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Really appreciate you guys. So with
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friend of the show, author,
veteran radio personality and producer of the show

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The Secret Teachings on Ground zero Dot
Radio. Ryan Gable, Welcome back to

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the show. It's good to see
you, my friend. Good to see

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YouTube writer. It's the first time
we've spoken since that conference to I believe,

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yes it is, and it's always
a joy and an honor and a

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privilege to speak with you, my
friend, and today is a very special

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day, Ryan. Very special day
is so special special day that I didn't

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even know that it was a day
until today, which is the Worldwide UFO

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Day. And we're primed and we're
ready to go. It's an amazing celebration

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of people just telling stories and sharing
their experiences with UFOs. So we're gonna

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have a little story time here today. And what I found really fascinating,

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and I googled World UFO Day,
and it's just really funny to me because

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up here in the right hand corner
of this says UFO Day is an awareness

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day for people to gather together and
watch the skies for unidentified flying objects.

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This day is celebrated by some on
June twenty fourth and others on July second.

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They can't even agree on what day
that they're supposed to be celebrating this,

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Ryan. The community is so fragmented
that they can't even agree on the

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specific day that they need to be
celebrating World UFO Day. Some say is

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June twenty fourth, others say it's
July second. That's not a good representation

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of what the community is and how
the community works. I don't know what

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is I wonder what the reason is
for having the twenty fourth as opposed to

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the second, because the I mean, I was thinking for a moment that

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it was Marie Island, which predated
Roswell. But Marie Island that incident was

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on the twenty first, So maybe
we should add the twenty first the list

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as well, unless there's another major
incident on the twenty fourth. Is there

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something we're missing? I thought it
went Murray Island Roswell, unless there's something

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in between that we're missing. I
think it went Murray. Was it Murray

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Island first or was it Kenneth Arnold's
experiences first? Well, Murray Island was

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on the twenty twenty first, Kenneth
Arnold on the twenty fourth, so I'm

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guessing that his sightings were the basis
for that claim. But I think he

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investigated the Murray Island incident after the
fact. But so it went Maurray Island

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and then what he saw and then
the Roswell incident. So I get that

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that that it has to be why
so we really should have three days twenty

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first, twenty fourth and the second. Yeah, Kenneth Arnald was June twenty

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fourth, nineteen forty seven. And
you said the Murray Island incident was when

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three days prior twenty first of June, So Murray Island. Were they getting

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this this July second day thing?
Oh, July second, I don't know,

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I'm not sure. Yeah, July
second is today. Maybe that's the

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uh, well, well, I
know, I'm not sure where they get

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that from, unless it has something
to do with the lead up to Roswell.

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Because if you read I mean,
my god, there are how many

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different versions of the Roswell story.
And I think the real for lack of

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a better term, Roswell scholars would
say that there's an official timeline and then

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there's just a bunch of other people
that kind of make things up and exaggerate

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or don't really have the details.
But if you read some of the original

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reports, right, there's different stories
and where like what happened then when it

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happened. You know, there's debris
that supposedly laid in a field for multiple

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days. Some people there were actually
multiple there were multiple parts of the area

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that had debris, like multiple crashes, and there were different days in which

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things happened, like when the thing
supposedly crashed, when the debris was discovered

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when the police or the military were
finally contacted. So it's like a multi

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day thing. So I'm guessing July
second probably starts off the Roswell incident,

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maybe when the object actually crashed and
they estimate, and then you know,

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later on like this weekend as the
Roswell Festival. Later on the seventh or

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eighth is when we sort of mark
the day that the military came out and

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said it got a flying saucer.
No, actually it's a weather balloon.

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I don't know's you know, it's
the same thing actually about when we talk

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about Roswell as like this is also
the fourth of July week right as Americans

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July. It's the same thing with
the fourth of July. It's not like

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it's a conspiracy. But July fourth
was only the day in which Congress read

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the first draft or one of the
first drafts of the Declaration of Independence.

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July third, a day before that, was when the first draft was prepared,

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and the July second was actually Independence
Day really because July second was when

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Congress actually declared independence. Then they
wrote a draft and they read it,

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you know, another day after that
on the third, and then the fourth

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is when we celebrated, but nobody
really signed it until August second. So

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it's kind of a similar thing to
the Roswell incident. You have like the

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crash, and then you have like
the reports, and then you have like

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the military shows up. Then you
have like the official story, then you

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have the other official story, and
then it just all kind of gets jumbled

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and then we say, well,
we're going to pick a day to celebrate

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it. It's kind of a similar
thing almost like every single holiday ever.

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Kind that's kind of like what Christmas
is supposed to be the celebration of Jesus'

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birth, but Jesus was born in
like supposedly, well it's supposed to have

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been in the summertime. We're in
the spring or late summer. It was

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around the summer months, like June, July, August, September area,

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So it's like, you know,
what are we doing with that? So,

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you know, Richard Doughty said that, uh, that there was an

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archaeological team that was out there doing
an archaeological dig near the Roswell crash and

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that they got a report that something
had fell out of this guy and then

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they went to excavate the craft as
well. Oh, there was an archaeological

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dig. Archaeological dig. We know
we can trust Richard Doughty, so we're

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gonna have to look into that.
Yep, you said an archaeological team was

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out there excavating when randomly the saucer
crashed, and then they just skipped off

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to go investigate and uh and dig
and do an excavation of where the craft

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landed down crash. Your listeners know
how well they can trust Richard Doughty.

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Though I would say Richard Doty actually
might be more credible than Corey Good,

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So, like, genuinely might he
might be more credible because at least he

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mixes like true stories with fake garbage. That's how the intel counterintelligence people work.

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Corey Good just made it all up. But that's a whole other story.

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So in light of this UFO day, regardless of whatever day you celebrated

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on, because it wouldn't be right
Ryan if we didn't share some of our

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experiences that we have probably never mentioned
to celebrate the event. Yeah, we

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got to be in celebration mode,
dude. So have you ever seen anything

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strange in this guy? I have. I have seen a handful of things,

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most of them I think I could
identify after the fact. But if

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we're talking about UFOs that are completely
unidentified, I think I've seen like maybe

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a handful, But I can also
correlate those directly with military installations, Like

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I saw something very bizarre a very
long time ago when I lived in Florida,

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when I was in the Tampa Saint
Pete area, but there's also mcdal

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Air Force Base right there. I
also saw a very strange exotic type craft.

