WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:07.960 Streaming live on the iHeart Radio Whap. This is I on the Ball with 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.919 Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight. And welcome back 3 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:17.839 tying the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jacknzosen. 4 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:21.160 Now I hope he has some breaking news. This is High on the 5 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:26.600 Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight. All right, this is 6 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:30.480 for all the old guys out there, You, me, everybody else, 7 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:36.960 our listeners, everybody listens to us and waking up from their afternoon naps. 8 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:44.280 Brooks Robinson, the Hall of Fame third baseman for the Baltimore Orioles and in 9 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:50.560 my mind, the greatest fielding third baseman ever. You can say, Manny 10 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:55.159 Machado, you can say now Ripken, you can say a million guys. 11 00:00:55.240 --> 00:01:00.679 WHOA to me will always be the when I when I when I want to 12 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.480 give a third base a third basement a compliment and say you know that, 13 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.879 I call him Brooks nice play Brooks. I don't say nice play, cal 14 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:14.319 I don't say nice play, Manny, I say nice play Brooks Uh to 15 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:19.439 me, the all time grades sixteen Gold Gloves eight eighteen time All Star. 16 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:25.000 He was a World Series MVP, an American League MVP. But more than 17 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:29.359 anything, he's the guy that they coined the phrase the human vacuum cleaner for 18 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:38.319 us to nice play Elis. He was tad, but you know, I 19 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:45.760 think people from our generations, Steve, I think would would would say you 20 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:49.079 know him, you know again, the newbies would say somebody like you know, 21 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.680 you know Manny Machado were one of those guys. But you know they 22 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.599 didn't. They didn't see Brooks Robinson. He played third baseman like players play 23 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.159 today, but he did it fifty years ago, fifty sixteen. You know 24 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:06.480 quickly. Couldn't hit, couldn't hit a lick, but damn could he could 25 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.039 he play the corner, which which makes you what do you play? I 26 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:13.240 mean, because now you need both yet, well, the third baseman has 27 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.800 to be a power, right, but you know he was so good. 28 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:21.199 He was so good. He was their third baseman. And I remember he 29 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.879 had he had the tiniest bat. He'd go to bat and he looked like 30 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.039 he was saying, with one of those souvenir bats, you get a little 31 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:32.599 the little clubs, you know. But but man, could he play? 32 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:37.400 And uh, okay, I hated him because I was a Dodger fan. 33 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.000 You know, I'm still trying to forget who you liked. Well, the 34 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.240 it was one of those guys that I hated, but I had great respect 35 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.439 for it because it was so good. Right, you know, the the 36 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:53.120 Orioles swept the Dodgers in the World Series in the sixty five and then you 37 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.639 know, like like sixties, early seventies, they were in the World Series 38 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.560 like every year, right they weren't. They lost to the sixties nine Mets, 39 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.080 then they wanted in seventy. Then they lost to the Pirates in seventy 40 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.439 one. And I was a National League guy, so I was reading for 41 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:08.919 the Mets, I was reading for the for the Pirates. I don't remember 42 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.719 who they played in seventy might have been the Rents, I think, maybe, 43 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:19.280 Yeah, but all time great And he was eighty six past way today 44 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.080 I just set my good friend who you know, fallowing Baltimore because of him. 45 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.680 Yeah, the message, Yeah, all right, let's see, Uh 46 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:30.240 what else? I had a whole bunch of stuff. Okay, so all 47 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:37.199 these coaching rants that happened over the weekend. Uh coaching rants. Jake Dicker, 48 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.199 uh kind of he didn't take it back. He just said he meant 49 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:44.400 no disrespect to lead Corso about the stuff that he said about about Corso. 50 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.120 Did he say he got it wrong? Did he say he didn't admit? 51 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.879 Yeah, I listened most of the video. I listened, didn't listen to 52 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.639 all of it. He never said I was wrong. He just said I 53 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:55.960 meant no disrespects. Yeah, well I was. Was I talking to you? 54 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.479 I was talking to somebody, oh maybe TJ today. So we live 55 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:01.759 in a time. We live in a weird time. Someone says something has 56 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:05.080 to apologize or not apologize. The guy on the other side has to come 57 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:09.400 back and get at him, and it's a back and forth of of guess 58 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.800 what jay, I said what I said and I meant what I said it 59 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.160 in let's move on. Speaking of that, Ryan Day and Lou Holtz is 60 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:19.120 still going out. I saw that right. Holt's basically saying you're a good 61 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.600 team, You're not great, and I'm not gonna talk about you anymore. 62 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.199 You got Pence Dave Michigan coming up. I'm not talking. Did you take 63 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.439 I think the people got took offense people in our business saying well, he 64 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.480 went after an eighty six year old man. The eighty six year old man 65 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:33.560 talked a lot of crap. Wow, he did talk some crap, and 66 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:36.199 he didn't know. If the eighty six year old man doesn't want to take 67 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:41.240 the crap, then do exactly. I'm not I'm not pissed about that. 68 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.480 I just didn't think that what Lou Holtz said justified the rant that Ryan Day 69 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.959 did right after the game when you should have been talking about how great his 70 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.920 team played instead of talking about the eighty six year old guy. Well, 71 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:56.279 so the next forty five minutes you'll hear nothing from me because I don't want 72 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:01.120 to piss anybody off. I guess somewhere lying line you already I don't know 73 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.560 where, but you did. You already have. But it's this is you 74 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.279 know, it's ours, it's our job, and I'm saying media as a 75 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.759 blanket, go he said this. Go check what there the guy says. 76 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.480 And that's a bing pong volley back and forth about okay, and then at 77 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.319 the end of the day, it's kumbaya. But we didn't mean to mean 78 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.319 you said what you said. Who care said? Yeah? And it's like 79 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:25.600 the landing stuff. He did what he needed to do to get the guys 80 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.800 