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two SAD at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's

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Jacin Zos. Our guy Juan is
in today for the first couple of hours,

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for today. You're in today,
right, not just for the next

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couple of hours. Hey, no, two to the room. Were you

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kod that last night? I did? I did, walked in the building

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because we got there, laid we
parked, parked down on twenty second Street

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because I had to go get a
haircut right after the show, and then

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so I didn't get there on time. You paid for the haircut? Where

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did they cut their hair all over
the place? Man? You should see

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it. Somebody could have made a
rug out of it. And so we

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got there. It was the top
of the third inning and walking the door.

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And as we're walking up the ramp
at zero zero two outs top of

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the third runner on base and as
soon as I sit down, Guy goes

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yard two run Homer, another base
hit, another another two run, Homer

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got another run. That they're down
five nothing and we hadn't even had a

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hot dog yet. And so that
was that. Chappelle asked you not to

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come back. I think Chip Hale
would prefer that they didn't come back,

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and we are not going to come
back. We're gonna we're gonna order some

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pizza and watch the game at home. So they have a chance to win.

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Yes, yes, they do have
a chance. Ran into our buddy

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Vic up the stairs and he obviously
snitched me off. Is you know as

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soon as I got there that the
Arizone started losing. I got a texture

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him. You were not even in
the door. And all I know is

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I went to three other games this
year and they won all three, and

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even one of them when they were
down a couple of runs in extra innings

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that came back away. They were
not as important as last night. They

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were not. They were not.
They got two more shots at this.

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Just got to win one. Okay, so win one. So we've taken

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away at least maybe a breaking news
thing from you, but it needed to

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be said, yeah when we need
to cover that. Yeah, okay,

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So Friday we'll see if we can
get through this. So okay, I'm

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sure Juan has the controls ready for
us. I'm ready to go. I

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have a question for you. Oh
go. Have you ever been arrested on

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the way to a round of golf? I've never been arrested, Thank god.

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I was thinking about that as we
were talking, because we talked about

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this to this. Yeah, yeah, you have, but I wasn't arrested.

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I was just in I was in
handcuffs once, so that's different.

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Yeah, I was never as as
as as a as uh Danny Ocean said

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at the beginning of of Ocean's eleven, I was never really I was never

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charged. So in your points thing
where you have to get points for handcuffs

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so that you didn't get arrested,
right, I haven't been arrested, but

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a lot of times they asked me
if you've ever have you ever been handcuffed?

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And it doesn't it doesn't. It
doesn't differentiate between hand being handcuffed,

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you know, by a cop,
you know, being handcuffed by your girlfriend

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or your wife. Yeah, just
have you ever been handcuffed? We didn't

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have a uh A check, what
do you close? We didn't have a

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clearance check people here at Fox.
No, No, they no, they

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did not do a background check.
Well I don't have a record. I

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don't have a record. You're making
it public. I I never even went

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to juvenile court for anything, not
even because they didn't find out. Your

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dad did? That was your juvenile
You know, if my dad had ever

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found out that I had been handcuffed, he would have taken me to jail

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and and shoved me in the door
and said to keep it. Always told

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us, did your dad did tell
you this? If you ever get arrested,

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no plan on, plan on spending
the night in jail because I'm not

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coming out. I'm not coming to
get you until you've at least spent the

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night. I've never done stuff like
that. Did say that name? We

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were warned. We talked about food, but what's there because in the army

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they'll make you eat whatever, you
whatever. Yeah, but yeah, we

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were all told that. You know, you ever get arrested, you're staying

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the night. Okay, So go
ahead and tell the story. So this

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morning situation with a Scottie Scheffler,
the world's number one golfer at the golf

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course at Valhalla. It's in Louisville, Kentucky. He's arriving at the golf

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course. There's a wreck right near
the entrance, and unfortunately somebody got killed.

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There's a fatality. I think somebody
got hit by a car. Yeah,

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so there's a fatality. So the
cops are directing traffic around, trying

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to get you know, people around
and whatnot. And scheffer comes driving up

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and he needs to get into the
golf course obviously, so he was trying

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to work his way through. The
cops are trying to direct him to go

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somewhere else he wanted to go where
he wanted to go. There was a

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confrontation of some sort, as he
said in his press conference, a lot

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of chaos. A cop ended up, you know, grabbing onto his car.

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Scheffler kept driving and apparently dragged this
officer and he eventually got stopped and

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they arrested him. He was was
taking literally handcuffed and taking to jail.

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There's video of him being handcuffed in
the whole bit and put in the back

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of a car. He's charged with
a felony along with a couple of other

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misdemeanors. So he's got like three
or four criminal charges against him. Goes

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to the jail. I mean through
the whole deal. I mean, there's

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his his his booking shot, his
mug shot, he's in the orange jumpsuit,

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the whole bit. He talked in
his press conference about the fact that

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he's sitting there in the booking room
and the ESPN is on television, and

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he is seeing himself on television being
arrested, and you know, the words

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getting out about him. He eventually
got released and he made his tea time.

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So did he's finished? Yes?
What did he score five under?

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Party? Well, he's yeah,
he'shot, five undred party Lincoln exactly exactly.

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You know, if somebody made the
point that if you can get arrested,

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booked, taken to jail, spend
the morning in jail, get back

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to the golf course, uh an
hour before your tea time, and still

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shoot five under that golf course is
just way too easy, too easier.

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It's what's there's a phrase in horse
racing, a bad day the good the

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track is better than a good day
of the dolphine. Exactly. You know,

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a lot of a lot. First
of all, it's been it's been

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the subject of a lot of funny
stuff on where did you want to go.

