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Jacin Zos. Our guy Juan is in today for the first couple of hours,
for today. You're in today, right, not just for the next
couple of hours. Hey, no, two to the room. Were you
kod that last night? I did? I did, walked in the building
because we got there, laid we parked, parked down on twenty second Street
because I had to go get a haircut right after the show, and then
so I didn't get there on time. You paid for the haircut? Where
did they cut their hair all over the place? Man? You should see
it. Somebody could have made a rug out of it. And so we
got there. It was the top of the third inning and walking the door.
And as we're walking up the ramp at zero zero two outs top of
the third runner on base and as soon as I sit down, Guy goes
yard two run Homer, another base hit, another another two run, Homer
got another run. That they're down five nothing and we hadn't even had a
hot dog yet. And so that was that. Chappelle asked you not to
come back. I think Chip Hale would prefer that they didn't come back,
and we are not going to come back. We're gonna we're gonna order some
pizza and watch the game at home. So they have a chance to win.
Yes, yes, they do have a chance. Ran into our buddy
Vic up the stairs and he obviously snitched me off. Is you know as
soon as I got there that the Arizone started losing. I got a texture
him. You were not even in the door. And all I know is
I went to three other games this year and they won all three, and
even one of them when they were down a couple of runs in extra innings
that came back away. They were not as important as last night. They
were not. They were not. They got two more shots at this.
Just got to win one. Okay, so win one. So we've taken
away at least maybe a breaking news thing from you, but it needed to
be said, yeah when we need to cover that. Yeah, okay,
So Friday we'll see if we can get through this. So okay, I'm
sure Juan has the controls ready for us. I'm ready to go. I
have a question for you. Oh go. Have you ever been arrested on
the way to a round of golf? I've never been arrested, Thank god.
I was thinking about that as we were talking, because we talked about
this to this. Yeah, yeah, you have, but I wasn't arrested.
I was just in I was in handcuffs once, so that's different.
Yeah, I was never as as as as a as uh Danny Ocean said
at the beginning of of Ocean's eleven, I was never really I was never
charged. So in your points thing where you have to get points for handcuffs
so that you didn't get arrested, right, I haven't been arrested, but
a lot of times they asked me if you've ever have you ever been handcuffed?
And it doesn't it doesn't. It doesn't differentiate between hand being handcuffed,
you know, by a cop, you know, being handcuffed by your girlfriend
or your wife. Yeah, just have you ever been handcuffed? We didn't
have a uh A check, what do you close? We didn't have a
clearance check people here at Fox. No, No, they no, they
did not do a background check. Well I don't have a record. I
don't have a record. You're making it public. I I never even went
to juvenile court for anything, not even because they didn't find out. Your
dad did? That was your juvenile You know, if my dad had ever
found out that I had been handcuffed, he would have taken me to jail
and and shoved me in the door and said to keep it. Always told
us, did your dad did tell you this? If you ever get arrested,
no plan on, plan on spending the night in jail because I'm not
coming out. I'm not coming to get you until you've at least spent the
night. I've never done stuff like that. Did say that name? We
were warned. We talked about food, but what's there because in the army
they'll make you eat whatever, you whatever. Yeah, but yeah, we
were all told that. You know, you ever get arrested, you're staying
the night. Okay, So go ahead and tell the story. So this
morning situation with a Scottie Scheffler, the world's number one golfer at the golf
course at Valhalla. It's in Louisville, Kentucky. He's arriving at the golf
course. There's a wreck right near the entrance, and unfortunately somebody got killed.
There's a fatality. I think somebody got hit by a car. Yeah,
so there's a fatality. So the cops are directing traffic around, trying
to get you know, people around and whatnot. And scheffer comes driving up
and he needs to get into the golf course obviously, so he was trying
to work his way through. The cops are trying to direct him to go
somewhere else he wanted to go where he wanted to go. There was a
confrontation of some sort, as he said in his press conference, a lot
of chaos. A cop ended up, you know, grabbing onto his car.
Scheffler kept driving and apparently dragged this officer and he eventually got stopped and
they arrested him. He was was taking literally handcuffed and taking to jail.
There's video of him being handcuffed in the whole bit and put in the back
of a car. He's charged with a felony along with a couple of other
misdemeanors. So he's got like three or four criminal charges against him. Goes
to the jail. I mean through the whole deal. I mean, there's
his his his booking shot, his mug shot, he's in the orange jumpsuit,
the whole bit. He talked in his press conference about the fact that
he's sitting there in the booking room and the ESPN is on television, and
he is seeing himself on television being arrested, and you know, the words
getting out about him. He eventually got released and he made his tea time.
So did he's finished? Yes? What did he score five under?