fired up. Why should I apologize? Exactly? If you don't want a 81 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.319 court storming, Jay, you know what you do, don't let it, 82 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.920 don't let it beat you exactly exactly. All right. Okay, you're getting 83 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:44.079 such mixed feelings about about Dion Sanders. Okay, so one of one of 84 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.120 his players, who was, you know, a highly touted guy that had 85 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.439 committed to Miami, decided to go to Colorado, has barely played, hasn't 86 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:55.959 been any good? Yeah? Uh, and went to and Deon Sanders asked 87 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:00.399 about it. Why is this guy not played? He says, he goes 88 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.480 what would it take for him to place a study and prepare beyond time for 89 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:08.519 meetings, show up to meetings, understand the scheme. I check film time 90 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.480 from each player so I can see who's preparing. So if I don't see, 91 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.079 if I don't see that, you would you would be a fool to 92 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.319 put somebody out there who's not prepared that goes for all our players. That's 93 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.160 like you said, I don't care how good you are. That's the damn 94 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:23.600 work play right. Well, it's just like Jay, you have a guy 95 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.199 working for you, a TP or where you're at, and then what's up 96 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.800 with him. Harry's pretty talented. Well, if he doesn't show up to 97 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.480 work, how can we put him to work? So again, you like 98 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:39.199 he knows right, of course, of course you know he's good at what 99 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:43.759 he does. Again, you understand more than anything, More than anything, 100 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.519 he understands winning. Sure, right, And there's no I like him. 101 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.160 But the one thing is, I'm not sure she talks a lot of crap. 102 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:55.600 But he kind of does and kind of doesn't. Everybody does. Everybody 103 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.759 does, depends where the cameras are. Well, here's the thing. He's 104 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.079 just more open about what you got to say. He doesn't give a crap, 105 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.360 sure anybody think? Sure? Sure? And to say that though he's 106 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:05.720 a little bit sensitive, do you remember the stuff in the World series. 107 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:12.240 Well, I mean if you're gonna if if he says something that you're gonna 108 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.920 rip him for, he doesn't care if you're ripping. You'll pay attention to 109 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:16.319 it. Oh sure, right, and then he'll come back at you. 110 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.000 But he doesn't get his feelings hurt. I don't think. Come on, 111 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.279 dude, you were'd you grow up on the East Side. I grew up 112 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.279 in a place where if you didn't have your barbs ready to retort, you 113 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.240 were gonna get showed up. I spend enough time on the South Side. 114 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:30.639 Didn't know that. You know, I grew up that way. If you 115 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.920 didn't have your comeback ready, you were Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely, 116 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:40.800 all right. Hey, our buddy whose dad has been on our show, 117 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:46.279 a Roy Lopez defensive lineman, got signed to the or elevated to the active 118 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:47.720 roster for the Cardinals this week. I didn't know that he was not with 119 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.480 Houston because remember we were the texts text he was with somebody. Yeah, 120 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.600 well they must have picked the Cardinals, must have picked him up. They 121 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:57.759 put him on the active rosper Good for him up there. So that's not 122 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.720 three three yeo. A guys who were in the you know, on active 123 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.279 rosters. Gary Bradwell, you know he carried the ball a whole bunch of 124 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.639 the in the Giants game last week. I was listening to the radio and 125 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.399 then who's the other one one more there's a running back for New England and 126 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.720 yeah, yeah, the guy, I would say Morris, but it's not 127 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:20.040 more. Yeah, that guy, that guy Taylor. Yeah, what's the 128 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.519 first one, Yeah, Tylor Taylor. Yeah, that guy. You're asking 129 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.639 me questions. I don't know J J J J. So Roy Roy Lopez 130 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:33.600 just three? What about since he joins three other former wocats, there must 131 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.960 be one more. I can't think Cruke Chink nok Is he the one that 132 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.759 he might because he's been there for a while. Okay, Okay, you 133 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.879 don't. Why don't we talked about it? I heard this falls to the 134 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:52.000 Jets. Why not did the Colin Kaepernick or a letter to just put me 135 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.080 under practice squad see if I can play and then if I can't cut me? 136 00:08:54.679 --> 00:09:03.120 Which why not? You know? Going going back to what uh you 137 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.360 know what's talking about with with Richard who called uh you know, I did 138 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.320 Washington maybe the best team in the country. Well they now have. From 139 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:15.159 a betting standpoint, the Heisman Trophy favorite Michael Pennocks has jumped over Caleb Williams, 140 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:20.039 which I think he's I think he's a better I think he's a better 141 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.159 pro prospect, and I think just as like I said, is a thrower. 142 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.080 He's a better thrower. But he's he's now on Draft Kings. He's 143 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:33.360 plus three sixty and Caleb Williams is now plus four. It's gonna all wash 144 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.240 out here in the next few weeks. Yeah, yeah, Well, all 145 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.159 those teams got to play each other, so you know, I mean Oregon 146 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.720 has to play Washington is pretty good too. He's pretty good too, and 147 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.440 he's moving up and no one's paying attention to Washington State. Yeah, yeah, 148 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.000 Cam, what's cam orton? Cam? He's doing really well and Cam 149 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:56.240 Rising hasn't even played over it and they're they're four now and he hasn't even 150 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.559 played. Hey, just everybody knows. We're gonna go a couple of minutes 151 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:03.360 longer the segment because we can get George Malulu in here and we'll come back 152 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:09.759 probably about four twenty four with with George when when we get him on. 153 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.840 So we're going a little longer on this segment. Speaking of quarterbacks, Uh 154 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:20.000 Trent and Bourgay is expected to start at at a s U. They've determined 155 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.440 that there's what's the other guy, uh, I can't think of it, 156 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:31.039 the freshman guy, the freshman no Drew pineh the guy from Notre Dame that 157 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:37.240 that that started uh for uh for ACU. I think last week he's quote 158 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.200 unquote out for the near future, according