Thanks so much for tuning in to the second live stream episode of dog Mean
Encounters. For tonight's special episode, we have a special guest, of course,
I'm talking about Brian Terrell. Brian is a dog man researcher from the
state of Oklahoma, and he's fielded a lot of reports, so let's give
him quite a bit of experience when it comes to dogmen, And with that
in mind, I've invited him on tonight's show to answer your questions. If
you have a question for Brian, please, by all means type it in
all caps in the live chat and I'll be more than happy to ask Brian
your question. If I had a dogman encounter that I wanted to be researched,
and I have my choice, of course, of all the dog man
researchers out there, you would really be right there at the top of the
list of who I would reach out to and ask to come out to investigate,
because, yeah, I mean, just the way you go about it,
I mean your no nonsense, You're obviously ethical, and you've got a
lot of qualities that I think eyewitnesses would really be drawn to. So yeah,
I can't say enough good things about you. I appreciate that you're welcome,
but yeah, just telling it like it is. Well, it looks
like we have the first question for you from Elaine Isabelle and the question reads,
Brian, how big was the black dog? Mean you saw running across
the field? Way too big? I it was. It was a little
ways away, so precision is not really an option, but I imagine that
if I was standing right next to it, it would probably be, you
know, right up around nose, how just below my eyes, probably so
five and a half feet five and a half foot tall at the head.
It was big. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask me judge, and weight's kind
of tough, but I'm gonna say it was five hundred pounds or more.
That's what I've always kind of stuck to because I know, what, you
know, some of these young calves way, you know, and kind of
make a rough estimate. But it was. It was big. It was
shockingly big, big enough that I knew that it wasn't some you know,
common dog. And like I said, I've told people before, I thought
it was some kind of wolf hybrid dog that had gigantism. For years,
this is the only thing I knew. But I tell you this, it
was it was not something you'd want to run into, you know, just
out in the woods. You know, it's it was just way too big.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like my kind of party at all. It
shocked me, I'll tell you that much. Oh, I'm sure he did,
yea, and for good reason. Well, looks like we have another
question for you from Tea Time with Tiffany and Tiffany wants to know what's your
opinion on dog being used as super soldiers. Well, I don't think there's
any The government is capable of anything, and the government, you know,
there's different factions within the government, so you know, my personal belief is
is that the government has probably gotten their hands on a few of them.
They've probably you know, cloned them or whatever and used them for multiple purposes.
There's no telling what they can dream up. I think it's possible.
Now, do I believe that they're breeding, you know, hundreds of them?
You know, I don't know. I think that's stretching it. I
mean, at most they might have like a you know, a small team
of these creatures that they use. How they control them, I don't know,
but yeah, I mean I know they're real, and if I know
they're real, the government knows they're real, and the government is going to
try to manipulate, weaponize just about anything that they can come across, you
know. I mean it's almost kind of their duty to do that kind of
work because if they don't, someone else is going to do it. And
so I guess I'd rather they did our government do it than somebody else's government.
But at the same time, I don't like secrets. But it's a
tough call. But yeah, I'm if I had to put money one way
or the other, I'd say, yeah, they've probably got some of these.
I just seriously doubt that they've got thousands of them. Maybe maybe you
know, small group or something like that. I mean, how would you
control something like that. It'd be tough, Yes, it would be Yeah,
there are a lot of problems that would come along with that. And
you don't think our government would do anything shady like that? Do you every
chance they get? Yeah? No doubt. Unfortunately. Well, I've got
another question for you from Toby mckimmey, And Toby wants to know can dog
me in mind speak if they choose to. I believe they can. I've
gotten several reports from people that have claimed to have received messages similar to that
of you know, people that get messages from sasquatch. I've actually talked to
a couple of people and they've had actual conversations within their head with these creatures,
and I believe them. I think that, you know, mind speak
isn't as crazy an idea. That's what people think. People do it,
and if people can do it, why can't other creatures do it? And
just to me, it just kind of makes common sense. We're always kind
of running on this thought process. You know that we are the you know,
the alpha species on this planet. You know, but what if we're
not, What if there's other creatures capable of this kind of stuff? I
would have to say, Yeah, my speak is definitely real, and I
don't even think it's really a supernatural thing. I mean, to be quite
honest with you, it's actually fairly common in human twins. I mean,
they communicate without talking all the time. So if you've ever lived with twins,
identical twins, or grown up with twins, you know this. It's
actually not that unusual. I used to think the mind speak and things like
that to go along with it were just nonsense why I got into this,
But there's just way too many credible eyewitnesses out there who are poor experience and
things like that to just dismiss it. So I think there must be something
to that. Yeah, there's a there's a lot of things out there.
When I first got in, I was just like whatever, you know,
But it's like, once you hear these people, these these these random people,
and they call you in, they tell you these stories, and you
know, and a lot of times they'll be like, well, you know,
I normally don't tell people this part, but there was this other thing,
you know, And after you get more and more people telling you the
same basic thing, You're like, you know, there's got to be something
to that. And I think everybody you know that that hosts the show or
does research or gathers stories, you know, we all go through that.
There's a there's a learning experience, you know, because when you start pooling
the data, you know, patterns start to emerge, and that that's when
it really gets interesting. Yes, it does that rabbit hole or something else.
Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Well I've got another question for you
from Violins. Violin makes me cry, and they want to know Vic and
Brian. Do you think dog men, Bigfoot and other cryptids and or other
entities do bump into your life when there's a low point in your life,
death, illness, depression, et cetera. Hmm, you want me to
go first, please do. This is your show, So I'm going to
be throwing all these questions at you. Wow, every once in a while
you'll kind of pick up on that. I've had people reach out to me
before and they'll talk about, you know, how this creature showed up and
you know, and how their their wife was sick or had cancer or something
like that, and you know. And I'm not going to say that it's
all the time, you know, but yeah, it seems to be.
I don't know yet, but I'm open to that idea. And for what
it's worth, the thought has crossed my mind before because I have known some
people that seem to be going through a lot and then that happens. And
my two dog men encounters happened roughly within a year of each other, during
a time when I was fixing to go through a divorce, whatever that's worth.
So now I believe it. It's one of those patterns I've noticed over
and over and over again, where it sure seems like there's something to that
as well. If you are feeling low or you're upset about something, it
seems like that does increase your odds of having an encounter with the dog me
in. I could be wrong about that, but sure seems to me like
there is a pattern. Just like you said, maybe it's something to do
with, you know, lower in your vibrations and and maybe they're attracted to
that kind of stuff. It's hard to say. It's hard to say that
it is. All right, I've got another question for you from Nate do
and Nate wants to know what the most unusual I'm sorry, the most usual
locations of dog mean encounters are what state? Oh yeah, like state of
the Union. Well, I really only specify in Oklahoma and southern Kansas,
but from what I've seen, there's a whole lot of them in basically like
the central part of the states. It seems like the further you get towards
the east coast or the west coast, it almost seems like you get less
and less reports. So they're still there, but it seems like from what
I've seen, you know, you start up there, and of course in
Michigan and you start trickling down, you know, laying between the lakes,
you know, and then you get over here into Kansas, you don't.
I personally haven't heard of a whole lot of them, a whole lot of
reports of them being over in Washington State, Oregon. I mean, you'll
get reports, but just not a lot in northern California, Colorado. I
don't think I've ever heard anybody. I've never heard of color rad O dog
man report. I'm sure you have, vig but I can't. I'm drawing
a blank on that one. But it seems like I hear a lot from
Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, you know,
and you kind of keep just kind of right down the middle of the central
United States. It seems like that's where a lot of them seem to be.
I honestly believe that Oklahoma is kind of a hotspot for those type of
creatures, because you know, I've got like two hundred and I think I've
got like two hundred and thirty Bigfoot case files, and I've got sixty five
dog man case files. So when you sit down you look at that,
I mean, I've got you know, like one dog man report for every
four Sasquats reports. And that's actually pretty high if you compare other states with
their you know, they're bigfoot, and most of them have like ten,
you know, ten times more bigfoot reports than they do dog man reports.
