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Weird things happened in the weird weird
weird Wow. Welcome everyone to bled,

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So said, so we are embodying
our positive bitch selves today. We're gonna

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talk about the divine feminine. We're
gonna talk about so many divine things.

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We're probably gonna blow your mind.
Welcome, Welcome. That was a fantastic

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intro. I gotta give that around
of applause. That was better than we've

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ever done every intro ever, So
little backstory this, this is just to

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me, it's so funny. So
I have been reaching out to so CC,

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the host of that Bitch is Positive, our guest, and then obviously

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us. We are hosted by a
parent company, or a subsidiary company of

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iHeartRadio called Spreaker, And I was
just reaching out to Spreaker's marketing management team,

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like, is there anything we can
do to you know, can you

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put us out there? Can you
run any ads on us, anything we

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can do to grow, like we
want to push past, you know,

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our plateau here, And they were
like, you know, actually, I

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think it'd be really cool if I
pitched you guys to CC and then y'all

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did an advertisement for each other.
So I was like Okay, cool went

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listen to an episode of CC show, and then Spreaker hit her up had

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the same instruction, you have to
listen to an episode of our show.

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And we went down the rabbit hole
of just loving each other's content. And

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here we are and we reached out
to each other and now we're friends and

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you know, doing the thing.
So, without further ado, CC is

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probably and I mean this in the
kindest way possible, probably the most positive

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bitch I've ever met. And I
just really appreciate your angle on spirituality and

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like whatever, you know, whatever
you want to go into. I'm I'm

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well, I have a I have
a quick question, if you don't mind

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um, and if you can just
give me, uh the closest you can

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get to a definitive answer. But
what would you say is the sexiest hermetic

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principle? That is? I love
it, I love it, I'm all

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about it. I really love the
law of vibration and understanding that everything is

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vibration. And the reason I say
that's the sexiest one is because if you're

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putting out sexy thoughts, sexy intensions, and you're embodying your sexiest self,

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you're going to attract sexy circumstances,
and that is what I'm all about.

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That's the sexiest one. That's facts. That's amazing. Okay, I have

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a I have a convection. I
hate to admit it, but I just

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today listen to your podcast for the
first time, but I have I have

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to say I am immediately a lifelong
fan, Like for real, it's so

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good. It's actually like so fantastic. And I was like scrolling through the

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titles like Okay, let's find one
to watch or whatever. And the one

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that I saw was how the Seven
Hermetic Laws Can Make You Hotter, and

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that title I was like, yes, I'm so in uh. And it

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was funny too, because one of
the first things you talked about was,

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um, I don't know if it
was your dad or somebody that you know.

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His dad is a land It was
into like really like landscaping to look

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nice and stuff. Well, that's
my job right now is landscaping. And

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I was doing that when I just
happened to listen to that episode. Yeah,

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that was a crazy synchronicity. That's
so cool. Yeah, that is

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my dad. He's obsessed with the
landscaping looking perfect, perfect, And that's

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really funny. What a synchronicity.
I like that. That is definitely not

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a coincidence. Yeah. No,
I immediately fell in love with the show.

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It is so funny. It's Oh. I also have to ask,

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is that your music in the beginning
of the Yeah, that's really Yeah,

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that's me singing, and I wrote
that song. I'm also a singer songwriter.

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I do many things. Yeah,
that's unreal because I'm not making this

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up. This is not bullshit.
The first thing I thought when it came

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on was did she seriously license an
Ariana Grande song? Like I swear to

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God? Like? I was like, this is obviously Ariana Grande, right,

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But everyone thinks that that's so funny. I think when you go higher

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in tone, all the voices start
to blend together. And so I've gotten

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that my whole entire life. But
that is my song. I make music

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when I when I want too,
and I just put it out there for

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anyone who wants to listen. But
when I made Angel Enter, I had

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no idea that was going to one
day be part of a podcast intro outro.

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But when I wanted to start my
podcast, I thought, well,

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I need an intro song, and
then I just used that one and that

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was it. It's amazing. It's
seriously so thank you, thank you.

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I didn't even see I had a
different when I when I first started listening

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to your show, it was like
I was told to listen to specific episodes.

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My mindset was like taking notes,
like I got to make an ad,

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you know, like we had to
do for each other. I had

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to record an ad like I had
a different mindset. But now I definitely

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got to go back and peepe the
song, like, I don't know how

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that went over my head. Is
it on like Apple Music, Spotify or

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anything. It's on everywhere. I
have other songs too, and I really

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it's funny because I've always felt like
I had the same purpose, which was

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to help other people heal. I
originally thought that was going to be purely

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through music. So I made music
based on my own emotional experiences to help

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other people feel what they needed to
feel so they could release it, said

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of it becoming stagnant and then turning
into a secondary issue or illness down the

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line. And that journey ended up
leading me somewhere else where. I became

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a life coach and did content creation. But it's still a part of my

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overall branding. I guess you could
say, wow, that's beautiful, thank

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you. Well, Nick, you
never said, like, what's your most

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sexy hermetic principle? Oh? I
mean, come on, it's it's as

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above so below. It's gotta be
right. I mean, look, the

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law of vibration. I love it. I love it. That's that's sick.

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But I don't know, I like
I like the ring of as above

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so below that's pretty hype. So
after our phone conversation and then we had

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been texting each other our crystals,
you know, showing all our bizarre crystals.

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I had to totally drip out for
this episode. So you're not ready

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for this. I had to go. We were literally we were. When

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we first met. We were talking
about, like, you know, how

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how people get so obsessed with these
things but then don't like do the work.

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So I was like, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta look

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as ridiculous as possible. At the
crystal ring, at the crystal bracelets.

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I love it. Crystal Buddhist beads, I'm due. Well, oh I'm

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wearing one around my neck. You
can see here, like the little Buddhist

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thing. I got one. Okay, we're all. We're all, we're

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all prepared. Ye. So,
and i'd like to um go, And

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I know you already told me this
story, but obviously the listeners don't know

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the story. I'd like to go
in to your name. Okay, So

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it really is my birth story,
and I have it as a running joke

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because I say that I've been fighting
for my life since before I even was

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born. And you'll understand what I
mean when I tell you this story.

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I didn't even tell you. Totally
forgot about this aspect. But there's a

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whole number aspect of this story that
I forgot to mention. But it starts

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off with my mom was thirty three
years old and she at this point had

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two miscarriages, and then she got
pregnant again with me. I don't like

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to say accident, I say surprise. And she was just so gung ho

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on having this baby, which was
eventually me. And she went to the

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doctor and the doctor basically told her
there's no way you're having this baby.

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She was having issues that would cause
someone to lose a baby, and she

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basically said, I refuse, I
refuse to not have this baby. I

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need to have this baby. I
cannot lose another one, and the doctor

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was really really set on telling her, you're not having this baby. So

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the doctor actually went ahead and scheduled
her to have a DNC, which basically

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wipes out the womb. So if
she was to go into for that appointment,

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she would have wiped me out.
I would have been not alive for

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sure. So yeah, she ended
up purposely missing the appointment, and they

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actually called her and they said where
are you. Why I haven't you shown

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up? And she told them,
no, like I said, I refuse

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to have this DNC, I refuse
to lose this baby. I'm having this

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baby. So she told them,
I'll come in when all of those machines

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are turned off. When you can
guarantee me that no machine is going to

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touch me, I will come into
the office. So I think it was

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after like five o'clock, six o'clock, all the machines would be off.