to Kenny Dilligan. So they're going 159 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.320 to Bourgay this weekend. So they've got Uh, they're at Cal, so 160 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.320 we'll see how that goes with them over the guy who started last week, 161 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.879 Uh is the only other healthy scholarship quarterback. I thought the brigadie must not 162 00:10:54.960 --> 00:11:00.440 have been that injury. That was his knee. Okay, but we're Shota 163 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.480 and Drew Pine are not available again for ACU. They're going to Cal. 164 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.159 It's you know, it's just it's gonna get tougher and tougher run them. 165 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.679 Oh yeah, every every every weekends. I'm gonna be crazy. Yeah. 166 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.679 Our friend rich Rod got his one hundred and seventy fifth career win. Wow 167 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:18.480 on Saturday. Who'd he beat? They beat Eastern Michigan twenty one to zip. 168 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.480 What's his record? Now? They are two and one. They only 169 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.159 played three games because they must have a buy right away because it beat you 170 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.679 tap probably the first game you tap, they're they're one two, they're three 171 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.519 and one, three and one. Next sense they beat you tap, beat 172 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.639 East Tennessee State, lost to Coastal Carolina and then beat East what's that Coastal 173 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.639 Carolina game? They gotta be thirty to sixteen. Yeah, he's they're pretty 174 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.440 good. They're pretty good. Good rich Rod? You know whatever, anybody 175 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.639 wants to say he could coach, he can, he can, he can 176 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.600 get the guys a score. Guts to play for him. I just remember 177 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.000 being upset with him that they didn't hit the over in the But you mean 178 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.799 this year? Yeah, yeah, this year. There's get him on the 179 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.480 text him right now. He told us they pays attention to Yeah, no, 180 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:11.120 the Rams coach doesn't. Anyways, they got Sam Houston this weekend, 181 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.360 which is the other team that went FBS this year's he's fifty nine years old. 182 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.240 Let's assume Heim does really well. I think you'll get another shot at 183 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:24.559 him. Yeah he could. I could see him moving up to yeah, 184 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.960 back for one last chance, you know, team over in the South or 185 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.919 something. Yeah, yeah, I could getting another shot at it. But 186 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:35.120 one hundred and seventy five wins for rich Rot, so that's a lot of 187 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:41.200 wins. Seventeen years Indoor Football League added a team, the San Antonio Gunslingers, 188 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.360 so they are now up to sixteen teams for the twenty twenty fourth season, 189 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:54.600 so that's an interesting interesting deal there. Continuing to grow and continued the 190 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.679 Premier Indoor League, the Arena Football League. The old Arena Football League apparently 191 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.360 is restarting this year after the two indoor well, there's like there's two other 192 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.600 ones. There's like four of them. Oh yeah, but of the of 193 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:09.559 the ones that exist, the Indoor Football League is there is a better one 194 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:15.960 is the best one because better teams, better franchises, better ones are even 195 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.360 more minor league than the indoor football You know, people players from those teams 196 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.679 concerned move up to the Indoor Football League. So we'll see what the arena 197 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.600 football does, you know, if they get a TV contract of all this 198 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.080 kind of stuff. All right, Big Game Boomer, who we're trying to 199 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:37.360 get on the show this week, has Washington on serious upset alert, uh 200 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:45.000 this week, along with Tennessee, Notre DAMEE Texas, Georgia, Clemson, 201 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:50.120 Texas, and MTCU Missouri and Minnesota al though I don't know who Minnesota could 202 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:52.799 be playing though would be an upset. They got beat by Northwestern last weekend, 203 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:58.320 so I don't think any win over Minnesota is an upset. But he's 204 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.000 got some bigs in Washington and Texas, some big names up there and Notre 205 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.639 Dame. He comes on to twenty. You know Notre Dame. Remember last 206 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.360 year they played Wow, stayed really tough, and then the next week when 207 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:15.279 lost to Marshall. So I think they've got Duke this week. Duke is 208 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:20.120 really good. Yeah, they are surprisingly really damn good. So, hey, 209 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:26.840 did you know that Juwan Howard had some sort of heart uh issue, 210 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:33.240 and he hasn't been coaching. Phil Martelly, the guy from Uh Joe Joe 211 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:39.679 is running there is running the show's biggest fans one of them, he's yeah, 212 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.240 yeah, he was. He was one of lot, was one. 213 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:48.159 He was one of the lout's no reverse he I'm saying, we're saying the 214 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.879 sarcacastically. Yeah, yeah, the biggest fans. He was really upset with 215 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.759 her. So yeah, philm Martell, he's been running the show. He's 216 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.759 he was his lead assistant. Yeah yeah. In the story that when Joan 217 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:07.440 got the job, uh he he asked John Calipari, you know who should 218 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.120 who should I get as an assistant? And Calipari recommended Phil Martelli didn't know 219 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.559 him, well, Jowan Howard didn't even know him. He wouldn't introduce himself. 220 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.120 Hired him as his main assistant because Party told him, get a guy 221 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.039 like that. Let me help you. Let me tell you something. I've 222 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.279 sent this to to Josh too. He needed to get that guy. Yeah, 223 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.120 and he did. Somebody like that exactly, Somebody like that who knows 224 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.840 the rope right right, who can help you be the right hand man. 225 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:41.000 Speaking of of coaching candidates, the Athletic, Bruce Fellman at the Athletic ran 226 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:48.240 out a list of of coaches to replace huh Mel Tucker at Michigan State. 227 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:54.960 He threw out due coach Mike Elko, Lancelipold at Kansas who also did a 228 00:15:54.000 --> 00:16:00.200 great job, Chris Kleman at Kansas State again coaching right the teams that haven't 229 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.360 been very good good now it's not official, No, it's still not official. 230 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.759 And PJ. Flack at Minnesota. Also throughout Willie Fritz, the head 231 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:14.399 coach at UH at Tulane, the Toledo head coach, Jason Candall coach, 232 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.919 who's anybody could do that here? How many coaches did he throw out through 233 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.399 out in our whole list? Bill O'Brien, who's the Patriots of Sport oh 234 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:26.159 Man, Sean Lewis, who's who's Uhn Sanders offensive coordinator? Just throw laundry 235 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:32.759 list of coaches out there. That's all just good luck go into that sad 236 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.440 man that's when I got good timing. That's the right time we got it. 237 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.679 Okay, we're gonna have George Malulu man expected. Yeah, should be 238 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.519 cool. So about six minutes. All right, we'll get yeah, well 239 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:47.279 we'll in the meantime, we'll get ready to take your calls after that. 240 00:16:47.320 --> 00:17:00.480 But George Malou coming right see you. 