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And board is a good right here. Our good friend Mark Scofield from sbnation

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dot Com has made his way to
the Ingleside line to give us the best

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in the business in terms of rap
perspectives. He's been out there covering,

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among other things, the F one
circuit and he makes a pit stop here,

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Mark, how you doing your head
spinning? My head is spinning,

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my friend. And I do like
your sort of race analogy there, although

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I want to tweak it a little
bit because I have a good lifelong friend.

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We actually, you know, played
baseball when we were like five.

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I mean we've been left long friends
who played baseball and ran Shock and Field

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together. And he's one of those
crazy people. He just ran I think

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his twenty ninth Boston marathond Oh my
goodness, wow, couple of days ago.

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That's crazy. Well, my good
friend Jason Burke likes to do He's

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done this a couple of times,
just what he calls the Double Boston and

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so a couple of years ago,
who was his most recent where he goes

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out to the finish line around six
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He gets there around the time the
race begins and then turns around goes back

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to the actual finish line. That's
what he caused a double Boston draft.

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It's kind of like the double Boston
because we're going to get to a finish

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line on Saturday, but we're going
to turn right around and start yelling about

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Caleb Williams and Michael Pennocks Junior and
Drake may come Monday morning. So we

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are in a perpetual double Boston marathon
when it comes to covering the draft.

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Look, we're writing it down,
We're putting it in the sound bank,

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Double Boston. We'll forever live in
game on lore. Here, I feel

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like I've been stuck in a double
Boston cycle here with the Panthers, back

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and forth, back and forth,
Darnel maybe Garoppolo. Now let's do this

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Baker Mayfield thing. You and I've
talked about this, and here they sit.

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You know, a lot of smoke, a lot of talk, and

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a lot of it's coming through Reddit. Apparently that here comes Will Levis charging

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up the gates here in terms of
the betting odds, Let's just continue to

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say that for the sake of argument, it maybe breaks young here. I

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think all signs tend to point in
that direction for the sake of this exercise,

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when you look at the Alabama quarterback
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they do indeed pick him, what's
the fit there? How do they work

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together in terms of not just his
size, we know the story there,

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but his traits and what Frankreich does
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John, You've talked a lot about
this. I saw you on social media

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earlier. This we talking about,
you know, the basic premise and starting

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point from the Panthers and for their
fans should be whoever they decide to pick

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is going to be in a very
good position to be successful. I do

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a lot of sort of fantasy shows, and I get asked at the end

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of bunch, Okay, well,
who's going to end up being the QB

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one fantasy wise out of this draft
class? And I always say it's whoever

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Carolina drafts because of the wealth of
knowledge and the experience in quarterback development as

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well as offensive philosophy and game Planet
and things like that. But whoever they

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had up drafted first overall, whether
it's Price Young as we expect, or

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the shock of all shocks, it's
Will Levis and somebody on read it was

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actually right, that quarterback is going
to be in a position to be successful.

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Now, what will that offense look
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again the assumption here the exercises that
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a lot of quick game concepts.
Again, the point guard analogy in comparison.

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It's something that makes a lot of
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but he's also a creator. And
so though there'll be someone he might

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sort of term free flowing aspects to
this offt it's not going to be a

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rigid five seven three step drop kind
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create a little bit. There's going
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of the pocket. They might get
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the pocket, you know, spread
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the edges, to let him create, because that's sometimes where he's at his

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best is create an explosive play down
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see an episis on quick game,
spreading the ball out, getting the ball

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out of his hand quickly after the
snap, letting them be that creator distributor

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that he showed throughout his career at
Alabama. And showed that he could do

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at an extremely high level. And
so I would expect the offense to look,

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you know, like that, to
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it. Let him get the ball
quickly, attack horizontally, attack to space,

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get players to football, you know, to let them create after the

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catch, and then take your shots
downfield as well, because he's a tremendously

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talented quarterback and he can make any
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it needs to be, regardless of
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think, like I said, whoever
the draft is going to be in a

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position to be successful. But I
think of brush on, the talent they

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have in the building around the quarterback
position will put him in a position to

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be successful. Yeah, I go
those sentiments on Bryce Young, who still

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remains, in many eyes, the
favorite to go to Carolina. But hey,

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look it's two days away. We'll
see what happens on thee Mark Skifield

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ESPN dot Com is our guest here
breaking down the draft. Let's talk well

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Levis for a minute. The stock
is rising here so to speak. Gods

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go to number one Vegas today,
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Maybe that's just the betting odds,
and we see this every year.