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She goes in and she swears before
the machine could even touch her stomach,

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she could hear my heartbeat. And
she starts screaming, crying, oh my

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god, there's a heartbeat. I
didn't lose the baby. She's still here.

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She's still here. I'm going to
have this baby. And the doctor

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still was almost getting stressed out and
telling her, look, don't get excited.

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You're not have this baby. There
might be a heartbeat right now,

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but there's way too much blood.
It's not happening. And so my mom

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goes back home and her friend brings
her this portrait of our Lady of Guadalupe,

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which is the Blessed Mother, and
it's not a painting. I can't

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describe what this portrait is made ahead
of, but it is the Blessed Mother.

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And she looked at this portrait every
single day, and she said,

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to the Blessed Mother, if you
allow me to have this baby, I

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will name her after your son.
And I don't even think she knew the

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gender of me yet, so she
said, whether it's a girl, boy,

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I'm going to name her after your
son, after Jesus Christ. And

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every single day she literally didn't move. She prayed to this portrait, She

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prayed to the Blessed Mother, and
she pretty much manifested me being born.

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And on the day that I was
going to be delivered, there was a

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nurse that came in and she this
is so weird because I've never heard this

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happen to anyone in my whole entire
life. The nurse was asking, oh,

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what are you going to name your
baby? And my birth name is

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Christa. I go by CC,
but my birth name is Christa. And

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my mom told this nurse, I'm
going to name her Christa. And the

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nurse said, you know what,
I don't really like that name. You

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know that that's not really that's not
really a modern name. And she said,

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if you're going to do that,
at least do it with a K,

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because that's more modern. And my
mom said, no, I have

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a promise with the Blessed Mother that
I'm going to name her C H R

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I S T A. That is
what I promised, and that's what I'm

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gonna do. And with that,
my mom said, it was almost unhuman

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the way this nurse reacted. She
just like a robot, turned around and

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just swooshed out of the room and
went down the hallway. And my mom

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was so weirded out by the situation
and how she moved that she literally got

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out of the hospital bed and ran
behind find her. Looked in the hallway

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and she was gone. She could
not find this woman anywhere. She asked

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other people, who was that nurse? With the brown hair she described her.

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No one knew who that was.
They said that nurse wasn't even a

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worker there. In general, they've
never heard of her. They didn't know

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who she was. And so my
mom ended up giving birth to me on

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one one one eleven at one forty
four, which I now understand our synchronicity

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and angel numbers. And she conceived
me at thirty three years old. And

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later on, this was only a
couple of years ago. She was telling

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this story to someone who was very
spiritual, and the lady who's very spiritual

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asked, my mom, did you
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feet? And my mom said,
you know what, I didn't look,

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but now that you say that,
I don't think she did. And the

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way she moved was so unhuman and
I've never experienced anything like that before.

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And so she's so thankful she didn't
understand this part of spirituality back then,

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because she said it would have scared
her to death. And now she can

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handle it because she's much deeper than
her own spirituality and we kind of lean

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on each other for spirituality, and
now we can both look at that and

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be like, oh, that wasn't
a human that was some lower entity trying

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to sway whatever this plan that me
and my mom have together was trying to

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sway that original plan, and that
is how I got to planet Earth.

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And yeah, wow, that's a
lot to unpack. I mean, dude,

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like, you know, she told
me this on the phone, and

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I was like, what, Like
immediately, you know, all these thoughts

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are going through my head like it's
it's some spiritual force. Was Oh yeah,

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whether it was an evil entity trying
to get your mother to not name

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you that so that those vibrations wouldn't
be put on you, or maybe it

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was a test yeah missed to the
mother. Yeah it was a test.

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I don't know, but she passed. If it was a test, yeah,

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you know, but that that that
means something pretty significant to me.

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When you said, um, I
feel like my whole life, since before

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I was born, something was trying
to prevent you from getting here. My

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dad's always told me that. I
think my dad even wrote that in his

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book he always felt like something was
trying to kill him. Because I literally

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feel the same exact why, Yeah, that's that's like that that the second

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you said that, I was like, oh my god, Like we really

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are meeting for a reason, and
and and there's a lot of like synchronicities

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between how we met and this coming
together. And you know, I do

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have to say your your Instagram or
your Instagrams, because you have two of

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them. Yes, I think the
content is so it's just so well executed.

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It's it's it's just so awesome what
you're doing. There's there's nothing I

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love more than someone like you and
the many others that we've come across who

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are trying to use their knowledge of
spirituality in these strange, bizarre things to

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try to like enrich other people's lives
with positivity. And you know, it's

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just what you're doing is so awesome. We thank you. You do it

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in kind of like a similar way
to like our show, you know you

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honestly, yeah, you do it
in a way where you're like this translator

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where you take this like very high
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you relate it to like a very
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in a very comfortable way, like
where it's easy to understand. You know,

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it's fun. Thank you. Yeah, it's fun. It's funny,

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and it's not intimidating. It's whimsical. Yeah, thank you. You know,

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I think it was during COVID that
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do, Because during COVID, well, my parents thought I was crazy,

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but I was printing out that government
gateway document, highlighting it, understanding what

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manifestation was, obsessed with doctor Stephen
greer ufo, all these multidimensional beings.

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everything I was learning. And they
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weird, and I said, oh
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I knew from that point, I
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people like me, girls like me
my friends are going to go to go

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dot com and print out these articles
and highlight them and read quantum physics textbooks

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and the law of one. So
you know what, I'm going to be

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the one to do that, and
I'm going to translate it into a language

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they can understand because this information is
priceless. I mean, it changed my

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life. I know it can change
other people's lives too. That's yeah,

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you're you're translating it for the girlies. Yeah. Literally, we're like we're

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like translating it for like the dudes
who like anime and like stuff like it's

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it's so funny. When I was
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I got this overwhelming vibe, like
it's the same thing. You're like our

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Sisters show. Yes, you're you're
literally like our Sisters show. And another

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weird synchronicity is like you're the creator
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we do that too. It's so
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for the podcast, it's all made
by Nick. But also I don't know

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because we follow each other on Instagram. Now, I don't know if you've

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caught wind of this or have really
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have a very heavy metal band together. Oh I think you've actually mentioned that

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to me. That is really funny. That opposite of your music. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, it's definitely different, but hey, it's all positive

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vibes variety. Yeah, yeah,
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I listened and they and by the
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the Divine Feminine episode, So that
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I was like, oh my god, like she gets it, she gets

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it. I'm just listening to the
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Like Jenny, I have to reach
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It took me a while to reach
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in the way. And then you
and then you after I followed you and

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then you started following me. You
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it's happening, like you messaged me. I've been meaning to me message her.

