Be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for November
seventeenth, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, let me
help you sort through the world of gaming on Games Morning's Live with Me Jeff
Grubb Today, I'm so sick of these dragons and their dogmas too. An
embracer pretends it doesn't even know Nights of the Old Republic. But first,
please join me and welcoming today's co host the game, Miss Mornings. It's
tomorrowhosseying everybody. Damn, I'm how you do it? It's dregs Day.
I am ready. Indeed, let's pawe I well, I mean dregs can
be a party. Yeah, listen, if you're not going to party during
Dregs Day, what else are you gonna do? You know, it's Friday.
Dregs Day is always Friday, and I have Friday for me is cheap
day, which means I'm gonna eat some food. Is gross? Hell yeah,
actually it's not gross, but it's like, you know, not particularly
great feet. Usually I eat about fifteen to twenty chicken wings for dinner.
Okay, Yeah, that's a good that's a good night. That's a good
che fine, Like yeah, yeah, it's fine, Like it's still chicken,
it's still high protein, right yeah. But like the I you know,
before you start like thinking about what you're eating, it's very easy to
be like it's chicken, it's high in protein, but it's chicken wings,
and like it's fried and it's way more fanny than you realize. Yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, but I still roll with it. It's my one
week like a killer. So you know that sounds pretty good, that's exciting.
That's that's my idea of a party on Dregsteak. I am this weekend
going to be in a city where they have a st market Taco Bell,
and I will be eating the Taco Bell chicken nuggets at Dan Reichert's house.
And I cannot wait to see what this is all about. He's had him
three times, he swears by him, says they're very good. What do
you think of when you hear Taco Bell chicken nuggets. I've never had Tacobo
chicken nuggets because they don't they're only in Minneapolis right now, apparently. Okay,
okay, I've never had meat from Taco Bell because it's but but the
idea of Taco Bell doing chicken nuggets. I understand the the weirdness of that,
and I fear it. I don't know. Having said that, Taco
Bell has, at least for me as someone who doesn't eat meat from Taco
Bell, it's got a robust non meat menu. Like surprisingly, when I
went there for the first time, I was like, this is wild,
Like I've seen vegetarian restaurants that don't have a menu as good as this.
I mean, if you're entertearing beans and chet, well, if you're vegan,
you probably can do this, but if you've justtarian beans and cheese,
is great. They don't take the piss and just do that. They have
like actual vegetarian versions of most of their menu. They do it. It's
like they actually put a little bit of effort into it. Like the last
time I checked, when I went to the one in the East Bay,
the vegetarian menu was the same size as the normal menu. Well, so
it was like, oh wow, these guys actually actually did it. So
on the one hand, I trust Taco Bell Taco Bells, but it takes
something that you would think this is not that doesn't sound good and make it
good. But also the idea of the chicken of them doing chicken, it
seems like it's very antithetical to what I tackle. Bell is. Yes,
I think you nailed it right out of the gate. I fear it.
I fear it, but I also respect it. I fear and respect what
they're doing here, and I'm gonna give it a shot and going to see
how it's gonna go. I kind of can't wait. Yeah, that's for
Extra Life this week, and everybody be sure to tune into that. I'll
be here on giant bomb dot com. I have a request actually place in
one of the documents. But you know, we're currently in the phase where
we're talking about a lot of games that we want to ross in the face,
where we have like seventy five documents too, So please tell me exactly
this is. This is a game that I would like you guys to play.
And I know that Dan's not going to go out of his way to
he'll forget or something like that, but I would like you to put it
on your to do list to download this game and make sure that you play
it. It's a game called robo Dunk. Yeah, okay, robo Dunk,
yes, yeah, so it is you know NBA jam with robots.
Sounds good. There's going to be a bunch of you in the same room.
It costs like fifteen dollars on on Steam. I would like you to
play this game together on the stream, and it will it could if it
goes the way I think it will go, could become a topic of discussion
at the end of the year. During a live show that is happening in
Los Angeles. I get your tickets yesterday because they're sold out. That was
wild. It was whacky. It was like, we haven't announced it publicly,
like we haven't said the tickets on sale, and most of them were
gone, and we were like, uh so, shout out to the community
for showing up for that assively. We're being told they're trying to do more,
but just no promises everybody. It really yeah, honestly your best bet
now if you were really intending to go, maybe hopping the discord, talk
to someone who might have bought an extra ticket. You just don't know.
I would start swapping with community. That might be your best bet right now.
But it is. Yeah, also is genuinely heartwarming to see that.
I was like, like cards on the table, I was worried. I
was like, if no one shows up, you know, I'll do people
want to see us live or you know what, like being transparent for a
lot of people here, we're not the Giant Bomb crew that they grew up
with and know and love in a different way. We're a different group of
people. So I was like, people are going to come out for that,
and it sold out so fast, and it was it was a genuinely
like affirming moment to see that, Oh people doo us as Yeah, well,
I think they appreciate, like, you know, there's a certain aspect
of keeping Flames alive and all that while also doing our thing in our own
way. I think people appreciate that, and it's nice to see. I
appreciate the people who you watch us the dude is out there more than they
realize. Yep. Absolutely, it means a ton, just to like remind
people what we're talking about. December ninth and Moroccan Lounge. This will be
live streamed so you can watch it online. This will be the culmination of
the Game of the Year discussion. Most of those discussions will still happen in
podcasts leading up to this, but this will be the big finale where we
do crown our game of the year. We'll have a couple of topics,
a couple of other things. We'll try to make it as special as possible.
But a lot of it did come together last minute, so it's like
we're doing what we can with what we're with what we have. So yeah,
again, just let's show out, let's hang out, let's have a
good night, kind of wrap up the year and then have a good get
good momentum going in to twenty twenty four and all that. And this is
going well enough that it's the kind of thing where we feel good about it.
We feel good about like the efforts that we put in, and now
it's very easy to tell that story to other stakeholders and be like, let's
try to do this again elsewhere more often, more frequently, bigger venues,
more sponsors that can make all this make more sense. So this just means
a lot. We're going to keep it going, everybody and really looking forward
to it. All right, let's explain what we do here most weekdays,
I, Jeff Greb will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes
breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting for all these topics.
