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Really appreciate you guys. So with us today we have returning guests,
friend of the show, author, veteran radio personality and producer of the show
The Secret Teachings on Ground zero Dot Radio. Ryan Gable, Welcome back to
the show. It's good to see you, my friend. Good to see
YouTube writer. It's the first time we've spoken since that conference to I believe,
yes it is, and it's always a joy and an honor and a
privilege to speak with you, my friend, and today is a very special
day, Ryan. Very special day is so special special day that I didn't
even know that it was a day until today, which is the Worldwide UFO
Day. And we're primed and we're ready to go. It's an amazing celebration
of people just telling stories and sharing their experiences with UFOs. So we're gonna
have a little story time here today. And what I found really fascinating,
and I googled World UFO Day, and it's just really funny to me because
up here in the right hand corner of this says UFO Day is an awareness
day for people to gather together and watch the skies for unidentified flying objects.
This day is celebrated by some on June twenty fourth and others on July second.
They can't even agree on what day that they're supposed to be celebrating this,
Ryan. The community is so fragmented that they can't even agree on the
specific day that they need to be celebrating World UFO Day. Some say is
June twenty fourth, others say it's July second. That's not a good representation
of what the community is and how the community works. I don't know what
is I wonder what the reason is for having the twenty fourth as opposed to
the second, because the I mean, I was thinking for a moment that
it was Marie Island, which predated Roswell. But Marie Island that incident was
on the twenty first, So maybe we should add the twenty first the list
as well, unless there's another major incident on the twenty fourth. Is there
something we're missing? I thought it went Murray Island Roswell, unless there's something
in between that we're missing. I think it went Murray. Was it Murray
Island first or was it Kenneth Arnold's experiences first? Well, Murray Island was
on the twenty twenty first, Kenneth Arnold on the twenty fourth, so I'm
guessing that his sightings were the basis for that claim. But I think he
investigated the Murray Island incident after the fact. But so it went Maurray Island
and then what he saw and then the Roswell incident. So I get that
that that it has to be why so we really should have three days twenty
first, twenty fourth and the second. Yeah, Kenneth Arnald was June twenty
fourth, nineteen forty seven. And you said the Murray Island incident was when
three days prior twenty first of June, So Murray Island. Were they getting
this this July second day thing? Oh, July second, I don't know,
I'm not sure. Yeah, July second is today. Maybe that's the
uh, well, well, I know, I'm not sure where they get
that from, unless it has something to do with the lead up to Roswell.
Because if you read I mean, my god, there are how many
different versions of the Roswell story. And I think the real for lack of
a better term, Roswell scholars would say that there's an official timeline and then
there's just a bunch of other people that kind of make things up and exaggerate
or don't really have the details. But if you read some of the original
reports, right, there's different stories and where like what happened then when it
happened. You know, there's debris that supposedly laid in a field for multiple
days. Some people there were actually multiple there were multiple parts of the area
that had debris, like multiple crashes, and there were different days in which
things happened, like when the thing supposedly crashed, when the debris was discovered
when the police or the military were finally contacted. So it's like a multi
day thing. So I'm guessing July second probably starts off the Roswell incident,
maybe when the object actually crashed and they estimate, and then you know,
later on like this weekend as the Roswell Festival. Later on the seventh or
eighth is when we sort of mark the day that the military came out and
said it got a flying saucer. No, actually it's a weather balloon.
I don't know's you know, it's the same thing actually about when we talk
about Roswell as like this is also the fourth of July week right as Americans
July. It's the same thing with the fourth of July. It's not like
it's a conspiracy. But July fourth was only the day in which Congress read
the first draft or one of the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence.
July third, a day before that, was when the first draft was prepared,
and the July second was actually Independence Day really because July second was when
Congress actually declared independence. Then they wrote a draft and they read it,
you know, another day after that on the third, and then the fourth
is when we celebrated, but nobody really signed it until August second. So
it's kind of a similar thing to the Roswell incident. You have like the
crash, and then you have like the reports, and then you have like
the military shows up. Then you have like the official story, then you
have the other official story, and then it just all kind of gets jumbled
and then we say, well, we're going to pick a day to celebrate
it. It's kind of a similar thing almost like every single holiday ever.
Kind that's kind of like what Christmas is supposed to be the celebration of Jesus'
birth, but Jesus was born in like supposedly, well it's supposed to have
been in the summertime. We're in the spring or late summer. It was
around the summer months, like June, July, August, September area,
So it's like, you know, what are we doing with that? So,
you know, Richard Doughty said that, uh, that there was an
archaeological team that was out there doing an archaeological dig near the Roswell crash and
that they got a report that something had fell out of this guy and then
they went to excavate the craft as well. Oh, there was an archaeological
dig. Archaeological dig. We know we can trust Richard Doughty, so we're
gonna have to look into that. Yep, you said an archaeological team was
out there excavating when randomly the saucer crashed, and then they just skipped off
to go investigate and uh and dig and do an excavation of where the craft
landed down crash. Your listeners know how well they can trust Richard Doughty.
Though I would say Richard Doty actually might be more credible than Corey Good,
So, like, genuinely might he might be more credible because at least he
mixes like true stories with fake garbage. That's how the intel counterintelligence people work.
Corey Good just made it all up. But that's a whole other story.