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I'm not sure where to go with
this other than there wasn't a gender

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here. Well no, no,
I mean it's not. It's the big

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news. That's the biggest news in
sports. But you wanted to kind of

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no. Well, I mean,
you know, we were talking off air,

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and I'm just saying that there are
certain, let's just say, certain

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types of people who, if they
had done the same thing, might have

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been in a lot bigger trouble.
The scottis Cheffer got it. I don't

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know when I saw this this morning. I'm thinking circumstances of events. It

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was early in the morning, right, uh, and dark in front of

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a country in front of a country
club. He was in a marked PGA

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car. That's what I was talking
to that. I don't he was in

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the car that was And not that
they need to know who he is,

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not that they didn't know who he
is, because I'm not an advocate for

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that. Uh, there're kind of
been yeah, yeah, you know right,

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And that's why I'm not gonna say
what time and circumstances will you get

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in trouble? I doubt it's well, look, I mean he'll get you

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know, he'll probably get a ticket
right, he'll get a misdemeanor or something

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like that. He's not gonna get
a you know, one of the charges

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that one of the charges is a
felony. He was a cop. He's

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not gonna get a felony out of
this. He'll probably get a misdemeanor.

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He'll have a record of that,
he'll pay a fine. The cop may

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sue him, who knows. I
don't know if they're allowed to. I

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don't know. I don't know if
they're allowed to or not. It's part

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of their job, right that they're
dealing with this stuff. I don't think.

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Yeah, I mean, you don't
get to see a guy that shoots

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you, right, but who knows? You know, and and you know,

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you or I or anybody else in
that situation where you know you're gonna

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go through the same thing. Looks
he's not a horrible guy, right,

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you know, they don't want to
pin a felony on him, but they're

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also gonna want a record of this. So he'll get a misdemeanor or something

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like that, failure to comply whatever
it is, right, and and he'll

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he'll maybe go do you know,
he'll pick up some trash on the freeway,

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one day or something like that,
and and it'll all be over.

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Do you remember, well, we
we've dealt with these solid lives. I

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remember something with uh. I don't
even bring it up to minor. It

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just happens. It just stuff like
this happens, unfortunate. But he it

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was a good day at the the
office for him. Yeah. Well again,

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you know, people, he's gonna
be first, He's gonna be the

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butt of jokes for a long time. There's some funny stuff there. There

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was somebody put they said, picture
of the the arresting a picture of the

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officer who arrested Scotti Scheffler, and
it was a you know, ah,

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you know, like a police officer
portrait right in front of the flag with

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the uniform on, but it had
Rory mcroy's head. And then there was

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another the one that I was laughing
at. A couple of minutes ago.

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Somebody posted, I'm gonna say there's
a picture of Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman

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in Shushank Redemption, you know,
sitting next to each other. And some

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guy said, I'm gonna I'm gonna
tell my son this is Tiger Woods and

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Scottie Scheffler. Stuff like that uh, you know, just just funny,

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just you know, goofy stuff like
that. You know, and I watched

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a good chunk of his press conference. Look, he's he's not happy it

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happened, he's embarrassed, he's you
know, he feels bad that he did

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this. He's pointing out, Look, whatever happened to me. Somebody died

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there. So let's remember that.
You know, he said that he's handling

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it about as well as you can. He talked about it. Now,

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he didn't talk specifically about this is
what I did. He didn't do any

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of that, but he talked about
the experience of being taken to jail,

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being in a jail cell, watching
himself on TV while he's in an orange

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jumpsuit, the whole bit. You
know. He was very apologetic, and

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you know he's gonna take he's gonna
catch some crap. You know. Locker

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rooms for athletes are places where you
do stuff like this. You pay a

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price for it a long time,
especially among this group of gentlemen's group right

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right, talking crap to each other
or whatever. Yeah, so it'll be

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it was weird. I saw the
same thing you did this morning. I

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see that couldn't be right the headline. You have to click from the story

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and see that it was right.
She's going, no he got arrested.

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I said, no, he didn't
stand. You just hit the ball right

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now. No he got arrested.
Yeah, yeah, I had got to

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go do it. Look at it
for myself. But you know, an

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unfortunate incident. I'm not gonna say, you know, stuff happens, but

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it's you know, stuff happens,
and uh, he you know, he

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got he got himself in a bad
in a bad way, you know,

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all the all the like ESPN's and
they're calling it a big misunderstanding. Well,

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it's hard to misunderstand when the cops
tell you don't go there? You

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ever have you ever? Have you
guys ever done that? Because I know

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the cop you know, when your
are directing traffic and stuff like that,

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and and they tell you don't go
until you go, And have you every

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guys ever been in trouble like that? No? No, you know,

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because if they say, look,
I've had two brothers were cops. Right.

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If you know, if I ever
did anything that embarrassed the hell,

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they would shoot me. Okay,
so you know I never did anything like

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that, but you know I've did. I've always you did it before they

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became cops. No, well a
couple were cops. Well here's the deal.

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As soon as on that situation I
told you about the situation. I

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we were messing around with the guy's
car and we're playing a prank in the

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cops sauce. And as soon as
the cops came after us, we stopped.

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I didn't you know, didn't even
think about running ornything. We just

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stopped. You know, we were
we were in my car. We stopped.

