Hello, and welcome to episode forty two of Game Spot after Dark, Game
Spot's official video game podcast. I'm your host, Jake Decker, and joining
me this week is Lucy James, Hello, Callie plaguey Hi, and Tamore
who's sang Hello there. How are y'all doing good? You know, let
me out, let me out. We've had a fair share of technical difficulties
getting this going, but we are here and we are now going. Hell
yeah, it's been it's been like a week of tech difficulties. But you
know what, I'm just thankful that Oh no, it's fixable. It's not
the end of the world. If we biff something, well, it might
be close to the end of the world, but fact rip anyway, that's
a way to start a podcast. Sorry. Wow, absolutely brought it down
by talking about the saying that we are we might be close to the end
of the world, but in way, anyway, let's talk about video games.
Kelly, how's that stamp rally gone? It's going. I've seen a
lot of people talking about how the stamp rally is boring and stupid and animal
crossing. I was gonna say we should clarify animal crossing. Stamp rally started
Monday, correct, Yes, for International Museum Day, and like with the
other events in New Horizons, they span more than just the day. I
like the stamp Rally, like like it's definitely for kids, right, It's
it's not like a super involved event. I thought may Day was really clever
because May Day was like a puzzle that you could solve the stamp rally for
International Museum Days just going through the exhibits and collecting stamps. But it is
very jap knees. It reminds me so much doing touristy things in Japan,
and like I tweeted that, like when I was in Japan last year at
the Tokyo Skytree, there was this like special Barbie exhibit and there were stamps.
There was like a stamp thing and stamp stations for the Barbie exhibit.
We've lost ham just keep going. If that happens, I think it's discord
not anything on my end, like it just froze for a second. But
yeah, so I thought it was like a cute way to celebrate International Museum
Day and get you to go through your museum if you hadn't in a while.
And I had it and I was able to go through and be like,
Okay, there's two fossils I'm missing. Oh, I didn't realize i'd
put fish in that tank. I like, the last time I was in
here, there were no fish in that tank. So I thought it was
a cute, cute, a little event. I mean, not every event
has to be Bunny Day where it takes over your whole life. So yeah,
I want to check it out. I haven't done it yet. I've
been hard at work playing other things currently, but it seems it seems neat
like it seems like a fun little thing to do, especially like I feel
like people are still playing Animal Crossing anyway, and it seems just like a
nice diversion to head in there, check things out, maybe learn a thing
or two learning in my video games. No, I feel bad because,
like I see all the tweets a buy, but I've fully fallen off Animal
Crossing now. I think it's because I'm spending so much time playing Persona.
It's like you get one game to donate all my time too. I'm not
very good at going between two, but I like the I'm still people are
making incredible things in it and bringing it and I enjoy seeing them on my
timeline and videos and stuff. But like I didn't even know Museum Day was
going on because I've just been I'm just out of it now. Yeah,
I feel like they probably isn't enough to bring people back in, and to
be honest, like I'm kind of like you. Right now, I'm playing
a JRPG, so I don't really have time to play Animal Crossing, but
I'm kind of waiting for the next big update, I guess. Yeah,
yeah, I mean the prizes aren't super exciting, but the nice thing is
you can get multiple because the stamp stations change every day, so like I
could collect multiple and like give them to friends who weren't playing or whatever.
But I mean, I don't know. I played New Leaf every day for
like a year and a half, and I played I played Wild World every
day for at least two years. So I really like Animal Crossing it as
part of my lifestyle. Yeah, so I will just continue. I will
continue to play Animal Crossing every single day and check the store, check my
turn of prices and do all of that stuff. And it is hard because
there are other games that I now I just want to play but need to
play, so but I you know, I'm putting a lot of time into
terrorforming now, so that's fine. How about you. It's more it sounds
like you're doing some exercise. Yeah, I was kinda like I put ring
fit in there. But I just want to say that game is ingenious,
Like it's every time I play, I'm like, this is a unbelievable application
of gaming into exercise. It's so good. It's the best they've any I
think anyone has ever melded those two things together. So I played a bit
of that. I downloaded ac Origins because Jordan from our editorial team tweeted that
you could get some DLC The Curse of the Pharaoh's Tomb or something like that,
and it basically makes you makes your hit and blade and headshots with arrows
one hit kills, which is how I prefer to play, like I like
the old hit and blade where you'd insta kills. So I was like,
all right, I'm going to do that. So I haven't actually started doing
that. Honestly, I'm mostly playing Persona. I'm playing. I'm fifty five
hours sixty hours into it now. That's my main thing that I'm currently playing,
and I'm really loving it. But I also kind of want to get
through it so I can start my Yakuso replay, which I'm very excited for.
I started like dipping into Yo because of Zero from the Middle again.
I was like, you know what, I'm just going to start all over
again and do the entire series. So that's my plan. And I'm watching
Jake play blood Born Jake and Matt Paget. That's my main form of gaming
now, Yeah, mostly Matt playing, but I've been playing alongside him just
to see what's ahead of him. But he's about to face off against the
final boss. But I guess I'll just transition what I've been doing. But
I finally did Old Hunters DLC, which I got right when it came out.
I played blood Borne a ton when it came out, which I think
I've said on the podcast, but for some reason, I just never went
back for Old Hunters. Finally did it, and man, am I mad
at myself. I waited this long because it is good. Some of the
I think some of my favorite bosses in the game are in that DLC.
The only one I don't like, which I don't think it's surprising, Like
I don't really think you're supposed to like the boss named the Living Failures,
which is a great name, but like all of them were so good.
I I was super stoked because I beat the final boss I almost beat in
my first try, the Orphan of Costs, yeah, which I mean that
was kind of fluke because I almost beating my first trine. Then he kicked
my ask a couple of times. But man, I think that's generally how
it's supposed to go. Like I my first time, we've often enough,
cause I almost beat him. I was like, oh and then just he
turns on. It turns on, and it's like, oh, okay,
you were just lulling me into a full sense of security. But it's that
that is probably well. I don't want to I don't want to say who
the middle? How far are you into it? Lucy God, I haven't
played it in over two months? What was it was the last boss you
for? I think it was Ludwig beat Lovely Okay, the boss after that,
which I won't ruin in the in the town and I know who it
is, okay, yeah, yeah, it's the Lady, Yeah, Lady
Maria. The Lady Maria. Boss fight is like one of my favorites in
that Hole's game and it's basically the foundation for Securo, Like that entire game
is that was them figuring out Securo in that DLC. I definitely got that
impression fighting her. It's like, well, this is this is a secural
boss, Like I need to get ready to block encounter. Yeah, but
obviously I'm just dodging. That's what I love about from software games, like
if you pay attention to the game that you're playing made by them, you
can probably find the seed of the next game in there. And for me,
the one that I think that has been the seed for the next game
coming is Castle Canehurst and Eldon Ring. I think those two are going to
be connected where it's just far off, you know, area that you go
into that feels completely different from the rest of the game and it's almost like
stylistically distinct. I think that's going to be where Olden Ring is, where
you're just going from kingdom to kingdom and getting these mythical artifacts to do this
one thing. But everyone is going to feel different, like one I'll feel
like Securo, one I'll feel like Dark Soil, the one I'll feel like
blood Born. Yeah. I wonder if not to get to off topic here,
but I wonder if they'll kind of incorporate the play styles of Dark Souls,
Securo, and blood Born into like building your class, because like Dark
Souls definitely lean pretty heavy into what kind of class you want to do,
and even blood Born did that to some extent, but then Securo was very
much like this is how you're going to play this game. But I'm curious
if elden Ring will kind of embrace these different styles in terms of what class
you decide to play, if that's even a thing, or if they're just
going to go down like this is how you should be playing this game,
which I don't think based on that teaser and the rumors, what is like,
what's the what was the big rumor from last year about the horses.