So in light of this UFO day, regardless of whatever day you celebrated
on, because it wouldn't be right Ryan if we didn't share some of our
experiences that we have probably never mentioned to celebrate the event. Yeah, we
got to be in celebration mode, dude. So have you ever seen anything
strange in this guy? I have. I have seen a handful of things,
most of them I think I could identify after the fact. But if
we're talking about UFOs that are completely unidentified, I think I've seen like maybe
a handful, But I can also correlate those directly with military installations, Like
I saw something very bizarre a very long time ago when I lived in Florida,
when I was in the Tampa Saint Pete area, but there's also mcdal
Air Force Base right there. I also saw a very strange exotic type craft.
It was black and chevron shaped, similar to what Arnold sawbeck in the
late forties, and that was being accompanied by two I don't know what type
of fighter jets they were, but two US military fighter jets. But that
was also out at Rachel, Nevada, which is right across the way from
Area fifty one. Maybe it was reverse engineered alien technology. I don't know,
But I've never really seen anything out of the ordinary that wasn't over or
near a military installation personally. Now, I've had other paranoral experiences that I
wouldn't be able to quantify in the same way, But for UFOs, those
are my experiences. What about you, it seems like it's all over military
basis. Yeah, there's been a few kind of strange things that I seen
whenever I was younger. I was really young, and me and my dad
were driving back to our home that was about eight miles outside of town,
kind of out in the middle of nowhere, and we were getting ready to
turn onto our road, and I remember this very vividly because I couldn't we've
both seen it, and it was this thing that was hovering I don't know,
maybe not very high up off the ground, maybe three to four hundred
feet. It was like it looked like arches almost like I described it as
like flying McDonald's arches is what it looked like. And this was in like
the late nineties, and there wasn't really any drones. Drones weren't a thing
at that time. These people didn't know about drones at that time. And
it just hovered there and we literally looked at it from the from really far
away. We stared at it all the way until we turned on the end
of the road, and then we turned around and looked back at it,
and it didn't move. It stayed in the exact same spot, like three
to four hundred feet up off of the ground. And then later on me
and my dad talked about it and we were like, why didn't we just
stop? And then we pull over to the side of the road and get
out and like, look at this thing and look at it better. But
that's one of my only experiences. And then two years ago, in twenty
twenty two, I was I was in Colorado and we were having this get
together, this little party, and one of the people that came to the
party had these night vision goggles and she whipped them out and she was like,
yeah, just scan around the backyard or whatever. So whipped out the
night vision goggles. Scanning around the backyard, and as I was looking through
the night vision goggles, I seen this weird boomerang type looking craft thing.
And as I was seeing it, I was mentioning it to everyone because there
is an audio can't be recorded on the night vision goggles. It's just a
video, and it was recording, and I was like telling them and I'm
like, looking at this thing and I'm trying to follow it is best that
I can. And I'm like, hey, there's like a weird freaking boomerang
just floating through the sky right now. And I was like, can you
guys see it? And they were like, no, they can see it
with their naked eye and then I don't think that they believed me, and
I was like, nah, I'm really getting something on this night vision goggles.
And then the next day they ripped the video footage up off of the
night vision goggles and sure enough it was right there. And I actually have
a video. I have that clip to play for you guys. I've played
it one time before on the show with Chris Albeck, which was like,
I don't know, like two years ago, almost well, maybe like a
year ago. I'm not too sure on the exact date of that show,
but I played it on there. I posted it on my social media's so
it's been up there for a while. And Ryan, I don't know how
I have not gotten famous off of this amazing piece of UFO footage. People
have gotten famous for much less. But we're ever gonna watch this footage.
This is real, correct, This isn't You're not joking. You're not making
no joking this So you can see it coming in from the top left hand
corner. It's like in a boomerang V shaped, which is fun. That's
also the same type of craft. Like I think it was the Phoenix lights
in the late nineties. It was described as being just like that. We're
similar to that, and I try and follow it as long as I can,
and I was telling them, I was like, hey, there's like
a weird boomerang. There's some kind of weird V shaped craft that's going across
the sky. And this is really big. It can't be a bird.
There's nothing flapping on it. It's just a V shaped boomerang. So it's
craft. It's it's not SpaceX, it's not a satellite. Then I lose
it right there. It's gone went out of uh, went out of you.
What do you think it was? I don't know. I have absolutely
no idea. That's really why I didn't go any further with it or send
it to people or you know, trying to make a big deal about it,
because I really don't know what it was. I mean, it could
could have been some kind of cloaked type of military craft. But I always
think things are really strange and weird when they're only picked up in a photographer
they're only picked up in a video format. Because I was telling them as
I was recording it what I was seeing, and I was like, can
you guys see it? And there was like ten people standing in the backyard,
and I asked them all. I was like, are you guys seeing
this? And I didn't want to give them the goggles because then they would
have lost focus on where it was and they would have been all over the
place with it, and I would have not gotten that minute long footage that
I did. Sometimes those things appear because they move like on video or photos,
and we don't see them until appter the fact because they move so fast
or they're very faint, you're not really focused on it until you watch the
hard you know, video or photograph after the fact. Is it's kind of
strange because if you know, you read about the lore of vampires or certain
other supernatural entities, they don't show up in like a mirror or don't show
up in a photograph. And these objects might show up in a photograph,
but you might not see them outside of the camera. Just an interesting observation.
Yeah, it's weird. I've always thought that is. I don't know
what to make of things that can't be seen with the naked eye but show
up on film. But that is one real footage. It was not edited,
doctor, no filters were put over it, and the person that I
got this from has the raw, raw footage, and that's what that is.
