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Yo, what's going on? Everybody. Welcome to a new episode of My

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Cannon Cast. I'm Canna, Dave, I'm groovy. On today's episode,

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we have special guests Josh, founder
and CEO of Fifth Age. Thank you

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for joining us today. Yeah,
guys, it's good to be here.

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Watched a bunch of the reviews.
Oh yeah, well we're going because they're

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mostly good. I'm saying, I
see the review come through, and that's

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like, that's why we're honored for
you to be here. I'm just waiting

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for the one where you guys like
one one out of Tanning. I'm gonna

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go back in my lab and just
start flipping tape. Do this. No,

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but seriously, like we've been seeing
you collab with like Ghostbuster Farms shout

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out like a dog house, like
a bunch of collaps high tech. We

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did some stuff with gold Kind Iliad
grow in, sant O Farms, Crunk

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Sewer is a new one, Voyage
Bloom which is an up and comer.

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Those guys are good old school organics. Jason, Yeah, actually we did.

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The story is hilarious. So so
I get introduced through my friend David

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g. Lh okay and uh and
basically I'm talking to Jason, talking to

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him a couple of times, like, yeah, you got to come out

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to the facility. I'm thinking he's
in the middle of nowhere, you know.

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It's like, yeah, sends me
the address. It's four blocks away

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from my facility, like like I
could like, legit, hit a golf

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ball and hit his building, dude. So I was just like it came

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by, and now you know,
we run their stuff and he's incredible.

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By the way, they're flowers,
unbelievable. Ultimately, we tried him in

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the High Times Cup last year when
we got on the bag and that's what

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turned us on to him. It
was really good, clean flowers, smoked

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good. I tastey all the way
through the rosin dumped and it's just like

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covered down the level three away the
sugar cones. Incredible and slapped to try

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that. Yeah, So yeah,
I've been seeing We're gonna jump in a

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little bit ahead. Ye's skill a
little background, I mean just a little

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bit like when where's fifth age?
Yeah, when the fifth Age start and

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where you guys located. So the
fifth Age started in man, I want

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to say, like may no,
no, no, no, no,

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fifth the age started in February last
year, twenty twenty two. Uh,

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we're big gas, big gases coming
back, by the way, big gas.

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They Yeah, that's awesome, dude. We know those carts and that's

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from the medical days back. Yeah, we were yeah, pretty good listening.

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If you're not familiar, they've been
around here, miss, yeah,

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because I saw it like five and
dime. Yeah, way back. Remember

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we did live ros and pens and
that was like our yellow our beat.

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Yeah. Yeah, we have a
high octane and all that stuff. Um

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but yeah, so waiting for hydrocarbon
to get approved that's a whole fucking debacle.

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But basically I was like, all
right, let's get into this rosin

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thing. I was like sixteen months
ago or something before the facility opened.

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Yeah, and um, I have
a tech background, like we talked about,

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I've been making equipment, you know, doing R and D processes for

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like a long time. Yeah.
Me and the team started to make a

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rosin. We were like, there's
a lot of holes in this right,

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Like the process you mean, yeah, it's just like a little bits like

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cumbersome. Like a lot of the
principles from hydrocarbon I like prost processing are

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super super similar, like just prescribing
terpenes like that being the whole beat,

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you know, and so we kind
of looked at it and we're like,

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all right, well this doesn't make
any sense. This doesn't make any sense,

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and you know your own way.
Yeah, how can we improve?

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How can we get like the whole
goal with any type of oil extraction?

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Real goal and actually just two one
extract it right? Pretty money? Yeah,

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the next podcast, I can bring
a machine in here. I can

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teach you how to extract like twenty
five minutes. Okay, But what the

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art comes in, like science and
art mixed, is basically how you post

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process. Like that's everything, like
how you treat the oil afterwards, because

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there's either solvents or water, got
to press it. And every time you

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like put forces or energy or you
affect it in any type of way,

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you're losing terpenes. You know,
they're like off gassing off it because they're

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just volatile. Right, So because
like the low tempts or is it just

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because that's the first to go well, any type of temperature. It's like,

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um, why do you smell something, right, like like cutting orange

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in half and smell it. Why
do you smell it? It's because it's

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particles are evaporating off of that Turpenes
are evaporating off that orange and they're going

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into your nose. Right. Yeah, the same thing's true with oil,

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except for it's like all exposed and
everything's really really volatile. So our whole

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deal is like, how can we
take it from the extraction to the final

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product without losing with losing the least
amount of product, like the least amount

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of turpians, And that is really
where you come in. So the Fifth

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Age comes from one I'm a Lord
of the rings nerd, okay, So

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it's basically it's like the fourth Age
was like the end of all that jazz,

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and like the Fifth Age, I
thought it was kind of cool.

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My friend came up with that.
Yeah, huge, and we're massive nerds.

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No, no shaving that at all, um. And then it also

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was like the fifth Age because we're
gonna we're ushering in new pieces of technology

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over time, and that's the new
age. Is when I was exactly what

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it's about. That's the true that's
the true thing behind it. So it's

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like we're gonna be bringing in over
the next year and a half, like

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specific pieces of technology that are gonna
like change the game, Like soon we're

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gonna be not using any water to
actually make our our bubble hash all so

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I thought it was just water and
yeah, so the water is just a

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carrier. It's like a medium you're
suspending and you're agitating. You're suspending the

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trick comes you filter them out with
any medium. Yeah. Yeah, we're

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just not going to use any water, No solvents, no nothing, just

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good old mechanics and physics. Got
a couple of things that work out in

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that one. So the other stuff's
coming fast because I faster. Actually it's

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here. That's the secret jars you
guys have. It's the first line off

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the new tech. That's these no, no, not us, the improvement

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of the other processes, the waterless
thing. I still have to stop making

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mistakes while I try to make it. But yeah, the goal is like

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hopefully mystery stuff we're not allowed to
know the name. But damn. So

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that comes from mid grade material.
Okay, it actually got kind of screwed

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up in transport, all right.
They didn't put it, they didn't put

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enough with something in it to keep
it the temperature. I wanted kind of

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thought out mid grade material, and
that couldn't tell that shit is fire delicious.

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That's that's all the process. There's
like barely any terbs. That is

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only a two hour dry process basically. Really yeah, So what I'd like

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to do is somewhere near the end
or whatever you guys have you guys have

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got a rig try towards the end. I was about to take one now

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now right now. My only my
only request is that five ten like four

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oh, I always do five hundred
at max, like at like say I

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got my puff stay strafed, you
know. Okay, that's the proper that's

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the proper tech for it. Man, I'm a melter. I don't want

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to like if yeah, that's what
I'd rather just click the fucker again,

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you know, and like get off
the rest, right, I just get

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the flavor and all the good show. Actually here, you want to put

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it on the Canic camera real quick? Yeah, and this is Rosin correct

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as we're looking at it. Yes, that is Rosin. Look at that

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gorgeous he pulled up towards the camera
a little bit. I mean, you

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can see how nice would contecture.
Look at that. It's beautiful, batter.

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You can see this like nice shine
to it even dude, I'm super

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I'm super hard on our product.
Like I'm really really hard on our product.

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Like I don't really think I've made
great batches, you know, just

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because I'm like always searching for this
thing I don't know to dab in here.

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I'm not even sure if it like
exists. I take this damn first.

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I have a dabty from earlier because
I love here's some of your product

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that you've done. Man, Like, we're just saying it is phenomenal.

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H Well, it's standard across the
board, you know, and that's why

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you said mid grade product. Like
we would have never known what any of

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the product because the quality you push
out is like a standard, you know,

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like for your own stuff, and
I appreciate that. Well, that's

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all processes, man like I said, that's all my team and like my

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you know, my past team,
everything all of us working together to kind

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of like this isn't like one man
show, by the way, but like

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all of us working together come together
with ideas to like try to make the

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best possible product. I'm just hard
on the product because I want to be

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like here all the time, and
it's just like the hardest on ourselves.

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You know yeah, yeah, you
know, you kind of sit there and

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you're like, uh, this probably
could have been a little bit better.

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That could have done this. So
does product so like I mean, I

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guess for all the listeners out there, especially because a lot of people are

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home pressing. I know he's home
pressed. Um does does the quality of

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the product matter as much? Because
it does? Okay, so you're saying

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even yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is this is my point where

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the process earlier is the current paradigm
of making rosin the process is like does

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not lend itself to preserving the thing
that makes rosin great. So the so

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there's a difference. Like um hydrocarbon
is a solvent based extraction. It's a

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non polar extraction, means it's only
polling non polar compounds off your plant,

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which is like a good portion of
them that there's water soluble and alcohol soluble

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terpens that you're not going to get
with solvent extraction. That is not an

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extraction. Rosin's not an extraction.
Bubble hash non extraction. It's a separate

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technically, but it's a separation process. That's really what is You're separating full

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old tricombe heads. You're not dissolving
them. You're not making like extractions like

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when you when you have a solvent
and you bring it in you you know,

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it washes and makes you remember high
school like I don't know it's high

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school maybe younger science classes. Like
sugar in water or salt in the water.

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Okay, salt, Yeah, salt
is a is a solution and the

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sugar is a mixture. Right,
it's being suspended. Right, So the

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solution the salt and water is what
you're doing with hydrocarbon or solvent based extracts.

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You're actually making a solution. Rosin
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it's a suspension. It's a mixture. It's sugar in water. Like if

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you if you leave it to its
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Right. I can put hydrocarbons and
oil together and a pressurized too, they'll

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stay there forever, you know.
So so basically what's going on the whole

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point of that is king full trichomheads, like full trichomheads with everything in it.

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You're not being selective like a solvent, so all the other terps.

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That's what makes rosin so much more
flavorful. In my opinion, that makes

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sense. This is coming from a
hydrocarbon boy who like made fun of rosin

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for like, well, I mean, coming from big gas that was definitely

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done different, but I was a
pH boy. It's funny because I've always

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considered an extraction, but I kind
of like that methodology that you're saying because

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it's a totally different process in the
sense of because you're not you're just kind

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of making it more compact, like
less separating the T and the It's about

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like the whole point of rosin,
especially about front end processes. How can

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I get the trichom heads isolated so
that when I press them out, I'm

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getting all those other terpeenes that I
wouldn't get with a solvent, Right,

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So that's why I like, I
don't know if you guys ever had like

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a pineapple or like a berry on
hydrocarbon and it doesn't taste like it,

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But then you get it with rosin, it tastes exactly like a real strain

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because all those other terpeens you're not
getting solveing basic stress. So it's interesting

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when we talk about it before,
when we said solve it, we thought

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that they were getting burnt off or
something in the process that was essentially changing

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the flavor palette. So like,
I mean not too far off. That

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does happen, That's right, that's
because it happens a lot. I mean,

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I'll be to me personally, That's
why I love rosin because when you

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just it tastes exactly like what the
plant does exactly, just minus that plant

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taste. That's the whole point of
rosin in my opinion. But the problem

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is is the process does not lend
itself to preserving all of that goodness on

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the way out. One, because
you put in a freeze driver for fifteen

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hours like vacuum temperature that it's gentler
than just naturally drying it, but you're

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still evaporating something for a long time, right, And then you have to

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take it over to a press where
you're heating the plates to you know,

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one hundred and thirty to one hundred
and sixty degrees fahrenheit right activating You can

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activate THHC at two hundred to twenty
right, so like you're getting that close.

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And then you're putting it under two
plates, pressurizing it through a filtrate

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and filtered bag, and then you
expect it to have all those terps.