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It was black and chevron shaped,
similar to what Arnold sawbeck in the

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late forties, and that was being
accompanied by two I don't know what type

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of fighter jets they were, but
two US military fighter jets. But that

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was also out at Rachel, Nevada, which is right across the way from

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Area fifty one. Maybe it was
reverse engineered alien technology. I don't know,

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But I've never really seen anything out
of the ordinary that wasn't over or

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near a military installation personally. Now, I've had other paranoral experiences that I

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wouldn't be able to quantify in the
same way, But for UFOs, those

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are my experiences. What about you, it seems like it's all over military

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basis. Yeah, there's been a
few kind of strange things that I seen

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whenever I was younger. I was
really young, and me and my dad

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were driving back to our home that
was about eight miles outside of town,

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kind of out in the middle of
nowhere, and we were getting ready to

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turn onto our road, and I
remember this very vividly because I couldn't we've

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both seen it, and it was
this thing that was hovering I don't know,

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maybe not very high up off the
ground, maybe three to four hundred

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feet. It was like it looked
like arches almost like I described it as

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like flying McDonald's arches is what it
looked like. And this was in like

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the late nineties, and there wasn't
really any drones. Drones weren't a thing

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at that time. These people didn't
know about drones at that time. And

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it just hovered there and we literally
looked at it from the from really far

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away. We stared at it all
the way until we turned on the end

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of the road, and then we
turned around and looked back at it,

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and it didn't move. It stayed
in the exact same spot, like three

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to four hundred feet up off of
the ground. And then later on me

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and my dad talked about it and
we were like, why didn't we just

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stop? And then we pull over
to the side of the road and get

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out and like, look at this
thing and look at it better. But

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that's one of my only experiences.
And then two years ago, in twenty

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twenty two, I was I was
in Colorado and we were having this get

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together, this little party, and
one of the people that came to the

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party had these night vision goggles and
she whipped them out and she was like,

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yeah, just scan around the backyard
or whatever. So whipped out the

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night vision goggles. Scanning around the
backyard, and as I was looking through

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the night vision goggles, I seen
this weird boomerang type looking craft thing.

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And as I was seeing it,
I was mentioning it to everyone because there

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is an audio can't be recorded on
the night vision goggles. It's just a

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video, and it was recording,
and I was like telling them and I'm

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like, looking at this thing and
I'm trying to follow it is best that

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I can. And I'm like,
hey, there's like a weird freaking boomerang

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just floating through the sky right now. And I was like, can you

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guys see it? And they were
like, no, they can see it

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with their naked eye and then I
don't think that they believed me, and

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I was like, nah, I'm
really getting something on this night vision goggles.

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And then the next day they ripped
the video footage up off of the

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night vision goggles and sure enough it
was right there. And I actually have

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a video. I have that clip
to play for you guys. I've played

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it one time before on the show
with Chris Albeck, which was like,

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I don't know, like two years
ago, almost well, maybe like a

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year ago. I'm not too sure
on the exact date of that show,

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but I played it on there.
I posted it on my social media's so

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it's been up there for a while. And Ryan, I don't know how

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I have not gotten famous off of
this amazing piece of UFO footage. People

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have gotten famous for much less.
But we're ever gonna watch this footage.

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This is real, correct, This
isn't You're not joking. You're not making

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no joking this So you can see
it coming in from the top left hand

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corner. It's like in a boomerang
V shaped, which is fun. That's

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also the same type of craft.
Like I think it was the Phoenix lights

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in the late nineties. It was
described as being just like that. We're

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similar to that, and I try
and follow it as long as I can,

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and I was telling them, I
was like, hey, there's like

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a weird boomerang. There's some kind
of weird V shaped craft that's going across

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the sky. And this is really
big. It can't be a bird.

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There's nothing flapping on it. It's
just a V shaped boomerang. So it's

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craft. It's it's not SpaceX,
it's not a satellite. Then I lose

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it right there. It's gone went
out of uh, went out of you.

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What do you think it was?
I don't know. I have absolutely

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no idea. That's really why I
didn't go any further with it or send

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it to people or you know,
trying to make a big deal about it,

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because I really don't know what it
was. I mean, it could

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could have been some kind of cloaked
type of military craft. But I always

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think things are really strange and weird
when they're only picked up in a photographer

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they're only picked up in a video
format. Because I was telling them as

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I was recording it what I was
seeing, and I was like, can

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you guys see it? And there
was like ten people standing in the backyard,

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and I asked them all. I
was like, are you guys seeing

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this? And I didn't want to
give them the goggles because then they would

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have lost focus on where it was
and they would have been all over the

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place with it, and I would
have not gotten that minute long footage that

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I did. Sometimes those things appear
because they move like on video or photos,

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and we don't see them until appter
the fact because they move so fast

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or they're very faint, you're not
really focused on it until you watch the

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hard you know, video or photograph
after the fact. Is it's kind of

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strange because if you know, you
read about the lore of vampires or certain

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other supernatural entities, they don't show
up in like a mirror or don't show

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up in a photograph. And these
objects might show up in a photograph,

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but you might not see them outside
of the camera. Just an interesting observation.

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Yeah, it's weird. I've always
thought that is. I don't know

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what to make of things that can't
be seen with the naked eye but show

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up on film. But that is
one real footage. It was not edited,

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doctor, no filters were put over
it, and the person that I

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got this from has the raw,
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I just reprocessed it because I needed
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Giant's watermark in the bottom right hand
so someone that someone doesn't steal it and

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make a million dollars off of it. Yeah. Yeah, So what do

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you think? I mean, do
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looked at that professional wise and said
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And it's just kind of sometimes I forget

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about it. Actually, then I
was like, oh, hey, I

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have this really cool piece of footage
that probably not a lot of people have

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seen. You got to throw some
other nonsense into it, maybe people would

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watch it. It's funny because I'm
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get a little bit paranoid. I
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technology, not to mention previous government
programs, intelligence, military programs to intentionally

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disinform the public through media, through
Hollywood, through Disney and UFO groups,

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et cetera. But there's probably a
lot of people in the world, like

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you writer, who have something like
that and it doesn't go viral. And

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nobody cares because your name's writer Lee. It's not Jeremy Corbel, it's not

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David Brush right, and your video
and on I mean, in my opinion,

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from what I mean, I trust
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seen that video one other time you
played it for me. That's a hell

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of a lot more interesting than the
jellyfish UFO that Jeremy Corbel showed. I'm

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not attacking Jeremy Corbell. I'm just
saying that, like the stuff that he

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shows, like those flares at the
military base in twenty nine Palms, very

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clearly an altered video, very clearly
flares, and they completely took the thing

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out of context. And he's smart. He had to have known he took

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it out of context, had to
have known that that video was not what

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he said that it was. And
yet that gets into the mainstream press and

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yours doesn't. And it's not just
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I would imagine somewhere in the world. It's probably a bunch of people

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in the United States and a bunch
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that, and nobody cares to see
it because this you know, a certain

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person doesn't present it. Bob Lazar
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don't think Rider, so nobody cares. That's the problem with a lot of

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this stuff. People say, where's
the evidence at Well, it's probably on