I just reprocessed it because I needed to put my little raised by a
Giant's watermark in the bottom right hand so someone that someone doesn't steal it and
make a million dollars off of it. Yeah. Yeah, So what do
you think? I mean, do you what do you think as anybody ever
looked at that professional wise and said that they have an idea? Nope,
No, no one's ever commented on And it's just kind of sometimes I forget
about it. Actually, then I was like, oh, hey, I
have this really cool piece of footage that probably not a lot of people have
seen. You got to throw some other nonsense into it, maybe people would
watch it. It's funny because I'm sure that there are This is where I
get a little bit paranoid. I feel that through algorithms and through well modern
technology, not to mention previous government programs, intelligence, military programs to intentionally
disinform the public through media, through Hollywood, through Disney and UFO groups,
et cetera. But there's probably a lot of people in the world, like
you writer, who have something like that and it doesn't go viral. And
nobody cares because your name's writer Lee. It's not Jeremy Corbel, it's not
David Brush right, and your video and on I mean, in my opinion,
from what I mean, I trust you, and I from what I've
seen that video one other time you played it for me. That's a hell
of a lot more interesting than the jellyfish UFO that Jeremy Corbel showed. I'm
not attacking Jeremy Corbell. I'm just saying that, like the stuff that he
shows, like those flares at the military base in twenty nine Palms, very
clearly an altered video, very clearly flares, and they completely took the thing
out of context. And he's smart. He had to have known he took
it out of context, had to have known that that video was not what
he said that it was. And yet that gets into the mainstream press and
yours doesn't. And it's not just you. There's a bunch of other people,
I would imagine somewhere in the world. It's probably a bunch of people
in the United States and a bunch of other countries that have hard evidence like
that, and nobody cares to see it because this you know, a certain
person doesn't present it. Bob Lazar is not interesting in your video, I
don't think Rider, so nobody cares. That's the problem with a lot of
this stuff. People say, where's the evidence at Well, it's probably on
hard drives of people like Rider, who you know, you don't really hawk
it and you don't really do it, you know, you know, and
you don't really get it out there because you don't know what it is and
you're not trying to sell something, you know. That's my opinion. I
feel like there's probably a lot of people that have really good evidence, a
hell of a lot better than what the Navy's probably shown us, or a
hell of a lot better than what Jeremy Corbell shows us every time he wants
to make a make a few dollars on the UFO documentary. I mean,
I feel like that's got to be the case. And as Tony also did
the triangle Craft UFO where he where the aperture of the camera was just in
a triangle lens that made it look like that there was a flying triangle craft
there, you go, I know, and like the thing is this The
guy's not I don't think he's stupid, so he knows what he's doing,
or maybe he's naive. I don't. No again, I'm not attacking Jeremy
Corbell. I just don't. I don't know why people like him can get
away with video after video after video that can be disproven, and yet there
are a lot of people like you who have things like that and what he
cares like I I mean, it's purely speculative. But I bet you if
you stopped Jeremy in the hallway of Contact in the desert this year, when
you have five camera angles on him, you know, and you said,
hey, I want you to look at this video. I mean, I
highly doubt he would have given a damn. And if he did, you
know what's he gonna do is gonna put it into the next documentary. It's
not his video, so he doesn't care. I mean, I think that's
really what's wrong with ufology. And there's so many assumptions we have about this
stuff, like, oh, if someone had a camera, they take a
picture. Well, there's probably a lot of those pictures, but we just
don't believe they're real because there's too many Richard Doughties in the world. That's
true. I was so shocked. I think everyone that seeing Jerremany Corbell at
that conference. They were like, what is going on right now? Dude?
He they they were going through the conference and he had like an entire
freaking camera crew with him. He had a boom mic operator guy that was
like in front of him, like running after him. I was like,
what is going on right now? That was wild? But we're gonna We're
gonna do that next year with me. But it's gonna just be cell phones,
you know. I had one. I had one other experience that I
wouldn't call it. I mean, I know that it traditionally would fall into
the UFO category, but I don't know if I would call it UFO.
I went to a campground I think it was called it was something Bear campground
outside Monument Valley in Utah, southern Utah, and it was it's own by
this native family and the guy that it was him and his sister that owned
it. It was passed down generationally and I stayed the night and there was
somebody else with me and we both saw this, and then the next morning
the guy came over to see if we were okay, like if everything the
campground was nice, everything was okay. Before we left and I said,
yeah. I said, I'm just curious, do you ever see anything weird
around here? And then he described what I had seen the night before,
and I hadn't said anything else to him, so i'd know that there's some
relevancy to what I saw. What I saw was over it was butte where
the campground is. I saw this light come up from from the butte and
then it moved back and forth very quickly, something that you would see maybe
like you know, Fox Malder saw at Area fifty one or something in the
X Files, you know, or at a military base sees little lights going
back and forth and then they would go up and down. And the guy
the next morning said, he said he saw that stuff when he was a
kid. He's always seen it, and they don't consider it, at least
he doesn't, and his family doesn't consider it to be alien or extraterrestrial.
He said, he can. He thinks that that's their ancestors, that their
spirits, that they're not some kind of mechanical craft. They're not flying saucers.
They're like orbs of you know, spirits or the soul, which is
traditionally like George, not George Well, Carl Jung there's a couple of people,
I think Carl Young was one of them, talked about the circular spherical
object and how that's a symbol. It's always been a symbol of the soul.
So this is what this native guy and his family believed, that these
little golden orbs, gold and yellow white orbs, that they were basically their
ancestors and they were there protecting them. So I don't know if i'd call
that a you know, a traditional UFO, because there's so much an association
with flying discs and all that. But I saw that that was like three
years ago. I saw that. I don't know what my opinion is on
it, except I take what he said into consideration very strongly, and I
have no other context for it. So I can't say I believe it's that.
