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This is Later with Lee Matthews,
The Lee Matthews Podcast. More of what

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you hear weekday afternoons on the Drive. You hear him on the Midday Show

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with his partner Buck Sexton. Clay
Travis is joining us his new book,

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American Playbook, A Guide to Winning
Back the Country from the Democrats. Clay

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Travis, great to have you along. Hey, appreciate y'all having me fired

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up and excited for college football season. I'm sure there's a lot of people

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out there that are the same way, feel the same way as I do.

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But but yeah, look, that's
that's kind of the concept of my

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book, American Playbook, which is
using football in particular as a roadmap for

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how to build back. I would
say a winning coalition as a part of

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twenty four would you say the Republican
and Democrat parties are as fluid as say

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the Big twelve and the SEC lately, That's a good that's a good analogy.

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I would say that Oklahoma is actually
a perfect distillation of what I'm trying

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to do in this book, by
which I mean, if you look at

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what the Sooners and the Cowboys have
done, they've embraced a brand new version

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of college football that certainly has swept
across the entire country, But where did

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it come from high school football?
And where did the spread in general arise

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from. It came out of the
fact that there's really unequal talent in high

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school football, and you have to
try to figure out a way to equalize

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and or take advantage of what your
opponent does. And that's really the entire

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essence of my American Playbook. Overall
overarching scheme is to create a new dynamic,

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that a new paradigm, if you
will, that will lead to a

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landslide victory. I feel like,
guys, I've just I've watched so much

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over the twenty first century in politics, and it's like each party is committed

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to trying to win by a field
goal in the final play of the game.

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And I just don't get it.
Why would you not create a game

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plan that's designed to kick the ass
of your opponent as opposed to hope that

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at the last second you can snag
a victory. So that's the entire essence

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of this book. Well, and
Democrats seem to be trying to change the

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rules all the time. I mean, you'd swear it was the NFL.

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Yeah, well, they've also won
seven of the last eight elections on the

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popular vote. And usually, and
this is where I think the high school

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football analogy is so pertinent. Usually
the team that is losing is the one

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that goes back and says, Okay, we have to come up with a

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new playbook. And we know what
the Democrats are going to run, and

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there's a real advance to knowing what
your opponent is going to do. They're

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cocky, they expect to continue to
win. The Republicans have the opportunity,

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if they are smart and strategic,
to put in place not only a new

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system, but a new system that's
guaranteed to absolutely smoke the Democrats in a

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head to head battle. Clay Travis
with us, you know, I'm from

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Midday is
on this station, and you do offer

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some steps one, two, three
for what Republicans need to do. Yeah,

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there's no doubt. And I would
say some people say, okay,

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give me one example that kind of
distills where we are as a country.

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And I think sports a perfect analogy
in this respect. I would have never

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believed if you had told me that
we were going to have men winning women's

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competitions in athletics and men being named
woman of the Year, and overwhelmingly white,

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Black, Asian and Hispanic voters.
Men in particular, but also a

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lot of women see this and say
this is unacceptable, and biology is real.

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Men are bigger, stronger, and
faster than women. And the fact

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that think about this for a moment, every Democrat in the House and every

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Democrat in the Senate refuse to say
that you should compete against your biological sex

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in sports. And that's a bridge
too far for almost everyone, and it,

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to me is representative of the world
that democrats have created, where everyone

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is required to say things that they
know to be untrue. And so I

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spend a lot of time using that
particular aspect as an analogy and a jumping

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off point to demonstrate how outside the
mainstream political spectrum Democrat perspectives have truly become,

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and using all of those perspectives as
an opportunity not just to attack the

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absurdity of those positions, but to
put yourself in a position where you can

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help to fight back against them by
leading to a landslide election. You know,

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everybody's talking about Devin Archer and the
revelations of the Briden crime family.

