJ Kuzmo and mister DJ says
hello a W and w W podcast world. DJ kuz went back at it
again. I had to briefly ran on this, can Triple Hs do something
with those lines on his forehead? Get botox or something, because it's such
an eyesore. Every single every single pl e those forehead lines look like tire
tracks. I've never had anyone talk about Triple H's lines on his forehead,
you know, I think a lot of that is not just genetics and him
aging, although that's some of it. It's a lot of battle scars throughout
his career. I think too. A lot of it has to do with
how many times he bladed. And I mean to think about how many times
Triple H bled, I mean and use you know, used blades, right,
and uh so, I think some of it has to do with that.
Some of it has to do with aging and just genetics, but I
don't know what the cure is, perhaps botox. I don't think that's his
number one priority, but yeah they are. Now everyone's gonna look at Triple
H's forehead. Oh my gosh, the things you guys come up with.
Good stuff. Where the hell am I lost my email? Theratist? Okay,
so still your intercontinental champion, Gunther. I'm gonna say Gunther because I
promised to never pronounce it that way, but I know what you're saying.
It almost just a couple of more, just a couple more days away until
he passes honky Tonk. I think it's twenty eight days. It becomes the
longest reigning in history. I'm looking forward to this icy championship match between him
and Chad Gable, even though Gunther is most likely going to retain. Yeah,
I am too, I'm too. You know, Chad Gables getting a
little bit more of a rubbed than he normally does, and I'm looking forward
to the match as well. After coming up short once again against Gunther's.
Is the time now to turn Drew turned heel turned Drew heel? I will
say that right since Mindonette Raw does not have enough credible heels to challenge Cody.
Drew has not won a Championship match since retaining the title at Chamber in
twenty twenty one inside the Chamber against fellow opponents Jeff Hardy, Gope, Kingston,
aj Styles Chamis and Randy Orton. With his two year championship drought,
do you see potentially that a heeled Drew goes after Rawlins for the title after
Rawlins finishes his few with Nam Yes, unless he gets traded to SmackDown.
Yes. I mean, I can't stress that enough. I think Drew as
a heel is going to refresh his career, give Seth someone to work with
for multiple months, absolutely and could be an actual threat to the World Heavyweight
Championship. And it's very believable to take it off of Seth, not just
a stepping stone or someone he needs to work with the fill time. I
think Drew has a real shot if he turns heel to take it off of
Seth. And Drew's a proven commodity, he can cut promos, He's really
good as a heel. Go back and watch some of his work as a
heel and you'll go, oh wow, there is a lot here, and
there's just he is a mature, polished wrestler. I mean, there's just
no two ways about it. That could be your champion and be a really
good heel champion. The question is does WWE want to pull that trigger of
going back on what they originally intended to set out the world title to be,
which is an anti Roman. So we'll see, all right, One
last thing, speaking of heel turns or slight heel turns, the new Look
Street Profits attack both Baby Faced Teams in the OC and the Brawling Broods during
their match, so obviously I wouldn't assume they are heels. But then Bobby
Lashley appears in the crowd chance Bobby Bobby. I was a little confused,
but I guess the crowd cheer because they haven't seen him in a long time.
My question is, do you think the creative plants for three prophets he'll
turn backfired because of the crowd cheering for Bobby. That's all for now in
DJ Cousmos signing off, Well, I think they're kind of dipping your toe
in little places, right, They're kind of seeing how the crowd's going to
react, and it could have just been one of those oh we haven't seen
him in a while, so we're going to cheer them, and that goes
away quickly, you know, once that return feeling kind of fades away.
Perhaps they do, but I don't know what the long term plans are if
if they're gonna feud, If Bobby lash is gonna feud with eventually Roman reigns,
which I think he should, then they can't keep him heal. So
this is just one night them attacking THEOC and the brawling brutes. First of
all, no one cares about the OC. I'm sorry, no one does.
No one they are they are holler portrayed in WWE has never been to
their benefit. Never and the brawling Brutes. Sure, I mean they have
a little bit of momentum there they were a heel team. They went back
to baby Face, Shamus and Gunther all that. But let's see what week
two, in week three, in week four, bring who they attack,
what they say in the mic, that's going to be key as to what
they're going to be established as. All right, so we'll get the Virmahan
report in just a few moments. Let's get too. Let's get to Mason
and he says, let me talk to you. So first, why the
heck were Michael Cole and Wade bear It on Raw instead of Corey Graves and
Kevin Patrick. And La Knight was there too, so I guess the brand
split juice doesn't exist. Don't get me wrong. I want to see La
Knight as much as possible, so I like that he was there. Also,
if the New Day showed up, why not bring Biggie back too?
Because a month ago, after the Bell podcast with Corey Graves, he said
he would return when the time is right, and I feel like now could
be a perfect time. Last off, this week's question for the listeners,
create any feud between any two superstars for any championship, who would they be
and what would the championship be? Doesn't have to be a current champion.
Good question Mason to pose to everybody. Now, it's so funny. I
really, you know, I didn't even notice that La Knight shouldn't have been
on RAW. I didn't even notice that is something normally I would be right
on top of. I've become so numb to WWE just at will bringing whoever
they want from opposing brands to the opposite show. When the story dictates that
they do it, I'm half angry about it or annoyed by it because I
still don't no matter how many times they do it, I'm not going to
be desensitized to it and just well, that's just WWE doing what they need.
No, no, no, no, Like I hold them accountable.
I hold them to their own damn rules, like being able to tell basic
stories. And why the hell we never were told for a four month feud?
Why Brock attack Cody to begin with, which we still don't know?
I don't. I don't give them a pass on basics. I don't.
But the opposite to this is Ella Knight is a massive rising star. WWE
is testing the fans to see how deep their loyalty goes, and you know,
where they really believe Ellie Knight should be or if he's a fad or,
as miss put it, a flash in the pan. So they're showcasing
him on bull shows where his home is truly SmackDown. They didn't give an
explanation as to why Ellena was there. They just had him there and no
one cared and clearly I did neither. It didn't even notice like Ellena shouldn't
have been there, but that he is being showcased on both shows now because
they know they have something here and they want to see what it is.
So and as far as the whole announced teams, man, I don't know
they. I'm not too upset about that either though, unless you're you know,
a big Kevin Patrick fan, of which I'm not. It didn't really
bother me too much. All right, thanks Mason. Now let's uh,
let's see where we want to go. All right, let's talk to let's
talk to King Scully. He's in the house and he's representing the UK all
day, so let's see what he's got to say. Is that all rhyme?
Oh my god? All right? So King skull. He says,
it's been a few weeks since I last rode in the mailbag, but I'm
here now. I hope you didn't miss me too much. Summer Slim was
decent enough, but the matches were competitive and overall was a good pay per
view. Jimmy screwing Jay didn't make sense. After all, it was Jimmy
who turned on Roman to begin with. But we can see where this is
going. I really enjoyed Michael enjoyed Michael Cole's commentary, and the ending was
quality and I found it amusing. Jimmy, what did you do? Yeah,
that's true. Michael Cole did make it as dramatic as it could have
been. Props to Cole. Sky winning the title was great, loved it
when her music hit Lesner versus Rhodes was enjoyable, and the respect from Brock
was a nice touch. Before we get to death the cash in thing,
why do we need to hear from the announcer before the bell rings that there's
a cash in? I mean, those are precious seconds, you know,
like precious seconds that could be wasted on and being like the match is hinged
on the announcer announce it. It should just be the competitor, hands the
referee the briefcase. It's implied we all know it's coming, and the bell
rings like it should be instant. There's always precious seconds of the match starting
where there's false castions and things. But I'd aggress, all right. I
think Balor should have won it too. I'm already bored of Seth's title reign.