I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who will make me look
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find therss on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the show later
with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, we have
a lot to get into, so let's start the morning Mess with Dragon's Dogma
two showcases coming this month. This is from Jordan Membler at VGC. Capcom
has announced a Dragons Dogma two showcase for later this month. The presentation will
take place on Tuesday, November twenty eighth, and we'll start at one pm
Pacific time. According to Capcom, the stream will show brand new gameplay reveals
in an info packed fifteen minute live stream directly from director Hideaki Atsuno and producer
yoshiaki I. Hear Bayashi. There we go herera Bayashi. The game doesn't
currently have a release date, but it was recently rated in Saudi Arabia,
suggesting a release date may not be far off. And this is we had
a conversation about this on this show, like it's getting rated and we haven't
heard anything about it, so they're going to announce it soon. While this
feels like all of that is lining up, it also lines up with Capcom
saying they were going to have a big game in the first quarter of next
year that they expected to sell very well, and everyone's like, Monster Hunter.
It's got to be Monster Hunter, because I mean, I just did
not think Dragons Dogma two could be coming this soon. What are you expecting
from the showcase, Tam, I mean, like it is Capcom, so
I kind of expect them. Hope. I'm hoping now they so show a
nice big chunk of the game, like the loop even like show show us
what it is that we'll be doing in this game. And but Capcom has
this thing where they're like they're one of the few publishers and developers that gets
away with like just showing up and being really excited and showing a trailer and
calling it there and being like we're doing it, and then that's the point.
I hope it's more than that, but given like the past few have
been similar to that, my hope now is like, here's what it looks
like. And I really think about the potential of a Dragon's Dogma two,
and I feel like I start to like theory craft games in my head.
That sounds way more exciting than anything that they're capable of. But like the
last few years, Capcom has made significant strides in taking the Monster Hunter games
and bringing them to console and whether it's Xbox you know, and PS PlayStation
and PC with Frontier or with you know, the the Switch game as well,
and there's been a lot of like really interesting things they've done there.
At the same time, you know, Eastinosan is known for for his like
action games, and the last Devil May Cry was great in terms of combat.
Like I see this game becoming this nice, amazing mix of everything that
Capcom does amazingly well, like combat action into into and depth filled action game
mechanics and then this kind of like the monster hunting aspect to it. And
the reason I think about it for this game is because that's what Dragon's Dogma
is in a lot of ways, Like you're hunting these beasts in but your
the mechanics of engaging with them are not like the methodical slow pace of Monster
Hunter is closer to something like a Devil May Cry where it's like, you
know, you're bouncing around and doing stuff like that. So I hope that
it's a case of them sitting down and showing us, Hey, this is
what this game is and this is how it's gonna play. Maybe it turns
out it's exactly the same as last game, but like, I want them
to really unpack it and do like a thirty minute kind of gameplay demo with
a breakdown of the systems and have eats and on designers and story stuff in
there and just ready let us, you know, give us the lowdown on
it. And I hope they're like, uh, sorry about that, Netflix
there is we needed to make the cash. Yeah, and we're like,
okay, we get it. We get it, you know, all forgiven.
Yeah, Yeah, I think that I'm right there with you. Dragon's
Dogma two feels like a game where it could simultaneously be this huge step forward
for the series and for Capcom, and it's the story of itself as a
publisher right now, where of course, this is a publisher that's on top
of the world, that has figured out how to get the most out of
properties that were already very popular, and knew how to get the most out
of Resident Evil, knew how to get the most out of Monster Hunter,
and it deserves kudos and credit for figuring that out and making those even bigger
than they ever were before. Dragon's Dogma is a little bit different, where
I think it's a game that people that it has its fans and people do
enjoy in many ways. I remember at the time, people, oh,
this is kind of like what if Skyrim was made in Japan. In some
ways, it's like, okay, yeah, and it's not exactly the right
way to describe it, but I get what people meant by that, but
it didn't. It didn't have that huge impact of a Monster Hunter. And
yet it feels like Capcom's realizing we have the chops to take something like Dragon's
Dogma, a game that was good, that does have fans, and take
it to the next level. If we can just do this and that and
make it feel important, and it feels like they're on the precipice of that.
At the same time, it could just be more of the same,
And I think that in some ways that that also might work to the same
effect, because I think the gaming audience has changed in a lot of ways
where we are just ready we're more willing to accept games that have like weird
Japanese aspects, and she'd be like, you know, you know what,
no, please give us more of this. We didn't realize what we had
when we had it. And now the fact that you're still doing what you're
doing, we are ready to come to you and play the game as it
is. So yeah, it's like, okay, I'm very curious to see
how this is going to play out. I think some people have had a
chance to check the game out. It's to some capacity. I know VGC
went hands on with it a little bit, and that might have been like
when Andy was in Japan. I'm trying to remember if a bunch of other
people played it, but he wrote so far Dragon's Dogma who certainly feels a
lot like the game that has come before it. That we have to bear
in mind that it's still the first playable build at a relatively early part of
the game. As long as it remains weird for all the reasons, it's
reasons it's most hardcore fans have championed it all these years. That's no bad
thing at all. Now, yeah, we've not had a game like Dragon's
Dog lessons Dragon's Dog exactly, So I feel like that that is a big
plus in the in the court. Yes, Now, how do you feel
about this game coming out like relatively soon, because again I still find that
very surprising. I think I remember hearing rumors about this game for much longer
than like when the rumors were like solid right right now. So it was
like they came out and they dude put on the T shirt and that was
it, and that was a little bit ago. There were like whispers around
it before then, like in the lead up to it, for a few
months there were whispers like our Dragon's Documents real, And I think it was
in that Capcom hack and so we kind of for a very long time.
I believe it was in the Capcom hack. Yeah, but I also remember
there being like an extended period of like, you know, there's a level
before the whispers where like people in the industry are like, have you heard
anything of those? One of those? Have you? So, like I
feel like it's been in development a little longer than we might be aware of.
