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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
back to the Boys. Season four of

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you. The penultimate episode lots of
penultimates this week, I'm the clown Prince

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of Puppets dressed now. I'm joined
by hashtag me too, Taylor Field,

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Thank you too, you know your
name. I feel like between this season

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and then gen V with my name, lots of lots of puppets with the

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Boys. They like puppets, you
know, so it's not a bad thing.

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But yes, we're here to talk
about this. You're getting this a

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little bit early because we are reviewing
Long Legs tomorrow. And also there is

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rumor to be a Captain America trailer, so we might talk about that in

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the minisode. I'm also all Marble
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So you're getting this a little bit
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not sure is was there any movies
next week? Oh? You guys got

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twisters, so we have to figure
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Yeah really really, by time this
retro draws, the movie is gonna be

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celebrate the nine year. My goodness, So I will go on my overalls

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because I wasn't here last week,
So I think this to kind of combo

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this weekend last week together. I
think this week I am in the camp

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where I because I think there's been
a debate of like, I feel like

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it's been more mixed this season,
right, I don't think like a bad

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mix. But I think it's been
more like you know, there's been a

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contention of oh, it's a good
season, it's fun, or hey,

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not a lot is happening. I'm
in the camp where I have enjoyed it,

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but I do agree with some of
the sentiments where especially like last week

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it was you know, episode six, and that was you know, just

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two way from the finale, And
I did like last week and the last

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five minutes you've got lots of kind
of revelations or kind of showing which pass

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we're gonna go for the end of
the season. But I did agree that

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a lot of it which was fun, all the tech night stuff, all

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the sex stuff, a good time, lots of fun, but it was

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it was one of the more over
top, over the top episodes. And

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I think this season, I think, what's different, I'll have to really

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think back on it, where I
feel it's a very much more specific character

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stuff like hewing his dad Butcher and
what's going on is his mind and his

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homeland, or and dealing with not
only some but just like evolving, where

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I feel like the other scenes were
a bit more plot progressions. So that's

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where I feel like that might be
throwing some people off, and I could

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agree where versus this week though,
and I think it is okay because it's

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a penultimate. It kind of feels
like for it's tough because I feel like

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you can say this is great and
it's almost like Game of Thrones, and

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then they said their great pen ultimate
episodes. And I do think this is

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a great episode, but it feels
like we got a lot that happened in

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the last twenty minutes to a point
where you maybe I don't know how,

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but I think you maybe could have
spread some of it out because, like

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I said, for the past few
weeks that you know, like And another

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example was that episode where it was
like the Animal's episode with the v right,

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like other than getting John Carlow back, that felt like another like okay,

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Like it's like you get the scientists
and that's it and the rest is

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kind of okay. Lots of high
jigs. I think that's been the thing

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that people have been talk about,
is there been too much hijienks versus plot

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progression. But I think this one
had a good combo of it. I

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will say they brought U what is
his name, web Weaver back, Yeah,

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we won't spell it happens there.
We'll just say, like that's some

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that shtick for me, I had
enough of it. Like this episode was

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just like the same joke over and
over. But overall, I think this

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is a very penultimate episode, last
twenty minutes. Is you want progression,

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you get a lot of it.
It's just like boom boom boom, very

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very fast. So I think the
finale is gonna be great, and I'm

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kind of hoping that means that it
sounds a weird thing to say, but

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season four, I think the long
run, I think it's always gonna be

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good. I think so far I
would put it below all the other seasons.

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But I think it's gonna be weird
to say this about the entire season,

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but it might feel like a setup
season so episode or season five,

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they can just really go balls to
the walls, no pun intended. So

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I think there's pros and cons with
that because you can get some stuff of

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the way, but at the same
time kind of suffer. But I think

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this was a really good setting the
table for the finale. Also, like

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I said, with the back half, that delivered on some big, big

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moments, some you know, cool
fight scenes, some big character shifts as

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well, and that's where it just
it literally just felt like they hit like

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a jump forward button on some people
like, Oh, we're just gonna get

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this right now. I was like, okay, so I'm interesting where that

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goes. There's one twist in particular
that did not see coming at all.

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I think they did that kind of
on purpose. But man, that's a

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that's a shitty that's a shitty situation
to be And so yeah, I think

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this was probably the best episode of
the season so far. So yeah,

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that's where it was last week.
I enjoyed it, and that's where I

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would just end up being too tired, uh to make it. So I

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think you were holding on the floor. Even though there's probably some disparagure things

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said about me again geek first day
me tayor rest the match number four.

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But I think there's a lot of
intriguing things. Like I said, maybe

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it's kind of like it feels almost
similar to the Act Lite penultimate, where

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like I wonder if this would have
been better like a little earlier on in

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the season. I don't know what
they have planned for season five that's different

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than Aclite, right, because we
don't even know, if there's a season

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two, season five, it could
be all constructed where they had had this.

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I think maybe this could have been
a bit more of exciting episode earlier

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and we could have got some progression
and there's some stuff like I don't know

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what the fuck we're doing with the
Frenchy storyline Comico, you know, like

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we do this one storyline and it's
just like it's Lily just flipped like oh,

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that's so where it's like, well, like I said, I just

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like, is this a character that
we just don't have anything to do and

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should we just killed all like same
thing? Maybe we should just fucking kill

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them off in the middle of the
season. People be like, man,

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a big progression. I'm not saying
it because they don't like french Schie.

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They just did Like I said,
I liked this episode a lot. I

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still cons where they just did something
where I went, what was the point

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of this. It's just it just
feels like we've been here before, and

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it just feels like at easy out
of Oh this is a big step for

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this character, Like oh nah,
actually we're just kind of back to the

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status quo. It's like, all
right, I really don't know what we're

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what we're doing here sometimes with that
character specifically, can we go less?

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So? But so I don't have
no cons. But uh yeah, what

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were your thoughts on this episode?
Yeah, I don't. I don't have

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any cons either. I think it
is I said I had cons, You

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had cons? Oh, you know, you don't think The French schie thing

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is when we get to spoilers as
far as like we're they do this thing

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and then they're like, yeah,
this person I think figured it out and

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we're into retrospect. It's it impacts
negatively those other episodes more than this one.