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You know, there's other guests we've
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things going on and which is total
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like this is like these shows like
have a very similar energy. So yeah,

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it was after I listened to the
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transcript from one of your dad's past
life or just a regression I'm a hypnosis

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to understand what he experienced, and
when he was talking about the Divine Mother,

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I started crying because that was something
I've been feeling again since COVID,

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and that whole whirlwind was happening on
planet Earth, that the Earth was shifting,

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that the collective consciousness was shifting,
and that it's almost like the Earth

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is going through a dark night of
the soul and unraveling all of these energies

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that are too violent or just too
in our wounded masculine And when I heard

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someone else validate that, I just
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myself, I need to reach out
to this human being because this is special

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to me. This is someone who
understands it. And when you're going out

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into the world, not everybody does. So when you find those people,

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you kind of want to make them
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That means a lot to me too. There needs to be like and there

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is. There is this like big
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of support with experiencers or or with
people who are interested in this, this

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these sort of subjects. Like there's
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very safe space most of the time. Yeah, most of the time there,

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but yeah, I feel like people
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whether it's people like me who grew
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experiences, or as people like you, all of you who have had a

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mix of not only experiences but also
just like a natural interest to these kinds

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of subjects, or just people out
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and they have a level of belief
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us sit. I just think in
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kind of knowledge and subject are undergoing
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and like I think it's really happening. I do. I think it's happening

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now. And you know it's there's
a reason that we're seeing all this UFO

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stuff on the news. Well,
it's because they're trying to make they're trying

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to level the playing field to where
everybody on planet Earth is talking about UFOs

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and the fringe and the beyond.
You know what's really out there. All

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those roads lead down to the bottom, which is the conversations that you and

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I and Nick and Alex are having
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But something's happening. There's a shift
happening. And I didn't tell you this

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on the phone either, Cec.
You held you know, of course,

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not on purpose, but you held
the numerological significance for me. I think

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you're gonna like this one what my
dad has taught me since I was a

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kid, probably the most important thing
that still to this day, you know,

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turning thirty and two months and he
still beats this into my brain since

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I was like thirteen, fourteen years
old. Be positive, be positive,

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have positive thoughts. He told me
a few weeks ago. We were hanging

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out and he was just getting real
deep with me, and he's like,

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you know, the only way that
I survived all of this stuff. And

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you'll you'll see some stuff in the
books you see this like, oh my

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god, Like, how can one
human being go through all this? You

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know, being shot when he was
ten years old, and dying, being

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pronounced dead so many different times,
having four or five extreme near death experiences,

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and you know, his wife dying
in his arms when he was like

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nineteen years old, all these traumatic
circumstances, and he told me the only

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way he survived all of it was
just always visualizing the outcome being positive.

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You know, it's so important because
we are both broadcasters and receivers of energy

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and whatever we are broadcasting, most
of the time, that's what we're going

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to receive. And I think that
a lot of people don't realize it,

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but they're so afraid of Oh I
don't want to be cursed, or oh

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I need this evil eye or this
or that. We're cursing ourselves because we

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are the ones talking negatively about ourselves
most of the time. Our inner critic

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is on twenty four seven. We
are the ones just making jokes about how

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we're not good enough, how we're
not pretty enough. We are the ones

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who are cursing ourselves. And as
soon as we do that, and by

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cursing ourselves, I just mean talking
negatively about ourselves or thinking negatively about ourselves

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or the world, we open the
door to more negative energy to come into

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our ric fields and attach onto us. It's that easy. We're living in

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an energetic universe and we don't need
to understand and for example, gravity,

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for gravity to be at work in
our life, whether I like it or

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not, if I step off a
cliff, I'm gonna fall. So whether

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I like it or not, believe
it or not think about it or not.

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If I am thinking negatively about myself
or the world, that is the

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dorm opening, and I'm inviting in
negative energy, which is entities, into

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my oric field. And if you
have a thought, for example, that

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you're like I don't understand I can't
stop thinking negative about this concept or this

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subject or myself. Most of the
time, it's not you who is the

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originator of that thought. It's that
you're receiving a thought from a negative entity

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that's just stuck in your energetic field. And I think that we need to

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stop you blaming everyone else, looking
at everyone else. We got to start

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focusing on ourselves here, because a
lot of the time we are the perpetrator

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of our own bad news. It's
like, what you're saying is things that

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we talk about on the show and
in some manner all the time. It's

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things we believe, but when I
hear it from you, it just hits

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home. It just makes so much
sense. Well, I'm happy to hear

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that, but it's just I think
it's it's so important that we realize that.

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And that's why I made that Bitch
is positive. I mean, bitch

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stands for babe and true connection with
herself and being positive. It doesn't mean

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that we're having this false positivity when
we have a negative emotion, release it,

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because emotion is meant to be in
movement. It's meant to be like

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water, have a wave, let
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we're having this false positivity all of
the time. But we're connected to ourselves.

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So when we feel that negative feeling, instead of harping on it,

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instead of spiraling about it, we
release it. We cry it out,

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we scream into a pillow, we
do a workout, cherk on the wall.

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If that's how you want to release
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year. You mean like a month
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like twenty Okay, yeah, I
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It's a great way to release energy. If you think about dogs,

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you ever seen two dogs play together
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The first thing they do is shake
out their bodies. So if you

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are having a negative, I don't
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the first thing you want to do
afterwards is twork it out, release it

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out. I'm telling you it makes
such a difference, and that way you're

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cleaning your slate, so then you
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or emotion. I've had some people
tell me that what they they'll they'll

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physically jump up and down, like
just flushing out negative and that's been proven

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too, that this is radinhole.
NASA did some studies because they wanted to

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find out what was like the most
efficient extra size that they could have astronauts

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do for their bone density and their
heart health, you know, like cardovascular

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type fitness training for astronauts. And
they found that like rebounding, like you

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know the little rebounder trampolines, they
had them do like thirty minutes of exercise

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on that or something like that,
and they found that any sort of activity

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that's repetitive jumping up and down,
yeah, fully flushes the lymph nodes and

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just like overtime detoxes the body.
And like, there's something to what you're

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saying. I mean, I think
it's literally flushing out negative energy from the

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body. Yeah. I was in
a meditation once and I was asking my

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spirit guides or angels, whatever you
want to call it. I was telling

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them, how can I release the
trauma? A lot of women specifically have

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trauma in their hip area, and
I asked them how do I release that

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energy because I'm not really sure.
I don't think sit ups are doing it.

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And they showed me a picture of
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oh, hula hoop, and literally
every single night I do like thirty minutes

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of hula hooping because if you think
about it, it's like EFT emotional freedom

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tapping. You're tapping on your sacrel
and solar plexus and repeatedly tapping on it

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is releasing the energy stored in there. So if you have sexual trauma or

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any sort of trauma with your feminine
energy, doing hula hoop is going to

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release that. I call it hula
healing. It's like I'm asking about it,

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but it really does amazing things.
You just blew my mind. Another

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major synchronicity because we actually just booked
a guest, a man a friend of

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my dad and I by the name
of doctor Larry Burke, and he's going

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to come on the show in about
a month and he actually wrote a book

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on EFT tapping. It's fantastic.
And when you do EFT tapping, they

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mostly focus on the face, the
different meridians on the face, the color

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bone underneath your armpit, and the
top of your head. But they usually

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don't do EFT on your actual body
or your larger trauma. Does it on

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the head, Yeah, yeah,
he doesn't. That's what most will do.

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They do it on the head,
the face. And when I saw

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the hula hoop, I was like, this is like EFT, but for

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my hips, my stomach, the
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does the same thing. It helps
you release that energy and it's I think

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it's very special. So if anyone
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that's brilliant. That's super helpful.
I like you said, I mean a

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lot of women suffer that similar type
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a ton of people by spreading that
information. That's so interesting, I hope.