So I think there's a lot in this particular area, and especially down into
Texas and Louisiana. You know, there's there's just a lot of good habitat
for them. Yes, there is. Yeah, to say the least looks
like tea time with Tiffany has more of a comment than a question, she
says, or said. You would almost have to raise them from pups to
train them like that. She was the one who posted that question about the
super Soldier program. Well this, when you get your hands on a litter
of those, you let me know. I'll come pick one up. Yeah,
that'd be interesting, a little too interesting. All right, I've got
another question for you from Mama said, and she wants to know why do
these dog men sometimes smile at fools? Oh that's the tough one right there.
You know. I used to my grandpa used to have this dog named
Tippy, and Tippy was always doing that. He's always just a smiling,
barreness teeth, and you could tell he was just smiling. And if you
was to take human characteristics and put them on that dog, you would describe
that dog as just having an ornery look. And you know, I think
it's humans. We naturally kind of do that. We try to take human
characteristics and apply them to animals. I don't know that you could really say,
or it's even fair to say, that they're actually smiling. Smiling is
something we do. They have a completely different face, a completely different structure.
Are they smiling, I don't know, But if they are, it
would kind of indicate that maybe they're devious or up to something, or enjoying
the moment, if you will. I don't know. We don't have any
real evidence. I think the smiling thing could just be a natural face I
don't know, like a relaxed state or something for him. I don't know.
I just who knows. I've seen regular knines do it. I've got
a Pomeranian that looks like he's having a wonderful day every time you see.
Maybe that's a natural thing for them. I don't know. I've seen that
too, when the dog smiles at you and yeah, it's awfully creepy.
Yeah, that's an effect on you. All right, I've got another question
for you from Magnus, and Magnus wants to know why are dog men throwing
animals at people's homes. Animals, you know, like I'll we threw cats
and raccoons or swamp I wouldn't hold that against them. If they throw a
cat. I've never been a cat person, but yeah, throwing them at
that's a new one on me. If they're doing that, I don't think
they're doing that around here. I don't have any reports of dog men throwing
animals at someone's house. No, do you know of anything? Oh yeah,
yeah, I fielded plenty of reports like that where they've thrown cats and
swamp kitties, raccoons and other animals at homes, just I think to try
and get the people inside to come out to take a look. But they
do that unfortunately, not rocks. It's animals, Yeah, definitely animals.
Normally it's cats, but they have thrown animals at homes as well that weren't
cats. Seems like a rock would be easier to catch. Yeah, that's
true, But I don't think they have any trouble catching you name it whatever
it is, no doubt they're pretty fast. Yeah, that they are.
I don't know. I'm drawing a blank on that one. Oh, that's
okay. I've got another question for you from Slova dam Melusavic, and he
wants to know do you believe normal dogs slash wolves have mind speak capabilities?
Well, sometimes I wonder if a lot of animals don't have it. You'll
see animals acting impacts, doing things without making vocal gestures. I've often wondered
if mind speak isn't really common in the animal world, and maybe it's just
something that we have either lost our ability to do or don't do for whatever
reason. I would say that if you look at their behaviors in the way
they interact impact formations, I would say it almost looks like they're demonstrating it.
Yeah, I mean I would have to agree with that. Well,
they might not be making noises, but they definitely have the means to communicate
somehow between each other. Maybe it's body language. I don't know, but
yeah, there's something there. Yeah, sometimes the simplest answer is the right
one. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a really good point.
All right, I've got another question for you from Tim Spoon, and Tim
wants to know do you think dog men have have an et territory or a
home. I guess he means a home, territory or home or do they
just room and travel all the time? Boy? You know, I've spent
some time talking about this with my guys and and looking at some of the
reports, and I don't get a whole lot of reports of dog men that
are in one area and they stay there. I only know of one story
little lady claims that they're on her property all the time, and other than
that, most of the people, even the ones that have them occasionally around
their house, excuse me, they will tell you that they're there for you
know, a month or something, and then they're gone for like the rest
of the year. But they keep coming back, or they come back twice
a year and they'll stay for a couple of weeks and then they'll leave,
which would kind of indicate that they are, you know, kind of migratory.
So I'm really not of the opinion that sasquatch migrates very much at all,
But when it comes to these dog man creatures, I totally buy into
it that they're just kind of moving around and kind of changing areas. Maybe
they're managing their food resources. Maybe they don't want to deplete you know,
one area, so they'll hunt and you know, kind of take from that
area for a little while, and they'll move on, they'll go somewhere else.
It kind of would make a lot more since but I don't have any
evidence that they are moving around constantly, but it would kind of fit the
randomness of the sightings, and that would kind of go a long way to
explain in that And it might also you know, it's kind of why it's
problematic for me as a researcher trying to pinpoint where I need to look for
them. So yeah, I would buy into that, but I don't have
any evidence pointing in one direction or another on that one. You raised some
really good points. I've got a comment. It's not a question, but
it's a comment from Mike Smith, and he says God created, but demonically
driven, and he just might be right. It's hard to say and hard
to know. I've got another quest question for you from Fat Tires Big Feet,
and they want to know did the dog me and you saw have human
like legs or backward like a dog backwards like a dog. Yeah, both
of them had the canine legs. I got a pretty good look at well
both of them really, but the one I got to see running away at
a three quartering angle, you know, so I kind of see his legs
kicking out. They're definitely knine so, but the back legs were I think
shorter than the front legs, at least that's what appeared to me. That
makes sense. All right, I've got another question for you from Aleen Isabelle
and Aleen wants to know, Brian, what's the scariest dog me in the
county you've heard of? M Well, I I was talking to a guy,
an eyewitness recently that I did an interview with who is kind of a
kind of wild story. But he said that he was approached mentally by a
what he interpreted as an elder dog man, perhaps a pack leader or something,
and this dog man communicated message to him that he and his people of
his tribe, which this was a reservation type setting, needed to make sure
that them and all of their children were inside the house after dark and not
to come out because his pack was going to be in that area for the
next couple of weeks and yeah, I know that's getting kind of into the
wou there, but he was very sincere and they had a meeting and he
told his people and they did exactly what they were told. But in my
opinion, that's kind of a scary situation to think that these creatures run in
big packs and they hunt in a Pacific area and that apparently, you know,
we are in some enough mortal danger whenever they're in our area that an
elder would reach out to a Native American spiritual advisor and tell him, hey,
you need to keep your people out because we don't want a collateral damage,
you know. And to me, that's just like, well, what
do the rest of us do? You know, what happens if we just
happen to be, you know, going out to the barn or something like
that. And especially when because I do believe that they kind of run in
packs. I mean believe, I believe there's solow ones, there's individuals,
you know that sometimes they're alone, but I think for the most part they're
probably running in pat groups. You just don't see them. And to me,
that's kind of a scary thing to think that, you know, there's
not just a creature like a dog men out there, but that they running
packs. You know, how big are the packs? That's that's to me,
that's the scary part. You know. When I saw my first dog
man, I you know, I thought it was just a lone, strange
animal that had gigantism, and I didn't think it would live very long,
you know. I figured that it would be put down very quickly. And
one of the biggest shocks was when I realized that there was actually a breeding
population of these things. I mean, there's a huge difference between one dog
man and twelve of them, you know, And I think that's the scariest
part to me is that they may not be alone and probably are not alone.
Yeah, if that really happened, that warning, that raises a lot
of questions, and I can't think of any questions that are good. I
know. I know when he told me about that, I was just like
WHOA. I didn't even know what to say. It's just kind of like
wow. But it's good when you have somebody that is receptive to that kind
of stuff. Most of us, I think, have kind of turned that
part of our brain off when it comes to that kind of stuff. But
he was one of those people that he knew that these creatures were out here,
and he was more in touch with his spiritual side, and he had
been in communication with other creatures, and they just thought it would be prudent.