Party? Well, he's yeah, he'shot, five undred party Lincoln exactly exactly.
You know, if somebody made the point that if you can get arrested,
booked, taken to jail, spend the morning in jail, get back
to the golf course, uh an hour before your tea time, and still
shoot five under that golf course is just way too easy, too easier.
It's what's there's a phrase in horse racing, a bad day the good the
track is better than a good day of the dolphine. Exactly. You know,
a lot of a lot. First of all, it's been it's been
the subject of a lot of funny stuff on where did you want to go.
I'm not sure where to go with this other than there wasn't a gender
here. Well no, no, I mean it's not. It's the big
news. That's the biggest news in sports. But you wanted to kind of
no. Well, I mean, you know, we were talking off air,
and I'm just saying that there are certain, let's just say, certain
types of people who, if they had done the same thing, might have
been in a lot bigger trouble. The scottis Cheffer got it. I don't
know when I saw this this morning. I'm thinking circumstances of events. It
was early in the morning, right, uh, and dark in front of
a country in front of a country club. He was in a marked PGA
car. That's what I was talking to that. I don't he was in
the car that was And not that they need to know who he is,
not that they didn't know who he is, because I'm not an advocate for
that. Uh, there're kind of been yeah, yeah, you know right,
And that's why I'm not gonna say what time and circumstances will you get
in trouble? I doubt it's well, look, I mean he'll get you
know, he'll probably get a ticket right, he'll get a misdemeanor or something
like that. He's not gonna get a you know, one of the charges
that one of the charges is a felony. He was a cop. He's
not gonna get a felony out of this. He'll probably get a misdemeanor.
He'll have a record of that, he'll pay a fine. The cop may
sue him, who knows. I don't know if they're allowed to. I
don't know. I don't know if they're allowed to or not. It's part
of their job, right that they're dealing with this stuff. I don't think.
Yeah, I mean, you don't get to see a guy that shoots
you, right, but who knows? You know, and and you know,
you or I or anybody else in that situation where you know you're gonna
go through the same thing. Looks he's not a horrible guy, right,
you know, they don't want to pin a felony on him, but they're
also gonna want a record of this. So he'll get a misdemeanor or something
like that, failure to comply whatever it is, right, and and he'll
he'll maybe go do you know, he'll pick up some trash on the freeway,
one day or something like that, and and it'll all be over.
Do you remember, well, we we've dealt with these solid lives. I
remember something with uh. I don't even bring it up to minor. It
just happens. It just stuff like this happens, unfortunate. But he it
was a good day at the the office for him. Yeah. Well again,
you know, people, he's gonna be first, He's gonna be the
butt of jokes for a long time. There's some funny stuff there. There
was somebody put they said, picture of the the arresting a picture of the
officer who arrested Scotti Scheffler, and it was a you know, ah,
you know, like a police officer portrait right in front of the flag with
the uniform on, but it had Rory mcroy's head. And then there was
another the one that I was laughing at. A couple of minutes ago.
Somebody posted, I'm gonna say there's a picture of Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman
in Shushank Redemption, you know, sitting next to each other. And some
guy said, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell my son this is Tiger Woods and
Scottie Scheffler. Stuff like that uh, you know, just just funny,
just you know, goofy stuff like that. You know, and I watched
a good chunk of his press conference. Look, he's he's not happy it
happened, he's embarrassed, he's you know, he feels bad that he did
this. He's pointing out, Look, whatever happened to me. Somebody died
there. So let's remember that. You know, he said that he's handling
it about as well as you can. He talked about it. Now,
he didn't talk specifically about this is what I did. He didn't do any
of that, but he talked about the experience of being taken to jail,
being in a jail cell, watching himself on TV while he's in an orange
jumpsuit, the whole bit. You know. He was very apologetic, and
you know he's gonna take he's gonna catch some crap. You know. Locker
rooms for athletes are places where you do stuff like this. You pay a
price for it a long time, especially among this group of gentlemen's group right
right, talking crap to each other or whatever. Yeah, so it'll be
it was weird. I saw the same thing you did this morning. I
see that couldn't be right the headline. You have to click from the story
and see that it was right. She's going, no he got arrested.
I said, no, he didn't stand. You just hit the ball right
now. No he got arrested. Yeah, yeah, I had got to
go do it. Look at it for myself. But you know, an
unfortunate incident. I'm not gonna say, you know, stuff happens, but
it's you know, stuff happens, and uh, he you know, he
got he got himself in a bad in a bad way, you know,
all the all the like ESPN's and they're calling it a big misunderstanding. Well,
it's hard to misunderstand when the cops tell you don't go there? You
ever have you ever? Have you guys ever done that? Because I know
the cop you know, when your are directing traffic and stuff like that,
and and they tell you don't go until you go, And have you every
guys ever been in trouble like that? No? No, you know,
because if they say, look, I've had two brothers were cops. Right.