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I would say, Uh, then
we got all those episodes of building

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up this thing and then it's like
this big thing that he does, and

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now it's just they just took it
back. They yeah, yeah, that's

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that's it. So over. Although
I really like the episode. It moves

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things along and yeah, there's some
there's some twists in here, there's some

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confrontations I wasn't expecting, and I
felt like we had a lot of really

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just lines drawn and sentimental moments too
with some of these characters. So I

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really really liked it, and it
has really set up the next finale.

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The next episode of the finale quite
well that I'm just I'm on edge.

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I'm excited to see it, and
I think you're right though, I think

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that this is just acting as kind
of like that set up season right,

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and it's gonna season five is gonna
be just absolutely crazy. I think so.

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So I hope so yeah, I
imagine. Well, especially with the

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being the last one, I don't
want to hear in that shit. I

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can't. The guy that plays m
m manthey started like, Oh, we're

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trying to angle it to be like
a cliffhanger season, so we could do

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a movie. I'm like, I
don't want that, Like I I know,

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you do the Boys movie. Something
else. I don't want the show

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to end this way. So anything
else non spoiler. Ah, just the

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way this episode ended, I I
wasn't expecting it. I felt like,

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okay, well something something's different.
But I wasn't expecting that. That caught

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me off guards. So yeah,
that's that's crazy. Yeah, So let's

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take our ad break and then,
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if not, we're gonna take a break

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and then we'll be right back and
we're back. Yeah, let's start with

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that one, because that's definitely the
biggest one, because I don't because obviously

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we've met characters before, like that
Homelander got like the guy Homelander was messing

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around with season two. I can't
remember his name where he's like a changing

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a shape shifter, right, but
I can't remember. I think he had

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some generic name like shape shifter or
change or something or whatever. His was

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different where his body like doppleganger,
right, his body morphed. And then

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so we met this character her and
now I'm forgetting because it's you know,

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almost two am here. Where did
it's the character that cut Hue? Where

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were they originally? What were they
looking into in this episode when they found

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this character, because he's the whatever
they are, they're the shooter. Basically,

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they're gonna fascinate the president. And
so they were hired by Sage and

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they found the documents of the heist
and the plans for the building of this

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event, right, and they're right
apart. Okay, so I forgot about

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the stage part. Yeah, they
got that documents. They find this girl

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that's all beat up, so the
think, oh, who's this poor girl?

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Well, who knows what gender this
thing is? I think it's gonna

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have a general probably like that gen
v character. But uh, they find

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this poor girl looking a little rough, maybe beaten in a claw as that

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here. He goes to help her
out, gets the knife to the hand,

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and then she starts to run,
and they're like, oh, this

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is weird. And then all of
a sudden, there's just like little globes

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of like skin everywhere and there's black, Like, what the fuck's going on?

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So then when it seems like this
character, unlike doppel Ganger that like

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is a mystique that shapes the body, this seems like it's more like a

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snake situation that sheds their skin,
but instead of just shutting their skin to

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be themselves again, they showed their
skin to be someone new. And so

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this is the person that takes to
the president. And this is where it

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felt like, not Rush, but
I almost wonder if this could have been

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something that could have been in last
week or something, because it does feel

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like we meet this character now huge
like huge situation that has been presented not

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only trying to kill the president,
but just with our character. So this

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character gets away, We'll get to
other stuff, but later on, you

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know, tough day for the boys, Starlight and God Butcher getting a beer

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together, and this fan wants to
take a picture with Starlight. She goes

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to well, I don't know which
way to tell, but I guess I

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can tell it in chronological order that
she goes to the washroom and this fan

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hits her with some sort of chloroform, knocks her out, locks her up,

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and then what we did that happens
at the end of the episode.

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What they showed us first was he
was back at home when he's talking with

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Starlight and Starlight has the costume on, even though she looked like she had

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no interest in it whatsoever. So
I was with you, was like,

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eh, this seems like a little
something might be off. And even then,

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like I get like because they start
to have sex and again throws a

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passion, but it felt it just
felt different where it's just weird because that's

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still Huey. So I don't know, like I guess it's just saying classic

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mail and whatnot, but it just
felt too almost like joyous for a day

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where it's like things aren't really going
well, but yeah, they have sex,

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and then they cut to Huey asleep
and Starlight's looking them all happy,

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saying, Okay, they're just that's
what it is. Even if they had

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this very good, happy sex and
maybe that's what they just needed and they'll

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go on with the day. But
no, uh, Starlight, fake Starlight

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goes the safe, opens it up, gets some stuff, gets the laptop,

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everything, those documents on Victoria.
So that's not good. And then

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they reveal that, like we just
talked about chronologically, that this you know

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snake person, this you know this
changer that's the one that was with Hue

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and did the swap at the bar, And yes, Starlight is locked up.

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And I have some questions about starlight
strength overall now, because I felt

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like she did like all superpowers have
like stronger strength, but I feel like

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in the fight with the Deep until
a train showed up, she got like

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her ass kicked the entire time.
She's not an ADVID fighter, I would

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say, right, I don't think
any of them really are. But I

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just felt like they made it so
one sided. And then I guess maybe

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she doesn't have strength because I thought
you would break through this chain, but

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I guess she just really doesn't.
That looks like I mean, I think

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she has strength for sure. I
mean, she was lifting up the deep

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just by having her fingertips and his
gills, right, that takes strength with

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the folkol man so and those chains
looked like they were extra fortified with something

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in there, So I guess I'll
have to hear it next episode. I'm

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sure they'll just get some bullshit reason
as far. Oh yeah, this is

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this is Vaught tested whatever. I'm
sure that'll be at even then. I'm

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excited, I guess, but more
interested of why they're keeping her alive.

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But yeah, what did you think
about this twist here that hu has now

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had sex with so it's not Starlight
and now they've lost all the files and

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Starlight is locked up. So that's
quite the triple hitter right there. For

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the opposing side, Yeah, I
can't see Starlight getting broken free in the

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finale. I feel like something's gonna
come life or death kind of scenario.