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Ultimately, we're not going to get
satisfaction I don't believe from the criminal justice

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system. It has to come in
the ballot box, and it has to

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come next year in the presumption that
Biden or whoever the Democrats put forward,

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we have to take back the country
and kick the Democrat ass next year.

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Now I agree with you on that
aspect, because it's going to drag out

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so long that Biden's either going to
be dead or so incomprehensible. Oh,

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I got Alzheimer's. I don't know
what I was doing. I don't know

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what I was saying. And then
the accusation would be, how dare you

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persecute this poor feeble man. But
that's what I mean by Democrats changing the

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rules of that and the gender argument, you just meant. It meant Democrats

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have a way of using these pop
culture and social issues to change the rules,

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no doubt. And that's where I
really firmly believe there are lots of

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persuadable voters out there who just don't
know the truth. People are busy.

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I've got three kids. I'm down
in Atlanta right now. I'm taking my

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kids to go to Atlanta Braves games
before school gets back in session. And

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I understand the challenges that being apparent
reflects. And I do believe though,

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that we can persuade those voters.
But we have to fight hard, and

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we have to cut through, and
we have to reach the addressable audience.

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Because look, half of Democrat voters, over half still believe the Hunter Biden

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laptop was Russian disinformation. Well,
if over half of their voters still believe

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in Russian disinformation, probably the other
half are just so committed to the ideology

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that they don't really care. But
half of them think that that laptop's real,

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Well, that's several steps removed.
We've got to convince him, make

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them see the truth in order to
even understand how complicit in criminal behavior the

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Biden crime family really is. But
first we've got to convince them of the

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baseline truths, which are Hunter Biden's
laptop was real. There's a bevy of

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felonies associated with that, and they
are trying to cover up all of those

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felonies and prevent him from being held
accountable under justice because his father is going

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to protect him. We're talking to
Clay Travis, you know him from Clay

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Travis and Buck Sexton heard Weekdays mid
Days here on this station. American Playbook,

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A Guide to Winning back the Country
from Democrats. This is going to

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be I think one of the more
interesting election seasons we've seen, maybe since

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the Civil War. And I say
that because everybody thought that the election was

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going to be suspended during the Civil
War, be because of the Civil War.

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But I'm not saying that we are
in the midst of a civil war

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now. But I am saying there's
even Democrats are questioning the cognitive abilities of

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Biden. Yeah, he can't do
the job. And it's not just it's

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both physical and mental, which is
a bad combination. I mean, I've

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made this analogy. I run a
site called OutKick, which is doing really

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well because we basically speak sanity in
an insane world every day and obviously a

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lot of what we talk about as
a world of sports. There's not a

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single job that Joe Biden could do
at OutKick, And I bet for everybody

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out there listening right now, if
you run a business, what jobs could

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Joe Biden do at your business?
Would you trust Joe Biden, for instance,

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to run a gas station? I
would not. I don't think Joe

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Biden could run a gas station.
Right now, If we don't think he

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could run a gas station, how
in the world are we allowing him to

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run the country. And a lot
of people out there can say, well,

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it's not really Joe Biden, and
I understand it. But he is

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the head of the Democrat Party and
he is ostensibly the fine old decider in

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chief. The guy couldn't run a
gas station, and he's trying to run

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the biggest economy in the world.
It's a failed experiment. It was frankly

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reckless to run Joe Biden in the
first place in twenty twenty. But go

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back and look at Joe Biden in
two nineteen and two twenty, even during

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that presidential campaign, and look at
how much worse he is speaking today.

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He's deteriorating rapidly, and that is
having a major consequential impact not only in

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the United States, but in our
relationships with every country around the world.

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I wouldn't have him run a toll
booth for the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority. Clay

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Travis of Clay and Buck, Yeah, thank you for joining us. We

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look forward to this great read this
summer American Playbook, A guide to winning

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back the country from the Democrats,
and look forward to you and Buck's next

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show. Thanks for having me,
Lee, I really appreciate it. Thanks

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