Logan and Ricochet was good, Shana Basler and round Ron Arowsy was hard
fought. I think the Battle Royals should have had a better prize, like
maybe a title shot of some sort. But this is I'm definitely happy they
had La Night one. Yeah, moving on, there's been loads of injuries
lately, or am I I just lost myself? Oh, surely the tag
team titles should have been made vacant. Well, the men's and women's.
It's all going a bit crazy. I think those titles are cursed. Yeah,
I'd agree, and can For God's sakes, can we please, since
we've unified physically the belts that were unified, can we please do that for
the men's tag team titles? Please? Please, please please? What's wrong
with him is his face on raw He looked like a Tomato. I found
it quite amusing when the Mids called La Night an Attitude era fanboy. His
mic work is always good. In La Night once again rose to the occasion.
He gave as good as he's got and more like Night from the start,
and it's good that he is. This over was a good back and
forth between the two. But the real question is why was Ela Knight on
raw? Oh wait? Because we know the brand split doesn't matter? Yes,
and I just went over that. But are we complaining? You know
what I mean with this? And that's what DW you'd say, was,
well, are you complaining? He was there? You know what I mean?
So there's that. But I also am a big stickler for brand split
rule enforcement. Shoosh please, I'm glad that Chad is getting a push.
He's a brilliant athlete and his promos have always been entertaining, especially recently.
Can Gable be the guide to dethrone Gunther It seems unlikely. He would definitely
deserve it, thank you well, so no, It'll be a fun,
hard fought. You know, a bit of a David Goliath, a bit
of that dynamic going on with the size difference. A pure wrestling match that's
physical, a lot of suplexes, a lot of impressive I think maneuvers coming
from Gable. This is a sneaky match here. Not that I think Gabel
has any chance to be Gunther. He doesn't for the biggest reason. Number
one is Gunther is an inch away from being able to claim he is the
longest running ic IC champion of all time. You think WW is gonna not
cross that for Gunther. They have massive plans for Gunther. Gable's not going
to be the one to stop that. No chance, zero chance. I
don't care who comes back right now. Gunther will cross that threshold, all
right. I just can't help. But like Shinski, I have always have,
and it appears he's getting a lot more TV time lately. Always good
in the ring. He's charismatic and I enjoy his character. Good to see
him in the main event. You know you're noticing a pattern here though,
guys generally guys, not just you, King's Gully here everyone they're pushing people
they normally wouldn't that have been there. They're not new, but I think
they're doing this because they have a couple of b pay per views coming up
and time to fill before Survivor series. And I'm not saying that the guys
and gals here are fillers, but I think they're giving these men more of
an opportunity than they otherwise would because it's a bit of a lull before another
major pay per view And I don't know, just some thought there. I
tweeted or X. Yeah, I don't understand the X thing. It's still
tweet like, sure the x X is cool looking, but like so,
I don't know whole another topic. So you tweeted Cody Rhodes. They told
him to stop, stop asking a stupid question that we as fans cannot answer.
He didn't respond, but unfortunately I tried. Well, thank you for
trying. I really appreciate that. But he continues to come out there.
Cody Rhodes does and ask a question that the fans still cheer, but it's
like a mild cheer, and it's only they're only cheering, I think because
he mentions their city. That's it. That's the only reason he inserts in
certain name of city, what do you want to talk about? In certain
name of city, what do you want to talk about? That's it.
A little bit of MJF for you there, But that's what he does.
That's it. And the only reason that people cheer is they said the name
of our city. Isn't that cool? I'm from here, you know what
I mean. It's just it's nonsense. And the way he also delivers it
is it's just I want someone to punch him in the face. He does
it in a sly smile, knowing he's about to get a pop. But
that also, no one can answer this. There's no coherent, cohesive collection
I can answered to this other than just okay, open ended question. I
guess we're just gonna cheer because he mentioned our city a few words ago.
It's ridiculous, but he continues to try to make it a thing. It's
not a thing. People aren't cheering along. You notice no one is speaking
along with him. If it was so over, Cody, after you've been
doing this for months and months, wouldn't people be saying this along with you
as your catchphrase. Instead, you rely on the people cheering and get false
validation from people cheering only because you mentioned the name of the city, not
because it's a good catch line a catchphrase. So and also the way Cody
delivers his promos, he's just I don't know. I don't want to go
into it. I'm starting to side with Anthony DeMarco on turning completely on Cody
in terms of his baby face character. Excellent in the ring, he feels
like a main eventer, but just miscast. Even though I Understan and the
Popsy's getting and all that, I get that. I know. I also
feel like I'm in the minority on this too, and that's cool. But
all right. I could go on a whole massive Cody die tribe now about
his promos, but all right, moving on, the worst thing about Roll
this week was the return of the New Day, same boring gimmick. I
don't get why anyone likes them, cheers for them, and it's obvious they
were going to win. Lame. New Day sucks. You are my new
favorite listener listener of the day. Should I feel like I should insert some
kind of some kind of applause there? If I had a soundboard, I
would. I'm also looking forward to working with Rocky Team Michael Gross and mav
on an upcoming episode. Be fun to make my debut Enjoy your Day piece
out? Yeah, I'm looking forward to that too. Cool. All right,
guys, let's keep rolling here. Let's see, I have to heavily
Oh this is from Malachi, and Malki says, I have to heavily disagree
with you on the statement you made on Summer Slim review about nobody wanted to
see Bianca belliras champion. Maybe you don't want to see hers champion, but
the casual fan of majority of people in attendance cheered loudly when she came out
and popped loud when she won the title. She gets reaction as loud as
anyone. So I'm confused with this notion that nobody wants her as champion.
Maybe she needs to take a well deserved break and hiatus for the marks to
see important and vital. She is the company in the women's division. Okay,
well here, so here's the deal, Malachi, when you heard the
reaction for Bianca, it was more of that they don't want Oscar as champion.
Okay, people would have cheered, if cheered for Charlotte won and cheered
maybe louder. Bianca Bellar just came off being champion. Okay. She's been
champion essentially since WrestleMania thirty eight, and we need a break from Bianca bell
arras champion, we just do it was more I believe a just happy the
fans aren't going to continue to see Oscar as champion because Oscar is champion is
a snooze fest. It just is. It's not that people hate Bianca bel
air, or rather I think they hate or they don't. I think people
are bored with her baby face character and that she should turn heel. I
believe that. I continue to believe that she would be much more successful at
this point and give her a refresh. But the cheer I think had a
lot to do with people just wanting to see Osca not as champion, rather
than more because Bianca. People are excited to see Bianca as champion. Case
in point, when we had EO Sky cash in, the pop for Eo
Sky winning and beating Bianca was exponentially louder than Bianca winning the title in the
first place, which told you people are ready for a change here. So
I guess we'll agree to disagree, right, all right, let's continue to
Let's see who we want to go to Nick from Oregon. Nick says the
women's division, at least the top of the SmackDown card, seems to have
a face heel problem, although is it a problem outside of Bianca Belair?