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Cliffhanger is gonna happen for her there, because something was creaking on the floorboards

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when she was like chain and looking
around. It was completely catching me off

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guard. The fact that yeah,
this this changer did not need to have

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sex with Hughie, but just so
offt to to just to I guess make

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him go to sleep like it could
It could have gone so many different ways,

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did not have to go that way, but the Changer chose that way

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so she could just kill them.
Like that's the thing where it's like,

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why wouldn't you just kill Huie and
that he has no reason it's you Like

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that's where especially because that's why I'm
interested to see, Like I'm guessing maybe

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it's Newman that did that, right, because maybe she just wouldn't. She's

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still we see that her and Hue
still get along and it's said right,

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and I think she doesn't view him. She used him as the opposing side,

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but not maybe as I don't think
the Newman has any tat like connection

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to the Changer though, I think
that's all sage and that was just the

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Changer just I don't know, being
fucked up. Maybe. I'm sure it'll

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come into play later on and I'll
have a very effective dynamic between the two

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characters once Hue finds out. I
guess it finds out too. I guess

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it's just interesting because people to bring
this up before, but especially this situation,

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I'll have to see the reasoning because
just why wouldn't this changing, just

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kill Hueie, Like what what?
What reason do they need Hue alive for

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anymore? So that's why I think
it's Newman, because she would say,

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don't kill him. That does make
sense. I feel I feel like Sage

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has her reasons, especially because we
know she knew that a training was the

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leak the whole time and was just
choosing to Like she she doesn't. It

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doesn't seem like she wants these people
to be getting killed. Why we got

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killed and she's like, oh,
like Homeland is just killing people and she

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doesn't want that. I think she
wants people in specific places so that she

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can either use them or just I
guess everyone is of value to a certain

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degree, and so that's so I
feel like even the boys are valuable because

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a train's giving them information and what
they do with that information will help her

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and her cause. I originally thought
that when the Changer was in the closet

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and was like, oh, you're
Starlight and she touches Starlight and then we

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see her start changing, I thought, Okay, she's going to turn to

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Starlight and assassinate the president as Starlight. That would really fuck. She's still

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might and she's still light. So
they we'll see how that that scenario unfolds,

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because that scene wasn't ending with her
changing out of that skin, right,

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so she can say it Starlight and
if you want to keep your cover,

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like if you want to keep things
cope athetic if she goes missing Hue

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and everyone would know the plus like
if she goes missing the laptop it's missing,

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I feel like that makes people a
lot more worrisome because then that's too

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where the lap I was just missing. That's oh, hey, we were

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sleeping someone broken or someone broken while
we weren't away. Where if Starlight's missing,

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then I think you go to death
con right away. Okay, laptop's

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missing and Starlight's gone, so someone's
really fucking with us. So no,

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I thought it was a good surprise. Now I'm trying to say, oh,

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I'm never not often surprised by shows
because I can be, but like

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I still feel like even like House
of Dragon the battle there where it's like

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it's great, but you kind of
know, okay, second character does this,

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Ah, they're probably not gonna make
it, and that's fine because that's

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the storytelling and it's like going well, but that's where it's like this was

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a genuine surprise, and I think
that's one good thing where this character was

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featured enough. I still think you
could have featured them last week with the

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same amount of screen time, but
they weren't in there for I'm glad they

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didn't do something like a whole episode
of Starlight maybe being off and then the

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reveal. I think they were smart
to do it at the end like this,

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and I kind of wish that.
You know, it's kind of funny.

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Last year we got Secret Invasion and
we're kind of getting a version like

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this. This was always my pitch
of, like, I'm not the biggest

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Scrolls fan, but might always which
was, Okay, if you're gonna have

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someone that's to scrawl and it's someone
we know, show us the you like

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the viewers first, so we're in
on it, and then that's like,

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oh, the whole time we can
watch knowing like next week if we see

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her with the boys, we can
go, oh, well, that's not

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real Starlight and you get to analyze
and everything where a big twist. Sometimes

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you can kind of feel like you
got screwed out of it. So this

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was like a fun being literally screwed
out of it because it's one scene where

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you're like, oh, this is
odd, but okay, they're just feeling

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it in the moment. She's back
in her caution and she had no interest

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in But that's where it's like you
don't feel too betrayed because it's like a

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two minute scene. You're like,
Okay, that's clever. Where a whole

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episode even or a season, like
you know, Secret Invasion sometimes doesn't always

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pan out the greatest. But yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen.

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I don't think she'll you know,
I don't think there'll be any ill will

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to the sex aspect. That just
sucks. But like, how is he

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supposed to? No? I guess
right, because that's a you know,

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that's a difficult situation. It's I
mean, how I guess she might.

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I guess she might say something like, oh you should know what the suit.

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I just really don't want them to
be broken apart or fighting or anything

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like that. Again, I want
them to be back on the same wavelength.

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So hopefully it's just looked as like
a you know, unfortunate incident,

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but you move on from it.
So we don't know the limit to of

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the changer. Now do they inherit
the powers of another suit that they touch.

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I don't think so, because I
was thinking, like every time they

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do a sex scene with Hue and
Starlights, she's always like she doesn't and

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her eyes to glow. Yeah,
and they cut it in here so you

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don't see that, so that was
another kind of miss. Yeah. I

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don't know if that's the case,
because we like Doppelganger, that was just

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period looks and you know, X
men and obviously not the same can at

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all, But that kind of varies
at time, so I would prefer not

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to. I always think that's almost
too opie of a power. If you

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get I know, it could be
like to a weaker degree, but you

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turn them and get their power,
it's like, okay, that's that's a

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bit much. But yeah, we'll
see. I'm trying to think Starlights.

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She had a conversation her mum or
mom still kind of is disappointed there because

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the abortion thing. So that's something. And then the other thing we can

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talk about on transition is yeah,
Starlight and uh, Butcher, who's just

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fucking knocking on death door not looking
good? Uh. They were attacked at

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the Boys Center office run number by
the Deep and Black Noir, which is

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very interesting because they were we thought
that Black Nor might just be a regular

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guy actor, but I guess he's
still a soup because he had powers,

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he was taking shotgun things, he
was fucking flying, and he's a narcoleptic.

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Yeah. Yeah, so that that
was interesting that I didn't think they're

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going that rite. I was just
there to intimidate. And then the Deep,

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who's also just he's in the deep
where he's feeling a lot of pressure.

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He killed his octopus girlfriend accidentally,
non accidentally, like he I think

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he had enraged destroy the case,
but he also didn't save her. So

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I'm gonna say that's a that's a
murder. That's that's definitely a murder.

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Yeah. It was like that Shrek
the Third death scene with the King dying,

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because the is like the the heavy
breathing of they think they're dead,

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and this octopus kept wheezing behind the
door. He's like, what the fuck.