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There's nothing more I hate than the
press. Like as soon as I get

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as possible, But as soon as
I can get rid of the press,

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you're going to see real product come
through because the terping tasks between the sift

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and the rosin. Like we're losing
a ton pressing a ton. You can

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smell it. The whole fucking lap
smells like cush every time we like press

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a single bag. Oh yeah,
you smell it when I when you're doing

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I'm pressing, I've pressed flour or
not. That's interesting because that smell is

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actually bad then for the product because
you're smelling it, but you're like,

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it means you're losing. That means
you're losing it. That's my whole lot

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of ters. Yeah, smooth,
losing a lot of terts. That'd be

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crazy. If you get rid of
the press, I'd be interested if you

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do. I wish I've been working
out the thing forever that's elusive. I'll

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tell you that. Yeah, I
mean definitely made from that. It sounds

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like you have that engineering mindset too, so like you're definitely the one that's

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going to be able to like figure
that out. If anybody, I certainly

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hope. So I would share that
one for sure, most of the most

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of the techne myself, for better
or for worse. But like that one,

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I would share, Well, you'd
be evolving the taste of everyone's rosin,

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you'd be improving rosin. I just
hate it so much that I just

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can't believe you're losing that much.
Like, so when you're testing, is

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the amount of terpenes that you're losing
that you're saying, Yeah, you're not

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losing TC or anything that's not going
to boil off. That's tough, ter

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that's hot, any like ratio or
like amount percent? Why is your Well,

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it depends on how you press in
the temperature, right, So if

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I go too high a pressure,
I'm gonna lose more this time, lose

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less that time. And I know
you do flour, I mean you do.

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It's all hash, right, it's
all pushed out. Yeah yeah,

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But even then it's like the point
is is like no more, let's like

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get rid of this thing. Like
if anyone's got an idea, you know,

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the fifth age official, give you
a fucking job, dude, you

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know, like that falled out right
here Josh Bright below Josh Mayo, please

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similar resume with with an example willing
to sign NDA. Yeah, yeah,

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but yeah, I mean realistically,
what this is, by the way,

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what this is about is this is
about our new dry process. Okay,

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so we're taking something that's taking about
fifteen hours most people some people pretty good,

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just six or eight. That was
two hours in the dryer, completely

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dry. I've an active water meter. There's no water left in that and

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there is okay, and this had
water in the extract. It wasn't because

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you lowered the process. Because I
mean essentially, if you had no water

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in it, wouldn't the whole process
be expedited? Like oh yeah, once

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I get rid of the water.
Yeah, that's a totally different ball game.

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So how are you drying it them
for two hours? Dryer in just

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two hours? And just two hours
and it's completely dry. Under point under

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point four three that was, which
is pretty low. I mean, flower

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is supposed to be under point six
five point six one. I was about

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to ask, I don't know the
numbers is a standards. So it's like,

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so it's aw active water and I
measure it with a water activity meter

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one being wet wet, and then
like point six five too, is like

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anything under that flour mold and all
that stuff can't grow. We go a

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little lower than that because we don't
want it like sizzling or anything. Well,

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I mean this might not be this
might be off off topic a little

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bit, but like you ever have
like the sound where it's like sick it

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pops. Is that water being left
over in the wax or is that sticon?

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Think that was like yeah, you
know, like oh, what's in

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this bautanees leftover? So I'm like
just going back to hydrocarbons. Yeah,

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I'm happy to be doing having this
conversation. Okay, So hydrocarbon definitely maybe

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okay, but what it could also
be is like, okay, do you

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guys know terpenes or hydrocarbons itsutane propane
all right, or hydrocarbons terpenes, most

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terpenes or hydrocarbons as well. There's
there's super the chemical structure is super similar.

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It's like interesting, the difference between
carbon atoms basically is what you get.

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So um, that sizzle could be
just like super high terpenes or somebody

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fucked up the purge processes. That's
what I not it was. I just

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didn't know, testing at five hundred
pm. Like, it's not it's not

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that it's it's not the beautane.
It's it's probably just super It mostly probably

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happens like sauce and shit. Yeah, yeah, again, it happens less

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with rosin. I just know,
I remember back in the day, you

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didn't get some dabs and what the
hell did I just do? What is

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it? So? Yeah, exactly, the somebody sucked or they made really

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really good shit. That's funny.
It goes one way or the other.

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Yeah, it's really bad or really
good. Yeah, either somebody has too

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much solvent or a ton of terps. There's you know, that's kind of

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the trade off there, you know. But with rosin, there's like a

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bunch of other stuff too, Like
nobody's getting fats and lipids all their rosin.

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I mean, there's a couple of
guys that are trying. I've seen

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the rosin from it. It's kind
of ugly, you know, and I

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don't trust it. And the guys
that are doing like the other fatless one

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is like they're distilling off terpenes and
then they're and then they're like pressing out

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the THHCA and then recombining them but
like missing this other whole host of things.

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We have seen that process where they're
separating and recombining. Again. I

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don't, I can't. I'm not
a scientist. But the flavor just tastes

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weird. Yeah, it's never they'll
be like, oh, here's sunset Sherbert

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and it's like it's not You're like, tastes like a pepper all to get

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the fat out. It is like
I'm smoking weed anyways. Man. It's

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not like it's there's not a carcigen
in there, you know. So it's

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like there's a little bit of everybody
who's you know, like, oh,

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I don't want any lipids in my
stuff, and it's like smoking a fucking

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Newport stuff more healthy. Yeah,
but there's a difference. Really. What

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it's about is like we don't want
pesticides, we don't want a ton of

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heavy metals, okay, and we
don't want your fucking solvent, right,

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get rid of those things everything else. We've all been smoking weed for how

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long a long you guys been smoking
weed? Eighteen so it's fourteen years,

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okay, Well, you know probably
have smoked a lot of fucking pesticide.

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Oh, all them clean and I
smoke. I don't even want to know.

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Yeah, that's my point. It's
like we're in the era where like

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we're getting clean cannabis. It's like
it's way cleaner, and stop complaining,

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you know. It's like it's like, now, just complain about flavor.

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I will complain about remediation. I
don't think you know what I mean,

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You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna throw
some bullshit and like that. That's rough,

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you know what I mean. But
you're not gonna catch me or any

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like any craft guys. Realistically,
they're really the ones worth. They're salid.

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They're not doing that ship. And
even then, if your stuff fails

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and you need to remediate it,
just send it to hydrocarbon because I say

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process process, the process in the
rosin, but processing in the hydrocr Yeah,

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it'll only be good to go.
Amadible is just making something that you

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know they can can process and all
that crack and go it. Yeah,

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but it's just I don't know,
do you guys do? And you hydra

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like fifth Age, you guys are
just rosin right, Like, so I

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split the brands for a while,
it was gonna be big, big gas

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and it was gonna be big gas
rosin so I actually this was on marketing

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by the way, I see you. You we talked about the marketing company

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work for and all that. But
uh, it's like I wouldn't market a

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car the same way I would market
a motorcycle for the most parts, well,

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the two different markets. I mean, I know you're saying car like

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hydrocarbon versus I just think they're two
separate type of like still oil smoker's just

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a little bit different demographics in my
opinion. And also I big gas,

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I want to market a different way. The fifth age has like a purpose,

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right, fifth age is like me
trying to me and my team trying

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to like perfectly capture a tricome off
a grower from a grower fresh rows and

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two us perfectly capture that tricome and
then give it to my consumer perfect like

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you're getting everything that the grower intended
for that craft, that high level craft.

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By the way, it might be
fucking impossible, but I want to

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you know what I mean. Like, so it's like no, but I

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like that because again not to assume, but that makes sense because then now

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you can do whatever with a big
gas is it is it value your goal

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with big gas. Big gas is
gonna be a lot of just no distolate

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straight up like live reson in the
car, a little bit of cured reson

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in the car because a lot of
them in the market. And that's gonna

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be. That's just my car company
for not saying they won't make live ReSm

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like dabbabble oil le make some of
that Market's kind of weird for that right

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now. But I just want to
get a big gass is just about putting

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super gassy like fire stuff out.
That's like my party string. Like I

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I personally am not like I wouldn't
want to go out with a rosin pen

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as much as I want to go
out like a live rosin pen. I

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don't know why they flow better,
they hit better in my opinion. Yeah,

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actually, I was gonna say,
it's more like for me when I'm

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out partying and like I might have
a drinker. I'm I'm partying right so

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like I'm in a different mood.
I'm smoking joints. Like if I'm at

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home, that's when the rosin's more
for tasting. Yeah, it's my morning,

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Like we hit me and him say
whenever we have both will dab the

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ros in the morning and then when
I'm already high, like they you just

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do the other ship. You know. Yeah, it's not that it's bad.

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It's just that flavor. Yeah,
it's like still gets me high.

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That's the whole thing. That's like
to me. That's like the it's a

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difference between like a good restaurant,
like a good one and a Michelin Star

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restaurant. You know what I'm saying, Like you get that good in between

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there um not saying that the restaurant
wasn't good, you know. Oh I

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hear you though, if you get
a tasting menu at a two start.

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One of my old roommates used to
like cook at a Michelin Star. It's

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just like crazy the different levels because
the pictures and the ship. He would

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I would talk about it, like
dude, what I would eat like a

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burger, you know, and he's
talking about this encrusted with this, with

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this soap with this, and like
whatever. Even then everything's in trouble butter,

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But I'm not complaining about at all. But it's just like food.

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You guys said it earlier. It's
about flavor, and you gotta rose on

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sbout flavor. It's the same thing, yeah, the same thing with like

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the difference. Uh. I see
hydrocarbon being more like um, let's say,

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Budweiser, I want to do that, the hydrocarbon oil like that.

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But it's like bells, you know, and then you got your like four

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fifty Norris like you're good one,
you're super good ones. It's like the

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wine differences, right. Yeah.
I mean I like your restaurant analogy because

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there's tons of restaurants that are great
that aren't mission the start, but they

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have amazing food. It's still gonna
have good product, but it's like you're

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not trying to like necessarily only folks
on the best of the best. You

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know. You're also like this is
you know, I'm processing to make money.

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You know too, it's a business, you know. And big Gas,

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I mean, if it's anything like
it used to be. That was

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like one of my favorite cards,
which is funny, bro, Bro,

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I'm telling you, like the what
I understand now, I keep saying that

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what we understand about making oil from
here to from then till now for a

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big gas is completely different, completely
different. The cards that we're gonna be

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producing are gonna be amazing. So
really excited, no dislip full like full

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spectrum, really good, really turpy. The only problem is the fucking hardware,

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because every that's the hardest part because
that ship just leaks. Yeah,

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I feel bad because guy, a
lot of guys are getting a bad name,

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like other cards leak and all that. It's like, it's not them,

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it's a hardware company. They're actually
if I get a leaky cart,

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I'm gonna be pissed because I spent
some money on it, but I'm gonna

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be like, damn, that was
probably gas. So explain to me,

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like exwain to everyone here listening,
why is that a good thing? Well,

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it means that sticky abundance of Turpin's
okay, So like that cart cannot

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hold on to that liquid in there. It gave either the carts fucking trash,

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right, but most of them are
pretty good, you know, but

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it was so thin when you heated
it up that stuff. The closer you

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get to this to water, I
just like tired, like I put it

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there, and so the closer you
get to this, but not taking anything

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away with it is the goal because
then you're talking like if it's if it's

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super fluid, all right, you
really really want. That's a ton of

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terps. I don't know. I'm
a turps guy, like I could think

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we've seen in the terps always go
to the top. They're like that dark

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or darker liquid that's like I don't
know if it is it lighter that rises

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the top right later. Well,
it's oxydization, so the colors oxydization.

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It's it's it's pretty mixed. It's
a solution. It's pretty mixed up.

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But they won't they won't step right
too much unless someone did like a bad

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job at activating or whatever. But
the whole reason I want the fluid,

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I want it to be a good
fluid is I did my job really well

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because in my opinion, oil is
about extracting the most amount of terpenes out

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of your product, and like that's
the goal, at least my goal.