But again, like Capcom, it's weird. Capcom generally, I think
back and Capcom is like I feel like they operate on the same level as
a like a PlayStation where you don't find many of their games like boggy and
unfinished and weird. They like when they're done, the games that they put
out are polished. Whether they're high quality is a different matter, but like,
at least I can't think of very many Capcom games that you turn on
you're like, this is busted. Yeah. Capcom had a weird phase where
like there was typos, they spelled Capcom wrong on the side of a Yeah,
that's the kind of thing, like, yeah, that's what they do,
like that, that's just that's just nice. I like that. I
want them to spell things wrong. Yeah, I want them to accidentally leave
the G and watermark only. Yes, Yeah that was like that's that's the
good ship for me. But I feel like, regardless of when it comes
out, I'm pretty confident that the game that they put out will be solid
and won't be like busted and weird, like even the even the games that
like the Monster Hunter games that even the switch masks on a game where you're
like, how does this fit on this game? Like rock Solid I never
had any issues with it ever. Engine and they it's they know that thing,
man, and they can find games on it, and everyone's like,
god, we can't make our own engine. We're retreating unreal and Capcom's like,
we're good, okay. I mean, obviously Capcom has been doing this
for a very long time, and I think investing in themselves and believing in
themselves has led them to a point where it's like, no, we do
have the people on staff that are the technical wizards and understand the artistic needs
of game designers and developers, and so they're building tools with that mindset,
and it's making all the difference in the world, and to the point where,
you know, the Ari Engine, whenever I see a game made in
that reach for the Moon engine, I am just like, Okay, I
have total confidence that this is going to scale up and down and that it's
going to actually be kind of a technical morvel. And so that has been
a great benefit to their design so that they can express themselves and take on
all these projects and get them out rote relatively relatively quickly, which is why
it's easy to believe that Draggon's Dogma two is actually coming out pretty soon,
because yeah, even yeah, we did hear whispers for a very long time.
These days, it's like, yeah, but I mean those whispers often
often mean, like we're talking four or five six years, and maybe we're
getting pretty close to that. But to have a go from announcement to release
this quickly is opressive, and that does seem to be the case because Dragon's
Dogma, Dragon Dogma. Yeah, Dragons Dogma two's release dates seemingly leaks as
the game is rated in Europe. This is from Tom Ivan at VGC.
Dragon's Dogma two release date will seemingly be Friday March twenty second, twenty twenty
four, my birthday. That's according to Yes gott be forty one baby.
That's according to European classification body Peggy, which is listing the unannounced release date
alongside in eighteen rating for the game. Capcom now appears likely to confirm Dragons
Dogma two release date next week when it holds that product showcase for the PS
five, Xbox Series X Slash S and PC title. According to the Japanese
publisher, it will include that brand new gameplay that we talked about in all
of that. Well, yeah, okay, so this is that big game
from Capcom next year. I mean, it's all the pieces are here that
man we usually have, They usually have one major game in the early.
Yes, they definitely do, and they confirm for sure that they would that
they said they have an unannounced title, and it's like that was I don't
even remember a lot of people guessing Dragons Dragon's Dogma two. At the time,
most guesses were Monster Hunter, but then people had a bunch of other
guests that they could well, it's not Monster Hunter, it's this or this,
and I just don't definitely, I'll call me too, Yeah, yeah,
sure, yeah, the ufol Joe is back and those things before Dragon's
Dogma two, a game that we knew existed, and I just so it's
again a little surprising. But when we lay it all out like you did,
I'm like, yeah, okay, let's go. And the the confidence
to like, we're going to reveal this game in late November basically December,
release it three to four months later. That to me says they know what
they have, it's gonna be big, and this is going to be the
game they expect to sell really well all throughout next year. Do you think
you know, based on what we know now, which is you know basically
very little, that this can be that next big franchise that is a maybe
not on the Monster Hunter tier. Maybe not on the Resident Evil tier,
but the tier right below that. I think it could be on the I
don't think yeah, maybe not Monster Hunter. I feel like the main obstacle
E faces it just doesn't have the like the years and years of refinement and
coming, you know, entry after entry, building up a reputation almost and
having that word of mouth be able to do a lot of the marketing work
for them in the way that Resident Evil and Monster Hunter has. However,
I do feel like it could be Capcom more than any developer has a has
a good chance of like taking something that you'd look at and be like nah,
I don't think that's going to bang and making it like like a real
big success. I think the timing of its release is a big part of
it. I think March is they usually have games come out earlier in the
year, and traditionally it has been when stuff is kind of quiet, a
lot of that stuff, But I don't think March is quiet. I think
there's a well, the lead up to it isn't quiet. I think by
that point Suicide Squad is out, Final Fantasy is out, so there will
be games going. But if anything, that just kind of like serves to
this, you know, warm up the audience in a way to get into
a like a yeah, get into a like a game buying mood and a
game consumption and playing and talking and being in the lifestyle again after the Christmas
break. So I feel like if that game comes along and it's like,
hey, I'm a big beefy boy, I have got a lot of game.
I've got monsters, you can climb up and down and slash with big
swords. Your mates will be here and we have pawn and people will be
like what and no porn a w ns. Yeah, that's what we've got.
And they're really the stars of the show, their ponds. Pawn stars
is actually what we're calling them now. Yeah. I never really played that
much Dragons Doll and I tried it a couple of times, but I would
hear stories of people talking about their their ponds, and I remember think Justin
McRoy calling him his special boy and sending this special boy out to his friends
to do stuff for him, and I'm like, Okay, I got to
check this game out, so I might try to rush in some Dragons Dog
before he called it his special boy, his pamas. I appreciate you tim
oh boy, Okay, you know what, Let's move on. That's a
perfect jumping off point right there. PlayStation Portal has sold out two days after
launch. This is some from Sophie McAvoy at games in This Tree dot biz.
The PlayStation Portal, which launched on November fifteenth, has already sold out
in the UK and the United States. As noted by Eurogamer, it seems
as though that scalpers may have already hoarded a bunch of the supply, and
they're listing it for between you know, two hundred and ninety pounds, with
some reaching over three hundred pounds. Uh yeah, how you feel about this?
This is this is I think this is people More people bought the PlayStation
Portal than I think people even expected to when I first got announced. This
thing is that like had a slow build to the point where like, you
know what, seems like it's doing what it says on the ten and it
looks pretty like it's doing it pretty well. I'm gonna get it. It's
two hundred do yeah. It was a pretty easy conversion for a lot of
people. I think, what do you how do you feel about it?
Before we do that? Just just as for a Karate Tron and then the
PlayStation. Paul or I. It's really weird because it's it's it's a device
that on paper you look at it and you're like do I need this thing?
