WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:27.320 All right back with you on XS and Bro second hour of the show, 2 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.559 Glad You're with Us Monday through Friday six till nine. We're on throughout the 3 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.799 Great State of Michigan. In Grand Rapids WMAX ninety six point one FM, 4 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:41.640 The Game Run in the Cadillac WKD, The Ticket ninety three point seven FM. 5 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:47.000 In Flint WTRX Sports Extra thirteen thirty, Grayling and Gaylord Up North Sports 6 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.920 Radio w GRY one on one point one FM. In Midland Sagging on Bay 7 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.560 City w l u N one hundred point nine FM, The Mitt We're with 8 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.200 you in Potoski and Charlotte Boy w MBN one oh four point seven FM, 9 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.879 The Ticket Northern Michigan and Traverse City The Ticket on WKAD ninety three point seven. 10 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.120 Ben is our producer. You could call him on the Meyer Hotline eighty 11 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.120 sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You can text him and 12 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:18.079 then he'll jump those types of comments into the conversation on sports Radio to twenty 13 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:21.959 one thousand. Just text Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. I'm ma Att 14 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.000 Sheppard. The Toronto Blue Jays are one of the biggest, I think the 15 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:32.359 biggest disappointment in baseball. So far, they are twenty and twenty five. 16 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:38.959 They are a minus forty six in run differential. They score the second fewest 17 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:48.319 runs, they allow the seventh most challenging combination. Their general manager is Ross 18 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:53.200 Atkins. He said, I believe in this talent. There is time left, 19 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.079 but there's a massive sense of urgency and we need to get it turned 20 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:02.239 around soon. It's the quarter pole. Once you get to the halfway mark, 21 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:07.199 there's not much you can do if the whole remains the same or see, 22 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:12.599 you are always prepared for any angle or any pivot that you have to 23 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:17.520 make. That's the general manager of the Toronto Blue Jays, who sit last 24 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:23.599 in the American League East and eleven and a half games out. Here's the 25 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:29.879 difference. You may want to hear something like that from Scott Harris. You're 26 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:34.520 not going to. Here's the difference. Toronto expected to compete. Harris told 27 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:40.879 you before the season that they're not necessarily there yet. The difference is Toronto 28 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:50.879 has their core group. They have the guys they expect to be able to 29 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:58.520 win with Vladimir Guerrero Junior, Bob Baschett, George Springer, Dalton varshow younger 30 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:05.680 guys now, maybe not Springer as much, but the others Guerrero Junior, 31 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:13.039 Bishett var Show, a guy like Cavin Bigio. Those guys are expected to 32 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:22.240 be the core of that team moving forward. And right now you throw in 33 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:34.400 the different pitchers Kevin Gosman, Chris Bassett, Jose Barrios, husekkuce alec Manoah 34 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.960 has not been good for the last two years after being an All Star a 35 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:46.240 few years ago. So there's the difference. The other difference is this as 36 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:53.919 a team, they spend two hundred and twenty six million dollars. They are 37 00:03:53.120 --> 00:04:02.919 ninth ninth in all of baseball in payroll. There's your difference. The Tigers 38 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:06.280 are about one oh four, one four, one six in that range. 39 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:16.120 Think of that. That's a Toronto team that spends more than twice as much 40 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.720 as the Tigers, and yet they have three fewer wins. Now, it's 41 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:26.680 a different schedule, so let's not get too crazy. I don't know where 42 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:33.199 you sit on this in terms of spending money. The belief is you've got 43 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:42.439 to spend money to win. Cleveland spends ninety three million folks their payroll and 44 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:51.759 they're doing just fine. They're rolling right now. Good for them. Somehow, 45 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.720 some way they are able to do it. They find a way to 46 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.560 get it done. Think of this, the Chicago White Socks, worst team 47 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:05.279 in the division. Without a doubt, you could argue the worst team in 48 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:13.079 baseball. Fifty million bucks separates Chicago and Cleveland. Think of what you could 49 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.279 do with a fifty million dollars in a one year span. You know, 50 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.079 I'm not talking about the length of a contract. I'm talking about this year 51 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:26.199 White Sox spending about one forty nine one fifty if I can round up to 52 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:33.560 the ninety three for Cleveland, more than fifty million. Think of this. 53 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:41.120 The New York