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Yeah, it was the night tap
on seven hundredl W. You're joining us

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once again? He is boaming and
his Furman mouth. I'm sure ready chopping

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at the bitch to talk to Gary
Jeff because he just loves me that much.

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My friend and a sports officionado was
Gary Burbank used to say, Andy

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Furman, join us again. Hello, Andy, Well, you know what.

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I love talking to you. But
I do believe I've thought about this.

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You either bring out the best of
me or the worst. I don't

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know what it is, but you
certainly get the juices flowing. And I

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think that's good because I don't talk
to many people the way I talk to

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you. I feel free and easy
with you. What juices are you talking

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about? First, I guess the
juices that are in my brain. I

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don't know what it is, but
if they come out, you get me

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boiling. Okay, it just loves
just sounds weird when you say gets the

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juices flowing. It just it's why
does it sound weird? I don't know

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it's a weird thing. No,
I didn't say second now you went there?

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No, But yeah, okay,
So we were going to talk about

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the the awful incident. Wait,
a minute. Wait, yeah, okay,

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let's do this. I mean,
I got a couple of things.

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Let's let's talk about it was a
terrible thing. But you know what,

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I don't want to come across as
the old guy, get off my lawn

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tide, that kind of guy.
Now, if I was in my twenties

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and I said what I'm going to
say now, people will say, yeah,

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he's right, he's he's what he's
talking about. He said, he's

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got a lot of foresight for his
age. Now, if I talk about

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it now, people say, ah, let does he know he's over the

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hill, he's an old timer,
he's just nasty's negative. No, I'm

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not. You know, it's a
safety concern, and I'm talking about storming

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the basketball court and the people are
you see fans who were at the game

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the other evening when they BETCU and
they stormed the court the fans did,

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they're probably rolling their eyes right now. Oh, farman, he's trying to

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stir the pot controversy. No,
I'm not. You know, you're involved

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in the business. Yeah, what
are your friends and your school, your

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hometown, your birthplace was almost hurt
seriously talking about Caitlin Clark, Yes,

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who plays for the University of Iowa, the Iowa Hawkeyes. I still like

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to call them the Lady Hawkeyes,
just because I think they're ladies. But

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anyway, cal Caitlin Clark is the
most phenomenal scorer and will before this season's

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over, barring injury, uh graduate
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college basketball. There's no question.
She's amazing to me be the first woman

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to play in the NBA. How's
that you heard it here? Well,

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what are they going to do in
the locker room? God knows? Anyway,

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Anyway, here's the thing. At
Ohio State was hosting the University of

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Iowa. They're in Columbus, and
some how miraculously were able to beat the

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Hawkeyes. I don't know what happened
that they paid the reps or whatever went

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down there, but then the students
felt like they had to storm the court

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and they ran over Caitlin Clark as
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Hawkeye myself, I was born there. My dad's an alum of the University

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of Iowa in Iowa City. I
take great umbrage at these Buckeye people,

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whoever they are. At the Buckeye
University. I take umbrage with them rolling

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over my girl, Caitlyn Clark,
your thoughts and you were talking about you

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see students storming the court after the
victory against TCU. Well, thankfully no

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one got injured, but very well
could have. And I don't think that

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that's a celebration when you're rolling over
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Andy your thoughts, Well, you
see f there was a storm in the

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court when you see F one the
other day in Tulane had a storm in

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the court as well, And I
tell you what, it's contagious. I

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don't I don't get it. Okay, maybe someone someday will explain to me

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what's the big through, what's the
big whoop of running down the stairs,

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getting out of your seat and standing
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that, and maybe hopefully not getting
trampled and crushed, which could possibly happen.

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Now, Caitlin Clark is a great
player. Thank goodness you didn't get

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hurt. I heard the coach of
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the news conference. She said she
was very disturbed and very upset with what

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happened, and thank goodness, Caitlin
wasn't hurt. She said it was disgusting

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and I loved everything she said.
I don't understand why more people are not

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calling out college basketball, the NCAA
in particular, and college conference is now.