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The cops shining lights on. He
told us to get out of the

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car. We got out of the
car, and you know, I did

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exactly what the cops told me to
do. And anytime, you know,

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in a situation like that, that's
if you do that, you're usually usually

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okay. Yeah, usually okay,
not always, because we've seen situations where

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you beat your complying with everything that
they're telling you to do, and bad

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things happen to you. But usually
if a cop says, don't do that,

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and if you don't do it,
you're gonna be okay, right,

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you know, one you want to
make this public with your family, You're

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you're a good kid. Yeah,
you're acquired. Boy, I'm gonna keep

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that as my record. I've never
I don't want to ever put myself any

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close to that type of situation.
So that's what I try to day in

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day out. Yeah, it's it's
we just got to shuck shank, Steve.

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The only time I saw the inside
of a jail was to do a

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story. So yeah, never had
to go to jail for anything. Okay,

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So he says, today maybe seventeenth
May seventeenth eighteenth, Okay, I

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promise, Okay, So today's show, Hey, yes, excuse me,

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a little different, Yeah, but
the same. A d stunt shaver who's

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our well, are proud, we're
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because she's she's got a really nice
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great, great tip, hopefully a
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on and it's it's kind of,
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the proud dad Steve, you know, when she's coming on. So we'll

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have d coming on at three point
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on some of this stuff going on. Jack Jack Jake Fisher, Yeah for

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Arizon Football said, a lot of
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whatever. So okay, why don't
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at the one minute mark anyway,
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This is I on the Ball with Steve

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Rivera and Jay Gatzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to

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joining the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's

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Jacobsauce down the phone. We have
the stent shaver from FanDuel TV. I

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have a hard time seeing Fandel TV, given I've known it as TVG for

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all these years. How are you
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Fine? Uh? Your guy Jay
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your help tomorrow. I'm preaching to
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needed many more ways than one.
Well, that's why you guys have me

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here. I'm here to help.
Okay. So how's life out there in

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La with the with the track?
That's the track. Life is good.

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It's been kind of warm up the
track. It looks like we're going to

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have a cooler week up at Stanta
Needa this week, so we're not going

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to be letting our brains out.
As far as Pimlical, where the Preakness

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is going to be. It looks
dry today, but it sounds like there's

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going to be quite a bit of
weather moving it overnight, is it?

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Uh? I mean, it's always
a fact factory when you get muddy and

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stuff like that. But are there
certain types of horses, specific types of

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horses that might race better than the
mud versus the others or is it the

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same for everybody? It kind of
depends. So definitely when looking at a

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race and all track is listed as
muddy or sloppy, there are certain fire

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lines that do like running in the
mud better than others. A fire being

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gun Runner, Spice down toiling Candy. Those fires all loved running in their

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mud, and their progeny as well
seem to also like running in the mud

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and slop. So those are horses
that you can absolutely look too. Unfortunately,

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we don't really have those runners in
this race and the Preakness tomorrow,

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which is the second leg of the
Triple Crown, But there are horses in

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that race that have shown that either
they like running in the slop or they

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don't mind the kick back in their
face, and because it feels different under

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their feet running on a dry surface
versus running on a wet surface, it

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feels slippery to them. No.
In fact, Jay, some of the

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factors of running the front in front, because you don't want the mud in

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your horses don't like that, So
if you have a front runner, I

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think Imagination is one of those guys, right. Imagination is definitely a horse

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that is untested when he's not on
the lead, and he's unt is on

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a money or sloppy track. So
I do have my reservations about him tomorrow.

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He's trying a different level of horses
than he has raced against in the

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past. He's been running against a
lot of his stablemates, which he hasn't

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run poorly against. In his second
place in the Santanita Derby to Stronghold,

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whose Stronghold went on to run the
seventh, which was a pretty good seventh

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in the Kentucky Derby. He came
out of a really good race in there,

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and I think Strongholds race helps Stronghold's
race in the Kentucky Derby helped support

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that San Anita Derby run that Imagination
had. But the horse has never finished

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worse than second, So I don't
think that he's a bad bet. I

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just think he's very untested traveling outside
of California, running on a different surface

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than he's not used to. But
he does get Frankie to Toria board and

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that's a huge bonus in my opinion. All right, all right, let's

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start at the top with Mystic Dan. You know, not a lot of

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buzz about this horse. Kind of
came out of nowhere last in the Derby,

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you know, but they always tend
to pick the derby winner as a

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favorite. I don't know if he's
going to be the favorite, but as

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a favorite, what are your thoughts
on Mystic Dan, whether or not this

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horse can pull off a second race. So with the scratch of Mook,

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who was Baffert's number one runner in
there, Moose was originally the eight to

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five morning line. Once he scratched
due to a fever. The morningline maker

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actually redid the morning line for the
Preakness race and Missy Dan was listed as

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the eight to five favorite. So
he's the current favorite. I suspect you

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will go off as a favorite at
race time. Eight to five is a

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little low I think for him,
given that he was eighteen to one on

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race day, right, So it's
it's definitely not the value that you got

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for him in the Kentucky Derby,
but he was a horse that again he

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likes running in the slop. He
showed that in the grade theory Southwest at

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Oakland Park back into February when he
won by eight legs like that, off

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the pace, just got an absolutely
great trip and just flowed home to the

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slop and didn't look back against anyone. So I think with the off track,

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he's definitely wanted to consider her all
right, and he had a perfect

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grade. He had a perfect ride
from the inside all the way through.