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He's Jackinsaws Stone if 322 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:55.440 on, we have George mellow lu the quarterback of the nineteen ninety two Big 323 00:22:55.559 --> 00:23:00.240 Upset over Washington. George, how are you doing the fire may nobody listening? 324 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.240 That's true, George, that's true, George. I hope you're in 325 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.640 a safe spot out in California. Thanks for joining us. We kind of 326 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.720 want to revisit thirty two, thirty three, thirty one years ago. Does 327 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:14.759 that make you feel old? What does that make you feel? No? 328 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.599 Not really. When I see my kids, kind kind of lived with them, 329 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:23.839 so I think I'm still young and your kids are fantastic athletes. I 330 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.839 appreciate that. So, George, we've been this, jakeln Stiles, We've 331 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:32.000 been talking about this game already. The last couple of days. We did 332 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.799 talk to the guy who covers the team now for the Star. He wasn't 333 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.559 even born yet, but he seemed to know a lot about the game. 334 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.119 But yeah, we talked to Heath Bray yesterday. Let me bring up something 335 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:47.359 that that that we talked about with he You know, you guys had you 336 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.799 were on a roll at that time, but at some point during the week 337 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.000 there had to be some sort of a belief among the players, among the 338 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.880 team, among the coaches, whatever, that you guys are gonna win this 339 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:02.559 game. When when did that happen for you? Yeah, I didn't hear 340 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.519 that. Come again, when did When did it happen for you that you 341 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.960 felt we're gonna beat these guys because they had killed you two years in a 342 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.359 row, but you guys were on a roll. When when did you feel 343 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.640 like we can beat these guys? Man, to tell you the truth, 344 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:23.000 I mean that year, that year, we we came close to beating Miami 345 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.400 in Miami, so we had it in us. It was just a matter 346 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:33.359 of you know, who was gonna who's gonna show up? And sure enough 347 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.039 we showed up and uh, you know, we made history and beating the 348 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:38.880 number one team in the country. We should have beaten two number one teams 349 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:44.319 in the country that year. So you know, I knew I believe that 350 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.720 we were gonna be able to do something special, and we sure did. 351 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.279 How was it from your mind being the quarterback? Pressure? No pressure? 352 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:56.480 What? No pressure? Because I mean the pressure was on them they had 353 00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.839 to win. We didn't. So I mean, just going into the game 354 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.880 like we usually did was just man. As long as I knew I had 355 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.440 the defense behind us. I mean, shoot with Rob and all those other 356 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.160 guys there, I mean, I knew we were gonna be in good position 357 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.680 because they're gonna definitely give us the ball when we needed it. So and 358 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.960 as you saw, we were able to kind of control the ball and you 359 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.920 know, come up with the big w Well, was there any I don't 360 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.680 know what the right word is for this, because not only did you know 361 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.640 Washington beat you guys really bad the two years before, but you took a 362 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:33.279 physical beating in those in those two games. Any angst on your part? 363 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.519 Uh? You know, how did you personally approach that game in light of 364 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.880 what had happened the last two years against them? Well, I had it 365 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.759 just definitely just kind of put it to the side and not even think about 366 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.079 those two two years because those two years were I mean, God, at 367 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.279 least you have that man just kind of looking at you, staring in you 368 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.640 in the eye and saying, I'm coming and down keeping side. I'm saying 369 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.359 to myself, Yeah, I know. Well, at the same time, 370 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.319 you just to go out there and just you know, just overcome you know, 371 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:08.480 a lot of adversity that comes about and what happened was we came around 372 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.319 with a lot of good plays, keeping the fall positive and not giving the 373 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:17.559 fall away. You know, we stayed together as a team and we wont 374 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.400 as a team. We don't see this too often, George, here in 375 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.119 Tucson where it's sold out, it's crazy. The guys are staying in the 376 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:27.680 in their seats. How was it that day, because I know it was. 377 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:34.839 It was packed. Man, that was probably the most packed stating that 378 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.599 i've you know, just in the in the years that I was there playing. 379 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.920 It was. It was amazing. And for them the rush of the 380 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.599 field afterwards, and to be on the field with some of my siblings and 381 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.960 my cousins and just Is celebrating the whole. Uh, the win itself was 382 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:53.279 was amazing. So that's something I definitely cherished. And then I just hope 383 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.319 that we'll have a couple more this year that you can go ahead and celebrate 384 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.920 the same way. Well see, you know, Steve and I have talked 385 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.240 a number of times about, you know, basketball games, when you walk 386 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.160 into McHale Center and there's a buzz, right, there's a feeling, you 387 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.599 know, when Duke is there or when Ucla is there, a couple of 388 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.680 times, you know, maybe North Carolina went. You know that you walk 389 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.599 into the arena and it just feels different. Did it feel like that, 390 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.000 you know, on that because it's such a bigger place, right more people 391 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.960 went? Was there? Did you sense that kind of buzz in the stadium 392 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.559 when you guys took the field, there was always a buzz, especially with 393 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.480 you know, Jeremiah Fire. I mean a lot of the big wins that 394 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.799 we came about, whether whether it was on the road or whether it was 395 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.640 