If you know, if I ever did anything that embarrassed the hell,
they would shoot me. Okay, so you know I never did anything like
that, but you know I've did. I've always you did it before they
became cops. No, well a couple were cops. Well here's the deal.
As soon as on that situation I told you about the situation. I
we were messing around with the guy's car and we're playing a prank in the
cops sauce. And as soon as the cops came after us, we stopped.
I didn't you know, didn't even think about running ornything. We just
stopped. You know, we were we were in my car. We stopped.
The cops shining lights on. He told us to get out of the
car. We got out of the car, and you know, I did
exactly what the cops told me to do. And anytime, you know,
in a situation like that, that's if you do that, you're usually usually
okay. Yeah, usually okay, not always, because we've seen situations where
you beat your complying with everything that they're telling you to do, and bad
things happen to you. But usually if a cop says, don't do that,
and if you don't do it, you're gonna be okay, right,
you know, one you want to make this public with your family, You're
you're a good kid. Yeah, you're acquired. Boy, I'm gonna keep
that as my record. I've never I don't want to ever put myself any
close to that type of situation. So that's what I try to day in
day out. Yeah, it's it's we just got to shuck shank, Steve.
The only time I saw the inside of a jail was to do a
story. So yeah, never had to go to jail for anything. Okay,
So he says, today maybe seventeenth May seventeenth eighteenth, Okay, I
promise, Okay, So today's show, Hey, yes, excuse me,
a little different, Yeah, but the same. A d stunt shaver who's
our well, are proud, we're a former intern who are very proud of
because she's she's got a really nice gig working for fan Duel TV at the
horse tracks in Southern cal Southern California. She's kind of a handicapper as well.
So we're gonna talk to her about the Breaknans tomorrow, hopefully get a
great, great tip, hopefully a winner from her, and so she'll be
on and it's it's kind of, you know, I kind of feel like
the proud dad Steve, you know, when she's coming on. So we'll
have d coming on at three point fifteen, and then we'll bring in a
frequent guest and haven't had him on in a while, just get his thoughts
on some of this stuff going on. Jack Jack Jake Fisher, Yeah for
Arizon Football said, a lot of stuff going on with you a football,
you a football and basketball with the commits and then returns or no returns or
whatever. So okay, why don't we just come to the break because we're
at the one minute mark anyway, all right, let's do that. We're
going to take a break. Arizona. Oh softball should have gotten started or
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Streamy Live, Honey iHeartRadio WAP. This is I on the Ball with Steve
Rivera and Jay Gatzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to
joining the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's
Jacobsauce down the phone. We have the stent shaver from FanDuel TV. I
have a hard time seeing Fandel TV, given I've known it as TVG for
all these years. How are you d I'm good. How are you guys?
Fine? Uh? Your guy Jay needs your help. We all need
your help tomorrow. I'm preaching to the choir who you already know that he
needed many more ways than one. Well, that's why you guys have me
here. I'm here to help. Okay. So how's life out there in
La with the with the track? That's the track. Life is good.
It's been kind of warm up the track. It looks like we're going to
have a cooler week up at Stanta Needa this week, so we're not going
to be letting our brains out. As far as Pimlical, where the Preakness
is going to be. It looks dry today, but it sounds like there's
going to be quite a bit of weather moving it overnight, is it?
Uh? I mean, it's always a fact factory when you get muddy and
stuff like that. But are there certain types of horses, specific types of
horses that might race better than the mud versus the others or is it the
same for everybody? It kind of depends. So definitely when looking at a
race and all track is listed as muddy or sloppy, there are certain fire
lines that do like running in the mud better than others. A fire being
gun Runner, Spice down toiling Candy. Those fires all loved running in their
mud, and their progeny as well seem to also like running in the mud
and slop. So those are horses that you can absolutely look too. Unfortunately,
we don't really have those runners in this race and the Preakness tomorrow,
which is the second leg of the Triple Crown, But there are horses in
that race that have shown that either they like running in the slop or they
don't mind the kick back in their face, and because it feels different under
their feet running on a dry surface versus running on a wet surface, it
feels slippery to them. No. In fact, Jay, some of the
factors of running the front in front, because you don't want the mud in
your horses don't like that, So if you have a front runner, I
think Imagination is one of those guys, right. Imagination is definitely a horse
that is untested when he's not on the lead, and he's unt is on
a money or sloppy track. So I do have my reservations about him tomorrow.