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That's probably gonna not going to be
the case this time. Well you have

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to you never know until you know
right this is this is true. Brian

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Hernandez got him a absolutely perfect trip
riding the rail all the way around in

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the Kentucky Derby. Now that he's
going to be in the four hole rather

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than the three hole, you know, I don't think that makes a huge

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difference. With the field is also
half the size. We're now looking at

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an eight horse field instead of a
twenty horse field, so that does change

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some things. Then the pace I
think has changed dramatically with the scratch of

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move because you don't have that natural
speed from the middle hole in the gate

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to be able to just set a
blistering pace for him to kind of sit

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off of interesting. So all right, so after missed again, where do

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we go? Well, this is
where it gets interesting, because if you

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want a horse that's also proven in
the slot, the next place to look

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is the three CA freedom. His
current morning line is seven to two.

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I suspect he'll stay right around there. But he won the Louisiana Derby,

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which was run at a mile in
three sixteen, so he's proven at the

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distance, not just over the distance, but at the distance. He ran

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a really good fourth place effort in
the Kentucky Derby. He was one of

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my Kentucky Derby picks if he remember
Steve. Yeah, And he's one that

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will come running late. So I
suspect that once they break away from the

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gate, he will be in like
the third flight of horses. He's gonna

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sit off the pace. He may
sit a little closer if they're going a

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little slow, but he's definitely one
that'll have a late kick coming down the

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stretch. Now we could have a
cavalry charge coming down the stretch depending on

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how fast that pace is. If
it's a blistering pace and there's a pace

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melt down because two horses decide to
go out and run themselves into the ground.

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You're going to see a couple of
horses coming late, and this one's

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going to come with a really big
run. He also gets slazy and fraudibourg,

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which is a really big point to
think about in my mind. This

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jockey is aggressive. He's been on
him for his last two races. He

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was on him in the Louisiana Derby
onety one, he was on him in

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the Tucky Derby, and of course
again got a pretty good trip. He

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just came from even further back than
what missed it Dan did. All right,

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So is there is there any particular
type of race you're expecting to see,

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you know, a lot of speed, not a lot of speed?

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Uh, you know and put in
you know the different types of races.

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You know who do those those favors? Can Can you say that with with

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with any of these horses? Yeah, So a pace scenario that I see

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happening pretty likely his imagination is going
to go to the front. He's on

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the outside, he doesn't have a
lot of options. He gets franky Detoria

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board an imagination in this race was
considered the quote unquote other Bafford horse.

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He was considered the number two Bafford
horse of the two that were entered.

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Now again, he put out a
really good race in the sant Anita Derby.

406
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.640
He's coming in fresh off a month's
layoff. He's put in two bullet

407
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.880
works. He traveled well. He
did not get stick on like his stablemate

408
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.480
Moose. Bob Baffort put out a
quote today saying, I don't know what

409
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.240
he'll do if he gets loose on
the front end. He's not normally one

410
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.480
that goes out to the front by
himself. He goes with someone and he

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00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.640
stays with them the entire way around, he said. Bob Baffert said,

412
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.359
it's up to Frankie FRANKYTTRRI, who's
his jockey. He's kind of on his

413
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.559
own on this one because we don't
really know what he's going to do if

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00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.960
he were to get loose on the
front. Now, this horse doesn't like

415
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.440
kickback in his face, which we
don't know if he does, because he's

416
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:23.079
always been on the front and he's
never run on a sloppy track. The

417
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.720
front, going right out to the
lead is probably going to be the best

418
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.839
place for him, so he doesn't
ever get any kickback. Now, the

419
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.839
horse that I see going with him
is the sixth. He's the gray.

420
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.920
It's one of two runners in here
for the coach Dwayne Lucas. He's coming

421
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.359
off of winning the Pat Day Mile
that was also run on Derby Day,

422
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.640
so he's also coming off as two
week layoff, just like some of the

423
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.799
other horses in here that ran in
the Derby. He's the gray. I

424
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:55.160
don't see making it all the way
around for the mile in three sixteenths.

425
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.759
I just don't think that distance is
for him, but I do see him

426
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:03.319
going out early and pressing that pace
a little bit. In that second flight

427
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.519
of horses, I can see just
Steele, the seven who's the second runner

428
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.920
for de Wayne Lucas, as well
as mister Dan being in that flight of

429
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.519
horses, and the eight who we
haven't talked about. Tuscan Gold, who's

430
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.640
interesting because he comes in with the
least amount of races under his belt.

431
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.519
This will only be his fourth start. His last start was in the Louisiana

432
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.480
Derby, which was a mile in
three fifteenth so that's the same race that

433
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:29.799
Catching Freedom won. He ran third
that day. He went from breaking his

434
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.799
maiden in January to running in a
Grade one in a Grade two race,

435
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.119
so that's a really big jump,
and I think it shows his professionalism that

436
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.000
he went from a maiden race where
he got his first win to going up

437
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.799
against winners in a really good race
and running a really valiant third. So

438
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.920
Chad Brown has said earlier about his
works this week that he's working better than

439
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.759
he has before his last race.
He's in top form, so I think

440
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.319
this horse would also be making a
really big run. He also was supposed

441
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.240
to run in a different race.
It took him off that race to get

442
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:06.279
into this race correct, which is
a big deal. It is I mean,

443
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.519
there's more perse money here and this
is a different group of horses than

444
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.480
he would have faced in the other
race. But it sounds like this horse

445
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.519
is up for the challenge. Again, we don't really know what he's gonna

446
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:21.480
do on an off track, However, he's fired Megladoro is known to have

447
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:26.920
horses like the offgoing, so I
suspect he will be okay with a muddy

448
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:32.319
track. Oh who do you like? Who do I like? You know?