Oh yeah, yeah, you're gonna be riding horses. I know about em.
I'd love to ride around that world on Ludwig the Horse. I'm really
wanting to finish Securo. I want to go back to it. Yes to
The last thing I did was Blazing Bull and I had a bad time.
It was really rap. But I've been I've been watching this Uh it's not
Japanese, but I've been watching a Korean show on Netflix and it's a it's
the same around the same time period as Securos when it's set. So I've
been I've been titching to play like a historical game. It's called Kingdom and
it's like in Korean take on Western zombie fiction. But I don't really like
the zombie stuff. They're kind of like fast zombies, and I'm kind of
like now and Fast zombies. They're like twenty eight days later zombies. But
the political intrigue in the Just and Eric Korea is really interesting. What you're
watching it on? Where is it? It's on Netflix? Oh, because
I remember starting it, but that was in the UK, so I don't
know if it was so. Yeah, I was gonna say, did you
ever watch Empresses in the Palace? A Chinese historical drama that took over for
a month me Sarah who used to work in our UK office, and I
became obsessed with Empresses in the Palace because it's basically just like historical bitches.
Got very into but I never finished it because but like it's very good.
For a while it was all about concubines and you know, speaking of historical
bitches and Concubines. You should definitely watch The Handmaiden. I have so good
So I saw that in the UK, they do a thing called Secret Cinema
where you basically it's an interactive theater thing and there are loads of actors and
actresses and for The Handmaiden one you have to us up and it's all themed.
All the guests you're not allowed to speak, so you you sat down
and had dinner together and everyone just had to bring a pad of paper and
was just completely silent. Then they show the film and then they re enact
some of the scenes, and they re enacted some of the scenes. I
saw some nude people on that stage. It's very good anyway, that that
movie is really good. But I know exactly the sene you're talking about,
which I did not expect to see. That was very good. Anyway,
that was the four in cinema break. I mean, if you want to
say, go into what I've been doing, it actually kind of flows very
well. I've been watching historical bitches. I've been watching The Great Mom wanted
to watch that's so good. Yes, did you watch The Favorite? Yeah,
so it's one of the it's the guy who co wrote The Favorite and
it's all about Catherine the Great. Is there less vomit in the show than
in the Favorite? Episode four? You're not going to have a good time
this vomitings. I'm just picturing like people from that era. But it's that
scene from a Family Guy where everyone drinks that. Yeah, and there's just
vomiting, but it's all like people dressed in royal outfit. That's what the
Favorite felt like to me. I still liked it though. It's very,
very good, very funny. Nicholas Holt it plays Pizza the Emperor and Elfanny
Nicholas Holt of that zombie movie Fame. Oh my god, I forgot he
was in that one. I was going to say from about Thank McCoy.
Hank McCoy and el Fanning plays Catherine. She's incredible, And then I made
myself sad because she's only twenty two, and I was like, how is
she this? Like she's so good in it. Her comedic timing is perfect,
but she also has the poise and grace of sort of like an aristocrat.
And I was like, oh my god, she's twenty two. Her
skin is also unbelievable. But yeah, it's very funny and it's like,
even though it's set in Russia, it's really British, Like they throw the
C word around all the time, which is a brit concubine. What's it
on Hulu? So it's Hulu over here. I don't know if or how
the UK is gonna get it. Probably player, maybe, I hope.
So it's really good. I've been devouring it and I very much recommend that
you watch it. Avatar the Last Amendo is now on Netflix. Yes,
essential viewing for if you are a human on Earth. You need to watch
that show. The best TV show ever made. I love it so much.
Do you want to tell them about our unfortunate slack conversation about Avatar?
Oh my god, I think you should tell them, because you're the problem
with it. I'm the problem messagery the other day, very earnestly, like
you know, when you really want to reckon, you know, when you
know someone's going to love something and you just what you want them to,
like to just receive your earnest recommendation properly, because you're like, I know
this person, I know for a fact that they're gonna watch this and they're
gonna it's gonna change their life and they're gonna love it. So I sent
Lucy a message and that's where the story begins. I'm trying to find it.
I want to see it if it is as bad as I remember,
because I just like completely shout on your dreams from more looking. But yeah,
here, here I go. Avatar came out on Netflix today. You
should check it out. My immediate response was shite mate, and then he
said this is a quiet, humble plea And then I went, oh,
the anime. I thought you meant the two thousand and nine James Cameron.
You probably murdered some more by calling it an So what literally said, christ
my heart it broke. It's true. That's how my mom replies to things
shiite shpe pet ship pet And I accidentally too, and I felt so bad
anyway, Avatars def it is it's a perfect show. Absolutely not even a
perfect It's a perfect thing, like perfect creation, perfect creation. A better
thing could not have been created. And like the thing about it that I
always say to people who haven't watched it is like the first season, you're
you're gonna feel like a little more Nickelodeon, Like there's a little more kid
stuff in it. But God, I like, and a show that ends
so beautifully too. It's one of the few endings that I finished and I
was like, that was perfect. It couldn't have been any better, Like
is Legend of Kara by the Avatar people. Yeah, I didn't like the
first season of Core, but I think it's because I was so attached to
Avatar that I just yeah, it's I watched Avatar. I don't remember a
lot of it. I should probably watch it again now. That's but I
did meet the voice actor for Zuko, and I had no idea. It
did not click until much later. It's like there's someone who helps out.
During E three, she was having a movie showing and I went to I
went to go see it and he was there and I started talking to him
and he's like, oh, yeah, I'm Dante Dante Bosco. And I
didn't even click because he's the producer on her film, and then that Dante
Bosco yeah, and then uh and then I and then I left and Michael
started talking about him and I was like, then, why does that name
sound familiar? I'm like, Oh, I met him, that's why.