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So. I mean, I think
my spirit guides every single day because

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they've really give me so much information. It's it's not something I would think

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of. It's not possible for me
to know certain things. But they tell

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me and I listen and that and
I take whatever they tell me and I

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give it to other people. Even
the other day, I found this really

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helpful. I think everyone. I
don't think it's just women anymore. I

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used to, but I think everyone
struggles with their soul body connection and really

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connecting to your physical body. If
you think about it, if we have

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all these past lives, it means
we're in many different bodies. If we're

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actually a spiritual being having a temporary
earthly experience, we're more so in alignment

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with a lighter frequency, not such
dense energy. So it makes sense that

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we're going to have a bit of
trouble when we are connecting with this dense

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physical three D body. And I
was asking my spirit guides help me understand,

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you know, why am I in
this body? Why is someone else

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in a different body? And what
they showed me is they took me to

407
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:42.359
a department store like a Macy's or
Bloomingdale's, and instead of their being closed,

408
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:47.559
everywhere there was bodies on hangars.
And it sounds gory, but it

409
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.279
wasn't. It was like, oh, you could purchase this one or you

410
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.279
could purchase that one, and yeah, and they were showing me the different

411
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.160
bodies and each body had a tag
and it was a big tag. But

412
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.920
the tag is essentially had the positive
side effects and negative side effects that each

413
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.000
body had the potential of aligning with. So you know, one body could

414
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:12.119
have five possible illnesses during its lifetime
that it could align with. Here are

415
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.720
the strengths, here the weaknesses,
And the biggest part of the tag was

416
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.799
the lesson you were going to learn
from this body, And they were showing

417
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:25.839
me the reason why I picked this
certain body was because I had to learn

418
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.960
balance and self discipline and mostly balanced, which is something I don't like,

419
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.559
so it makes sense why I'm being
forced to learn it. And they showed

420
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.160
me we pick our bodies as a
teacher as a tool to help our soul

421
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:44.519
grow and evolve, and that to
me really helped me gain a better connection

422
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.799
with my body. I think we're
so focused on how can I look like

423
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.640
this, how can I attract a
significant other, and we're missing the point.

424
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.720
We're missing that we aligned with this
body. We chose this body as

425
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.039
a teacher to help us learn,
develop and grow. Oh, it's much

426
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:06.519
more than we think that is happening
during this earthly experience. And I think

427
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.160
some people would say, well,
I would never choose this body with this

428
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:14.519
illness or that illness. But to
our soul's point of view, they're thinking,

429
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.559
oh, this is just an earthly
experience. This happens within the blink

430
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.480
of an eye internity. Yeah,
it's so different. Yeah, that's that's

431
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.920
so wild. I've I've read that
that like pretty much exact same concept in

432
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.599
like ancient mystic texts and stuff like
that. Like, it's so cool that

433
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:41.319
you were shown that in like a
modern context, I would understand. Yeah,

434
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.160
how it describes it in the Tibetan
Book of the Dead. Tell us

435
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.960
what I'm thinking of. It probably
is, um, it's a little different,

436
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.960
but it's it's it's similar enough,
a little bit similar enough to where

437
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.119
I believe the truth of what you're
saying, you know. Uh. The

438
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:01.720
Tibetan Book of the Dead describes that
in between live you watch like basically,

439
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.319
I mean, they don't have this
word back then, but like you basically

440
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:12.319
watched like slide shows and you pick
you watch slide shows of like couples getting

441
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.920
it on, and you pick which
parents are going to be the one that

442
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:21.839
you're born from. I like your
version a little better yet cooler. Yeah,

443
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.119
for sure, it's more hip to
modern times. Yeah. I have

444
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.880
a follow up question with about your
spirit guides. When was the first time

445
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.920
that you communicated with your spirit guides? Oh? It was yeah, okay,

446
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.240
So it was a little scary to
me at the time because I had

447
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:45.240
no idea what was happening. I
was actually sleeping, but I was going

448
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:50.480
through the toughest time of my spiritual
awakening essentially, and that was the beginning

449
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.400
dark Knight of the soul, isolation
and going through a break up, graduating

450
00:32:53.440 --> 00:33:00.519
college. It was everything at once, and I was really almost screwing at

451
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.240
them to connect with me. And
I didn't know about meditation and all the

452
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.680
things I know now. This was
the very beginning. And I was,

453
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.519
however, creating music and that was
the first thing I was ever drawn to.

454
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.400
And so it was, you know, three am, and I wake

455
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:22.799
up and I hear this translucent voice
saying right right, and I'm thinking,

456
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.160
what are they talking about? It? To me, it sounded like the

457
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.839
Beyonce song like to the left to
the left, but to the right to

458
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.440
the right. And I was like, I don't know what that means.

459
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.599
I don't understand what to do with
that information. Yeah, I was like,

460
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.960
and who also said that? By
the way, because what just happened?

461
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.519
And I was so scared. I
still to this day, I'm not

462
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.400
a fan of the dark. I
sleep with the night light in my hallway

463
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:51.079
and anyway, I just forgot about
it in that moment. Five minutes later,

464
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.799
I started to write a song in
my notes. When I went back

465
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:58.279
to sleep, and then I woke
up the next morning. I was brushing

466
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.640
my teeth and it occurred to me, Oh my god, right right,

467
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.799
not the directional work, but like
write it down, write it down,

468
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.480
saz or write it down. And
so that was my first connection. And

469
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.880
once that happened, I was like, I want more. And then the

470
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:20.679
second one was crazy because I was
doing a meditation outside and I was finally

471
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.599
getting into the groove of it.
It was one of those days where I

472
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.239
was having monkey mind, just thinking
about a bunch of different things, and

473
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:32.559
my dog happened to be barking and
it just disrupted my meditation. So I

474
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.719
got up. I paused the video
and I was like, Max, stop

475
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:38.920
barking, I'm meditating. I was
like, what are you looking at?

476
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.400
It relaxed, and I was outside
and it was dark, so I was

477
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.119
a little like creeped out and wanted
to take a check. I sit back

478
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.719
down and I look at the screen. I was listening to a YouTube video

479
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.679
meditation and I always have subtitles on
because my hearing is just not one hundred

480
00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.159
percent. And even though I wasn't
looking at the me meditation, my subtitles

481
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.079
are still on because I always have
it on And in the subtitle it said

482
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.159
Hi, I'm Mark, and I'm
like, what, I know, who's

483
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.639
telling you this? And I reversed
the video like twenty seconds and I'm waiting

484
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.000
for the woman in the meditation to
say, Hi, I'm Mark, and

485
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.159
she doesn't say it, but yet
I see in the subtitles, Hi I'm

486
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.960
Mark, and I'm like, what, how is this thing? And then

487
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:30.239
I went to a reiky session and
the reiki master asked me, Who's Mark?

488
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:37.880
Is there? More? No?
No, that was it? And

489
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.639
then the YouTube video. I was
like, you know, that's cool,

490
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.360
like I believe you, but my
brain is like, well, you know,

491
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:46.880
they messed up subtitles all the time. But the reky thing is like,

492
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.199
come on, yeah. That that
confirmed it for me too, because

493
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:52.559
I I thought so too. I
was like, ah, it's just a

494
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.599
subtitle and you know whatever. But
when she said it, my jaw just

495
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:02.679
dropped because I was like, oh, so this is real? Then yeah?