I guess, you know, in an effort, like I said,
to kind of avoid problems. I'm just gonna word it like that. Wow.
What do you make of that one? Yeah? Wow? Is right?
In life is a lot more convenient when you turn that side of your
brain off and you don't have to worry about dog men and sasquatch and who
knows what else when you're heading out to the barn or you're even near the
woods. So it's understandable why so many people do that. Yeah, yeah,
definitely. I've got another Yeah, it must be nice. I agree.
I've got another question for you. It's from Luke Neely and Luke,
you didn't type your question in all caps. Luckily I caught it, so
I'm going to ask this, but anyone, if you have questions for Brian
here, please be sure to type them in all caps so I don't miss
them. Well. Having said that, Luke's question is, Brian, do
you think the scent of fear that a human produces in an encounter determines the
level of aggression and or violence in that encounter. That's a really good question.
Hard to say. I haven't when ninety nine point nine percent of all
of the case files result in the human living through the story, right,
They very seldom will ever even touch you. Rarely, rarely, ever happens
most of the time. If they wanted you, they could have got you.
So do I think that fear is a trigger? No, I don't
think it's a trigger. It may trigger some kind of natural, primitive response
in them, but obviously they're not acting on it. So I would have
to say probably, I'm sure they pick up on that, but I don't
think they're acting on it, is what I'm saying. Most of these creatures
show a lot of restraint, and where why why they have so much restraint
is kind of a mystery. Maybe they don't like the taste of human meat.
Maybe maybe there's a spiritual barrier that you know from the Almighty that they're
not allowed to cross. Maybe there's another reason that's outside of our realm of
understanding. It's hard to say, but I don't think it's if I'm sure
they probably can pick it up. But I just don't think that it's it's
definitely not triggering them to attack us. Let's just put it that way,
all right. Well said, I've got another question for you from Shauna Hint
Salah and Shawna's question is do you think the lack of dog me incightings in
Washington and Oregon has anything to do with the Sasquatch population. You know,
I've gotten a couple of reports where people will say that it seems like when
the dog man show up, the big fiddle leave, and then when the
when the dog man leave, the big fiddles show back up. I could
kind of see that. I'm not one of those people that subscribe to the
whole, you know, fantasy thing about the dog man and the Bigfoot going
wwf on each other. I personally find it kind of annoying. We really
don't have any evidence of that. It's just it's just something that just keeps
coming up and coming up and coming up. And you know, I mean,
people people would definitely pay to see that on pay per view, but
it ain't really happening. So maybe they're just professional. Maybe it's a professional
courtesy thing. I do know of a few stories where people have claimed that
both species are living on a particular piece of property full time and that they
live in peace, and and there's been other stories of them interacting and stuff.
But it would just kind of make sense in a way that if you've
got a pack of dog men and you know, and a clan of bigfoot
working the same area, that's going to be counterproductive. It'd probably just be
easier for one or the other to go and move off into a different location,
just for you know, just being intelligent. So that's kind of what
I think it might be. But you know, again, I don't have
all the answers. But sometimes when you've been looking at the the reports long
enough and listen to stories long enough, you can draw some conclusions. But
even then, you know every situation is going to be different. But I
think for the most part, they tend to avoid each other. But I
think it's just like people too. I mean, some people just don't get
along. Just imagine all the demands that will put on a certain area in
the woods in a forest if you had both dog men and sasquatch living there.
I can only imagine. Well, gosh, yes, I mean just
and like I said, I think if it's anything, it's about managing food
resources. So yep, you're probably right. I see a couple more questions
that are not in all caps, that almost blew right past and missed.
So yeah, like I said, please, if you have any questions for
Brian, please type them in all the caps so I don't miss them.
All right, it looks like the next question for you is from No More
fun Land and they want to know do dog men seem as prevalent in Canada
as USA? There are dogs, There are Canadian reports of dog man.
I think there's a lot more bigfoot reports further up north, but I don't
think it's I mean, just from what I've heard. I'm just kind of
judging on what i've heard. But what I hear and what I know is
kind of biased because Canada is kind of out of my wheelhouse. I'm just
one guy. I just primarily focus on one area, and so a lot
of times if if a story or something like that or a podcast is about
something that's out of my area, I either, you know, I might
listen to it, but maybe I don't, you know, try to remember
the details, and I definitely don't write it down like I do with you
know, local reports anything from Oklahoma or the surrounding states. So I don't
really know, but I can tell you from what I've seen, it seems
like there's a lesser degree of dog man activity if you get up into Canada.
But a person that was from that area, that was a researcher would
probably be a lot more knowledgeable than me on that one. All right,
I got that one taken care of. Got another question that is not in
all caps from Fuzzy one Z and they want to know where they're saying,
Hi, Vic, Hi Brian, Hey Fuzzy, are there a lot of
dog men in Mexico? Oh? You know that's now. So there was
a guy that was that posted a question on your Facebook page in relationship to
dog men being possible twop of cabras, and I, you know, I
think this might tie into Fuzzy's question. I think, and this is just
my personal opinion, that they may be confusing and people may be confusing the
two with each other. And it really didn't hit me until a couple months
ago. About six months ago, I was out at one of the local
lakes out here where I kind of do some research occasionally, and I was
at a bigfoot spot and I was down there looking for footprints. It ran
into this fisherman guy, and you know, I did the whole So have
you ever seen anything weird or unusual down here? You know, it's always
you never know which way the conversations want to go from there. But he
was like, yeah, yeah, I saw this weird thing. Had my
daughter with me in the truck, and he basically went on to tell me
this story about this cheopacabra that he saw and his daughter saw it too,
and it was a daytime roadside encounter, and he said it troubled him because
of its sheer size, and it scared his daughter pretty bad, because I
guess his daughter is like seven or eight. It upset her. But he
was calling it a chewpacabra. But whenever he really sat down and started describing
it, he was describing a dog man. And I think a lot of
dog men could easily be confused with that. You know, they kind of
got the lower back legs some of them have, you know, like the
lion's main of fur, which almost makes it look like, you know,
their lower end of their body, and their arms are not hairless but almost
hairless. You know, and uh, of course, you know at Cheapicabra
some of the cheap ofcabra depictions, you know, their heads kind of look
canine anyway, depending on which chupacabra animal you're talking about. But but yeah,
I really do. I think there's a lot of these juvenile, you
know, dog men down there that are probably being seen and they're probably just
referred to as chupacabra. And I think that's a pretty safe bet. But
that's just one guy speculating over here. I'm I'm a long way from Mexico,
so yeah, good point. Yeah, you are a pretty good distance.
All right. I've got another question that wasn't an all that I caught
from nine oh three Bulldog, and they want to know has Brian had any
reports around Ponca City or Tonkawa, Oklahoma that's right at the Kansas border.
Yeah. Yes, as a matter of fact, And if Bulldog, if
you hit me up on Facebook Messenger, I'll send you links to the case
files. Yes, I've got a case file from the Lamont area, which
is just west of Tonkawhah, of a family that the mother and daughter saw
one of these creatures. There's been a couple of reports. The guy that
I just interviewed. If you go to my YouTube, you'll see some of
the interviews that I just did. I just recently did a couple of in
views and this guy told me about a twenty sixteen eyewitness account just south of
Ponca City that he had. Let's see, if you go north into Kansas,
there's been a few reports up and around Wichita and over north of Caney,
Kansas, just across into the border, there's there's been several but that
area has spotted reports. But that seems to be that there are no there
are no clusters. But yeah, there's a lot of reports around Ponka and
Tonkawa. Tonkawa is a pretty good Sasquatch place too, so so so it's
Ponka City, a lot of good habitat there. You're just me and they
ask about that. You know, all right, I've got a question for
you from Rex, and Rex wants to know could you point out the differences
between dog men and were wolves? Well that I struggle with that. That's
you know, I had somebody, had somebody bring up something once and you
know, if all dog men were actually shape shifters, it would go a
long way to explaining why we've never caught up with them. And when I
heard that being said, I was like, hmm, I'm not sure.