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hard drives of people like Rider,
who you know, you don't really hawk

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it and you don't really do it, you know, you know, and

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you don't really get it out there
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you're not trying to sell something,
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feel like there's probably a lot of
people that have really good evidence, a

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hell of a lot better than what
the Navy's probably shown us, or a

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hell of a lot better than what
Jeremy Corbell shows us every time he wants

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to make a make a few dollars
on the UFO documentary. I mean,

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I feel like that's got to be
the case. And as Tony also did

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the triangle Craft UFO where he where
the aperture of the camera was just in

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a triangle lens that made it look
like that there was a flying triangle craft

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there, you go, I know, and like the thing is this The

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guy's not I don't think he's stupid, so he knows what he's doing,

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or maybe he's naive. I don't. No again, I'm not attacking Jeremy

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Corbell. I just don't. I
don't know why people like him can get

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away with video after video after video
that can be disproven, and yet there

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are a lot of people like you
who have things like that and what he

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cares like I I mean, it's
purely speculative. But I bet you if

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you stopped Jeremy in the hallway of
Contact in the desert this year, when

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you have five camera angles on him, you know, and you said,

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hey, I want you to look
at this video. I mean, I

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highly doubt he would have given a
damn. And if he did, you

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know what's he gonna do is gonna
put it into the next documentary. It's

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not his video, so he doesn't
care. I mean, I think that's

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really what's wrong with ufology. And
there's so many assumptions we have about this

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stuff, like, oh, if
someone had a camera, they take a

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picture. Well, there's probably a
lot of those pictures, but we just

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don't believe they're real because there's too
many Richard Doughties in the world. That's

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true. I was so shocked.
I think everyone that seeing Jerremany Corbell at

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that conference. They were like,
what is going on right now? Dude?

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He they they were going through the
conference and he had like an entire

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freaking camera crew with him. He
had a boom mic operator guy that was

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like in front of him, like
running after him. I was like,

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what is going on right now?
That was wild? But we're gonna We're

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gonna do that next year with me. But it's gonna just be cell phones,

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you know. I had one.
I had one other experience that I

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wouldn't call it. I mean,
I know that it traditionally would fall into

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the UFO category, but I don't
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I went to a campground I think
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outside Monument Valley in Utah, southern
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this native family and the guy that
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it. It was passed down generationally
and I stayed the night and there was

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somebody else with me and we both
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the guy came over to see if
we were okay, like if everything the

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campground was nice, everything was okay. Before we left and I said,

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yeah. I said, I'm just
curious, do you ever see anything weird

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around here? And then he described
what I had seen the night before,

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and I hadn't said anything else to
him, so i'd know that there's some

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relevancy to what I saw. What
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the campground is. I saw this
light come up from from the butte and

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then it moved back and forth very
quickly, something that you would see maybe

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like you know, Fox Malder saw
at Area fifty one or something in the

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X Files, you know, or
at a military base sees little lights going

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back and forth and then they would
go up and down. And the guy

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the next morning said, he said
he saw that stuff when he was a

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kid. He's always seen it,
and they don't consider it, at least

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he doesn't, and his family doesn't
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He said, he can. He
thinks that that's their ancestors, that their

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spirits, that they're not some kind
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They're like orbs of you know,
spirits or the soul, which is

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traditionally like George, not George Well, Carl Jung there's a couple of people,

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I think Carl Young was one of
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object and how that's a symbol.
It's always been a symbol of the soul.

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little golden orbs, gold and yellow
white orbs, that they were basically their

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ancestors and they were there protecting them. So I don't know if i'd call

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that a you know, a traditional
UFO, because there's so much an association

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with flying discs and all that.
But I saw that that was like three

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years ago. I saw that.
I don't know what my opinion is on

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it, except I take what he
said into consideration very strongly, and I

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have no other context for it.
So I can't say I believe it's that.

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think that it was aliens. Yeah, that triggers another thought in my mind

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because I had an experience probably three
over three years ago, where I walked

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out I was working a graveyard shift, and I walked out into the backyard

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to take you the trash out,
and I walked around to the front of

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the building, and I seen these
string of lights that came up out from

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behind the horizon and then they moved
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Then they flattened out, and then
they moved in a straight line across.

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But they weren't very far away,
and the first thing I thought was,

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Oh, maybe this is like starlink
satellites or whatever, you know,

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whatever Elon Musk is doing. But
they weren't that far are away from me,

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and I thought that that was really
interesting. And I stood out there

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and watched them, like one at
a time, come up out of forty

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five degreen angle and just level out
straight and then just go right across,

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like for fifteen minutes. There was
like that, many of them just zep

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zep and going across. But they
were like orbs. There were like little

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there were like balls of light gold
yellow white, kind of light white and

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just straight white. I guess that's
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What do you make of that?
I don't know, I don't know what

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that was it was. You know, I don't like talking talking about this

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stuff too much because like I'm not, you know, trying to you know,

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monetize these experiences. And then speculating
on about what they were just feeds

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other people's thoughts and theories, and
then they think that they know more than

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you, and then they tell you
what it was that you saw. I

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know, I know, I know, I personally know exactly what you mean.

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Yeah, like, oh, that
was the extraterrestrial gray ships from Zay

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to the particular that I've seen twenty
four times in my life whenever I was

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really young up until yesterday, I
saw them, you know what I mean.

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And then that influences your thought process
behind what you think that it was.

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So I think a lot of times
could have been dark Fleet TM could

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have been dark Fleet, dark Fleet
trademark, Yeah, or light Fleet could

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have been one of the fleets.
One of the fleets, said, Omega

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Fleet, Omega Fleet, Star Command, you know the Empire, you know

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the Enterprise Deep Space Fleet, Yeah, galctly Command, the thirty three Confederation

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of Planets. Mhm. Never stops, dude, I feel the same way

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that you do. That's why I
don't normally talk about stuff like that too

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often. But this is a special
This is a special show. And you

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know, World UFO DA World UFO
Day. Maybe we go wherever we want.

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We can talk about whatever we want
here. This is a safe space,

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all right. Uh, what's some
you mentioned some paranormal experiences before?

