1 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:11,000 Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of my JavaScript Story. This week 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,679 we're talking to ro Jimenez. Hi, Charles, if you want to just 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,480 introduce yourself real quick, tell us why you're important, where you're from, 4 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,280 and what you do and all that stuff. Oh yeah, sure, So 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,440 I'm Rowdy Minnet. I'm from Barcelona, Spain, and I'm basically running a 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:36,600 small company called by Default where we are doing you know, these consultancy specializing 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,240 in Anglo mustling, and that's pretty much it. I enjoy staying with my 8 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:55,359 friends doing you know, programming, playing some tabletop games. When I'm building 9 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:58,000 a new product. 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They know how product development works and can help you 19 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:32,719 find the perfect engineer for your stack. Go to G two I dot co 20 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:38,159 to learn more about G two I. Yeah, you and Frosty and Joe 21 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:42,120 would have gotten along real well talking about tabletop games. Yeah, I think 22 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:46,400 that we can talk about that for hours. Yeah I have. I have 23 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:49,560 been to Joe's house and played D and D with Frosty and Joe and a 24 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:55,640 bunch of other folks. So yeah, it is. It's a blast. 25 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,280 So yeah, so we had you on episode two hundred and thirty five Adventures 26 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,159 in Angular talking about functional programming with Anguler and in GRX and a bunch of 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,319 other stuff. But yeah, it's always interesting to me, at least to 28 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,159 see where people come from and what the background is and and and stuff like 29 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:20,520 that, and so yeah, I just wanted to dive in here real quick, 30 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:25,919 and yeah, discuss with you your background. So let's start with how 31 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:36,840 you got into programming. So I started programming in in high school. Mostly 32 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:45,039 it's just something that there's it's something different than high school. It's something cold 33 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,240 here in Spain, something like associate degree. I think it's right. It's 34 00:02:50,439 --> 00:02:54,080 something called like that, so it's not you know, it's not university, 35 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:59,800 but it's not high school. It's something in the middle, right, And 36 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:07,120 yeah, I started doing programming there. But you know, my first computer 37 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:14,159 was a Spectrum forty eight KS when I was five, and I remember, 38 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:22,360 you know, doing this copy based from magazines to run small programs in the 39 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:28,400 spectrum and it was fun. So I always been very interested into that since 40 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:31,840 I was very little. But my first line of code it was probably with 41 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:38,520 sixteen. Wow, so what did you write? What was that first programming 42 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:47,759 project? Yeah, well I remember that we started with Tobobasco and you know, 43 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:55,199 doing some small stuff. Then we moved to assembler. I remember that 44 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:04,719 I wrote there slash p like like the like the MS DOS with assembler. 45 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:10,280 That wasn't nymor I just don't want to do as sembler ever in my life 46 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:17,279 after that experience. And I also did some COB and some C plus plus 47 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:24,879 and DBAs that kind of stuff, very old stuff. And and after that 48 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:33,000 I started working mostly as a as a teacher for a small kits and and 49 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:40,079 people that want to get introduced to programming and that that kind of stuff. 50 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:47,079 And and and then I discovered Flash, Flash four and and then I started 51 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:55,120 doing more object oriented programming from there, from Flash four, Flash five and 52 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,920 yeah, and I in my background is basically Flush, So I expect I 53 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,240 spent a lot of years working with Flush. I started with action Script one, 54 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:15,399 then two, then three, probably I worked with Flash for about ten 55 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,560 years to session eleven. Yeah, it's it's funny because I've talked to a 56 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:26,519 number of people for either the show or my JavaScript story, and a lot 57 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,480 of people were really in the Flash. Yeah, they were doing a lot 58 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,040 of work there, and then Steve Jobs came out. Yeah, yeah, 59 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,319 all their dreams. Yeah. Well, you know the good thing about Flush 60 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:45,079 is that it was atmoscript like JavaScript, so all the knowledge that you had 61 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,720 in in in the action script was very easy to top port, you know, 62 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:59,639 to to I had to JavaScript, and I just I really enjoyed the 63 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:04,519 time I missed. Sometimes I missed some parts of Flush because it was very 64 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,160 fun, very easy to create with the UI, you know, prototypes, 65 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:16,279 that kind of stuff. But it is true that I think that Jelloscript today 66 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:24,079 it's more you know, robust. It really grows that that feeling is not 67 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:30,639 I can tell you when I just moved from from a Flash to jeoscript. 