But I don't think that it was a flying saucer, and I don't
think that it was aliens. Yeah, that triggers another thought in my mind
because I had an experience probably three over three years ago, where I walked
out I was working a graveyard shift, and I walked out into the backyard
to take you the trash out, and I walked around to the front of
the building, and I seen these string of lights that came up out from
behind the horizon and then they moved up in like a forty five degree angle.
Then they flattened out, and then they moved in a straight line across.
But they weren't very far away, and the first thing I thought was,
Oh, maybe this is like starlink satellites or whatever, you know,
whatever Elon Musk is doing. But they weren't that far are away from me,
and I thought that that was really interesting. And I stood out there
and watched them, like one at a time, come up out of forty
five degreen angle and just level out straight and then just go right across,
like for fifteen minutes. There was like that, many of them just zep
zep and going across. But they were like orbs. There were like little
there were like balls of light gold yellow white, kind of light white and
just straight white. I guess that's kind of similar to what I saw.
What do you make of that? I don't know, I don't know what
that was it was. You know, I don't like talking talking about this
stuff too much because like I'm not, you know, trying to you know,
monetize these experiences. And then speculating on about what they were just feeds
other people's thoughts and theories, and then they think that they know more than
you, and then they tell you what it was that you saw. I
know, I know, I know, I personally know exactly what you mean.
Yeah, like, oh, that was the extraterrestrial gray ships from Zay
to the particular that I've seen twenty four times in my life whenever I was
really young up until yesterday, I saw them, you know what I mean.
And then that influences your thought process behind what you think that it was.
So I think a lot of times could have been dark Fleet TM could
have been dark Fleet, dark Fleet trademark, Yeah, or light Fleet could
have been one of the fleets. One of the fleets, said, Omega
Fleet, Omega Fleet, Star Command, you know the Empire, you know
the Enterprise Deep Space Fleet, Yeah, galctly Command, the thirty three Confederation
of Planets. Mhm. Never stops, dude, I feel the same way
that you do. That's why I don't normally talk about stuff like that too
often. But this is a special This is a special show. And you
know, World UFO DA World UFO Day. Maybe we go wherever we want.
We can talk about whatever we want here. This is a safe space,
all right. Uh, what's some you mentioned some paranormal experiences before?
Well, you just earlier you mentioned that you had some paranormal experiences. And
I believe in the paranormal. I think it's real. I think it may
be more of a psychological condition than it is something physical outside of you that's
manipulating things. I think, if anything, it would be to infiltrate into
your mind, to alter your perception of reality, to give you the perception
that something is going on. But that's just a kind of a different take
on it. But what have you Is there anything that you'd like to share
that maybe you haven't talked about before that seems like that it was unexplainable or
that you have absolutely no idea what it was. Story time, baby,
Yeah, I have a very small number of select stories. Nothing I thought
about before the show tonight, and I think I've only talked about them three
times, sort of outside of you know, the closed walls of where I
live. I mentioned them to you one time. I've mentioned them on two
shows I did in the past, like a long time ago, and then
recently, actually a friend of mine called me was talking to me about stuff
like that, and I mentioned it to them. But other than that,
yeah, I've never really talked much about these, for the same reason as
we discussed with the UFOs. But when I was a kid, I saw
and have a very vivid, clear memory of a handful of things, some
malicious or at least that was my interpretation, and some a little more benevolent,
not so malevolent, not so malicious. I saw things that also were
not very defined, sort of like a black, misty sort of entity spirit.
I don't know what you'd call it. I have no idea what to
call it, but I've seen things like that. I think the most well
defined thing that I would that I would think that listeners would understand, is
a series of things that I saw at my great grandma's house up in West
Virginia, where you're from. I was in Teralda, which is outside Morgantown,
well very far outside Morgantown, outside Kingwood, and I was in the
room with my sister when I was very young, and I vividly remember this,
and I will lay in bed. There's two beds laying in bed,
and the beds are facing the back of the house where there's like a closet.
It was a big room, big house, big big room, and
there was a closet which could have doubled as a second room that was kind
of a walk in closet where they had put a lot of stuff for storage.
So sitting or laying in the bed, and you know, facing that
way, I remember seeing this almost etherory but some sort of there but not
there defined humanoid form in the corner. And it was black, all black,
and it had on what I could only describe as what people would say
are the suits of you know, the men in black. And it had
no face, which is now what we would maybe call People would say,
that's slender man. And it had a hat on, which is what most
people would call hat man, what Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback, was running
away from. And it stood there and I could I can still see it
today. It's really scary. But at the same time I knew that it
wasn't really going to do anything to me. But it was very disturbing that
I'm looking at this thing that now years later, I think it was probably
two thousand and twelve, so probably about twelve years ago, I was reading
a book by Nick Redfern, and this was me. What was I three
years out of high school. So I was reading a book by Nick Redfern,
and I came across those stories of the at Man and I thought,
oh my god, that's exactly what I saw when I was a kid.