And and then you get it and you're like, oh, I can
understand how it fits into life. Reviews for this are out right, Yes,
they're out there, so I can say I've been using one and it
is really nice. Like the thing that is the issue is like it can
have very shaky quality. Right. I've had situations where I'm like sitting in
front of my PlayStation on my like blazing fast Internet and it's like three sixty
p and I'm like, well, well, how why, And I think,
like, but I've also had situations where I'm like sitting across the apartment
and it's like crystal clear and I'm playing Yakuza on it and it's a great
time. I think the thing that it really has going for it is is
that like it feels really good. It's like it feels like a premium device,
and it just seems to slot into the way I want to play games
now. Certain games anyway, for example, I like being able to stick
on a show or a podcast or a video podcast or a YouTube video and
just grind out, you know, some stuff in Spider Man for total I'm
going to collect these achievements and I have to pay too much attention. I
can, I can, like, you know, just play these games on
the side. I feel like that as a as a way to enhance your
PlayStation experience is surprisingly compelling. Like it is is something that I can.
I feel like you can see on a shelf and go, oh, you
mean I can play my PlayStation five, like in really good quality without pogging
up the TV. That's and it's in a price point that's I personally,
I look at it and I'm like, that's a bit expensive. I feel
like for the average person, not average person, but like the people who
like buy consoles and games like every now and then, this feels like a
thing that you can splash out on that will have a meaningful impact on the
way you play games. Right, It's not a no brainer for everybody,
but there's an audience out there that I think it's in that no brainer price
range that is mostly acceptable. It could have been more expensive and just that
made sense for anyone, but two hundred twurs it's like there no people there
were like you know what, Yeah, I can make this work. M
yeah, exactly. I I think like also, I think this is the
kind of device that Sony is a little more like measured with its approach,
Like it's it's not like I feel like there's two ends of the spectrum.
You get one which is like the PlayStations, the new PlayStation PlayStation five,
they're like very confident. They're like, we're going to sell a bunch of
these, We're gonna make a bunch of these, We're gonna keep making a
bunch of these, and then we're gonna put it out and that usually works.
And then they have the PlayStation VR where they're like, we're gonna sell
a bunch of these, We're gonna make a bunch of these, and we're
gonna sell We're gonna put them out, and everyone's like notugh acts And that
is the other end of the spectrum, YEP. And this I feel like
it's somewhere in the middle, whether like it feels like the PSP or the
PlayStation VA almost whether like I think we all sell a bunch of these,
we will make a decent amount of them, and then we'll see what happens,
and I feel like with that approach, it's more likely to be a
success than if they, you know, put all their eggs in the basket.
Yeah, let me ask people like darker and say, can you mention
how ugly it is? I don't think it's ugly. Like I come around
my hand, it looks like weird and freakish in pictures. The moment I'm
holding it, I'm like, oh, this is great. This is really
nice. Right the screen sort it melts into your hands because you're just looking
at the screen. Yes, yes, I don't think it's like stunning,
but like I have seen devices that look way grosser than this thing that I
used, used for days and days and like almost every day. I would
have no problems pulling that out at like a friend's house and being like,
whoop, here it is, and they'll go what is that? And then
I'll show them the screen and they'll go, ok, Okay, that's very
enough. It's a really nice I don't think it's an OLED screen, but
it's still very very sharp. I think it's I don't think it's an I
think it's like just a very good like LCD. But it's bright and when
you look at it and you have it in your hands and you realize,
oh, it's just two it's just a PlayStation controller, PlayStation five controllers play
in half. You'll laugh at it for a second, but then be like,
actually the PlayStation controller feels nice to most people. It hurts my hands,
but like I'm a weird case for it. Yeah, but yeah,
I feel like it's it's a really sharp looking device. Yeah yeah, And
I'm I'm like, I want to get one still. I think I was
going to get one, but now it's sold out, so it's like,
Okay, I guess I have to wait and see if I can track one
down. Eventually, I'm not going to pay scalper price. They let me
ask you what we'll move on from this year pretty soon? Oh you got
the two fast two for yours kids out there. There was a time when
like every Nintendo console would launch and they would be supply constrained, and people
were like, this is a deliberate shortage to drum up interest. And you
know, most most of the time, like for most businesses, that that's
that never happens because anytime that there's a shortage, you're leaving a lot of
money on the table to the point where even if you make too many and
you have to like burn your stock, that makes you more money than if
you don't have enough to sell to everyone who wants one. But in gaming,
I do think maybe sometimes they're like, let's just make it limited at
first, build up that hype, especially going into the holidays. Part of
me still believes that conspiracy theory. You think that maybe happened here a little
bit. I don't think it's it's I think it happens, but I don't
think the motivation is to like build up a hype around it. I think
what it is is like, let's be measured in how much we put out
there and then respond to the demands and the demands are and by doing that
they can look at and be like, oh shit, people want this,
and because there's so few of it, a natural side effect is like people
are way more hype for it, and then outside of their control, you
know, the stuff happens where everyone wants one because no one can get one.
But initially I feel like it is is a bit foolish to be like,
oh, they are they are not putting any of these out there because
they know that the people are gonna get They're gonna want it more. I
don't think that's how it works. I think that these do you feel in
this capitalist healthscape that we live in, there's a company out there going let's
less of these for a little while. It's like, I don't think general
and almost never. Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's a balance
of let's not over commit to manufacturing costs, let's see how it is and
best case scenario, our initial run of the cells through completely and we have
a short period of time where people are desperately trying to get one, so
that when we do make them available, it's there and they'll snapop. That's
right. Yeah, the answer is yes and no. And I'm right there
with you. All Right, We're gonna fade black real quick for a break,
everybody. When we get back a lot more news, hanging out with
Tam for dragsday, I see us in. All right, We're back and
embrac Or Boss gives no comment on the status of status of Star Wars Knights
of the Old Republic remake. This is from Zoe Hanley and Destructoid, as
initially reported by IGN Embracer group CEO Lars Wingefers commented during a financial presentation that
he has no comment on the state of the Star Wars Knights of the of
the Old Republic remake. He also states, anything I say to to this
becomes a headline, and of course that's true. The remake of the two
thousand and three RPG Star Wars Nights Seal of the Old Republic was announced back
in twenty twenty one during a PlayStation showcase. Since then, we've received re
releases of two of the games in the series, and then everything kind of
hits. The Rocks re releases didn't go very smoothly, and the intention of
adding restored content to the second game, which badly needs it, was canceled.