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Some people sell th HCA and they're
trying to get you highest, like super

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high. I'm trying to give you
a really good experience, you know,

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not that you don't want you stone
right, but I feel you though,

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because the higher t HC it always
never gets that that same terpenes, like

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you always lose terpeenes the higher teats. Yeah, well, I to a

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certain degree. Right, there's like
at about ninety two percent, Like once

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you start encroaching on ninety two percent
THHC, then you're encroaching in your turps

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and you start affecting them. Yeah, because I don't really see anything that's

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just like raw, like nobody took
anything out of it, Like, no

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one took anything out of it.
I don't see anything that's like a raw

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oil that's you know, over eight
nine ten percent unless they're like doing some

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chromatography and then or some shit,
you know, but just like raw extraction

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and good extraction, getting over ten
percent live resion pretty fucking impressive, you

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know. So ninety two ninety start
you starting croaching on those terpens like a

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little bit so, but also you
need you need terpenes. So like here's

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a here's a good topic. You
guys know what the you guys know what

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00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:30.480
the bioavailability of THHC is. I
no, no, you guys got that.

404
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.079
Got the Google machine on that you
can pull up real quick the internet.

405
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:40.119
Yeah, Google the bioavailability of THHC. Bio say it again, the

406
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:45.039
bioavailability of THHC. It's going to
come up to be the first thing it's

407
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:51.240
going to give you a percentage.
Uh. Oral biotability of THHC is six

408
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:56.319
percent plus or minus three percent of
oral consumption of food product and ten to

409
00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:00.920
twenty percent after consumption of cannabis.
Extract interest about it follow insulation, which

410
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:07.160
ranges from ten to thirty seven percent. So that's max. So every edible

411
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:11.279
you've eaten in ever in your life, Okay, we'll see you had one

412
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.079
hundred milligram edable. You're like,
oh, I got super roasted off one

413
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:18.000
hundred milligram edible. Now you didn't. You got super roasted off like sixteen

414
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.960
milligrams. So your body you can
break down x amount percent of that.

415
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.160
So if you're eating five milligrams,
you're intentionally telling me you're eating like a

416
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.279
milligram. And those people are like
wow, Because I have people that'll be

417
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.119
like, well five milligrams is enough
for me. Oways like wait a second,

418
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.319
Well that's the thing too, is
well everybody scales off to see ten

419
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.799
to thirty seven percent of that Hunters, you're actually talking ten to thirty seven

420
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.960
milligrams at max, and a's at
max max. Now there are guys who

421
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.640
do like nano multiplication. Drop right
now, man and like and surfactants and

422
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:49.960
all that shit. They mix them
up and you get you get edible.

423
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.799
It says like micro fluid eyes or
whatever. The ultra homogenized what do they

424
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.759
want to call it? Right?
Yeah, and that'll allow your body to

425
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:02.160
process it more effectively. Okay,
So with the presence will surfacted, which

426
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:06.440
basically just makes like a polar compound
attracted a non polar compound. Your body

427
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.400
will absorb more of it because your
body is an anqueous environment. Okay,

428
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.720
same thing goes with smoking it,
same thing goes. I don't care you

429
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.240
fucking injected. I mean the same
same shit. Realistically, what I don't

430
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:21.960
recommend doing. No, no,
this is injection. Like check out the

431
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.680
TC like that. Don't do that. I'm just talking about it right out.

432
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:30.079
But I had this idea because I
was listening right, I was like,

433
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.119
oh god, I hope we did
that will go viral for sure.

434
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.680
Okay, you guys want to skyrocket
the thing? Somebody boot up? Oh

435
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.720
yeah, just like what was that
one stuff that one famous Canna bumps?

436
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.759
Did you see that image when it
was online? I don't know if it

437
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:51.559
was real or not, but oh
I wish it was twenty Again, dude,

438
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:56.960
this is awesome. So man,
yeah, a little bit of energy,

439
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:04.680
maybe mix it, make a little
cordwn so so smoking some weed anyway,

440
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:11.240
So the whole the whole point,
the bio available thing is like great

441
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.839
generally getting so much of it.
The purpose of turpin's not the purpose,

442
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.640
but one of the great things about
turpenes and a lot of those other compounds

443
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:22.119
like fat compounds, fat flavonoids or
whatever, they can act as surfactans.

444
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.319
They can act as things that a
lot. You heard the entourage fact.

445
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:26.279
It's well, that sounds about to
say we're about just about to say the

446
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.160
entrage feck. We're a big,
big supporters of that because again, like

447
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.240
you said, sometimes you smoke some
weed that just tasted so good. It's

448
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.279
it's like twelve percent and I feel
higher. And then some shit that's like

449
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.000
thirty percent, but it tastes like
ass and it's dry, and I have

450
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.480
to take a sip of water every
two hits. So it's like that.

451
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.839
That's again we always talk about this, but THC is not a cell point,

452
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.480
the major cell point the way it
is for some sun shouldn't be here.

453
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.640
Here's the metric. I actually do
training with with bud tenders on this

454
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.000
stuff all the time. Really,
yeah, you want the most amount of

455
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.839
THHC with the most amount of turps
that you can get with a focus on

456
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.160
terms. Okay, so like three
plus percent is you're you're gonna be like,

457
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.279
oh, I want three or four
percent. Let's you have like a

458
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.319
flavor preference? Do you do your
thing? Right? Who am I to

459
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.240
tell you how to get your zoned
in on something? But you're right though,

460
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.279
like three to four percent in like
a fifteen twenty percent. He's like,

461
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.920
that's cool. That's what I would
just be looking what's this one,

462
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.359
three percent, three and a half
percent whatever, find all the threes and

463
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.559
fours and go, okay, who's
got the highest tac in here? And

464
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.480
that's what I want to buy?
All right? It's probably the most expensive

465
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:33.440
shit in the batch. But like
yeah, it's like if I can't open

466
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.920
your bag and smell it, what's
the fucking point? You know? So?

467
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.680
But yeah, all that entourage fact
you want terps. So like when

468
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.880
when I have carts that are seventy
percent, you know, when I got

469
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.640
like ten percent terpens in it?
Whatever? Right, Like I that to

470
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.920
me is going to like be more
effective to my consumer, all right than

471
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:57.880
just giving him like a ninety five
percent distill. It doesn't even get me

472
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.359
high. I swear I used to
do. The night I had the THHCA

473
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.240
stuff, the ninety nine percent stuff. I just kept jabbing and I'm like,

474
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.519
I don't think I'm getting there,
right, And then you go do

475
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.240
one dab of something batter and you're
just like fire, like a no.

476
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:11.599
And that was years ago. I
was like, what does that mean?

477
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.319
Now we get it really is a
big factor of like so many things when

478
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.480
you're oh, yeah, like I'll
be honest and some part of you know

479
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.920
good, or even the stuff that
looks good and then tastes like shit or

480
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.240
you know, like that's sometimes the
worst to me, where it looks good

481
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.599
it's got bag of people, but
then it doesn't. It looks everything like

482
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:32.960
why else would I be? I
mean, yes, I like getting high,

483
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.759
but after smoking for years, like
I want to smoke some shit that

484
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.119
tastes good. Yeah, Well that's
the thing. It's like, like I

485
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.519
said, I open your bag,
I don't smell. So if it doesn't

486
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:47.359
hit me in the face, something's
up, some something's wrong there, you

487
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.599
know, or you get that hay
smell. It's kind of like that generic

488
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.079
hay smell. I don't know a
lot of Hay brother, Yeah, a

489
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.880
lot of Hay I'm sure a lot
of you. I mean, I can't

490
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.079
imagine if people like Hey collab with
the especially see your ship that comes out,

491
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.039
you know, I do you know? I want to ask, is

492
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:08.200
there any strain that stuck out specifically
that like washed super good or just taste

493
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.599
it ridiculously good. I'm just any
of your favorite strains. So I was

494
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.759
gonna bring a ghost sample, but
I sold all of it Todays where so

495
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.240
we'll like, yeah, we did
an episode with them discounting. I tell

496
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:22.960
you, I can tell you where
it is. I hook it up.

497
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:30.759
Yeah we'll go. So there's a
couple growers in mind. Um, Candy

498
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:36.279
Jams from Ghostbusters. We did as
those Olympics collab. It's actually going to

499
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.640
be out on the market. We
want to wait for those ab boxes.

500
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.720
I don't want you to buy his
all boxes. An ad on on it,

501
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.079
right, and then you're like,
Candy Jams is everywhere, and it

502
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:45.359
was like fuck too, I'm sorry. You know I spend the money in

503
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.599
the box. You want the add
ons first, right, so um,

504
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.519
that's actually going on sale this next
drop next week. It's going to be

505
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.839
dropping out. I could not tell
you the dispensaries because I've been selling all

506
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.799
day, but I will give you. I'll give you bad leaf, right,

507
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:07.960
so that one and then um,
high Tech man, the boys at

508
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.799
high Tech Chris is amazing. I
love. Those are my two favorites to

509
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.839
run right now. Yea. Um, but high Tech had this Banana Punch

510
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:22.200
that we just released and it is
uh, it's the flavor pal It's ridiculous

511
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.200
on it It's ridiculous and you look
at it too, and you wouldn't You

512
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.759
wouldn't be like, oh, this
is gonna be amazing. But it's just

513
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.799
like perfectly. Yeah. I was
talking to about Nana Punch all right,

514
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.400
because like I mean, you've done
some great class. But I love that

515
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.039
big drip that one stuck out,
Remember that one. I like halle Berry.

516
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.480
Yeah, everything we've run from Ghostbutters
has been fire shit. It's the

517
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.079
same thing for high Tech, same
thing with Ghost Bunch. Like I said,

518
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.640
those are the best collaps we do. No offense to all my boys

519
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.039
that do a bunch of do a
lot of collaps. That's just there's a

520
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.720
there's a special place in my heart
for those two so's, I said.

521
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.400
And so I wasn't sure if it
be based off flavor or be like,

522
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.279
oh, this one strain just pulled
so much. I made so much,

523
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.880
you know, I just curious what
it was. Yeah, the yield thing,

524
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.400
how's that work with Roger? Because
that sometimes does it hit wrong?

525
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.119
Because we've heard some nightmares of like, oh, it's great when you hit

526
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.440
the five or seven percent. People
are like, oh, but like under

527
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.880
one percent before we've heard it,
and then like people getting fired over this

528
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.400
type of stuff. Oh, yeah, so you're fucking with a lot.

529
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.119
I mean, you're messing with a
lot of money. I fire myself after

530
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.039
go home. I was like,
never fucking going back to that place.

531
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.320
Quick. He quits everything. So
I actually tell you guys, how we

532
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.840
mitigated. Okay, we actually do
some cool stuff, all right, So

533
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.559
we do a shake tests. Heard
ship about a shake test. Basically,

534
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.599
you get a two hundred milliliter mason
jar Widemouth, put some ice and it

535
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.400
some water in it. I put
mine in the fridge. I'll let chill

536
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.679
down. Hit it with a temp
gun hits thirty degrees. I take four

537
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.840
to eight grams of material cut from
mid canopy. Out your top buds because

538
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.280
it's gonna fucking lie to you.
That's with a good trick. Sorry,

539
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.360
you want like you want to buzz
like freezing twenty four hours in advance,

540
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.599
put them in the jar, shake
the shit out of it for ten minutes,

541
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:08.960
put it back in, shake it
for another couple of minutes, and

542
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.119
then I let it settle, all
right. And what happens is it's mimicking

543
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.840
my washer. So you literally lift
up the bottom. You take a picture

544
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.880
with the flash on. Actually if
you want, that's really cool. So

545
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.159
you're basically using the take the picture
and you can actually see that like the

546
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.880
t you're possibly getting good. Yeah, so that's you get like little rims

547
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.760
at the bottom. Oh well,
that's neat. And then that's my other

548
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.000
stuff that we do so that you're
pretty much making like a quick like hash.