And the only person I told that too was well. I said to my
mom the next morning, down at breakfast, what I had saw, and
my mom just vehemently denied it. And I remember my grandma explaining to me
what she used to see because that used to be her room. We were
at my great grandma's house and this was, you know, her daughter,
my grandma, and my grandma explained to me the exact same thing that I
saw the night before. And so when I had that vivid memory and then
my grandma confirms it for me, and then many many I mean I was
a kid, I was very young, and then like way later, like
a decade later at least, but now ten or so years ago, twelve
years ago, I'm reading this book and here's a description of exactly what I
saw as a kid that was cooperated by my grandma in the same spot,
in the same room that she grew up in. So those things I think
validated that for me, validated in the sense that I have no idea what
it was. I would describe it as the hat Man, and I would
describe it as very scary, especially for a child. But what exactly it
was, I have no idea, and I don't think anybody in the world,
no paranormal researcher. You might have people they get close to developing a
theory, but nobody really knows what that stuff is. And we're talking pre
internet, you know, we're talking pre I mean, these stories have been
told globally for a very long time, pre international travel, pre internet,
pre cell phones. So these are universal, which makes me think that what
we're dealing with here, just like with UFOs, is a universal awareness,
a universal you know, like the sun, it's universal. Everybody interacts with
it. So you don't need some sort of continental travel or intercontinental travel or
you know, big ships to traverse the oceans, or spaceships or planes or
anything like that to get around the world. Everybody sees the sun and they
develop their own mythos from the sun and the moon, and you know the
rain and the you know, the wind and all the things that naturally happen.
We all develop, you know, different gods and goddesses, We develop
different myths and stories, and I think these are things that are slightly out
of the realm of the physical, but they're things that people have experienced for
so long that we find these stories and every virtually every culture, we might
just you know, call them something different, whether it's something sort of abnormal,
like a thought form. You know that Jews have the gullum, the
Tibetans have the the the Tulpa, and European alchemists had various names for similar
thought forms or universally, that idea was they were like some kind of air
spirit, which then also ties in with UFOs and aliens and the manifestation of
these things. And then you know, as a kid too, I would
imagine, you know, I'm a little bit more open to suggestibility, but
a little bit more open also for lack of a better way to describe,
at the spiritual realm, and that gets more solidified as you get older and
you lose contact with that. And then this was also in the middle of
the night, I always had trouble sleeping, so it was a good chance
that my brain's produced in some of those chemicals and I'm in a different place
and I'm scared, kid, I'm nervous, and I manifest and see this.
My sister, I don't think ever saw it, but I saw it.
So you know, it's probably a combination of a lot of things.
And that and the psychology of that, I think writer is one of my
most favorite things. I think that that really describes what we're dealing with.
My final comment on that, to wrap my thoughts up, are that it's
like when you look at a gray alien, you know, people on the
Discovery Channel ancient aliens. I mean you've probably heard the gray alien described as
being sort of feet aslike it's like an undeveloped you know human, you know,
no hair, the eyes, the mouth, the ear if it has
a mouth to ears, it's not fully developed, so it's fetal like it's
I mean, I think that's sort of you know, it's like an unconscious
projection of us, because those little gray aliens want the same thing. They
don't want to blow up the world with nuclear weapons. They don't want to
pollute the planet, and that's what we want. And I think it's it's
kind of like the homunculus in alchemy. So there's a whole string of connections
here. But to summarize my point, that's probably my most memorable experience and
providing all that context. I do that so that listeners can understand that it's
not just some story that I'm telling for awe, like, I'm trying to
provide context and be objective about it to explain that I don't know what this
was, but if you study it like I have long enough, and you've
had those experiences which probably inspired me to do the study in the first place.
Whether I know that or not, there's definitely something there. And I
wonder how many people listening have had similar experiences. And I mean, now
I wonder I think you've told me that. I wonder what your experiences are,
if you ever had anything like that happen or something else. Yeah,
if anyone is signing you of those experiences, please just let us know in
the comments for sure. Jenna Banana says, my favorite, how's it going,
Banana, Good to see you. I haven't seen you in a minute.
My favorite so far is, of course, the banana shape ufo.
She literally has a video of a banana shaped ufo that she sent me.
It's only in like reframes I wish I could pull it up, but I
don't have a Facebook logged in on this computer. But it looks like a
banana. She's like she's driving in her in her vehicle and she has her
phone out or a camera or whatever, and she's filming and this thing just
like passes right by the front of the car, and whenever it's slowed down
and you see the frames of it, it looks like a flying banana.
It's wild, isn't that something that's also describeding a lot of the UFO lore.
I mean, Jack Vaile documents a lot of strange UFO cases and his
you know, a passport to make on your book. But there are cases
where these strange not a banana, but something something equivalent to a banana lands
in a farmer's field. It's like an egg, you know, lands in
the field. Or maybe that's how they just describe it. But these weird,
bizarre craft that just don't make any sense. And like there's actually a
lot of cases where if the craft's not bizarre, the people to get out
of the craft are like, yo, can we get a piece a toast?
Can we have like some peanut butter? Like they ask for kind of
like Ben in Black ask for really strange things. So I don't know,
maybe there's banana banana UFOs or something like that, but that's really interesting.
There's something she's got some kind of footage of a banana ufo. It's wild.
But wasn't there like stories of like fish raining fish Charles stuff? Yeah?
Was that Charles Fort was talking about that. I got his Book of
the Damned right here, and it's documents. He's got a bunch of books,
but it documents all these cases of things like that, stuff falling out
of the sky, gold coins, you know, insects, like insects falling
fish. I don't know if he talks about the you know, the different
colors of snow, but there's like multi colored snow and all kinds of stuff
like that. I think there was a turtle one too, where turtles just
fell out of the sky, a bunch of turtles, probably because of some
type of weather phenomenon. It's happened. It happened with scorpions during a dust
storms here in Arizona. Things like that. Yeah, as far as things
that you know happened to me when I was growing up, I've spoken about
it a couple of times before that, I would see beings come out of
the walls late at night when I was sleeping with my parents in the room,
like faces. I would literally see them coming out of the walls.
They was surround me and like look at me all night. And I think
that's what where I didn't like I couldn't sleep. I think that was some
of the first things that happened. And I've always liked nighttime. I'm always
like to sleep in really late, and I've always been like that. I
probably will never change. I hate waking up early. But that and there's
a few other things that were really interesting that I was thinking back on.