68 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:36,439 It wasn't twenty eleven, twenty ten, two thousand eleven, and back then 69 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,360 work with Joskoy was not good at all. But today it's I really enjoy 70 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:46,040 working with script. I really enjoy because there is a lot of good tooling. 71 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,959 The languages and the frame words are you know, have have evolved a 72 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,279 lot, and right now it's a very good experience. Not on two thousand 73 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:05,240 eleven though, Right, so you get you get out of Flash and I'm 74 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,480 assuming you get into JavaScript around twenty eleven. So so what was that transition, 75 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,079 like, I mean you mentioned that, Yeah, they're both based on 76 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,360 acmascript. So it was too terribly difficult as far as like linguistic structure and 77 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:24,800 things like that go. But I'm assuming there was still a learning curve. 78 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Yeah. You know. The thing is that I started doing mostly uh you 79 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:44,800 know, full no framework JavaScript mostly for a couple of projects, and everything 80 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:51,600 was like going back to the back to the past because I just was there 81 00:07:53,040 --> 00:08:00,720 coding with prototype of the prototype and that of stuff, and it it was 82 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:05,000 like for me going back to two thousand and two, two thousand and three 83 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:11,160 with Flash, where you can do some programming with Flash five and Prototype. 84 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:16,120 So it was like, oh my god, I'm in action Script three now, 85 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:20,360 where I have something very similar to what it's typescript today, like very 86 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:28,040 strongly typed, and you have a very good compiler that's telling you exactly on 87 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:37,799 each line what have you done wrong? And then I'm just the next day 88 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:43,759 I was just programming with Prototype and that kind of stuff without compilers, and 89 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:52,000 just putting console logs everywhere. And that was the most painful part. It 90 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:58,840 was not that bad to move from one language to the other because also because 91 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,679 I did Flash for ten years, but I also did some JavaScript on the 92 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,840 web, very simple JavaScript, but it was very similar, so it was 93 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:11,879 okay, it's I can do that. I just need to go there and 94 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,559 learn how the API works, and that's it. But the main problem was, 95 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,320 you know, it's like if today it's someone tells you no, you 96 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:31,120 can just you can't use anymore Typescript or Angler or any either any other super 97 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,799 new framework with lots of cool features, nor Redax, nothing like that. 98 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,200 You just have to type in their JavaScript prototype. So it was a pain 99 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,519 in that part, especially in that part, not that much in terms of 100 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:52,519 learning a new language or having a learning cure with that, but to lose 101 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,919 a lot of tooling that was a pain. Yeah, that makes sense. 102 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,919 And a lot of the flash tooling was effect. Yeah, there was a 103 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:11,639 lot of good tooling, especially for the bag online a website for example. 104 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,960 You yeah, I remember that you can give back a website, a live 105 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,720 website from from from your local host, you know, and that was very 106 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:24,320 cool. That kind of stuff that was really good. But on the other 107 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:26,679 hand, you know, I'm as I said right now, I'm not missing 108 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:33,320 it. Uh. It had very good things others that were not that good. 109 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,200 I'm very happy with how everything works right now with gelescript. I think 110 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,240 that it was a good movement, a good move of the whole industry, 111 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,480 and at the end, I think that it was good also for the users, 112 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,960 which is who who who have to enjoy your products? Right Yeah? 113 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:58,840 So so yes, you you're you're in, You're you're getting used to some 114 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:03,360 of the tooling and offerings for JavaScript. At what point did you run across 115 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:13,440 engither. I think that it was like two level and