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I'm like, I don't remember any
uh per. I guess she was

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fucking a frog, so I guess
it's the same thing. This guy's fucking

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octopus. But yeah, I killed
her and that was the start of this

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is definitely the most aggressive I've ever
seen the deep people goes right into Homeland,

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in to the office. I'll kill
everybody for y'all. Kill the fish

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in the sea and his homelander.
Now we get found out Layer that he

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wants him just to go kill the
boys. His homelander will get to him.

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He's also just in the fucking deep
as well. But they head over

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there a trains in his full hero
mode. Now he saves Hue and he

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saves Starlight and Butcher. So it's
great we've gone that full turn. I

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hope he makes it the season five, even if he dies. I I

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worry that he's gonna die next week. I really hope. I think.

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I hope. I just worry if
they want one big death I could see,

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like because he did get out and
with his family and he got his

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tracker, So I hope that's the
situation. I just don't I want to

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be around for the fanatic, just
because he's It's that classic story, right

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if he's having that hero turn around, finally doing good and then, like

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my prediction does no matter what,
I don't think he makes it to the

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end of the show. That's what
I'll say. I think he will bite

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the dust because I think that's a
classic die a hero. Yeah, but

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like that sucks. He's finally becoming
a hero, so he couldn't stay longer

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been a hero. But yeah,
that's why it's gonna suck. He'll turn

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that. But yeah, what did
you think of the fights he obviously they

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did not win there. They again
also made the Deep seem stronger than I

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thought he was because they beat him
up and they throw this huge weight on

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his head and they say something why
about killing him? And Mm's like,

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oh, you got an idea?
So it's like does Deep also is like

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how do you kill him? Like? I feel like the Deep doesn't need

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to be an invincible being. You
know, there's probably certain degrees of resilience

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that these characters have. And I
mean when you see a soup kill another

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soup, well, like Homelinder.
I mean, Homelander's got all the Bee's

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knees, so it's different. But
yeah, I don't know what the limitations

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are with a Deep. As for
him and Black Noir showing up, I

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thought it was I thought it was
pretty awesome. I like seeing the Deep

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just be batshit crazy for a second
when he did appear there, I thought,

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is he also going to be like
just usually playing Homelander and he's turning

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on a new leaf here, But
no, he was calling uh, Starlight

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a bitch and he was just getting
pissed off. And I like seeing Starlight

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have a little bit of like vindication
here and kind of getting her revenge on

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the Deep a little bit because he
just did her so dirty in that first

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first season. So I yeah,
this is well warranted, especially like I

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think it's a good thing of a
train saving them because you can see the

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differences of a character finally learning their
differences where or learning from their mistakes where

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Deep is literally this episode he's going, oh, and you accused an innocent

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man? He's like, no,
you like he like sexually assaulted, and

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like there was it was like a
clean cut, clear case that you were

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a terrible person. Is a white
man the victim, yeah, innocent cancelation

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and stuff. So I think it
was good to have them phase off to

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show like the two sides of the
coin. The person that saw the light

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and think I got it changes and
I can't. I gotta be a better

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person and shout out to last week's
episode when he did save MM and that

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kids saw him and was like inspired
and a train was for the first time's

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life like an actual hero. But
then you see the other side of the

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coin where it's the cowardice, where
someone keeps falling back into doing these things.

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And now I think that Deep is
like he's never more been more committed

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to Homelander than he is right now, you know. So yeah, scary,

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it's scary. Yeah, I'll be
just gonna see what goes on there.

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And I thought that Black North had
taken off, but I'm kind of

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glad he's stuck around. I like
that he's talking and just when he's flying

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and doing all this crazy shit,
everyone's freaking the fuck out, like what's

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going on? And yeah, then
MM shows up and just mukes him with

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the mini gun out the window,
which is pretty crazy. Yeah, they

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had a lot of weapons in there, which was smart. So a lot

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of weapons are very very smart.
I like the follow up of them,

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just obviously they reported a trained Homelander
and they're talking down the hallway and you

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just get like a thirty second scene
like bro bro bro, And then they

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find out that Sage was sleeping with
both of them, but she was not

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dumbing herself down. To sleep with
Black Noir. Deep's like bro kind of

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an insult for the Deep, for
the deep there that she just still a

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bottomize herself to be with him.
So yeah, no, we'll see.

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I think Deep will make it to
the very end, and I hope Starlight

404
00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:32,200
kills him for whatever. She's gonna
need more, I guess than heavy lifting

405
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,279
and everything. But yeah, no, he's like I said, no punt

406
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,319
him, but he's going off the
deep end. I don't think he's killing

407
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000
his fish partners now. And now
he's lost Sage, so I don't know

408
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,079
what's gonna happen there. And then
yeah, to transition to Homelander, he's

409
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:52,079
he's a more of a mess than
ever. Ryan's just not really cooperating.

410
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:57,960
He's mad about this leak situation.
Firecracker says, it's web Weaver, who

411
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,240
like kind of kind of was I
give her that, yeah, in a

412
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:06,160
way, but I don't think he
was like the leak. But I feel

413
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,480
like she thought he was the leak, and web We've unfortunately kind of answered

414
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,240
questions that made it sound like he
was the leak. Oh he was coked

415
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:17,200
up right, Yeah, So that
was a scene that I didn't I won

416
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:18,480
too many web far jokes. I
get. He's like, oh, I'm

417
00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:22,400
nervous, like to me too,
right when they walk in and then maybe

418
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,480
another one. They did it like
four times. I was over and I

419
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:29,599
was, Okay, this isn't funny
for me anymore. Homelander decides to kill

420
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,359
him, just rips him in half
in front of a Firecracker, which is

421
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:37,160
interesting because I feel like she's not
really a love interest per se, but

422
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,000
she may grow to be, or
she kind of is. But I feel

423
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,319
like between oh, I can't remember
the girl in the first one, but

424
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,279
the girl that was original breast Milk
one and then storm Front all his like

425
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,880
love interests have seen him kill,
and then it's I guess spoke one in

426
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,119
the first season. I don't even
think that was a love interest. That

427
00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:00,319
was what Firecracker is, right,
No, he loved her. They they

428
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,480
were having sex and everything like that. Were they having sex yeah, yeah,

429
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:03,960
oh yeah, they got it on. Yeah, so they were in

430
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:07,160
a relationship. But and like I
said, I guess maybe him did date.