And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, so it's
probably good that I didn't know who he was, because then it would have
been like, oh my god, I've seen this. But instead I was
just like, hey, how are you doing? And I think I had
to like drink some whiskey with him or something like that and then just moved
on. I like that show because it's not anime though, shite mate,
mate, Anyways, should we start? Should we move on to the topics
for this week? All right? All right, Call of Duty, Black
Ops? Cold War? Shite mate. I just really wanted to say it
both TAM's gone, that's how that's how much he feels about so what it's
leaked, that's the locale, I guess. I mean, so let's just
while we're waiting for Tim to come back on the surface. The title Black
Ops Cold War like to me, I'm like, the point of the Cold
War is that there weren't like are we doing are we doing espionage? We
didn't stealth like what I Yeah, I imagine it'll be because Black Ops one,
A lot of that took place like in and around the Cold War,
so I imagine it'll be something similar. Yeah, but like I'm curious if
it's going to be like a full on reboot sort of like modern warfare.
But then why would you feel the need to call it cold war I don't
know, it is strange. She's strange. By the way, Tay just
putting video slack is discord down? Oh cool? Well, I don't know
you as being like you're doing cut in half on the video. Really discord
is down in in after dark slap? Holy cow? What an interesting episode?
Should we keep going? Lets this is just one of many technical difficulties.
Seriously, Uh, let me just message time and be like, well,
rejoin if you can keep keep talking about something I'm gonna resent through your
camera, Lucy. Okay, oh no, you are just cutting half.
We're gonna leave it as is. Look, because I'm not gonna be able
to fix it on the fly. Fine, everyone looks. Fine, Well
I can fix it on the fly. I can do this. I can
do this. So Black Ops. I actually played a lot of Black Ops
threes multiplayer for some reason. I still don't know why. It was just
I would come home and play like a couple of matches every night. So,
I mean one was my big one. Because I was at UNI and
also unemployed and also had three contact hours at university, A week, so
I very very quickly prestiged in Black Ops. I'm sure we crossed paths and
Black Ops because I've played a lot of Black Ops too. Yeah Black Ops
one two, Yeah, not too, didn't play one Comma two. Yeah.
Well I guess now we've got Call of Duty colin Black Ops Colin Cold.
I don't if there's a second Colon. I just put it in there
to make a joke about. Yeah, games with with all those fancy sub
titles, subheaders are the bas It's fine. No, I was thinking of
SpongeBot SquarePants Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated or whatever because the full hold on.
I'm gonna get the full title look in because it's really complicated and it pisces
me off. It makes my life hard. SpongeBot square Pants Colon Battle for
Bikini Bottom hyphen Rehydrated. What was the Harry Potter one was? It was
like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows pot won the official video game or something,
and it was alreay similar situation where I was like, there's too much
Grandma in this and then like for my like the way headlines work is only
so many work, like so many characters in the headline actually make it into
the URL and so like you get funky URL's when game names are that long,
and it makes things difficult. I did see the engineers rolled out an
update about that today, though I didn't that week the Weekly Wins email,
and I was like, oh, that's good. Yeah, so good for
you guys, because i didn't even know there was an issue. But I'm
glad it's fix. That's the best kind of issue, one that you don't
know is an issue until it's already fixed. Me like, like, why,
you're brilliant. You both spotted and fixed the problem before I even knew
it was there, so before we just to bring it back to Black Ops
Cold War. I don't know, do you guys have any like hopes for
it? Do you want it to be like a kind of like what they
did with Modern Warfare for Black Ops? Or do we want something completely different?
Like I mean, honestly black Ops in that new engine. Yeah,
I can see it. I'll be into it. Like I think Black Ops
storyline wise was probably my favorite. Just didn't get it was a really weird
mashup. I think the story I'm that game was great. Also, was
that the one that Trent and an Atticus did the score for I feel like
I think so either that one or two is what they didn't scored for,
but that one has a bunch of or that that original one had a bunch
of like top build actors, right like Sam Worthington, who I don't know
what he's doing anymore, but Gary Oldton is in it, right. Have
you seen the video of Gary Oldman on a talk show and he's on there
to talk about call of Duty? No, he doesn't know what it is.
I think he gets his character name wrong. It's like that kind of
something like All Night, but let's rain Fire. That's like, you know,
do you ever have those little kind of like a soundboard in your mind?
Yes, Like TikTok's one of mine. For example, in the morning
is I go get my coffee and every time I come back into my room,
I go meeting time. But it's the exact cadence of the woman in
Futurama who feeds the little heads in the head Museum and she goes fading time.
So that's the kind of shit that I'm working with. But rain Fire,
it's one that is always in my head, always in my head.
I just always have this little thing of Gary oldman screaming rain fire in my
head twenty. I am so glad you put that into words, though,
because I have so many of those, and like we have like family ones
like my like my family will do them, and I'm like, no one
else knows what the hell we're saying. Yepably has their own little like like
weird things that they call things like a yeah, pocock. Like my stepmom
is called judy, but for some reason we call it judy bugs. I
have no idea where bugs came from, which done it for almost years.
A big thing in my family is from chicken run when one of the chickens
says, are those the only choices? Whenever we're presented with two kind of
shit options for something, we all go other those the only choices. So
I don't want to, you know, you just never know. But anyway,
I was definitely more of a modern warfare person than a Black Ops person.
I just was at a weird time in my life in Black Ops three,
I guess. But like I I'm kind of burnt out on call of
duty. Honestly, I wish that call of d D would fully commit to
the things that it's trying to do Like I even felt that way in Black
Ops three, like that storyline is almost about PTSD and then like it just
becomes like surreal and weird, and I'm like, oh, like you all
like you almost got there, almost did it. And I think like there
there is a large population of college of your players that are veterans, and
I think that that's something that would be good to address in a cold game,
if like you're there for the story. So I don't know, I'm
I'm curious. I do like, yeah, I wonder if veterans would even
want it to go that in depth though, you know, because I feel
like a lot of veterans a play. I don't want to generalize, but
I imagine maybe you wouldn't want it to be too vivid. But then it's
weird because Modern Warfare was like we're going to be super realistic. Yeah,
Modern Warfare has I think like the more I mean even like the sound design
is way more realistic. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know.
I just know that my my to be fully like, I'm just gonna
lay it out there. My therapist works with veterans lot, and she will
She's talked about like, how like all of her veteran patients play Call of
Duty. Yeah, because it's like she'll ask me about what I do for
work and stuff, and I'm like video you know, like Pokemon call Call
of Duty, like you know, the big video games. She was like,
oh, yeah, all of my veteran clients. I wonder, I
mean, I wonder if it's a kind of exposure therapy in a way.
Maybe my my dad used to be in a clan like back in the probably
like MW three era that was just like all marines and then my dad.