Mets, they spend a boatload of money. They're under five 54 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:46.519 hundred. They're paying seventy million dollars to people who aren't playing for them. 55 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:56.800 Oakland plays sixty million to pay the guys who do play for them. Six 56 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:05.839 Dodgers. The Dodgers play in a really competitive division, right and San Diego 57 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.120 is supposed to be good. San Francisco's got a high payroll. Arizona reached 58 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.560 the World Series a year ago, so going in you thought it was a 59 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:19.480 pretty competitive division. They spend three times more than four other teams in all 60 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:26.160 of baseball. They are paying six players with guaranteed right contracts. Six of 61 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:33.439 their players with their guaranteed contracts made one point eight two billion dollars. The 62 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:42.720 Baltimore Orioles sold for one point seven billion. That'll tell you something, doesn't 63 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:48.000 it. I mentioned the San Diego Padres. There are at five hundred. 64 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.800 I said in the last segment, you want to ticked off fan base, 65 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:59.480 shouldn't it be San Diego? Absolutely? They slashed their payroll eighty six million 66 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:06.959 and still spend one hundred and sixty two million dollars. Did I tell you 67 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:12.680 that Tigers spent about one four to one oh six. This is before all 68 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.959 the taxes and stuff like that, so it might be bumped up just a 69 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:20.879 little bit, but not much. It's still well under the lower half. 70 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.319 Phone number on the Meyer hot line eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight 71 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:35.160 forty three. It's interesting because of this. In football, Lions fans across 72 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:42.120 the state, across the country, what did they do? They blamed the 73 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:51.319 Fords. I heard it for decades. Get rid of ownership. They don't 74 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:57.079 spend the money, which is not necessarily true. Under Rus Thomas. They 75 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:03.560 didn't spend money. They were so cheap. They squeaked under Russ Thomas. 76 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.800 But once he left Chuck Schmidt they spent money. They didn't spend it the 77 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:20.199 right way. How come nobody says that about baseball? Why were the Fords 78 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:30.360 the ire of so many people's passion? But in baseball when the Tigers have 79 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:37.159 such a low payroll, Remember they used to have one of the highest under 80 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:43.000 Mike Ilich. They used to have one of the highest. But for some 81 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:48.519 reason, nobody says a thing about this low payroll. Why is that? 82 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.559 I don't hear that conversation when we hear about the Tigers. What do we 83 00:08:56.639 --> 00:09:15.320 hear Torkelsen, Hinch, Harris in that order? Haven't heard one person this 84 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.320 year that I can recall. Ben Stop me if I'm wrong, who has 85 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:26.919 complained about the spending. 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He's itching to take your phone call at the Myer hotline eight sixty 112 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.279 six eight three eight forty eight forty three. I know we got some techs 113 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.919 Ben, let's get to him. Yeah, we got one. It says 114 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.879 Dan Snyder and Mike Illich in the past are proof throwing money at teams doesn't 115 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:56.200 buy championships. The two thousand and two Red Wings team was one exception. 116 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.559 Well, I mean before that, the Wings spent plenty of money. What 117 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:09.960 do you think? Here's what I want to know from people is getting there 118 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:15.240 good enough. I mean to prove that money works. So Dan Snyder's a 119 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.279 really good example. Cleveland Brown spent a lot of money Miles Garrett at times 120 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.559 when they had Miles Garrett and Baker Mayfield and they had Odell Beckham, I 121 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.960 mean they had a high payroll. Dallas Cowboys Jerry Jones Is won in the 122 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:33.440 past right with Jimmy Johnson, won a couple of Super Bowls. They spend 123 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.440 a lot of money every year they don't win. What about the Dodgers. 124 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:50.799 Traditionally Dodgers, Matts, Red Sox all spend a slew of money. The 125 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:56.360 Dodgers historically top five in payroll, one hundred wins each of the last three 126 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:03.399 seasons. Lost in the NLDS, got swept, lost in the NLDS in 127 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:09.559 four games, lost in the NLCS. They won a COVID shortened World Series 128 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:16.200 in twenty twenty. Now they have been to the World Series in eighteen and 129 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:24.320 seventeen I believe lost them both. Making the playoffs every single year since twenty 130 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:33.080 thirteen is really impressive. Having one championship considering the cost of their payroll, 131 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.600 is it all that impressive? I'd love to be having my team in the 132 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:45.440 playoffs every single year. That should be the expectation, especially in the AL 133 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:52.440 Central, that should be the expectation. But they've got one championship during that 134 00:13:52.480 --> 00:14:00.639 stretch, and it was a sixty game season, folks. Is that enough 135 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:05.279 for you? That's what I wonder. Do you have to get there? 