Who may close the expectat who may close to the expected heel? Turn?
Who may be close? Or Zelena Vega? Can you name one superstar on
the brand that's strongly defined has a strongly defined position. Charlotte an Osca both
are being booked as baby faces but worked better as heels. EO she sure
she comes off like a new baby face champion, but doesn't damage controls supposed
to be heel faction. Even the mid card is muddy Shotzi is She's supposed
to be the baby face to Bailey's heel or vice versa. Does anyone care
Meetchen? I guess thedoc is a baby face faction just with zero heat I
La Don and Albifier, Who knows? Do you see this as a problem?
It just feels like right now, coming out of coming out of Ray
outside of EO, there isn't much heat for any of them. So I
wonder if creative needs to figure out more defined roles. If I'm fantasy booking
this after some time off Bianca Turn's heel, joining Lashly new her business and
goes after whoever is still champion at the time. Yeah, that's a that's
some good points. They're nick When you look at all the women on SmackDown,
there there could be cases of well, this person's booked as a heel,
but they're getting a they're in a heel faction, but they're still a
new champion like EO, and she's still getting a big reaction as a baby
face. What I think who chalked this up to is well, there's shades
of gray. There's shades of gray. Everyone shouldn't be defined in just strict
categories. I firmly disagree. I understand there are shades of gray, but
in in pro wrestling as a presentation, you want to be able to have
clearly defined good and evil. It's it really boils down in pro wrestling at
its core when it's the most successful, clearly defined roles of who's playing good
and who's playing evil. That's it. I know that. Oh that's rue.
Oh that's rudimentary, that's elementary. No, that's what it is.
Who do you want to see beat the other? Why do you want to
see this person beat this person up? What did that person do that deserves
it? Right? That's it? Or what do you want to see that
person achieve so and that's really what it is. That's not all it is,
but that's at its very just root, that's what it is. And
so yeah, I don't know if it's it's a problem. Only if it's
if a tension is drawn to it, where the reactions flip flop, you
know. Like what I think the worst example of this or best, depending
on how you look at it is Ronda and Shana. They we don't know
still to this day, who is the baby face and who's the heel.
I would imagine most people were sharing for Shana, but not strongly. It
wasn't overwhelming that that was kind of a mess of a heel baby face dynamic,
and w W didn't seem to care. Sometimes it just happens, but
right now, yeah, right, Like Charlotte is is booked as a baby
face, but she's clearly better as a heel, and sometimes she says things
that are very heelish. I mean, you're never gonna get exactly everything lined
up perfectly to go. This person is, you know, excuse me,
the the epitome of a baby face, and this person is the epitome of
a heel. You get that occasionally, but more often than not right now,
they just kind of they do have wishy washy people on the women's side
and some on the men as well, no doubt. I mean this can
actually be a hold. You can make an entire show on this show,
an entire like kind of side podcast on the women's issues in wrestling or successes.
I'm open to that. By the way, if someone out there,
uh, you know, I'd actually really like to have more women on this
show to talk about women's wrestling. I think that would be a fun dynamic.
I don't think there's enough women that talk about wrestling in our in podcasts,
because well it's a male demic, male dominated demographic that watched the product.
But thanks Nick, very intriguing and good points. All right, let's
see, let's go to let's go to Ryan, and Ryan says, hey,
Matt and enjoining the ad three shows in your Summer Slam review. I've
seen a lot of chatter online about the heel turn and Brock's off script heavy
putting over of Cody, But am I crazier? Didn't both Brock and Cody
and Jay versus Roman both call for pin or submission with interference being a DQ.
Shouldn't both Cody and Roman have been disqualified. Well, no, because
the tribal combat was no disqualification. Now, if tribal combat includes no family
members should be involved, and if family members do get involved, it's a
disqualification. That's different. But I don't know if that was ever enforced.
I think it was mentioned at one point, but it wasn't ever a point
driven home. So I think they kind of let that fade away and they
just made it a a no DQ match labeled and marketed as a tribal combat.
So I don't think Roman should have As far as Cody getting disqualified,
you know, I don't. I don't think so that that was a straight
up wrestling match though, right, Yeah, I mean that was. But
what did uh did? What should Why should a Cody have been disqualified?
Though? What happened? I'm not sure? All right. I know this
is all in order to move the stories forward, but I feel like Creative
is completely throwing match stipulations and rules to the wind. What are your thoughts,
Well, yeah, I mean, I guess that's a very broad statement.
I'd have to get specifics when you're saying that they're throwing match stipulations and
rules to the Wind. They do that a lot though. That's just that's
just kind of the way w has presented their products forever, where sometimes match
stipulations and rules don't apply when they don't want them to, and do when
they don't want them to, or don't when they don't want them too.
So that's a very broad statement. You'd have to give me specifics, but
all right, PS, totally random, but if you and your listeners are
interested. I was the guest on August eleventh episode of Talk Is Jericho where
we talked about UFOs. Yep, talk about a sword for you. Oh
cool, keep up the great work, and congrats on Elna finally getting the
push we've been holding our collective breath on. Well, I wouldn't say he's
got a push. I mean, right now, he's won a battle royal,
which isn't exactly something you put at the top of your resume. Lana
hasn't done much of anything yet, but it's the start, I would say,
you know, it's the start. So you were on the Talcas Jericho
UFO discussion on August eleventh. I have not listened to that episode, but
maybe I will. Maybe I will, because yeah, UFOs are something that
I could probably create a whole podcast on that. That's kind of my side
interest as well. Like I mean, laugh if you will. But UFOs
or UF's, you know, it's unidentified aerial phenomena now is how they I
guess how they identify them? Or Bigfoot? Okay, Bigfoot? I note
which I will say this, and I don't know if I mentioned this on
the show. Very very much aside thing here, I was never really a
big believer that there's big foot. You know, they clearly would have found
remains. I didn't believe in it. And I'm not saying I'm not about
to say I've seen one. Okay, I'm not. But what I will
say is this, if you guys haven't seen the show Expedition Bigfoot, you
should, Okay, some of the evidence they collect, and we're about they're
about to drop season four where they go to Alaska, I would highly recommend
you watch that. It may it may make you will not They don't find
like Bigfoot in front of their camera, but some of the things that they
find in the woods are related to Bigfoot. It's it's indisputable evidence that there's
something out there, and it just it just is. Okay, So I
would very highly recommend if you're interested in such things, if you care about
like cryptozoology and all that, watch Expedition Bigfoot. I know there's a lot
of other big show Bigfoot shows out there. Some of them are just boring.