there, I mean, those are special. Those are a special sense of 396 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.759 camaraderie amongst the team. I think we we were a family, and we 397 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:52.200 played like a family. And regardless of you know, who is down defense 398 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.839 or offense, you know, you always got picked up Ruski coming out the 399 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.440 field and say hey, come on, let's go. Just that a little 400 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:02.599 pickup will definitely kind of carry you up and over. But nowadays I'm just 401 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.480 kind of just seeing what they did at Stafford. You know, even though 402 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:07.759 it was a one point win, Man, give me the win. I'll 403 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.960 take the win any day, and I was. I was really happy to 404 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.240 see and if you uh know, if your feets are going out there and 405 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.039 getting the call, making the making it happen and doing doing what needed to 406 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.480 be done to get the dove. Yeah, I know he's got a lot 407 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.000 of points. Let me ask you, George, because told me was so 408 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.279 subdued. He was kind of like, you know, you nothing really rattled 409 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.680 him. You didn't really show emotions. How was he after that game? 410 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:40.960 Would you? Guys? Course, Tommy was always I mean, he didn't 411 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.799 know what You didn't know whether or not to talk to him at times. 412 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.440 You didn't know what to you know, what to say at times because he 413 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.920 was just he was very even killed. But at the same time, when 414 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.000 he needed something that he said he will say it right then and there and 415 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.359 and everything will help to hold and you know exactly what needs to be done 416 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:02.880 at that particular time. But the confidence that he had in us, I 417 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.000 believe, I mean, just kind of coming off the field and just kind 418 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.319 of getting a word or two from him kind of made you feel as if, 419 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.039 you know, hey, I got coach to coach Stone got me back 420 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.519 so too that I don't need any other anybody else to go and let me 421 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.359 just say anything else to me, So I know, I got I got 422 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.480 to me man. Uh, kind of pushing me from the backside. You 423 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.599 know, I think I'm thinking back to how many times I've seen the tape 424 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:27.160 of this game or the video of the game. You know that touched on 425 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:32.359 you scored on the quarterback sneak and you ran off the field and if I 426 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.200 recall, you went and gave him a huge hug. You know, do 427 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.200 you recall saying anything to him at that point, because that was when you, 428 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.119 guys clinch the game, game was over when you scored that touchdown. 429 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.240 What you know, what was to be said to him at that time? 430 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.759 I don't see me. I don't think we said anything. Just just knowing 431 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.880 that we went up on that sport was more than enough to you know, 432 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.079 I need the access spoke louder than words. So just kind of holding them 433 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.640 and knowing that was my senior year and kind of bringing in that presence and 434 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:06.240 that ambiance too to Tucson was I think some special that I think we captured 435 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.920 in that moment. So did you you were senior then? I think Desert 436 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.960 Swarm was kind of starting keeps perriculating. Did you see that that was happening 437 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.960 with the defense? I knew it. I mean I've seen them every day 438 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:23.759 and just seeing how some other programs had some some issues and trying to you 439 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.000 know, move the ball. I mean I saw that defense every day, 440 00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:33.160 so I knew that they had problems, especially you know, whatever whatever scheme 441 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.480 they brought up, you know, I know coach Ellison and coach Akina, 442 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:41.279 and I mean they and they designed a defense that you know, they still 443 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.920 speak up today. Yeah, So, how how often do you think of 444 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.559 that game? You know, I mean, you had a great athletic career 445 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.079 high school, college, How often does that game come up? You know 446 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.240 out of nowhere, you know, in your mind and your memory that kind 447 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.319 of stuff. You know, when when some of the guys, you know, 448 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.359 we talked when we come back to Tucson or we're on the phone, 449 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.039 and it just kind of discussed some of the things that you know there we 450 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:10.640 see today. Just so that these guys can kind of see and feel that 451 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.079 that that that that joy and the teamwork it took in order for us for 452 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.559 us to get to that point. I see it happening, and I'm just 453 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.759 I'm just I'm just uh enthused to see when that day comes when you know, 454 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.240 they do take down a top ten team and everybody celebrates the same way. 455 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.880 Yeah, not to go poo poo on you. But so you win 456 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.319 that game, then you play USC and then as U and then Baylor. 457 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.319 What was it so high that you couldn't recover or what happened after that? 458 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.559 You know what I think what it was, It is just that we uh, 459 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.119 you know, certain plays that needs to be made and at those particular 460 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.160 times that needed it needs to be done. It wasn't done each one of 461 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.920 those games. There was there was a two, two or three plays that 462 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:08.599 was done and performed differently I think would have been a different a different outcome. 