431
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,480
But I'm saying his main ones for
our show, in our when our

432
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:15,880
timeline we were watching both those characters
knew what a bad person Homelander was and

433
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:22,160
was either fine with it or employed
that where I don't think firecrackers against it,

434
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:23,759
Like she's not turning against him.
Later on this episode, she offers

435
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:29,680
her assets again, but I think
she was so very surprised that homelanders kind

436
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,480
of this brutal and that's where it's
interesting. I don't think she's gonna turn

437
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:37,119
anything, but I think now she
feels a little out of her death.

438
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,079
Then yeah, she did offer herself
and he said no, he pushed everyone

439
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,440
away. I fan again, this
fits the home Lander character, but an

440
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,160
egotistical, like idiot in a way
of I don't get why he's crying about

441
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,680
a tran and being the league because
it's like, you've treated this guy like

442
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:56,279
shit for like at least four years
years, four seasons and he's like acting

443
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,599
like this is like his fucking brother
or like a wife betraying, and he's

444
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,640
like, oh my, I could
believe it. Hands like what like out

445
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,559
of everybody, like I get because
he's like the one of the only last

446
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,880
original seven from when we started the
show, not counting the New Black Noir.

447
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,400
So I think that fit Homelander,
that he was so worked up about

448
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,680
it, But like, I don't
know man. You you pressured this man

449
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:23,160
and do a lot of bad things. So but yeah, Homelander, he's

450
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,799
uppity. Yeah, but Homelander again, he also looked like he is the

451
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,559
deep is going a bad route,
but he's more just like motivated, where

452
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,880
Homelander, I feel like we could
next week get the thing where he just

453
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,839
snaps and murders a bunch of innocent
people, Like I really think he is

454
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,400
very And now that was last chair
in the top two, that Ryan.

455
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,720
He didn't say whatever the truth was, which I don't know what he was

456
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:49,559
gonna say. I don't know if
he was just gonna out fought or what

457
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,640
the case is on some stuff.
But either way, he's not listening to

458
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,279
Homelander now. So I feel like
that vision he had a couple of seasons

459
00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:00,079
ago where he just lasered a bunch
of people, I could see something similar

460
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:07,279
but real life this time, because
I feel like he's he's really at the

461
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,599
end of his rope right now.
He doesn't he's even when he killed those

462
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920
signs is a couple episodes ago,
he seemed more like calm, collected and

463
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,680
at peace, where now he's just
he's fidgeting around, he's crying, he

464
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,079
just he's a complete mess right now. And I think we're gonna see something

465
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,720
really bad happen next week with Homelander. Yeah, no, I agree.

466
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:30,200
I think he's the only thing he's
got left is firecracker in her breast milk.

467
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,319
But it's only gonna go so far
because he's shut that down. He's

468
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:41,119
really really alone because he still has
Nor and Deep, but Noora doesn't really

469
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400
count. He knows it's not the
same Noir in Deep. Yeah, he

470
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,599
doesn't doing it. Noir is still
like he's still with them, right,

471
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
like he's still gonna fall orders,
I guess. So it's like yeah,

472
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,680
yeah, oh, I love when
Deep gave that proclamation of I'll kill everybody,

473
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,839
I'll kill all of a sudden like
fish in the Seventh Seas, and

474
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,079
he's like, all that's great,
Like he like he said he gave no

475
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,920
shits about like the Deepest pretty much
doing like uh in my acts and the

476
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:11,039
even when we saw when he left
that message to Ryan when he say,

477
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,160
okay, can you do this for
me? Okay, great? Thanks,

478
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,519
love you buy, Like he's like, that's where I guess the Deep so

479
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,160
dumb he won't pick it up,
but Ryan does pick it up that,

480
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,359
Yeah, starting to show that he
doesn't care about him, maybe as much.

481
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,640
I don't know, because I do
think Homelander does care about Ryan.

482
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,079
We've seen that before. But I
think it's just that again, if it

483
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,480
comes down to Ryan versus Homelander,
Homelander is always still gonna pick himself,

484
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,160
you know. Oh yeah, no, for sure, He's done that so

485
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,759
many times already, even with this
phone call where he's like, oh,

486
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,160
just do it for me, you
know, the show for me. Yeah,

487
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:44,279
So what do you think Ryan was
gonna say when he was gonna say

488
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:45,599
the truth and then he left the
way. Oh, I don't know.

489
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,960
I mean, I'm not even sure
everything that he does know, But it's

490
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,079
it's tricky, Well what his Homelander
really told him, right, like let

491
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,720
him out any secrets? I don't
think he knows about concentration camps for the

492
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:06,559
disobeyors and the new Vaughtland the Homelander
wants to create. So and if he

493
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,599
doesn't, I feel like that time
he spent with Mallory, I know he

494
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,920
was a kid, but I feel
like Mallory should have just been giving him

495
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,119
all that info about all that bad
stuff. So like if Homelander ever did

496
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160
get him. It wasn't like a, oh, this is my dad and

497
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,799
I just love him, you know, because you don't want Homelander to just

498
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:26,519
outright kill him. No, but
in a way where I think, like

499
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:32,160
tell him that, but Ryan maybe
doesn't share that with Homelander, in a

500
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,640
way where it's okay, you got
to keep this close to the vest because

501
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,359
there's stuff that's going on, or
even like does he know the like I

502
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,119
would hope not, because, like, as I say, does he know

503
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,920
truth that Homelander like raped his mom
or in order to get him? But

504
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,440
I feel like if he does know
that, I wouldn't be down for him

505
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:52,599
sticking around again. I still don't
really understand why again a minor writing flaw

506
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,640
in the middle of the season where
Ryan right now is acting the same way

507
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,920
he was in the star of the
show. But we had those like two

508
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,640
episodes where he was back completely with
Homelander, and it was odd where he

509
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,359
was like when they're like making fun
of the guy and asking the guy that

510
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,039
to kneel and apologize to that girl. Remember that episode? I do?

511
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:12,400
Yeah, So yeah, I feel
it's just weird that he rejected Homelander here

512
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:17,119
again and vought again. So I
feel like we didn't need those middle episodes

513
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,279
of him kind of being like a
prick again. It felt like we were

514
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:22,079
going that way and they just did
to try and swerve us, but we

515
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,359
still got the same end result.
But I'm curious because again Homelander did not

516
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,119
look happy with seeing this on the
TV, So I I don't know.