It was like whenever I was younger, like whenever I was growing up,
you used your imagination a lot, you know. And I took martial arts
when I was younger, and I would like beat up like pillows and stuff,
like pretending that they're like people. I play like you know, Dragon
ball Z with with pillows or then I was fighting ninjas or like whatever,
and like I would throw, like kick, kick, throw up pillows and
kick them or like punch pillows or whatever. And I would also do that
with grocery bags, right, I would throw up like grocery bag and let
it fill up with like the air, and then like I would see how
many times I could like hit it and it would make that like swishing sound,
you know, like if you like hit like a grocery bag or whatever.
I remember leaning in bed at night and I would hear the noise of
the grocery bag like being hit. It was the weirdest, strangest thing ever.
But no one was awake. It sounded like it was happening in the
kitchen, and I'm like, what is going on here? And it was
like something was mimicking what I was doing. On Yeah, maybe like an
energy impression or an energy overlay or something like that. But I thought that
was really interesting. And really that's about it as far as like weird and
strange things happening when I was a kid. Now, I've had some very
interesting paranormal experiences later on in life, and some of the most haunted locations
in the world, like Waverley Hills Sanitarium in Louisville, Kentucky, Translingi Lunatic
Asylum, Western and West Virginia, Mountsville Penitentiary, and Mountsville, West Virginia.
The Rectory in Cincinnati, Ohio, the Prospect Place and trans Transville,
Ohio. So, I mean, I've had some really strange paranormal experiences.
I've never really seen a lot again. It's been like hearing strange things,
feeling strange things, and like a psychological effect of like being in like a
certain location. But one time I was with my dad and a group of
few people and we were investigating Waverley Hill Sanitarium in Louisville, Kentucky, which
is a huge freaking facility. It's like five stories and it has like a
balcony and everything. And we're on the third floor where at the end of
one of these wings. Because how the building is set up, it has
like this long, straight, narrow part and then has two wings on the
backside, and we're on the left hand side all the way down close to
one of the EXI doors. But the EXI doors doesn't open. There's no
electricity to this place. We're standing probably in the middle of the hallway on
the wing to the left, and there's five of us standing in this hallway
where the only people on this wing. Because the way the investigations worked,
they only let a certain amount of people on each floor and there's no way
to get out. The only way that you can get out is if you
go down to the basement and then you go through this tunnel and you go
back to the main hub of this building. There's no other access to the
entire facility. And we're standing there and all of us literally see because there's
corridors on either side of the hallway for patients. It was a tuberculosis hospital.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Waverley Hills Sanitarium, but it was
an old tuberculosis hospital. And the way that it worked back in the day
was that the doctors thought that they could cure tuberculosis by having open, like
open rooms that were that the sun could shine in and they would get natural
air into them. So the whole front part of the building is like open,
and then the back part is like kind of closed in. There was
like doors and stuff there. We're standing in the middle of the hallway and
we're all looking down the hallway, and simultaneously we see each room on both
sides of the hallway light up with light, and it's like something is flipping
on a light switch in each one of these rooms, and it gets halfway
to us. Then the entire hallway is just completely lit up, every room
on both sides of the hallway or lighting up simultaneously, one after the other.
It's like someone's just flipping on breaker switches. I assume that this place
had electricity, right, No, no electricity, run, no electricity,
no electricity, and no light bulbs, nothing. It's like completely empty building,
there's nothing in it. And it gets halfway to us and then simultaneously
it just all goes out at the exact same time, and like I'm like,
oh, bowing my dad, I'm like, yo, are you seeing
this? Like what's going on? I'm like shocked, you know, like
I don't know what is going on. And we all see it. There
was five of us there. We all said the exact same thing as what
happened. So that's one of my one of my favorite ones. Well,
you were obviously with somebody when that happened, too, so you can it's
not you know that it's not just your imagination or that you've misremembered something because
you were with someone else when that happened, someone close to you, which
I don't know if that's better or worse in terms of verifying things like this,
but I think a lot of people have probably had experiences like that and
they don't know what to make of them, and I wonder, I wonder
if that's part of the reason that there are so many I would just call
them con artists in these fields because they know that, you know, most
people have experienced something like this, and most of us are looking for answers
and science doesn't really provide us with answers. So if you fabricate a story
and you pray on people who have had experiences, that are I would say
legitimate for lack of a better word. You know, people are looking for
answers. People want to believe, they want to try and understand, and
I think that's why we get taken for a ride. So we have to
sort of be careful, you know, where we get our information from.
Yeah, that's why I don't like talking about any of that stuff, because
you know, again, people are just going to throw in their own two
cents on end and try and relate it to something else that they've heard,
something that they've probably never even experienced, something that they watch on a TV
show, and make it out to be that they're the ones that you know,
came up with it or they're the ones that did it, and then
it just increased the snowball effect of like nonsense, and then those ideas get
projected onto you and then before you know it, you're believing that you were
in a twenty back super space program that your age addressed, and that you
fought aliens in space for twenty years. You know, it's that quick,
Just like that stamp of a finger, you're in You need to go to
one of those mental asylums. Yeah, and then they want you to,
you know, pay them money to tell tell you what you experience. Like
no, bro, Like, I know what I experienced and I don't really
care to know what it was. It literally makes no difference to me what
it was. I just don't care. And if I think if more people
had that kind of outlook on it, I don't think we would have any
a lot of these problems that would do in this continting point an interesting point,
Well, I mean that's sort of I wouldn't say exactly, but that
is more and more how I've been approaching a lot of the subjects I discussed
on the Secret Teachings is by clarifying with the audience that what I'm doing is
not trying. I'm not trying to convince you of an idea or convince you
of a of a an ideology or a belief system. I'm simply presenting.