496
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:08.199
Yeah, And that is what started
my connection to them. And something

497
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.840
that I've learned along my journey is
that as you grow in your own spiritual

498
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:20.280
journey, you actually get assigned different
spirit guides for different moments in your life,

499
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.159
and Mark was one of my beginning
spiritual guides. He's not one of

500
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:29.920
mine anymore though. I've now aligned
with high vibrational guides, and I love

501
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.159
Mark and I miss Mark, but
that is part of the journey, and

502
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.559
that's something they told me, so
I wouldn't be upset or anything like that,

503
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:38.920
but it's part of the journey.
So what do you think spiritual guides

504
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:45.079
are like? Like, literally,
I think they're just it's just energy basically,

505
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:50.639
but they're very, very high in
vibration. So to me, spiritual

506
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:55.039
guides are in energy and entity that's
very high in vibration. They have an

507
00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:01.960
amazing understanding of not only your personal
journey and your lifetime, but life overall.

508
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.320
They can understand the past, the
present, and the future. I

509
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:14.320
personally believe that spirit guides can be
a loving ancestor, they can be an

510
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.760
archangel, they can be different masters. I guess you could think of it

511
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:23.840
like this, if I wanted to
really pursue becoming a musician, a spirit

512
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:28.320
guide that would then be assigned to
me is someone who's also a musician to

513
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.840
help me through And something that I've
done when I became a life and energy

514
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:36.000
coach, there was a lot of
new things I had to learn, and

515
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.239
I would just ask them, you
know, sign me a spirit guide who

516
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:43.599
understands this, so they can help
me understand it better. And that's something

517
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.000
I always do. I think it's
something that we should all do. But

518
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.800
at the end of the day,
they're spiritual beings who want to help us.

519
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:55.159
They're literally just love and light and
positive energy, and some of them

520
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.880
are masters in certain subjects and then
you can call on them to help you

521
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.960
understand that subject. Yeah, wow, that's profound. I like that.

522
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.519
It's like, you know, I
definitely believe in angels or a lot of

523
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.239
people. This is coming from someone
who grew up as a subject in the

524
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.920
uful world. Like I've noticed a
lot of people get offended by the word

525
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.280
angel. It's too religious for them, and that's fine. Like to me,

526
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.159
angel doesn't have to be so religious. To me, it just means

527
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.440
like there are beings that come from
beyond. They always look like light when

528
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.800
I see them and the people around
us, and they're they're helping out,

529
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.840
you know. Like I definitely believe
in angels. I definitely believe that there

530
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.760
are higher entities that come back and
guide us and we don't always necessarily see

531
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.840
them. Sometimes it's like thoughts,
or it's like that whisper that is from

532
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.559
your conscience, or you know,
like it just resonates with me. Yeah,

533
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.519
I agree. I don't have any
problem with the word angel because I

534
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.519
think in a way they are angels. And how someone wants to use our

535
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.519
man made language to describe something that
our man made made language can never truly

536
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:05.960
describe doesn't bother me. Like we
we can only point to the truth,

537
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.679
we can't even vocalize it. I
don't believe growing up in the UFO my

538
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.719
dad and I always say the UFO
world. It's like how we describe the

539
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.599
people out there who are like fanatical
about UFO knowledge. Everybody's talking about it

540
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.360
now, but it wasn't like this
back in two thousand and eight, twenty

541
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:22.920
nine, ten, etcetera, etcetera, Like when our documentary first came out

542
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.880
and like not everybody was talking about
aliens. It's a very niche group of

543
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.760
people that would reach out to us
on Facebook or you know, just like

544
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.119
online, people that weren't even accepted
day to day in their communities. But

545
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.320
it was a following, it was
a thing, and it's it's very very

546
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:47.039
scientific, atheistic, no spirituality.
You know, it's like super fringe.

547
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.679
It's all part two. The Martian
and and Omega zendon B who comes from

548
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:58.039
you know, the Karelian, Karelian
couger from then they have all these names.

549
00:39:58.079 --> 00:39:59.800
I mean, I swear to God, like I'm making stuff off,

550
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:04.480
but like really that's how it is. And my dad came out talking about

551
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:08.559
angels and like we were mocked.
We were like we were we were not

552
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.559
treating worse, worse than mocked,
honestly, Like oh yeah, yeah,

553
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.320
I'm like that's that's you know,
it doesn't matter. All that's old history.

554
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.400
But my point is I've I've just
I've noticed that there has been a

555
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.599
pushback to to the word angel in
these communities. And I think, you

556
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.719
know, we call it what it
is. Yeah, yeah, I think

557
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.960
for me growing up, I went
to Catholic school then a Jesuit college,

558
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.960
and my mom was talking about angels. Oh my god, since I could

559
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.719
remember, I mean she since,
I mean, I would be in my

560
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.400
room and she's like opened the door
to Jesus, let him in, and

561
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.719
I was like, who coming in
my room? Get him out? Yeah,

562
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:53.280
boys, the door is blocking him
I think you could probably get through

563
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.440
it. Every religious classic she ever
taught, she's like opened the door to

564
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.000
Jesus. But the one thing she
would always do. Her class always loved

565
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:06.599
her because she would tell angel stories
to everybody and even to me growing up.

566
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.800
And that's why I've been so receptive
to angels and angel guidance and spirit

567
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.880
guides. I use them interchangeably.
I don't care. Yeah, if you're

568
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.599
helping me, I love you.
That's great. Yeah, that's what I

569
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.920
think. I don't really care,
you know. So it was just I've

570
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.280
always been receptive to it, and
I think that I don't know. I

571
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.000
think people just get so lost in
the three D sometimes and it really can

572
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.960
limit you from going beyond it.
Maybe people are scared, or it's new,

573
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.559
or it's weird. But I think
if we can just let go a

574
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:46.000
little bit of our egoic mind trying
to process everything and put it in its

575
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.840
neat and tidy folder, we can
actually gain so much more information. How

576
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:59.199
do you suggest we do that?
Definitely by being curious instead of thinking that

577
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.119
we already have the answers. I
think that there's this whole thing where you

578
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.880
can either think you have this mastermind, and you know everything already and you

579
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.079
know how to connect the dots.
But I really think the best mindset is

580
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.800
a beginner mindset, and that's what
I like to always have. I'm always

581
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:21.280
learning something new, and there's so
much more that I have no idea about

582
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.239
than I know. There's so much
more for me to learn that I'm just

583
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:31.239
scratching the surface. And I think
that if we can instead go into rooms

584
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:37.119
having our mind a little bit cracked
open with curiosity. You don't have to

585
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:42.960
agree with them, but at least
being curious that maybe something else could be

586
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.800
true, maybe I don't know it
all yet, and we can unattach from

587
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.760
our fears. I think that's how
we can do it, simply curiosity.

588
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.920
I mean, I think this is
so basic, But I think about me.