517
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240
I don't think he's gonna kill Ryan. I think that would happen in like

518
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:38,759
a combat situation. But yeah,
I really I don't know what he's gonna

519
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,160
do to respond here. I don't
know if he's gonna try and kill the

520
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,839
boys again, if he's gonna try
and kill because he kills Bum. I

521
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,640
don't know if he's gonna try and
kill Butcher, which was pretty much dead

522
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,359
anyway. So I really don't know
what's gonna happen next week with those two.

523
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,960
Yeah, I couldn't tell you.
It's gonna It's gonna be interesting again,

524
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,880
whatever his secret is. That's that's
what I'm curious about. But maybe

525
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,480
he'll run off and go try and
find Butcher. I guess Butcher's incapacitated right

526
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,640
now and is gonna go to the
hospital, So yeah, maybe Ryan will

527
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,920
go there. It's it's hard to
sing, that's what I laugh, Like,

528
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,759
I'm gonna jump it all over.
But I just didn't have this my

529
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:15,839
notes. I don't want to forget
it when h M M. Last week

530
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,640
he fainted, right, and then
this week he uses as a reason why

531
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,039
he can't be cut out for this
he has to spend time with his family.

532
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:24,759
Doesn't know much. He's caught when
he's like, all right, Butcher,

533
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,799
you're back in the lead, and
I get the family angle. But

534
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,000
when he's trying to say like,
oh, I can't lead the team because

535
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,039
I feigned I might not have the
health, it's like, well, Butcher

536
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680
is also not the guy to lead
the team too, because like he could

537
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,960
be dead in fucking hours. Like
I actually felt like he was gonna get

538
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,759
to Huie there and he didn't,
and he gave it back to Butcher.

539
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,200
So I thought that was odd for
him to be like, yeah, I'm

540
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,680
really unhealthy, but here's your new
leader again, Butcher, who is,

541
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:55,480
like I would say, like easily
more unhealthy than whatever MM might be dealing

542
00:32:55,559 --> 00:33:01,200
with. Right, So yeah,
I don't know. Let's see Butcher not

543
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,200
much in this episode. Really,
he cutdated them on the plan as far

544
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,799
as he got Newman's husband and cut
his leg off, and they're working on

545
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,359
a new cocktail because the old one
was maybe too strong. And that's what

546
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,119
I did. Like when they're like
that's Genni's like, yeah, you kill

547
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,480
them all and he's like yeah,
and that's why I'm here telling you about

548
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,000
it, like he I think he's
like trying his best to show like,

549
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:23,920
hey, he did discover this would
kill everybody, but he went the extra

550
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,880
mile to go tell them all right, he didn't. Just so again you've

551
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400
seen from the whole season, all
the shows, but specific last season,

552
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:35,000
that's a character that, Okay,
he has changed. Maybe the old Butcher

553
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,960
would have done that, but uh, he's ignoring the Yeah, he's ignoring

554
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:42,839
Kessler and all that his hallucinations,
and his ex wife isn't appearing anymore,

555
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,359
it seems, Yeah, which is
odd because especially I guess I was trying

556
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,240
to push him to do some bad
things. So you feel like the angel

557
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,079
on his shoulder might come in,
but we'll get that one more time.

558
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,279
But yeah, I think that was
most of the episode, was him in

559
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:58,200
a situation and then him talking to
the you know thing in his mind,

560
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,720
pretty much, and I like it
for the most part. I think because

561
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,599
I like Jeffer Deine Morgan, I
enjoyed. Maybe if it was another actor

562
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,519
I wouldn't, but uh, I'm
enjoying them so far. In this episode

563
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,639
end with him collapsing, so again, I don't. I really don't think

564
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,519
they're gonna kill him before season five. I think that would be a great

565
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,599
miss a great mistake. But uh, they won't do it. They'll keep

566
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:21,079
him. Well, he's gonna be
hanging in on a thread, I hope.

567
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,519
So we have to see what his
superpower is right that, because he

568
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:28,679
was taunting He's like Kessler like,
do the Ezekiel things? So I think

569
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,360
we're gonna get an answer to that, and uh maybe against home Lander,

570
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,400
he's oh, because he took the
V and everything. No, well,

571
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,519
remember in the office when black Nor
was kicking his ass and Starlight was there

572
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:44,239
with the Deep and he's just he's
on the ground. He's like, uh,

573
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,039
Kessler, like, what have you
did with Ezekiel? Do it now?

574
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,039
And he calls Kessler out later like
why didn't you answer me when I

575
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:52,960
called out? And he's like the
silence works. Sound treatment works both ways,

576
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,880
and even Starlight was asking him,
like, who's Kessler? Why are

577
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,639
you calling out to him when we're
fighting the black nor in the deep?

578
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:01,159
So what does that have to do? But you're having a power though,

579
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:07,039
because I think he associates that Kessler
has somehow been able to help him get

580
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:12,599
out of that Ezekiel situation. Okay, yeah, right, because we talked

581
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,360
about that with that cabin and who
would help them out there? So okay,

582
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,400
maybe I could maybe buy it,
So yeah, we'll see. And

583
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:27,079
then not much here his wife kissed
him, says he wants or back in

584
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,280
him to be a family a game, but just has to leave. But

585
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,719
classic MM can't leave because he's got
to say or help the boys. To

586
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,599
me, this was just like I
was fine at this. This like was

587
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,079
to give something for MM to do. But I like this more than what

588
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,519
they give Comico and Frenchy sometimes.
So I enjoyed it, and I hope

589
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,760
this is a character that does make
it all alive. I hope it's not

590
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,599
a guy. It's just a question
that he has to be a part of

591
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,760
the Boys the rest of his life, you know, or die. Like

592
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,320
I want him to be with his
wife and his daughter, especially after they

593
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,760
were with that idiot guy for a
while, the major like Homelander supporter that

594
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,000
ended up being killed. Anyways,
But do you think Emma can make it

595
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:07,559
out of the show live? Uh? Oh, don't like that. I

596
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,920
hope he does. I hope he
does. I don't think French she's gonna

597
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,599
make it. I kimical. I
thought was toast this episode. I really

598
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:20,360
did. I thought ys for amplifying. But I hope emmm does. I

599
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,679
think he deserves it. But in
the boys classic faction like fashion, I

600
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,199
could see them just I could see
them killing everyone, to be honest,

601
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,880
Yeah, surprisingly unsurprisingly, but I
hope he survives because yes, his family's

602
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,480
gone to what Belize? I think
it was Belize. Yeah, he was

603
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,639
supposed to go there, but he
luckily came back and helped out a train.