I mean, I have my own opinions, of course, but I present
information and then you know, you make you make of it what you will.
And I'm just going to show you here the records, here's the documentation,
here's a date, here's an article, and you know, you do
with it what you will. But those kinds of experiences, I mean,
I know people or I've known people in my life who have had experiences like
that. They don't want to talk about them because they either are afraid of
sounding crazy or I think a lot of times people are afraid of sounding not
crazy. And it's like you don't want to believe. Just so many people
that want to belie. There's a lot of people wo don't want to believe
because it's it changes your whole perception of the world, Like everything you've ever
been taught or you've assumed is true. If you believe that this is happening
to you, then you have to reassess all of that, and that's particularly
difficult for religious minded people. Nothing wrong with that, but it's particularly different
religious minded people, which is why when they see and experience things like that,
they attribute it to God, angels, demons, or the devil.
And they're probably not wrong. But that's it's interesting, you know. We've
always said it's interesting how depending on where how you grew up, you know,
or what your interests are, you have the same exact experience and the
way that you know, I describe the hat man might sound like the devil,
you know to some people. To me, I don't know what it
was because I don't have I'm not coming at it from a religious or a
euphological or a certain point of view of just there it is. I don't
know what it is to find other people who who have heard the same story
or have experienced something similar. Well, didn't didn't injured cold have a hat?
And didn't he wasn't he wearing a suit too? It was like men
in black? Yeah, and he asked for like the pen. People always
made a big deal about how he, you know, acted. Men in
black act very strange, very similar to those weird cases of these beings getting
out of UFOs and fields and being and being awkward and asking for strange things
or to us strange things. Well, truth brings up something really interesting.
I had a I hope he's being serious. I had one fight with me
the hat man Ryan. I ended up, he says, I ended up
on my knees bowing. I've heard that before. I've heard one of my
friends growing up said that that happened to him. He had an encounter with
the hat man and he ended up on his knees, like like the Lord's
prayer or something. And then it went away and never came back. And
then Noble also said never saw them again. Hm. You know, if
you use that, if you use that terminology, if you you know,
whether it's Lord's prayer or Jesus Christ or whatever. I mean, it works
if you believe that it works. I think doesn't mean that you're dealing with
strictly theological things. It's just you have this very strong belief. I mean,
I'm not Christian, but I've I've used those terms before too. You
know, I'm not a I'm not a practicing magician, but I also have
like ritual instruments. I find it interesting and I like to learn about things
and possess those things. But yeah, those terms or Jesus Christ, the
Lord's prayer or whatever. It is, like, it's very powerful. It
works, they're I mean, if you open up the Bible the whole it's
like that the TV show Ted. You don't know, if you saw the
Ted TV show where they're looking through the Bibles, he's like turning this,
turn to the spells. That's the spells it is. It's just it's a
bunch of spells and incantations and things like that. I watched the you're talking
about the series on Peacock. Yeah, the show. Yeah, yeah,
I watched like the first three or four episodes. I thought it was really
funny, but then I kind of forgot about it. Oh maybe you didn't
see the one where they were looking at the Bible. That was really funny.
But yeah, it has power. Yeah, And I don't know if
that's because of an agregoric type of reality, because people has put a lot
of good energy into the name of Jesus and good energy behind the Bible,
that it somehow works in that type of fashion. I mean that seems more
common sense and critical thinking to me that people, over generations and generations of
people have put nothing but good and positive energy behind the Bible and behind Jesus's
name and behind the Lord's prayer. That because it doesn't really make any sense
that a certain verse would work against like everything, like it what if it's
a what if it's a Muslim demons? Because would you have to would you
have to recite the Muslim equivalent of the Lord's prayer? It's a good question.
I think it's because, yes, one, it's agrigoric, and that's
partly you know, well, it's completely but also partly a matter of what
you believe works, which I think is part of the agrigor. But I
think another part of it is, just like we said earlier, whether you're
Muslim, Christian, or something else, we're all dealing with the same exact
forces. We just from our own perspective see them differently from the way that
we were raised, the language we use. And I think I think a
one piece of evidence that that's the case is that, you know, the
name Jesus is not at all close to the original name of that character of
that person. You know, there was no Jay in Hebrew, so they
didn't call him Jesus. His name was closer to Yeshua. And then in
Greek it would have been Eshus and very close to Zeus is Zeus, and
then that became Jesus. So I mean, if you were laying in bed
at night and you said, Yeshua protect me, probably not going to have
the same effect. If you were to say, you know, is Zeus
protect me, probably not going to have the same effect. If you say
Jesus has the same effect because you believe it. It's agregoric. Yes,
And then when you compare that to like this idea of the ancient world and
there's all these different demons and supernatural forces that people interact with on a daily
basis, and God is talking to people, Jesus would not have been the
name that was used at the time. So it's not the name itself per
se. It's the energy, the essence that you put into it. That
makes sense to me. That's what I think. That's what I've kind of
always thought that that's what's going on is a gregoric the belief and the energy
that's put behind the word as manifested in a positive light, which therefore helps
people in their time of need. Yes, I think so, Oh,
I think we should also mention as we're just about out of time do you
mind if I mentioned one thing about Roswell? Oh yeah, go ahead.
I was thinking today and I did my show in this that the Roswell incident.