549
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.000
Yeah, it's it's a lot,
it's yeah, just a real quick,

550
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.480
small amount because yeah, I mean
you're just agitating it and there you

551
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.599
go. Yeah. And then so
this is an eyeball test basically which most

552
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.079
people do well, we do.
After this, we scoop the weed out

553
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.039
of it, all right, and
then we got the thing called a resin

554
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.320
dial, which, by the way, shout out resin dial, I will

555
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:06.159
invest fucking amazing, dude. It's
like this little contraption. It's got a

556
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.719
bunch of like a circular Yeah,
dude, if you make hash buy one

557
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:17.719
way too expensive, invest to make
them cheaper. Sponsor me, bro,

558
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.559
you know. So like it's got
a bunch of like little other circles attached

559
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.800
on the bottom, all right.
When you put your micron screens, so

560
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:31.360
like these little circular f so you
put like one twenty nine, seventy and

561
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.760
a forty micro all right, so
assimilar you just how you were washing hash

562
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:37.239
bags. Pour it out the top, all right, and you put it

563
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:42.039
over a jar, and then once
the water drains out of it, we

564
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.360
sprayed a little bit like treat it
like that to like get the heads nice

565
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.880
and separated, and then you pop
it open, all right, and then

566
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.119
you pull out all the different microns
and you can see whether or not it's

567
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.840
gonna have a lot of We only
run seventy of them above, by the

568
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.599
way, seventy micron above. We
do not make full speck, which is

569
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.199
most of the business right now.
If it's cheap it's usually full spec.

570
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.000
But yeah, because you're dosing all
of it rather than so you're cutting out

571
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.119
some of that lower I do not. It's it's the garbage layer, you

572
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.800
know. So it's like I'm not
doing that. It's just like my ego

573
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.559
can't handle that one. Actually,
garbage layer. I don't think I've ever

574
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.360
heard anyone aboull it. But I
know that people will put the run on

575
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.039
their time. But people will put
the runs on there. It's like kind

576
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.440
of like a fleg. Yeah,
they'll they'll do full spec. Yeah,

577
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.079
so if you see seventy and above
people, those people give a shit.

578
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.719
Let me see. I won't name
the brands that do full spec, but

579
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.559
like, I just don't do full
spect. You just like seventies, the

580
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:36.199
best seventy one twenty or the best
heads period. If you can just extract

581
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.440
nineties all day, I'll give that
grower my house. Yeah, if he

582
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.880
just makes ninety yeah, I was
like everything. Yeah, you can have

583
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.880
a piece. If you make ninety
micron trichom heads all the time, I

584
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:52.719
will give you a piece of my
company. Let's murder soon, because you

585
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:59.840
go, those heads are unbelievably murders
happen. Yeah, hit me up another

586
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.920
guys shout out hit me up on
the DM sit in nineties. But it's

587
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.480
like, those are awesome heads.
Those are your full melt heads, you

588
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:09.679
know. Okay, I all know
full melts, Like we never get true

589
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.920
because every time someone sells its bubble
like full melt, it's never been full

590
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.079
melt. So yeah, it's like
dry and ship. Yeah, it's like,

591
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.199
yeah, it's usually enzo sift.
We're working on that right now.

592
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:27.199
My issue is preservation, so getting
it to the dispensary into their freezer before

593
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.360
it melts. So our stuff,
um, we make full melt, yeah,

594
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.360
you'd have to keep it frozen,
that would be yeah, so I

595
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.480
have to put it on dry ice, which is a cost. And do

596
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:43.000
you guys know anything about costs right
now? Every dude, everything, everybody's

597
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.239
it's terrible. So basically I have
to like keep it frozen, package it

598
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:52.320
frozen, send it frozen into go
into a freezer, and then you know,

599
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:54.639
hopefully by the time the person takes
it home, it's gonna like melt

600
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.079
down a little bit, like all
pretty and everything. But I don't want

601
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.119
it to be like fucking brown and
it's been melted for ten days. Before

602
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.920
it got right right, Yeah,
but our stuff you really pull it out

603
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.719
of the dryer. If I leave, we have to like wet work inside

604
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:13.679
of a big like uh no,
you're you're getting We like work into like

605
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.280
a big um. We work in
a big freezer, so when we pull

606
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.000
out the dryer, we have to
work inside a freezer. We have like

607
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.880
a mini table in there, all
right, and that's where we do all

608
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.000
our bag and we do everything because
if we go inside, open our whole

609
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.480
our whole pile within twenty minutes will
melt down. That's crazy. That's I

610
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.159
didn't even think about that because,
yeah, you'd lose the heads, right,

611
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.000
It like instantly melts like that.
It's like the heat having good bubble

612
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.960
hash. If it's really really good
the heat in the air, it'll just

613
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.079
like condense. So it just happens
to us all the time. Like we

614
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.519
I put some dry sift, I
put some of the bubble hash and my

615
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.039
boy in a jar from one of
my employees and he pulled it out at

616
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:53.719
the end of the day. It's
like, oh the sunat gas it was

617
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:59.239
like fucking melted. It wasn't it
wasn't even hash anymore. Yeah, I

618
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.360
mean it was hash what I mean, it wasn't like the same quality.

619
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.880
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's
crazy. I had no idea that it

620
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.159
such hours it goes like that.
Yeah, oh yeah, a couple of

621
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.719
hours' dude. This when we pull
a dryer, we're talking like said ten

622
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.320
twenty minutes. Yea, that exposure
some people's. It depends on your process,

623
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.800
you know, it depends on what
heads are using, Like using lower

624
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.159
grade heads, it's gonna take longer
to melt. If you dry it too

625
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.119
much, it's gonna take longer to
melt. You want something like waters out

626
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.559
of it, but the turps are
still there, it's gonna melt away.

627
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.480
And I just never heard of someone
working in that like type of freezer thing,

628
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.920
except for like a produce company.
Yeah, let's not. Let's not

629
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:40.559
bring them on the podcast because they
hate it. I hate it. Yeah,

630
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.599
like these long like gloves that we
put our shout out to those workers

631
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.559
because you're making magic happen out here
with this flavor. Yeah yeah, Nick,

632
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.840
here we go, Nick, Miguel
and Jamison just all day long.

633
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.599
Those are hashboys. They work,
They work super We love it. Is

634
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.159
there. Do you guys do carts
or any other sort of day. We

635
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.039
just released We just released carts.
That's what I thought. I just sucks.

636
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.880
Like literally, when I was looking
for the graphic that I couldn't find,

637
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:13.199
I saw a point five fifth age
and I was like, that's a

638
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:17.039
different box at the rectangle. Oh
yeah, So so we did release carts.

639
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:24.119
We did them with Peninsul Gardens.
Um, I'm sorry, Alpha butts

640
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.800
Okay, Oh hey, love,
I want to because from yeah, the

641
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.159
days back a clod Ian crushes.
Those guys are great. Um, yeah,

642
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.199
we did, We did disposables with
them. We're gonna have more coming,

643
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:42.400
except for two has been taking like
six weeks to get stuff from China,

644
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.239
you know, like all carts can
come from China, every single cart,

645
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.000
I imagine, not a single cart
comes from like it. Well,

646
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.880
the mount of the pound of manufacturer
breaking, you're probably saving, okay,

647
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.360
I mean it's still fucking expensive,
by the way, but yeah, yeah,

648
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.599
you save a ton of money.
I mean it was made in America.

649
00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.920
Would be like ten bucks a cart, you know, just for the

650
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.239
car press. Yeah, man,
you're buying carts for that expensive some places.

651
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.960
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's my
whole point. It's like it was

652
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.920
made in America. Impossible, right, So getting things over from China just

653
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.760
takes forever. So it's like I
have a new batch coming, new branded

654
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.880
actually new hardware, right that like
a lot, no center post, no

655
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:23.000
wick. It's a bucket style.
So what's killing people off is that center

656
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:27.400
post, that metal center post in
there. It's heating up a ton,

657
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.239
the elements in there. It's heating
up a ton on the live resin and

658
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.119
that's what's heating the top of the
oil off, burning turps and all that.

659
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.400
So I got a bucket style where
like leaks in the bottom of the

660
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.320
middle thing, that middle thing heats
up and yeah, and that's how it

661
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.599
vapes. Yeah, it burns turps
off at the top end over time and

662
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.159
like it degrades your oil. Okay, I was really curious. We do

663
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:51.519
a bucket. There's like a little
uh, there's no post and there's like

664
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.920
a bucket on the bottom, and
so it flows into the bucket and burns

665
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:58.440
there and comes up comes out the
sides. Oh wow, So it doesn't

666
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.960
even so it's just boiling more less
than like a more. This is just

667
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.559
like a direct heat type. It's
like dripping it downwards instead of going in

668
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.800
and up. You know, because
then all that hot vapor that that coils

669
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.960
do this coil can see the real
Yeah, that coil is right there in

670
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.400
your oil. Yeah yeah I never
even really noticed that. So you're just

671
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:22.400
like, yeah, direct heat.
Yeah, the bottom of it all the

672
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.840
way up, so yeah, you
are boiling it, that's straight up,

673
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:30.079
you know. So what this does
is it's just a divot with out that

674
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.599
post on it, and it just
leaks down into this like an area where

675
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.280
can like not burn everything up,
and then it comes out like this little

676
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.880
port that comes up the side of
the cart. Yeah, almost like drips

677
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:44.440
into a bowl those That's exactly what
it is. It's like a little it's

678
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.400
like a little you know, dabric
style. Yeah. Yeah, but you're

679
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:52.639
losing that direct contact. Yes.
I never even yeah, except for finding

680
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.119
the one that worked. I have
a plastic bin actually my cart. Guy.

681
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.440
Here's another shot out Nate from VPM
that was me for a year because

682
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.360
of such a pain in the ass. But I have three hundred models of

683
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.679
carts and a thing that's just so
many different styles. Yeah, I just

684
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:13.400
like hate this, hate this,
hate this. Let Now that we've been

685
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.800
to Biscon a couple times in Vegas, dude, there are so many cards.

686
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.639
I thought there was like a couple
because you'd see like these ones,

687
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.079
or you see the white ones,
right, the ceramic ones. But there

688
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.639
are so many, damn kats.
It's insane how many companies are. But

689
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.079
yeah, he finally sent me a
good one. Well I feel bad saying

690
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.039
that. Finally he called me and
I was like, this is gonna work

691
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.199
it. I'd even send that ship
to you until I had someone fill it

692
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.880
try it out. If you don't
like it, you're a liar. Because

693
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.559
I sent it out and send it
out, filled it up. I was

694
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.119
like, I love it. You
know, voltage needs to go up a

695
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:49.960
little bit, but I love it. Tune the voltage right away, sent

696
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.599
it off to me, and I
was like, this is it for Rosing,

697
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.280
Like this is it? This is
what I want because yeah, they

698
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.519
are Rosing carts, big ass will
have a different model. I like something

699
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.800
a little bit different, but they'll
be the same cards. Though I'm not

700
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:06.239
Oh no, I like a different
model for the live reson that I do

701
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:12.079
the ros you cooler temper, Yeah, yeah, I do. But um,

702
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.840
just in terms of I don't know, there's something, there's something that's

703
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.480
gotten kind of e cigret to you. Well, if you tried three hundred,

704
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.079
I'm sure you've tried bag and you
know a couple of times to make

705
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.559
your decisions. Yeah, and I
have, Like I'm just saying, it

706
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.719
wouldn't taste to make a lot of
R and D. Yeah, it's a

707
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.199
lot for the cards, you know. By the way, that's the times

708
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.920
where I get the highest R and
D. Yeah, because it's like this

709
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.400
voltage and this voltage and this voltage
and this voltage, and I'm sitting there

710
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:45.159
sucked down that one. That one
in the office, I'm ripped, Like

711
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.800
we have like a questionnaire or something, and I just can't even write them.