I don't know how that happened, but for you, yeah, so I
think I don't know. I really I feel strongly about the original Modern Warfare,
Like I think that like really pushed games of that genre in a way
that they hadn't been pushed before. I love the original Modern Warfare even for
all it's like works, and I would love to see Hall of Duty likes
stick to something a little bit better maybe. Yeah. One interesting thing,
so Racivic, I don't know if you guys have heard of him, but
he's a YouTuber. He did a video about Call of Duty. It's really
good. I highly recommend it. But he did a video where he basically
went through all of the Call of Duty games and figured out, like,
what is the gimmick this game? And like, if you look at them,
they have this very interesting, like kind of predictable strategy where they will
do something to death until people hate it and they want something else, and
then they'll switch it up and they'll be like, look, see you are
listening. This is like this cool new thing that people have been wanting.
And then they'll do that to death until people will get mad, and then
they'll go back to the old thing and pretend like it's new. So like
an example of that, right would be Infinite Warfare was the one where people
were like really mad and we're like, we're tired of this. We don't
want futuristics. So then they went back to World War Two and they were
like, look see boots on the ground, Like that's what people want and
Call of Duty and I'm willing to bet like we're gonna have a couple more
Call of Duty games and then people are gonna be like, all right,
well now, like I want to see like Call of Duty in future or
I want and it's just like this cycle that doesn't really end of just like
just like right right, when a mechanic or key system is everyone's tired of
it, they'll retire it and they'll just leave it on the shelf and wait
until it's time to bring it back. Yeah. I mean, maybe I'm
asking too much a call of duty because call of duty is really like an
entertainment product, not like it's not trying to be a statement. I mean
it is kind of like a like I don't know if you guys had that
article about the US Army recruiting people through call of duty tournaments, So there's
that. I mean I always find it weird when they're at like E three
in games calm the Army Army. So there's that aspect of call of duty,
which like we don't have to get into. But like I think the
reason I bring up, like I wish college you would stick to that the
statement is because I think they get like halfway there. I would also love
to see like a really fun, loving, like not grit not super gritty
call of duty. You know. Also, so like like it's not that
collodity has to be really hard hitting and talk about PTSD. It's it's just
that I think they get like halfway or even three quarters of the way there
and then pull back. But also like Call of Duty is more than just
like one person's vision, like it is an entertainment monster. It is the
shameth it is. There's I mean, some of this stuff is just pure
marketing, like like what Jake talked about, like changing changing the mechanics.
Stuff that's a marketing tool rather than like a game design tool. So I
think Collegy is what it is, and you kind of I felt that way
with Modern Warfare. Also, I don't want to speak for two more,
but I know like he and I had different interpretations of that game, and
there's so much I could have talked about, but it's like I can't really
I can't really like dig into like the entire world around Call of Duty when
we're reviewing it. So my feelings, like colle did you're super complicated,
But I am interested to see where they go next, like I always am.
Yeah, I think I've kind of hit the point, like I I
guess I've done a similar thing where I was in the Call Duty then I
burnt out and like I didn't play or get interested into a lot of them,
and then I oh, all right, I've fixed the overlay. Why
why am I the only one that gets booted out when the seven I don't
know, we kept going. We've been going for the past twenty minutes or
seven more. What are your thoughts while I just discord racists? So what
I'm saying, well, I get the overlay fixed to more. What are
your thoughts on call of duty? Black Ops? Cold War? Whoever in
it? You got to say more than that. I'm glad they're going back
to Black Ops. They always did interesting story stuff for Black Ops, and
so I'm hoping that they do more of that again. And not to say
that that. Actually I was going to say modern arfice story it wasn't good,
but like modern office story has a fair show of issues. But I
like the kind of like attempt to do it. I wish I wish people
would just this is that's too spicy to say, I'm going to pull back
on that. Wow. I literally was talking about how the army recruits People's
your call of duty, So you're probably not going to be too spicy.
I mean, the thing I was going to say is I'm sick of people
pussy footing around controversial and political subject matter or like twisting it into some sort
of new story. If you're going to tell the story about, you know,
cults in Far Cry, tell the story about cults in Far Cry.
If you're going to tell the story about war crimes and the Middle East,
don't make the Yeah, make own the ship, Own the history that you're
claiming, Own the history that you're using as a marking beat, like put
it in your story. Yeah, And I mean honestly, like that's why
I'm kind of a little trepidacious about watch Dogs Legion. Yeah, don't ask
about it's it's ridiculous and I don't know how we got here. But like,
Black Black Ops has always done interesting things with story, and if they
can do a kind of like the Numbers Mason style thing within the Cold War,
I'm all for it. But if they're like, oh, we're going
to do a Cold War story that's politically charged and then just do some like
half past half baked version of a Cold War story, I'm not interested in
that. But they also do like cool things with gameplay, and you know,
like the kind of like and they have an interesting I'm excited to see
how it feeds into wars on more than anything because the because the rumor is
that it's going to be announced through war Zone instead of like a major you
know, like a war zone event and like you're doing a fortnight thing of
like, yeah, let's get a concert going to that would make our lives
a harder party in the gulag. Let's go. Also, I just want
to say that today is my dad's birthday, and he took the day I
have to play called duty. So much respect your dad. Yeah, so
it's also your brother's birthday too. What's he doing? It's also my brother
birthday? He's take he has a class. What a flex for your dad
to have a kid on his birthday? I know, right, both of
your parents? What a flex. Anyway, we've spent a lot of time
talking about cold duty, but we should probably move on to the news story
that broke what earlier this week? Sony is set to announce PS five game
lineup very soon. Un entire story. Yeah, that's that's pretty much the
entire story, right two. Yeah, I think the interesting thing is what
do you think is going to be there? All right? Too? Uh?
Blood born too? Don't because you're just gonna get yourself excited. It's
gonna make itself sad. We're gonna have to go pieces. Yeah, and
it's gonna be even more of a wreck than usual if they do. Hey,
we've we've updated Blood Born for PS five. It's the same games up.
I would absolutely take that. Yeah, I'll have that sixty frames,
decent frameway. Yeah, that Blue Point game should be there. Oh what
do you think? It is? Either either the new or the rumors they're
making a new game, but they're also believed to be working on the Demon
Souls remake. So if they do the remaster of a beloved yeah, if
it's Demon Souls, oh my god, I'm gonna get wet all right for
sweat, Sweat, you don't pushing the boundaries. I'm talking about overheating and
stuff. I mean, I mean Joel Luke's band name from last week was
a line what you sent said once, which I forgot to believe the second
time. I bet we're gonna see Grand Trees MO eight seven. Listen.
I'm not gonna rude, but it's like the white bread of racing games isn't
ship pet I haven't played a Grand Tres most since I was a kid.