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Well, you just earlier you mentioned
that you had some paranormal experiences. And

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I believe in the paranormal. I
think it's real. I think it may

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be more of a psychological condition than
it is something physical outside of you that's

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manipulating things. I think, if
anything, it would be to infiltrate into

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your mind, to alter your perception
of reality, to give you the perception

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that something is going on. But
that's just a kind of a different take

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on it. But what have you
Is there anything that you'd like to share

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that maybe you haven't talked about before
that seems like that it was unexplainable or

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that you have absolutely no idea what
it was. Story time, baby,

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Yeah, I have a very small
number of select stories. Nothing I thought

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about before the show tonight, and
I think I've only talked about them three

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times, sort of outside of you
know, the closed walls of where I

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live. I mentioned them to you
one time. I've mentioned them on two

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shows I did in the past,
like a long time ago, and then

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recently, actually a friend of mine
called me was talking to me about stuff

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like that, and I mentioned it
to them. But other than that,

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yeah, I've never really talked much
about these, for the same reason as

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we discussed with the UFOs. But
when I was a kid, I saw

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and have a very vivid, clear
memory of a handful of things, some

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malicious or at least that was my
interpretation, and some a little more benevolent,

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not so malevolent, not so malicious. I saw things that also were

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not very defined, sort of like
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I don't know what you'd call it. I have no idea what to

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call it, but I've seen things
like that. I think the most well

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defined thing that I would that I
would think that listeners would understand, is

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a series of things that I saw
at my great grandma's house up in West

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Virginia, where you're from. I
was in Teralda, which is outside Morgantown,

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well very far outside Morgantown, outside
Kingwood, and I was in the

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room with my sister when I was
very young, and I vividly remember this,

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and I will lay in bed.
There's two beds laying in bed,

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and the beds are facing the back
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It was a big room, big
house, big big room, and

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there was a closet which could have
doubled as a second room that was kind

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of a walk in closet where they
had put a lot of stuff for storage.

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So sitting or laying in the bed, and you know, facing that

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way, I remember seeing this almost
etherory but some sort of there but not

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there defined humanoid form in the corner. And it was black, all black,

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and it had on what I could
only describe as what people would say

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are the suits of you know,
the men in black. And it had

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no face, which is now what
we would maybe call People would say,

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that's slender man. And it had
a hat on, which is what most

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people would call hat man, what
Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback, was running

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away from. And it stood there
and I could I can still see it

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today. It's really scary. But
at the same time I knew that it

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wasn't really going to do anything to
me. But it was very disturbing that

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I'm looking at this thing that now
years later, I think it was probably

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two thousand and twelve, so probably
about twelve years ago, I was reading

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a book by Nick Redfern, and
this was me. What was I three

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years out of high school. So
I was reading a book by Nick Redfern,

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and I came across those stories of
the at Man and I thought,

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oh my god, that's exactly what
I saw when I was a kid.

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And the only person I told that
too was well. I said to my

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mom the next morning, down at
breakfast, what I had saw, and

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my mom just vehemently denied it.
And I remember my grandma explaining to me

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what she used to see because that
used to be her room. We were

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at my great grandma's house and this
was, you know, her daughter,

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my grandma, and my grandma explained
to me the exact same thing that I

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saw the night before. And so
when I had that vivid memory and then

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00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.319
my grandma confirms it for me,
and then many many I mean I was

407
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.640
a kid, I was very young, and then like way later, like

408
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.680
a decade later at least, but
now ten or so years ago, twelve

409
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:13.720
years ago, I'm reading this book
and here's a description of exactly what I

410
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.160
saw as a kid that was cooperated
by my grandma in the same spot,

411
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.000
in the same room that she grew
up in. So those things I think

412
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.559
validated that for me, validated in
the sense that I have no idea what

413
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.160
it was. I would describe it
as the hat Man, and I would

414
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:37.319
describe it as very scary, especially
for a child. But what exactly it

415
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.559
was, I have no idea,
and I don't think anybody in the world,

416
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.319
no paranormal researcher. You might have
people they get close to developing a

417
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.440
theory, but nobody really knows what
that stuff is. And we're talking pre

418
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.599
internet, you know, we're talking
pre I mean, these stories have been

419
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.960
told globally for a very long time, pre international travel, pre internet,

420
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.440
pre cell phones. So these are
universal, which makes me think that what

421
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:08.680
we're dealing with here, just like
with UFOs, is a universal awareness,

422
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:14.920
a universal you know, like the
sun, it's universal. Everybody interacts with

423
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.440
it. So you don't need some
sort of continental travel or intercontinental travel or

424
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.640
you know, big ships to traverse
the oceans, or spaceships or planes or

425
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.880
anything like that to get around the
world. Everybody sees the sun and they

426
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.480
develop their own mythos from the sun
and the moon, and you know the

427
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.440
rain and the you know, the
wind and all the things that naturally happen.

428
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.599
We all develop, you know,
different gods and goddesses, We develop

429
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.480
different myths and stories, and I
think these are things that are slightly out

430
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.519
of the realm of the physical,
but they're things that people have experienced for

431
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:51.480
so long that we find these stories
and every virtually every culture, we might

432
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.359
just you know, call them something
different, whether it's something sort of abnormal,

433
00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.559
like a thought form. You know
that Jews have the gullum, the

434
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:09.719
Tibetans have the the the Tulpa,
and European alchemists had various names for similar

435
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:15.159
thought forms or universally, that idea
was they were like some kind of air

436
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:20.320
spirit, which then also ties in
with UFOs and aliens and the manifestation of

437
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.400
these things. And then you know, as a kid too, I would

438
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.719
imagine, you know, I'm a
little bit more open to suggestibility, but

439
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.000
a little bit more open also for
lack of a better way to describe,

440
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.800
at the spiritual realm, and that
gets more solidified as you get older and

441
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.639
you lose contact with that. And
then this was also in the middle of

442
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:38.159
the night, I always had trouble
sleeping, so it was a good chance

443
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:43.760
that my brain's produced in some of
those chemicals and I'm in a different place

444
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:49.280
and I'm scared, kid, I'm
nervous, and I manifest and see this.

445
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.679
My sister, I don't think ever
saw it, but I saw it.

446
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.800
So you know, it's probably a
combination of a lot of things.

447
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.840
And that and the psychology of that, I think writer is one of my

448
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.519
most favorite things. I think that
that really describes what we're dealing with.

449
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.119
My final comment on that, to
wrap my thoughts up, are that it's

450
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:12.440
like when you look at a gray
alien, you know, people on the

451
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.159
Discovery Channel ancient aliens. I mean
you've probably heard the gray alien described as

452
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:22.880
being sort of feet aslike it's like
an undeveloped you know human, you know,

453
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.039
no hair, the eyes, the
mouth, the ear if it has

454
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.480
a mouth to ears, it's not
fully developed, so it's fetal like it's

455
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.760
I mean, I think that's sort
of you know, it's like an unconscious

456
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.800
projection of us, because those little
gray aliens want the same thing. They

457
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.440
don't want to blow up the world
with nuclear weapons. They don't want to

458
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:47.239
pollute the planet, and that's what
we want. And I think it's it's

459
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.599
kind of like the homunculus in alchemy. So there's a whole string of connections

460
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:58.159
here. But to summarize my point, that's probably my most memorable experience and

461
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.840
providing all that context. I do
that so that listeners can understand that it's

462
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.440
not just some story that I'm telling
for awe, like, I'm trying to

463
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.800
provide context and be objective about it
to explain that I don't know what this

464
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.880
was, but if you study it
like I have long enough, and you've

465
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.480
had those experiences which probably inspired me
to do the study in the first place.

