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I'm gonna run right out to the
KOA Commas Sparrel hotline. My boy,

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Eric galco director of the Shrine Game, former director scouting for the x FL.

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Eric, how you doing to see
me? Good money? How you

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doing? I'm doing great? Man. We Uh we got some Shrine Game

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alumni out of this draft, whether
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I guess with some of the udfa's
First off, well, can you tell

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us about the edge rusher Ellis out
of Utah and what he I mean,

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obviously I don't think you get the
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the injury, but what he is
as a person and uh, and then

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some of the other guys we got, like Blake Watson, Yeah, with

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Joan Allis as a person, I
made very clear company football background. High

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football IQ smart, intelligent can play
a lot of spots early on too when

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as a player flip three, high
motor edge rusher can really make some plays

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on the perimeter as a wide nine, coming inside, stunding inside to so

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kind of a complete guy that you'd
love to have as your third edge rusher

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early on in his NFL career because
you can make your other headdressers petting your

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in your defensive line room and has
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the future too. So it's a
great value at the back end of the

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day too. When you know,
it's funny because Ellis is, you know,

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football family. Obviously, his father
was the Super Bowl uh fifty team

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chaplain for the Broncos, played here
for a minute, they played to the

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high school ball here, and he's
got brothers all over the league, like

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three of them. They're like the
I guess the Elysis are like the mccaffreys

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of defense when it all all comes
down to And I asked him, I

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asked Jonah. I was like,
look, man, with how many guys

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you guys got in the league.
You guys have a sister somewhere that's like

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a rocket scientist. That's the family
disappointment. Uh. And he's like,

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now she's playing safety for the Jets. So I guess, uh, you

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know, I guess uh, I
guess their family is maybe defense doesn't get

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what what the offense does in terms
of royalty like that, you know,

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with the with the lineage. But
uh, he seemed like a sharp,

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well spoke. What did you choose
him for the shrine game? Yeah,

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he's a guy we invited early,
and like you mentioned too, he was

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un will be fully healthy for the
time in the Shrine Bowl two. And

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you know my philocity is we don't
invite players because they get hurt one hundred

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percent. So he's the guy that
we we love as an dresser for the

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NFL. I think a lot of
schemes with value him as well to any

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guy. I think he's not a
power rusher on a guy you want coming

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off the edge of just bul rushing
instead of the edge like other guys in

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this class too, But if you
want a slippery highim on a edge rusher,

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I think every Gonna Tell team wanted
that guy in this draft class with

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a somewhat weaker edged class. Overall, funny guy like Ellis who was a

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slam dunk third edge rusher for any
defense think would be a number two guy

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and maybe number one guy in time. I think was a great value.

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Yeah, I love love the idea
of him opposite Nick Bonito and rotating it

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with you know, with Baron Browning
and Jonathan Cooper. Well, we'll see

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how that works out. We did
get some some undrafted guys from the Shrine

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Game as well, I know we
obviously drafted the running back Audri guest to

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me out a Notre Dame, but
paudfa Blake Watson out of Memphis for three

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nine forty guy, but he's in
speed. As the Broncos continue to stockpile

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that running back room, what can
you tell us about Blake Watson out of

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Memphis? Yeah, not just come
to the Shrine Bowl guy. I think

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he was maybe just probably the most
surprising UDSA running back talking to teams after

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the draft too, and I think
he had a lot of good offers to

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go elsewhere, but a guy that
off film. Every area scout him a

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lot. The only question they had
was what's this time seed going to be?

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And then he ran a four and
foward as Brody also jumped I think

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almost eleven feet in the broad jump
in at thirty eight plus inch vertical.

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So a really really good athlete who
just really looked at times on film like

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Antonio gets it at Memphis. I
mean, a really dynamic guy who could

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do some receiver stuff come out of
the backfield. He gives that for as

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a pass blocker and a really dynamic
athlete, and I think he you know,

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the Trian bole two is great that
we could practice and out of the

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backfield stuff and as a pass blocker. And I think he's the guy that

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if you get him on prize squad
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But I wouldn't be surprised at all
if he really plays a role in this

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running back room by the end of
a key year. He's a high character

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guy who will do anything for the
team, can return a little bit if

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need be as well, And I
got a guy I think a lot of

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NFL teams were surprised at Foot out
of the draft because a lot of area

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scouts really really liked them. Yeah, and I think there's I think that

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the Broncos are paying a special emphasis
on special teams in that new kickoff rule.

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He could be one of the two
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well in the active roster. The
one question I had for you really about

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him is what is he like in
past because last year when they put speed

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on the field with Julia McLoughlin,
he was just undersized and did not have

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the ability in pass protection. When
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knew what was coming. Is Blake
able to at least do something even at

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a buck eighty nine. I think
importantly he's going to give effort. He

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is a guy that I think will
walk in the door and be willing to

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do whatever he has to to make
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The Shrine Bowl. Is that his
strength, No, But he handled

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our linebackers pretty well and we had
some two hundred and thirty five round,

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forty pound guys, Guys like Lavelle
Bailey, who also was the PFA for

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the broadcast, was there blitzing,
and Blake held his own, And I

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think that can come in time.
Obviously, adding some more weight getting a

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one ninety five can help them there
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than McLaughlin. He's not going to
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I wouldn't call him a win and
pass protection, but I think in time

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he's a guy that gives a lot
of effort. And you know Ben giving

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effort as a pass blocker sometimes half
the battle. Well yeah, I mean,

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you know Sharp when he was a
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as a converted receiver, just said, you know, efforts half the battle,

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and so I think that applies,
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board. One of the guy where
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we get some of these others.
He was Omar Brown out in Nebraska.