He's trying a different level of horses than he has raced against in the
past. He's been running against a lot of his stablemates, which he hasn't
run poorly against. In his second place in the Santanita Derby to Stronghold,
whose Stronghold went on to run the seventh, which was a pretty good seventh
in the Kentucky Derby. He came out of a really good race in there,
and I think Strongholds race helps Stronghold's race in the Kentucky Derby helped support
that San Anita Derby run that Imagination had. But the horse has never finished
worse than second, So I don't think that he's a bad bet. I
just think he's very untested traveling outside of California, running on a different surface
than he's not used to. But he does get Frankie to Toria board and
that's a huge bonus in my opinion. All right, all right, let's
start at the top with Mystic Dan. You know, not a lot of
buzz about this horse. Kind of came out of nowhere last in the Derby,
you know, but they always tend to pick the derby winner as a
favorite. I don't know if he's going to be the favorite, but as
a favorite, what are your thoughts on Mystic Dan, whether or not this
horse can pull off a second race. So with the scratch of Mook,
who was Baffert's number one runner in there, Moose was originally the eight to
five morning line. Once he scratched due to a fever. The morningline maker
actually redid the morning line for the Preakness race and Missy Dan was listed as
the eight to five favorite. So he's the current favorite. I suspect you
will go off as a favorite at race time. Eight to five is a
little low I think for him, given that he was eighteen to one on
race day, right, So it's it's definitely not the value that you got
for him in the Kentucky Derby, but he was a horse that again he
likes running in the slop. He showed that in the grade theory Southwest at
Oakland Park back into February when he won by eight legs like that, off
the pace, just got an absolutely great trip and just flowed home to the
slop and didn't look back against anyone. So I think with the off track,
he's definitely wanted to consider her all right, and he had a perfect
grade. He had a perfect ride from the inside all the way through.
That's probably gonna not going to be the case this time. Well you have
to you never know until you know right this is this is true. Brian
Hernandez got him a absolutely perfect trip riding the rail all the way around in
the Kentucky Derby. Now that he's going to be in the four hole rather
than the three hole, you know, I don't think that makes a huge
difference. With the field is also half the size. We're now looking at
an eight horse field instead of a twenty horse field, so that does change
some things. Then the pace I think has changed dramatically with the scratch of
move because you don't have that natural speed from the middle hole in the gate
to be able to just set a blistering pace for him to kind of sit
off of interesting. So all right, so after missed again, where do
we go? Well, this is where it gets interesting, because if you
want a horse that's also proven in the slot, the next place to look
is the three CA freedom. His current morning line is seven to two.
I suspect he'll stay right around there. But he won the Louisiana Derby,
which was run at a mile in three sixteen, so he's proven at the
distance, not just over the distance, but at the distance. He ran
a really good fourth place effort in the Kentucky Derby. He was one of
my Kentucky Derby picks if he remember Steve. Yeah, And he's one that
will come running late. So I suspect that once they break away from the
gate, he will be in like the third flight of horses. He's gonna
sit off the pace. He may sit a little closer if they're going a
little slow, but he's definitely one that'll have a late kick coming down the
stretch. Now we could have a cavalry charge coming down the stretch depending on
how fast that pace is. If it's a blistering pace and there's a pace
melt down because two horses decide to go out and run themselves into the ground.
You're going to see a couple of horses coming late, and this one's
going to come with a really big run. He also gets slazy and fraudibourg,
which is a really big point to think about in my mind. This
jockey is aggressive. He's been on him for his last two races. He
was on him in the Louisiana Derby onety one, he was on him in
the Tucky Derby, and of course again got a pretty good trip. He
just came from even further back than what missed it Dan did. All right,
So is there is there any particular type of race you're expecting to see,
you know, a lot of speed, not a lot of speed?
Uh, you know and put in you know the different types of races.
You know who do those those favors? Can Can you say that with with
with any of these horses? Yeah, So a pace scenario that I see
happening pretty likely his imagination is going to go to the front. He's on
the outside, he doesn't have a lot of options. He gets franky Detoria
board an imagination in this race was considered the quote unquote other Bafford horse.
He was considered the number two Bafford horse of the two that were entered.
Now again, he put out a really good race in the sant Anita Derby.
He's coming in fresh off a month's layoff. He's put in two bullet
works. He traveled well. He did not get stick on like his stablemate
Moose. Bob Baffort put out a quote today saying, I don't know what
he'll do if he gets loose on the front end. He's not normally one
that goes out to the front by himself. He goes with someone and he
stays with them the entire way around, he said. Bob Baffert said,
it's up to Frankie FRANKYTTRRI, who's his jockey. He's kind of on his
own on this one because we don't really know what he's going to do if
he were to get loose on the front. Now, this horse doesn't like
kickback in his face, which we don't know if he does, because he's
always been on the front and he's never run on a sloppy track. The
front, going right out to the lead is probably going to be the best
place for him, so he doesn't ever get any kickback. Now, the
horse that I see going with him is the sixth. He's the gray.