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I believe finally's going to be levied
on Ohio State under the Ohio State

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University for what happened on Sunday with
Caitlin Clark. Maybe it's a ten thousand

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dollars five for storm in the court
you see. I don't know. Maybe

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they get one too, I don't
know, different conference. It has to

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stop. Remember years ago after football
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the gold post down. Then they
started greasing. They started greasing the cold

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posts so people could slip on them
and I couldn't grasp them and couldn't pull

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them down. You know, I
don't understand this whole situation. Is it

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alcohol that causes that? I don't
know. Is it the point of look

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at me? I want to be
on TV on the go and television promotes

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it. You know, I watched
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games, and they're showing people,
you know, in sub freezing weather,

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standing out there in the game with
no shirt on. About Jason Kelsey in

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Buffalo in the suit. I know, I that was kind of funny.

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But you know, for Joe Blow, I mean Jason Kelsey, that would

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be like, you know if if
Jimmy Kimmel did it, but the celebrity

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did it. You know what I'm
saying. That's okay, he gets the

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pass because it's not smart to do. But you know he's going to be

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photographed because of who he is.
But if Joe Schmuck next door does it

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and he's on TV, why is
he on TV? Maybe? I know

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a thing. I watched the Bengals
on TV. Why why would you go

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to a game trust as a clown
or a trust is as a serve?

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I see these one guys these where
they got the TV commercial? I think,

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what it's coy? Where's a uniform? He's always on TV? Is

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that why you do it? Because
you want to be on TV? Tell

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me explain this to me. That's
all I want to know when I do

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it. No, are you driving
your car with that uniform on going to

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a Bengal game? You look a
fool? You really do. I don't

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get it. We're in gorilla suits
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And Andy it's all about social media. It's all about clicks, it's all

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about going viral. Man, it's
all about me, me, me,

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me me, That's what it's about. It's about people seeking attention because they

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obviously don't get enough in their own
personal lives from the people that they should

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get the attention from, you know, their mother, their father, their

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wife, their husband, you know
there, you know it's it's it's all

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about that. It's all about this
narcissistic culture that has been bred by the

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selfie clicks and by the viral videos
and TikTok and all the rest. It

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is part of a social contagion actually
that is spreading and it is wreaking havoc

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on Americans' lives ultimately, and it's
ruining people's lives. Andy, it really

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is. You know what, It's
funny because if all the topics that we

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spoke on together over the years,
this is one thing that I think we

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have a common bond, We have
a mutual agreement, We really do.

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I mean, I think it's silly, but more than that, a lot

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of the things are silly. I
just turned my back on This is not

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only silly, it's dangerous. And
when you go from the silly stage to

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the dangerous stage. Something's got to
be done about it, and no one

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says anything. No one says a
thing. For example, the other day,

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the Chicago Bulls had their Ring of
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inducted the late Jerry Krause, the
general manager who basically formulated the team.

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He traded for Scottie Pippen, He
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guy involved with six championships. Jerry
Crouse who passed away his wife. His

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wife was sitting in mid court for
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She cried. If you go on
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Herriyzon you cried. It was disgusting, Okay, And some people have spoken

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out. Charles Barkley was great.
Charles Barkley spoke about it, says it's

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a disgrace for the Chicago bull organization, for the fans of Chicago, for

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everybody. It was just, it
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the widow of Jerry Krause. But
here's my point, where the hell is

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the commissioner? Where was Adam Silver? This guy's it's unbelievable if there's no

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money involved, if they can't.
You just said it. If there's no

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money involved, then then Adam Silver
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this is a good place to conclude
this. We can get into it maybe

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perhaps at a later date. But
I really appreciate your time. And as

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always, you cannot spell Furman without
f You remember that, folks talking with

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our friend the furball, Andy Furman. How you doing, my by Andre,

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I'm doing wonderful. Every time I
talk to you. It's a great

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you know why. It's kind of
like going on the couch, which I've

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never done. I've never gone to
a psychiatrist to shrink or anything for advice,

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but you know, we're talking to
you. It's like a Catharsis.