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Six foot two, a one four
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transferred to Nebraska, really got himself
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What can you tell us about Omar
Brown? He'll play both safety spots,

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can do some hybrid stuff as well
too, can fly in the nickel and

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a pinch of him as well too, But really high football, like you

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the Nebraska program and Matt Rule obviously
you know didn't recruit that kit too much.

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But a guy they were loving that
program as well too. He was

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the guy you called Nebrassa's coaching staff. That was a guy they rid about

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as a person, as a character
and obviously a common beat in lebroncos udfas

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and draft picks were high character guys. I think he fits that bill entirely

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too. So what he's on the
roster day one because you can do some

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new kickoff real stuff and play those
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or he's a practice square for a
year. Two. He's a player and

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in a lot of area scouts like
him a lot too. Like Blake Watson,

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and I think he's a guy that
they stole as a PFA because he

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can be your third safety board safety
in time for sure. Yeah, and

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that really is a hallmark of what
George Payton and especially but it also Sean

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Payton have tried to do high character
guys with high intelligence. You look at

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of course, the kid that got
near the end of the draft, the

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offensive lineman out of South Carolina who's
whose name escapes me, but his haircut

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goes on in my mind. Yeah, I go to, well, that's

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right, his his hair lives on
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from Yale in economics and political science. I mean it just goes to show

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that, you know, how they
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mentioned one of the other guys from
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Yeah, Lavelle Bailey, that's right, Laville Bailey, Yeah, linebacker Presno

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State. He had an incredible I
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Presno State and really has great ball
skills as a coverage guy. But really

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getting into box linebacker who's an underrated
athlete too, and I think would hurt

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him and maybe not being a draft
because a he wasn't of the combine and

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b he didn't really test as well
as he could have, but he played

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a lot faster and more explosive on
film. And I think he's a guy

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that has some sneaky coverage ability that
again, he did a breach up of

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Presno State this year playing against some
of the Power five teams, did an

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awesome job working in space. He
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too. So I think he's kind
of a playmaker and a guy that they

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again, if he makes a roster
that'd be the greatest at PFA too.

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But he's the guy that will give
a lot of compition and came too.

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And I bet he has a couple
of really big plays in camping and preseason

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because he's a he's a gamer and
a guy that steps up in the big

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opportunities. To get a President's Day
for sure, Well he's gonna have an

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opportunity because the inside backer. You
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backer spots are in a bit of
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you got Alex Singleton, who they're
paying, uh, Cody Barton, you

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know, I mean he's kind of
a step slow. I know, He's

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supposed to be the Josie Jewel replacement, but that's not a sure thing.

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Jonas Griffith has battled injuries, justin
Sternad has battled injuries. Drew Sanders has

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been more of a tweeter. Uh, So Bailey has a real shot I

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think at getting this. His competition
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then of course Alec Mack as well. So it'll be interesting to see what

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he's able to do there. Corner
shift gears a little bit when we're looking

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at this draft where first of all, were you surprised by what Atlanta did

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at eight? And what did you
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after paying a hundred million the kirk
Cousins. No, I was the one

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who knew was gonna happen. Then
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I was. I was shocked by
Pennix, And you know, I think

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it's I always tell people too,
you can you be mad at it,

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or you can assume people in these
decision making powers are smart and why would

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they do that? And I think
what that move kind of signals is the

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Falcons GM and hopefully ownership is on
board to two saying hey, we're going

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to invest a lot of resources into
the most important position. And I think

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if one of Kirk Cousins or Michael
Penix really works out, then in five

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years we'll look back and say it
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the only downside is that it kind
of works out in the middle and it

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looks like you may have wasted both
Kirk Cousins and Michael Penix's development as well

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too. So I think everyone think
get one around. Lee was pretty surprised

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by that. I don't know any
team that told me, yef we had

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that Narmock draft, and hey,
I bet Spencer Ratley's my mom too,

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because he was going to be a
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So I think a lot of people
were surprised by that pick. I

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think for good reason. Well,
I was talking to sorry to a good

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buddy your report. We were chatting
before the draft or whatever. He had

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mentioned, you know, the Pennix
Falcon thing, and we were both kind

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of laughing about it, like not
being serious, you know, not realizing

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that that was going to end up, you know, kind of becoming a

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thing. I get it from the
one perspective. I get it from the

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ideas that you're never going to be
picking this high again if you've got Kirk

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Cousins and you're in position to do
it. I don't get the Jordan Love

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comparisons because the age gap there is
wildly off. But I sort of conceptualize