I like the sound of that, but I don't know that I prescribed to
all that. I'm still on the fence of this human like aanthropy thing,
although you do hear whispers and rumors and it's very troubling, but it seems
to be if you had to put your money in one way or the other,
that would be probably the last place I would put my money. But
the you know, the these these wearables supposedly are humans that change back and
forth, either at will or with the moon phase. It seems like most
of that is Hollywood sensation. But at the same time, you've got these
these ancient traditional stories from Europe and from Native Americans of these shape shifters and
stuff like that. I'm not going to ever dismiss it as total nonsense,
but at the same time, it's one of those things. I do everything
I can to be an evidence based investigator, but I got no evidence for
that, so it's really hard to say. I mean, I've never had
anybody call in and tell me personally that you know, they saw somebody turning
turn into a werewolf. Now, I have had a couple of people that
have come real close to telling me these things, but you know, the
end result was something different, more, something more like a rake or something
like that. But he and I don't know. I just it seems like
to me that the lion's share of them are born dog men and they stay
a dog man their whole life. I've got a friend named Brandon who's Native
American, and he told me a long time ago. He says there's three
types of dog men, according to his people. He says, there's there's
these natural born giant wolf like dog men that basically are like giant dire wolves,
except bigger. And he said that they're born and then just a species
and they're just really really shy and they stay away from humans. And he
said, and then there's and they have hands, you know, like raccoon
typeans, and you know, kind of almost human looking towrso. But he
said that they're just a natural breeding animal and they're just one hundred percent flesh
and blood. He said, There's another one that is more of a spiritual
animal that is like supernatural that kind of can move in and out of the
spirit world. But he said, that's a completely different animal, creature whatever.
And he said there's a third type, and he said that's the shape
shifters, the medicine men. He said, almost always these medicine men are
bad men that are using this Native American medicine for bad purposes. And he
said that you can almost always spot one of these creatures because if you look
at it and you see that part of it is deformed or misshaped, he
said, that's a sign that it's a Native American medicine man that's shape shifting.
He said, sometimes you know their head will be too big, or
one of their legs will be kind of kind of gimped up, or maybe
one of their legs is too big or something like that. They'll just have
something that's about on that that's not right. And he said that almost every
one of those shape shifting medicine men, it'll always have something that just doesn't
look right about the creature. That's how you spot them. And from everything
that I've learned so far moving forward, I've never found anything that really contradicts
what Brandon told me. It just really just kind of validates. It seems
like everything that I run across. It seems to validate what he said,
and I kind of stick with that. As you know, these creatures are
going to go into one of three categories with me. Wow, what a
great answer. That was really thorough. I'm impressed. And before we move
on with tonight's show, so that everyone knows, there is going to be
another live stream tomorrow night at n iepm Eastern time. At the same time,
Kim from episode fort eighty eight is going to come back on and tell
us about an encounter that she had last weekend and she just might have seen
Imber's family. She's going to tell you all about what happened, and we
hope you listen and tune in again. That's going to be at nine pm
Eastern time tomorrow night, Friday. All right, got another question for you,
Brian from c F to Double nine, and their question is Hi,
there any comments toward towards what role of these being such as dog men,
played in the planet's ancient past, for instance, Egypt god Nubis. Thank
you, Oh that you know. It's it's actually kind of funny because it
seems like there's a higher level of documentation about dog men in ancient history than
there is Sasquatch, which I think the Sasquatch populations are greater, but the
dog Men are talked about more in ancient lore. You know, of course
there's a Nubis, and you know, people want to talk about how it
was just all fiction and whatever. But you know, whenever people say that,
I'm always like, do you have any idea how much of work goes
into carving something into stone? I mean, this is not a comic book.
You know, these are not superheroes that they're drawing on the walls with
chisels and stuff like that. You know, these were probably real things that
they were very serious about, and it just makes sense that it would be
a real creature. As I recall, I think Alexander the Great was reported
to have captured two dog Men warriors, and you know, he made them
swear allegiance to him and fight for him, and you know, you know,
understanding that he would spare their life. Now, of course, as
we all know, Alexander the Great rain kind of got cut short prematurely,
and we really don't know what happened after that, but there's a you know,
there's the Marco Polo story about him finding an island full of the creatures
they called the sinus cephally. I mean, the history goes all the way
back, and I think it's kind of fascinating because, you know, I
think I think they were more common back then. There was a Greek philosopher
that are a Greek historian, and I can't remember his name now, but
he was talking about a civilization of dog men that lived over in the mountains
by India, and he was saying that there was like one hundred and twenty
thousand of them, so maybe their populations are dwindling. That's usually what happens
when, you know, any other race or civilization hangs out with human beings
too long. We usually end up killing them off. But you know,
this stuff goes way back. I mean, it's fascinating. There's all these
little snippets here and there. You know, there's the what's the the Catholic
Saint Christopher that was a dog headed man? Was that right, Christopher?
Vic? I believe? So yeah, okay, I'm having a moment here.
But you know, this this stuff goes on and on and on.
There's all these little, you know, tidbits, you know, and and
it's just back then people were seeing these things and we're still seeing them today.
You know, I don't. I don't know if the fact that we
are denying their existence at this point, I don't think that really looks good
on our part. And it's almost like we've always known that they were there
and it was common knowledge, and it just now, all of a sudden
recently in the last two hundred years, we've just conveniently forgot that they exist.
I don't. I don't understand that, but yeah, I think it
goes all the way back. I wouldn't be surprised if it does. So
you know that makes two of us. All right, I've got a question
for you from Lance, and Lance wants to know why does our government cover
up the existence of these creatures? Oh? Lance is going to get me
in trouble with this one. Yeah. I get flack over this all the
time. I understand that everybody wants disclosure. I get it. But the
truth is is, you know, a person is smart, but people are
stupid. And you get against of people together and put them in, you
know, a situation where they're confronting something that's scary. What do they do?
They form a mob, They get their torches and their pitchforks and they
kill it. That's our nature. And so, to be honest, I
think that the government hiding sasquatch and dog men from us is actually a good
thing. I don't think we can handle it. I really don't. I
honestly believe that if the government came out and said, yeah, they're out
there, we know they live in a couple of pockets out here or whatever.
I mean, there would be an army of rednecks loading up in their
pickup trucks with you know, a couple of cases of beer, and you
know it's they're going to head to the woods and they're going to start World
War three, you know. And I think it's a good thing that they're
actually keeping it from us. They're not keeping it from me, I know,
you know. I mean, it's not a secret from me, but
it's I don't know. I think it's better that the general public doesn't know.
Now, if they were actually after us, and they were hunting us,
and they were harvests that's for food on a regular basis, and I
would say, yes, the government has a man day to inform us and
protect us and this, that and the other. But that's not really the
case. So I think you're right. Yeah, I think it is by
far and away best for the general public not to know about their existence.
Look how we dealt with COVID, How there was this not really a panic,
but look how things played out. I mean I had a hard time
get my hands on toilet paper. Brian, that's not a good situation.
I mean, what do you do when there's no TP in the house?
You tell me, Brian, what am I supposed to do in a situation
like that? I don't do, like any old, good old fashioned dog
Mandez, go out in the backyard and drag your ass in the grass.
Yeah, yeah, I guess that's an option, the last ditch option.
I'd rather not have to explore. But do what check to do. Chiggers
are real, you know. But yeah, the COVID thing, I mean,
I don't want to dig in too deep for that, but you know,
it really did kind of teach us a lot of things. And uh
so, I really I'm at a point now where I don't really I'll never
underestimate the stupidity of humans, you know. I mean, look at us.