463 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.319 But you know, we were we were involve you know, all three 464 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.279 of those games. It's just that, you know, just like you said, 465 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.680 two or three, two or three plays, I kind of bounced in 466 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.279 the other direction. Yeah, well real quick, because we're having fun in 467 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.039 the last few days because of the Hunter kid at Colorado playing playing both ways 468 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.160 or or you know, up until you got hurt, you played you played, 469 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.079 you know, with two different hands. Who in your time would have 470 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:43.559 been able to play both ways both ways as far as throwing no defense and 471 00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:51.359 defense, Chuck Levy was probably the only one that I could think of on 472 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.480 our team. It's kind of looking around on the league, you really didn't 473 00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:00.039 or around the conferences. I really nobody just really stick shout that could really 474 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.880 do what the hundred kid is doing. I mean, that's that's unheard of. 475 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.279 I mean, to play on that level and to play both of them 476 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:12.279 both ways. I think that it was the first or second game. I 477 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.319 mean, I forgot how many snaps, but he had a hundred and on 478 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.880 forty or fifty snaps. I mean, that's that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, 479 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.319 yeah, that's that's nuts for him to maintain that level of competition and 480 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.400 just going out there to compete. And I kick my hat because uh as 481 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.359 a special kid. Well, and when you think about you know, the 482 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.480 physicality of the game today versus you know, just the way that you know 483 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:43.079 the athletes are, the speed, the hitting to be able to do that, 484 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:47.160 that's got to be quick, the faster, the stronger. It's just 485 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.160 it's just, uh, it's just a whole different I mean, either the 486 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.599 training just kind of seeing how my my my sons and I think go through 487 00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.599 their different training. It's it's night and day from what we we're doing back 488 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.359 back in the day. Well, we'll talk about that a little bit and 489 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.320 what you're seeing differently and how kids your high school age and so on are 490 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.239 getting ready, you know, to go to the next level. It almost 491 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.079 feels like high school kids are what college kids used to be. Right, 492 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.719 So, say, for us, you look at these seven on sevens, 493 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.880 these tournaments, these easy events. I mean, if you look at the 494 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.599 datises and the nikes, they've really kind of transformed putting their brand on kids 495 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:34.679 along with the actual event itself. So you look like you have an MTV 496 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.679 kind of a rock and Jock DJ, and they're just kind of really having 497 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:45.239 the the announcer on the sideline, just really kind of bringing that seven on 498 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:51.400 seven appeal to the masses, you know, online and through through videos. 499 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:55.000 So and these kids are getting our scholarship offers on seven on seven games. 500 00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:00.159 It's it's a whole different, whole different ball game. Yeah, no, 501 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.320 no question. Did you see the year before in ninety one, right, 502 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.360 you guys didn't have a great year but then saw a turn a huge turn 503 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:15.519 around the next year. What happened in that year, Well, no disrespect 504 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.199 to the staff, but you know, I know there was some changes that 505 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.679 the staff had to make, and they brought coach Acquina to the officsive side, 506 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:28.199 and when Coachequina came to the officieve side. I mean you could tell, 507 00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.760 even with him being back in Tucson the type of enthusiasm and energy that 508 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.840 that coach Acquina brings to either side of the ball, and just having him 509 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.119 on on the officsive side, my officive side of the my senior year was 510 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.199 it was it was a great plus. But at the same time it was 511 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.800 it was a it was a nice little fresh twist to what we were doing, 512 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.880 you know, between my sophomore junior compared to my senior year. Well, 513 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.880 he's back on the field over here, so what do you think, 514 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.480 Well, can they take Washington on Saturday? I believe so. I will 515 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.400 always say I believe so. But at the same time, you know, 516 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.920 people didn't uh anything we were gonna do her back then. So I'm gonna 517 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.599 go ahead and go with the cast and just say, hey, we'll probably 518 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.480 beat on by ten. Yeah you go, I know, we don't have 519 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.599 a couple of minutes stuff that I just wanted to touch base with you and 520 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.320 your family, Uh and your girls who have done well, are they still 521 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.960 playing? Just give me a rundown? So all they gotter Chloe. She 522 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.199 plays for the Okay Sparks. She's playing professional softball right now. She graduated 523 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:36.679 from Mississippi State A number two, which is uh Tessa. Tessa is the 524 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:43.440 third baseman for UCLA and she has two more years this year and next year. 525 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.679 And then my boy Jordan, he's the senior at Lambs Pauly. He's 526 00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.280 already committed to Fristal State. Wow, he's a wide receiver TB. And 527 00:36:52.400 --> 00:37:00.400 then my youngest who who mistaking uh uh my, she's taking the quarterback spot 528 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.039 and he do it quite well. We just came back from Maryland and played 529 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.199 the top East Coast team last weekend and he came up with the W And 530 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.519 he's definitely going to be better than me. Your wife must have had some 531 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.960 very good talent. She does. I'm telling you, she's a winner. 532 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.920 I think I won out when I picked her. Nice. Nice choice. 533 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.360 Nice choice, George, Hey man, I'd love to hear from you. 534 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:30.079 Thanks a bunch for joining us today. Nice Thanks, take care of her 535 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.679 now, thank you you can get back to work. Thanks George. He's 536 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.159 one of the good guys. He is. He was such a good guy 537 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:37.679 when he was here. I loved him, you know. I still again, 538 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.599 I still remember the time he blew out his knee. He played a 539 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.079 couple of plays after he blew out his knee and asked him, how did 540 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.519 you do that? Because I wanted to win that I wanted to win, 541 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.519 and his claim to famous he could throw with both hands, with both hands. 542 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.320 He never let him do it right in the game. I think, 543 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:57.159 I think you do a couple but like on a scramble, right, But 544 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.400 he never, you know, he never purposely, you know, took a 545 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.760 snap and went back it through with the other hand. Right, Okay, 546 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.239 cool, all right, that was fun. We'll be back. We'll take 547 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.480 your calls at five to zero, four s forty. We'll wrap it up. 548 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:12.079 Give us a bus. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you 549 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.559 know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now. Take a look back 550 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.400 at the Ludolson era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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They had their I on the Ball on two Sons sports 620 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:23.039 station Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. They welcome back to I in the Ball here 621 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.960 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jake. Got about twelve 622 00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.480 minutes left and if not, actually about nine nine minutes. We went along. 