466
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.519
Whether I know that or not,
there's definitely something there. And I

467
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:28.480
wonder how many people listening have had
similar experiences. And I mean, now

468
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.480
I wonder I think you've told me
that. I wonder what your experiences are,

469
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:35.800
if you ever had anything like that
happen or something else. Yeah,

470
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.320
if anyone is signing you of those
experiences, please just let us know in

471
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:45.760
the comments for sure. Jenna Banana
says, my favorite, how's it going,

472
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.039
Banana, Good to see you.
I haven't seen you in a minute.

473
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.639
My favorite so far is, of
course, the banana shape ufo.

474
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.599
She literally has a video of a
banana shaped ufo that she sent me.

475
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.960
It's only in like reframes I wish
I could pull it up, but I

476
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.400
don't have a Facebook logged in on
this computer. But it looks like a

477
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.199
banana. She's like she's driving in
her in her vehicle and she has her

478
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.440
phone out or a camera or whatever, and she's filming and this thing just

479
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.679
like passes right by the front of
the car, and whenever it's slowed down

480
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.559
and you see the frames of it, it looks like a flying banana.

481
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.400
It's wild, isn't that something that's
also describeding a lot of the UFO lore.

482
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.039
I mean, Jack Vaile documents a
lot of strange UFO cases and his

483
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.480
you know, a passport to make
on your book. But there are cases

484
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.880
where these strange not a banana,
but something something equivalent to a banana lands

485
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.159
in a farmer's field. It's like
an egg, you know, lands in

486
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.679
the field. Or maybe that's how
they just describe it. But these weird,

487
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.119
bizarre craft that just don't make any
sense. And like there's actually a

488
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.679
lot of cases where if the craft's
not bizarre, the people to get out

489
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.840
of the craft are like, yo, can we get a piece a toast?

490
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.039
Can we have like some peanut butter? Like they ask for kind of

491
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.280
like Ben in Black ask for really
strange things. So I don't know,

492
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:12.519
maybe there's banana banana UFOs or something
like that, but that's really interesting.

493
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.599
There's something she's got some kind of
footage of a banana ufo. It's wild.

494
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:25.360
But wasn't there like stories of like
fish raining fish Charles stuff? Yeah?

495
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.239
Was that Charles Fort was talking about
that. I got his Book of

496
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.960
the Damned right here, and it's
documents. He's got a bunch of books,

497
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.519
but it documents all these cases of
things like that, stuff falling out

498
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:45.400
of the sky, gold coins,
you know, insects, like insects falling

499
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.639
fish. I don't know if he
talks about the you know, the different

500
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.920
colors of snow, but there's like
multi colored snow and all kinds of stuff

501
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.000
like that. I think there was
a turtle one too, where turtles just

502
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:02.760
fell out of the sky, a
bunch of turtles, probably because of some

503
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:09.159
type of weather phenomenon. It's happened. It happened with scorpions during a dust

504
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.559
storms here in Arizona. Things like
that. Yeah, as far as things

505
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.880
that you know happened to me when
I was growing up, I've spoken about

506
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.119
it a couple of times before that, I would see beings come out of

507
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.320
the walls late at night when I
was sleeping with my parents in the room,

508
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.760
like faces. I would literally see
them coming out of the walls.

509
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.519
They was surround me and like look
at me all night. And I think

510
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:45.280
that's what where I didn't like I
couldn't sleep. I think that was some

511
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.440
of the first things that happened.
And I've always liked nighttime. I'm always

512
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.360
like to sleep in really late,
and I've always been like that. I

513
00:39:52.400 --> 00:40:01.159
probably will never change. I hate
waking up early. But that and there's

514
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:07.079
a few other things that were really
interesting that I was thinking back on.

515
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:12.239
It was like whenever I was younger, like whenever I was growing up,

516
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.000
you used your imagination a lot,
you know. And I took martial arts

517
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:21.880
when I was younger, and I
would like beat up like pillows and stuff,

518
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.440
like pretending that they're like people.
I play like you know, Dragon

519
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.559
ball Z with with pillows or then
I was fighting ninjas or like whatever,

520
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.400
and like I would throw, like
kick, kick, throw up pillows and

521
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.920
kick them or like punch pillows or
whatever. And I would also do that

522
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.559
with grocery bags, right, I
would throw up like grocery bag and let

523
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.000
it fill up with like the air, and then like I would see how

524
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.519
many times I could like hit it
and it would make that like swishing sound,

525
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.320
you know, like if you like
hit like a grocery bag or whatever.

526
00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:00.000
I remember leaning in bed at night
and I would hear the noise of

527
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:08.639
the grocery bag like being hit.
It was the weirdest, strangest thing ever.

528
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:14.239
But no one was awake. It
sounded like it was happening in the

529
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:20.000
kitchen, and I'm like, what
is going on here? And it was

530
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:27.119
like something was mimicking what I was
doing. On Yeah, maybe like an

531
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:32.800
energy impression or an energy overlay or
something like that. But I thought that

532
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:39.639
was really interesting. And really that's
about it as far as like weird and

533
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.320
strange things happening when I was a
kid. Now, I've had some very

534
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:52.320
interesting paranormal experiences later on in life, and some of the most haunted locations

535
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:59.320
in the world, like Waverley Hills
Sanitarium in Louisville, Kentucky, Translingi Lunatic

536
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.760
Asylum, Western and West Virginia,
Mountsville Penitentiary, and Mountsville, West Virginia.

537
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:14.000
The Rectory in Cincinnati, Ohio,
the Prospect Place and trans Transville,

538
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:19.480
Ohio. So, I mean,
I've had some really strange paranormal experiences.

539
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.599
I've never really seen a lot again. It's been like hearing strange things,

540
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:30.519
feeling strange things, and like a
psychological effect of like being in like a

541
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.920
certain location. But one time I
was with my dad and a group of

542
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:40.559
few people and we were investigating Waverley
Hill Sanitarium in Louisville, Kentucky, which

543
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.360
is a huge freaking facility. It's
like five stories and it has like a

544
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:50.119
balcony and everything. And we're on
the third floor where at the end of

545
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.559
one of these wings. Because how
the building is set up, it has

546
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.199
like this long, straight, narrow
part and then has two wings on the

547
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:01.000
backside, and we're on the left
hand side all the way down close to

548
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:05.079
one of the EXI doors. But
the EXI doors doesn't open. There's no

549
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:10.000
electricity to this place. We're standing
probably in the middle of the hallway on

550
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.079
the wing to the left, and
there's five of us standing in this hallway

551
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.320
where the only people on this wing. Because the way the investigations worked,

552
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.760
they only let a certain amount of
people on each floor and there's no way

553
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:27.000
to get out. The only way
that you can get out is if you

554
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.840
go down to the basement and then
you go through this tunnel and you go

555
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.039
back to the main hub of this
building. There's no other access to the

556
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:40.320
entire facility. And we're standing there
and all of us literally see because there's

557
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.840
corridors on either side of the hallway
for patients. It was a tuberculosis hospital.