449
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.200
I would love to see Missing Dan
get the second leg of the Triple

450
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:41.000
Crown and work towards winning the Triple
Crown series, But I don't think he's

451
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.480
the most likely winner in here.
I think there are faster horses. I

452
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.920
think there are horses that are more
likely to close. After watching the races

453
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.680
today, the trips that are winning, our trips that are sitting just off

454
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.079
the pace and they're letting their just
stalking the leaders before they go run them

455
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.759
down. But I really think casting
freedom is would the horse to look at

456
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.119
him here at a seven to two
morning line. Brad Hawks doesn't often run

457
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.799
horses back on a two week layoff. He's more likely to wait and put

458
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.440
them in another race and wait on
him. But this horse, after watching

459
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.000
him gallop in the morning, he
is on the bit and pulling. He

460
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.240
looks like he's pulling the arms out
off of his exercise rider, like he

461
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.720
looks like he's breathing fire in the
morning. He's very fresh, coming off

462
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.319
that, coming off that fourth place
finish in the derby, and so I

463
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.319
think there's room for him to improve. Now. The thing with Mystic Dan

464
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.799
is Kenny McPeak has said right along
that he cares about the horse and his

465
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.359
well being. He wasn't going to
put him here if he wasn't ready.

466
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.880
So the fact that Mystic Dan has
had his head buried in his food.

467
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.839
Bull he's eating better now than he
was before the derby. I think is

468
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.039
also a really good sign because food
seems to be his love language. Kenny

469
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.640
McPeak has been very honest that you
know, he's an old soul, is

470
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.079
very easy to read him what he
wants to do, what he doesn't want

471
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.720
to do. And he's only wanted
to eat and wanted to train, and

472
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:59.559
he's trained him really great right now
and so and he's a very versatile horse.

473
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.960
So it doesn't sound like he can
not have a good trip, if

474
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.920
that makes sense. Okay, all
right, But we had a couple of

475
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.960
other things to talk about. Jay
had a question to me yesterday. I

476
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.880
answered him about Bob Baffort, and
I said, you might be able to

477
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.319
answer better than me because you're closer
to the situation. He's in Pimlico today

478
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.920
or this week. Go ahead and
ask her the questions you asked me about

479
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:25.759
Bob. Whether he'd get out of
this? Yeah, I mean, is

480
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.720
he is he kind of getting sick
of this? Is he? Or is

481
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.240
he just kind of like just rolling
with it? And will he, you

482
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:34.880
know, keep just doing what he's
doing well? Will follow him? Yeah?

483
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.440
And is this going to be like
when people think of Bob Bafford down

484
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.799
the road, the issues that he's
had is that I don't want to say

485
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.400
his legacy, but with that kind
of hang over him. I mean,

486
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.319
the legacy that I've always seen of
Bob Baffort is American pharaoh justify two triple

487
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.480
Crown winners within a couple of years
of each other. That's the legacy that

488
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.119
I look at. I personally had
a chance to interview him and talk to

489
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.519
him, and you know, he
generally cares about his horses. It's unfortunate

490
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:06.759
the situation that he's in with the
Churchill Track, specifically in Kentucky. He's

491
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.039
running his horse where his horses where
he can, where they fit, where

492
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.440
he's able to run them. You
know, it's unfortunate of the situation that

493
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.039
it is. It's been three years, but it doesn't sound like the suspension

494
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.880
is going to end anytime soon.
But he's got some of the best horses

495
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.799
in the country, and I've said, right along with the best horses should

496
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.759
have an opportunity to run where they
fit. And given that you've been in

497
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.920
southern California at least a year almost
two now or two now, I think

498
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.640
that the tracks in southern California treat
him very well. You know, he

499
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.839
is the king, same as they
do with Pimlical, because he's the king

500
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.119
there as well. You know,
he's said right along that he loves going

501
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.079
to the Breakness. He loves going
to Maryland. Him and d Wayne Lucas

502
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:54.200
were caught this morning casting up in
the stakes barner earlier, just tit chatting.

503
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.400
They both really enjoyed Maryland and the
laid back set that it is.

504
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.160
You know, it's a fun Pinmnical
is a fun place to be for the

505
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:07.519
Preakness. It's it's laid back and
everybody is very kind and we are there

506
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.160
to have a good time. So
I think he's really enjoying being there for

507
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.279
the Preakness and having another runner.
Whether he takes back to back Freaknesses,

508
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:16.599
I don't know. If he had
National Treasure last year, who went on

509
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.079
to win the Pegasus World Cup and
is just an absolute amazing horse. I've

510
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.640
had a chance to actually meet him, So it's not to say that imagination

511
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:29.720
isn't good enough. It's just I
think the conditions could be against him.

512
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.279
But I think Bob Baffert's got a
couple other runners going tomorrow as well.

513
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:40.400
So he's enjoying Maryland right now,
and definitely California racing. He does dominate

514
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.759
in California quite a bit. He
the stakes races. His horses are just

515
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.400
sometimes heads and heals better than everybody
else. Right. I think he has

516
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:53.519
a few going tomorrow where you're a
lot of maid maiden horses. I have

517
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.319
not really looked at the Santa Nina
card tomorrow, and I have been pretty

518
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.079
focused on Solacovia Threek. But you're
so in California now right. I am

519
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.200
currently in southern California right now.
Yeah, okay, you're having fun.

520
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.039
D You sound like you're having fun. I am enjoying myself. Yeah,

521
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.519
okay, let's call it job.
It is worked, but it's not really

522
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.559
work if you enjoy it. So
it's okay. Yes. My only demise

523
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.719
is I have Jay with me.
He stuck with me. D Yes,

524
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:29.119
it's okay. I remember this.
Well, thank you, all right,

525
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:30.639
Date, thanks a bunch, man, appreciate it. You will say,

526
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:37.840
hold dog if you're listening, Hello, all right, thank you. All

527
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:39.519
right, that was a decent Shaver
said, she's fine. Yeah, she's

528
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.840
fine, all right, man,
I got my I got my winner right

529
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.880
there, catching Freedom number three.
That was going to be my horse.