589
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.199
After I went through a breakup.
I was super codependent. I had

590
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.000
no identity besides being a girl friend, and I had to then become curious

591
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.760
about my own physical self. I'm
like, who am I? What am

592
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.760
I supposed to do with my life? I had a try yoga, I

593
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:14.760
tried reading new types of books,
and because I was open to having curiosity,

594
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.719
I was able to discover and create
a new beginning. But if I

595
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.400
wasn't curious, I would still basically
have no identity and just have latched onto

596
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:28.519
some other guy whoever was knocking at
my door. But curiosity opens a door

597
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.719
to yourself rather than just having to
attach onto a new institution, a new

598
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:37.119
guy, a new idea. So
curiosity I like that. It's also like

599
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.679
very empowering. I feel like,
you know, just being online, you

600
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:47.119
know generally and sort of keeping tabs
on, like spiritual things, how people

601
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.639
post about it, people that follow
us, falling back, or you know,

602
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.639
just people I followed. In general, I've noticed a vibe in the

603
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:59.719
spiritual community that is can sometimes be
pretty dark and pretty perverse, like there's

604
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:05.440
no consequences to our actions, just
you know, like nihilistic. Yeah,

605
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.639
and like that's that's something I really
appreciate about your angle. It's like,

606
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:14.960
you know, stop the stop the
victim mentality, do the work. Yeah.

607
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.639
To me, you know, I
had someone comment that I was like

608
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.599
guilty women or something, and to
me, it's like, I don't see

609
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.400
it that way. I said,
Okay, you can perceive it however you

610
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.519
wish. I perceive this as I'm
taking back my power and if I take

611
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.800
total responsibility over my life. I
can change it because I know if I

612
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.800
got myself here into a situation I
don't want to be in, I can

613
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.199
also get myself out of here.
But if I am to say the world

614
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.199
got me here, how am I
supposed to find a path out from my

615
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.239
current circumstance? You know what?
I think that probably is? I don't

616
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.760
know. I can think back to
times in my life where I was very

617
00:44:54.840 --> 00:45:02.199
sensitive and quite frankly pressed, you
know, just in a really negative kind

618
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:09.599
of spiral, and I found myself
reacting to positivity in a negative way.

619
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.400
It was really strange, I like, at least in the in the sense

620
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.800
of somebody trying to like pep me
up or or give me like a pep

621
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.639
talk, and like you know it's
gonna be okay, just you know you

622
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.960
can do it. You gotta put
the work in. But you got that

623
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:30.280
kind of stuff would like send me
way deeper spiraling. And a lot of

624
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:37.880
times I feel like when people feel
like that, their their snap reaction is

625
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.719
just to lash out and try to
make others feel, you know, kind

626
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.239
of bad like they do. And
I mean, what you're doing is inherently

627
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:53.519
only positive, Like you know,
your your your message is so empowering and

628
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.880
inspiring, Like that's my favorite part
of doing what we do is just making

629
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:07.480
people feel like they can take care
of themselves and you know, helping people

630
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:12.239
get to that point where they're like
they have a positive outlook on themselves.

631
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.400
And yeah, that's all you're doing. Like somebody lashing out because of that

632
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:22.440
is is they're just unfortunately they're about
it. Yeah they're and honestly, thank

633
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:28.400
you, thank you, And I'm
okay with being someone's trigger. I actually

634
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:32.000
invite it. I want to trigger
you because you're talking to someone who I've

635
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.079
been through the freaking ringer. Okay, you're talking to someone who was on

636
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.119
sleeping medication, anti anxiety medication.
I've been there. I know how it

637
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.719
works. I know how badly we
are addicted to our own emotional story.

638
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:49.920
I know how badly we get addicted
to our self pity, the circumstances and

639
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.840
the dynamics that keep us stuck.
I get it. I was once fighting

640
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.480
for my own misery too, and
I like it better where I am now.

641
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.719
And if it wasn't for other people
triggering me so badly into saying I'm

642
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.599
in so much pain, I literally
have no other option but to change my

643
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.320
whole entire life. I wouldn't be
here. So if I am your trigger

644
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:15.239
and I get you upset, I'm
okay with that because I know that there's

645
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.280
a bigger plan here and that's going
to serve you in some way. And

646
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.519
my soul probably has some sort of
contract with your soul that I'm going to

647
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.840
make you mad today and that's okay
with me. Well, it's like the

648
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.599
personal trainer, you know, Like
you sign up with a personal trainer,

649
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:34.599
you go to the gym and they
kick your fucking ass. Yeah, you

650
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.199
know it's not comfortable. Yeah,
And like I can't speak for us or

651
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.280
how people react to us, but
like in your case, you're you're clearly

652
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:47.280
getting people messaging you. It's you're
doing something you know, like but it's

653
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.960
not the physical, it's spiritual whatever
whatever you're saying, whatever you're doing is

654
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.239
is. Uh. When I used
to go to Bible camp, or not

655
00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:00.920
Bible camp, but like Bible studies
in college, something was spoken to me

656
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.119
by one of the like youth ministers
that change my life. And it's not

657
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:07.159
even in reference just to the Bible. It's just period in all of life.

658
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.920
Iron sharpens Iron. You know what
I mean, you're being like Iron.

659
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.119
You know, if people just look
at the same comfortable shit every day

660
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:19.800
and never try to grow, they're
never going to get any sharper. Yeah.

661
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.639
And unfortunately with growth, I mean, it takes something tougher than you

662
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.800
are to kind of sharpen you up. So it really is a good thing

663
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.840
what you're doing. It's okay if
people get offended that, yeah, you

664
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.000
know, they they just haven't figured
it out yet. Yeah, Yeah,

665
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.440
I think it's It's interesting because I
was thinking about it today. I really

666
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.719
love talking about magnetic energy, which
is basically embodying a state where you don't

667
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.800
have to chase anything, but instead
you attract the best timeline, the best

668
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.679
people, the best opportunity. And
one magnetic behavior that I think we should

669
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.840
all adopt is being okay. Not
being understood by other people and being okay.

670
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.719
Actually hardest for me cc Oh,
well, you know what. That's

671
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.360
probably because of how you grew up. Though. Remember what you told me

672
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.480
on the phone, and it like
blew my mind. You realize, I

673
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:10.440
tell you you said every time that
I listen to your show, you want

674
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.920
to say it, Yeah, you
would say something along the lines I know

675
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.199
this sounds crazy or something like that, like this might sound crazy, but

676
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:24.159
and I would always smile to myself
because I understood why you were saying that

677
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:29.159
you were for con traumatized. So
now you have to have this almost a

678
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.360
disclaimer of Okay, I'm gonna say
something, and I'm probably gonna have some

679
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.480
sort of reaction, but I'm just
gonna try to protect myself and also trying

680
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.079
to make you comfortable with the words
I'm about to say. And for me,

681
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:43.039
I grew up differently. I grew
up trying to be as different as

682
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:49.360
possible. And it's still, though, something that you have to practice because

683
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.480
I'm still social being. I want
acceptance of my peers and my family and

684
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.760
all those things. But I think
that, as you're probably noticing now,

685
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:04.280
and as I've noticed through creating content
that's in alignment with me, once you

686
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:09.559
taste how good it feels to be
in your authentic energy, the opinions of

687
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.280
others start to fade away and they
start to matter less. But we value

688
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:21.239
other people's opinions a lot more when
we're not happy in our own circumstance.