also or at the 116 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:16,879 end of two tens something like that. I don't remember exactly. I remember 117 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,759 the first time was I was working on a project and I was looking for 118 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:28,039 something similar to Flex, to Adobe Flex, and I just found Angler, 119 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,720 and I wanted to use inter on a project. And the guy who you 120 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:37,960 know, the owner of the company, told me, this is very nice, 121 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,240 that we can't use it because we have all the intellectual property of the 122 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,360 code, and we can't use any library, not even jQuery, not even 123 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Angler whatever. We can't use any any jabscript library. You have to code 124 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:56,320 everything by your own. You say, okay, and I'm going to use 125 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,559 this thing then, but I'm going to keep an eye on it. And 126 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:05,399 then I like three or four months later, I started working for another company 127 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:13,279 everything as freelancer, and I think it was twenty eleven, and our guy 128 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,720 told me, yeah, there is this thing called Angular and I said, 129 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:20,240 oh, I remember this thing. I saw the website and I just completely 130 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:24,080 forget about it. And then I started. I did for that company a 131 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:30,279 small project which Angladas and I fell in love to completely because, as I 132 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,080 said, I was coding with Prototype and it was so painful. And then 133 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:41,240 the next day I had Anglage, with which it was very very similar to 134 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:45,960 me to work with that like in Flex, where I can just create an 135 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,919 attack or a component and put it on the edge themal and that was like 136 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:56,399 game changing for me. So was this angular JAS or was it angular Angli? 137 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,320 Yes? It was in twenty eleven, two thousand and eight, wasn't 138 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,279 Yeah? I think that it was like Paris zero zero nine or oh wow 139 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:11,639 you got it early? Yeah really? Yeah? Yeah really really? And 140 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,360 yeah and did you embrace it right away or was not completely the next The 141 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,039 next day I was studying the whole I p I. It was like, 142 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,759 yeah, I'm going to stay here forever. Yeah? Yeah? And what 143 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,200 was it? I mean, was it the two way binding? Was it 144 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,919 the API? Was the community? Was there something else that? Yeah? 145 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:39,360 Yeah it was. I mean I didn't know a lot of community back then, 146 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,240 but I really liked two things. One of the two way binding. 147 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,840 I didn't know anything about performance back then, so everything was two way binding 148 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:56,720 for me. Probably the the apps were not performance at all and horrible in 149 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,440 that in that sense that it was very easy to work with and also, 150 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:09,840 as I said, to create an attack an element that was very very easy 151 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:13,240 to me to get because in flex you can do exactly the same you know, 152 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:16,080 the reflects you can you can do exactly that and and to do that 153 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,919 in anger and putting on the age stema. It was like, oh my 154 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:24,799 god, this is this is perfect. I can't do anything with this thing. 155 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:30,879 And yeah, and I started working with that like since the nine years 156 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:35,480 nice. So I'm guessing then that you remember all of the angst and worry 157 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,559 over eng other two right when they came and they put up the tombstones. 158 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,120 We're not gonna have this anymore. We're not going to have that anymore. 159 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:46,440 You know. People, Okay, so what what is it? What? 160 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:48,519 What? You know? What's coming? And it took them a couple of 161 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,840 years to get it out. So yeah, what was your experience going through 162 00:14:52,919 --> 00:15:01,840 that? Uh? Well, the thing is that we when Angler two was 163 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:09,799 out, I started working for a new company with my company, not just 164 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:15,519 as a finance now, but with the company. And that was like four 165 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:20,039 years ago or so four years and a little bit more, I think, 166 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:28,639 and I remember that we said, Okay, we have to do this very 167 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:33,960 big platform and and and then we have to do this other small thing very 168 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,120 quick. So we're going to do this this this small thing quick with Anglers 169 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,039 and the big perform that it's going to be worked for three years or whatever. 