530
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.480
Let's go get it. That was
well, No, I'm not. Now

531
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.559
it's got it. He's got to
withstand the kiss of death. No,

532
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.920
I got to figure out other ways
to go. All right, let's take

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, Daughter, Day,

565
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Juan, and today for left fifteen
more minutes for this first hour. If

566
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you want to call us five two
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568
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a call, yep, give Jay
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569
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delay. They were supposed to start
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It started three fifty five, so
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know, provide periodic updates of that.

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And then baseball plays at six o'clock
tonight, six oh five, trying to

573
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.119
bounce back from the beating they took
last night, and that's really what it

574
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.760
was. They just got beat up. It was Oregon State's picture of the

575
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.719
guy that used to be here was
really good. You know, he was

576
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.280
good. Former Pima guy too,
always it Pima. I didn't I didn't

577
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.320
know that. I don't remember that. But you know, ninety two they

578
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.760
got beat last night and it wasn't
even that close. It was. It

579
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.199
was uh yeah, I mean both
teams got off to a good stripe,

580
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.360
but was top of the third.
Oregon they put up a five run inning

581
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.280
and then Arizona got one back.
But we're never really got back in the

582
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.159
game. We're gonna put up,
you know, enough enough runs to just

583
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.159
kind of walk away with that.
So Arizona let that one go and and

584
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.320
towards the end of the game,
you know, Chip was just using getting

585
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.079
guys some work to make sure he's
got the right guys ready for tonight,

586
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.360
you know, to take the shots
tonight, Clark candyat it will be on

587
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.280
the hill and we'll see would so
if they let's say they get swept,

588
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.639
Oregon State wins it. Yeah,
Okay, where are they at now?

589
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.440
Right now? They're up one?
What do you mean, game boys,

590
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.800
Arizona's Arizona is half a game up, right, so they win, they'll

591
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.679
be up a game and a half
with only one left. That's why if

592
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.880
there was one they could tie.
Right, No, they can't tie.

593
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.800
Oregon State has one less game because
they had a game ragned out that they

594
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.760
did make up. So so that's
why there's that one and a half.

595
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.480
So Arizona's half a game up in
the standings. They win tonight, there'll

596
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:08.199
be a game in half up and
there'll only be one game left to play.

597
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.239
So that's why they would plinch.
So they need to they need to

598
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.400
just win one of the two games. Okay, sounds good, yep,

599
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.360
Okay, good to talk to d
See what's going on tomorrow with the Races,

600
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.639
anything else? We have breaking news
with Juan here. Yeah, back

601
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.599
back back to baseball. So they're
they're they're struggling with injuries. They had

602
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.079
another another one of their outfielders got
hit by a pitch on the hand and

603
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.480
he had to come out of the
game. So they really they had to

604
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.519
shuffle the the fielding around and they
that basically their short stop had to go

605
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.119
play outfield last night. Uh so
we'll we'll see, you know, injury,

606
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.440
why injury wise. What kind of
problems are gonna have with that?

607
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:52.400
Because I think it was in the
in the Utah series, the regular left

608
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.519
fielder he hit the wall on a
on a trying to make a catch and

609
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.239
hurt his shoulder. So you know
they're they're at least last night Chip was

610
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.159
having to maneuver some guys around.
We'll see what they come up with with

611
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.599
a lineup for tonight. Okay,
Yeah, that's crucial this time of year

612
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.159
when they need the people. Hey, you can't be running out of players.

613
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:14.760
Yeah did you see? Oh did
you you you saw Chip? I

614
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.400
saw? Michael Levitt tweeted about the
picture from last night that he kind of

615
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.000
had a sense that he was gonna
leave. Yeah, just was was not

616
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.079
told until the last minute, right
right, Yeah, So yeah, we

617
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.320
were, you know, we were
talking about that last night, and you

618
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.199
know, I mean he got Look, he got the better of him.

619
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.000
He came back against his old team, got the better of him. Last

620
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.440
night. He looked really good.
I mean he was I don't know if

621
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.480
you'd say he was dominating, but
he was very effective. He you know,

622
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.719
the Arizona just wasn't getting guys on
base, and and they really never

623
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.639
really threatened. They didn't have it
anywhere. They had the bases loaded and

624
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.119
something big goulda happened or anything like
that. It just just kind of was

625
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.639
very steady, did you say it
for the whole thing. We left in

626
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:57.639
the eighth inning when they scored those
next rumor second, you know there,

627
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.119
you know, they've only got two
at bats to you know, to catch

628
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.000
a night. You know, it
was nine to one. We thought,

629
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:09.440
uh, and there again Arizona just
wasn't. They just weren't doing anything.

630
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:13.400
They didn't have a lot of buzz, and so we hit the road.

631
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.239
Man. It was you know,
if you're going tonight, get there early,

632
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.719
because we I'd say, you know, I had somewhere I had to

633
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.639
be, So I didn't get near
the ballpark till about six o'clock, and

634
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.079
we parked basically over on twenty second
Street. You know, we were in

635
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.320
Reed Park, but all the way
down in those parking lots, you know,

636
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.519
on the other side of the zoo. So that's where people were parking

637
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:37.800
by the time we got there.
So if you planned to be there,

638
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:43.599
be there early enough to get one
of those parking There's a nicety parking lot

639
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.000
on the out over the left field
fence that wasn't there for the zoo.