689
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:27.599
Already, damn she preaching y'all.
Hey, you brew that's the hardest thing,

690
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.599
you know, Like just people are
mean. People are really honestly vicious

691
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.239
and hateful, and like some of
the things that have been said about us,

692
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.800
you know, we're drug addicts,
were psychotic, schizophrenic, liars,

693
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.519
demon possessed, like you name it. Just because we've come out saying we

694
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:51.639
see things right, you know,
and like here it is twenty twenty three,

695
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:55.000
we're still standing by it, you
know, like talking about I don't

696
00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:00.079
know. It's like people are cruel
and it stays with you. We can

697
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.559
say all day, like I know
that that their opinions are untrue and they

698
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.800
don't matter, but the reality is, it takes a long time to heal

699
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:14.480
all that negative shit out of there. And like especially when it's still coming

700
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:16.679
at you. It's not like it's
it's gone after, it's less now,

701
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:20.960
but still it's it's still there,
still coming at you. And I think

702
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.760
that for me, it's something I
would practice with every time I made a

703
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.079
decision, because I'm coming from the
point of view not the same story as

704
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.920
you, but more so I was
codependent in relationships. I had really bad

705
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.880
anxious attachment and I was always this
kind of people pleaser, So I came

706
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.119
from that angle, and what I
started to have to do is bring to

707
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:45.239
the forefront of my mind every single
time I made a decision, until it

708
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.079
became like my second skin. I
was asking myself, how is this actually

709
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.920
making me feel? Is this actually
making me happy? Is this making me

710
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.480
feel excited? Do I feel aligned
in my purpose? And the more we

711
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.000
practice asking ourselves how does this feel, the less we're worried about how is

712
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.360
someone perceiving me? And it's a
practice. Wow, I just had a

713
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.599
realization. But it seems to me, like all of your spiritual practice that

714
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:14.800
you're regularly doing it, it seems
like the secret sauce as you're really just

715
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.199
connected to your subconscious mind. Like
at the end of the day, like

716
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.719
on paper, you know, if
I had to say, like what what

717
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:22.559
what makes CC so special? Why
is she so this or that or the

718
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.360
other? I think you're really just
connected to your subconscious mind. Have you

719
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:30.719
ever thought about that or realized that. I try to befriend my subconscious mind

720
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:35.639
because I want us on the same
page, and I'm all about reprogramming my

721
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:40.119
subconscious mind so I'm not just attracting
anything and everything. I think a big

722
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:45.239
realization for me when I was at
my lowest point, was Okay, I'm

723
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.480
both attracting consciously and subconsciously, and
I need to get us both allion.

724
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.760
Yeah. Well that's what happens though. It's we attract our life vibration,

725
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:59.159
yes, but then we forget to
mention that we also attract the exact opposite

726
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:04.119
because polarity, we're also attracting our
beliefs, and we're also attracting our shadow,

727
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.239
and we're also attracting exactly what we
hate. So when I realized that,

728
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.760
and I was seeing that in the
people I was meeting while I was

729
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:15.480
dating and the friendships I was creating. When I realized that, I said,

730
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:20.400
okay, no. And something that
I love to do is use THEATA

731
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.679
state to my advantage. So as
soon as I wake up and right before

732
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:28.480
I have my last thought before I
go to sleep, when our mind is

733
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.559
in theta waves, which means our
subconscious mind is wide open, I will

734
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:37.000
say a couple of my favorite,
absolute favorite affirmations just to get it in

735
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.639
that subconscious mind. It's like a
fast pass on a disney riding, right,

736
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.920
just like the past, your subconscious
mind, and I use it to

737
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:51.039
my advantage every single day and that's
a non negotiable behavior for me. As

738
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.079
soon as I wake up light before
I go to sleep, I'm saying these

739
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:59.679
positive affirmations. That's that's brilliant.
Because we've done entire episodes on this different

740
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.400
episod CC. I don't know if
we even talked about this. There's there's

741
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.559
just so much that you know,
obviously we haven't had time to communicate to

742
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:09.559
one another. But like a major
component of our story, it's all over

743
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.559
Dad's book. The first chapter kicks
off talking about this, and the last

744
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.800
chapter are about this. My dad
ended up getting involved with the people who

745
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.559
basically operated the psychics by program for
the Army and the CIA. I'm not

746
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.280
sure if you've heard of the movie
The Men Who Stare At Goats. Oh,

747
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.840
oh my god, yes, I
have that written down in my notes

748
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.679
to watch Son. Okay, but
the guy that the movie is based on

749
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.559
is like wrote the introduction to my
dad's book, very good friends, and

750
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.039
I got to tell you, like, especially with these people being involved at

751
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.000
the Monroe Institute. Are you familiar
with the Monroe's Tute. I've heard it

752
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.880
only on your podcast. Okay,
Well, my dad ended up going there

753
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:53.559
friends with basically like the people in
charge there, the board director members and

754
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:59.079
stuff like that. That's what they
do. They listen to special frequencies.

755
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:04.440
They get them into a theta wave
state and meditate. And it's not always

756
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.079
saying affirmations. Sometimes it's like the
affirmations are in the tracks, you know,

757
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.880
so like it's spoken to you.
Yeah, but like that's very profound

758
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.280
that you just out there in the
wilderness of New York talking to your spirit

759
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:22.039
guides and meditating and doing yoga and
with a hula hoop figuring out all this

760
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.440
high level shit. That's a perfect
description of me right there. I'm not

761
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:34.519
even kidding. There are people like
me and us and by extension, Nick

762
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.960
and Alex because they have crazy experiences
too, you know, they see things

763
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.199
and they've met cool people in all
this street. There are people like us

764
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.679
who have boom lights flicker from another
dimension and they're like, what's up,

765
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.039
motherfucker. You know, you gotta
go tell your story. And then the

766
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:52.039
government knocks on our door and they
study us and then them in Roe's You

767
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.199
know, people, things are just
handed to me. Not knowledge is just

768
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.920
constantly being handed to me from some
forces that I can't understand. And then

769
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.159
there are people like you who out
there on your own, you just figure

770
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:05.519
out all this shit because you're listening
to your inner voice and it's coming to

771
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.960
you so clearly. Yeah, as
opposed to most people, I'm very impressed

772
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:12.400
by your knowledge. I just have
to say that, like, I'm very

773
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.320
impressed by your spiritual knowledge. Thank
you so much. I was thinking also

774
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:20.280
about this today, but if I
could this is such a weird thought,

775
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.119
but I was in my closet and
I was thinking, if I could email

776
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:27.239
every single human being on the planet
every single day, I would say the

777
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.159
same exact sentence, which is the
pain is the portal, And I would

778
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:34.960
just repeatedly say that over over and
over again. Because I'm not kidding you,

779
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:40.719
every single painful experience I've ever went
through was the best thing that has

780
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:46.679
ever happened to me because it has
taught me literally everything. My pain every

781
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:51.000
single time, there's never not been
a time this has happened. Every single

782
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.039
time my skin feels like it's crawling, my heart's being ripped out of my

783
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:58.599
chest. I'm telling you, it
leads me to the exact thing. The

784
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.519
nature completely molds to what I need, and I find the exact teaching.