712
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.079
They're all good whatever. Oh yeah, I could imagine after you're like

713
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:57.320
eight tenth one, you're probably like, hold on, which one was that

714
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.800
one? You know, like that's
I mean, have your own process and

715
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:01.440
right it down. But yeah,
a lot of R and D inside your

716
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.599
business. It sounds like you spent
a lot of R and D. Yeah

717
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.719
yeah, oh yeah. So like
I I'm normally like forty tabs on the

718
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.840
internet deep like research on the rag
you know, like you're in the rabbit

719
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.000
hole and you're like like the great
thing is like if you have if you

720
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.639
really understand what you're doing, you're
looking at something specific, Like I was

721
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.559
like, I need to do X, right, I just google that.

722
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:32.199
I need to remove this, you
know, I need to gently you know,

723
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.960
take this to this, I need
to shake, I need to whatever

724
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:38.800
I need to do right, put
in the Google I was like, and

725
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.920
then I type in like science and
then it gives you, like you know,

726
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:46.280
you'll use like the peer of your
papers. It gives you a bunch

727
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.480
of cool things and you get all
on mechanical when they search up the subject

728
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.840
lines and you're like, Okay,
this is the equipment. This is in

729
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:58.480
the in the the real world,
but in the other markets, this is

730
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:01.519
how they do this specific thing right, And you're like, okay, all

731
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.760
right, and so how can I
make this work for me? And you

732
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.920
just go deeper and deeper and deeper. Let's buy my process for ten years.

733
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.960
Interesting that that's really cool because you're
basically taking the process and taking from

734
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.840
other industries and applying it to the
campus extry as well. Oh yeah,

735
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:21.440
we had a We had and still
had a team of guys that had been

736
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.880
doing this forever, like some of
the best in the business in my opinion,

737
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.000
those guys killed it, killed it
every day. Yeah, on the

738
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.280
research side, mad respect to those
dudes. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

739
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.960
well yeah no, I that's why
everything you're talking about with the rosin and

740
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.000
this, it sounds like a lot
of what you do is just making sure

741
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.039
the process is right and then that
process will work. This was This was

742
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.519
for sure like a good group effort
for sure. Like in getting here,

743
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.159
you know, fucking anyone else you
want to shout out, because I think

744
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:49.840
we can get shout outs, but
shout out to your team. You want

745
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.800
to give shout outs? Yeah,
shout out dude, my my OG team

746
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.199
and my new team. All those
guys love first off, are high ons

747
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:04.800
guy like love love getting my my
ogs. The og extractor who's actually been

748
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.079
like my one of my best friends
since I was like a kid. All

749
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.840
right, that dude smokes more weed, I promise you than anyone. That

750
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.079
dude you like thousand milligram edible on
a Wednesday and go to bed. Okay,

751
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:22.079
and the like, I've never seen
anyone eat as much read as this

752
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.440
fool. Now he's still coming to
work, work his ass off, sweat

753
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.519
run three machines with two guys come
in, tell us what's going wrong,

754
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.360
fix it himself, and then make
an amazing product and with no experience when

755
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.840
he started, you know, so
shout out Bob hell yeah yeah, I

756
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.360
know. It sounds like he's hustle. Oh yeah. And that's funny that

757
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:44.719
you say that, because like that's
sometimes when I think of this kid will

758
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.800
just blow like nineteen joints and he's
up at four thirty in the morning working

759
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.719
or whatever. I'm like, how
do you what? What are you doing?

760
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:51.639
Like? How do you be doing
it? I spoke a donut and

761
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:59.480
I like change. I love me
a donut. It's like the perfect blend

762
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:05.719
because of wax, and I think
of doing a donuts with Benny Canna.

763
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.199
All Right, so guys, no
searching up Benny Canna. Um, he's

764
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:14.920
coming in. We're doing Uh.
He's just like a He's just like a

765
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:20.519
traditional boy. Okay from amazing Donuts. We're working on a brand right now.

766
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.039
It's not just gonna be donuts.
It's gonna be like super artisanal,

767
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:29.840
hand rolled only get the best flower, like none of that dusting and Keith

768
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:36.800
bullshit. Okay, yeah, fire
ass rosin, fire ass flower, Like

769
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.199
I don't play that, you know, like I won't name them those companies,

770
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:43.280
but they're like the new ports of
weed now, dude, like it,

771
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:50.920
no, not about it, you
know, so they are though no,

772
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.880
I know it just for I know
what you're saying, Like yeah,

773
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.760
it's like it's like that's the that's
the I don't know, that's like a

774
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.519
the PBR, you know, like
something like that. So uh but yeah,

775
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.800
like the we're gonna be do you
doing all handworld, all artisan all

776
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.280
like picking the weed, picking the
producers, making it ourselves, making donuts.

777
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.719
We want to do like a full
melt mixed one with a donut with

778
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.280
a stick in the middle. Yeah, well if you need any R and

779
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:23.719
dtail, yeah, come in,
we'll do We'll do at the podcast halfway

780
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.679
through like shit, we're streaming the
podcast only gonna last like ten minutes.

781
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:31.280
I can't do this, guys,
No, I'm out. It's too good.

782
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:36.960
Well you say, like only artist, So like, is there a

783
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.639
process you go through, like who
the company you work with? Because I'm

784
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:40.760
always you can do a bunch of
claps, but like at the same time,

785
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.199
we don't see you doing with everybody. No god, no yeah I

786
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.280
could no no, no, no, no. Um kind of like a

787
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:55.960
general like mso like major corporation like
rule and not because I give a shit

788
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.000
that they're like a huge company or
anything like that. I'm like a little

789
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.239
bitarian, like how would you get
your money? None of my fucking business,

790
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:08.920
all right, what my business?
I don't care if you're a furry,

791
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.880
I don't care if you're a regular
old guy, old guy, whatever.

792
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.880
I don't give a shit what you
do, how you're making money.

793
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.880
Once again, not my business,
not my problem, right, But those

794
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:24.360
facilities are so big that there's just
not as much concentration into what they're doing

795
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:30.599
at the here and now you know, I don't use these every time.

796
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.559
I just like, I mean,
I just had to say it. So

797
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.960
you don't work with them as what
you No, I don't. I don't

798
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:38.840
want to be the dick that comes
on like I'm not all those people like

799
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.199
flock, all these guys. You
know, it's more like get your money,

800
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.880
bro, you're doing at scale,
that's a totally different ball game.

801
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.400
Like good, right, I want
to work with guys that are bringing in

802
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.039
new genetics. I want to work
with guys that are you know, in

803
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:57.119
their own growths, passionate, give
a fuck about what's in that battle.

804
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:59.400
But the same mindset as you.
You know, you don't want to work

805
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.880
your ass up when you're side to
put your heart into it, and then

806
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.280
meanwhile some dudes just giving you like
here's a Boof number four, you know

807
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.000
what I mean, like whatever,
not even like super I mean like boof

808
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.360
like not good budd you know what
I mean. Like so it's like I

809
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:14.639
totally get that, because why would
you want to do that. That's why

810
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.039
I asked if there was a process
or something, because you gotta care who

811
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.880
you work with. There is like
we do a little bit of like social

812
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.159
media vetting, ask around, you
know, secret shop things like that,

813
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.760
you know, like it yeah or
some or good referral, you know,

814
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.639
play Chris hits me up, you
know, Ghostbusters hits me up or high

815
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.840
Tech or you know and say no
or any of those guys hit me up.

816
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.440
Be like you gotta fucking run this
guy. You know, that's what

817
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.679
happened with Old School. We're gonna
call from David. He's like, you

818
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:43.119
have to run this dude. This
dude's amazing. I go there, I

819
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.159
see all the passion that he puts
into his project. Oh, I can't

820
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:49.079
wait to meet him. Oh yeah, Jason's cool. You guys will like

821
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.280
Jason. Jason's a cool dude.
I definitely dig him. He's extremely interested,

822
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.719
thinking, cares too, you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

823
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.719
loves has like a good palette like
you go, and he's like he

824
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.119
opens a bag, so he's got
a bunch of like citruacy, no communists

825
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.559
to it. I really like the
floral notes and all that stuff. He

826
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.360
knows so, and that's we focus
so much on like flavor in a roma

827
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.079
because it goes so much farther than
THHC. Because sure, you know THHC.

828
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.239
That's what Maybe I'll last a certain
amount of time, but if it

829
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.599
doesn't hit right, you're not gonna
get to that, right mindset is what

830
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:23.840
I got. You know, I'm
listen. I'm the older guy. You

831
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:28.039
know, I'm trying to I'm trying
to enjoy myself when I smoke. It's

832
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.679
not just about getting ripped anymore.
I did enough of that in my early

833
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.800
twenties, right enough, getting high
as shit, you know. Now I'm

834
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.079
just like, it's like a cigar. Now, yeah, you gotta enjoy

835
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.800
it. Yeah yeah, so don't
enjoy it sakes the experience almost with it.

836
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.800
Yeah, man, that's my favorite
way to uh end my nights with

837
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.719
a nice joint. But I do
got to ask though about the fifth age.

838
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:51.719
You guys have like phases like phase
three, phase two or phase one

839
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:57.079
or what's the can you what's the
what? Sorry not phases? Level?

840
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:04.000
Okay? I told what levels though
we were questioning. You guys are the

841
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.400
reason why I have words on my
levels now, all right, so you

842
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:15.440
guys kept yeah. Yeah, by
the way, in the design process,

843
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:16.880
I was like level one, level
two, level three. No, no,

844
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:22.559
but I understand because the paradigm and
and cannabis is like tier three,

845
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.159
tier two, tier one, right, tier one being the best, which

846
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.960
is generally accepted. Right at the
fifth age, we level up, right,

847
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:31.519
And the reason I didn't want to
do tier three, two two,

848
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:38.000
tier one is because what happens when
I released my new piece attack, Yeah,

849
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.039
and I have something better than my
level three? Right, how can

850
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.679
I differentiate to my consumer to know
that that like this is is the next

851
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.920
level? Right? Yeah, like
this is the new thing, Like how

852
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:51.679
can I do that? If I
stay like it would just be what tier

853
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:53.360
one plus or some shit? You
know. So I was like, all

854
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:57.559
right, so we'll do a level
system, and you guys pointed up.

855
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.679
Honestly, you're not the only ones. I was getting email, you know,

856
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.679
dms. What the fuck is this
level ship? And I was like,

857
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.719
hey, you like that? Oh
yeah, threats, I'm telling you,

858
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:12.440
like people get super mean on the
DMS for weed companies. You don't

859
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.119
even believe um. So, I
mean, I can only imagine to just

860
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.400
feeling like I got ripped off because
like the dis boat didn't take care of

861
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.960
it. Oh sorry, you know, Oh yeah, it happens a big

862
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:27.719
time. So it's like level one
good, Level two great, you know,

863
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.199
Level three amazing, all right,
and level three is we have it.

