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The following is a presentation of Playfly
Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties.

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Welcome everybody. It's Tuesday night,
eight o'clock, Mark seven, twenty twenty

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three. I'm your host, Jason
straight Harden, my co host Otis Wiley

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and Jay you to too, cochrt
and this is Spartan. Man. Do

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we have a jam packed shown?
We have some special guests today. Got

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a lot of stuff to cover,
guys, like talk like how how you

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guys feeling that? How much the
weekend treat you? Guys? I am

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feeling good. It's Tuesday, you
know good, good weekends. Pancakes over

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the weekend. I got some pancakes
or t bone steaks and eggs. All

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I was missing was the welch is
great? Is great? And listen,

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listen we talked about that t bone
stood no chance that thing. Yeah,

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we we mean to We got we
got. We gotta photo. That's he

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put it on social, didn't you. No? I just sent it to

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you, guys. I couldn't know
the whole community. See how clean we

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gotta we gotta share it with the
audience and let them see what's going on.

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Man. And uh yeah, you
got a little bit of stating,

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all right, let me just let
me tell you guys what we're gonna get

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right into it. We don't have
any time to waste right now. We

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got a special guest right now that
we want to bring on straight from the

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Board of Trustees. The chairman person
on the board, Doctor Riema Faster,

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joins the show. Welcome to the
show. Doctor, Hey, how good?

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How are you doing well? You
know that always kills it kills me

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when people say chairman. Uh,
he said, correct, correct him right

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now. I mean you can't really
just say chair and call a day,

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right, but certainly not a man, he said, chairperson, didn't you

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No, No chair person on the
board. Wow, wow, is not

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here and the first African American female
elected as a chair. Now see now

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you're get in your mouth right.
I appreciate it, right, don't be

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right. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you all. Thank you

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for having me, little old me. Thank you on this big old show.

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We try and we're trying to climb
up there. We're trying to get

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what you're doing. Big things.
The opening, y'all, like this is

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spartan for real. I was expecting
the gladiators come on out this I like

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it. I like it. I
like it. Here, let's get right

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into it. So, I mean, so, talk to us a little

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bit about your background. I know
that you we ran for the board seats

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at the same time back in twenty
twenty. That's when we met as a

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as a you know, elected members
of you know, the state of Michigan.

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I was running for the state Board
of Education. You ran for Michigan

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State. Your background. You went
to Eastern Michigan in UCLA. Correct,

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No, I did not go to
Eastern Michigan. I used to teach it.

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Yeah, so I'm a Bronco initially. Yeah, Western was my undergrad

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I always know I wanted to be
a teacher, and Michigan Western had the

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was the number one teacher preparation program
in the country. At one point it

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was a teacher's college. So I
went there to get all my training to

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be an English teacher. Then I
moved to Cali right after that, and

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I started teaching in Long Beach,
bellfl Pasadena, Downey. I was a

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teacher, counselor a principal, and
in twenty fourteen I had to move back

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to Michigan. My mother had a
liver transplant and I decided, Okay,

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well let's see what we could do
here. I don't know how I ended

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up on the board. Two point
four people two point four million people decided

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I was an okay candidate. I
guess that's awesome. Yeah, you know

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you mentioned Pasadena. I had spent
some time pad old time, old town

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Pasadena, now Diana. So I
was until twenty fourteen, I was a

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counselor at job your high school.
Okay, yeah, you know last times

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Richmond High they field that in Pasadena. It's a beautiful, beautiful school,

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but a lot of a lot of
issues, a lot of kids with issues.

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But we went to the Rose Bowl
while I was there to play,

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So there's that right, right,
definitely, And the football team Smith just

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said, doctor, we don't play. I'm not for the games. That's

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my dad used to saying, I
ain't for the games. Doctor Reima,

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thank you for coming on the show
tonight spending some time with us. Uh,

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you know, want to know strengths
that come So what I mean at

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that point, what you're gonna do? When do you need me? Brother?

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There? Give me? Can you
give me the link? Sir?