We've basically been at war killing somebody for how long? I mean an
eternity. You know, I don't know we're complicated. I guess yes,
we are that and in some All right, I've got another question for you
from Fuzzy one Z and they want to know. Well, the question was
directed at me, but this isn't about me. This is about you,
So I'm going to ask you, Brian. Their question is, what are
the legends of dog mean origins? Well, I actually did a video on
that just recently. I was fortunate enough to get to interview a Ponka Nation
First Nations tribal spiritual advisor and he actually shared his tribe's story and it's pretty
interesting. If you want to hear that story, just go to my YouTube
video. It'd probably be better off if you just hear him tell the story
firsthand instead of getting hearsay from me. Knowing me, I'll probably mess something
up. But you know, I don't know that there's a whole lot of
origin stories about where the dog men or where the sasquatch really came from,
as far as like traditional lore, and you know, from across now there
may be some stories over in Europe that I'm not aware of, but it
seems like to me most of the stories traditional stories revolve around like aanthropy and
stuff like that, and I don't really put up a heck of a lot
of stock in that I personally believe that they are a physical, flesh and
blood animal, both species, and they both have just been here a really
long time. And if you really want to get technical, I believe that
they're creations of the most high gone and they've just been here forever. A
lot of First Nations people will tell you that the Sasquatch people have been on
this earth longer than we have, but nobody really talks a whole lot about
where the dogman originally came from. So that I think, personally, I
think it's kind of a mystery. You really have thought this through, put
a lot of good thought into this. I'm impressed. All right, Brian,
I've got another question for you, and this one's from Toby mckimmey,
and Toby wants to know why does the government cover up dog men attacks?
Hmm, Well, he's right about the attack thing. It seems like there's
a standard, you know, sop with these dog if a human being does
actually get attacked, or if they are touched or they have some kind of
physical you know, evidence or whatever about this about an attack. It seems
like the government always does get involved, and they have a vested interest in
keeping these stories at bay. I get it. People always ask me.
It's like if you ever got attacked by Bigfoot and the men in black showed
up, you know, what would you do. I'll tell you what I
would do. I would tell them I'd be more than happy to keep my
mouth shut for you know, seven or eight million, you know that could
afford it. But I think that they need to keep it under wraps.
And I think that it's there's so many more reasons than we haven't even thought
about, you know. You know, it's kind of back to It's kind
of like bouncing back to COVID. You know, we knew that a disease
could break out. We knew that a lot of people could get sick and
die. We knew these were possibilities. We didn't think we'd run out of
toilet paper, you know, we didn't think that they would finally come out
with hand sanitizer that actually smelled good and didn't burn, you know, didn't
dry your skin out. I mean, there was all these little knickknack things
that came out of COVID that we never would have a million years seen coming,
right. And I think it's the same thing with dog Man and sasquatch.
I think that if it was to come out in public that there was
another species out there, I think that there would be a thousand little things
that would change that we don't even have a clue. So I think it's
I think it's probably is important because even the government is probably not capable of
predicting all the little things that would change when the general public's perception of the
woods changes entirely overnight. You know, there's a lot of factors, a
lot of chess pieces involved in a situation like that, and so at the
end of the day, the best thing to do is to keep the keep
the truck on the same path, and to try to maintain what we've got
so that because we know what we've got and what we've got, it's safe
or at least you know, it's not going to destroy the economy. Right.
So their their their job is to keep things trucking along in the same
direction, And for the most part, I'm good with that because I don't
want to run out of toilet paper again. Yeah, that makes two of
us. Yeah, that's not a good scene at all. All right,
I've got another question for you from Magnus, and Magnus wants to know do
dog men target people with canines as pets. Hmm, well, you know
the I don't maybe so, I mean, never really put it together.
I know that it seems like dogs, domestic dogs, they act different if
you if you talk to eyewitnesses, it seems like the domestic dogs act differenturrently
around dog men that they do sasquatch. A lot of times I'll keep barking
at sasquatch when they really shouldn't. But like almost ninety percent of time,
from what I've seen, when a dog man comes around, all the dogs
get real submissive, and they usually try to go crawl underneath the house or
whatever try to get out of there. I have heard some weird, random
stories about dogs wanting to hang out with dog men, but I'm not so
sure about the validity of those stories. But I think that they're just you
know, I think that they're just I don't know, that's a good question.
I don't know how it would change the way that that person or that
that dog man would interact with the human that has dogs. I mean,
so many people have dogs. It's it's tough two filter out which reports involved
people with dogs in which one? Then I don't know, that's a that's
that'd be a tough one. And it's it's a good thought though. And
it's questions like that when they get tabled and when you actually sit down and
start looking at it, That's that's when you know you start learning stuff because
once you once, you once a question like that enters your brain. From
that point on, I'll be thinking about that. So maybe i'll have a
better answer for that a couple of years. All Right, there you go,
Magnez. All Right, I've got another question for you from Trio wool
four by four and their question is do you think the recent wildfires across North
America will cause more sightings? Mm? Well, yes I do. Whether
or not those sightings will get reported is a different story. Yeah, there's
been a lot of wildfires, and now everybody has a cell phone in their
pocket, and the cell phones are getting better and better cameras, so I
wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if something comes up from it.
But you know, they're still they're they're going to be very elusive, and
they're very fast, and I don't really expect to get much out of it,
but I think that it's probably it could be pushing them further inland,
you know, towards the center of the United States. It could be doing
the same thing with sasquatch. I don't know. I've heard crazy stories though,
of you know, like what do they call those those firefighters that jump
into fires or whatever running into cryptid creatures. I've always been kind of fascinated
by those stories because when it's kind of hard to find cover when everything's on
fire, So yeah, it's kind of It's kind of one of those things
that makes you think it would create a hell of an opportunity for large amounts
of animals, including cryptids, to be on the move, be in a
hurry, and to be what's the word I'm looking for, not very cautious,
you know, as far as like stand out of sight. So yeah,
I wouldn't be surprised. Well said, before I throw this next question
at you there, Brian, please promote your channel if anyone wants to listen
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keep that in mind. Welcome, You're welcome. The next question is
from Holly Stevens, and Holly wants to know do you know how the dog
men or do you know how dog men actually communicate with each other? Or
do they well? Most of the time when you hear stories about people encountering
packs of these creatures, you don't hear about them, you know, talking,
Occasionally you're hear them making whistle noises, clicking noises stuff like that.
But those could be forms of communication, but it seems like to me it'd
be a lot like you know, any other pack animals or whatever. It
just seems like to me. And I know I'm stretching it and I'm really
getting out there. But you know, this mind speak thing, I mean,
it just checks all the you know, it just it kind of answers
all the questions, you know what I mean. And so the longer that
I am in this genre and the more scenarios that are put in front of
me, the more mind speak just makes a lot more sense. I think
they communicate using mind speak. I think occasionally they choose to communicate with us
using mind speak. I personally think that we just turned it off. So
I don't think it's I don't think supernatural. I don't think mine speak is
supernatural, paranormal or anything like that. I think it's just a gift that
we don't have anymore, or at least, you know, ninety nine percent
of us don't have anymore. So yeah, I'll die buy into that.
It just might be right. All right, I've got another question for you
from your boy Alpha X, and they want to know have you heard about
any dog man sightings in the Navajo reservation. Oh man, you know the
Navajo's over there. I know they've got them, but I think the general
consensus over there is that they're not dog men, that they're skin walkers.
You know, there's super strong Native American presence out there, and from what
I understand, there's a long, deeply seated held fear of the skin walkers
over there. And I think that there may be some dog men running around
over there that are just natural born dog men that people naturally assume that their
skin walkers are a medicine man, and so it's kind of hard to say
which would be which. I watched one of the most fascinating videos I ever
seen that would involved a tribal law enforcement officer over there on the Navajo Reservation,
I believe, and he was interviewed I guess him and his partner specialty
was dealing with cryptids and paranormal type stuff, and all I can say is
is just wow, you know that guy and his stories. Can't remember his
name now, but absolutely amazing. And I guess they have a ton of
activity over there, and it's just it's super common. But the weird thing
is is they will not talk about it a lot of times because they believe
that it is one of these medicine men, and they believe that it could
be somebody they know, and so they're like doubly scared. Not only are
they scared of the creature, but they're scared that if the talk about it,
they might be talking to that person that's doing that stuff. And so
you know, it's kind of like a compounded fear over there. So kind
of that's that's some crazy stuff over there, complicated, I think, I
think it gets real complicated. Yeah, that is crazy stuff. They say,
you don't want to be walking around on the reds at nighttime. Yeah,
maybe there is something to that. I don't know. I think all
reservations have, you know, kind of a higher level of spiritual presence.