I was trying to make my show topical. And I'm going to be
at the festival this weekend if anybody else is going to be there. But
the Roswell incident is, you know, the object that crashes and then we
recover it, and then we use reverse engineering to develop technologies from the reverse
engineer craft or the technology in the craft. And the whole narrative around this
is like they had velcrow and lasers and all this other stuff from the craft.
Right, So as very similar to the idea of you know, the
storyline, the arc of the story of Jesus, Right, Jesus comes into
the world and then Jesus you know, has a downpoint where he's beaten and
crucified to a cross, and then he's buried, and then he's resurrected.
They go to try to find his body, you know, find where the
crash happened. They find, you know, find that he's missing, and
then Jesus is resurrected and then he you know, blesses those who believed in
him and then says that you know, when I return, you know,
at a at a point in the future, people will be saved if you
believe in me. And that's you know, that's the story. It's it's
very similar. That idea is very similar to Roswell or any of these other
incidents. It's all part of the narrative of the myth of the Sun.
The sun comes up, moves across the sky, it crashes, and then
we go and we find where that crash happens, so we can rescue and
preserve the necessary elements of the sun, which is why we have the sun.
That's why the Sun's on all the Egyptian gods and goddesses. That's why
the sun is such an important symbol in the ancient world as it is today,
because we wanted to preserve its essence, hoping that it would come back
the next day. Not that simple. I knew it was going to come
back, but it was sympathetic magic. So the disc rises, it crashes,
we preserve it, and rather than getting technological blessings, we get the
blessings of life and warmth and light. So I think that whether it's the
sun or it's the sun, un orn or it's roswell, the roswell crash.
We're dealing with the same motifs here. Absolutely the archetypical manifestation of things
that has been happening since the beginning of time. You got it over and
over again. No Bultruth says, I took excessive amount of that night.
I was nineteen, and that's when I fought it. As difficult as it
was to mention, I highly believe that I'm protected. Yeah, I'm interested
to hear if anybody else has had any experiences with the hat man and the
comments, because it seems to be a very common woman not so much common,
but there's several documentaries on it. People have made documentaries on the hat
Man. A lot of people have claimed to have these types of experiences,
and like my frame growing up was telling me that exact same thing pretty much
happened to him as well. No bull truth. But before we go,
I want to play this. I want to play the UFO clip one more
time and if anybody wants to make me famous off of this clip of this
weird, strange boomerang shaped craft that I've recorded in my backyard with night vision
goggles in twenty twenty two. Please hit me up, Please come through,
send me an email, raise my giants at outlook dot com. Let's get
this thing out there, guys. Now's the time. Now's the time on
World UFO Day to make writer Lea famous support the movement from his footage of
the strange boomerang shaped flying v craft that was captured in May of twenty twenty
two in my backyard, that had several witnesses that's seen it and can corroborate
that this evidence is one and I captured it, and I seen it as
it was happening through the night vision goggles. Okay, to find somebody who
can remote view the obvious aliens that are on board that ship. Yeah,
I guess that's probably what I needed to say. I needed to say that
I was in telepathic communication with the occupants of the craft as I was seeing
it, was downloading information directly into my brain about all the knowledge and all
the secrets of the universe. And I'm coming out with a new book next
week, so please buy that, and that's where I'll be revealing that top
secret information that I got from the aliens in the craft that night in May
of twenty twenty two that I found two words. You forgot star ced.
You got to throw that in there, and you're golden star seed, crystalline
twelve strand DNA activation. We get Lori Eisenhower in here. The Cosmic Wars.
What did she say, The Electric Wars? Electric Wars, Yeah,
electric Wars. Yeah. Yeah, they're like the gear Wars from Rick and
Morty. Dang, Bro, you don't know about the Electric Wars, Bro,
come on. Called one of the aliens the Aquafarians. I thought that
it was strangely similar to the aquatina water bottle that she had, But you
know that was just me. Aquafarians and the Electric Electric Wars, the Oryan
Wars, the Marian Wars, the Atlantean Wars. There's a whole bunch of
aliens, Dasanians, the Gatoradeites. You know, there's a whole bunch of
them power Raidites. Yeah all right, Ryan, thanks so much for coming
on, brother. I hope everyone enjoyed story time here at today. I
thought it was a fun show and a way to celebrate World a UFO Day
on July second, twenty twenty four. This one is going to go down
in history as as one of the best UFO days in recent times. One
of the best world UFO days on a podcast, even though we're not together.
It's been amazing, my friend, and thanks for coming on. I
appreciate your time this evening. Let people know where they can find you online.
Yeah, we should, you know, and we should do something instead
a World Star hip hop, we should have World Star UFO or something and
people can upload all their videos and stuff like that. Remember that Ring Do
you remember the what was the controversy with the ring camera? Didn't you send
me a video recently of something weird that was captured on a ring camera or
something like that? I didn't. We weren't talking about that. I thought
for sure. We talked about, well, there was like a UFO or
an alien whoever can capture an alien on the ring camera? There was like
a contest. Yeah, but what triggered that something that someone sent I don't
remember. And then I said, oh, no, this is one.
Maybe it wasn't you, but I remember talking to you about it that the
Ring camera did like a contest to see who could fake the most outrageous alien
or UFO thing that we could make money. Yeah, and then now some
of that footage is coming out and being used within the community as like real
footage. Never it never ends Jesus Christ that that might not have been you,
but I remember mentioning it to you. It might have been about the
person that sent me some kind of footage, and then I was talking to
you about that footage and I was like, oh no, this is fake
ring camera footage because I did a contest a few years back. But anyway,
go on with where they can find you. Yeah, the Secret Teachings
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