136 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.120 Do you have to make the playoffs? You have to get to the World 137 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.919 Series? You have to win it? What is it that satisfies you? 138 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.919 And I'm sure a lot of people right now are kind of nod in their 139 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:18.799 head saying, look, I'd just be happy to make the playoffs again. 140 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:24.039 That would last for what a year or two? Then eventually you're gonna go 141 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.519 come on, man, I mean you gotta win. I want them to 142 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:35.559 win. I'll get satisfied when they won a World Series. I'll get satisfied 143 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:41.000 when any team in this Detroit market wins a championship. Then I'll be happy. 144 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.559 Now with teams that win fourteen games in the NBA missed the playoffs for 145 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:52.240 an eight straight year. In the NHL, can't win arguably the weakest division 146 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:58.480 in baseball, and until this year, struggled to make the postseason into the 147 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:05.799 NFL. It's a Midwest mindset. It's what I love most about this area, 148 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.519 but it's also one of the things that turns my stomach. Sometimes. 149 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.840 You don't want to be the jackasses from way out east. You don't want 150 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.000 to be the people out west who don't seem to care. You want to 151 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.320 be the people who are nice where you raise a family in the Midwest. 152 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.840 And that's all fine and dandy, but you know what, you're not winning 153 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.720 championships, you're not playing for championships, and in most cases you're not even 154 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:39.759 playing in the postseason. That's frustrating. That's ridiculous, and it's got a 155 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:46.120 change, and it changes with our mindset in general. So that's what I'm 156 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:52.879 wondering we're going to complain about. Well, that text Mike Eilich and Dan 157 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.240 Snyder, they spent money and didn't win. You're right, I mean, 158 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:03.120 Mike Keilich would argue, you know what they do win. They won divisions, 159 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:11.360 and they won American League championships, and they reached the World Series, 160 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.080 but they didn't win it all. So if they're in lies of the frustration, 161 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:21.039 he lost money at times with the Tigers. Did you enjoy that period 162 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:29.240 of time in Tigers baseball or this period in time of Tigers baseball. It's 163 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:37.559 interesting that that's the name that's brought up Houston. Look at how often they 164 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.559 have been to the World Series. Look at how good Houston, the Houston 165 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:49.480 Astros have been, I would say recently, one of the model American League 166 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:57.480 franchises. Right, They've been to the playoffs every year since twenty seventeen and 167 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:02.399 since you know, they missed it I think in twenty sixteen, but they 168 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:07.200 made it in twenty fifteen. They've got World Series titles, two of them, 169 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:15.599 twenty twenty two, twenty seventeen, they have two championships. Then they've 170 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:23.279 played in two other World Series, lost in twenty twenty one and lost in 171 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:33.799 twenty nineteen. Last year, twenty twenty three, Jim Crane talked about money. 172 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:41.119 They didn't reach the tax threshold, the luxury tax. People in Houston 173 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:48.160 were really upset. This is a team that last year lost in the ALCS 174 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.799 in seven games, won the World Series prior to went to the World Series 175 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.880 the year before that. They had a stretch of going to the World Series 176 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.400 in three out of a four year span, and fans were pissed off at 177 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:12.799 their owner for not surpassing the luxury tax that's in Houston. Meanwhile, here 178 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:23.000 in Detroit haven't sniffed the postseason since twenty fourteen, haven't been above five hundred 179 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:30.720 but once during that stretch twenty sixteen when they were eighty six and seventy five. 180 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.599 That's what you got right now. I don't hear anybody talking about the 181 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:48.839 ownership. I hear people bitching about Javier Bias and Spencer Torkolsen and aj Hinch 182 00:18:49.880 --> 00:19:00.400 and Scott Harris or hitting coaches. What the hell are they doing hitting? 