You know, they're never going to find anything. Oh there's a knock
in the woods. It must be Bigfoot, right you just the whole show
is built up to just a knock in the woods. This show, it's
real, it's not produced, it's it's raw, very well done. If
you're interested in such things, watch Expedition Bigfoot. Okay, three seasons are
about to drop. Season four. Okay, thank you. Ryan got me
all on a big Foot tangent. Now all right, let's see this is
from Freeman. Firstly, I was impressed with Logan, Paul and Ricochet.
The match was stunning. He made me forget why I found the whole situation
dell to begin with. But now it's over, it felt like it felt
a little too in the moment. It doesn't seem to set anything up going
forward or resolve anything that happened in the past. But overall the match,
the quality of the match was perfect for an opener to get everyone in the
mood, and unfortunately for a lot of people, the match quality went way
down after this, like it started at the top. Was sure, it
was a great way to get to set the tone, but the tone wasn't
followed through on all right, Brock versus Cody, I felt a little lost.
I'm told Brock is a big name in an all time great I've never
heard of him before this arc, and so my expectations were higher after hearing
all the love he gets. Maybe I built it up too much in my
head, but I came expecting more from him. What was overall a good
but fairly run of the mill match. Well wait for first of all,
wait did you say you you've never heard of Brock before this match. If
that's the case and you're not just pulling my leg, how is my first
question? Even if you're not a fan of wrestling or whatever, Even if
you don't know what pro wrestling is, if you've never even understood what WWE
is, you don't understand the concept of pro wrestling, it's actually impressive that
you've gone. I don't know how old you are, but you've gone presumably
a few decades in your life, and you have not heard the name brock
Lessner in any capacity. I mean he hasn't just WWE obviously had a very
accomplished career in MMA. He's he is at this point a household name,
So I'm not making fun of you. It's actually more impressive that you've never
if you've never heard of him before. That so kind of cool in a
very strange way. The MMA rules match them having to explain the rules of
the ring just before started starting made me laugh. It shows how ill thought
out this whole thing was and made me realize how sloppily thrown together the whole
story is. From a lackluster betrayal through the past few weeks up to not
even knowing the rules of the match before the match starts. No planning was
putting into the and put into this and going to and it showed, Yeah,
I mean I understand that. And no one was a fan. I
would be honest, no one was a fan of this. Most people weren't.
But it's over and you can move on. The Women's Championship belt and
Neo Sky taking the belt just seemed a little too predictable. And when I
sat down I thought about it, there wasn't anything else CEO could actually do
with the money the bank contract. They aren't going to have both women's belts
on SmackDown, so there's only one belt and that she could cash in on.
So if she didn't use it now, what would she be saving it
for? So left one ding. What's the point of even having the women's
money in the bank match when there isn't a cool use for the contract?
Also, can we please separate EO from Bailey. I've only been watching a
month and I were already sick of how jointed the hip those two are.
Well they tease them splitting, the tension has always been there. I was
hoping that the whole faction of Damage Control had been just finally scrapped. But
it's not. Sadly, but EO and Bailey. It needs to happen,
please. EO and Bailey has been in the background for way too long at
this point. Think about this. Bailey returned last year and she hasn't done
anything of note, nothing since she returned, and she formed a faction.
So Bailey needs to come to the forefront. I miss Bailey as champion,
or at least in the championship picture seth versus Finn was the highlight of the
show. This sets up so much potential an ongoing story. I can't wait
to see how it goes. So all turns out and the beauty of this
is Finn has no one to blame but himself, easy target to deflect blame
from himself. Seeing how this spirals from here will be the major takeaway from
Summer Slam from me, well cool, your name's Matt so oh, okay,
Matt so very good, very good, very good. All right,
let's what do we got? I think I have Chandler. So Chandler says,
let me talk to you. Summer Slam delivered from me personally, but
I could see how some would say it underdelivered. And the Finn and Seth
match was by far a favorite creative finish, and Seth attire was a nice
touch. I forgot to talk about this last week, but the Cody and
Brock video package was amazing and well put together. They had a good song
that needed the need to do more like that. Also, you're complimenting the
song. Okay, Chandler, I think you're in the minority here, but
teach their owe. I actually forgot New Day was on raw didn't didn't have
much to say about them, yet no one cares as they returned. I'm
sorry, no one cares when I say no one. Of course there are
people out there, but generally like no one's talking about the New Day's return.
It's not a it's it's not the first thing on people's minds. It's
just run of the mill. All they're back, okay, sure whatever,
Like that's that's that's the reaction. I mean that that's it's just kind of
very much indifference. Let's see, I'm extremely happy that Gabel got a win,
and a big win at that. I don't think he's gonna beat Gunther,
but it feels like it feels good to see him getting an nice push
i'lbeit temporary, I mean just probably is back to Finn and Seth. With
Finn attacking Seth on Monday, it feels like they're gonna have another match,
but I feel like there's no reason to have another match unless they're gonna take
the title off Seth. Well, I think this is leading to, more
importantly, a Finn and Damian split. That's what I think. Becky and
Trish's is weird and boring and it makes zero sense last week that they had
a match and Stark interfeared, and this week Beck says that they will have
another match next week. So what top what stops Stark from interfering in the
interfering is barred from ringside? Is that the steel cage. It makes a
little sense, Well is it in a steel cage? I don't. I
don't think it is. But if they're going to tell us and try to
drive that narrative home that, oh well it's gonna be in a steel cage,
so no one can interfere. No that that has proven to be true
zero percent of the time. In fact, it invites more interference. And
you know what's more effective, Adam Pierce just telling people they're barred from ringside
and saying if you if you interfere, you're suspended. That's it. That's
more effective than a physical steel structure. Is just words. So if they
truly want no interference, that's what will happen. I thought Shinskay was already
a heel. He attacked Champo for interfering in his match with Bronze Read three
weeks ago or maybe it was four, but I'm so confused right now.
That's it for this week. Yeah, this kind of leads into the previous
email or about the wishy washiness of defining heels and baby faces. It's just
kind of whoever you know, it's for Shinskay. It had been up to
this point kind of a back and forth. Whatever we need you to be,
You're going to be that night. That's seems to be where Finns or
Shinn has been living. All right, let's see where else? I think.
Let's see I know I deleted there was an email I deleted by accident,
and oh there it is Peter. This is the I think this is
the final email. So Peter says, I don't know where you're from,
but I don't know. I thought I saw a place. Let's move on.
Is it ironic? Now that's SmackDown? That it's SmackDown? Who needs
to work hard to elevate the US title. We've spoken about Raw and needing
to do this while there was no world heavyweight champion. Raw did a great
job. Since Austin he arrived on SmackDown, they've essentially let the title and
theory go to waste. Speaking of theory, they just throw him in the
Summerslime Battle Royal as gap filler. My wish is weirdly to see theory in
the judgment day. I think theory would be a nice fit there. That's
a that's a hell of an idea. It'd be more relevant than anything he's
done since WrestleMania, that's for sure. But I don't think SmackDown needs to
elevate the US title. I think the talent needs to elevate the US title.
Creative needs to get back behind it. The US title has lost so
much value since it was put in Austin theory, and that's really disappointing because
we thought it was would be the very opposite. There was even talking at
one point of Austin Theory beating Roman Reigns for his title many months ago.