864
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:34.559
We have a bunch of like factors
that come down to it. But

865
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.519
most of the time it's like six
plus percent of turpenes. Okay. So

866
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.760
there is like some type of like
rule system or whenever you have a rule

867
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:44.679
system. There's three. There's three
different things we do. How close did

868
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.639
we get to the original plant in
our extraction? Like how well did we

869
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:52.000
do in our extraction? Like how
similar it is to like the fresh rosen

870
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.280
material in terms of turpene profile?
And then the next one comparing tests and

871
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.320
like flavors, Yeah, yeah,
and then the next one is kind of

872
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.280
like do we like the flavor?
You know, I might give out some

873
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.559
samples to some people and then like
like not say anything, wait for the

874
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.280
reaction on it, all right,
and if they like the flavor, that's

875
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.360
one point. I already got another
point for being like the bag, right,

876
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.280
And then the last points are where
you sit on that turpene scale,

877
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:20.800
like how many do they have?
A lot of people like too much turpenes

878
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:22.639
or whatever. I think in rosa
it doesn't matter as much. I want,

879
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:27.679
like I want something six plus to
really get that flavor profile. And

880
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.360
so that's the last thing. It's
over six, it's the three. It's

881
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.159
undeniably it's undeniably fire over six.
There we go, okay, And I

882
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.360
think my confusion was is one the
best or is like three the best because

883
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:38.519
it's like the highest, Because I
was like, well one should be the

884
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:43.280
most first place. I was like
trying to figure that out. We were

885
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.480
like we're like how do we how
what are we gonna do? Because if

886
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:46.760
we're like releasing new stuff, I
was like, well, we're gonna love

887
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.599
luck And I was like, yeah, three point one, that's all USB

888
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:55.840
did, Like when they updated that's
true. That very true. I don't

889
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:00.719
know, you know, it's better
now. I don't know. I appreciate

890
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.239
the because even then you're, you
know, because you have like levels to

891
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.440
your stuff. Even even that you
you know, you already had that artismal

892
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.400
idea, but you still want to
have here's my levels. Yeah, it's

893
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.760
cool. We want to keep we
want to keep getting better. Like the

894
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.840
whole the whole thought process behind that
is like if I get to level four,

895
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:21.960
like, fuck me, what's that
going to be? I'm already brooding

896
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.599
on level threes? Is in the
first place, I do not make a

897
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:27.239
ton of level of threes, you
know, I like, that's a that's

898
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.440
a strict standard there. Don we
do any levels threes? Yeah? The

899
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.599
Ghostbuster? Was it? The was
it the Big Drift? Yeah, that's

900
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:37.639
what it was. Drift. Oh
my god, that was really good.

901
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:42.480
Blockberry chronic. I forgot about the
Blockberry. That was good. Bought all

902
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.599
three. There there's another one that's
true. Whenever he sees that ghostbust Yeah,

903
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:49.039
I think so, yeah, yeah, I see it. I'm like,

904
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.920
I want all of it. Let's
go. Yeah, those were good

905
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:59.559
one. I don't know, if
you want to let us know when it

906
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:00.800
drops. Yeah, at least let
us know when it drops. If you

907
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:05.320
do super low on that. People
have been saying like seven up a little

908
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.880
bit like really, well we'll sprite
seven up actually going on there, Yeah,

909
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:10.599
because I got some type of to
see notes. But every time I

910
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.840
smell it's like God's like gas.
Don't you smell that? I like,

911
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.239
so all right, we're going blue
on this. Every question for you guys,

912
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:22.519
what's your favorite string? Oh?
I mean, I know everyone in

913
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.800
the comments probably groovy Gmo and we
get it because I went through a phase

914
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:30.119
where it's like that's that one,
and what was the what's the other one

915
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.559
that's like the not the Cushman's No, the one that was like taste like

916
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.920
GMO that was not Larry It was
um oh yeah, there was one that

917
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:43.760
tasted just like GMO that got popular
for a minute, Papaya No, I'm

918
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:49.719
blanking right now. Yeah, anyways, tasted like GMO. Here you go

919
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.159
first, because for me, I
don't know if I have a specific flavor

920
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.760
or string because I love a bunch
of them. Ruppa right now, I've

921
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.920
been digging like lemon in terps,
lemonin something citrus maybe, yeah, like

922
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:05.079
Mercy's pretty dominant, but lemonine for
sure. That's one of my favorite turbans

923
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.840
right now. Like I've been smoking
on like I grow my own so some

924
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.159
bangering and then enjoying. I could
see that a little bit with this sprat

925
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.840
sprite taste seven uppy. Yeah,
I almost get like like a floral like

926
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:16.920
peachy tat. I don't know,
it's interesting, it's really good, but

927
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:21.320
I get that like I got the
sitters there. Oh yeah, it smells

928
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:22.599
good. Man sounds good. Do
you have a favorite tree? Yeah,

929
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:28.360
dude, classic, remember like that
basement og, you know, like the

930
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.960
original og smell, you know,
like you got it like it was just

931
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.480
dank, you know, yeah,
and it was like super Indica, you

932
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:42.599
know, like original San Fernando Valley
like good. Yeah, la Og just

933
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.079
to me was like the best strain
of all time. You know. I'd

934
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.880
buy like a pound of thing,
keep it for like months too. Yeah.

935
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.199
I guess I used to love skunk. I used to love scunk because

936
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:57.000
yeah, like slemon skunk, those
are really good. I guess DMO just

937
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:59.960
hit me from surprise because I was
trying so much like gas e citters.

938
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.119
It was all and then out of
Noah, it was a garlic and I

939
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.280
was like, what is this?
Garland Knean, Like, what the hell

940
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:07.079
is this? Like what is this? You know? But you know,

941
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:08.159
you learn it's a mix of them, and like, I think that's where

942
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.639
I because I thought it was so, you know, because as all these

943
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.039
cultivators make new strains and all this
shit, sometimes they're misses, you know

944
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.719
what I mean. Sometimes they're hits, and sometimes they're like like the runs,

945
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.039
they just blow people away, you
know. So it's like I just

946
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.960
guess you never know what you're gonna
get. I actually have something against runs.

947
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.360
This is a motherfucker to wash.
Well, No, it's I like

948
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:35.440
smoking the flour. It just sucks
the wash. It's not the funnest thing

949
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.280
you said. It wasn't a big
yield, No, no, not at

950
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.480
all. It's more smaller popcorn nks
that I've had on the runs I happened.

951
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:43.519
It's not huge. I just like
at the flavor and the smoke of

952
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.440
it. Yeah that's a joint.
Yeah that's fine. That's exactly why I

953
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:52.760
keep it. Yeah. Yeah.
It's like, well, because he's got

954
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:54.159
like three to four different runs runtzes, and I'm like, Bro, didn't

955
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:55.800
really know these runses. He's like, well, do this tastes like?

956
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.440
This tastes like I was like,
well, man, it's right though.

957
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:01.400
The crosses are fire. Has some
bucking right, all right, just ganging

958
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:05.960
up on me. No appreciate it. Oh yeah, and you're right.

959
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.480
They do taste different. But crosses
you get like this little like fruity thing

960
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:14.079
going on candy, and then you
get like someone crosses it with like Bubba

961
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.280
or something. You're gonna get that
like old school taste, Bubba taste in

962
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:22.079
it, old school Bubba, Bubba
ninety three, Bubba ninety Bubba. Yeah,

963
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.440
that shit was that. I've actually
seen that recently. Really, yeah,

964
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:30.280
I forgot where in the market recently. Yeah it was fired too.

965
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.440
He's got that. Oh oh yeah, Jason was talking about getting Bubba.

966
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.199
Jason's on a hunt for like,
oh no, it wasn't can't wait to

967
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.199
held you on if you haven't been
on yet. I think I think he

968
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:45.760
was looking for the real strawberry diesel. That's what he's oh man, which

969
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:47.599
might be fucking impost. He says
he found a guy, but he's been

970
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.480
he's also he's been like through five
people to get it. But like that's

971
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.719
just like hot. You guys,
remember do you like verify a straight?

972
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:55.880
I mean obviously you taste it,
you know, right, but like you

973
01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.920
gotta, how do you how do
you like? I know that's any strawberry

974
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.800
diesel. If anyone was going to
verify it, it's gonna be chasing.

975
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.400
He knows the ship. He's also
been growing, I think for a really

976
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.760
long time. Yeah, but yeah, I mean I think I could reasonably

977
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:14.239
I smell a ship a little different
strains, So, like's what I mean

978
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.079
to me, it gets harder and
harder to remember, and like I just

979
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:20.360
I guess it. You know,
I came in at like a newer time.

980
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:22.440
Some of these other strains that were
new to me were already a little

981
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:27.599
bit you know. So but like
that lemon skunk, like I love some

982
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:31.679
sour diesel, Diesel is phenomenally you
don't see that anymore at all, sour

983
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.480
man. Yeah, I missed those
flavor profiles. They were great. But

984
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:42.079
like, I don't know, this
new weed is uh like the Gelatos when

985
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.840
that came out of Dods, totally
different profile. It's got like its own

986
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.440
thing going on. And yeah,
dude, and that's that's the thing,

987
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.719
like, right, You're always on
that hunt for that next like whoa,

988
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.000
what did I make? And it
just tastes like whatever. Yeah, when

989
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:59.000
the cookies came that wave dude,
form very pain too for him. Cut

990
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:02.800
was everything well supposedly like yeah,
well everybody had the like a little offshoot

991
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:07.000
of it. We actually Crosston,
we actually crossed the form cut a while

992
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:14.960
back and we made Viper Viper City
Viper cookies, all right, and it

993
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:19.760
was more cookie than the form cut
we had. I don't know, it

994
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.840
like expressed itself differently shit yielder,
by the way, But I would not

995
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:29.000
get rid of it because I was
like, good I had that was my

996
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.760
plan. I get it. It's
like him bang, like that's his ship.

997
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:36.880
Yeah, just grow like two of
them guys, Like Noah, fucking

998
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:37.960
sucks. I was like, no, no, no, just grow like

999
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:42.800
two of them please, you know, like okay, okay, when it

1000
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:47.199
comes, I'm just cutting that ship
back. No, I mean I get

1001
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.559
it when you like a certain cut, you know. I Mean that's why

1002
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.679
that's actually a really good question,
you know, because it's so hard to

1003
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.840
say my favorite strings. I've smoked
so much ship by now, so it's

1004
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.159
like I love a lot of it. Yeah, you lovely, something just

1005
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:02.480
hits that profile. It's just like
unique. And something about og just like

1006
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:06.199
reminds me of like the turning point
in weed, you know. So it

1007
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:10.320
was like og was one of the
ones that was like they was on the

1008
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.760
end of everything for a while,
like one of the first ones that I

1009
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:18.360
remember being like so og this ogd
like every ogre just but it was good.

1010
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.199
That was the change. That was
the changeover though, because we had

1011
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:24.840
like brick and then you got like
some a little bit better stuff, you

1012
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.400
know. They had like tires pot
like train wreck and all that. Yeah,

1013
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:30.159
a little bit better, but a
real turn into like marketed cannabis,

1014
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.920
like good, good markets cannabis.
For me, it was like og og

1015
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:39.639
crosses og cush too. But that
was again I feel like cush was a

1016
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.159
term for just like good weed for
a while. I feel you always they

1017
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.760
had droll and then it was like
yeah hydro. So I had a friend,

1018
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.199
actually I had a friend that thought
it was lawyers to try to bring

1019
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:56.320
drow back. You'd always be like, you're smoking row. I haven't heard

1020
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.639
that a hot minute. I'd never
say cannabis. I was just say cush,

1021
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.199
dude, I think that more is
like something. I mean, there

1022
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:04.719
is a ride like Hindu cush planes
and all that stuff, but eventually just

1023
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:09.280
got turned to a slang term.
Yeah, no, definitely, yeah,

1024
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.320
because there was like cush, like
the weed, but a lot that was

1025
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.000
just because that was popular. People
said cush when they were smoking. So

1026
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:17.440
I think we'll just call it good
weed. Yeah, you know that makes

1027
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.280
sense too. It's so cool this
have been seen that like change too.

1028
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:24.159
We go from shit weed to great
you know, look where we're out with

1029
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:28.079
this rosset change to the ship I
used to put in my lungs like fourteen

1030
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.880
years ago, like yeah, oh
my gosh, years ago. That just

1031
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:41.480
mostly just like a crack crack crack, crack crack. I'm still gonna hit

1032
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:45.079
it. That's all I got,
dude. They like the Mason jar.