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But let's assume will Levis will be
going pretty high in this draft. We

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all agree on that. What are
the traits? What do you like?

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You work with Liam Cohen obviously up
there in Kentucky. He's got experienced under

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center, But give us an idea
of what the concerns might be about his

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game. We know the arm,
talent, is it footwork? Is it

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mechanics? He's had an interesting ride
at Kentucky, a lot of injuries around

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a lot of guys that were out, He had some injuries. What's your

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assessment of will Evis and your projection
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who is some quarterbacks, you know, particularly Bryce you on Stroud, you

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might have a question, well,
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they don't have you know, was
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to Garrett Wilson and Marvin Harrison Junior. What's life going to be like?

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Right? You know? You almost
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them adjusting to the perhaps different level
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step back when they get to an
NFL roster. It's the flip side of

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Levis. I mean, whenever the
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you know, in that conference room
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what he did last year. But
he played with last year, and you've

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seen some articles and reported about him
in the past couple of days that,

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oh, you know, he had
one good receiver to throw to. The

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offensive line wasn't great around him,
you know, second offensive coordinator in two

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years from Cohen to Scangarrello, and
he was banged up, he was getting

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his shoulder injections, he had the
toe injury. Those are gonna be a

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lot better for him in our system, in our environment, on our roster,

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with our talent, and so it's
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can make the case that they will
get better for him when he gets to

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the NFL, and some stability will
certainly help him. Now, for work

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is an issue, you know,
and you wonder if the toe injury had

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a part to do with that.
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lined up, the hallway isn't set, as we like to say when we're

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talking mechanics, and that's led to
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you know, but the armed talent
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He's what we like to call the
guy that gets the quote pro style

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offense tag right, doing the under
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turning this back to the defense.
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quarterback. He's doing at the next
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more than some of the other guys
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foundation to build on. And I
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when Carolina was sitting at nine,
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I said about the offensive staff and
the experience of wisdom they have were still

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in place. I thought, Okay, well, if they end up with

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quarterback four and it's Bill Levis,
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can do and how they can develop
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past at different stops around the NFL. And so I still think it's a

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very talented quarterback prospect. Yes,
he's Q before, but I still expect

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them on this Q before in my
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call up the board in the top
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me. One would certainly surprise me, right, But we've both lived enough

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NFL drafts to realize that you can't. You know you're going to get surprised

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along the way, whether it's a
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to happen, or something will happen
on Thursday, and it's going to lead

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us all a little surprise. That's
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Dude, I gotta pay bills,
and I have any time for that trauma.

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As we talked about, Will Levis
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at least from Vegas' perspective, maybe
projected number one that but we'll see what

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happens. Mark Scofield, espionation dot
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Yeall's mock draft there. You got
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still think that's a really unique fit
for him. And I look at Richardson,

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Anthony Richardson from Florida, tell me
if I'm wrong here, and I

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think Chris Ballard from talking people around
the league, you get the sense they

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kind of lean Levis there. Maybe
I don't have my fact straight, but

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I look at Shane Stikeen, I
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what they could do with Anthony Richardson. Maybe not right off the bat in

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week one, but give him sort
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a blueprint there right to make that
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where does he fit in and how
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one starter? Maybe he needs time? Do you ostimize the offense? Just

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help our listeners understand the Anthony Richardson
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absolutely right. I'm one pcent with
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with jam And Hurts in Philadelphia,
how he developed him over the past two

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seasons from a quarterback that you know, this time last year they were acquiring

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a future first round pick as a
hedge on jam And Hurts. A year

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later and he's the highest faid player
in NFL history. I mean, that's

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a record of that's a record of
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perhaps replicating Indianapolis. If you're a
Colts fan and I look at Richardson,

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and you know, I think it's
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because you know, the athletics is
in the ability to use Richardson in the

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run game, the ability to develop
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I think Indianapolis would be a fantastic
destination for him, and I would be

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surprised if he's available when the Cults
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a different direction. But again,
I expect some surprises later on this week.