Honestly, like, well, I feel like forts a kind of just showed
him up. Yeah, like, if I'm gonna play a racing game,
I'm gonna play for it's that. And if I'm gonna play a raising a
racing game, hell is probably frozen over because your bad. Yeah. I
was gonna say, like I really that was a joke. I can't speak
to fortsa or Grand Trees moo. I haven't played a racing game that was
a Mario Kart since like answers to four like a forts and horizon, Yeah,
foots, the horizon is want to just drive around in. I think
the Grand Trasmal games are really like people rarely love them and they do a
specific thing. But I think more and more as the time goes on,
that series feels more and more out of place with the world around it,
Like they're just still doing like very straight up simulation track racing with like there's
a Foxhall vector that you can race, and you're like, why why would
you do that? Like top top Gear built a whole TV show about that
exact concept, so yeah, true, And then I look at them.
Top Gears showed up in Forts of four yeah instead of Grain Trees, and
it's just, yeah, I think I'm one of those people actually a little
more like flavor and spice in their racing games to get me involved. Yeah,
I mean the same for you guys. I imagine too, if it's
going to be a launch title like this is just speculation, but I imagine
there's going to be a lot of stuff that have been in previous ones that
aren't going to be in this, and people are going to be surprised and
disappointed by that, even if they are fans, because I feel like that
that I mean that that happens with launch titles normally, especially like racing games.
I remember Forts of five or six, which everyone's the launch one for
the Xbox One. Was like it was one of the few games, so
I bought it and I was like, I'm just gonna play Forts of four
if I want to play this, because there's way more than Forts to four
and the top Gear guys are in there telling me about cars, punching producers,
ronins. Apart from James may normal, he seems to be wholesome.
He's out like helping like move COVID relief. He's like driving around and helping
people out. Where is around mcclockfin who knows? Yeah, no bid anyway,
any other predictions. We've got Demon Souls Horizon two. I'm expecting like
souped up versions of the games that are bridging the generation gaps. So like
Last US two goes of what was that one? That was it? The
game? What was it? God God Fall? Yes? That confirmed for
we haven't heard anything about that? Is that the Gearbox one? Yeah?
Yeah, okay, I saw. I mean, if you're listening to audio
vision, you will not be able to catch to More's slight eyebrow rais there?
He said. All I'm saying is no, I'm not gonna I don't
know what you're gonna say, but don't to work comes on and it's just
unleashing all these spicy tastes. Wadland Wadeline phraz is one of the worst written
games I've ever played in my lifetime. Just hope. I am care much
for it. I didn't care for the writing either, is anyone I know?
People do? People like it. It's just it's just not for me.
It's not for me, and that's fine. Yeah, and that's okay.
That's home live in my life. It's not for me, but it's
fine. It's fine. It's not right, but it's okay. References.
Yeah, great, Well, anyway, speaking of dreams, will be there
dreams, and then there's like a bunch of like crossover generation stuff like the
games like yeah, but like games of the service stuff like Siege, you'll
probably pop up in some regard like four years of Living, Confirmed Wars,
Destiny Overwatch will probably have some sort of presence. I hope. I mean,
I wonder if they'll bring Overwatch and just leave it or just leave it
for two. That would be weird. Like I don't know if they're going
to do cross gen service. That's one thing, because like that's not been
a thing for a lot of generations, right. I think maybe Microsoft did
it into some degree, but like PS three to PS four, there wasn't
like backwards generational compatibility. And for Overwatch, which is putting people from both
games in the same pool, then if that's gonna work. Yeah, I
forget how Destiny one did it because that was cross generational. Yeah, I
don't. I don't think you've shared its like with three sixty owners and Xbox
ones didn't share. I think you just like moved your safe dat didn't you?
Oh didn't you have to go on PC to do it? That?
Now? Yeah, once once they opened it up for cross across platforms,
when you had to do that, But that would mean that over Watch would
need to be on the next generation of consoles, provided did it haven't figured
out some sort of cross generational server solution. I bet you with all these
all the all these like consoles and games talking to each other, I bet
there's going to be a way for certain games too, like like Overwatch.
I'd be surprised if you wouldn't be able to play with people on PS five
on your PS four I don't know, maybe not actually, I don't know.
Complicated, but anyway, we should talk about ghosts of ghosts of Sushima,
not ghosts of Sushima. Do you know that we've all been pronouncing it
wrong? I didn't really Sushima. Yeah. Yeah, it's some of those
things where it's like if you pronounce it too correctly, you sound like an
ass, so like you might as well pronounce it the americanized way. That's
precisetive what I've been doing, Like I don't want to be that yeah person
is going hi. It's a transition from like normal Western speaking to like one
word is intensely Japanese and impact a little bit talking about a ghost of Tsushima.
I think I've said this on the podcast before, but I had my
friends and I in high school. We were taking Spanish classes and we were
joking about people like that, and the example was always, Hi, my
name is Rachel. I'm from Uhy. So that's how I'm always I'm very
self gone. I don't want to sound like that. I don't want to
be Rachel from I don't want to be Rachel from Uru. Why so yeah,
I'm fine with saying Tsushima. It's fine. That's like me whenever I
go to like to get a curry out in public, like I'll be like
speaking and then like when I have to say the thing of you know,
the item I want, I switched to like Punjabi and everyone goes, you're
a weirdo. Like it's just this is how I said it growing up.
So I've made that like a point of not doing that with any other language.
That direct was cool. I am very much into that game. I
you know, what I really like is that the interact button is on R
two And I was like, like, genuinely a small thing that I noticed
interact with stuff. Action button was on R two, and I was like,
yes, that is ergonomically pleasing to me. You came up with a
fantastic tweet during that, but you never tweeted it out. I was a
coward. You were a coward. I was a coward. It was it
was very good. A lot of my tweets I sent to Tamore for sort
of like he's my barometer for and that's me. I'm that to Jake,
Yeah, show iet this. And I was going to tweet broke hold f
to pay respects, woke hold our two to pay respects. I had it
ready to go and then I just waited too long. But I liked it.
Thank you, it's good. Well, one thing that I noticed actually
called out is I liked how the wind guides you the areas. I thought
that was pretty neat. So I had an interview with Nate Fox's creative director
on Ghosts of Tsushima, which the interview is up now on GameSpot dot com
find a website you can read it, and there will be a video version
of it coming up on the YouTube channel. But we talked about a bunch
of things, and one of the things was the wind thing. And I
think that I liked about the conversation. I had was like what the question
I asked him was like, how do you avoid being Assassin's creed and filling
a map with icons overwhelmed people? Is this the wind kind of thing an
attempt to do that? And it was like, yeah, kind of,
like the wind is there to guide you to your waypoint that you select and
your main missions. But we've designed the game in a way that we want
you to get distracted as much as possible, because we've put stuff out in
the world that isn't immediately visible. You know, how Assassin's created is like
every like sign posting or any interesting thing it exists in the world, but
it's also like oriented towards you, so you can see it in a very
specific way. So it's like if someone's saying something to someone to like mouthing
it towards you, to be like, hey, wouldn't it be good if
someone would help us with this issue we're having. They don't want to do
that. They want to make it like seem like, oh, there's something
happening over there, Like there's a fire stack that seems to be all like,
there's some commotion happening over there, and you go there, and if
you choose to go there. There's something there. It's kind of like there's
a little indie game that came out on PC and Nextbox Call, but it's
kind of like that developed by a Ragdag group of people in Poland. You
might have heard of it, but like that kind of thing where you kind
of it feels more natural and when you go there, you have something meaningful.