183 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:08.160 Let's spend it some money on some guys. You're making it, am I 184 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:14.279 wrong? There? You're making a lot of money. You got people going 185 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.680 down there for attendance last year one point seven mil. Year before one point 186 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:25.240 six mil. What people have told me, you kind of need about two 187 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:30.400 million to break even. They had two million in twenty seventeen, and they 188 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:37.799 were sixty four and ninety eight. Their attendance was two point three million fans 189 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:42.920 in this area, two point three million fans. They went sixty four and 190 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:52.119 ninety eight. Meyer Hotlines open for you, eight sixty six eight three, 191 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:57.200 eight forty eight forty three. That's eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight 192 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:02.440 forty three, or you can text US Sports Radio to twenty one thousand when 193 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.279 we come back. The Jared Goff situation last week, some people liked it, 194 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:12.200 understood it, agreed with it, others did not. At the time, 195 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.599 I warned you it's the quote unquote going rate, and you will see 196 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:26.039 things escalate from here. Soon. He will be what Patrick Mahomes was in 197 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:30.599 the sense where Patrick Mahomes signed this big contract but then was pushed down with 198 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:36.920 others making more. You're going to see that happening with Jared Goff. The 199 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.720 next guy might be right around the corner. 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Glad you're with us. 240 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:45.960 Last week we told you about the Jared golf extension, and for good reason, 241 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.680 we felt like it was inevitable that you were going to have something like 242 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.119 this. It's just his I mean, that's the way. That is the 243 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:03.680 way the NFL, that's the way sports works. You get paid oftentimes for 244 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:11.599 what you have already accomplished. I don't always like that. There are some 245 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.839 teams. What they'll do is they'll project ahead, what do we think this 246 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.599 player is going to be. The Atlanta Braves are a great example of that. 247 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.920 The Atlanta bit Braves locked up their young core Ossi Albi's, Ronald'cunye 248 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:37.200 Junior, Austin Riley. They locked these guys up, Spencer Stryder because of 249 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:45.160 what they're about to do for them. There's too many teams that pay after 250 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.680 the fact, Hey, this is what you've done for me, and then 251 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:55.599 they kind of get burned by it after that. In football, in the 252 00:25:55.720 --> 00:26:00.319 NFL, especially at the quarterback position, You're gonna get paid for or for 253 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.119 the most part, for what you've done already, hoping that it continues. 254 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:14.759 Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts. There are five 255 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:22.400 quarterbacks who make fifty million dollars per season. Burrow's the highest paid at fifty 256 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:29.400 five mil per year. Fifty two starts, he makes fifty five million dollars 257 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.000 a year. I think he's a great quarterback. Love him. Doesn't stay 258 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.920 healthy enough for me. It's disappointing, but the talent, without a doubt, 259 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:45.319 is there. Justin Herbert makes fifty two and a half million dollars career 260 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.680 record under five hundred. I think he's a top five quarterback. Hell of 261 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:55.000 a talent. I'd take him any single day. Lamar Jackson, two time 262 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:59.799 MVP, makes fifty two million dollars as well. Look at his numbers. 263 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.119 Hasn't won a Super Bowl, but he's a two time MVP. He's fifty 264 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.279 eight to nineteen all time in his career, and the touchdown to interception ratio 265 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:15.160 are definitely there. Jalen Hurts, he makes fifty one million dollars. He's 266 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.960 led a team to a Super Bowl. He's thirty four and seventeen as a 267 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:26.480 starter. He's the future of the Philadelphia Eagles. And Jared Goff who signed 268 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:34.599 last week. You are going to see more quarterbacks join that group and do 269 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:45.119 it soon. One of those guys who I think is good, he has 270 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:51.079 not been as good as I thought he would be when he came out of 271 00:27:51.079 --> 00:28:00.160 college, and that is Trevor Lawrence. Now, Trevor Lawrence is really the 272 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:11.799 only guy from the twenty twenty one draft from a quarterback standpoint, who's done 273 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:19.559 anything. What he's done has been minimal, but he's the only one who's 274 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:29.599 done anything. Zach Wilson, already traded by the New York Jets last year 275 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:34.200 of his contract, will not be picked up. We know that Trey Lance 276 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.519 