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Now. As far as Richards in
the prospect, I know there's this

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I idea in some circles that he
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know, I don't know about that. I've put them back on it a

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little bit because I think he just
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Thank you. Yes, let's go. Let's get him out there,

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my bullets, baby, no better
time than the president. I'm with you,

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Mark. And I don't know if
it's a week one thing, but

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I always like to use kind of
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You know, I look at Halloween, I look at Thanks Give and

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I look at New Year's right,
I'd like to see him on the field

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around Halloween. You know, it
depending on the situation and how things are

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going for the team that ultimately drafts
him. You know, because you watch

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him on film and I played that. You know, we go through this

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process and play stick in our mind
that we use on shows and radio shows

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and things like that. But he
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smash. You get the corner route
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And they showed him too deep safeties
middlefield open, priest. Now they

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spent its middle, they show middlefield
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So cover one to cover two or
cover three to cover two. Yeah,

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right at the snap and he gets
his eyes right to that curl flat defender

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in the right flat moves him down
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the last step of his drap hits
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perfect place. Yeah, it's like
he does out. Yeah, he

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does how to play the game.
But that's the narrative. You got to

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kill right. He can process,
he could process. His eyes tend to

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be right. It's sometimes other things
are got to get caught up. And

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when a quarterback's eyes tend to be
right, that makes you think they don't

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need time to learn from the sidelines, right, They need time on the

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field to just go out and do
it. And so you know, maybe

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it's not weak one, but sooner
rather than later. I want to see

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him on the field as a rookie. The ceiling is so high with him,

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and you put him in like I
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zone read there. You could rush
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sixty forty team at first, like
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twenty two seasons. Maybe it's just
too obvious, but you know the owner

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there has a heavy hand. Maybe
he likes somebody else. You never know

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what Jim say. It's a draft
week frenzy here on a Tuesday and game

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on quickly, Mark, we got
about forty five seconds for this one.

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CJ. Stroud. I don't want
to talk S two testing because honestly,

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I don't remember enough about it.
I just don't want to get into it.

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But in terms of the traits,
in terms of how he projects,

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give us maybe a forty five second
elevator pitch for CJ. Strout as a

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ball placement specialist, there are some
throws there. He could not walk down

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forty yards down field and handed to
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spot than he actually did throwing it
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look at you know the questions with
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get them to where he needs to
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to be fixed? You know,
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and I saw a fantastic port recently. You know, when it comes to

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the draft, some general managers,
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you want, but sometimes you want
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Right. It gets you to second
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And maybe CJ. Stroud is to
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maybe he doesn't have the explosive creativity
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but might not make you look foolish
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the football where in last I checked
John, that's a pretty big part of

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the job. Yeah, that's that's
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talk to guys like good buddy Greg
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If he can't put it where it
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And that's the name of the game. CJ's got that motion, it's so

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smooth. But we'll see what happens
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question, don't know if you heard
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Who hum? I was off the
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show Mark and I get halfway the
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be a dummy and say, yeah, you know, Rogers don't know if

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this trade will happen. That's two
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that's the perfect Johalist moment there.
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we knew it probably happened at some
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is good for everybody involved here,
including Jordan Love. And let's talk about

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him specifically. We know Rodgers is, you know, one of the best

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quarterbacks we've seen. He'll be fine
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in Jordan Loves projecting. We saw
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years ago. Do you have a
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know, carry the torch and progress
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to bring in some competition. Well, I think the best vote of confidence

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you can get, you know,
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Love is, like you just said, this is one of the best quarterbacks

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of all time and Aaron Rodgers,
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wait to move on, could not
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And you know, Tyler Don Bob
McGinn have done some incredible reporting over

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the past couple of months about the
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you know, we've only seen glimpses
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him every day, you know,
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There was a lot of excitement about
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his final season in Utah, stayed
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in the quarterback in one of that
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different direction. But you still see
moments from him on film where the arm

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is there, the velocity of the
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plays in the downfield passing game.
Now, I think they're gonna have to

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sort of bring them along a little
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of this Rogers trade is, you
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capital, perhaps as a hedge if
things go self. But they were excited

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to move to Love. They're excited
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That tells me that they think they've
got something with Jordan Loan. All right,

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good bye you, Jordan Love Jersey
spolks, book them, Let's go.

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the F one drive. We've got
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by John. So I'm writing that
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passed you know, football, Mark
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and so it'll be a fun F
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