So the wind is kind of a guide. But also the interesting thing
about the Wind is like they've paid a lot of attention into the way they
represent nature in the game. Fox. Yeah, you can pet the Fox,
not the creative director of the game, Nate Fox, just to Fox
in the game. I mean, if you can pet Nate Fox as well,
like fair play golf for it might find a bit weird, ask him
for a seeker's permission, find his boundaries, and then figure it out.
But they really respect nature and they want to respect nature in the game.
And the reason they want to do that is because the game is influenced by
you know, summarized cinema and the kind of symbiosis between the esthetic symbiosis between
like a wandering samurai and the desolate nature of nature. If you get what
I'm saying, like you always have the samurai standing in the field and like
the grass is blowing and like the trees the leaves are like crossing over.
You know. It's very esthetically pleasing, and they're making sure that they're respecting
that as well. So that's part of it. And the other thing that
I found really interesting was like there's loads of Curosoura thing like he did it.
He did like a broke Walk Galaxy Brain thing as well, where he
was like broke everyone got in. This game is inspired by a Kirokurosawa's you
know, work, but actually the work thing is it's actually inspired by a
comic book series called Usagi or Jimbo, which is like a really old it's
like really it started really long time ago in the eighties and it's still ongoing,
but it's it's it's like a world of anthropomorphic animals, you know,
standing in for humans, and it's about this rabbit rollin who's just like is
Asaki means rabbit in Japanese. But he's like a wandering samurai and he just
rolls up into places and uses his you know, his training and his wit
to kind of solve the issues and moves on and that's what this game is.
It's like an anthology of stories. So Broke is Krosawa woke Isa Jimbo
im pressure friends by telling everyone actually this was Sagia Jimbo. Also Galaxy Brain
is that it's a rabbit ronin Rabbit Ron. Yeah, his name is Miyamoto
Miyamoto Usaki instead of Miyamoto Musashi, which is very good, very good.
I wonder if Lone Wolf and Cub had any influence to That's the one I
didn't ask him. So I asked him if he'd seen Roni Kenshin and he
was like, yes, I have seen Roni Kinshin. I was like,
if there's an East Egg in there will be petting your fox if you know
what I'm saying. Anyway, Lone Wolf and Cub is another manga, but
an old Everyone felt really bummed out the questions anyway, Coasts of Tsushima.
That'll do man, all right, let's move on to the listener questions.
Then, if you've got any questions for us, you can email up email
us at after Dark podcast at GameSpot dot com, or you can join our
discord and we will get you in there and we've got a channel where you
can ask whatever questions you'd like within reason, and this week all the questions
come from Discord once again, Kelly, do you want to read the first
one? Sure? Let's switch sabs here. Sure, Sure, Sure.
I've had Red Dead on the brain till the last couple of weeks. Am
I download it again? Playing on PC was like incredible, Like it is,
That's what I'm stunning. Anyway, This comes from CPAV on Discord.
I've started getting into using Unity to jump into game design, and it's really
hard coming up with an original idea beyond just doing a two D platformer.
I feel like indie developers eighty percent of the time just stick to side scrolling
platformers with pixel graphics, just due to sheer ease. But I feel like
the genre and look up, these games are becoming a little tired. Are
there any common elements of indie game design that you feel are overdone? And
what games of late have blown away your expectations of what it indie develop indie
developer is capable of. By the way, love the podcast. I caved
in and bought Yakisa zero because you guys mentioned it at least once per episode,
and I hope they're really digging it. We get it where we abooze.
Thank you. C peth On, Jake mister, I play every JRPG
anyway. The first thing that comes to mind for me is that I personally
am tired of like indie met trade Vania games. I mean, I guess
just metroid Vania games in general, two D ones, particularly like Ori.
As beautiful as those games look, by the time the first one came out,
I was like, I've played so many indie metroid Vania games. As
pretty as this game looks and as great as it is, I just don't
know if I can do that. And ever since then, I like,
still I find it really difficult to get into two D metroid Vania games.
I think it's just because like it's such a it's like so predictable, like
the arts that really has to draw me in. And I guess if RI
didn't draw me in like that, it's got to be something really cool.
I forgot already too. I started playing RI too and I downloaded it.
I yeah, I wanted to play it, but it was just like,
I don't know if I want to do another. I don't I don't know
if I want to do metric me even hollow Night is a game that I've
tried to play so many times because people have told me it's one of the
best games ever. Like straight up, people have told me it's the best
game ever, And like, I just I can't do it because I'm just
I don't. I don't want to play a two D metro Vania game.
I struggle. I mean, the difficulties what got made with holl at Night.
But I feel similarly about two D Metroid Vanya is like I'm not I
don't know, I just had maybe a mental block about it because I've went
through a phase of playing so many I think the one exception to the rule
is probably Dead Cells. Yeah, well that like shook it up quite a
bit. I feel like with the rogue Light elements and stuff like that.
But I mean, like one of my favorite games is Super Metroid and I
play that, I don't know every other year or so, and I love
that game. But and maybe that game for me just kind of hit that
high and just nothing is really gotten up there. But I don't know if
I don't think that's true because it sounds like Hollow Night. Like from what
I played, I thought the combat was great. It's just like I just
lost steams so fast and I really want to finish it. I just can't
do it. The one that I think of like annoyingly the thing that I'm
tired of, and the in the game that also recently I was like,
this is really good is the same thing. So, like the thing I'm
tired of is the Hotland Miami style thing, or it's like incredibly fast paced.