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Really you said on the couch.
I didn't know what you meant. I

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know. There you go again.
I know it's not my foot in my

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mouth. Okay, I got something
to say. Yeah, I've always I've

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always appreciated Tony Dungee. I always
liked the way he coached. I like

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the way his deportment was, the
way he carried himself. He seemed to

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be a gentleman. He was never
a madman. But the this week he

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says something really stupid. He was
talking about the Taylor Swift. I guess

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the appearances of Taylor Swift at Kansas
City Chiefs games and following basically Travis Kelcey

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all season long. And he says
on Courtingy, Now, this was in

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USA today. That's the thing that's
just enchanting people with sports. Now,

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this is what Tony Jump Dungee said
about her. There's so much on the

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outside coming in entertainment value and different
things taking away for it really happens on

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the field. Oh really, you
know this is nothing new. This is

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nothing new, Tony Dungee. Maybe
you're living in a cave. But if

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you watch football games over the years, Jerry Jones gets no shortage of airtime

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even when people aren't trying to decide. For his reactions on the team's latest

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playoff meltdown, He's always on TV. Jack Nicholson was essential figure in the

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Lakers Showtime era, as Magic and
Kareem they were. He was right there

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for courtside. You always are,
Jack Nicholson. So I don't understand why

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all of a sudden, Tony Dungee
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he's done well. I for herself
and Travis Kelsey. She's done great for

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the NFL and the Jersey sales.
Travis Kelsey's number one of Jersey sales.

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Well, here's here's the thing about
Jerry Jones. You use that analogy,

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and that was maybe a little bit
off. He's an owner and millions of

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people don't want to see Jerry Jones. Millions of people don't care about Jerry

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Jones. Now, Jack Nicholson,
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but you have to understand how big
this supernova called Taylor Swift is.

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Andy, You've got to understand that
it is as I think it's great.

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It's a total distraction. And I
think, and I think Taylor's Taylor Swift.

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The reason she is there every time
is maybe not because she's totally in

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love with Travis Kelcey. Maybe it's
because she's pursued by her Rabbit fans and

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she gets a chance to be the
Rabbit fan for once, and I think

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she's enjoying that. From a psychological
standpoint, she's having fun, you know,

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being with Tavis Kelsey or not,
but she's having fun. So here's

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my couple of questions I throw out
you and maybe you a tremendous fast audience

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that goes to thirty eight states.
Why is Taylor Swift going against to support

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her boyfriend touch such a nerd with
you and everybody else? And why are

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you angry at her? Not you, Gary Jeff, but people are angry

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at her. Well, it's the
NFL and the broadcasters will make it spectacle

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of the presence of Taylor Swift.
And why are you bothered by someone else's

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watching women's sports? I don't get
it. So many of people, so

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many people out there actively seek out
way so that the world know you're definitely

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not paying attention. Why does a
female athlete's accomplishment make you defensive? I

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don't get it. I mean,
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really I watched the Ohio State IOWA
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I mean they had a Maryland game
on the Maryland basketball game. I've got

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who they played. I sooner watched
Caitlyn Clark. I want to watch.

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I don't care if it's male,
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When, yeah, that was the
biggest game because it's the athlete that count.

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Andy When there is a transcendent talent. It doesn't matter what the sex

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or gender of that talent is.
Kaitlyn Clark is a once in a lifetime

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female basketball player. I mean she
she's the Michael Jordan right now, or

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the Lebron James of women's college basketball. And she's really that good. And

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it's compelling to watch her and to
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her female you know, opponents,
and and it's it's i't even to hear

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that. The they sayers and the
negative people and the morons basically which they

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are, said, well, yeah, you know, let's see what she

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does against men. No, she
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women. That's the way. That's
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a biological woman playing against women,
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Right, you're exactly right now.
I don't know what the Iowa schedule is,

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and I look about the mind fault. I should have looked up before

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we started chatting. But when they
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the Anniversity, I know they played
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I'm gonna drive out to Bloomington to
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they don't want to see a play. I want to meet her. I

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want to talk to story on her. I would I would make uh.

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I would make plans if it were
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it's well the statistics, because to
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think I would do it, you
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Stanford was playing locally female, I
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broke the all time record of wins
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Stanford. I'd love to meet her. See she's an amazing woman. Been

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coaching college basketball women's for thirty eight
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Ohio State prior to Stanford. Before
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sport changed all of a sudden.
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Andy, I'm not doing that at
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to watch any other women's basketball game. It's just because of Caitlyn Clark,

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I will, and because I'm with
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would go see NKU or U S
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statistical endeavors and accomplishments. But just
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the local team, to support the
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if I had a free and I
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the years I have seen Thomas more
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basketball are the three sixty slam dunks
if there are trampolines in But it's a

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different game. People they don't see
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played basically under the rim, and
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you will, but uh, you
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when people play that, women play
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Andy, just like you more than
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that that's that's my take on that, and I think I think that really

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and truly I mean, I understand
Tony Dungeye's old school, but man,

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time's change, man, I mean
they really do. No one uses rotary

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phones anymore. You know, it's
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a typewriter, but I still have
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got to change the good times?
I mean, if you don't move forward,

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you're moving backwards. Hey, you
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about them. I don't know why
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entitled to his opinion. Uh do
you have a suit? No doubt?