In twenty twenty two, Bloomberg reported that the remake might have been put
on hold. This was following the production of a demo which reportedly didn't go
over very well, and the subsequent firing of the art and design director and
people. I remember at that time. Then the rumor was like it got
taken away from a Spire who has done a lot of these Star Wars remasters
and moved over to Saber Interactive. There's been rumors that's moved elsewhere since then.
To. I just want to like clear it up. This game is
not being worked on right now, just full stop. This game is not
being worked on in any way at any studio. Embrace of passays Mariah Carey
when she gets asked about j LO. She's like, I don't know.
I don't know her. I don't know, I don't know who that is.
Yes, exactly, that's a lot of this person is. That's what
a million percent of what's happened here. But yes, I looked into it
a little bit. I mean, I don't think this is news to most
of you. I think you guys can piece this together. If you've been
listening to this and Sony like stepping away and scrubbing mentions of snub Nights of
the Old Republic from social media and YouTube, I think you can put two
or two together there. But just confirm it. This game is not being
worked on right now. You know what. EMBRACA doesn't know fucking anything.
Yes, okay, because the absolute clusterfuck of a situation on this, I'd
like, I I feel like one day someone's gonna do a big, in
depth report on the damage that EMBRAC that has done to this industry just by
rocking up and being like I'm gonna buy everything yep, and then just being
like, oh, we didn't take this through. Here's just a It's like,
let's put there the perspective just how crazy this is. This is the
company that bought Lord of the Rings. Like just they own Lord of the
Rings. Who cares about Lord of the Rings? They have Legacy of Cain.
He said it me, Okay, Weather Ring's straight trash. Next to
the legacy of Kles. I don't disagree with that. Fucking hell like a
set legacy Cane free Sindorler dot com. Send me your emails if you're a
Lord of the Rings nerd, I I like Lord of the Rings and I
respect you, but don't be talking about it next to the Legacy of Kane.
You'll just get a form reply about Legacy of the Kane if you if
you send him that is gonna slip my throw my sleep and you can watch
that live. Okay, this this game's not being worked on right now.
Do you think Embracer Group ever gets around to actually Embracer Group is slowly going
to collapse? Ye? What I think is gonna happen, Like there's no
shot. I feel like someone steps in and maybe even like Disney and goes
give us that back. Now, yes, we will murder fiscally all of
you. So this is the money. We don't forget who we are.
We are Disney. So yes. The only two entities that could step in
our Sony, which had the like co publishing rights. They talked about this
during that that Sony shoecase showcase, made a big deal about it and Lucasfilm
Splash. Disney and Sony seems like they want nothing to do with this.
That seems to be what I've kind of like heard echoes of that of what
they went absolutely nothing to do with this going forward. Yeah, it's not
worth it. It's like they they why why put all that time effort money
into an IP that you don't own? Right, And it's like they could
they could put this like this is a complete random poll, but like illustrates
it. They could take the time, money effort, they would they would
put in that game and split the you know, the the bounties of it
with multiple other developers. Or they could be like, well if we put
all that money in a new unchared game, Like it's like that's entirely they
got no one to split that with. And you know they have success with
like other Disney properties with with like Spider Man. But yeah, but that
like that doesn't like, let's not nor the fact that every one of their
studios are busy already, Like yeah, it starts like spin one up just
to work on someone else's ip. You're one hundred percent right, that's very
unlikely in a situation where they're like, oh, yeah, we'll do some
of the work, we have publishing rights on that. You do the development
work, and you know Disney does a little marketing. Shit, Yeah that's
cool. But if it's like it's us and them, no, thank you
very much. And then for Lucasfilmy, this was appealing to them because it's
like, hey, no Aspire an embracer, they're going to handle all this.
Don't worry, Sony's on board. They're going to handle the publishing.
Lucasom could sit back and work on a bunch of other things. And now
the only reality of this game getting made is Lucasfome completely takes it over and
does all the work themselves to spin it back up. No way this game
ever happens. You know, that's my opinion right now, maybe that changes,
maybe some huge factor comes into play that we're not considering right now.
But as it stands right now, this game is like deader than dog shit,
and it's just very unlikely anyone should ever expect it to come out.
Yeah. I just imagine John Drake, like you know the picture meme of
Wesley Snipes crying with a gun. Yeah, that's how imagine John Drake put
this out of its misery exactly. Yeah, a little bit of a side
tangent to this. Aspire claims Kotor two Switch DLC was canceled because of a
third party object objection. This is from Jordan Midler at VGC. Was it
Yoda, Yeah, it's like like the meme where it's like I could send,
I could send, Yoda's like consent, I do not. Yes,
it sounds like you consent, Yo, You're going He's like, no consent.
No. Uh. Publisher Aspire Media has said that canceled kote Or two
Nintendo Switch DLC, at the center of a class action lawsuit, was down
to a third party objection. The switchport's announcement trailer, which which published a
couple of weeks ahead of its June trug This is your gimmick. Okay,
back there, she's she's nice, you swear. She sounds like she's just
either screaming non stuff or she's singing a very long singing to herself. But
hey, emmy got on the volume to about half. Everyone's worried about you.
All right, Okay, thank you, get out. She's home sick
from school today, so she's just like in her own mood, and she's
like, I just want to make sure she's not like screaming for help.