It's one of two runners in here for the coach Dwayne Lucas. He's coming
off of winning the Pat Day Mile that was also run on Derby Day,
so he's also coming off as two week layoff, just like some of the
other horses in here that ran in the Derby. He's the gray. I
don't see making it all the way around for the mile in three sixteenths.
I just don't think that distance is for him, but I do see him
going out early and pressing that pace a little bit. In that second flight
of horses, I can see just Steele, the seven who's the second runner
for de Wayne Lucas, as well as mister Dan being in that flight of
horses, and the eight who we haven't talked about. Tuscan Gold, who's
interesting because he comes in with the least amount of races under his belt.
This will only be his fourth start. His last start was in the Louisiana
Derby, which was a mile in three fifteenth so that's the same race that
Catching Freedom won. He ran third that day. He went from breaking his
maiden in January to running in a Grade one in a Grade two race,
so that's a really big jump, and I think it shows his professionalism that
he went from a maiden race where he got his first win to going up
against winners in a really good race and running a really valiant third. So
Chad Brown has said earlier about his works this week that he's working better than
he has before his last race. He's in top form, so I think
this horse would also be making a really big run. He also was supposed
to run in a different race. It took him off that race to get
into this race correct, which is a big deal. It is I mean,
there's more perse money here and this is a different group of horses than
he would have faced in the other race. But it sounds like this horse
is up for the challenge. Again, we don't really know what he's gonna
do on an off track, However, he's fired Megladoro is known to have
horses like the offgoing, so I suspect he will be okay with a muddy
track. Oh who do you like? Who do I like? You know?
I would love to see Missing Dan get the second leg of the Triple
Crown and work towards winning the Triple Crown series, But I don't think he's
the most likely winner in here. I think there are faster horses. I
think there are horses that are more likely to close. After watching the races
today, the trips that are winning, our trips that are sitting just off
the pace and they're letting their just stalking the leaders before they go run them
down. But I really think casting freedom is would the horse to look at
him here at a seven to two morning line. Brad Hawks doesn't often run
horses back on a two week layoff. He's more likely to wait and put
them in another race and wait on him. But this horse, after watching
him gallop in the morning, he is on the bit and pulling. He
looks like he's pulling the arms out off of his exercise rider, like he
looks like he's breathing fire in the morning. He's very fresh, coming off
that, coming off that fourth place finish in the derby, and so I
think there's room for him to improve. Now. The thing with Mystic Dan
is Kenny McPeak has said right along that he cares about the horse and his
well being. He wasn't going to put him here if he wasn't ready.
So the fact that Mystic Dan has had his head buried in his food.
Bull he's eating better now than he was before the derby. I think is
also a really good sign because food seems to be his love language. Kenny
McPeak has been very honest that you know, he's an old soul, is
very easy to read him what he wants to do, what he doesn't want
to do. And he's only wanted to eat and wanted to train, and
he's trained him really great right now and so and he's a very versatile horse.
So it doesn't sound like he can not have a good trip, if
that makes sense. Okay, all right, But we had a couple of
other things to talk about. Jay had a question to me yesterday. I
answered him about Bob Baffort, and I said, you might be able to
answer better than me because you're closer to the situation. He's in Pimlico today
or this week. Go ahead and ask her the questions you asked me about
Bob. Whether he'd get out of this? Yeah, I mean, is
he is he kind of getting sick of this? Is he? Or is
he just kind of like just rolling with it? And will he, you
know, keep just doing what he's doing well? Will follow him? Yeah?
And is this going to be like when people think of Bob Bafford down
the road, the issues that he's had is that I don't want to say
his legacy, but with that kind of hang over him. I mean,
the legacy that I've always seen of Bob Baffort is American pharaoh justify two triple
Crown winners within a couple of years of each other. That's the legacy that
I look at. I personally had a chance to interview him and talk to
him, and you know, he generally cares about his horses. It's unfortunate
the situation that he's in with the Churchill Track, specifically in Kentucky. He's
running his horse where his horses where he can, where they fit, where
he's able to run them. You know, it's unfortunate of the situation that
it is. It's been three years, but it doesn't sound like the suspension
is going to end anytime soon. But he's got some of the best horses
in the country, and I've said, right along with the best horses should
have an opportunity to run where they fit. And given that you've been in
southern California at least a year almost two now or two now, I think
that the tracks in southern California treat him very well. You know, he
is the king, same as they do with Pimlical, because he's the king
there as well. You know, he's said right along that he loves going
to the Breakness. He loves going to Maryland. Him and d Wayne Lucas
were caught this morning casting up in the stakes barner earlier, just tit chatting.