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Do you have a Super Bowl ring? Andy? Just asking? Oh he's

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the Hall of Fame? No,
I do not, And he's no Hall

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of Fame. I don't either.
Everybody has opinions, like buttholes. Everybody

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has one. Doesn't mean you have
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that's what makes everything beautiful because it
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that way? Coach? I mean
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I mean you you you made that
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appreciate that. Uh. But some
of our opinions may smell it as bad

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or worse than the other part.
And that's a few of the other I

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mean, our opinions could be stupid, they could be laughed at, they

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could be ridiculous, something could but
they thought provocative. That's the key.

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People start to think about it.
Said, you know what Gary, Jeff

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and Firman they were telling you know, they're kind of right. I never

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thought of it that way. It
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they can say these guys are really
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it for the shock value, which
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don't. I mean I could be
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need to put put it on shot
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People say things and you just want
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So we don't have to say things
for quote shock value. You have

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to stir the pot, as they
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out there and we agree and do
it dissip and I think we talk together

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because no one else will talk to
us. Andy, We've got to go

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to me. We're leaving now,
goodbye, okay, by Gary, do

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my pleasure, and she'll insist that that's

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not the case, but always my
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it means the world because I just
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that we have this great rapport together. Karen Katalene KK, the lady who

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is spouting off all the time and
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it with me on this particular occasion. Hello, KK, how are you

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well? Loo JGB go Jerry Chaff
how about that? It's very kind of

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you, and I appreciate you putting
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I am. No, no,
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instance pure, it's a sweet pain. So here's here's here's the thing.

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I guess if you week we talked
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the charade that is the political campaigns
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jump in with both feet and talk
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the presidential race in twenty twenty four. Well, you know, it's funny

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sometimes, you know, stuff comes
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what I'm going to say, but
it's usually based on some kind of you

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know, point of view. And
I guess I forgot that. We talked

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a little bit about this. So
I maintain what I maintained last week with

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a little bit of embellishment. So
now that Rondo Santis has dropped out and

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the ridiculous Chris Christy and the ridiculous
Mike Pens have also dropped out, here's

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what I think. And I just
wish my idea would catch on. But

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nobody ever listens to me except you
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husband once in a while. Here's
my thought. The primary quote unquote was

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always a lie designed to make it
look like Trump had significant opposition, which

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he never did. The Haley campaign
is merely a continuation of that. They

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never get called on the carpet for
what amounts to their active support for global

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communism. I'm talking about the right
and the left, the so called never

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Trumpers. Now, I don't have
many problems. You don't like Donald Trump,

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that's fine, but if you do
not stand up for someone who's being

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politically persecuted with whom you disagree,
then you're a fool because they'll come after

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you next. That's it, You're
next. Absolutely, But it's even worse

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than that. Things are really worse, and that is that we're not in

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the same political system we've ever been
in our lifetimes. It is, truly,

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and people are starting to write about
this. The elitistsbs versus the rest

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of us. One of the reasons
the so called Republicans who hate Donald Trump

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worse than they hate communists. In
fact, they don't hate communists. That's

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the dirty little secret, one of
the reasons they hate Donald Trump, and

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I'm not sure they most people who
claim to hate him really do. The

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masses, whoever they are, and
I think it's fewer than people think,

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have been whipped into a frenzy against
Trump by the constant propaganda which they cannot

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seem to see through. The Republican
elite, however, do hate Donald Trump

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for the simple reason that he exposed
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First, they hated him because he
wasn't conservative enough, which was a

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lie, and when he turned out
to be a whole more conservative than they

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ever were. They hated them even
worse because they were exposed and they ran

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out of excuses. And what really
bothers me is that these people, Pence

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and Liz Cheney and that whole bunch
in the bushies, all of them who've

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been supporting communists and communist sympathizers,
who want global communism. Many of them

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believe, as you saw this week, that US little peasants have way too

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much personal freedom and they ought to
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us. Well, they've never been
held accountable for that, And so I

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just wish people wouldn't play the stupid
game of the primary, because there is