170 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,879 We're going to do that with Angler, even starting with the Alpha, 171 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:56,279 because we knew back then that the API looked very well and we want to 172 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:02,799 have something for the future. So the good thing and the bad thing is 173 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:08,639 that we started with the Angler Alpha and today we are, like almost four 174 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:17,159 years ago later, we are still maintaining the same app. And it was 175 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:26,440 interesting process because we started with the Angler Alpha and back then there was no 176 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:38,159 no web park or any other way to compile your assets or whatever, and 177 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,120 you had to do all that with you know, I remember that we started 178 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,919 using Golf, so we did something like web park it's doing today, but 179 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,360 with Golf, and then that in the alpha, and then I remember that 180 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,159 I think that it was it was like on September or so or October the 181 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,680 final release was out and we kind of started using web pack. But the 182 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:11,440 problem was that all that we did with Golf and Solon was not useful and 183 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:18,799 we had to start. We had to remove entirely or building process and start 184 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:26,200 using the new one. So all this processes of varieting, writing the build 185 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:34,599 processes, removing them, then moving to the new build process. That was 186 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:37,920 very very hard. I was gonna say, I mean, they made tools 187 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,240 to do a lot of this stuff. Oh, there was this other thing 188 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:48,119 I remember there was there was something like web pack before web back. I 189 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,359 don't remember the name. I don't even remember the name of that thing. 190 00:17:52,440 --> 00:18:00,559 Gold Gold It was good. There was Grant, then gold we it was 191 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:06,519 better, and then appearing another one that I think that it just disappeared. 192 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:11,200 I don't remember that one. It could it compete for for some time with 193 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:21,680 golf, and it was better in the sense that it was better removing unneeded 194 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,839 assets and that stuff. But I don't know. I just remember that it 195 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:33,279 was very hard to write all the bill processes and so on, and and 196 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,359 then every you know, six months more or less you had to change your 197 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:45,279 bill process because the anger thing was changing that and so on. Uh So, 198 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,680 yeah, that that that was hard. 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For a while, 215 00:19:57,759 --> 00:20:06,240 there lot of time, you know, working with reading gigab issues about 216 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,119 what is this what is this weird error that I'm seeing on the console, 217 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:18,880 putting on Google, going to gighab, reading long threads of people saying maybe 218 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,559 you can do this thing or that thing. Reading also the the code itself, 219 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:30,640 the of the the compilers, to see you can do something. Well, 220 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:36,359 it was it was very interesting and I learned a lot with that, 221 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:44,279 but I don't want to do it again. I think that I love people 222 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,119 that it's doing compilers because I don't want to spend time doing webpas. No, 223 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:55,359 I agree, you know, I just want to be focused on my 224 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:57,599 code. I mean, yeah, let me write code, let me make 225 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,519 problems go away, and yeah, make it go on the web somehow. 226 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,640 Yeah. So thank you to everybody behind web back, Typescript and all the 227 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:15,400 other compilersli yeah, everything, love your work, Thank you for everything. 228 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:21,559 Yeah. So you've been doing Angular for you know, nine years. What 229 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:26,160 kinds of things have you built with Angular? Oh? Well, I've done 230 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:37,039 interesting things. The first thing that I did it was like smart level for 231 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:45,319 uh, you know these cell phone companies that they have these booths with all 232 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:52,640 the cell phones, and they want to have below that cell phone a smart 233 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:57,119 label, and that a small level was done with Android and we build an 234 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:04,400 app that you can and with Cordoba and Angular, and in that in that 235 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,960 small label you can put videos and imagic galleries of the of the cell phone 236 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:22,359 and also the technical specifications and the price and how much will will that phone 237 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,160 cost to you depending on the you know, the the rate that you take 238 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:34,240 with the with the cell phone company mm hmm with a career. And that 239 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:41,519 