Right, So it's it's really about just putting video packages together, some interviews
again, you know, having it be more of a central piece of SmackDown.
It can be, especially if people are just the wrestlers are going to
ignore the fact that there's a more important title around the waste of Roman Reigns.
You can at least start to talk about the US title and make it
and not just a one segment but multi segment part of SmackDown. So all
right, Peter I almost missed you. That was a close one, all
right, so let's see I think, wait now, hold on, I
do this every time, guys. I told you this is a lot tonight
you guys are you? Guys got a lot for me? But this is
I promise the last email. If there's anybody else after this, sorry,
I mean I need to get the voicemails. So this is from Thomas and
he says, there goes SummerSlam. Mixed bag for me. The Women's Championship
match had a fast pace and flow. It had NonStop in ring action without
the need for an over the top spot. All three of them really showed
their world class ability and further cements the standard need for the developmental rising of
female stars to reach the top. Eo Sky cashing in and winning the Women's
Championship was amazing and well deserved. I think she will turn on Bailey,
claiming to have used Bailey after she becomes less relevant. I hope it's the
other way around. I think Bailey turns on her. I hope that is
happy to cla night get a PLI win. I would have preferred it to
be something more meaningful than a Battle Royale, which always feels like a filler
to get the unused man active. Unused man active, but at least he
has been rewarded and acknowledged again. Guys. Yeah, this is a starting
point for Night. I know everyone wants a bigger victory, but it's just
the starting blocks we just started, and he needs something to ground himself in
and this was it. So that's how I'm viewing it. My disappointment in
the main event is beyond words, another solo interference for Roman and another bloodline
member for USO being involved in the ending. I feel stupid for hoping Voldemort
would come back, of course, referring to the rock and most opportunity and
poetic time. The match was again incredible quality and in match storytelling at its
finest. Roman moves on to new challengers. I'm guessing Jimmy turned on Jay
as he felt Jay had no divine right to become the next travel Chief,
placing himself above Jimmy may have been regarded as disrespectful. Yeah, I'm sure
it has something to do with that. That's probably something that they'll try to
sell us. You know, all right, the main event, the main
question for you, have you noticed the downed superstars are now constantly watching the
referee pinfall counts, and this seems to be happening more than ever. Roman
is the true king of near falls. He can kick out with split seconds
left with his eyes closed. Brock and Jay Brock and Jay possess a similar
ability. I think it was the Balord Rollins match with the most pin watching
Roman versus Jay had little to none. It's a pretty critique, but when
you see the superstar look at the referee, you know they will kick out,
and it spoils the drama and shock massively. For me, surely the
most important parts of the match, stars and referee should practice they're near pinfalls.
I find this more frustrating than overly loud stars calling their moves in front
of the cameras. That said, wrestling is in a great place at the
moment. Bring on the next pl Sorry for the long email. I haven't
heard or I haven't heard your pre and post summer Slim shows yet. I'll
catch up Monday. Well, I'll enjoy the shows. That's a interesting and
poignant observation. I've been critical of the announcers, specifically Cole, who is
really good, but he just cannot help himself of calling something before it happens,
which tells you the opposite is happening. So they're gonna win the championship
right here, and it's like, oh, f you, Cole, Now
it ain't happening right, not happening now. I know his job is to
bring you in, make you believe, but anybody that's been a fan for
any amount of time just immediately knows that you're just that's your job, and
everything you say right now is the opposite. But that's interesting. Yes,
I have noticed that, and I maybe my subconscious has just pushed that aside
to make me just more engaged in the product. But if you don't know
what I'm to if you don't understand the email here, what Tommy is saying
is when there is a fall that is not going to be the end of
the match, it's a near fall. If the camera catches the eyes of
the guy on his back and you can see that person who's on their back
looking at the referee, you know they're kicking out more often than not,
if maybe it's one hundred percent. The reason is they're looking at the referee
is because they're trying to gauge the pacing, the cadence of the count,
so they kick out just in time, and I agree with you, Tommy.
Yeah, I don't know what the solution is though. I mean,
if you close your eyes and just use your ears, you could cause a
situation in which you know you're you're not getting all the information where the count
of the referee might be off a little bit in your sound and it doesn't
give you the full picture, so you're not kicking out exactly when you should.
Maybe what they could do is just close their eyes a little more so
it doesn't look like their eyes are wide open looking at the hand come down
to kick out right at two and three quarters. So now everyone can't unsee
that. So thanks Tommy. Oh gosh, all right, so here we
go. I think we're done. Yeah, we're done with the emails.
Guys, even anyone emails me here. Sorry, you know you're you're not
getting on the show. I mean, you're just not sorry. I need
to move on to voicemails, and we're gonna do that in short order,
right now. So let's do it. Done to me podcast World, this
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Slab. It was an incredible Summer Slab. They over delivered and they had
some awesome moments. Shout out to Detroit Kyle. Oh my goodness, Detroit
Cow. This was his first time seeing like w W e PLI live at
Ford Field, so shout out to Detroit Cow. And of course we had
an awesome time cracking jokes and of course making our instant reactions to some of
the most incredible moments that happened at Summer Slab at none bigger, none bigger
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time just to see none of the that La Knight finally get a big moment
on a PLI, So shout out to La Night. I hope this is
a lot for thanks for him to come as he hopefully goes for that United
States Championship. From nonther than Austin theory, and speaking of Austin Theory,
I don't want to continue to go on the rent. But what the hell
why was Austin theory in the SummerSlam Battle Royal. He's the United States champion,
right, so what the hell is that all about? But other than
that, I don't want to continue to go on the rent. But let's
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of the note, my guy fear Mahan had a birthday, so happy birthday
to you. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, so happy birthday.
So my guy vier Mahan, this is your guy, DJ Kuzmo, have
a blessing me guy to one another, staves with my friends and peace.
Happy birthday, Viry Mahan. I didn't think i'd be saying that today,
but you already sang song for him, so you kind of outdated me and
outshine me. So thank you so much, DJ for your energy and for
your passion and for yeah, the shout out to everyone in the Discord server
who you know. I really applaud and Detroit Kyle with his contributions and attending
the event and giving us a live in person perspective. All of that was
well just well received by everybody. I haven't heard any complaints or anyone needing
a time out in the Discord chat. Occasional we'll run into that, but
it has it's been a long time, and you guys are great. So
you know, discord chat continues to be one of the real main selling points
here. People love that, and I'm glad I was able to implement that
for those of you. And hey, you want to join Patreon for a
dollar, you get you not only get everything add for you, but you
can get into that Discord server and join DJ and join all the other patrons
for a hell of a chat during live events, especially during PLS. It's
so much fun. So thank you so much, DJ, and you enjoy
the rest of your week. We'll talk to you next week and let's get
to our next one. Hey, Matt and the rest of the rest of
the Taka family, this is actually something different this week from me. For
the first time in a couple of weeks. This is not the cord Great
report. I'm not even sending these in on on that Wednesday, I mean
on Tuesday. I'm not one day, one day one of the things in
on Wednesday sending me sending this in Friday, one day before summerslie. The
reason why is I actually forgot to mention this in the l and my last
voicemail for the Cordata port on the mailbay takeover addition on that voice. And
I forgot to mention this. I'm actually going away on vacation for like two
weeks Dirty Park, Pennsylvania. We're going there from this coming Tuesday, the
eighth, all the way to August nineteen. So I'm gonna lay again.