640
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.239
But so there's a lot more parking, but we still had to park out

641
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.679
in the boonies last night. Good
crowd, it was pretty good. I

642
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.039
think I got announced at forty six
hundred, and I would have guessed that

643
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.599
it was more than that because I
know the games that I went to all

644
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.760
had four thousand, and it looked
like there were a lot more people there

645
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.039
last night than they were the games
that I went to. So but it

646
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.320
was a pretty good crowd. The
concession lines were long, so uh,

647
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.719
you know again, get there early, get your food, go, get

648
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.000
your seat, and uh and enjoy
the game. Good call. All right,

649
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.199
let's take this call. Hi,
you're on the air and I on

650
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.800
the ball. Hey Jay, Hey
Steve, Happy birthday, Steve, related

651
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.920
thank you, thank you very much. What's up done? This is oh

652
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.599
not much? I thought the crowd
was. It seemed like it was closer

653
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.199
than five thousand. I thought you
too, last night. I thought it

654
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:45.000
was over five I did. Yeah, yeah, I was telling I was

655
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.920
telling my son about the caller last
week. I was asking about how can

656
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.920
we get more people out to the
ballpark, and he's all like, what

657
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:57.320
does that dude want exactly exactly that? You know, Look, you know,

658
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.800
four to five thousand people for a
college baseball game is pretty damn good.

659
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:07.119
Yeah, yeah, And uh,
I thought what I thought was strange

660
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:14.280
was to move after Corona came out
with an injured hand. Was Mason White

661
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.199
going to center field? I thought
that, I go, why would you

662
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.760
move your center fielder. I would
have thought, Okay, if if White's

663
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:25.239
got to go to outfield, why
didn't he go to right? But I

664
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.920
don't practice with those guys. Ye
don't know what they can do. There's

665
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.639
a really well that must mean that
Mason White is pretty damn good because right

666
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.039
growing up, right wasn't our best
player in little league or high school whatever,

667
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.559
always the shortstop, and he could
play like every position, including pitcher

668
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.760
and catcher. So maybe have something
to do with that. And some of

669
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:49.320
them did, Yeah they did.
You were short stuff, weren't you?

670
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.599
Some of them did, Sam.
Yeah. See, that's that's why Steve

671
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:00.159
was being quiet right there. Okay, but you think don taking taking stuff

672
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.960
away from the center fielder. Hey, they can bounce back tonight, don't

673
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.440
you think? I think so?
I think I think Candy candy has a

674
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:17.800
sense fel you can down like uh, Jackson Kent the last couple of trips

675
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.920
out, he's been a little bit. You know, things have happened with

676
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:27.199
him. Yeah, and candy Otty
come in and he just when it's his

677
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.039
turn, it's just like, hey, settled in and let's go. He's

678
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:36.519
going to handle that side and uh
can last night just had that bad inning.

679
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.199
Yeah, man was all with two
outs, five runs with two outs.

680
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.280
That was that was awful? Did
you think it was two outs with

681
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:50.000
nobody on? Like what? So? Don did you listen to mister candy

682
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.800
Otti yesterday? I did hear a
lot of that, and I did hear.

683
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.920
I thought it was I thought it
was a good interview. I think

684
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.239
I like, uh the stories that
he told and everything else. And uh,

685
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:12.679
man seventeen years in the majors,
right, Holy moly. Right,

686
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.239
you could tell that he had to
come up with that pitch, you know,

687
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.559
the the the knuckleball to kind of
you know, just prolong his career.

688
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.199
Right, that's the prolonged career.
And you know, when you're a

689
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.639
finesque guy, you can do that. Now when you're the overpowering guy,

690
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.199
because you got your you're limited in
terms of years, but your shoulders done

691
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.159
too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I like Lark

692
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:39.440
and yet I think he'll you know, he's he seems very I know he's

693
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.599
tough, right. He just didn't
take any crap from anybody. He just

694
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.239
goes up there and throws and you
know he's just gonna beat you. He's

695
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.000
mentally tough. That and then it's
it's like in the in the interview yesterday,

696
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.920
it's like he's seen it all before. He's not going to get shook.

697
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.599
You know, he could he could
get he could get touched for a

698
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.519
couple of runs in the first and
then come back and shut him down the

699
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.480
rest of the way. He's going
to forget about that last inning and pitch

700
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.079
this inning. Yeah, he's I
think he's real. He's real tough and

701
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:14.199
real solid that way. I like
him. I like him a lot.

702
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.920
You're going tonight. I'm not going
tonight. I let I left at the

703
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.159
end of seven last night, and
uh, you know, if we have

704
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:29.280
to, we'll go SAT tomorrow.
Probably, Okay, I don't think we're

705
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.800
gonna have to. I I wore
my replic Championship ring last night, and

706
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:43.800
that might have been the ko D
last night. Scotty Scottie Scheffler was acting

707
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:49.360
like a jerk. He's in where
he's at. He was it was,

708
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.199
he was, I mean, he
goes, I got to get to the

709
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.360
golf course. It's the most important
thing in the whole wide world. It's

710
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.719
it's it's like the dumb story about
Bill Frieder going. There was that one

711
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.679
story. I don't I don't remember
what book it was in, I said,

712
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.480
but it was Bill Frieder's at the
golf course and there they've got him

713
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:13.159
in lines waiting to tee off,
and he just grabbed his grabbed his car

714
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.199
and started driving around the course and
finding a hole to start on. Come

715
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:19.119
on, dude, I didn't see
that. I didn't hear that. I

716
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.840
remember that. But yeah, you
know, it's very simple. That whole

717
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.960
thing could have been avoided by him. By him, there was a there

718
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.920
was an accident where somebody died and
there was police on site. There had

719
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.239
to have been red and blue lights
flashing. He could he could say it

720
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.320
was dark and all that malarchy,
But when you see red and blue lights,

721
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:44.719
you slowed down and wait, you're
not hoopping curves and trying to get

722
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.679
to where you're going right, right, right? Unless you got a unless

723
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.639
you got a nine and a half
months pregnant wife in the car with you

724
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.519
and you're going, dude, I
need to get her someplace. Thank you,

725
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.159
Amy, I appreciate it. Don
maybe see it the ball part.