was very interesting because in the booth they had like I don't remember, it 240 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:48,440 was like ten or so labels, small labels and they can put the old 241 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,759 information remotely from from a CMS and it was an interesting project. That was 242 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,119 my favorite anology spreader, but it was it was pretty nice. I don't 243 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:04,079 also a lot of video when angular. I actually have the open source project 244 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,200 called videogler. I'm not using it at all right now, and people is 245 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,720 complaining because it's not working with a I'm sorry for that, because you know, 246 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,720 the prind is that I don't have time to maintain that right now, 247 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:27,799 and I serve for any inconvenience to the community. I've done the last four 248 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:34,680 years or so, I've been working mostly in fintech, working in a platform 249 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:44,359 to do investments online very easily. It's a it's an alternative market. It's 250 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,279 not the main market like NASA and so on. It's an alternative market, 251 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,279 but it is very interesting and we are working a lot with forms and a 252 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:03,720 lot of work with bdfs too. I also remain were doing uh small city 253 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:10,640 app h that was a very long project to like two three years. They 254 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,519 are actually using it in Orlando right now. M hm. And it was 255 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,799 an app to track in a Google Maps trucks with the garbage trucks and then 256 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,119 they can they can see the roots that the trucks are doing and you know, 257 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:37,319 improve those routes depending on how much garbage they took on every on, 258 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:48,200 every on, every place, because we the trucks had a balance and they 259 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:53,119 can know how much kilos they took on every place, so we can improve 260 00:24:53,559 --> 00:25:00,880 and the roots and until okay, this track this week will go through this 261 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:07,920 route here because we know that twice a week our truck has to pay to 262 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:11,599 pass here because they do a lot of a lot of garbage, but in 263 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,119 this other street it's only needed one so they can pass the next week or 264 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,279 whatever. Teknd of stuff. It was very nice and I don't know, 265 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:30,400 I I don't taking stuff. I did also a CMS like entirely the whole 266 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:37,200 CEMS back end, you know like wor press where you can drag and drop 267 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:45,440 the sections of the website, like I won't hear a main new and I 268 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:52,119 won't hear three columns with you know, this column is going to be when 269 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,319 new and this order is going to be a gallery or whatever, and this 270 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:02,279 order is going to be an extrack of another new type and stuff. It 271 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,920 was very nice to do that too. Pretty long project too, so mostly 272 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,839 probably I have not worked in that many projects, but it was long projects. 273 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,960 Most of them took me two years, one year this last one. 274 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,640 I've been working for this company for four years, so long products. Mostly 275 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,720 Yeah, what are you working on now? I'm working in this fintech the 276 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:33,799 fintech? Yeah, in this ininterproject. Basically, you can enter in the 277 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:41,960 platform and if you are an advisor for for for someone that for an investor, 278 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,839 and an advisor for an investor, then you enter in the platform. 279 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:52,440 You can you can create an investment in behalf of that investor and then when 280 00:26:52,480 --> 00:27:03,599 you have you can fill up these forms and this where will will generate PDFs 281 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:11,400 like legal pds UH, and then you can present that electronically with docusine. 282 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:22,559 Three party companies can enter in docusine, make signatures to approve that that that 283 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:33,599 order and then UH and then this goes to a process where another company reviews 284 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,480 that everything is fine, so the advisory investor are in good place. They 285 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,079 put their signatures this three party company, it's in good place, they put 286 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,160 the signature whatever. Then this is approved and then the order is completed and 287 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:57,920 the investors can start with money, any money. And this is how how 288 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:06,319 the system works roughly and splaining it very very fast, but it is mostly 289 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,119 very complicated because we do a lot of stuff with with forms, so we 290 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:18,559 generate all the forms dynamically on the fly, so we don't have one form 291 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:25,680 for every order, so each order is different and can combine severe forms and 292 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,079 so on. So yeah, as I said, four years working with that, 293 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,920 it's that's a lot of cool. Yeah. Cool. Well, if 294 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,480 people want to connect with you online where they do that, uh yeah, 295 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,240 they can find me as al cash and every network you call that yeah E 296 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:56,000 L, E C A S H. And at Twitter I'm at ala cash. 297 00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:02,599 On GitHub I'm al cash too, so yeah, you can find me 298 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:11,079 there. When the company name is by default dot com like bite uh like 299 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:18,599 like baits and bites, so bite default that's pretty much everything my my Gmail. 