You punch a thing once and it's dead, and then if you get
killed, you die in one hit and then you've got to hold over again,
like it worked, but there's just an abundance of them. But then
the game that I really really enjoyed recently I forgot the name of it was
this which one called blood Roots. Blood Roots. That's the one, no
Blood Roos. I really enjoyed, Like it was that, But I think
after playing that, I was like, that was good. I don't think
I've enjoyed a game like that since the original Hotland Miami and kind of Hotland
Miami two. I don't think Hotland Miami Two's is good, but I'm okay
with not playing another one of these for a while. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good one too, because I remember being very excited for Hotline Miami
two, played through all of it, but by the time I was done
with that game, I was like, I don't need another one of these
games for a while. And then I played Eight Out, which, let's
say it's kind of close to that, which I enjoyed, but once again,
yeah, like the music is really good, the art style is really
good. Once again, it was just kind of like I've done this before,
which isn't a bad thing, right, Like, I'm sure there are
plenty people who straight up missed Hotline Miami, never played it, and then
there's these other games like Blood Roots and Ape Out to kind of feel that
void so people can learn about this style. But maybe it's just because I
enjoyed Hotline Miami so much and I was like, that's it, That's all
I need. Yeah, I couldn't get into Ape Out, and I was
surprised because I look like Hotline Miami is one of like the my top indie
games at the very least. I love that game, but yeah, it
was kind of a magic that's hard to recapture. I would say for me,
the indie thing that I'm kind of tired of is uh like Pokemon imitators,
and like like I haven't really liked the three D indie Like I forget
my time at Porsche. I wasn't super into My Time Porsche, which was
like a three D Harvest Moon, Like I think, what's name of that
Pokemon clone that was really forgot I existed. I couldn't get into ten Times.
I'm part of that. It's not ten Times Fall is not done.
So it's like I can't really say definitively whether I wouldn't get into ten Time.
But I think when you're going after rather than a genre but a very
specific kind of game, you're gonna run into issues of people who are into
that kind of game comparing really closely with the game that they're used to.
And like as far as like farm Similars go, like Stardy Valley is probably
my favorite game I've ever played, So when you try to chase that that
farm game high, I just like really don't see anything surpassing what Starty Valley
is done. And then yeah, I'm tired of Metroid Beings too. M
see have the trick with current indie games. There's like takes something incredibly mundane
from real life and somehow to make a cool game out of it, Like
the one I always think of is like this is a specifically for Lucy.
Remember supermarket Sweep? Yeah? How has no one turned that into a video
game? Like a fun mini game collection? I don't try to check out
deep. I had an idea of like a horror game that takes place in
a multiplayer lobby or not like a like a like a multiplayer map, Like
you're just in a multiplayer map and there's no one there and weird things start
to happen. And I mentioned on the podcast. I'm not saying me mentioning
it had anything to do with this, but I mentioned on the podcast like
an early early episode, and a couple weeks later, Jean Luke sent me
a link and he's like, hey, is this is what you're talking about?
And sure enough, there's a game that was made like somewhat recently that's
just a horror game where you're in like a multiplayer lob being weird things start
to happen, and it's it was kind of neat. It's called Jake's Bookie
Time with Friends for some reason. Who knows. It's actually when I try
to get friends to play with me but they don't join and I just run
around the lobby by myself. Have you guys seen that horror game where you're
in Ikea and the lights turn off and the Ikea employees chase you. That
sounds awesome, cool, that sounds amazing. You have to do? You
have to like build furniture to escape them. You quick make a moum.
I've always like a gift of it, so I wanted to find it.
But I really like like just indie games that take a concept and then just
keep galaxy brain building on it. I mean it becomes a thing. It's
like until it's like, yeah the premises that I was like, hey,
it's a misterious goose. There was that one game which was like Flora's Lava.
Remember that, Oh the one that was on Apple Arcade? Yeah?
Yeah, So did you ever play this game? Like it's gonna this is
gonna sound real weird, but I don't. No Sticky Sticky Glue, did
you ever play this game? So there's this kid a playground game we used
to play called Sticky Sticky Glue, and what it was like basically like tag
or had so one person some people called had Tag in like depending on I
moved around a lot of schools, very unstable infancy, and it was different
different like things, different names for the games, and one of them was
had, one of them was tag, but it was tag one person was
it and then everyone ran and this person chased them and when they got tagged,
instead of being out, they would have to like put their hands out,
so they were like told that they were caught in glue, in sticky
glue. And then what would happen is another player could then if they could
like run underneath that person's arm, it would put them back in the game.
So the person play this, yeah, yes, we didn't call it
that though, So the person who played Trees Tag, maybe that's just freeze
teg Listen, it's called sticky sticky glue, So make the indie games sticky
stinking glue steep have But like I'd love to see like a Rocket League style
treatment to that, you know what I'm saying, Like it's the arena where
you have to like run around and tag people and sticky sticky on sticky glue
them sticky sticky glue. Before we move on to the next question, are
there any just quickly, are there any indie games recently that really blew you
away disco disco, Yeah, let's say disco and blood cells. Blood cells
is what a couple of years old now, but dead cells, dead cells,
blood roots and dead sell well, actually episode of a hold on.
There's that one Apple Arcade game that I was obsessed with? What was it
all? Was it? The oh Grindstone Grindstone Bank to the game the goal?
Yeah? Yeah, Patton is still my favorite Appolockade game. It's just
basically doing jigsaw puzzles. It's a life I lead. I was doing jigsaw
puzzles before it was cool. Bring back Pegel Oh yeah. Next question is
from Myron WB. Since they seem everywhere, what are your favorite examples of
skill trees and games? I think this is a follow up till last week
when one of the questions was what do you want to see not return next
Gen? And John Luke was like, I'm tired of skill trees in every
game. Sada has two skill trees, so I mean, I was gonna
say, I really like the Witcher skill tree. It's not like the Witcher
threes. It's not like you can't like crafted entirely different character with that skill
tree. But it's really fun matching the colors and plugging in different cells in
order to like improve your strength or alcamy or whatever it might be. Like,
it's really satisfying. I think it's just seeing how all that stuff connects.
I liked Horizon Zero Dance skill Tree, but I I couldn't tell you
why I was remember liking it. Yeah, I like skill trees in general,
though I'm all about I'm liking. I love ship skill tree is pretty
good. Yeah, Schros is good. Seven remake skill Tree, not skill
tree, but material the weapon upgrade thing, Yeah, it's pretty good.
Peopoint and fun of fency Tense fig Grade is really good as well. I
like that. I like the way they change skill trees if you look across
the Mass Effects series, and I like the way in three it was very
very simple, but then at one point it just allowed you to branch,
and so it was basically like just a nice way of introducing things. But
I think, what was this skill tree? Was it far cry primal?
I remember liking their skill tree a lot because I think of the way that
you unlocks stuff was basically based on what you collected or how many people you
killed. I prefer things like that. I prefer like infe I was just
saying, Wolfenstein is really good because it's based on what you do. Yeah,
I really enjoy it when skills upgrade that way, and because it if
I want to unlock everything, it forces me to play in a play style
that I usually wouldn't, which I think is great, but it also enforces
my It's great enforcing the way that I like to play, but also encouraging
me to try playstyles that I don't normally do, so I think good.
That was one of the great things about Skyrim too. It's skill tree.