726
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.599
I wanted to talk real quick about
the topic you brought up. I think

727
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.800
yesterday or the day before the Kanis
City chief guy. Oh yeah, it's

728
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.679
still more still talk about man polarizing. Let me ask you a quick question.

729
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.360
If you're the guy that's going to
speak at one of these things,

730
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.639
what are you talking about? Not
talking about that? That's not my answer.

731
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.920
That's not the answer. What are
you talking about? If I'm commit

732
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.320
at a commencement you're the guy,
you know, I might talk about my

733
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.400
journey a little bit and try to
I'll try to. I guess I would

734
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:37.199
try to relate my experience to what
I'm thinking. You're you're looking, you

735
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.119
know where you're going? Right?
This is what I did, This is

736
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.880
how I got to where I am, and this is how it can work

737
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.639
for you. Right. And I've
actually given a couple of talks like that

738
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.199
at high schools and stuff. You
know, over time that Okay, this

739
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.039
is how I got here, you
asked me. Yeah, yeah, I

740
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.800
did speak at a high school commencement
once you know, they they and I've

741
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.440
just said, you know, I
think if I coming no one else was

742
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.599
available, I must not have been
you know, I you know, I

743
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:10.119
think my my uh my, My
message was, you know, don't automatically

744
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.800
assume that you can't do something mm
hmmm right, just because of who you

745
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.000
are or where you come from.
If you think you can do something,

746
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.079
then do it. Take your shot. Yeah, and that's good advice.

747
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.360
Yeah, that's good advice. You
might have to take that same advice I

748
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.559
know, just a life. Yeah, my, My whole thing would be,

749
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.320
uh, don't tell let people tell
you. No, you don't tell,

750
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:36.480
you know, and if you don't
believe in yourself, who is going

751
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:37.960
to believe in yourself? Perfect?
You know, I mean that that that

752
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.719
is that is perfect. I mean, you know we've all got stories.

753
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.719
Right. The one thing that I
do really harp on it and I tell

754
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.559
these kids too, uh, and
it involves us. If you're not taking

755
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.320
control of your life in the real
world, someone else is gonna do it

756
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.400
for you, and then you're gonna
be held. They're gonna tell you what

757
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.239
to do. I mean, you
and I are in a situation now at

758
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.119
the older age where we're called or
an old shot, which is fantastic.

759
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.079
I don't know, you know,
we've I've never been happy because kind of

760
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.760
my boss's named Steve right, and
we can yeah, answer to me.

761
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.360
Yeah, no, Steve. I
mean, you know, look, I

762
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:15.119
mean times have changed, you know, over fifteen years ago, six years

763
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:16.960
or whatever. But you know,
there's two stories out from my family about

764
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.920
that. My brother Rick became a
lawyer, very successful lawyer, you know,

765
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.880
prominent guy in Tucson. And when
he went to his college counselor at

766
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.440
Sunnyside and said, you know,
I want to go to college, and

767
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:31.880
the guy said, no, you
should just go work at the mine,

768
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:36.719
you know. And he was told
that you're you're probably better off going to

769
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:37.800
work at the mind. You'll never
make it to college, you know.

770
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.079
And I was, you know,
when I had a similar story. I

771
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.079
went into my college counselors my senior
year in high school. In high school,

772
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.159
it was the fall, so I
wanted to start applying to college and

773
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.079
stuff. And I walked in and
I said, you know, I wanted

774
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.920
I want to apply to some colleges. And my college counselors you want to

775
00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:00.320
go to college. And I'm like, yeah, I do, said it

776
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.320
just like that. Your dad did
call and he says, no, he

777
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.920
said it just like that, you
want to go to college? Yeah,

778
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.440
I really do, you know.
And and so I ended up my brother

779
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.400
Rick ended up being my college counselor. He was my advisor, right,

780
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:15.280
you know, I just want to
I would use this guy to go get

781
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.960
applications. But I you know,
my Rick was my advisor. So you

782
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.960
know you have that and and you
know, both of us could have been

783
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.679
stopped right there, right if we
would have listened to the people that we

784
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.039
talk sure, and powerful people,
not powerful, but influential, influential people,

785
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.679
yeah, in in our lives.
And so you know, you know

786
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.960
your message of don't let people decide
for you, you know you decide,

787
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.079
that's a great message, right and
and uh, you know, and this

788
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.559
this guy goes up there and uses
it as a as a platform too to

789
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:52.599
go over to some crazy stupid ass. Well, there's people, the people

790
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:58.599
defending Steve, there's people who believe
the weirdest things, and so they're going,

791
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.119
you know, you're going to always
find somebody who believes in whatever you

792
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:06.199
Okay, well some people who believe
the world is flat. I mean,

793
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:07.760
come on, this is not a
weird thing. We gotta go. We'll

794
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.599
come back on the side. One
has some breaking news, and then we'll

795
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.400
move on with Chick Fisher, all
right,