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no support for anybody in the grassroots
except Trump, who has been politically persecuted,

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and to do so, to play
that game is to play by their

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rules. Notice, nobody because they
own the media, ever says a word

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about the fact that Biden will not
debate anyone. Biden will not have any

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legitimate challengers. They only believe in
challenging their opponents, never themselves. And

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we should not play that game.
Because Trump is the nominee, you will

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be the nominee. And yes,
they will do every dirty trick in the

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book to destroy him, including taking
him off the ballot, which of course

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doesn't mean that they'd never achieved an
election. So I'm just saying, let's

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not eat the patbleum they feed us, well, another faise, we don't

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have to eat it. Another judge
in another state has said, no Donald

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Trump print the ballot's Donald Trump's name
is going to be on them that that

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thing was doomed to fail from the
start. It's just another rock they're throwing

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at the house, Karen, And
you're right. It is the elites,

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or the people who consider themselves elite, whether it's Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab

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or any of the rest of those
idiots and davos. But they, the

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ones that claim to be elite,
should really learn history. And when I

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say that, when I say that, they should learn history by going back

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to the French Revolution and what happened, what happened to the let them eat

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cakers like Marie Antoinette and Louis the
fourteenth what happened. What happened to them,

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of course, as history will tell
you, is they lost their power

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and then they lost their heads.
So, you know, just a warning,

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a warning to the globalist A warning
to the Marxists, the communists who

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want total control of the entire world, and all of us, just be

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careful what you are striving for because
it may not in the way you vision

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envision it. Just because of your
money and your power doesn't mean that you're

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going to win. And if we
stand up to them, then they cannot

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win too many of us. And
from your mouth to God's ears, Gary

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Jeff Walker, what I'd like to
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that the actions that they take,
and granted not every single one is the

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marginal Z step, but the great
majority of them. Do have you ever

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noticed, you know, the intersectionality
of it all, and you take one

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radical leftist, insane position, supposedly
you take them all, and on that

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point, their actions the very this
is what I want to say, and

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I'm putting it in bold, you
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The very fact that they would take
seriously, that they would take their most

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formidable, their only formidable opponents off
the ballot by claiming he's guilty of the

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very things they framed him for.
The fact that they would do that is

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an indictment of them without having to
argue the point. The fact that anybody,

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for example, would censor another person's
position, point of view dissent indict

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them as the fascists and the tyrants
that they are. So I don't like

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debating the issue. Oh well,
they're not going to get away with it.

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I like debating the issue that the
very idea that they would do such

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a thing shows them exposes them for
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Indeed, no person who believes in
true democracy and a republic and America

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would ever do such a thing.
There were strength. This is a perfect

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exclamation point to this conversation because we're
out of time. Karen, thank you

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very much. I love you.
Ah yeah, get me going there,

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Gary Jesse, you just too well. That's the fun. It's the nightcap

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It's got it Tick Market. There
is the Nightcap once again. We are

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talking with k Okay, Karen,
Kataline. What's going on, babe,

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oh, Jerry, Jeff Well and
you know, everything is punky dory in

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the world is not really? No, no, no, not really.

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Our last conversation, we were talking
about the elites, like at the World

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Economic Forum, which should actually have
a different name because do you see some

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of the weirdos that are there.
Did you see the spirit goddess that was

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blowing on people in the panel with
the video that was just so crazy last

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week? It generates some of the
weirdest stuff I've ever seen in my life.

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And it really doesn't surprise me that
John Kerry, Bill Gates and all

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these other so called elites are into
all of that. But man, what

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a bunch of bizarro people. I
mean, outside of the fact that they're

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dangerous. But you know, go
ahead. I looked two minds about it.

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On the one hand, we can
laugh and we can mock them,

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and boy oh boy, my feeling
is they were brought up on way too

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many bad sci fi movies. B
movies because they're living in there dtor evil.

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You know, they're the ones when
you say, well, I want

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to take over the world, these
people really really do. So Mockery is

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good, humor is good. But
then the other side of the coin is

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you cannot underestimate how dangerous these people
really are. They believe in genocide.

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They believe in depopulation. There's a
word for depopulation. It's called genocide.