604
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:45,239
So who a train again? Interesting
situation Ashley last week was very interesting,

605
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,920
just having the actress like good on
her for selling it, just like

606
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:52,679
lines like oh the swamp down there
like that stuff like like it's a good

607
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,639
honor for selling all that. But
yeah, this character again, she's not

608
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,920
like I don't know if we did
a top ten of the boy should even

609
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,320
be up there. But she's all
that was a minor interesting character where and

610
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,679
kind of a sad character. Last
couple episodes ago, she's trying to get

611
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,039
out of there and then that one
you know, assistant got killed, so

612
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:13,960
she shred her resume, didn't go
to Disney. Here, she gives a

613
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:16,679
tray the pitch, which where he's
like kind of like thrown it back.

614
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,599
He's like no, She's like,
no, not the fuck, just like

615
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,159
just so we can get out of
here, like let's just go. So

616
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,920
I do like that they established because
at one point she like not fell in

617
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,039
his arms, but like it was
leaning on and touching his chest. I

618
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,079
was like, oh, no,
what are they doing here? But I

619
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,960
like that. It's more they're kind
of friends by default as far as they're

620
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,880
both in the shit. We need
somebody, So I like the es STAPs.

621
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,519
Okay, it's not a love thing, it's a friendship thing. But

622
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,920
then she had the idea to just
get out of there, but when a

623
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,599
Trian present with the idea, she
check it out and just couldn't go through

624
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,639
with it. And it sucks because
I do you know, she's not like

625
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,400
a perfect person, but she's also
better than a lot of the other characters.

626
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,800
Like, as far as it's morally
wise. She did help out a

627
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,239
tray this season. As we said
last season she helped me escape and fake

628
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,599
her death, so there is a
good person in there. I really worry,

629
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,719
Like, I honestly think she could
die next week. I think she

630
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,360
could be a cashual. It's tough. She could wait. She lasts a

631
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960
whole time and going to a gen
V show and stuff, and I hope

632
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,599
she does. I think this character
is really good and I enjoy her playing

633
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:22,480
it. But at the same time, I could just see them I don't

634
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:27,760
know, opening up or like just
middle next week's episode and Homelander having an

635
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,840
issue and then killing her, you
know, like she's just spend She's expendable

636
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,119
that way. But I thought it
was, like I said, I think

637
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,639
a good job by the actress and
the one that plays a train as well.

638
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,840
I thought it was heartbreaking that she
has this chance to go, but

639
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,679
she won't go because she's just too
scared about if she gets caught. I'm

640
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,280
presuming and you know obviously would die, so uh because she's not a soup.

641
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,480
So yeah, I hope she somehow
makes it out of all this.

642
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,239
But I don't know what's your read
on Ashley so far. I hope that

643
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,199
she kind of does make it out
of this because yeah, she's God,

644
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
she's super super stressed, full of
anxiety, and I like that she's been

645
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:07,960
turning over to like a new leaf. Well, people might contest it and

646
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:09,880
say, well, what about all
that ship with tech NYA and the dungeon

647
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,920
and all that. Well, she
was not there to like kill anyone.

648
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,199
She was Oh yeah, she was
having a good time. Yeah, they

649
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,440
weren't trying to kill web Weaver.
They thought he was all complicent. It

650
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,280
wasn't. And fuck, I guess
that's a really tough like couple days for

651
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,360
Hugh. His sex life is going
to be all over the map. He

652
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,199
kind of gets like assaulted by people
that they think, you know, he's

653
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,960
for but he's not. And now
he gets sex with a different person.

654
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,440
That's that's a tough His dad's dead. His dad's dead. That's a tough

655
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,880
pill to swallow. So yeah,
so we'll see about Ashley. We'll think,

656
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,679
do you But so you say you
want to do you think I'm I'm

657
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,880
going with that. She's gonna die
and die, I gonna fin Yeah,

658
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,239
I think Homelander is gonna pop pop
off and execute her. I don't know

659
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,760
why he hasn't yet she annoys the
ship out of him. He's just preventing

660
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,119
not even say anymore. Yeah,
I guess he needs it for times like

661
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:06,360
this where he got rid of stage. Now he has no one right so

662
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,440
actually can just slide back in and
she'll have like new members of the Seven

663
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:14,920
and that he could join or asked
to join, because what it's him Firecrackadoor

664
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:19,920
and the Deep. So they're down
by three members. So and the obviously

665
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,559
they can't get out. I'm hoping
that it does. So that hurts this

666
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:29,079
kind of stance even more. And
we'll see, Yeah, can he go

667
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,320
in French sheet, I'll talk about
them, because, as I said before

668
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,599
the first half the season, I
didn't have much interest in the whole I've

669
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,360
done a lot of mistakes. I'm
a bad person. I should go to

670
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,039
prison. And they did that.
Okay, he made loves to the guy

671
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,119
he liked. Okay, that's all
cool. And then they need French chief

672
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,960
for this poison which they found.
They figured out way where they could at

673
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,199
least kill Newman with it and other
mutants or soups, but not for sure.

674
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,159
On Homelander and it's like a safer
one. Kamiko got hit with it

675
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,400
this episode and got hit the Doctor
Gordon treatment of needing to cut off that

676
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:05,519
leg before the before the blood.
Now I can't remember her character. She

677
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,920
got a heel of back like Deadpoolers
her legs. Yeah, she can regenerate.

678
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:12,119
Yes, that's what I thought too. That's okay, this leg's going

679
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,840
way too easy here. But yeah, like I said to me, it's

680
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,440
like they built up this whole thing. He's feeling guilty, he turns himself

681
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:23,679
in and two episodes later for a
Butcher, I think it was Butcher that

682
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,119
just said, oh yeah, or
we got him back. I had Malloy

683
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,800
pull some favors and it's just like
for and I didn't love the storyline,

684
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,599
but at least I got there doing
of Okay, guilty man wants to tone

685
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,480
for his sins, so they do
this whole Like you said, I think

686
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:43,719
hurt watching later on where they do
this whole thing to get this in motion

687
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,599
and he's just off Scott free again. He was in prison, he turned

688
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,800
himself in, and I's like,
oh, he's part of the boys and

689
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
him Comico have like a pow wow
they're smiling and laughing because she tells her

690
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:57,239
story, which I thought was good
enough, a good little origin there,

691
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,559
but no way where I think it's
gonna be. I don't know. It's

692
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,880
what do you think about this?
I need some water. That's why I

693
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,760
just think that it's the way that
he got out of prison. It was

694
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,079
just such an easy, like a
cop out of a of a situation.