I'm really missing the next two mail days. I'm still gonna be listening.
I have Spot on my phone stuff. I'm still gonna be listening to all
the podcasts on the mailback episodes while I'm on vacation. But for the next
two mailback episodes, I'm not going to be on them because I'm gonna be
on vacation. It's just not really I'm gonna be a family So it's like
I'm not really gonna drive a call or anything. Funny. What you guys
now, So if you don't hear from me next two weeks, yeah,
that's the why. So if anyone wants to fill in with the Corderat report
for the next two weeks, feel free. Someone wants to do the Cordat
report for the next two mailbacks, go for it. But that's not It's
okay, I get it. People are busy. I wanted to say I'm
gonna watching somemerslim swimming, watching all the wrestling on my phone on a vacation,
so I'm gonna be all cut up. Still, that's all. Talk
to you guys in two weeks. See you later, all right, Kyle,
Well, enjoy vacation. Yeah, I'm actually going to be going on
a vacation myself, and that'll be going probably like four or five days,
maybe six, starting next Saturday to the following Saturday. But I'll still be
able to hopefully crank out some episodes here the mailbag. Maybe shoddy. I'm
not sure how that's gonna work. We'll talk more about that next week.
But you know, my best is my best effort will be made to continue
to pump out content because I mean, we have WiFi. It's just a
matter of finding a location. I'm in a house with a bunch of other
people and a bunch of other kids. Sometimes I remember doing some shows in
my car. There's bring my laptop in my car at night, and like
do that. So but anyway, Kyle, enjoy your vacation. I hope
you have some rests. Well. We'll, of course, you know,
talk to you in a couple of weeks and appreciate your contracts. Alrighty,
here we go to our next one. It's Kyle from Baltimore. So I
wanted to talk about Summer Sland last night. I thought overall was good.
For the most I can't say grave it was good, and I think for
me what I was really hyped over was Eel Sky winning the championship and I
thought I had I had that thought for a while now that Eels could have
cash in and when and when the Shampish ship at Summersland, I kind of
figured out what's could have happened and self clip lab it did and to see
so I'm sure able to go to do net with EO as Shad before SmackDown
and all that stuff. So it'll be fun to see how how her range
going to be fun and in the scene than than Oscar because I don't want
to share for Oscar, but I like the Eel because it's two above them
are j every stars. I enjoy Eel a little bit more than Ask.
I don't know if it's just the personality or what it is, but maybe
because I think also two Eel takes is more to Arius and Osca. If
you if you Aska as like a child. Sometimes every touch he comes out
there and EO comes out there like she comes out like a like an adult,
like a you know, like to be more serious. So I like
that, and so I like the tire being that ales champion. The other
thing is tears that what's that exports steps Rollins at this point now after they're
feeding uh Finn ballet in a better match too, by the way, than
money in the bank. What's that for him heading into you know now that
they're clearly dreading days to break up. Here leaves priests and and vow to
have some issues. What's that first first steps Rolins? Now that's just now
his stuff with just days over worth a big expect for him. But that's
why t sets of Summer Slam. But that's it. They sall, Hey,
we have so many Kyles on the show, a destroy we have newer
Kyle. You know, so many Kyles. But Kyle, I will say,
if you listen to show at this point, I mean you kind of
know one My answer is going to be is Shins Kanakamaro is going to be
a nice holdover for a month maybe two maybe from Payback to fast Lane and
assuming there's no event in Saudi Arabia, which I don't see in the schedule
right now. So assuming that's not the case, I really believe Drew mac
entire turns heel and then we get a Drew versus Seth program where he could
truly take the belt off of Seth late in the year, in November December,
maybe at the Rumble, but a Drew heel turn it would be a
lot of fun. It would just be it would be a lot of fun
for Seth to work with, and really also Cody Rhodes, you know,
maybe Cody Rhodes worked with Drew two. So that's what I think. All
right, thanks so much, buddy. Let's let's go to our next one.
A few left. I think we have three or four left, so
let's let's do it. Hey, Matt, this is Mike from Connectic Kids,
shiming in. It's been a couple of weeks I've reached out to you
guys, but no major questions today, just a couple of observations I have
for you. I've noticed that you are commenting here and there about the Intercontinental
Felt being referred to as heavyweight Champion, in other words, Intercontinental heavyweight Champion.
They actually used to do that A long ways back, and I go
back aways. You know, I'm fifty years old, so I've been watching
since the Golden Age of pultomaning at eighty five eighty six when I started watching.
But specifically I do recall and it always stood out to me. Wait,
even way back when I was a kid, that the macho Man Randy
Savage referred to his Intercontinental Championship felt as the Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship. I don't
remember call anyone else doing that, but I do remember Macho Man doing that
a lot, and he had the prestige to be able to do it because
you really he was the macho man. You know, you believed that he
was the Intercontinental Heavyweight champions. So I just wanted to if you didn't ever
pick up on that, I wanted to let you and your listeners know that
way back it was once called that if we spy Randy Savage. And secondly,
something that made me smile and laugh a little bit. A couple of
weeks ago, you and Anthony were talking about the I think they were still
then tag team champions Selsey Green. You referred to Chelsea Green as Rachel Green.
So I'm calling you out on that. So I want you to tell
all of our listeners who exactly Rachel Green is and why that was in the
back of your head. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest
fan is I'm guessing you were of that show. It was a very very
very funny show. You don't go nine ten seasons without me obviously successful and
it's funny, But it's time for you to to step up. Who is
not Chelsea Green? Who is Rachel Green? Fat? I have a Grade
one WW podcast. You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work and
I will talk to you soon. One last thing, can we get away?
I lost my freindits though, so I'll get back down that one.
All right, take care, Fine, I'm being called out. I didn't
even know I did that. Sometimes I just make up words, like I
called p J McDonough like. Sometimes I just do things that are in my
because my brain says, no, this is a better way. This is
their real name. So first of all, let me talk to the Intercontinental
Championship. I think on the actual title it does say Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship,
which I have no problem with. It makes it sound more prestigious and it's
heavyweight, so it's the strongest man only. But also if that's the case,
that would mean there's a weight element to this in a weight qualification.
And if there's a weight qualification, then I would imagine if we look back
in the history of the Innercontinental title, that a lot of those men would
not meet that qualification of being a heavyweight of over two hundred and five pounds
whatever. I'm fine with it. I did not know that about the macho
man. I have no problem with it. It's just interesting to me.
It's just interesting, and Gunther certainly fits the bill to be a heavyweight,
no doubt. Now as far as Rachel Green, who the hell's Rachel Green
and not Chelsea? Obviously I misspoke, So Rachel Green, I'm thinking back,
and I'm like, where the hell did I come up with that?
I'm imagining because I watch a lot of Friends, the TV show, so
Rachel Green is a big character on that right. Rachel Green, of course,
is played by Jennifer Aniston, one of her most famous, if not
her most famous role in all of television that she's done. So Rachel Green
from Friends is probably what for some reason I was going to and I have
been watching Friends lately, so I think that's probably where it came from.