623 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.119 Oh no, no, because you were the key came on like, 624 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.639 yeah, that's cool, that's cool. Oh yeah, we went along in 625 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.960 the first se Yeah, it's good, it's good. It was good, 626 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.719 good, good time with him. Yeah. No, I love you know, 627 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:44.400 I love having those guys on because one we know them a little bit, 628 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:45.400 even though it's been a long time, but we covered them, and 629 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.559 so we knew them when they were when they were just growing up. And 630 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.960 you know, there's a lot of history and you know, that was a 631 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.880 time in Arizona football where things were good, right, and you're good and 632 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.760 just starting. Yeah, and it's just starting that you know, that kind 633 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.559 of that early night in the time. You know, got the ball row 634 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.320 and they had the ninety three season, but they went to the festival. 635 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:08.280 They had the ninety eight season where you talked about you talked about who covered 636 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:13.159 the team for the Star is Anthony? Uh there was another paper. I 637 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.639 know you don't recognize that, but I don't know if it was Dave or 638 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:21.199 it wasn't John. It had to be protrusted, it had to be for 639 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.960 a while. Yeah, maybe I can find him. Awake up, Parky 640 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:28.199 on the side. Yeah, you were doing two years into basketball, so 641 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.519 yeah, no, maybe we talked about that because those were those were up 642 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.280 and down times, right they want they went six and two and then they 643 00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.159 went six and two. They beat Washington and then they lost their next lost 644 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.920 the next three games. Yeah, I remember they were all terrible losses. 645 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.000 They just close. Get a seven six loss, I get breaks the long 646 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:51.119 run in the game where you know, like I remember being really upset at 647 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.679 that loss because of because because they were been done. I mean that that 648 00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:00.280 Washington Glow last lasted a couple of weeks. You had to be he had 649 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.599 to be really damn good. And then they go loose to as bad as 650 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.800 was close with the with one win score. Yeah, and then they went 651 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.079 to the ASU and then they lost in the in the in the sun and 652 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.639 we went a whole group of us went to the to the USC game, 653 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.119 did you yeah, you know, after the watching game we got I mean 654 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.440 I think we had thirty people went, you know, and as a group 655 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.440 and went to the USC game. And then they lost that game. And 656 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:29.280 then we come back and then the a SU game was here and they lose 657 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.039 that game by that was a crap. And then they went to the Sun 658 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.239 Ball and I'm not even gonna go. My brother ended up going at the 659 00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:39.880 last minute. I think it might have cost him his marriage. So not 660 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.440 always not always lost, and he went to that game and then they lose 661 00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.559 that game. Yeah, and then they didn't have a good next year. 662 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.840 They didn't have a good next year, and then they started breaking the next 663 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.199 check out check out the next year, was the ninety three was the score? 664 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.480 Oh yeah, that's right, you're right. Yeah. The next year 665 00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.800 was the ninth, the ninth three year that they went to the Fiest Bowl 666 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.519 and you know, yeah, you know lost what was there? Seven and 667 00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.199 what was it? They went? They went ten and two? They lost 668 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.039 too. They started they won what seven? They were seven and Ozero eight 669 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:21.000 seven and Ozer got their asses kicked by UCLA. Uh beat or beat the 670 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.519 hell out of Oregon and then lost lost to create that crazy game where they 671 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:28.719 were twenty to nothing at the half. The beat Asu. If they beat 672 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.119 Caw, they're in the Rose Bowl. Yeah, and then they beat the 673 00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.239 Miami. Yeah. And then they beat Miami and the you're right, you're 674 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.639 right. I was thinking about the year before, but that was a start 675 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:37.239 at that period of time. Then, you know, in ninety eight they 676 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.519 had that great year. They go twelve and one. You know, you 677 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:44.000 go twelve and one and one of the when of the rare times that anybody 678 00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.119 ran the you know, ran the table in the pack in the pack ten 679 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:51.239 and UCLA did it that year. Hurricane then went and crapped the bed at 680 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.599 in Miami in a game the cost Arizona Rose Bowl so there's that. So 681 00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.000 anyway, do you believe in destiny? I've got you just before. I 682 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:06.159 don't think you do. I do. I believe in what goes around comes 683 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:09.639 around. Okay, but do you believe in because what if it's a sense 684 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:15.119 that erion just not destined to go to the Rose Bowl given these weird circumstances. 685 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:22.840 No, no, I just I believe in curses. They're cursed. 686 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.119 I firmly believed that. Again. I mean, I sit here and think 687 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.280 of I think of losses that Arizona had. Their were inexplicable. I couldn't 688 00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:36.400 explain them for anything. That man so much. You know, I told 689 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:39.280 you that lot that lost to cal in ninety three, a lot that lost 690 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:45.559 to Oregon in ninety four when a terrible past interference call that called it Oregon. 