Don't ask me why. I don't know. They just seem like they do.
You just might be right about that. Will I've got a question for
you from Robin. And Robin wants to know have there been any sightings in
Fall Creek Falls, Tennessee. She says it's twenty eight thousand acres State Park.
Well, I don't know exactly where that is. I did go to
the land between the lakes recently and that was absolutely amazing. And that's of
course that that place, that area there is is known for dog man sidings
and of course the famous Lowes eighty two or eighty four dog man massacre over
there. I'm going to say, yeah, there's a lot, but as
far as knowing specific ones in that specific area, that is unfortunately way out
of my area of expertise. So but I know Tennessee and Kentucky and Georgia,
there's there's a lot of them. I think the populations of them over
there are pretty high, probably even comparable to sasquatch populations in Oklahoma. All
Right, I got a question for you from Keith Smith, and Keith wants
to know why does some dog men kill humans and some don't. Well,
I believe that there is this this spiritual barrier, and I, as crazy
as it sounds, I think that they are not allowed to kill us by
the most high, you know, the Creator God. I think that there's
a there's a spiritual boundary. But I believe that sometimes you know, accidents
happen or they cross that line out of desperation or something, and once you've
done that, you know it's it's kind of like, well, it doesn't
matter now, you know. It's kind of like when you when you I
guess, when you murder somebody, you know, the first one is the
hardest, I guess, I don't know, and you know, the second
one should theoretically be easier. And it's like it doesn't really matter because if
you get caught, the punishment is going to be the same anyway. So
the way I look at it, you know, ninety nine percent of them
are going to leave you alone. But there's that one percent that he's probably
already been there and he's broke the rule, and so at this point it
don't matter. Those are the ones that are dangerous. I think that's where
a lot of our missing people go. Now. I think that you know,
a large number of the missing people, the missing four one one people,
I think that's just natural stuff where they just stepped off in a sinkhole
or something like that, just slipped out of sight and you know, vanished
and got you know, just died and there the remains just never got found.
But you know, as far as like you know, people getting eaten
by by dog man man, you're talking about extremely rare situation and uh,
you know, I just I don't think it happens that often. That makes
two of us. But I'll tell you this, I really hope never to
encounter a one percenter when it comes to dog Man. That wouldn't be good.
Amen, Yeah, yeah, not good at all. All Right,
I've got a question for you from Renee Mari Kanie Moriconi, and Renee wants
to know where are these breeding programs done at. Oh? Well, I
don't know, my uh, I wouldn't have a clue, flat out wouldn't
even speculate a guess. Probably the most remote places they can possibly find.
Who knows underground? Underground seems to be the easiest way to contain stuff like
that. But I haven't even heard any good rumors on that one. So
way above my pay grade. Well, if you listen to enough shows,
you're going to hear rumors about where you can find them, exactly where you
can find them. I wouldn't put much stock into that, but you're going
to hear it nonetheless. Alright, looks like I have a comment instead of
a question from Robin. She says, I wish we could just understand them
why they do what they do. And yeah, that makes two of us.
Right, moving on looking for the next question. This one is from
a paranormal quest with Angie, and she wants to know do you think that
dog men use portals like Bigfoot? The Again, I'm going to refer to
my own case files, right, I don't have any case files that involve
a dog man stepping through a portal or disappearing. And usually when you know,
you hear about somebody say, well, you know, it went into
the woods and it just vanished or whatnot. A lot of time, I
don't put a whole lot of stock in that because I'm not saying that portals
don't exist. Don't get me wrong, you know, I believe that.
In my personal opinion is is I believe portals exist. I just you know,
to different dimensions or you know, like a portal to Heaven or Earth,
you know. But I don't. I think God controls that, and
so I think that if something's coming through a portal, it has permission to
come through the portal. I don't believe that, you know, demons and
other creatures and evil entities are allowed to come and go as they please.
They're they're kept in check for a reason. And this this traveling into our
dimension is restricted, is what I personally believe. Otherwise you know that this
this would be hell on earth living here with with all these you know,
evil spiritual entities running around. I don't know. I'm I mean, that's
that's that's the thought process that kind of keeps me going and makes me put
you know, logic to it. It's it's the box that my brain puts.
Then, yeah, I'm not God. I don't have all the answers,
and I don't know, but I have not yet had too many people
reach out to me with stories about portals and stuff. Now I'm ready to
listen, and my mind has been changed before on certain things, so I
do not dismiss that kind of stuff as nonsense. But when it comes to
these stories about portals, it seems like most of the stories about portals,
whether it be Sasquatch or dog Man, it seems like these stories are coming
from podcasts and content creators that dabble in fiction. And when you start dabbling
in fiction, that's a slippery slope. And I just don't I don't know
that that's not just that the whole portal thing is not just fiction too.
I just don't know. I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying,
where's the evidence. That's that's all I'm saying. I'm not calling you by
a liar. I just you know, and for what it's worth, i'd
kind of like to see that evidence. So it'd be some of the coolest
things you've ever seen. But maybe a lot of this portal stuff is you
know, them camouflaging themselves or some people call it cloaking. You know,
I do believe that they may be able to bend light and stuff like that.
There's a natural precedence in nature for that kind of behavior, So yeah,
I'm down for believing in that. But as far as just stepping into
a portal, I don't know. I don't know. I'm still kind of
on the fence. Somebody wanted to take me out in the woods and show
me I'm all ears and eyes. It is a lot to wrap your mind
around. But like I said earlier, there are so many credible eye witnesses
who come forward and reports witnessing that, So for me, it's really hard
to discount that. I'm just not really sure what to think about that.
Yeah, you get a lot more of those than I do, I think,
Yeah, I get quite a few of them. I also get a
my fair share of messages, like the one that came in not too long
ago. Guy was complaining that he visited the dog in the counter's door.
He wanted to buy a T shirt. But he's complaining. He says,
VIC, what's going on here or something like that. I wear a size
two XL and I looked into your store and all you carry are XXCEL T
shirts. If you start carrying two xls and I'll buy a shirt from you,
I don't know. I just don't know. Can't win, Well,
that is funny, just can't win anyway. I've got another question for you
from Mahala, and her question is has Brian talked with Polit's to compare the
four to one one disappearances. No, I have not talked to him.
He's he hasn't been down in my way for a while that I know of.
But I have noticed, and I have taken note that his missing person's
map that everybody sees on the internet floating around. You know, that's a
pretty interesting map. And if you look at it, there's a couple of
little hotspots down there in southeastern Oklahoma that I took note of. And one
of them happens to appear to be kind of over there on the Laflora County
area. And there is there is a lot of people there, there's hiking
trails there, there's a lot of woods there. But at the same time,
that area is also known for really bad drug use and poverty, you
know, And all I'm saying, and I'm not trying to pick on the
people that live down there, but what I'm saying is is and there's about
a thousand ways that somebody can just disappear down in southeastern Oklahoma. And just
because you vanish, that doesn't mean that it was encrypted. So I don't
know. David Plotts does some pretty pretty solid work, but you know,
I try to focus on my area and what I'm doing down here, and
haven't really heard him talk a whole lot about I haven't read any of his
books, but I've watched his own movie, and I always pay attention when
he comes on because I think he's got some stuff to offer. But as
far as like my specific area, Nope, never met the man. But
maybe maybe someday, maybe someday, you never know, just might happen.