I don't have any other I don't have any ex's named Rachel or Rachel Green,
like I don't have any past trauma with any woman named Rachel. So
if if that's where you're going, I don't unless you know what happened,
and I'm unaware of which I had many nights. I don't remember that said.
That's all I could. That's all. That's the only thing to come
up with. I can't search in the bowels of my brain any deeper deeper
than that. But I'm glad you enjoy Anthony and myself I enjoyed talking with
him as well. Okay, let's get to our next voice mail. Hey
man, there's Justinus for Maryland as well, just calling the talks some summer
slam and bear a couple questions for you. So first, the main event,
Roman and Jay. It was a good match. I just gotta say
that. Don't hold Jimmy turn. It just really just okay. I once
say I was disappointed, but I just really didn't expect that to happen.
Like I thought that, you know, Jay was gonna get you know,
beat down, you know, he was gonna make a comeback, but not
win. But I definitely didn't expect Jay to like turn and help Roman win.
And it didn't even seem that Roman even knew what was going on.
I don't know if he called it, but Roman's face was just confusion,
and it looked like Paul Hayman like he was standing behind Jimmy just like,
you know, just doing his little face expressions, and it seem like Paul
Haymon might have had something to do with it, and Roman didn't know.
So Devin interested to see where it goes SmackDown. I'm just not I was
just honestly made me sad because like, you turned on your own twin brother,
like your little twin. You guys are like almost the same, you
look the same, and then you just turned on him in his biggest moment.
And I just think back to when Jimmy, you know, when they
had the whole segment and it came out that Jimmy that Jimmy was he was
basically jealous of Jay because Jay was the right hand man and stuff. So
I feel like they'll play on that, but I just really didn't. I
just wasn't really happy with that. Honestly next see so Seth and I guess,
uh, finth Kate next. I don't. I'm not really interested in
that since Fenskate has been teasing the hill Turn for weeks now, so I
guess they pulled the trigger. So I guess they'll go with him and Seth
at Payback. Of course, since they're not gonna win, probably get like
a four star maybe five star match. But that, like that whole thing
was interesting because with Seth and Cody, you can still feel the tension.
Then I honestly thought that they would go with Seth and Cody at Payback.
Then I'm like, no, because you honestly can't have Cody lose clean right
now, and you can't have Seth lose. So I was just like,
Okay, something's going on. So I feel like they're gonna still do Cody
and step one more time because they definitely have to finish that. But I
definitely think Tess is going to beat him because I don't think Cody's story is
going to end with him win the world title. That let me see,
So Drew McIntire schans By, we might be getting a characters change. We
didn't get him on a roll this past week. But after his loss,
he didn't speak. He didn't speak during the interviews. So hopefully, you
know, we do good a characters chance with Drew. He lost clean.
I'm sure he dis al Hi justin three minutes gets here again. Maybe three
minute warning. Maybe that's what I'll just kind of like, name your name,
your voicemails at this point, your voicemail files that I download. Three
minute warning, Rosie and Jamal throwback to those that remember the early two thousands
there fish off anyway, Okay, Jimmy, I agree it was. It
was kind of a disappointment. You know, it was a turn. But
was it a turn for the right reasons? I don't know. Time will
tell, but it feels very Jeff Matt Hardy ish, where like, yeah,
we know who's the heel, who's the good guy, who's the bad
guy? We understand that, but are people even wanting to see this?
Do people really want to see the usos fight one another? That's going to
be remaining. That's remains to be seen, no doubt about that. Now.
As far as Cody and Seth, I don't think it's going to be
payback. I don't think it's going to be at fast Lane. I think
it's gonna be Survivor Series or later. I really do. Hell, they
could even fight each other at WrestleMania and wait that long, because now we've
seen a pattern where one interrupts the other after their program is closed, and
you think they're going to go there, and then it happens again, and
they get interrupted again and detoured. So they keep crossing paths but not able
to follow through because they keep getting interrupted by side projects right by detours of
other guys. So it's gonna I think they're gonna keep doing this. They
could string it out all the way to Mania. They could Seth and Cody
could have their fourth match, because it would be their fourth and by the
way, Cody has been and Seth all three times prior, and they could
have that matchup Mania. But then wouldn't that require one of them to turn
heel? It doesn't always have to happen. Big baby Face versus Big baby
Faces is a dynamic we've seen before, but the fans usually will then be
forced to choose someone to cheer for. It'd be it's a bit of a
dangerous thing to do. But right now, I don't think they have any
intention in the short term of putting these two together, yet they just keep
teasing you, telling you it's coming. Thanks, justin a couple more and
we'll close it out. This is Chris and Gallia Albert. So we're also
going to be at SmackDown in Calgary. And but right now we would like
to talk about summers. All right, Matt started off. We'd like to
hear a rants. What are the logistics of having four main event matches out
of pay per view or pl E. Wow? Yeah, well we've only
got three minutes, Chris, So let's talk about the nine matches and our
takeaways from the summer Flint. First of all, Logan Paul and Ricochet,
so we both agree it was amazing athleticism, great match, kind of tarnished,
finished with brass knuckles, Yeah, but typical Logan Paul slimey style.
Okay. And so what do we not like about this? Mostly we do
not like the fact that Logan Paul is taking his prime energy drinks from children,
very very bad stuff, controversial things, yeah, not okay, okay.
Cody Rhodes first, brock Lessner. I didn't like that brock Lessner could
not finish Cody Rhodes. He was weak and out of it, but Brock
couldn't do it. You know what, I thought that Cody Rhodes really deserved
to finally win this. But you know, ultimately, what was the best
part, the best part with the handshake of the end stile honorable, very
very classly of bron Lessner. And I'd really like to see something from Brock
Lester in the future, maybe some real good guy stuff. All right,
but La Night, we don't have any time. We've we've kind of botched
it here, so we'll move past him. Ela Night, b freaking time
he won something. Was so happy, I can't see. Okay, So
Shana and Ronda, this was our stand out. Oh, my gosh,
Shane is cool. Shina, we just loved the humanity that ww brought out
in her, loved her story. Really now we feel like we can get
behind her and we're like, yeah, all right, what was funny?
I'm true, what was funny? His nuts, my gosh on the rope,
it was so funny. Yeah, it was terrible. It was terrible,
you know what, really good match. Unfortunately, Drew had a mishap
towards the end, splash from Gunther. He just he just couldn't hang on.
He just okay, but you know what, we really and then they
likes to see a matchup with maybe True McIntire, Black Listners in the Future,
Partners, Warriors, Yeah right, warriors, okay, seth Rawlinson Finn
he possessed as he was going for that briefcase that news. You know what,
why couldn't the judgment day just stay the heck out of the out of
a triple thre girl match? What did you think? Well, we're not
done, Sindeller. Well all right, triple triple threat. You know what,
I didn't really like to match with the women. It was okay,
it was okay, but I guess oh no, it's a tribal chief.