691 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.400 You know that game. I can't believe you. I can't know. 692 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.000 I can't believe you because you remember the stuff, and then you don't remember 693 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:59.719 the post the podcast. I'm the same way. But but you know, 694 00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:04.480 I think about you know, the the UCLA Miami game where they that's the 695 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.599 fumble where the Kay McNown was on his knees and the ball rolls out and 696 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.360 they called it a fumble and it shouldn't have been a fumble, and that 697 00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.480 cost him the game. The other way around two a time or two the 698 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:22.519 hill Mary, the Arizona never gets there. Okay, okay, they got 699 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.960 the Hill Mary. But but in the end, what did it mean? 700 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.159 Well? True, true, but you know it wasn't got the the onside 701 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.599 kick. Everything that everything that happened in that game was weird. That that 702 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.800 was a weird one. And again and I remember walking out of the saying, 703 00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:37.519 that's the game that Arizona never wins. I don't know, it was 704 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.679 a home It was weird. It was they never win that game because they 705 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.519 never can never get all those that happen. Sure that happened, and that 706 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.719 scour and missus another one of those weird ones. Right, Uh, let 707 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.280 me tell you the a shoe I think the kid mentioned this, the blocked 708 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.440 extra points extra Yeah again, but that was that was that that was just 709 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.039 an ace lost. I'm talking about games that meant something like where the Rose 710 00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.199 Bowl was on the line. You know the two times that happened in ninety 711 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.519 eight, No that that happened in ninety eight, that happened in eighty six. 712 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.440 You know they've reading the hell out of UCLA up there and Gaston Green 713 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.480 goes off in the second half and they lose that game, and that would 714 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.599 have put him in the Rose Bowl. Uh, you know all kinds of 715 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:24.079 things they like that that just just never wins that game. That means more 716 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.199 than any no question, that you guys are are are cursed. And let 717 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.079 me say this, after reading they fought like wildcats and going up to seventy 718 00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.360 two, I think it wasn't. And I'm reading it with no with no 719 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.920 reason not to read or whatever. I'm thinking, there is something that happened 720 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.400 that you need to kill a goat or something. I don't know what. 721 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.440 We talked about the seventy five SU game with Bruce Hill, right, you 722 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:52.239 know, John Jefferson makes this catch. Half the people thought it was a 723 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.960 catch, half the people thought it wasn't, and it went. It went 724 00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:59.800 against Arizona, and the next thing, you know, you know, As 725 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.840 was in the fest Of Bowl instead of Arizona playing Nebraska in the fift one 726 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.719 instead of Arizona, And who knows how that would have flipped at that time 727 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.320 because those were the two best teams maybe that the Whack had ever seen, 728 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.880 and they were playing each other, and they played to the to the death, 729 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:15.519 and the assue wins a game on a catch. It to this day 730 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.320 is disputed by a lot of people, and it went against it Arizona upon 731 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.199 further review. Uh yeah, no, you guys are cursed. There's no 732 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.880 question. The thing about it is hoard is it? Or did it start? 733 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.280 After reading that book? I read it. I said, you guys 734 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.320 are cursed. I just don't know where it begins. Yeah, around the 735 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.320 time I was born. You know what? No, no, no, 736 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:44.599 that explains it. That totally explays it. What what you what? What? 737 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.199 What time? What time of the year? It's like now is born 738 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.719 in August to fifty nine? Oh, the s the fall of practice of 739 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.800 football practice was starting the nine that's would it probably not be funny to go 740 00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:59.920 back and review you have the book, I'll go back to it last. 741 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:08.280 That's funny because that and it's sixty four years of a lot of people might 742 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:14.039 say that's all my fault. It's funny because really, I mean thinking, 743 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.039 you know so many of those games, right, I mean, okay, 744 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.119 when they when they beat Washington, if they if they win their last two 745 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.360 games, I think they go to the Rose Bowl. That year. So 746 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:22.679 Jay, if someone said to you, Jay, will pay you not to 747 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:30.079 attend games, not to attend games, just because only if they could guarantee 748 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.199 me that there was a Rose Bowl at the end of it and I could 749 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.599 go to that game, I would not go. I would give it up. 750 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.400 I'd say that's what it takes, and it gets them in the Rose 751 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.360 Bowl, and then I still get to go to the Rose Bowl. Then 752 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:45.119 I'll stop coming. Go ahead and boosters start raising them. This may cost 753 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:51.199 more than the stadium itself. Steve, It's just you know what, it's 754 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.199 bizarre. The life has been a lifetime of that. Again. You know, 755 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:59.280 I remember I was. I was nineteen years old in Arizona's first year 756 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:02.760 in the Inn, and I'm still sitting here waiting for that damn Rose Ball. 757 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.400 Well it's not gonna come. Well your dad, your dad waited a 758 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.639 lifetime. I mean, if they be Washington now, you know, the 759 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.880 possibility is still there, but I just don't see it happen. No, 760 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.800 No, the Rose is the playoff game. There's too many there's too many 761 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:21.760 grenades or too many landmines in this season forfame. So they're not going to 762 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.599 that. They've already lost some mission stake, even if they're four. No, 763 00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.760 they're not going to that. We'll see, we'll see what happens. 764 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.239 We got the less than a minute. Now. As we get closer and 765 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.960 closer to the game on Saturday night, should be a packed house. I 766 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.039 think it should be fine. I hope it's a packed house. Yea, 767 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.119 And I looked again. You know, be there, you know, Averyzone 768 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:44.000 to put out a graphic today, Be there at six forty five. Get 769 00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:49.119 in the stadium, and and and and get the place buzzing before the game 770 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.760 starts. That's the only way, you know, you know. Heath Bray 771 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.440 talked about how meaningful that is. I mean, take it from the word 772 00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.599 you know of a guy who would play there. It adders and and our 773 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.679 fans are terrible about this. We are you just are just I shouldn't say 774 00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.639 we because I'm there. I'm in the stadium a half an hour before kickoff, 775 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.599 which is why I know that the band doesn't have an entrance, which 776 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:15.000 fisses me off. We'll get away the phone, run okay, Hey, 777 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.840 we'll be back tomorrow with more stuff getting ready for that Washington game. Come back tomorrow