They both really enjoyed Maryland and the laid back set that it is.
You know, it's a fun Pinmnical is a fun place to be for the
Preakness. It's it's laid back and everybody is very kind and we are there
to have a good time. So I think he's really enjoying being there for
the Preakness and having another runner. Whether he takes back to back Freaknesses,
I don't know. If he had National Treasure last year, who went on
to win the Pegasus World Cup and is just an absolute amazing horse. I've
had a chance to actually meet him, So it's not to say that imagination
isn't good enough. It's just I think the conditions could be against him.
But I think Bob Baffert's got a couple other runners going tomorrow as well.
So he's enjoying Maryland right now, and definitely California racing. He does dominate
in California quite a bit. He the stakes races. His horses are just
sometimes heads and heals better than everybody else. Right. I think he has
a few going tomorrow where you're a lot of maid maiden horses. I have
not really looked at the Santa Nina card tomorrow, and I have been pretty
focused on Solacovia Threek. But you're so in California now right. I am
currently in southern California right now. Yeah, okay, you're having fun.
D You sound like you're having fun. I am enjoying myself. Yeah,
okay, let's call it job. It is worked, but it's not really
work if you enjoy it. So it's okay. Yes. My only demise
is I have Jay with me. He stuck with me. D Yes,
it's okay. I remember this. Well, thank you, all right,
Date, thanks a bunch, man, appreciate it. You will say,
hold dog if you're listening, Hello, all right, thank you. All
right, that was a decent Shaver said, she's fine. Yeah, she's
fine, all right, man, I got my I got my winner right
there, catching Freedom number three. That was going to be my horse.
Let's go get it. That was well, No, I'm not. Now
it's got it. He's got to withstand the kiss of death. No,
I got to figure out other ways to go. All right, let's take
our break. We're to come back. Would love to take your calls five
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delay. They were supposed to start at three o'clock. Now they're slated.
It started three fifty five, so about fifteen minutes from now, and whenever
they get on, we'll, you know, provide periodic updates of that.
And then baseball plays at six o'clock tonight, six oh five, trying to
bounce back from the beating they took last night, and that's really what it
was. They just got beat up. It was Oregon State's picture of the
guy that used to be here was really good. You know, he was
good. Former Pima guy too, always it Pima. I didn't I didn't
know that. I don't remember that. But you know, ninety two they
got beat last night and it wasn't even that close. It was. It
was uh yeah, I mean both teams got off to a good stripe,
but was top of the third. Oregon they put up a five run inning
and then Arizona got one back. But we're never really got back in the
game. We're gonna put up, you know, enough enough runs to just
kind of walk away with that. So Arizona let that one go and and
towards the end of the game, you know, Chip was just using getting
guys some work to make sure he's got the right guys ready for tonight,
you know, to take the shots tonight, Clark candyat it will be on
the hill and we'll see would so if they let's say they get swept,
Oregon State wins it. Yeah, Okay, where are they at now?
Right now? They're up one? What do you mean, game boys,
Arizona's Arizona is half a game up, right, so they win, they'll
be up a game and a half with only one left. That's why if
there was one they could tie. Right, No, they can't tie.
Oregon State has one less game because they had a game ragned out that they
did make up. So so that's why there's that one and a half.
So Arizona's half a game up in the standings. They win tonight, there'll
be a game in half up and there'll only be one game left to play.
So that's why they would plinch. So they need to they need to
just win one of the two games. Okay, sounds good, yep,
Okay, good to talk to d See what's going on tomorrow with the Races,
anything else? We have breaking news with Juan here. Yeah, back
back back to baseball. So they're they're they're struggling with injuries. They had
another another one of their outfielders got hit by a pitch on the hand and
he had to come out of the game. So they really they had to
shuffle the the fielding around and they that basically their short stop had to go
play outfield last night. Uh so we'll we'll see, you know, injury,
why injury wise. What kind of problems are gonna have with that?
Because I think it was in the in the Utah series, the regular left
fielder he hit the wall on a on a trying to make a catch and
hurt his shoulder. So you know they're they're at least last night Chip was
having to maneuver some guys around. We'll see what they come up with with
a lineup for tonight. Okay, Yeah, that's crucial this time of year
when they need the people. Hey, you can't be running out of players.
Yeah did you see? Oh did you you you saw Chip? I
saw? Michael Levitt tweeted about the picture from last night that he kind of
had a sense that he was gonna leave. Yeah, just was was not
told until the last minute, right right, Yeah, So yeah, we
were, you know, we were talking about that last night, and you
know, I mean he got Look, he got the better of him.