1033
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.039
We like took the cap off and
you have to hook it to a vacuum

1034
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.559
pump and put your oil in there, and then you like stick the tube

1035
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:54.400
in and backs it down. I
know how many of those Mason jars have

1036
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.519
imploded. And I like when I
was like nineteen ship. Yeah, just

1037
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:00.760
because you are trying to boil off
off all the stuff you just spen yeah,

1038
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:06.239
scarbage, dude. I've heard crazy
things. Maybe you'll blow in what's

1039
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:10.519
it called, like foundations off of
apartment buildings because they blow. And I

1040
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.039
knew someone that did that, just
White Team. Actually I haven't known two

1041
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:15.599
people. None of them have done
that. Yeah, it's like my girl's

1042
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:17.960
cousin at the time, and it
was I was like, what happened.

1043
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:20.920
I was like, just like,
like, so everyone was trying to make

1044
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:26.880
wax with the tubes. So I've
only open blasted a couple times because I

1045
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:29.800
was like, this scares the shit
out of me. I got immediately in

1046
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.199
the clothes loops. I was like, no good, I don't want to

1047
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:35.079
set on fire. I was like, let's just do this thing over here.

1048
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.840
I mean, wax was dangerous at
first, like that's why there was

1049
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:41.280
so much scared behind it. But
now it's so safe and like you said,

1050
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:44.159
now it's just like you know,
it's hash and he was pressed and

1051
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:46.000
it's like so much better. Man. I wish we would have had Rosin

1052
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:48.480
back then. I'm sure people did, but a lot of people hash.

1053
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:54.320
We made fun of Rosin so hard, really because I only knew of hash

1054
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.199
like hash Hash, you know,
you were such jerk. I was a

1055
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.039
huge jerk about rosin. I was
like that BHO like blah blah blah.

1056
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:03.840
We thought it was like the end
all be all. It's like be honest

1057
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:09.199
with the only smoked twice, but
won't do resist like mine. I'm just

1058
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.320
curious, like six or seven years
ago, you know. And then even

1059
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:14.880
then, like, I didn't change
my mind for a while. And then

1060
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.280
a friend showed me really really good
rosin and I was like, oh,

1061
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:24.119
okay, it's not as lame as
I thought. I was like, and

1062
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:26.639
then one day I was like,
we're making rosin, dude, let's try

1063
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:28.960
this out. No, I mean
now I love it now. I think

1064
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.119
it's like now, it's like to
me, there's no better expression of a

1065
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.280
fresh frozen plant. There's no better
expression. BHO has its purpose, and

1066
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:40.280
I love that. It's still good
product, right, but there's no better

1067
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:44.039
expression that comes from a planet than
smoking rosin. Now you're talking flavor,

1068
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:47.000
Yeah, no, no, I
agree tenfold. That's why I dabbed just

1069
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:51.920
pretty much mostly rosin nowadays. I
mean he made me. I'm kind like

1070
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.760
I said, I'll still dab some
live resi and I'm not gonna be like

1071
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.079
no, thanks, like you know, you know, and I will buy

1072
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:00.880
it sometimes, you know, but
a lot of times if it's good.

1073
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.239
I realized I like a lot of
batter now because sometimes with the shatters or

1074
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:08.519
the like, you know, shatter
especially, it's like just it's just not

1075
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:11.840
as good as all this other stuff, like the processes have been improved,

1076
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.440
because the processes have improved. So
it's like, why I go backwards?

1077
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:16.600
No, there's no point. It's
like I saw a couple. I saw

1078
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:21.520
shatter and the dispensary, and I'm
like saying, like, why funny you

1079
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:25.640
had to do is take that same
thing, like when it came out of

1080
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.600
the pot, mix it up,
okay, whip it really good, make

1081
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.880
it nice, treat it nice,
and then give it somebody. Instead,

1082
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.319
they're just you know, pouring out
these slabs and just ripping a vacuum off

1083
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.600
and on it. The whole time
comes out like glass, you know,

1084
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.520
just like you just ruined great oil. You know, it's funny thing that

1085
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.560
was great stuff. They hold it
up, it doesn't shatter, it doesn't

1086
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:49.199
matter. I hated that, and
I was like I want my shit drip

1087
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.960
it, you know, because that's
Turban's right, that's funny. Anxiety and

1088
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.039
know because we used to do what
was those things you used to do all

1089
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:59.119
the time, dunk slam, dunkle
ruse. He's like he's like big little

1090
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:03.359
balls out of his shatter and then
big ducks, Like yeah, that was

1091
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:08.239
the old error. I've smoked a
ton of shatter, you know. But

1092
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.199
that's what I'm saying. It's crazy. It's crazy to see it now.

1093
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.760
At that point, it's like,
right now, it's like this is the

1094
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:16.399
product in coming, and you know
they're trying to sell whatever. Now it's

1095
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:20.359
like ten and g Like there it's
cheap, dude, that's selling wholesale.

1096
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.800
It's got to be like a dollar. That's crazy. So two bucks three

1097
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:30.279
bucks wholesale for a gram for sure. God remember we spend like twenty bucks

1098
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.760
for shattered. I was like,
this is a great deal. Batter was

1099
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:39.359
fifty dollars a half gram in twenty
sixteen. You know, it's crazy how

1100
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:44.359
much wax prices have changed that dude, rosin was one hundred and thirty two

1101
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.840
years ago, and comparative what people
are making now too, Like you get

1102
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:51.159
the rosin back then. There's a
reason why I made fun of it,

1103
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:56.279
because nobody had really liked too,
Like a lot of it was that sappier

1104
01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:59.680
rise. Oh even the bubble hash
Rosen, they like really had not figured

1105
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.479
out the whole deal, like like
not how it is now, right,

1106
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.039
So like the Rosin back then you
spend one hundred and thirty bucks on the

1107
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:11.199
gram, but you get Rosin now
and it's what fifty And that's for some

1108
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:14.960
solid stuff. That's what's crazy is
there's people lower I mean there's people higher

1109
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:15.960
that or trying to whatever. But
like that, you're right, that's like

1110
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.399
right in the medium of like good
stuff too. Like that's not like cheap

1111
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:21.880
rose. I remember forty fifty dollars
Rosin. You're like, oh, let

1112
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:25.039
me see it. Yeah, no, let make sure it's okay. Now,

1113
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:30.520
it's like it's that a little pricy
Like it's like to be honest on

1114
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:32.600
the other side of that where I'm
like, oh yeah, right, it's

1115
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:39.319
not pricey enough. Serious no,
I know. But it's just because,

1116
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:41.920
like you said, the market,
the market just changed so much and then

1117
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.800
the totally power price drop is so
crazy. So when we did fifth age

1118
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.319
pricing, just throwing that out there, I could have charged there's guy's same

1119
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:53.439
quality as me. Okay, charging
more. No, I will say that

1120
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.840
it actually pissing me off about that
is people are like, oh, it's

1121
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.920
better because they spend sixty dollars a
graham. Dude, it's that bougie effects.

1122
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:01.000
And that's what I'll call because it's
just it was more, so it

1123
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:06.000
must be better. My market,
my idea and market pricing was like,

1124
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:11.359
Okay, this is the margin I
need to make to be like semi profitable,

1125
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:15.319
okay, and live a good life. Employees happy. You know,

1126
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.239
we have employees with kids and all
that. People have been good lives,

1127
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:23.359
right, And then we had you
know, the price that was like gouging

1128
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.720
the customer. And we're like,
let's give them the best product for a

1129
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:30.000
little bit under top shelf top shelf
pricing Like, I'm not gonna gouge you

1130
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.560
guys. I still have to make
a profit every right, but we want

1131
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:40.840
you in business, ye dude.
A single compliancy tests three hundred fifty dollars

1132
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.880
to meet. For me to send
my material to a dispensary, it's one

1133
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.319
hundred and fifty dollars. Wellit three
hundred fifty to get a tested to get

1134
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:50.680
a test of three fifty. That's
with turpines and everything, okay, okay,

1135
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:56.119
and then one hundred fifty bucks and
that's per unit. That's per batch,

1136
01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:59.079
right, and we have a batchel
limit, but that's per batch,

1137
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:01.840
all right. It so no,
that's what I'm trying to say. It's

1138
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.399
like every stream you have, like
how many collabs did you say? There's

1139
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:08.880
ten? Okay, like how many
collabs we release? You know, and

1140
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:13.680
then you spend that And then let's
say somebody buys only three thousand dollars worth

1141
01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:16.319
a you know product, wholesale product, five thousand dollars with a wholesale product,

1142
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:19.800
I guess spend one hundred fifty bucks
just ascended there. So that amateurizes

1143
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:24.960
across all my units and my unit
price. So it's tough. So we

1144
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.920
have to pick something that's like somewhere
in the middle, all right, but

1145
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:32.000
above the middle, you know,
like like between top shelf and middle.

1146
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:34.720
That's where we wanted to be when
it came to pricing. But we want

1147
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:39.319
to give them like beyond top shelf
type quality. You know. Also I

1148
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:42.600
want to sell well, right,
Well, you've got a balance you gotta

1149
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:45.479
find, right, you gotta find
the balance of like what's not too much

1150
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:46.880
but it's right enough to be like
you because your shit is good. Man.

1151
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.680
Yeah, yeah, I guess I've
been low key, you know because

1152
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.319
the big gas I've had it.
I've had your ship before. This is

1153
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:59.439
oh yeah, We've talked about other
stuff I was a part of, so

1154
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:01.239
like, yeah, I mean I've
been in the market forever. I was

1155
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.479
one of the early early caregivers.
You know. We got a lot of

1156
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:09.920
heat around before because people are like, you know, you guys, this

1157
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:13.600
is like Callie stuff or whatever,
and they're like, no, I'm born

1158
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:16.720
and raised Detroit, Man. Yeah. Yeah, the state, you know,

1159
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:19.319
back in the old day. But
it was just like we got we

1160
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:23.800
caught black that. I mean,
it makes sense because I mean, for

1161
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:27.720
some reason, people think Callie's the
only place that grows chronic for some reason

1162
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.840
still, I know, especially going
there, I mean it was some of

1163
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.439
it was like some of the Cookie
ship was good. Some of the ship

1164
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:34.239
was not. You know what I
mean. It's like just because it's from

1165
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:40.720
California, everyone like thinks it's better. It's all the best weed I've ever

1166
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:48.640
seen. It's been in La Okay
and in but can't I just the mega

1167
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:54.520
wellness og from Nameless Okay. That
ship was stupid. I'm vacuum sealed.

1168
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:59.560
I'm not gonna tell the rest of
us. Yeah, it came to me.

1169
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.960
I got it, and it's I
didn't stunk up my whole fucking house,

1170
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:09.119
didn't smoke a single joint. My
girlfriend comes home. What the fuck

1171
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:15.800
is that? Like fire mind?
You know? Not for you? Yeah,

1172
01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.760
that's what it is. So that's
why that's the best we've ever seen.

1173
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:25.159
But La South Bay like just it's
just because genet I mean, they've

1174
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:29.760
been growing for forty years soon you
know, the genetics. That's like from

1175
01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:34.039
their dial super But second best place
I've ever been for we not because I'm

1176
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:41.920
from Michigan. I'd say we sucked
if we sucked caregivers in the old days.

1177
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.880
Man's just some stellar, amazing ship. Legacy marketing is huge, man,

1178
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:49.479
you know That's why I like,
some of the best probably gets on

1179
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:54.159
the market usually comes from somebody from
the legacy or knowing the legacy, or

1180
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:58.039
at least kind of have been involved
between you know, on these people that

1181
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:01.279
came in you know, really no
the same. So all the best craft

1182
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.760
cultivators, in my opinion, that
I've dealt with, we're in the legacy

1183
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:09.800
market. All of them were in
the traditional market. So and they were

1184
01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:13.159
good in the traditional market, and
they're good now, they're great now right

1185
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:15.159
fire Now, Like I said,
there's a couple of brands out here who

1186
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.279
I think are as good, if
not better than anything I've seen the traditional

1187
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:23.439
market. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good shot. Yeah. Man,

1188
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:26.399
you want to ask you a question? Yeah, we've it's been.