785
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.679
I need my spirit guides tell me
exactly what I need to do. I

786
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.960
learn how to do something new,
how to harness my energy. I learn

787
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.519
about subtle energies when it comes to
dating, and then I just simply take

788
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:15.639
that and teach it to other people. It is my pain, though,

789
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:21.960
that has been my greatest teacher.
And I think there's something to say about

790
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.119
our own darkness. I'm one of
those people who says, baby girl,

791
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:30.280
let's dance with our darkness, because
our darkness will teach us things that the

792
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.880
light could never And that's just a
truth. Your darkness will lead you deeper

793
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.599
and further than your light can show
you. Eventually, you will love that

794
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.000
darkness to the light, but it's
going to take you to places that the

795
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.280
light doesn't even know exists. Well, there's a lot of symbolism behind that,

796
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:47.199
Like it's like yin yang, you
know, like in the light,

797
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.320
there is that little kernel of darkness, but then in the darkness there's that

798
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:52.480
little kernel of light. And when
you really think about it, most of

799
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:58.199
these experiences I'm talking about, like
the paranormal UFO type higher consciousness experiences,

800
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:00.719
them happen at night, at least
in my experience, which is like,

801
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:05.800
you know, ground zero for all
this disclosure stuff going on other people,

802
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:07.880
I don't know, maybe there're having
lots of daytime experiences. I've had few

803
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.840
compared to the majority. And also
you have all this esoteric symbolism like owls.

804
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.960
Owls are always this divine messenger of
the gods, and like even Zeus's

805
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.320
daughter Athena, you know, the
owl or Minerva, the owl of wisdom.

806
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.599
Right, it's always this owl symbolism. It's this creature that lives in

807
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.400
the night, but its eyes are
bright and it can see the truth in

808
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.440
the darkness. It's illuminated with knowledge
that other creatures of the night can't perceive.

809
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.599
You know, there there is there
is truth to be gleaned, or

810
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:42.840
there's light to be gleaned from the
darkness of night. The Lady came at

811
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:49.639
night, you know, period darkness
doesn't have to be evil. My my

812
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.719
understanding of that is more so like
darkness is the illusion of not having truth

813
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.519
or light. But you know,
those with those with eyes like an owl

814
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:00.159
or you know, like an open
third I or whatever, who has the

815
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:05.400
intuition and the knowledge to perceive there
is light to be found in the darkness.

816
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.320
I think you are absolutely correct.
Yeah, I was gonna reference.

817
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:10.960
I was about to say, yeah, I was just listening to this podcast.

818
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:16.519
It was your po and you were
basically talking about how like your soul,

819
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:21.840
you know, is under contract,
it chooses the body that it wants

820
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.920
to come into. But you were
also talking about how the whole purpose of

821
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:32.000
us incarnating into this physical three D
realm is because without it, we wouldn't

822
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:37.239
be able to appreciate the light.
You know, we wouldn't. We wouldn't

823
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.639
have any frame of reference. It's
like if it's just you said, oh,

824
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:45.559
there was this amazing quote that you
said about heaven. Gosh, I

825
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.639
wish I could remember it, but
it was essentially like you can't Oh yeah,

826
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.920
it was you can't learn in heaven. You can't learn lessons in heaven

827
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:58.519
because it's all good all the time. You know, we incarnate here,

828
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.920
we accept the dark this willingly so
that we can appreciate the light. That

829
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:07.679
shit is beautiful. Oh my god. Now that's on a period. Yeah,

830
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:14.679
that's a period. I love that, No, absolutely, And I

831
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:19.559
just think it's so important that you
know, if I came all the way

832
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.000
to planet Earth then incarnated as a
freaking human. I need to get out

833
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:27.599
what I can get out of this
experience. I need to like fully throw

834
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:32.440
myself into it. And part of
that is experiencing not just this positivity,

835
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:38.800
but also that lower vibrational energy,
that negativity. But it's not feeling.

836
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:44.360
A negative emotion is not a negative
experience if you actually just feel it,

837
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.239
learn from it, and release it, That in itself is actually a positive

838
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:52.719
experience. That is being a positive
bitch. You're exploring a new vibration,

839
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:58.960
a new frequency, and learning from
it. Facts. Everybody needs to aspire

840
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:06.760
to be a positive bitch. We
are all babes in touch with what was

841
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:12.840
it again, connection with herself?
That is all of us. It's so

842
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.400
at least we should aspire to be
bitches. Are we honorary positive bitches?

843
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:28.559
We're gonna keep you on speed dial? I'm and um yeah, I mean,

844
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:32.320
is there anything like if you if
you had a camera on you right

845
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.159
now, what you do but a
different one, a different camera, and

846
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.880
it was like projecting to the entire
earth. You already said, Pennies,

847
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:44.719
the portal, so that our best
thing I've ever heard. I'm gonna get

848
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.920
that tattooed on my face, like
that's okay, I'm not gonna lie.

849
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:52.119
That was pretty gas. Well,
we'll do a different question. If you

850
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.480
had one spiritual practice that you wish
that you could teach to all of humanity,

851
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:01.480
what would it be patients? Honestly, patience with yourself to actually learn

852
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:07.559
what it is you're trying to transcend
and what you're trying to encode, because

853
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:13.400
you have to remember you've been a
certain way for x amount of years,

854
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.599
which is probably most of your life, because when do we start learning,

855
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:22.360
it's pretty much when we're an adult. If you've been encoding a certain way

856
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.559
of being for so long, it's
going to take time to then encode a

857
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.719
new way of living. You need
to have patience for all of the energies

858
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:37.480
to correspond with one another, to
be woven together, and to transcend your

859
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:42.960
older versions of yourself. I love
having a funeral for all the older versions

860
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.960
of myself. I kiss them goodbye
every single day. I'm like, I

861
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:53.199
love you, yeah, bye,
love you, thank you for everything exactly.

862
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.159
And I think that it doesn't have
to be like, oh my god,

863
01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.440
I'm losing this part of myself.
I'm like, okay, bye,

864
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:05.039
maybe you'll back later. I don't
know and having patience with learning new versions

865
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.599
of you and having patients, knowing
that you have to learn new ways of

866
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:13.679
living and it doesn't happen overnight,
and it's not supposed to because who goes

867
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:15.440
to a movie just to see the
ending. You want to see the whole

868
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:22.079
movie. Live your life, enjoy
each day, and just enjoy being a

869
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:28.159
human. Honestly, that's it.
That's a very great, um closing out

870
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:30.480
point. I would say, Cec, you're amazing. Um, I hope

871
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:34.280
you enjoyed your experience with us.
I did. Thank you so much for

872
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:40.320
having me on. This is amazing. Thank you brother podcast. We definitely

873
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:44.519
got to have you on again in
the future. UM. So you've seen

874
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.079
the show, so you have a
suggestion. Okay, this is going to

875
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:51.599
be the first episode where we don't
say bye guys. We're gonna say bye

876
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.920
bitches. I love it by positive
bitches. We'll do that. I like

877
01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.760
that. I like that better.
I'm like, okay, let's do already.

878
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:11.079
Three do you one? Bye by
your back yard flitso house. The

879
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:27.880
send got so weird coming closer to
my hair, staystraight up like smiraling on

880
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:38.119
the inside of it. No one
knows. Man. Wow, it's come

881
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:57.320
iver Shine ain't can