It was just it like adapted to you. As opposed to you build a
skill tree or a character at story and you follow that skill tree. It
was more like, Okay, I want to do this play style and then
everything would be tailored to use. You followed that path, which is neat
and it's great. And I liked how that system was. You'd look up
at the stars and you'd see the yeah, and you'd like plot your path
and the stars. I thought that was that was a really neat skill tree.
This one is pretty good as well. Yeah, yeah, yes,
straight up banger of the game. All right, tomorrow, do you want
to read this last question here? Oh boy? Do I we all come
into front software. That sounded that was a very boring start to the reading
that we all come into front software games and roguelikes expecting some kind of challenge.
But what games over the years have you encountered that completely caught you off
guard with how hard they were? Personally? I would say Jack two and
Metal Arms. On the outside they look like simple, family friendly adventures,
but on the inside there's some of the most unforgiving, difficult games of the
PS two era. Jeremy from Discord, he's in Discord, He's not born
and living in Discord Iden Marrend like how you put your hand over your mouth.
It sounded the same, but your voice exactly. You need to get
the echo. There is arises pizza hypal games to look easy on the outside.
Jack two is a good It is a good one here because I remember
having so much trouble with that game as a kid, like I'd have to
have friends help me beat certain areas because it was so freaking hard. I
don't know if it's still hard, but I remember having so much trouble with
that game. I wouldn't say it's like the game in general, but Jesus
Christ Seffiroth in Kingdom Hearts Too. Oh yeah, wait, he's in Kingdom
Hearts Too. Dude, he's played by Lance Bass from end Sync. I'm
not even kidding. Oh, it's like the game is from my recollection and
playing it as a kid fairly even in terms of difficulty. And then you
get to Sefroth. I think he's an optional boss anyway, but you get
to Sefroth and it's like, oh shit, yes, this is not gonna
go the way I want. They were like, we need to preserve his
like legacy, so make him basically unbeatable. And then you've got like a
little cartoon characters trying to fight this evil superhero, and Goofy is just getting
absolutely stomped by a dude with massive sword constantly. You're like, what's this
about? Why have you done this? Another one that I can think of
is I had a lot of trouble with Mario sixty four as a kid.
I thought that game would be easy because it's a Mario game. But I
remember, especially when you get to the late the later areas, because early
on, like a lot of the levels makes sense right, Like you're on
you're on a mountain, You're on an icy area, and then I feel
like you get to the later levels and it's just like, all right,
we're just gonna like vomit a bunch of floating platforms and you have to jump
from floating platform to floating platform in order to get this like star that's a
pain in the ask to get while you're trying to figure out the camera and
like that game I remember being very hard. I remember not having that much
difficulty with Crash Bandicoot one through three as a kid, but the remake was
way harder, and I was like, oh, this is not how I
remember my childhood. I had that with Final Fancy nine. I remember playing
Fan Fancy nine so many times and then I brought it on PSP. I
was so excited I start playing. I was like, how did I play
this? It's impossible. It's like I was trying to get to like the
first dungeon, and just out of the first area, I was looking again
stomped, what's happening. There was an article going around the other day where
it was like, how did anyone beat the Lion King as a kid.
Oh, yeah, they've gone back to it and it's just nails. Mary
can like speed Runnen that thing and I'm like, I remember complaining it once.
It took behalf my lifetime. Anyway, that's been episode forty two of
game Spot after Dark. Thank you so much for tuning in, and if
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Kelly, where can people find you? And are you working on anything
this week? You can find me on Twitter at inky Dojico, I m
k y d o j ikko and you know, just the usual. What
about your your flower Guide? The Flower Guide is really coming together. John
Luke has almost finished the graphics for that to help visualize some of the more
difficult ones. And I'm really, I really am proud of the Flower Guide.
Of course, credit for the information, for a lot of the information
goes to the data miners. Polo's Advanced Flower GenEx Guide was a big sours
and then I consulted a lot. I've tested a lot, but I think
what we put together is really good. So there you go. So if
you're curious about what kind of flowers you can get her, what kind of
flowers you want, you can check that out. Lucy, where can people
find you? And is there anything coming up? I think we'll figure that
out. Are you just really into botany of these days? Quest? I'm
at Lucy James games on Twitter and Instagram. What am I working on?
I'm working on some episodes of audiologs that would do that I can't talk about,
but you should hopefully see one of those very soon. And we have
played for all coming up, which is starts on June first, so it's
kind of half hour E three replacement, covering all the big game announcements,
previews, et cetera. Everything you'd come to expect from US E three and
then the other half. But I'm more involved in is the charter stream,
so myself to more and chastity. I've been booking guests in We're gonna have
friends of game spots, so like people from the industry, we need some
names like Troy Baker, Greg Miller, Apex Legends, voiceovers, Assassin's Creed.
I'm trying to think what you said, Yeah, voice actors. What
did I say, voiceovers too? Yeah, we've got like loads of people.
The schedule fell that should be coming out soon. Actually we've got We've
got hayesus. Yeah. Time is so excited. His host is the best
and most enjoyable blood born speed runner in the world. And I, like
Jane Julie went to and I was like, please, sir, will you
stream for us? And he was like, oh, hell yeah. He
was like yeah, let's do this, and like he's the nicest guy.
If you watch any of his like a awesome game has done quick stuff,
like you will see why he's so good. He like turns his speed runs
into their own narrative and tells the story. It's so good and my favorite,
My favorite bit is his bit about ladders. Yeah it's going to bring
that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not super into speed running, like games
don't quick never really interested me, but whenever he's on, I typically tune
in for that because I think he's very entertaining and he's really good at it.
Just watching him, yea, describe as you go, Like I mean,
streaming Bloodborne recently is difficult because talking while playing that game is hard because
you're just so focused. But he is like genuinely funny and entertaining and I'm
very excited for that. Speak which to more, what are you working on?
And where can people find you? And it looks like you're frozen.
You look angry though, well I'm not frozen you I'm just being really still.
But you in a moment where it was like you were angry. No
he did it again or I don't know because it on in the background.
I'm trying to see that it's not moving. You can find me on Twitter
so I can show him wowsed it? Wait? I'm on. This is
going to be such a weird podcast for those it could really just because just
call it technically. If he's doing again, well, you can find two
more at two more h on Twitter. I'm hoping you can come back in
to tell us what he's working on, but I imagine it's a lot of
good. Sorry, go ahead. I'm just gonna say, check out his
Ghosts of Tsushimama. You h He's help and pull together all the games and
charge guests for play for all schedule coming soon. Be excited. He's probably
go viral. He's gonna go viral and at some point again he always does.
You can find me at Jacob Deck on Twitter. Uh. And I
have a Witcher video that went up celebrating five years of that game. Oh
he's uh, oh, there is celebrating five years of that game. And
uh, what's going on? A review? I'm doing a review. It
should be coming next week. I hate this scord. We'll see you next
week. We're plugged all your stuff for you, Thank you, veryman. No