nowhere to be found, traded from San Francisco to Dalla. I mean, 277 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:47.039 how do you find that one? Right? I mean, that's a name 278 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.119 that so many Lions fans, if you recall back in twenty twenty one, 279 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:56.279 wanted desperately. That'd been a great guy to take. Kyle Pitts has been 280 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:02.279 productive in Atlanta. Jamar Chase one of the best receivers in football, Jaylen 281 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.759 Waddle, Penne Sewell was drafted by the Lions. He's the real deal. 282 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.960 We all know that. One of the best tackles in football. And then 283 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.319 there are others. Devonte Smith a little bit later on, Justin Fields has 284 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:22.680 already been traded. Micah Parsons arguably the best player in the draft. We 285 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.759 could go on and on and on all right, especially in football when you 286 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.680 get first second round picks, but I'm just giving you an idea. Trevor 287 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:37.680 Lawrence was the first overall pick there. He's played in fifty games. He's 288 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:49.079 thrown fifty eight scores thirty nine interceptions in his career. He's twenty and thirty. 289 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:56.119 Not all his fault, Nope, not at all, but that number 290 00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:03.960 stays with quarterbacks struggled mightily. His rookie year, led the league in interceptions 291 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.359 with seventeen, only won three games. The following season led his team to 292 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:15.599 the postseason. He was actually in the MVP conversation, finished seventh in that 293 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:26.279 regard, and then last year a five hundred record. End of the rookie 294 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.880 year is coming up, or end of the rookie contract, i should say, 295 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:37.759 is coming up. So what do you do well? The belief is, 296 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.440 and I get this, the belief is that he's going to sign a 297 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.279 contract extension soon. They're in talks right now about a contract extension that is 298 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:56.200 expected to pay him drum roll, fifty million dollars a year that according to 299 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:11.119 ESPN, He's not the only one. Dak Prescott is going to be in 300 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:17.079 that conversation too. He's entering the final year of his deal with Dallas. 301 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:26.079 Ask yourself, those guys worth fifty million, because you asked yourself that, 302 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:33.960 and you asked me about Jared Goff, So I'm asking you, what do 303 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:41.880 you think? Jared Goff not all with the Lions. We know that sixty 304 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:48.160 six and fifty. He's got to tie in there. Sixty six and fifty, 305 00:31:52.680 --> 00:32:04.359 Dak Prescott seventy three and forty one in Dallas. Are they winning? 306 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:10.240 Not to Dallas's liking, they're not. They expect a hell of a lot 307 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:20.440 more than what Dak Prescott has delivered, right, absolutely, Guys, first 308 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:28.119 team All Pro in twenty twenty three, depending on which vote you look at 309 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.079 Pro Football Writers, he was associated Press, he was second team either way. 310 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:38.599 Hell of a job, right, Okay, So that's what I wonder 311 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:46.799 because I told you this was going to happen. It's become a bit of 312 00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:54.680 a bar and then others are going to exceed that or come close to it. 313 00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.680 That would make you shake your head. People in Dallas, no doubt, 314 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.759 are like, are you kidding me? We're going to do this? 315 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:13.039 And Dak Prescott has got a couple of postseason wins in Dallas's two and five 316 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:19.039 in his career in the playoffs. That's not good enough, not when the 317 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:27.200 standard was Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman. Not good enough at all. But 318 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.000 you see how things. That's the going rate. That's what they're going to 319 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:36.519 have to do. Lawrence and the Jaggs discussing a new deal. Dallas about 320 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:42.519 to make a decision on Dak Prescott. Why is that? I'll tell you 321 00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:47.119 why it is, and we say this at nauseum. It's because there aren't 322 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:53.640 that many great quarterbacks in the world. There just aren't. You watched to 323 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.400 a tongue of a law that contract is going to be coming up sometime soon. 324 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.559 How much is brock Perty going to make eventually? Or a Jordan love 325 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:09.840 c J. Stroud's agent is thrilled right now. Those are all the guys 326 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:19.440 who are eyeing and taking note of what happened with Jared Goff and how it's 327 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.079 going to affect Trevor Lawrence and Dak Prescott. Because those other guys they just 328 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:30.719 mentioned they're up soon. It's not happening for Sam Howell and Derek Carr and 329 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:36.639 Geno Smith and guys like that Bryce Young, No, that's that's not happening 330 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:44.480 unless something drastically changes. But for those other guys, And here's the here's 331 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:53.280 the other reason. You don't know what's coming. You don't know what quarterbacks 332 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:59.079 are coming out of college that will be worth a damn. And the reason 333 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.440 you don't know is because you've seen so many You and I have seen so 334 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:09.679 many teams take their shot with certain quarterbacks. I brought up Zach Wilson. 