He came back against his old team, got the better of him. Last
night. He looked really good. I mean he was I don't know if
you'd say he was dominating, but he was very effective. He you know,
the Arizona just wasn't getting guys on base, and and they really never
really threatened. They didn't have it anywhere. They had the bases loaded and
something big goulda happened or anything like that. It just just kind of was
very steady, did you say it for the whole thing. We left in
the eighth inning when they scored those next rumor second, you know there,
you know, they've only got two at bats to you know, to catch
a night. You know, it was nine to one. We thought,
uh, and there again Arizona just wasn't. They just weren't doing anything.
They didn't have a lot of buzz, and so we hit the road.
Man. It was you know, if you're going tonight, get there early,
because we I'd say, you know, I had somewhere I had to
be, So I didn't get near the ballpark till about six o'clock, and
we parked basically over on twenty second Street. You know, we were in
Reed Park, but all the way down in those parking lots, you know,
on the other side of the zoo. So that's where people were parking
by the time we got there. So if you planned to be there,
be there early enough to get one of those parking There's a nicety parking lot
on the out over the left field fence that wasn't there for the zoo.
But so there's a lot more parking, but we still had to park out
in the boonies last night. Good crowd, it was pretty good. I
think I got announced at forty six hundred, and I would have guessed that
it was more than that because I know the games that I went to all
had four thousand, and it looked like there were a lot more people there
last night than they were the games that I went to. So but it
was a pretty good crowd. The concession lines were long, so uh,
you know again, get there early, get your food, go, get
your seat, and uh and enjoy the game. Good call. All right,
let's take this call. Hi, you're on the air and I on
the ball. Hey Jay, Hey Steve, Happy birthday, Steve, related
thank you, thank you very much. What's up done? This is oh
not much? I thought the crowd was. It seemed like it was closer
than five thousand. I thought you too, last night. I thought it
was over five I did. Yeah, yeah, I was telling I was
telling my son about the caller last week. I was asking about how can
we get more people out to the ballpark, and he's all like, what
does that dude want exactly exactly that? You know, Look, you know,
four to five thousand people for a college baseball game is pretty damn good.
Yeah, yeah, And uh, I thought what I thought was strange
was to move after Corona came out with an injured hand. Was Mason White
going to center field? I thought that, I go, why would you
move your center fielder. I would have thought, Okay, if if White's
got to go to outfield, why didn't he go to right? But I
don't practice with those guys. Ye don't know what they can do. There's
a really well that must mean that Mason White is pretty damn good because right
growing up, right wasn't our best player in little league or high school whatever,
always the shortstop, and he could play like every position, including pitcher
and catcher. So maybe have something to do with that. And some of
them did, Yeah they did. You were short stuff, weren't you?
Some of them did, Sam. Yeah. See, that's that's why Steve
was being quiet right there. Okay, but you think don taking taking stuff
away from the center fielder. Hey, they can bounce back tonight, don't
you think? I think so? I think I think Candy candy has a
sense fel you can down like uh, Jackson Kent the last couple of trips
out, he's been a little bit. You know, things have happened with
him. Yeah, and candy Otty come in and he just when it's his
turn, it's just like, hey, settled in and let's go. He's
going to handle that side and uh can last night just had that bad inning.
Yeah, man was all with two outs, five runs with two outs.
That was that was awful? Did you think it was two outs with
nobody on? Like what? So? Don did you listen to mister candy
Otti yesterday? I did hear a lot of that, and I did hear.
I thought it was I thought it was a good interview. I think
I like, uh the stories that he told and everything else. And uh,
man seventeen years in the majors, right, Holy moly. Right,
you could tell that he had to come up with that pitch, you know,
the the the knuckleball to kind of you know, just prolong his career.
Right, that's the prolonged career. And you know, when you're a
finesque guy, you can do that. Now when you're the overpowering guy,
because you got your you're limited in terms of years, but your shoulders done
too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I like Lark
and yet I think he'll you know, he's he seems very I know he's
tough, right. He just didn't take any crap from anybody. He just
goes up there and throws and you know he's just gonna beat you. He's
mentally tough. That and then it's it's like in the in the interview yesterday,
it's like he's seen it all before. He's not going to get shook.
You know, he could he could get he could get touched for a
couple of runs in the first and then come back and shut him down the
rest of the way. He's going to forget about that last inning and pitch
this inning. Yeah, he's I think he's real. He's real tough and
real solid that way. I like him. I like him a lot.