Oh yeah, all right, I've got a question for you from Chance Martin
and Chance wants to know do you think that Sasquatch and dog men work together
or barely could exist? Hello from Indiana. From everything that I've seen and
I've been told, yeah, I don't think that they you know, I
don't think that's common. I think there's certain situations when they work together,
but I think they basically they know when they're the other ones in the area
and they'll just avoid each other. Like I said, I think it's a
resources thing, you know. I don't you know, maybe maybe there's a
higher level of contact there, but you know, it just kind of makes
sense. You know, you've got big, big predators in the area.
You know, it just go somewhere else. There's plenty of food to go
around, you know. But I don't think they run around buddy buddy.
Although I have heard weird stories of people that believe that sass that the dog
men are like pets to the Sasquatch, But I think that maybe coming from
another fictional situation. It's kind of hard. It's kind of hard to make
that call on some of them. But you hear people tell those stories every
once in a while. But I'm not seeing the evidence. There was a
lay in between the lakes story that where this guy believed that this past of
dog men was being commanded by a sasquatch or two sasquatches, And that guy
was like super believable. I can't remember his name. He was like an
ex police officer, but him and another guy witnessed it. But you know,
you hear one story and the guy's real believable. But before you start
changing your mind and shifting your mind towards that type of thinking, you need
to hear more than just one or two stories about something like that before you,
you know, you really start believing it. So I'm still on the
fence on that one. I like the way you think. All right,
I've got another question for you from Mystery Junkie, and they want to know
could dog men be able to climb trees? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
especially the younger one. We've had a lot. We've had several reports of
them up in trees moving around to that's kind of creepy. But sasquatch do
that too. But yeah, I think even the larger dog men will take
advantage of the trees. So yeah, I think they're pretty at home up
there. So always keep your head on a swivel and don't forget to look
up too. That's good advice, all right. The next question is from
Ernest Corderio, and Ernest wants to know where. He says, Hello,
Vic and Brian, what is the tallest dog man you've ever heard of?
Oh? Man, the probably I've heard stories of dog men looking in windows
that were nine foot in the air. That's about as tall of a dog
man story that I've heard from my area. Now you get outside of Oklahoma
and you'll hear of getting bigger than that. But to be honest with you,
like eighty five percent of the ones that you hear the stories about are
six or seven foot tall, So I don't think they get anywhere near as
big as a sasquatch. But every once in a while you'll hear about a
really big one, but most of them in my area no bigger than like
nine foot tall. All right. Next question is from j Money and Jay
wants to know where do you think they originate from? Well, that is
a that's a good question, and I mean you're talking about going back to
pre history there. I don't believe that they showed up in a certain area
of the United States and migrated around. I think they've always been here,
They've always been all over the planet. I'd be willing to bet you that
you know they were here before the flood, you know, and proved Aluvian
times, and they survived the flood somehow. Who knows they might have been
on Noah's boat for all we know. You know, you could write a
book on the animals that Noah doesn't mention, that the Bible doesn't mention.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is is I think they've always been
here, and I think they have been They have populated the earth just as
long or possibly even longer than we have, just like the Sasquatch people.
I don't think they originated in a certain area. If they did, it
predates It predates history written history by a long shot, probably all right.
The next question is from a pure normal quest with Vang, and that question
is, Brian Vick, do you think that the dogmen we have now are
descendants from Anubis? I do I think that they are. You know,
it's it's been like a generational thing. I think it slowly moves down.
I believe there's a breeding population now, a lot of people, you know,
point out that Anubis was considered to be a god, and of course
people make the connection of the nephelm thing there, and yeah, I mean
that's another thing. My ears are open on that. I'm ready to listen.
But you know, I think that Anubis was possibly one of the you
know, I don't know, possibly one of the fallen ones, the Watchers
and later known as by many names. But you know, could they be
like a descendant from them, you know, thousand generations later. Yeah,
probably probably, you know, I believe it. Like I said, I
mean, they came from somewhere, and you know, a Nubis is probably
one of the oldest documented dog headed people around. So yeah, it just
kind of makes sense and checks a lot of boxes. What really throws me
for a loop as far as the whole Anubis angle is almost every depiction of
Anubis shows a Nubis with hominid style legs, not legs of a digitigreed leg
structure. So yeah, there are some serious questions to be answered. There
don't have the answers for him, but there are questions, all right.
The next question for you is from West Thierry, and West wants to know
do you think they know your intentions is if one that is dominant or passive,
as if you're one that is dominant or passive. Well, it's pretty
easy to say that when a human runs into a dog man, yeah they're
going to be passive. But I do believe that these creatures can pick up
on, you know, our intentions. I guess you could say there's a
lot of different ways. I mean, you could throw the mind speak thing
in there. Maybe they're reading your mind, picking up on your intentions.
You know, a lot of people say that they can pick up on your
energy vibrations, whether you're a good person or a bad person. You know
that that's on the table too, you know. Or maybe maybe they're just
really really good at reading body language. You know, body language is a
really big deal, and people underestimate the ability to watch someone's body language and
judge what they're going to do or whether they're lying or not. There's a
lot of things to body language that we overlook a lot of times. So
I would be willing to say that it could be a combination of all of
them. But it's hard to say. I believe they can pick up on
our intentions, you know. I'm from the record I think Sasquatch can do
it too, and that puts it puts us at quite the disadvantage. If
they were malevolent, they would just really have us over a bureau. But
thank goodness, all the indicators, at least almost all the indicators point towards
them not being out to get us. Of course there are some deviant ones,
but as a whole, it's obvious they're not looking to wipe us off
the map. And yeah, thank goodness for that. All right, let's
see. The next question would be from C. Phantom W nine and he
says, Hi, vic any comments towards what role may these beings such as
dog men have played I the planets ancient I guess he meant I e.
The planets the planets ancient past, for instance Egypt, God knew this.
Thank you. Yeah, that's uh, well, of course that's all going
to be speculation. But you know, I'm I'm kind of a little left
field on all this, and when it you know, I'm basically a follower
of Christ. I believe in God, I believe in Jesus, but I
also because I believe in what the Bible says, and I don't take everything
that's in the Bible literally verbatim word for word. I think there's interpretation that
has to be involved, but yeah, I believe that the when the Watchers
were originally cast down and you know, God started punishing them, and then
you know, the Nepheleine came around and and all of that stuff that you
you know, can watch a thousand podcasts on I think during all that,
you know, these these creatures, these nephelm and and maybe even the original
Watchers, but the children of the of the Watchers, they spread around the
earth, and I think they came in different forms. I think some of
them, you know, were you know, had the heads of of you
know, different animals, and they just they were just different, and they
took a lot of different forms, and I think a lot of them were
gods, some of the original gods. And so I think it's entirely possible
that, you know, Anubis was literally a nephel of a descendant of one
of the original fault Watchers that happened to have that particular genetic makeup, and
he probably was worshiped as a god because he had godlike characteristics that he inherited
from his angelic heritage. So I mean it's it's possible. There's nobody on
earth today that could prove me wrong. I mean, my answers, I
guess were as good as anybody else's, but you know, everybody gets to
have their opinion. I believe that they were. There was a reason why
they were worshiped as gods. If you could just stab them with a stick
and they die, I mean, they wouldn't really be considered gods, now,
would they. They must have had something extra about them that set them
apart, other than the fact that they had a dog's head, you know,
because we know human nature. If it looks different than us, we
kill it. Well, I'm going to guess they tried it and it didn't
work, so they ended up worshiping it. But I don't know. We
could have a we could have a heyday speculating on this, and I think
it's I think it's a good, clean topic, and I think everybody gets
to have their opinion, and everybody, you know, that's another one of
those things. I'm more than happy to listen to what other people have to
say about those things because I think we can all learn a little bit.
But unfortunately all that information is lost and we won't we won't find out out,
you know, during our time on this earth. That is a really
tough question to answer, really hard, is all right? Got another question
for you from Robin, and Robin wants to know, Brian, is it
possible to communicate with dog men in any way to gain understanding? I hope
someday I might get an opportunity to find out. I've heard of people communicating
with them, and I think it's possible. I think the problem it's kind
of like, it's kind of similar to, you know, an ugly guy
trying to talk to a really pretty girl. You know, the really pretty
girl has absolutely no reason to talk to the really ugly guy. She's not
going to get anything out of it. And I think we're in the same
situation with them. Why would they share what they know with us? You
know, why would they They obviously know things that we don't know. They
have secrets that we're not privy to. Why would they communicate with us?