558
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.079
I'm not sure if you're familiar with
Waverley Hills Sanitarium, but it was

559
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.559
an old tuberculosis hospital. And the
way that it worked back in the day

560
00:43:52.719 --> 00:44:00.320
was that the doctors thought that they
could cure tuberculosis by having open, like

561
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.199
open rooms that were that the sun
could shine in and they would get natural

562
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.079
air into them. So the whole
front part of the building is like open,

563
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.519
and then the back part is like
kind of closed in. There was

564
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.000
like doors and stuff there. We're
standing in the middle of the hallway and

565
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:22.719
we're all looking down the hallway,
and simultaneously we see each room on both

566
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:29.719
sides of the hallway light up with
light, and it's like something is flipping

567
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:34.400
on a light switch in each one
of these rooms, and it gets halfway

568
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:39.360
to us. Then the entire hallway
is just completely lit up, every room

569
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.960
on both sides of the hallway or
lighting up simultaneously, one after the other.

570
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.639
It's like someone's just flipping on breaker
switches. I assume that this place

571
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:52.679
had electricity, right, No,
no electricity, run, no electricity,

572
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.719
no electricity, and no light bulbs, nothing. It's like completely empty building,

573
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:05.480
there's nothing in it. And it
gets halfway to us and then simultaneously

574
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.119
it just all goes out at the
exact same time, and like I'm like,

575
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.280
oh, bowing my dad, I'm
like, yo, are you seeing

576
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.800
this? Like what's going on?
I'm like shocked, you know, like

577
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.000
I don't know what is going on. And we all see it. There

578
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.480
was five of us there. We
all said the exact same thing as what

579
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.840
happened. So that's one of my
one of my favorite ones. Well,

580
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:36.679
you were obviously with somebody when that
happened, too, so you can it's

581
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:40.559
not you know that it's not just
your imagination or that you've misremembered something because

582
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.400
you were with someone else when that
happened, someone close to you, which

583
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.320
I don't know if that's better or
worse in terms of verifying things like this,

584
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.320
but I think a lot of people
have probably had experiences like that and

585
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:59.559
they don't know what to make of
them, and I wonder, I wonder

586
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:06.719
if that's part of the reason that
there are so many I would just call

587
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:12.000
them con artists in these fields because
they know that, you know, most

588
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.480
people have experienced something like this,
and most of us are looking for answers

589
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:22.239
and science doesn't really provide us with
answers. So if you fabricate a story

590
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:28.400
and you pray on people who have
had experiences, that are I would say

591
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.800
legitimate for lack of a better word. You know, people are looking for

592
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:36.039
answers. People want to believe,
they want to try and understand, and

593
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:37.679
I think that's why we get taken
for a ride. So we have to

594
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.519
sort of be careful, you know, where we get our information from.

595
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.920
Yeah, that's why I don't like
talking about any of that stuff, because

596
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.280
you know, again, people are
just going to throw in their own two

597
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.360
cents on end and try and relate
it to something else that they've heard,

598
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:59.119
something that they've probably never even experienced, something that they watch on a TV

599
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.960
show, and make it out to
be that they're the ones that you know,

600
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.679
came up with it or they're the
ones that did it, and then

601
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:12.199
it just increased the snowball effect of
like nonsense, and then those ideas get

602
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.960
projected onto you and then before you
know it, you're believing that you were

603
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.840
in a twenty back super space program
that your age addressed, and that you

604
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.599
fought aliens in space for twenty years. You know, it's that quick,

605
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.760
Just like that stamp of a finger, you're in You need to go to

606
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.400
one of those mental asylums. Yeah, and then they want you to,

607
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.440
you know, pay them money to
tell tell you what you experience. Like

608
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.639
no, bro, Like, I
know what I experienced and I don't really

609
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:43.119
care to know what it was.
It literally makes no difference to me what

610
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.880
it was. I just don't care. And if I think if more people

611
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.400
had that kind of outlook on it, I don't think we would have any

612
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.559
a lot of these problems that would
do in this continting point an interesting point,

613
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.800
Well, I mean that's sort of
I wouldn't say exactly, but that

614
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.480
is more and more how I've been
approaching a lot of the subjects I discussed

615
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:07.559
on the Secret Teachings is by clarifying
with the audience that what I'm doing is

616
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:14.239
not trying. I'm not trying to
convince you of an idea or convince you

617
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:20.239
of a of a an ideology or
a belief system. I'm simply presenting.

618
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.519
I mean, I have my own
opinions, of course, but I present

619
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:27.119
information and then you know, you
make you make of it what you will.

620
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.880
And I'm just going to show you
here the records, here's the documentation,

621
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.559
here's a date, here's an article, and you know, you do

622
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:40.719
with it what you will. But
those kinds of experiences, I mean,

623
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.400
I know people or I've known people
in my life who have had experiences like

624
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:49.960
that. They don't want to talk
about them because they either are afraid of

625
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.679
sounding crazy or I think a lot
of times people are afraid of sounding not

626
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.480
crazy. And it's like you don't
want to believe. Just so many people

627
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:00.239
that want to belie. There's a
lot of people wo don't want to believe

628
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:06.599
because it's it changes your whole perception
of the world, Like everything you've ever

629
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.559
been taught or you've assumed is true. If you believe that this is happening

630
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:15.480
to you, then you have to
reassess all of that, and that's particularly

631
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:21.760
difficult for religious minded people. Nothing
wrong with that, but it's particularly different

632
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.800
religious minded people, which is why
when they see and experience things like that,

633
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.400
they attribute it to God, angels, demons, or the devil.

634
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.559
And they're probably not wrong. But
that's it's interesting, you know. We've

635
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.639
always said it's interesting how depending on
where how you grew up, you know,

636
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:44.159
or what your interests are, you
have the same exact experience and the

637
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.280
way that you know, I describe
the hat man might sound like the devil,

638
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.880
you know to some people. To
me, I don't know what it

639
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.440
was because I don't have I'm not
coming at it from a religious or a

640
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.400
euphological or a certain point of view
of just there it is. I don't

641
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.760
know what it is to find other
people who who have heard the same story

642
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:07.719
or have experienced something similar. Well, didn't didn't injured cold have a hat?