Back then, you're like a spy, isn't making any DLC for this fucking
game? I mean, can you say, tam, I'm okay now she's
she looked at me like I was a crazy I will have nothing to do
with that. She's going to think you're a monkey. The whole story here
is some third party stepped in. We don't know who, but this is
Aspire trying to get out of this class action lawsuit where they're they're in trouble
for saying they were going to do this. They advertised they were going to
do this and then it didn't come through. Yeah yeah, I mean,
like I got nothing to add to this. It's just like who Wilso wants
this like, well the Coach or two DLC that they were promising was like
all of that unfinished stuff that got cut because they rushed this game out originally
and like Matyrs have her, some have replaced it on PC and people are
like, oh, this does like really flesh out, flesh out the game
in a real way. But hey, if you want that, go get
a personal computer. Stop trying to play this game on the switch. I
mean whatever they advertised it. If you want to sue them, be my
guest. I don't give a fuck. But if you really want to play
this stuff, there is ways to do that and go ahead and make that
happen. I just wish we knew exactly what the story was here other than
this vague third party objection. The Last of Us Part two or yeah,
the Lastest Part two could be coming to PS five. This is from sman
Galiso Similane at Destructoid. As reports of a second season of the Last of
Us circulate, there is also word that a native version of the Last of
Us Part two could come to the PS five. The news comes from PlayStation
Data minor PlayStation Size, who posted a somewhat cryptic tweet that got confirmed later
to be referring to a native version of the last most Part two tim least
surprising anything in the world, right, they makes perfect sense. Yes,
they have a show. They want to have a new version of this out
on the shelves that just as PS five on it, and maybe has they
already updated this game to have like sixty frames per second on PS five,
adding a few other things, putting on a disc having that PS five logo
on it, calling it Director's cut or definitive edition. That's just going to
sell an extra few hundred thousand copies and they love that over there, right,
easy, easy peasy. I do wonder what kind of I wonder now
that they they know the success of Lost of Us the TV show on HBO,
and they know that there's a massive, massive fan base for that,
who is now eagerly going to be looking for Lost of Us two Part two.
I wonder if there's any adjustments they make to more closely link them,
if you know what I mean, Like do they do the do the Spider
Man thing where it's like we changed abby and at least face models so they
look a little more not that extremeption, Like do they yeah, or do
they have like based on the or like the sequel to they hit TV,
HBO show or something some way to you know, get buy in. Yeah,
like with books. We have with books, get adapt to the movies
and then you go to the airport and you see like the people from the
movie on the cover of the book, and they're like, oh, the
book that inspired the movie. I could see that happening. Yeah, that's
what I feel like a lot of the hard work is done by just calling
it Lot of Us, having a Lost of Us with two in it out
there, part two in it, and then feel like part one and part
two all in one, like that's happening eventually already. I feel like the
thing that they could do is like here season one of the show with the
first and second game, like a big Last of Us compendium style thing.
One million percent Yeah, And I mean I think that's the direction Sony's been
trying to head in for a long time, Where're like, hey, we
have this, we have Sony Pictures, and we have the game studios,
and we have PlayStation and all these things should be working together. It's like,
well, it is kind of all working together with the Last of Us,
So how far can you push it and actually take advantage of that synergy.
Yeah, they're gonna find oh, you just stick a you just stick
a you know, a code for season one on HB or something like that
into the game box and be like put stick ernother said get Last of Us
Season one here. Yep. And I think that would be very effective,
especially in the holiday season where people are looking for gifts and like, oh
they love that Last of Us. Yeah, Or I want to give I've
talked to this person about the Last of Us. I'll just give this whole
thing to them and now they can have the full experience. Yeah, Sega
wants to sell five million copies of Persona six in a year. Is from
Alex Hopley, a game reactor. Basically Sega CEO in an interview just said,
hey, we expect this to be the best selling or the fastest selling
Persona and yeah, it should be, right Tam. They've continued to grow
and Persona six Fields like it's going to be the game that comes out.
And when Persona five came out, it was like, oh, this is
a really big deal. Persona six Fields, Like this could be one of
the biggest games of the year, right, Yeah, Persona six, Persona
five was released in twenty sixteen, and by the end of twenty twenty two,
according to a very quick search, had sold around nine million copies close
to nine million copies, so getting a year in a year. But like,
now it has the recognition. It's not that weird, creepy ship that
your anime we'd friend plays. It's the game that everyone knows and loves.
It's been spin off to hell and and now I feel like people are going
to be paying attention to it. I feel like if they come out strong
with another kind of like, hey, we've got another unique esthetic. We've
got this cool like you know, presentation and that kind of stuff there,
and and they do enough to evoke Persona five while making Persona six his own
thing, I think that's very very attainable, like very very achievable. Yes,
And I mean especially if they if they multiplatform it in the way that
they have done with you know, all the other Persona games, if they
if they are out there, like we've got an Xbox version, now,
we've got a Switch version, now we've got a Cloud version, We've got
all these versions ready to roll. I think they're good. Yeah, And
Persona's been the one where it's like Sega and Atlas have been they've been kind
of bad at it for a really long time, or they were bad at
it about getting these games onto all these platforms, and now they say they're
promising to put them out on all platforms as quickly as possible, if not
at launch, and you're right, that will have a huge effect in terms
of them getting what they want here. My question is when do you reckon
we see it? Yeah, I mean I always was like, oh,
maybe we might hear about this game before the end of the year. Tam,
I got a kid crying. I'm gonna go deal with that real quick.
Can you vamp real quick? I'll be right back. I can do
that. My question is when is metaphor Refantasio coming out. That is a
name that I had to google just because it's so bad. That's a name
that's such a game I'm looking forward to. I do love Persona obviously huge
Persona fan. I don't know if you can see it there, but where
is it? Can you see it? Let me zoom out. I'm sure
you can just barely make out you see that there. That's an extremely limited
artwork piece of Joker. That is I believe number one of twenty five and
number twenty five is owned by Lucy, so that's a little bit of law
for you as well. All right, thanks dam appreciate that. Do you
tell everybody everyone's your your dark, deep, darkest secret. Now? I
was telling him how I've got like a super exclusive Persona five joker art piece
that we got from the Persona five art gallery which was in la which was
like just for a couple. We flew down there, so fun story about
that. We actually, me and Lucy flew down there just to pitch the
team on on on letting us come to them in Japan to do like a
a an episode of audiologues on there. We met with Shigan Soji Masan,
who's the artist, and we're like, can we come to your studio and
do this episode of a thing with you? And they would They like looked
at our pitch and me and Lucy are like insanely into persona, so we
had like this very extensive pitch for them, and by the time we were
done, he was like, yes, let's do this is oh fantastic,
and like we bought those pieces there while we were there, so I have
number one and then she has number twenty five. I think, oh it
might be I have twenty five and she has one. Basically we have the
first and last ones either way. Very yeah, that's very very cool.