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And my response to them, if
I had a response, they go to

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listen to me. You know,
you heard Kluschwob walked out of a speech

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you didn't like. Is you first, baby, Well, it's just you

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don't think people should own anything,
but they'll be happy you first, you

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think you need to depopulate the world. You first, you volunteer and stop

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telling other people and playing god and
telling other people, well, well who

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will live and who will die?
That's so dangerous. One more thought.

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Yes, something happened, you know, seventy years ago. It started a

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long time ago, Karen. It
started with the eugenics movement in this country

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in a Nazi Germany. And you
know the reason that we still have planned

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parenthood and the reason that we still
had legal murder of unborn babies for over

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fifty years in this country and they're
still fighting tooth and nailed to keep it.

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But these people were the same people
the eugenicist, you know, Margaret

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Sanger and her crew. They were
equally Marxists in control of want to be

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in control of everyone's lives and eliminating
the bad element from the human gene pool.

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You know that that was the same
mentality. It's no different. The

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only problem is there's two things they
got now that they never had before.

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A lot of things they've got.
They've got insane amount of technology, enormous

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money and power. It's like giving
Doctor Evil the keys to the kingdom.

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My question is who's gonna stop them? Yeah, I don't know. We

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need a superman. You need a
superman to fight the super villains. And

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maybe it's it's Austin Powers. Maybe
it's Clark Kent. I'm not sure.

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Maybe it's Donald Trump. I have
no idea, but we need a superman.

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And you mentioned Klaus Schwab walking out
of a speech he didn't like at

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Davos last week, the Argentinian president. The pair on that guy is unbelievable.

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And I don't know if you know
the text of what this new Argentinian

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president said at Davos, but it
was just a big, flying, fickled

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finger of fate in all of their
faces, all of those elites faces.

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It was great. That's the very
beginning. We must shine a light on

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the evil that they are, because
when they crawl under rocks, they're even

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more dangerous. And to your point
about looking for a superman or an Austin

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powers, now we're living in an
extraordinary time in which we at to be

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superman, to borrow from the radical
left, you know, be the change

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you want to see in the world. Well, it's up to us,

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because we're the ones, everyday citizens, the ones they think are peasants who

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don't deserve to live except maybe to
live as serfs in their master universe.

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We're the ones with the targets on
our backs. We're the ones they're really

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after. Are people who remember individual
freedom, personal responsibility, accountability, and

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the humility to recognize that you are
not God. Those are the things they

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hate more than anything, along with
principles, character, integrity, and oh,

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I don't know the Constitution. They
hate these things. So not only

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do we have to hold fast to
these things. But remember, there may

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not be Superman to stay this this
time. We're going to have to save

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ourselves. And that's what's scary because
people feel very, very helpless and hopeless,

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and we can't have that. That's
why, that's why I keep on

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praying for clarity, discernment, bravery, all of those things, because you're

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right, Ultimately, maybe only God
Almighty can save us. But you know,

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we can put up a fight while
we're here, and we should and

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in any way that we can.
And like I said, shining the light

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up, that there are signs up
in my little town in northern Kentucky,

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in the poor section of town.
Oddly enough, I didn't see them,

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you know, on the on the
east side and all the historic homes where

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the rich people live. But I
did see them, and it says election

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Protection and if you have questions about
politics, please call us, join us.

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So I look at the protection Election
Protection, and I called the number,

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and sadly they were closed today.
I guess they're not worrying about protecting

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my election today, or at least
as early as I called. But I

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looked on their site, their their
homepage, and it's it's a whole wall

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of people with masks on, and
it looks like Antifa's greatest hits. These

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people are not trying to protect anybody's
election. They're they're recruiting. They're recruiting

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Soros paid members to join them,
is what they're doing well, and that's

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part of what we are seeing more
than anything else today. The level of

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deception and propaganda today is truly astounding. You know, many of us used

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to marvel at the propaganda and say
World War two and communists rush us the

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old Soviet Union, the level of
propaganda. But there's nothing new under the

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sun. And if you can convince
people that good is evil and evil is

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good and yes there is a phrase
in the Bible it's similar to that,

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then you can get them to believe
anything. Yep. Absolutely, Karen Katileen,

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thank you very much. I know
you've got to toddle off and have

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to tuddle, you have to tundle, so uh be careful with that and

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we'll try and we'll try and keep
the home fires burning here until our next

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conversation. But thank you as brilliant
yeh o perfect Karenkatalene dot com if you'd

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like to check her out online.
It's the nightcare and we roll on on

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