300 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:23,039 It's also like at gmail dot com. If anyone wants to make some 301 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:30,960 questions or whatever, they can cut that contact me there. Yeah, that's 302 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:36,599 it awesome, Let's go ahead and do some pics. Okay, you have 303 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:40,079 stuff you want to shout out about on the picks. In terms of notte 304 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:49,599 I'm going to recommend some a couple of libraries that a friend of mine is 305 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:57,160 doing. When it's ts dot data that Jason, I think, let me 306 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,599 find I'm finding it. I I don't have that good memory with This is 307 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,559 libraries that we are using right now at a project, and he made it 308 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:15,319 open source and I'm enjoying a lot working with this. It's all uh that 309 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:23,960 the data that Jason, it's a it's a library to decode Jason's I gave 310 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:33,400 a talk recently at Anti Pollen about that. But I'm not the creator. 311 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:40,680 I'm just consumer. But the creator works with me, and I think that 312 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:48,559 it's very interesting and it's taken a lot of ideas from ELM and we are 313 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:55,799 applying those ideas, those good ideas of ELM into our project and it's interesting. 314 00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,400 I really like it. Actually, I've been studying a little bit of 315 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:07,759 ELM and they have very interesting ideas and concepts. It's it's nice to learn 316 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:15,200 new languages, always so. And this is one and Antix remote data. 317 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:22,759 Uh. This is also a library that joint here my friend and co worker, 318 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,680 and we are using also this one and I like it, especially if 319 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:34,160 you if you are working with you know, anngie x or any other functional 320 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:42,119 program in library like that. In terms of having fun, I can recommend, 321 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:52,680 for example, I'm I'm enjoying right now playing the a MS and it's 322 00:31:53,400 --> 00:32:00,680 very nice table tape tabletop game. Uh, the New age, the AMS 323 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:07,279 and the New Age. It's interesting game. I like it. You can 324 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,200 play with your friends. Is operative against the monster. It's perfect to have 325 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,799 good effning with your friends. That's it. That's this is what I'm wanting 326 00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:22,759 to be my pigs awesome. I'm gonna jump in with a few picks as 327 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:28,720 well. So one pick that I have and I'll go ahead and put the 328 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:35,000 link up is I've been working on a podcasting course. I think I mentioned 329 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:40,640 in the last episode. But the system that I've been working through to get 330 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:49,119 all that stuff together is a course on how to create courses. It's called 331 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,119 Course creator Pro. I'm going to drop an affiliate link in. It is 332 00:32:52,359 --> 00:33:00,920 not cheap, just to make people aware, but it's basically a thousand dollars. 333 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,039 But the thing that's terrific about it is it walks you through the whole 334 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:15,559 process of creating the course. So they walk you through how to record them, 335 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,039 they walk you through how to put it together, they walk you through 336 00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:23,400 the process of selling it and marketing it and all that stuff, and it's 337 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:30,880 it's it's awesome. So I'm gonna go ahead and pick of course creator pro 338 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:39,160 and yeah, definitely check it out and yeah that that's pretty much my pick 339 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,880 there. I don't think I have anything else. So thanks for coming and 340 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000 talking to me, Raoul, Thanks to you to me. Yeah, no 341 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:52,960 problem, we'll go ahead and wrap this up. But this was really fun. 342 00:33:53,400 --> 00:34:02,440 I had remember of my career. Alright, folks, Well until next 343 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,519 time, max out everybody. Bandwidth for this segment is provided by cash flive, 344 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,199 the world's fastest CDN. Deliver your content fast with cash f Live. 345 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,280 Visit c A C H E F l Y dot com to learn more.