Yeah all right, let's wrap up the news here. Travis Kelcey tweets revealed
he loved GoldenEye hated call of dookiecrate at koktaker. Who the fuck is Travis
kel Travis Kelcey is mister Taylor Swift? I believe, yes, mister,
this is the guy David Taylor Swift. He's a football player. Another person
is dating Taylor Swift. Yeah, yes, they they come, keep coming
out of the woodwork, tam listen. Okay, so what we was saying
is Taylor Swift is gonna announce a new album soon. Basically, oh yes,
Oh it's gonna be. And there's gonna be a lot of like football
anthems in there. Damn. So wait, let me look at this,
like you are very online? Is this not a very online thing? Is
this something else? Is Taylor Swift in a different universe than being very online?
No? No, I feel like Taylor. I mean this with the
utmost respect. The Swift is out there. I understand your love of this
of this as someone who is terminally online, I haven't basically set up a
fill or in my mind that is like mute Taylor Swift. So I see
Taylor Swift stuff happening and my my brain just filters it out. I I
do not, and it's only because there's so much of it. I think,
Norman Ship. This does feel like normal shit. This is normal ship.
This is like if it's like Taylor Swift is popping off and getting on
some drama, great, I know that stuff. But if it's like,
uh, you know, Taylor Swift is wearing Prada or Taylor Swift is banging
this uh football player, I'm fine, I'm good. I can ignore that.
I personally I am not a super Taylor Swift fan. I feel like
it is the diary of a white girl being sung into a microphone. But
I know people love that shit, which is people play good for you man.
There is a whole chivel bit about it, like if it's a white
girl singing it, you can get away with anything. Yeah, you know
what, some people love that stuff. I respect it. I fear it.
I fear you people. I feel like you're a little bit of a
cult. But if you want to be there. If you're having a good
time and you're not being hurt, go for it. That's fine. I'm
happy for you. I support you. Mike Manadia is this is on a
plane. He wanted to yell at you in all caps. I want that
go toward to DLA. That's what you want, Mike Manotti. Thank you
very much. Tam, all right, we're going back through Okay, this
is the thing that's happening with Travis Calcer right now. People are going back
through his tweets and he's he's kind of like a wild tweeter from like twenty
ten. Uh and this one is just like, I don't know, there's
a whole bunch of funny ones, but this one was from twenty ten January
thirty. First hashtag nineties tweet forget Call of Ki and Halo Galo. It
all started back with Double O seven GoldenEye on the sixty four. These games
just aren't the same book. He deleted this tweet, and Tam, I'm
like, okay, list is he secretly Chadwarden? Yeah? It's what man,
That's like exactly what I imagined in my head. The Chad Warden energy
on this is so he's talking about that triple tam p s triples, making
like sh you're like this that needs like that little control. It looks like
a dill do Travis Kelcey. It's people mad at Travis Kelcey. No,
that's no one's even mad about this because they're like it was twenty ten,
that's like forty years ago, and you get you get the sense that like
he was a dumb jock. And I think what people are doing is like
they're imagining what if Taylor Swift had met him then she would have hated him,
and that makes it more romantic that they're dating now. And I think
so people love this ship sweet though, and I'm deviis Oh did he deleted
the tweet? He deleted the tweet? Yes, ah, man, I
did everything right and they indicted me. Come on that my man tweet.
Come on, Travis, Travis, don't be ashamed. We all okay,
listen. I don't think I've ever said halo gaealo, but we've all tweeted
some ship man. Yeah. Oh boy, all right, listen, let's
we were Chad Warden, he's a people keep saying he's a real estate agent.
Now, could you imagine I check it on him every Now we should
we should get him to do a top ten games for us. I've I
would I might generally try and genuinely try and find this guy. Yeah that
I would love that. And he was like literally good morning because of this,
Like okay, I'm I was looking up Chad Warden stuff on it a
video of him at like a like a Chuck E cheese or like some in
and out where he's just it's just a video of him and his mates having
a meal. He's a normal guy. He's just a normal dude, Like
I think, like he he's weirdly a very good theorical like sched for that
one thing. It was the time and place it was like before like trolling
was widely known people. Chad Wardim was this guy that would just like talk
like a tough dude about how much the PlayStation three was gonna. He was
passively toxic, hugely toxic by today's standard. Like he was like he said,
some ship that one million getting canceled. I'm reading his his his his
history. Chad's first video of the three main video game consoles the PlayStation as
the best selection of games. The Nintendo we controller resembles an artificial penis and
is therefore unfit for gaming that we should copy how to get good games?
Yes, for three sixty selection of games is so lackluster that it may as
well have no games at all. This is then it goes girls Can't do
Ship, which is the bit where you're like what he said, and then
he said five hundred ninety nine dollars the PlayStation three is an easily affordable person.
And then from his third video, Super Mario Galaxy, which he dismissed
as toilet repair based game whose protagonist has entered the country illegally that will make
cry for, which he dismissed for his cowardly portrayal Satan Mari Mario Party series,
which he dismissed for the absence of, among other things, hydroponically grown
marijuana, four young alcoholic beverages, and the sipping of syrup known as the
purple dank. Orden also regards the inability to eat mushrooms resembling characters as disappointing,
referencing psychedelic mushrooms Super Mario Smash propos Ball, which he dismissed for lacking
representation tail discrimination. Yeah, God, Holy it's like people like we're laughing
about this. Now. Back then people were ready scott college campuses across the
country. We're gonna burn this dude in effigy, like it was why we
was that we was annihilating the competition, like it was not even funny,
how bad the Nintendo was pissing on everyone else, and this guy was out
of there acting like it was dog ship. People were so mad because it's
like it's on paper, you're wrong. But he would just be like enough,
He's like there's no black people and smite brothers and everyone be like what
listen, Chad? When he's right, He's right, all right, let's
uh, let's start wrapping this up. I got a poll here and in
a second, actually it's gonna take a second. Get that up, Tam.
Why you tell peoplehere the coun find you what you have going on?
All that good stuff? Oh man, I just think about Chad Warden.
Now, yeah, we have Boncass Revenge is coming up today later today,
which should be fun. I am on that. One of my lives just
turned on on its own. Fine, Oh wow, that's burning you,
Chad Warden. Chad war chats. So we've got that one bonecast Revengeance.
We film. We did a Jeff Jeff, so hopefully that's well by now.
If not, it should be up soon. We uh where did upf
Wright? We had that years today? Yeah, we got T and T
today, right, Yes, T and T on a Friday, Mario Kart
in about an hour. Yeah, Thursday night throw down on a Friday.