What are they going to get out of it? You know, they sit
around, they watch us, they know what we're up to. I mean,
they're not going to They're not going to get anything out of us to
communicate with us. It's just going to be a one sided conversation, So
getting one of them to open up and communicate with you would truly be a
rare thing, especially in a longer conversation. But man, that sure would
be cool. And I would love to be put in a situation where I
might be able to open up a line of communication. But at the same
time, I think it's you're you're going to have to be careful, you
know, because they're not going to want to give out information that's going to
be harmful to their species. You know, They've got to protect their own
you know. So I don't know, but yeah, I would love to
be in a situation where I could attempt to communicate with them. That's always
been kind of a deep, dark, hidden goal of mine. So yeah,
h one thing's for sure. It definitely wouldn't be a boring conversation,
would it. Now? That would that would be cool? You think of
a thousand questions to ask. But but yeah, like I said, where
where's their motivation to have that conversation? You know, I don't think they're
much Yeah, good point. That's a good point. All right, got
a question for you from Patrick Reagan, and Patrick wants to know besides sending
messages or dog been able to have telepathic conversations with someone. Yeah, Like
I was saying, the guy that I interviewed from Ponca City, he claimed
that he had communications with him and he was, you know, talking back
and forth with him in his mind and in a meditative state, you know.
And I think the meditative state is one of the key things to this
mind speak and the communication thing. You know. So often people are so
busy and their minds are always racing, and they never slow down, you
know, and they never take time to just kind of quiet their mind.
You know. One of the most powerful Bible verses in the Bible is be
still and know that I Am God. And the key word is is that,
you know, the is be still, you know, sit down,
shut up, take a minute, reflect, be quiet, concentrate, pray
you know however you want to look at it, but you got to relax
a little bit. And that's not something we're real good at nowadays. Everybody's
got everything going, going, going, going, going, busy, busy,
busy, busy, busy, you know. And if we do have
a minute to spare, what are we doing. We're on our phone,
We're playing with this, and we're watching that and constantly being stimulated in our
brain. You know. We never have any downtime where we just turn it
off and unwide and unplugged, you know. And so we were distant from
the ability, you know, meditative type practices before cell phones, and we're
probably about as far as we've ever been at this point in our civilization.
I use the word civilization, you know, with a little sneer in my
tone, but yeah, we're really getting away from that, and so I
think it's getting harder and harder and harder to communicate with us that way.
And for sad part is, I think it's making it harder and harder and
harder for us to have a better relationship with the Lord too. So we're
losing on both both ends. Yeah, that we are. It's hard to
argue that point. Well, it's eight till eleven Eastern time. I'm going
to throw one more question at you here, Brian before we get out of
here. But yeah, before I do, I just want to thank you
so much for coming on and doing this. This is blast. It is
fine. I've had some pretty left field questions, but hey, they keep
me all honest. I like it. Yes, I've been reading some of
the questions. I've been wondering, Okay, how's he going to answer this
one. That's a tough question. Well, this is a tough question.
But you've been doing really well. I'm really impressed. All right. The
last question for you, and it's a pretty good one too, is from
baby Girl Bring Back Zack Snyder, and she wants to know do dog men
run with wolf packs? You know, I've heard stories of that. I've
heard stories of them running with coyotes and having a relationship with coyote packs,
and man, that's that'd be something that'd be really tough to prove. But
every once in a while you'll hear stories of them having you know, these
these other caneine varieties, and even stories of domestic dogs that will run with
them. And I don't really, I don't really see a problem with it.
I mean, it could be possible now if times got tough, you
know, it could always eat them, you know, But it's kind of
one of those things that's yeah. Now, do I think it happens a
lot? No, mainly because there's not a whole lot of walls, especially
in this area. But I have heard the coyotes stories, you know,
them running with coyotes, and you know, there's been people that have reported,
you know, and gotten audio recordings of what could be a dog man,
and of course, you know, the coyotes will chime in sometimes with
them too. I was out at Campton Lake one time, probably three years
ago, four years ago, and we were all just me and some of
my friends were sitting out campfire, and it had been dark for a couple
of hours, and we just heard this deep, loud, powerful how that
was coming from the north and we immediately knew that this was not a normal
how. But about three two or three seconds into it, about the time,
you know, your ears perk up and you're like, whoa, whoa,
this is different. About that time, here comes all these coyotes chiming
in and you know, and drowning out the sound and garbling it up,
and you know, of course we're all looking at each other like we just
heard something, didn't we you know, But it would have been nice that
the coyotes wouldn't have. But I thought it was funny that the coyotes were
comfortable with chiming in with that creature, because I was pretty confident that we
were actually hearing something larger there, and still I'm still confident that that's what
we were here. I wish I had an audio recorder running on that.
But like I said, the coyotes are real about drowning that stuff out.
They'll do that with sasquatch calls too, But it's it's I don't know,
it seems like they have some kind of relationship or but you know, like
not all caneines get along like that. You know, coyotes and foxes are
not friendly at all. As a matter of fact, coyotes will kill foxes.
So but then again, I don't know that a fox is one hundred
percent caneine. I'd have to look into that one. I don't know,
But yeah, i'd totally buy into that, but I don't have any evidence.
When you consider the fact that they definitely do run with coyote packs,
it does make you wonder if sometimes they do run with packs of wolves,
and if they don't, it makes you wonder, Okay, why do they
run with coyote packs but not wolf packs. It's not like they're in any
kind of a danger with a pack of wolves. They defend themselves against any
pack of wolves, So if they don't run with them, then why not?
But then again, as you know, there are so many questions about
these guys that we're probably never going to know. But having said that,
I can't thank you enough for coming on and answering all these questions, Brian,
I really appreciate it. And like I said, this has been so
much fun. Oh yeah, it's a good time. I appreciate you having
me on anytime just to holler at me. It's a good time, you
know. And this is the way I just assume spend my time is talking
about dog Man and tabling good ideas and bounce some ideas back and forth.
And you know, there's nothing like a bunch of random questions to keep us
honest, right, That's right. There have been some really good questions tonight,
and of course you did a very good job answering these questions. Like
I said, some of these questions were almost borderline impossible to answer, but
you just did such a good job answering them. I'm really impressed. And
also too, to all the listeners and the people in the live chat.
I can't thank you enough for listening to the show, for supporting the show,
most importantly for supporting the eyewitnesses what you do. I really appreciate it
so much. And this is all behind the scenes because in most cases the
eyewitnesses wouldn't have a chance to thank you, but understand they most definitely do
appreciate it as well, So yeah, don't lose sight of that fact.
Well, one last thing before we get out of here. If you have
a dog meet encounter that you'd like to speak with me about. It doesn't
matter if you don't want to be a guest on the show or not.
I'm easy to reach. All you would need to do is just go to
Dogmancounters dot com submit a report, and if you do that then yeah,
by all means, I'll schedule a conversation with you and that way we can
find out what's going on with your experience or experiences and we can take it
from there. If you'd like to reach Brian, Brian left some contact info,
but can you give us that contact info one more time before we get
out of here. The best way to get a hold of me is just
to go to find my Red Dirt Cryptid's Facebook page and just look me up.
I'm one of the ad man's. My name's Brian Terrell and just shoot
me a message on Facebook Messenger, all right. That makes it easy.
And like I said, i'll have the link for that in the description for
tonight's show that I'll make it really easy. But thanks again so much for
your time, Brian. As always, if you only knew how many questions
I didn't have time to get to, I don't know what you would think.
I think I got to half of the questions. But yeah, cool,
that's for another day if you ever come back. But yeah, thanks
again so much for your time, and have a great night.