335 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.800 I brought up justin fields. You look at this year's draft, you can't 336 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:22.880 be so naive to think that all these quarterbacks, as happy as they may 337 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:29.239 have been in Detroit or wherever it is they celebrated, and as big a 338 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:35.480 hug as they gave Roger Goodell phony all that stuff, you can't think that 339 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:43.800 Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, JJ McCarthy Michael Pennox are all 340 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:52.119 going to be top notch qbs. The numbers just don't support it. It's 341 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:58.320 hard to find the guy. And as I've said before, if you don't 342 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:05.039 have the guy as a general manager, you keep spending every waking moment trying 343 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:12.559 to find the guy. Look at the quarterbacks. I don't know what your 344 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.079 measurement is. I don't know if it's yards, I don't know if it's 345 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:22.280 touchdowns. I don't know if it's quarterback rating. Maybe it's wins. Where 346 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.880 where would your cutoff line be? How many quarterbacks played a year ago? 347 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:38.199 Fifty? I believe maybe more, maybe more than that, because Tim Boyle 348 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:45.159 got some snaps. CJ. Bethard got some snaps. The Bears played Brett 349 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:52.719 Rippin for a little bit, Jeff driscoll played for crying out loud, So 350 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.320 more than fifty. I mean. AJ mccerrn's playing in the UFL right now, 351 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.920 and he played in a couple of games. I'm not talking about guys 352 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:07.239 who threw passes. I'm talking about guys who actually were quarterbacks, like Nathan 353 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:14.719 Peterman was a quarterback last year. So more than fifty cues played last year. 354 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.719 That might surprise people. But let's just say somewhere in that neighborhood fifty 355 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.360 to fifty five, how many of them are worth having? And don't give 356 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:29.400 me Bailey Zappi and stuff like that. I'm talking about guys who are worth 357 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:37.519 having that you would want under center every single Sunday. Play that little game 358 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:45.760 with friends of yours. Maybe don't look at a list, volleyball back and 359 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.679 forth with one another, and say, give me a quarterback you would want. 360 00:37:52.199 --> 00:38:00.000 Don't double up on the answers. It's a little exercise. Okay, 361 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.280 guy you would want, And then where does it stop. I mean, 362 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.960 have some criteria, have something that you truly believe in. Say to yourself, 363 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:13.639 Okay, I'm not gonna mention a name just for the sake of mentioning 364 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:21.800 the name. I mean, I want this guy under center. You won't 365 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:34.280 last very long. You might last one commercial break. One commercial is in 366 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.280 like sixty seconds. I mean, if you know your football back and forth 367 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:46.719 real quick, folks, you're done after about ten maybe maybe twelve. And 368 00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:52.000 we make it sound like let's just go get a guy. Every team says 369 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.360 that most teams are going, you know what, We're lucky if we got 370 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.440 our guy that's why the Lions feel for fortunate. You could call him a 371 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:07.519 situational quarterback, a systematic quarterback. All you want, the Lions feel like 372 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:15.360 they have a guy they don't have to worry about under center. Not many 373 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:21.639 teams can say that. I'll play that game with Ben when we come back, 374 00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.000 all right, We'll go back and forth. We'll tell him and show 375 00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:30.320 you just how limited it really is. It won't take long, I promise 376 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.400 you. He'll say a name. I'll say a name. We'll go back 377 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:40.000 and forth, maybe six times, and then it'll stop because deep down inside 378 00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:45.239 there are certain guys. No way do I want them. Pun number of 379 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:51.199 the Meyer hotline is eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight to forty 380 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.280 three. You can text the program. All you gotta do is text sports 381 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:59.679 Radio to twenty one thousand. 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