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now having taken a step back from
it, what they did there. Uh,

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the Broncos take Bonix at twelve.
I know you weren't the biggest bone

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Knicks fan, but what can you
tell us about bow and he'll be competing

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with Zach Wilson, Cherifs Stidham and
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in Denver. You know, I
think it's you know, the Pennix dynamic

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is for God's whe you think of
Michael Pennix. I think the decision could

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be questioned. I think I did
the Broncos. Sean Payton knows quarterbacks,

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he's on the whole career, and
if he thinks Bonix is good, who

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admire anybody to think that maybe not? It'd be a good pick as well

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too. And if you'd like the
quarterback I saw some stuff before the draft

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bot maybe trading back and getting Bonix
if you think Bonnicks is the first round

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quarterback, you should be looking my
trading up, not trading back to go

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get him. So I think if
they think he's the guy, and a

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lot of comparisons to Drew Brees or
whoever else Sean pagnsid before are great too,

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it's a lot of pressure on bo
now, and I think the questions

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NFL teams had around the league about
bo was kind of what's the upside?

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Right, is a guy that can
be a guy that's going to make your

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receiver room better, a guy that's
going to be able to make plays when

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the offensive line is not there.
I think that's what you want in a

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first round quarterback, especially for a
Broncos team that didn't have a lot of

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draft access this year either. So
I think it's not as about his boat

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going to be fine, that's you
hold to be a first round pick,

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but he's got to elevate that young
receiver room, make Marvin Mims better,

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make that pass touch, and they
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better for the future too. Be
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answer the question that the Broncos them
confident Bonus can do. So I think

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if you thought he was your quarterback
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best quarterback in this draft class.
That's a good value to get at the

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twelfth overall pick for the never Broncos
team looking for the franchise quarterback. And

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I'm going to put himself in a
little bit of pickle here because they entered

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the draft and everyone knew they had
a draft somebody and they kind of leaked

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out. They kind of like Bonus
quite a bit too, so I think

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they had to make their move at
twelve. And if he's the guy,

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it's a great pick. Talk with
ericco, director football Operations player personnel at

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the Shrine Bowl, also used to
be the director scouting for the ex FL.

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Who's somebody that after this draft has
passed, that the udfas are mostly

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signed, Who's somebody that nobody's really
talking about that you expect to make an

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impact in the league this year.
That's a good question. Yeah, I

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would say one guy, and from
a Broncos standpoint, that we didn't talk

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about actually putting the Shrine Bowl too, that I know the Broncos likes quite

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a bit, and that's Jordan Miiller, their nose tackle. I think the

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Broncos have a defensive front seven that
is going to have some transition the next

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year or two, as you well
know, right, and that some guys

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competing as well too. But if
they really like Jordan Miller, I think

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he's an impact nose tackle has in
comparisons around the league, the guys like

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Tank Johnson kind of undersize and high
motor, high effort, no cycle as

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well too. But you know,
I think in this draft class, a

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lot of teams felt there are about
two hundred and fifty three hundred guys that

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they liked that. I think that
a lot of teams spend a lot of

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money and we're very proactive and getting
top udfas, and I think even though

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it's a weaker draft class, don't
be surprised if some of udfa's include some

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guys on the Broncos make the roster
and contribute. You know, we had

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Ivan Pace a year ago with the
Minnesota Vikings. We had Jack Sandborn the

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year before with the Chicago Bears,
and a couple more guys as well too

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that I think a lot of these
udfas the top here what especially get a

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chance to contribute. So hope if
I has a couple of udfas make rosses

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and play early on despite it being
perceived as a lesser draft. Bust Eric,

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last question here I got for you. I think everybody knows about Carson

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bach schador quhen you were, you
know, the top more of the top

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quarterbacks. But were some guys that
people should have their eye on this season

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that could be rising as it heads
into next year. People do know Sagar

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Sanders, right, he is a
well known guy, especially in Unick of

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the Woods too. No, I
would say Dan Mood from the Washington State

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quarterback going to Miami of Florida.
He's a guy that got to know quite

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a bit the last year and a
half two years and was coming to the

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Shrine. Bull if he came out
this year as well. But he's at

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Miami now and talking to Cam you
know, I think talking to him from

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the league, he would have been
probably the quarterback draft, but after bo

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Nix, right, if there was
the checkon round, third round, whatever,

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but he was that kind of next
guy and maybe competes further going through

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a draft process and he said I
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And he goes to Miami and they've
got a ton of weapons, but that

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they kept at school as well can
transfer, so he's got a great offensive

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line, just got a new running
back in the transfer portal, whole bunch

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of receivers. Like it's also up
for cam Ward and Miami to have an

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awesome season. If they go eleven
and one or twelve and zero, gam

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More might be the guy that's at
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be interesting. I'd certainly love to
see him make that kind of leap like

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the Eric, always good to talk
to you, looking forward to the Shrine

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game and then all the tweets you
put out on on Twitter and the prep

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leading up to look forward to seeing
you out there again next year. Thanks

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so appreciate man. Absolutely take care, Eric Galco