1189
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:30.399
It's been fun. We've been.
Actually I had no idea. I was

1190
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:32.279
like, I saw an hour and
I was like, no big deal,

1191
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:35.840
but yeah, just appreciate it.
We usually asked every learning this question.

1192
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:41.239
Um, it's a funny one random. Today's question made is like what literally

1193
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:45.359
was our first interview, and we
just kind of kept the tradition. Something

1194
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:48.079
funny. So imagine you're I'm gonna
say, how do you smoke your dads?

1195
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:50.079
What do you usually smoke? You
smoke joints, you said, right,

1196
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:55.520
I do smoke mostly flower. All
right. So as you're breaking cracking

1197
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.359
open the grinder and your weed pops
out, a genie pops up and grants

1198
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:02.600
you one wish for anything you can
change in the cannabis industry. What would

1199
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.720
you uh, what do you do? You can think about it? Take

1200
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:09.760
for a second spot on it.
So we just know there's so many things

1201
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:15.880
going on. And three, Yeah, Joe's funny, we have done that.

1202
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:21.079
No one's ever said that. Whoa, I've seen I've read that book.

1203
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:26.079
There's three in that story. All
right, we each got one,

1204
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.039
we take the other one, so
do you get the third one? Okay?

1205
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:35.760
My first thing, make make the
fucking tax code for weed. What

1206
01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:39.359
do you mean that? What do
you mean? Because I I I definitely

1207
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.560
agree that I think it should be. We're getting fucked by the federal government.

1208
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:47.800
I mean which way? Oh well, yeah, I mean like the

1209
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:56.000
cannabis industry specifically the tax law.
And I can't describe it perfectly like an

1210
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.920
accountant can. Basically, we don't
really get standardized deductions. We get a

1211
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.560
couple things that cost a good soul, right, but all the other benefits

1212
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:08.760
and all the other companies get Okay, they get they get to like deduct

1213
01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:11.439
things, all right, and it
makes it easier to make a profit,

1214
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.439
yes, hundred percent. Yeah,
because you're not because because the federal things

1215
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:18.199
behind it's not because when it's still
on the schedule list, you can't write

1216
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:23.159
things off because you're treated as it's
not federally legal. They made two eighty

1217
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.119
for like coke dealers in Miami back
in the eighties. That's the reason why

1218
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:30.039
I think so that's what the code
was that you should so basically two eighties

1219
01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:35.039
the change, because honestly, to
eighty changes. Not only does the entire

1220
01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:39.920
market change for everybody, but you
guys are gonna see quality come up a

1221
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:43.359
lot because people are gonna have extra
money. R and d's are right off.

1222
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:45.239
You know, well, dude,
I mean, can you think about

1223
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:48.760
any other business in America? How
hard is to run any business. It's

1224
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:53.319
hard enough to run it with the
write offs. They're basically going like,

1225
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:57.000
no, you still owe us our
cut, but still illegal. It's like

1226
01:17:57.199 --> 01:17:59.920
what, oh yeah? And then
but then you can't even put things in

1227
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.039
banks you get you can't. You
employees deal with all sorts of shit.

1228
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:08.640
It's it's it's like it's it's tough
too. It's just like, think about

1229
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:12.520
it. I'll just schedule list you
criminalize the ship, please please. I

1230
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:17.239
don't know if I'm for federal realizations
criminal schedule lists. It like get the

1231
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:20.279
schedule list. Nobody in jail anymore, all right, Not that the federal

1232
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:25.399
governments, we ain't ready anybody.
Not only that, but I just think

1233
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:29.640
it would ruin it. You have
boot from everywhere. Yeah, I don't

1234
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:34.119
want to be grown with thousand pounds
working outdoor coming into Michigan exactly like something

1235
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:43.680
Florida outdoor. Yeah, that's how
dried is there. I just don't want

1236
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.680
it. I'd like, let's just
keep the market pure, dude, Michigan

1237
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:48.680
people making Michigan stuff from Michigan people, you know, like, let's do

1238
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.920
it. Yeah. Well, it's
just like you said, there's so much

1239
01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:55.319
transport things and issues. When you
start dealing with imports and stuff, it's

1240
01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:59.159
gonna get so like it's gonna degrade
the quality you would have. You would

1241
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:00.560
have, they would have to create
a standard that everyone would agree with.

1242
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.840
You know, we have standards you
that because we have high quality, you

1243
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:05.960
know, and we want good stuff, you know, just like with the

1244
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:11.199
medical you know, even then it's
even lower ppms or whatever. So you

1245
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:13.479
know, you can't just do that
for like, I don't know, it

1246
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.079
would be too hard. I think
that's my soapbox. Man. It's like,

1247
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.279
treat us like every other business that's
you want to you want the genie

1248
01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:24.079
thing, just take away all the
rest of shit. And treat me like

1249
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:27.840
a regular business. Fuck even two
ade. Treat me like a regular business.

1250
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:30.359
You know. Don't make me jump
through hoops when I get it.

1251
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:31.520
Put the money in the bank.
You can't put money in the bank that's

1252
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.039
still got paid tax. We have
to go through. Actually we can put

1253
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:36.479
money in a bank, oh you
can. You can, just not an

1254
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.199
institute federally institutional bank. We can. We can use credit unions and then

1255
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.319
they charge us up the ass.
It's like a thousand, I think three

1256
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:47.520
thousand dollars credit union. You do
with anything with cannabis, they're going to

1257
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.640
charge you because they just think you
have money. Well, you open all

1258
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:54.520
the stuff. Get rid of the
green tax, you know, that would

1259
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:56.720
be great. I mean green tax. If you guys know what that is.

1260
01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:03.279
The green tax is basically like if
I was to buy hid light from

1261
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:08.920
from my warehouse, cost me one
hundred bucks. You know, I buy

1262
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:12.800
that same ide light from my grow
with a brand on it cost me four

1263
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.159
hundred dollars. Now, so that's
the green tax. Because everybody thinks we're

1264
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:18.680
like rolled in cash all the time. So basically what they do is they

1265
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:24.880
up charge on everything. Everything is
up charged, damn. So not only

1266
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:28.439
are you getting yeah, man,
you see that's something saying the cannabis industry.

1267
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.640
You get everyone. You just get
so boned at every single direction and

1268
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.920
every single way that like things I
didn't even think of, because like I

1269
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:38.560
already think it's hard enough to run
a business. You know, you don't

1270
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:41.640
have all these holdbacks now, oh, I mean, like, dude,

1271
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:45.560
it wasn't the lockdown that got us. It was after like everything like getting

1272
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.600
getting equipment, getting materials, getting
any type of supplies. With a supply

1273
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:51.520
change, you can imagine try to
run into business against you from China.

1274
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:57.399
You said you already have delays.
Now I couldn't imagine when you happened.

1275
01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:00.800
Thank god I wasn't open yet because
I thought you can see the maps.

1276
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:08.079
It's just like fucking thirty thousand ships
just sitting in likes, just waiting for

1277
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:11.840
like months. They were leaving ships
in They're just like leaving them. They're

1278
01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:18.039
still there, dude, with something
some poor oilmakers carts on it. You

1279
01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:21.399
know, like I'm still fucking there
right now, right, So it's just

1280
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.319
like that's literally what your packagings.
And yeah, that's what i'd say.

1281
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:28.920
It's like the rest of my goddamn
jars. You literally be here next week,

1282
01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:31.159
we promise. Yeah, yeah,
well we could show you where a

1283
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:35.159
ship is just turn on the news. But yeah, we were just like

1284
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:39.159
thank god, I wasn't open for
that. But it's like it's things like

1285
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.680
that, like periods like that that
people are like, Oh, that's got

1286
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.640
the weed. Guys doing great.
It's like, no, we have the

1287
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:48.399
same businesses news this pro news articles
that, oh the revenue, total revenue,

1288
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:51.760
total revenue. People don't understand that
that's not profit, you know,

1289
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:56.840
god, revenue is just revenue.
Like you know, you can make ten

1290
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.880
million dollars, but if you spend
nine million, nine hundred thousand, nine

1291
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:00.640
ranny night. Oh my god,
it was a big number to pick.

1292
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:02.760
You know what I'm going with that, Yeah you only made a dollar,

1293
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.199
you know what I'm saying, Like, oh yeah, well, and that's

1294
01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:08.800
the thing. It's just like,
you know, cut the testing, cut

1295
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:12.479
the packaging, cut the labor that
goes into it, cut the input product,

1296
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.800
the good input product that goes into
it, cut you know, everything

1297
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:19.640
else, r and ding the product
branding it. Like dude, we're talking

1298
01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:24.079
like we're just taking too much money. Constantly. It's like people like oh,

1299
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.000
you know products too expensive. It's
like, no, it's expensive to

1300
01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:30.720
mak Yeah. Well, and that's
the thing people don't realize, like how

1301
01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:34.399
much goes into the process, so
many steps within the metric market. Crazy.

1302
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:39.119
Well, I appreciate that because we
always talk about dichrominazation and getting safe

1303
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:42.640
banking because they then businesses could be
treated, people would be out of jails.

1304
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.359
You know, you get it off
the schedule list. You other rights

1305
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:46.960
that you don't get, you can
get those rights back, because it's bullshit.

1306
01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.279
Just because I smoke weed, shouldn't
shoudn't affect other rights? No,

1307
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:53.199
No, should affect any other things
I do. It shouldn't. You're running

1308
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.359
a cannabis business, a business in
America, you should be able to do

1309
01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:00.479
it. Every business in America.
Yeah, America. I feel like I

1310
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:03.279
mean, I'm like feel like I'm
in like a communist program because everything is

1311
01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:08.159
just like you know, it goes
into the CIRA. Every everything is like

1312
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:11.920
being the money is being redistributed and
basically, you know, it's like you're

1313
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:15.479
you're paying all of your money out
to redistribute it to companies that have tax

1314
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.159
incentives that I don't get. So
they're just taking dollars from me on the

1315
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:21.640
regular, you know, and then
they can write all that stuff off and

1316
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:25.439
they can do whatever they can run. All that business spends up. Fuck

1317
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.359
that shit. Yeah that sucks,
dude. Well yeah, dude, anything

1318
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:30.439
else you want to say, anyone
shout out? I think we did that,

1319
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:33.119
but like, I just appreciate you
coming on, man, we didn't.

1320
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:36.520
We gave a long episode, a
lot of information for our listeners.

1321
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:40.960
Any any questions or any like,
you know, definitely check them out,

1322
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:43.640
you know, reach out to us, fifth Age, reach out, find

1323
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:47.479
out where their ships at. Try
it um. So the one thing I

1324
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:53.119
want to say everybody that new this
jar, the new tech is coming,

1325
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:57.439
not the drop we just did,
but it's going to be in the next

1326
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:01.039
coming drops, and look out for
the product because if you liked it,

1327
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.960
then it's gonna get better. No. I appreciate all the R and D

1328
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:06.199
man, all the hard work.
You really care about your product, man,

1329
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:10.640
I mean from Big Guess now like
shout out, Big Guess coming back,

1330
01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:12.920
And that's what that's what you were
saying. So we're gonna be checking

1331
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.359
it out. We're exciting. Yeah, man, there you go, get

1332
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:16.640
the yellow carts fake things happen for
you, guys. I love it.

1333
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:21.560
I appreciate you joining us today,
Josh, I got nothing else drible.

1334
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:24.960
That's it, all right, let's
wrap it up. As always, we're

1335
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.439
here to advocate, educate, and
inspired to next time, y'all,