643
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.719
And didn't he wasn't he wearing a
suit too? It was like men

644
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.960
in black? Yeah, and he
asked for like the pen. People always

645
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.440
made a big deal about how he, you know, acted. Men in

646
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.800
black act very strange, very similar
to those weird cases of these beings getting

647
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:30.599
out of UFOs and fields and being
and being awkward and asking for strange things

648
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:36.679
or to us strange things. Well, truth brings up something really interesting.

649
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.840
I had a I hope he's being
serious. I had one fight with me

650
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:44.840
the hat man Ryan. I ended
up, he says, I ended up

651
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:50.039
on my knees bowing. I've heard
that before. I've heard one of my

652
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.599
friends growing up said that that happened
to him. He had an encounter with

653
00:50:53.719 --> 00:51:00.119
the hat man and he ended up
on his knees, like like the Lord's

654
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.239
prayer or something. And then it
went away and never came back. And

655
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:10.599
then Noble also said never saw them
again. Hm. You know, if

656
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.480
you use that, if you use
that terminology, if you you know,

657
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:20.480
whether it's Lord's prayer or Jesus Christ
or whatever. I mean, it works

658
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.719
if you believe that it works.
I think doesn't mean that you're dealing with

659
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.360
strictly theological things. It's just you
have this very strong belief. I mean,

660
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.079
I'm not Christian, but I've I've
used those terms before too. You

661
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.360
know, I'm not a I'm not
a practicing magician, but I also have

662
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:43.639
like ritual instruments. I find it
interesting and I like to learn about things

663
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.760
and possess those things. But yeah, those terms or Jesus Christ, the

664
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.480
Lord's prayer or whatever. It is, like, it's very powerful. It

665
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.320
works, they're I mean, if
you open up the Bible the whole it's

666
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:57.000
like that the TV show Ted.
You don't know, if you saw the

667
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.880
Ted TV show where they're looking through
the Bibles, he's like turning this,

668
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.480
turn to the spells. That's the
spells it is. It's just it's a

669
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:10.599
bunch of spells and incantations and things
like that. I watched the you're talking

670
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:15.400
about the series on Peacock. Yeah, the show. Yeah, yeah,

671
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.440
I watched like the first three or
four episodes. I thought it was really

672
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.840
funny, but then I kind of
forgot about it. Oh maybe you didn't

673
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.400
see the one where they were looking
at the Bible. That was really funny.

674
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.360
But yeah, it has power.
Yeah, And I don't know if

675
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:34.199
that's because of an agregoric type of
reality, because people has put a lot

676
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:38.239
of good energy into the name of
Jesus and good energy behind the Bible,

677
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:45.920
that it somehow works in that type
of fashion. I mean that seems more

678
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:51.679
common sense and critical thinking to me
that people, over generations and generations of

679
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:58.440
people have put nothing but good and
positive energy behind the Bible and behind Jesus's

680
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:04.519
name and behind the Lord's prayer.
That because it doesn't really make any sense

681
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:15.280
that a certain verse would work against
like everything, like it what if it's

682
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:22.119
a what if it's a Muslim demons? Because would you have to would you

683
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:28.440
have to recite the Muslim equivalent of
the Lord's prayer? It's a good question.

684
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.320
I think it's because, yes,
one, it's agrigoric, and that's

685
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:37.840
partly you know, well, it's
completely but also partly a matter of what

686
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:43.280
you believe works, which I think
is part of the agrigor. But I

687
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.679
think another part of it is,
just like we said earlier, whether you're

688
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.639
Muslim, Christian, or something else, we're all dealing with the same exact

689
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.880
forces. We just from our own
perspective see them differently from the way that

690
00:53:53.880 --> 00:54:00.519
we were raised, the language we
use. And I think I think a

691
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.760
one piece of evidence that that's the
case is that, you know, the

692
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:08.800
name Jesus is not at all close
to the original name of that character of

693
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:15.480
that person. You know, there
was no Jay in Hebrew, so they

694
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:21.440
didn't call him Jesus. His name
was closer to Yeshua. And then in

695
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.559
Greek it would have been Eshus and
very close to Zeus is Zeus, and

696
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:30.079
then that became Jesus. So I
mean, if you were laying in bed

697
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.880
at night and you said, Yeshua
protect me, probably not going to have

698
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.119
the same effect. If you were
to say, you know, is Zeus

699
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.920
protect me, probably not going to
have the same effect. If you say

700
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.920
Jesus has the same effect because you
believe it. It's agregoric. Yes,

701
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.360
And then when you compare that to
like this idea of the ancient world and

702
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.480
there's all these different demons and supernatural
forces that people interact with on a daily

703
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:58.400
basis, and God is talking to
people, Jesus would not have been the

704
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.840
name that was used at the time. So it's not the name itself per

705
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:07.960
se. It's the energy, the
essence that you put into it. That

706
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.239
makes sense to me. That's what
I think. That's what I've kind of

707
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:16.679
always thought that that's what's going on
is a gregoric the belief and the energy

708
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:22.960
that's put behind the word as manifested
in a positive light, which therefore helps

709
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:28.320
people in their time of need.
Yes, I think so, Oh,

710
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.519
I think we should also mention as
we're just about out of time do you

711
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.480
mind if I mentioned one thing about
Roswell? Oh yeah, go ahead.

712
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.960
I was thinking today and I did
my show in this that the Roswell incident.

713
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:42.960
I was trying to make my show
topical. And I'm going to be

714
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:46.119
at the festival this weekend if anybody
else is going to be there. But

715
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:52.039
the Roswell incident is, you know, the object that crashes and then we

716
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:59.280
recover it, and then we use
reverse engineering to develop technologies from the reverse

717
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.480
engineer craft or the technology in the
craft. And the whole narrative around this

718
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.199
is like they had velcrow and lasers
and all this other stuff from the craft.

719
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:15.079
Right, So as very similar to
the idea of you know, the

720
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:20.719
storyline, the arc of the story
of Jesus, Right, Jesus comes into

721
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:25.480
the world and then Jesus you know, has a downpoint where he's beaten and

722
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.639
crucified to a cross, and then
he's buried, and then he's resurrected.

723
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.320
They go to try to find his
body, you know, find where the

724
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:36.519
crash happened. They find, you
know, find that he's missing, and

725
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.239
then Jesus is resurrected and then he
you know, blesses those who believed in

726
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:44.599
him and then says that you know, when I return, you know,

727
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.519
at a at a point in the
future, people will be saved if you

728
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:51.800
believe in me. And that's you
know, that's the story. It's it's

729
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:54.360
very similar. That idea is very
similar to Roswell or any of these other

730
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:59.239
incidents. It's all part of the
narrative of the myth of the Sun.

731
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.920
The sun comes up, moves across
the sky, it crashes, and then

732
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:06.360
we go and we find where that
crash happens, so we can rescue and

733
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:09.639
preserve the necessary elements of the sun, which is why we have the sun.