Exactly. That's what we're doing because we can Okay, yeah, we're allowed
to and we can do what we want. And then next week is going
to be a short a week, so please forgive any disruptions to to the
kind of content rollout is Thanksgiving, so we're gonna we're not gonna do the
thing that everyone tries to do and be like let's make content extra in advance.
That sucks, man, that's just yeah, I'm really not supposed to
work. It's a fourday weekend, fucking joy. And like the early part
of my career was like no Thanksgiving, no, you gotta there's games coming
out. I'm so glad the industry got away from that, and like in
October, what are we doing? Yeah, so much better. So we'll
be short a week next week, but yeah, we'll still be around.
And then obviously we mentioned it earlier. Thank you to everyone who purchased tickets
for the LA show. Really sweet. Jeff Bechlat and various other people are
working extra hard to speaking to the venue and being like, can we get
more tickets please? Yeah? I think what like transparency. They didn't expect
us to sell out immediately. They didn't know to tell them, yeah,
yeah, yeah. They gave us a very conservative kind of like you know,
approach to how many seats we could have and stuff, which is it
was that capacity basically, but like I and which is understandable considering we've never
done anything like this, and and and it's sold almost immediately. So now
we're like, hey, can we get any like standing? Everything about this
is just so we're kind of lucky to have it because everything came to the
show last minute. Yeah, exactly so, but we are trying to get
more. So the best way to keep an eye on that is to join
the discord. We usually put it in there as soon as possible. We
do message it out earlier and other places, sorry not earlier in other places,
but the discord is where like we are most immediately able to speak directly
to the folks that would be interested and go for it and let them know
that they can buy tickets again. But yeah, we're trying to work out
if we can get any standing room kind of stuff, and it shouldn't be
like tiring. It is a relatively short show, not sure, but like
it's like an hour and a half to two hours. Yeah, so you're
not going to kind of stand but we could use terms of time as well,
So expecting in a ninety minute show, you know, it'll be jam
packed with stuff. But like I worst kitch scenario, it is being live
streamed. Yes, it's going to be. We hope it's going to be
live stream you know, technology permitting, So yeah, you will be able
to see it. At the very least, we will afterwards have an archive
of it up, so you will definitely be able to experience it, and
hopefully we'll be able to get some merch around it up as well to commemorate
it and stuff like that. Yeah. I went to the Gerard Show still
my friend, I don't care what anyone says. At Pax and his thing,
it was kind of just kind of setu pretty similar, like there was
a bunch of chairs, you walked in. You got tickets, but there
was standing room in the back, and I don't know if this place will
have like a bar so and you can kind of lean against or something like
that. That and it's like this is totally comfortable and fine. So hopefully
it works out along those lines. Yeah, And the final the final thing
is there's a new episode of spot On coming out today where Jeff was on
as well once again. Second weekend o Row and we talked. It was
a really interesting, fun conversation. I think we talk about like the game
awards and categorization around awards and whether it might be a little broken and time
for a rework as you check it out. Yep, it was a lot
of fun recording that, so definitely watch that everybody, all right, Paul
from earlier this week yesterday, actually, are you more excited about Suicide Squad
after its re reveal? Ten percent said yes, twenty six percent said no,
and sixty four percent said I don't care about that game at all.
I am still like I know that I shouldn't be, but I'm still like
hopeful for it. I mean, listen, it's rock Steady. It's gonna
be a fun game to play at least. Yes, that's exactly what I'm
going on. I hate that it's basically a games of the service type.
Yeah, I hate that. I wish it wasn't that we shouldn't feel this
way about the next scape of rock Steady. The nigscap of rock Steady should
be like like without caveat, very exciting, and so it's weird there's so
many caveats here. I'm just hoping that, like within that model that I
thoroughly dislike, is a game that is still charming, well written and fun
in the way that they make games like that. They it feels like,
my hope is like they are still the studio that they have always been.
They've just got this annoying you know, executive from Warner Bros. Being like,
you have so make this a game that can never stop being played.
Yeah, and I hopefully comes down and we all play. You know what
this is. It's just a good time. Good listen to me. If
it works out like the Avengers game. I know that's like said like the
Kiss of Death, but it works out like the Avengers game, where's like
playing this through by yourself or maybe with friends for a little bit. It's
a really good time, dude. And then it doesn't just it doesn't survive
as a life service after that, I don't give a fuck. Yeah,
yeah, I don't care. Yeah. I played a ship ton of Avengers,
like with me and Greg Miller and Goldfob and a few others as well.
Like we would jump in here and there and play it together and it
was it was a fantastic Lucy would jump in for one session and realize that
she could not play it. It was like, I'm done. But yeah,
it was fun. I had a good time with Avengers. It was
just like it just failed miserably as a live service game. And if that's
what happens with this and the quality is like a little bit better, yeah
fine. I like I looked at that trailer. I watched both those twenty
minute things and I off multiple times and I was like, that's that's funny.
That's good. Like the King Shawk wearing a little green riddler hut.
I like that a lot. I'm sold, man, I'm sold. Yeah,
I don't know. All right, new poll for Monday. We will
be back Monday. I talked to some Scottish dude says he tried to take
your spot today. He's like, can I be on the show today.
I'm like, get out of here, Jordan mid He's like them busy for
months, like writing guides or something, trying to make money for our website,
and like you discussing me to up me. Uh huh. And I'm
like, yeah, I damn house. Uh huh. So I said,
come on Monday. It's so Jordan and me we're be hanging out on Monday,
where we will discuss would Taylor Swift have enjoyed playing Golden Night with Travis
Kelcey Yes or no? Go ahead and absolutely no. Taylor Swift is picking
all job and still losing. I think she went at a real miserable time
with that. Uh and and then uh and then when she got together with
him later it would have been and everyone like, oh okay, boy,
Tam already wrapped up. We have going on the site here on Giant Bomb
everybody. So instead, what I'm gonna do is say, Tam, thank
you for hanging out with me today and talking about video games. I really
appreciate it. Thank you for having me. I love Breaks Day, I
love Jeff grab and I love you all. Love you, Tam, love
you all. You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have
a good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye. Good Bye,
good friends, goodbye, it's time to go. That is bearing the Big
Blue House the Goodbye song. That's pretty good stuff.