You're going tonight. I'm not going tonight. I let I left at the
end of seven last night, and uh, you know, if we have
to, we'll go SAT tomorrow. Probably, Okay, I don't think we're
gonna have to. I I wore my replic Championship ring last night, and
that might have been the ko D last night. Scotty Scottie Scheffler was acting
like a jerk. He's in where he's at. He was it was,
he was, I mean, he goes, I got to get to the
golf course. It's the most important thing in the whole wide world. It's
it's it's like the dumb story about Bill Frieder going. There was that one
story. I don't I don't remember what book it was in, I said,
but it was Bill Frieder's at the golf course and there they've got him
in lines waiting to tee off, and he just grabbed his grabbed his car
and started driving around the course and finding a hole to start on. Come
on, dude, I didn't see that. I didn't hear that. I
remember that. But yeah, you know, it's very simple. That whole
thing could have been avoided by him. By him, there was a there
was an accident where somebody died and there was police on site. There had
to have been red and blue lights flashing. He could he could say it
was dark and all that malarchy, But when you see red and blue lights,
you slowed down and wait, you're not hoopping curves and trying to get
to where you're going right, right, right? Unless you got a unless
you got a nine and a half months pregnant wife in the car with you
and you're going, dude, I need to get her someplace. Thank you,
Amy, I appreciate it. Don maybe see it the ball part.
I wanted to talk real quick about the topic you brought up. I think
yesterday or the day before the Kanis City chief guy. Oh yeah, it's
still more still talk about man polarizing. Let me ask you a quick question.
If you're the guy that's going to speak at one of these things,
what are you talking about? Not talking about that? That's not my answer.
That's not the answer. What are you talking about? If I'm commit
at a commencement you're the guy, you know, I might talk about my
journey a little bit and try to I'll try to. I guess I would
try to relate my experience to what I'm thinking. You're you're looking, you
know where you're going? Right? This is what I did, This is
how I got to where I am, and this is how it can work
for you. Right. And I've actually given a couple of talks like that
at high schools and stuff. You know, over time that Okay, this
is how I got here, you asked me. Yeah, yeah, I
did speak at a high school commencement once you know, they they and I've
just said, you know, I think if I coming no one else was
available, I must not have been you know, I you know, I
think my my uh my, My message was, you know, don't automatically
assume that you can't do something mm hmmm right, just because of who you
are or where you come from. If you think you can do something,
then do it. Take your shot. Yeah, and that's good advice.
Yeah, that's good advice. You might have to take that same advice I
know, just a life. Yeah, my, My whole thing would be,
uh, don't tell let people tell you. No, you don't tell,
you know, and if you don't believe in yourself, who is going
to believe in yourself? Perfect? You know, I mean that that that
is that is perfect. I mean, you know we've all got stories.
Right. The one thing that I do really harp on it and I tell
these kids too, uh, and it involves us. If you're not taking
control of your life in the real world, someone else is gonna do it
for you, and then you're gonna be held. They're gonna tell you what
to do. I mean, you and I are in a situation now at
the older age where we're called or an old shot, which is fantastic.
I don't know, you know, we've I've never been happy because kind of
my boss's named Steve right, and we can yeah, answer to me.
Yeah, no, Steve. I mean, you know, look, I
mean times have changed, you know, over fifteen years ago, six years
or whatever. But you know, there's two stories out from my family about
that. My brother Rick became a lawyer, very successful lawyer, you know,
prominent guy in Tucson. And when he went to his college counselor at
Sunnyside and said, you know, I want to go to college, and
the guy said, no, you should just go work at the mine,
you know. And he was told that you're you're probably better off going to
work at the mind. You'll never make it to college, you know.
And I was, you know, when I had a similar story. I
went into my college counselors my senior year in high school. In high school,
it was the fall, so I wanted to start applying to college and
stuff. And I walked in and I said, you know, I wanted
I want to apply to some colleges. And my college counselors you want to
go to college. And I'm like, yeah, I do, said it
just like that. Your dad did call and he says, no, he
said it just like that, you want to go to college? Yeah,
I really do, you know. And and so I ended up my brother
Rick ended up being my college counselor. He was my advisor, right,
you know, I just want to I would use this guy to go get
applications. But I you know, my Rick was my advisor. So you
know you have that and and you know, both of us could have been
stopped right there, right if we would have listened to the people that we
talk sure, and powerful people, not powerful, but influential, influential people,
yeah, in in our lives. And so you know, you know
your message of don't let people decide for you, you know you decide,
that's a great message, right and and uh, you know, and this
this guy goes up there and uses it as a as a platform too to
go over to some crazy stupid ass. Well, there's people, the people
defending Steve, there's people who believe the weirdest things, and so they're going,
you know, you're going to always find somebody who believes in whatever you
Okay, well some people who believe the world is flat. I mean,
come on, this is not a weird thing. We gotta go. We'll
come back on the side. One has some breaking news, and then we'll
move on with Chick Fisher, all right,