734
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:13.760
That's why the Sun's on all the
Egyptian gods and goddesses. That's why

735
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.920
the sun is such an important symbol
in the ancient world as it is today,

736
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.400
because we wanted to preserve its essence, hoping that it would come back

737
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.800
the next day. Not that simple. I knew it was going to come

738
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:29.400
back, but it was sympathetic magic. So the disc rises, it crashes,

739
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.119
we preserve it, and rather than
getting technological blessings, we get the

740
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.679
blessings of life and warmth and light. So I think that whether it's the

741
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:43.400
sun or it's the sun, un
orn or it's roswell, the roswell crash.

742
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:51.000
We're dealing with the same motifs here. Absolutely the archetypical manifestation of things

743
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.519
that has been happening since the beginning
of time. You got it over and

744
00:57:54.559 --> 00:58:00.440
over again. No Bultruth says,
I took excessive amount of that night.

745
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.760
I was nineteen, and that's when
I fought it. As difficult as it

746
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:07.800
was to mention, I highly believe
that I'm protected. Yeah, I'm interested

747
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:14.920
to hear if anybody else has had
any experiences with the hat man and the

748
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:21.239
comments, because it seems to be
a very common woman not so much common,

749
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.400
but there's several documentaries on it.
People have made documentaries on the hat

750
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:30.599
Man. A lot of people have
claimed to have these types of experiences,

751
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:34.840
and like my frame growing up was
telling me that exact same thing pretty much

752
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.480
happened to him as well. No
bull truth. But before we go,

753
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.559
I want to play this. I
want to play the UFO clip one more

754
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:51.719
time and if anybody wants to make
me famous off of this clip of this

755
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:57.519
weird, strange boomerang shaped craft that
I've recorded in my backyard with night vision

756
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.559
goggles in twenty twenty two. Please
hit me up, Please come through,

757
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:06.760
send me an email, raise my
giants at outlook dot com. Let's get

758
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.239
this thing out there, guys.
Now's the time. Now's the time on

759
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:17.199
World UFO Day to make writer Lea
famous support the movement from his footage of

760
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:24.960
the strange boomerang shaped flying v craft
that was captured in May of twenty twenty

761
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:31.480
two in my backyard, that had
several witnesses that's seen it and can corroborate

762
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:38.239
that this evidence is one and I
captured it, and I seen it as

763
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:43.239
it was happening through the night vision
goggles. Okay, to find somebody who

764
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:49.559
can remote view the obvious aliens that
are on board that ship. Yeah,

765
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.079
I guess that's probably what I needed
to say. I needed to say that

766
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:59.880
I was in telepathic communication with the
occupants of the craft as I was seeing

767
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.880
it, was downloading information directly into
my brain about all the knowledge and all

768
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.320
the secrets of the universe. And
I'm coming out with a new book next

769
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:15.000
week, so please buy that,
and that's where I'll be revealing that top

770
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.679
secret information that I got from the
aliens in the craft that night in May

771
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.880
of twenty twenty two that I found
two words. You forgot star ced.

772
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:30.159
You got to throw that in there, and you're golden star seed, crystalline

773
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:39.480
twelve strand DNA activation. We get
Lori Eisenhower in here. The Cosmic Wars.

774
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:43.559
What did she say, The Electric
Wars? Electric Wars, Yeah,

775
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:45.800
electric Wars. Yeah. Yeah,
they're like the gear Wars from Rick and

776
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:51.679
Morty. Dang, Bro, you
don't know about the Electric Wars, Bro,

777
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:58.840
come on. Called one of the
aliens the Aquafarians. I thought that

778
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.960
it was strangely similar to the aquatina
water bottle that she had, But you

779
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:08.960
know that was just me. Aquafarians
and the Electric Electric Wars, the Oryan

780
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:15.400
Wars, the Marian Wars, the
Atlantean Wars. There's a whole bunch of

781
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.840
aliens, Dasanians, the Gatoradeites.
You know, there's a whole bunch of

782
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:25.320
them power Raidites. Yeah all right, Ryan, thanks so much for coming

783
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:30.280
on, brother. I hope everyone
enjoyed story time here at today. I

784
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:36.159
thought it was a fun show and
a way to celebrate World a UFO Day

785
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.960
on July second, twenty twenty four. This one is going to go down

786
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:49.880
in history as as one of the
best UFO days in recent times. One

787
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.920
of the best world UFO days on
a podcast, even though we're not together.

788
01:01:57.079 --> 01:01:59.400
It's been amazing, my friend,
and thanks for coming on. I

789
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.159
appreciate your time this evening. Let
people know where they can find you online.

790
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:05.800
Yeah, we should, you know, and we should do something instead

791
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.840
a World Star hip hop, we
should have World Star UFO or something and

792
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:15.360
people can upload all their videos and
stuff like that. Remember that Ring Do

793
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:20.039
you remember the what was the controversy
with the ring camera? Didn't you send

794
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:23.000
me a video recently of something weird
that was captured on a ring camera or

795
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:27.440
something like that? I didn't.
We weren't talking about that. I thought

796
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:30.400
for sure. We talked about,
well, there was like a UFO or

797
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.239
an alien whoever can capture an alien
on the ring camera? There was like

798
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:38.400
a contest. Yeah, but what
triggered that something that someone sent I don't

799
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:43.039
remember. And then I said,
oh, no, this is one.

800
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:46.679
Maybe it wasn't you, but I
remember talking to you about it that the

801
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:55.000
Ring camera did like a contest to
see who could fake the most outrageous alien

802
01:02:55.159 --> 01:03:00.360
or UFO thing that we could make
money. Yeah, and then now some

803
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:06.559
of that footage is coming out and
being used within the community as like real

804
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:14.639
footage. Never it never ends Jesus
Christ that that might not have been you,

805
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:16.480
but I remember mentioning it to you. It might have been about the

806
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.039
person that sent me some kind of
footage, and then I was talking to

807
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:22.559
you about that footage and I was
like, oh no, this is fake

808
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:27.440
ring camera footage because I did a
contest a few years back. But anyway,

809
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.119
go on with where they can find
you. Yeah, the Secret Teachings

810
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:36.440
Dot infos, my website or social
media email, the free archive, my

811
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books, all of that's on the
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the show Monday through Friday, that
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if you want to listen to the
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is on at ten pm Pacific tonight, I am talking about this subject,

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going to go into the history of
the archetypes and the metaphors and all of

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that about UFOs. Thank you so
much writer for having me, and also

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be at Roswell this week if anybody's
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fun storytime show, Happy World,
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was a doozy Thanks for coming on
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working on documentary number two, and
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updates on that coming very soon.
The shows might kind of slow down here

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for a little while while I'm working
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you guys next time. I hope
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so much trying talk to you guys
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