Would ever do this. No, no tribal chief would ever do this,
No honor? All right, Chris and Gelly, you guys certainly that's called
maximizing your minutes, folks, that is maximizing your minutes. You guys crammed
it all in three minutes. Amazing, I man, amazing. I'm imagine
you guys hit the timer right when the voicemail started, so you knew exactly
how much time he had left. Well done, well done. Yeah,
you guys are attending SmackDown, we will set up a time to talk about
that. I'll message you or just email me. I know, I thought
you messaged me on Facebook. I've got I got so many messages on Facebook.
I think it got lost in the sauce. My Facebook page is starting
to really take off for some reason. I'm not complaining about it. I
just have so many messages. So email me, all right, Mailbag at
w B podcast dot com. Email me. Because if we're going to talk
on Skype, which is how to record the calls, we'll do it that
way. And if we're going to talk about SmackDown, then let's talk on
Sunday evenings. Sunday evenings like nine nine thirty pm Eastern Standard time is about
usually when I record. So some specifics there, but let's get to a
couple of your comments here. So I didn't like the women's triple threat.
I agree it was in me. Now, as far as logan Paul,
you're villainizing him for taking the prime drink away from a child, right,
Well, you know, looking at the nutritional facts on this, should a
child really be you know, drinking a essentially an energy drink at that time
of night. Anyway, I think he did a service to the parents.
I mean he's doing work here, Like, I think he really helped out
that the parent here of not having a wired child, you know, drinking
Prime. Okay, looking at the ingredients of Prime, I mean, it's
not the worst drink in the world that I looked it up because I'm like,
what is in this thing? Right? It does have an overload of
vitamins and potassium and magnesium and all that. It does have a little bit
of sugar. Yeah, It's just it's not probably something I would be drinking.
I wouldn't you. I'm thirty eight years old. I still wouldn't drink
this at that time of night. So the parents are probably like, thank
you, Logan, Paul, you know, thank you. I don't have
to deal with a wired, you know, a kid at ten, ten,
eleven, twelve o'clock at night. But hey, guys, I really
enjoyed the banter. I enjoyed You guys have a nice little chemistry going on
there. It's almost like you have experience doing this or something. It sounds
like you're like previous podcast hosts. I don't know. You guys have a
nice chemistry. So let's get together. I want to hear more about your
thoughts and of course us with SmackDown coming, let's talk email me. All
right, well we'll figure out time and all. It's just sticks very good.
All right, let's hold on. I think we got we got one,
we got we got we got one more, one more. So let's
let's get to that final voicemail, guys, and then we can call it
a night. Here we go, check check checking in. It's Rocky T.
Hello, everybody. I just wanted to let everybody know that I will
be taking a small sabbatical from the Mailbag, not from the podcast, just
from my entries into the mailbag. Don't worry. I'm still an active listener
every week, a loyal religious listener. I noticed that we are getting a
lot of new patreons, and I know all these people want to have the
voice was heard on the mailbag, and I want that for y'all two as
well. Y'all know Rocky T always has a lot on his mind and sends
in a page long email, and I want to give my spot to somebody
who's a new page john to have their voice heard. My voice is being
heard with the Wrestler Magic episodes with me doing the able Collision every other week,
so don't worry, I'll still be a part of that. We have
a couple of irons in the fire right now. First and foremost, Kuzmo,
I got the episode ready for you, buddy, me and the Gardener,
I have it ready for you. Let's make the time and let's knock
it out. I got the format ready. We have it ready for you,
man. Let's just let's get it together and see when we can whenever
we can set the time to get that done. We are also working on
an episode with the Gardner's nephew. This one will be titled not Everybody Can
Be a Top Guy. This is gonna go hand in hand with what we
just saw as summers Land with the right handed man trying to be the top
guy. We will explore what it takes to be a W. Davis superbar
but superstar, but most of all, what it takes to be a top
guy in the business. Two piggyback on Kuzmo's episode, which is gonna feature
thing songs. We are working on an episode with Missus Rockett which we will
explore makeup artists, ring gear, etc. Behind the scenes things that we
don't see or even think about, which goes hand in hand with the music.
So all that stuff is coming together again. I will be listening actively.
I will chime in if something comes up that just has to be talking
about. But for the meantime, I've got so much restarts going on with
all these episodes that it's hard to keep up with my mailback emails because I
construct those all week long. So again, don't worry, I'll still be
around. I'll still be listening. Everybody still me a favor every day.
Do not have a good day, have a great day. Talk to you
guys later. All right, Rocket, appreciate the update of Shore. Listeners
appreciate the update as well as to what's kind of going on the Wrestle Magic
side of things. And now you are feeling the pressure of just getting things
together for a podcast and recording and all that and your research. So yeah,
it's it's quite a bear. And you know, we'll look forward to
return to the mailbag. But you're listening, and that's great. And you
know a lot of I know a lot of you kind of do the same
thing, and well you don't have time to maybe contribute, you're still listening,
and we appreciate that. But yeah, I mean, hey, Rocket
Tea, I really appreciate your contributions. You and Michael Gross do an excellent
job Wrestle Magic. We have PJ Palaco, we have Just Incredible, who
is also a part of the Mailbag or a part of that part of the
Wrestle Magic group, and you guys do such a great job. Just Incredible
is going to be joining Michael and Rocket Tea on a monthly basis once a
month, so that'll be a lot of fun. And appreciate it. You
know, you guys are keeping me, keeping me going. You guys keep
me busy for sure. So one thing I want to say to Chris and
Gallia, not to disrespect you, Rocket Tea, but as I was listening,
I was like, oh, I didn't answer. The four main event
thing for wrest for Summer Slam is a marketing ploy. There's one main event,
it's the last match, that's it. I think that they're doing the
four main event thing or multiple main events. They did that a WrestleMania.
No, no, no, no, no, there's one main event.
Main event is by its nature a singular thing. You can't pluralize it.
Even though they're trying to for marketing purposes, to try to make it sound
more important. No, the main event is the last match that goes on,
end of story. That's it. I think they're doing it for the
reasons of trying to make the talent not feel like it's all Roman reigns for
three years and then oh, well, I'm part of the main event too,
because WW said I am, and also from the general public, it
sounds like it's more important. Wait a minute. They don't just have one
main event. They have four, no way, you know. And if
it takes you take two seconds, you're like, well, wait a minute,
No, they're just other matches before the main event. Don't don't try
to insult my intelligence. It makes me crazy when they do this stuff.
I know most people don't give a damn, but when they got to sneak
that in, it's like, stop, it's not there's one and will only
be one main event. And plus, if you're telling us there's multiple,
doesn't that devalue when a main event means now, I mean, look at
the looks. Just look at what main event means. It's the biggest match
on the card. You can't tell me there are four biggest matches on the
card. All right, it's getting late for me. I'm starting to rant,
So Chris and Gallia, what the hell are you doing to me?
As far as again, Rocky T, thank you so much for the update,
and we'll again we'll look forward to your return. We'll look forward to
everybody returning next week. I am going to sign off now because I am
getting tired and I'm about to hit the hay for work tomorrow. But thanks
everybody for listening. You know, you guys are a lot of fun to
listen and listen to and be able to respond to. Appreciate all the contributions
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