695
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,840
It feels like it was all for
nothing, really, like that whole story

696
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,320
about him feeling like those the flashbacks, the dream sequences. It's just like

697
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,519
you said it will affect on Rewatch, It's like, well, it just

698
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,480
he goes jail on nothing, and
it doesn't even sound like he's going back.

699
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:30,320
It's not like, Kay, your
help was that then you go back?

700
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,960
It just sounds like he's like out. So it's just like it just

701
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,800
feels like a waste of time.
Yeah, no, I I agree.

702
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,239
It's it's unfortunate because I would have
liked to have seen kind of how it

703
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,039
progresses, and it was just wrapped
up in this episode where like Kimmicko shares

704
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,760
her origins a little bit, and
how you both have to live with this

705
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:51,159
and they both can be there for
each other, not alone, and we

706
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,239
had a I think at least two
episodes of French. She just wasn't present.

707
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,440
He was just in jail, chemicals, just showing up at the police

708
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,599
station. Doesn't want to be he
doesn't want to be seen. So yeah,

709
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,519
I just think it was was a
little bit rushed and it wasn't necessarily

710
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:06,519
needed that as far as storylines go. It was definitely the filler storylines for

711
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:08,360
these episodes to kind of do things
along. I like, I do like

712
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,840
Frenchie. He's He's one of my
favorite characters. I just think he's I

713
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,159
like his his spirit and seeing him
down the dumps definitely was was hard and

714
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,079
rough. But I'm glad that he's
back. I'm glad he's working with the

715
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:23,840
team, and I hope he makes
it through. I think he doesn't.

716
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:28,119
I think he I know in season
five, I think that's as he'll have

717
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:30,519
his journey there. We can go
to jail. But yeah, like I

718
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,880
said, I think it's for me
with what they gave us, and if

719
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,639
he does die in season five,
but they gave us in season four,

720
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,840
I think he should have died like
midway with a sacrifice play, and that's

721
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,079
the route you go and then Kumiko
has something to do because she's very hurt

722
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,199
and alone and everything. So it's
kind of like the Nick Fury thing where

723
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,920
I think, to me, I
think they m you should kill off Nick

724
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Fury a while back ago, and
now it's like, if you do it,

725
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,119
it's like and French, she's not
exactly in the situation. I was

726
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:57,840
gonna say Nick Fury kill Now it's
okay, cool, who cares? But

727
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:01,239
that's I don't feel that way exactly
about friendship. But this whole switcheroo did

728
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,639
make me feel like, Okay,
there's less stakes with his character because things

729
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:07,920
can just happen if Butcher puts in
a call, you know, yeah,

730
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:14,760
is there anybuddy or anything we haven't
talked about yet that we you know,

731
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,519
Hugh. We asked Victoria to kind
of for a truce, and she just

732
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:21,000
can't do it. She feels like, I guess they're too far along so

733
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480
and she might have had this plan
already, So that sucks. I thought

734
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:28,960
I thought it might work, but
it didn't. So yeah, that's uh,

735
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,239
it was worth a try, and
she's very sincere with him and all

736
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,840
that. But it'll be interesting to
see because he was threatening her, but

737
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,599
not threatening her because he does care
about her as well. And now with

738
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,199
this information, if it does get
leaked, it's just I don't think it

739
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,559
is going to get leaked. I
think it's just gonna be well Homelander doesn't

740
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,400
know about a lot of this stuff
with the plan, So Sage was the

741
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,639
one working with the shooter the changer, and the changer has the laptop.

742
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,920
So is this going to give Sage
still more control? Like it, Yeah,

743
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:01,280
you just need to see how Sage
kind of works her way back in

744
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,280
there and that I mean, that's
a golden ticket. If Sage goes up

745
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,199
to Home Lind and says, hey, I got all the information on Newman's

746
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:13,039
so we can force her to do
whatever we want to control her. Or

747
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,000
if it's not Sage, and I, like I said, if it's Newman,

748
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,679
I wonder if there's a routework stage. I don't think joins the Boys

749
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,440
would help someone's like a screw YouTube
Homeland or because he got super just like

750
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:27,000
go back to your hut and your
dumb and everything like that, so she

751
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,679
could be a scorn person. It's
like, you know what I'm gonna I'm

752
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,199
gonna mess this guy up. And
I'm gonna help out the other side,

753
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,079
and she'd be good to have on
the other side, you know. So

754
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,800
yeah, is there anything else we
haven't talked about character or storyline wise?

755
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,719
Hmmm, I can't think of anything. I think we hit all our notes.

756
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,199
Yeah, I think so too.
So Yeah, next week's gonna be

757
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,800
interesting. We'll see. I think
it'll be a big finale, and I

758
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,480
really think that other seasons have had
it, but I just feel like we're

759
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,320
gonna do on like a big cliffhanger
next week, that one of those of

760
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,920
like, fuck, I need the
next episode right down that like, okay,

761
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,840
the dust settles. I feel like
it's gonna be a lah almost something

762
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,320
what did happen last year with him
shooting somebody meeting Homelander, but on a

763
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,679
bigger scale. We'll see, because
he's just in back doing a lot of

764
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,199
things and people around him keep failing, and I feel like that's gonna eventually

765
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,760
snap, and then whatever conversation is
with Ryan, that could be another breaking

766
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,760
point for him too next week.
Like I think, I think for me

767
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,719
for season five, as much as
I love Anthony starting Homelander, I don't

768
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:28,000
maybe it does have to be the
whole season, But I do just want

769
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,159
to see Homelanders just fucking pop off
and finally just snap snap, and not

770
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,000
really hold back at all, you
know, and then become this massive threat

771
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,159
that he should be, not just
kind of this thing that they try to

772
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,039
take out and then it doesn't work
out and they go back to square one.

773
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:43,199
I want to be like when people
complain about Man of Steel and the

774
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,880
city's turned down there, like that's
what I want. Uh, you know,

775
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,599
I don't want an Instance to die. Of course, I'm saying just

776
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:52,239
for the just for the story wise, I kind of want him to make

777
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,559
that turn. But yeah, yeah, well we'll see. We will be

778
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:01,480
back next week for the finale of
season four and hopefully it should be a

779
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,119
good one, and promise you it
will not be boring in the day