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Can you give me the link?
Here? I'm checking out this check not

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you on your phone? What the
listen? Every time he travels, we

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just we got to get him up. I gotta get him. I mean,

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look, it's a good backround.
Is the graduate you'll I didn't know

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you're I said, okay, yeah, that is the graduate you got you

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a little sweet too, good job. Okay, that's that's how they graduates

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treats you. So anytime you make
sure you come to the graduate this is

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like that. I mean the name
drop right, I'm a strange friend,

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can I I'm glad you dropped that. Drop What I need to do?

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Take my notes right now and put
it down because they have me. Never

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mind, I'm not go ahead.
What's the question now? I know you've

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been Uh, there's been a lot
of current events happening obviously when you're you've

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been a part of the board.
And you know one thing I saw you,

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which was when when I saw you
in New York were the Rutgers.

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I tried to make my way over
there, but security blocked me from getting

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off from my baseline seat. I
saw you in New York were Rutgers Madison

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Square Garden. Yeah, they won't
let you down there. Yeah. I

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was like, I got the credential
and everything. It was like, sir,

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that the game is going on right
now. You gotta wait, and

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you should you should have waved.
I would have come to get you that

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in certain space is not at the
graduate obviously, in some certain spaces,

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I got a little bit of juice. Yeah, we got next time,

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definitely, definitely what it was.
It was a great game, but that

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was where you know, my wife
is her her alma mater is Rutgers,

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and so we gotta we got in
house rivalry, and uh it took it

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to us. I thought we could
win that game. But you know,

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you've been a part of some some
obviously some things that has happened on campus.

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But I guess take us, take
us through like just how how everything

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has kind of evolved in how we
as Spartans are trying to just you know,

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one heal from what happened with the
mass shooting, but you know there

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is business that has to get back
to normal. But kind of talk talk

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through like what's happening right now,
you know for Spartan fans of lums as

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we kind of got eyes all on
us in East Lancia. Yeah, so

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I kind of feel like Michigan State. Just you know, it's like take

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that take that is no breaks,
right, It's a kind of a protracted

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trauma. So there's a lot of
work to be done on this board.

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And that didn't that didn't help.
Right. This this event that occurred on

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February thirteenth, on a random Monday
right in USA, it was it kind

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of knocked us on our heels.
So I have a daughter who's an alleged

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senior at Michigan State. Hopefully she'll
be graduating by to stay weekend. I

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crossed all my fingers and my toes
and we'll see what happened. We'll see

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what happens. But she was sheltered
in place for those four hours. So

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right after I got the call that
there was a shooter, she called me.

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And that was probably one of the
first times I picked up right away

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because generally she asked for money,
so you know, decline it's a voicemail.

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But I did pick up, and
she was you know, I heard

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were helicopters and police cars. Right, it was really really bad. So

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for four hours, I'm checking on
her and she's in the in the bathroom,

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locked in her her room on campus, and I'm also trying to keep

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up with the updates right from the
chief of police and from the interim president,

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Teresa Woodruff. So uh, that
night was kind of was kind of

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rough up until about two o'clock am. Uh, just trying to make sure

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students were safe and I'm I'm getting
these you know, updates, but I'm

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also fielding all my family saying,
you know, it's baby girl okay.

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But then also trying to watch the
news. And that was intense because on

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the news I kept seeing a lot
of students out outside right about and I'm

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thinking, wait, there's a shooter, Like, why aren't these kids and

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I call them kids they're actually young
adults, but they're they're babies right There's

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they're nineteen eighteen year old children who
are out out on the campus, which

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is always safe. It's always a
safe place to be. You know,

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Michigan State is a land grand institution. It's open to the community. People

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come there, bring their children there, to the gardens, to the you

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know, to play. They you'll
go for a spring practice, for a

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spring ball practice. I mean,
it's a place that you're supposed to come

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and feel safe and secure. And
really, that shooter that night destabilized our

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sense of security and safety at that
campus. It was not our best moment

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as a nation, but it's indicative
of larger issues. Right what happened at

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Michigan State happens every day around the
nation. So there's got to be some

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changes made. But since then,
what I wasn't anticipating was this kind of

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outpourn. When I tell you Spartans
are the salt of the earth, I

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do mean that. And it's not
a local community, it's not a state

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wide community. It's an international global
community that came and just poured love,

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empathy, compassion, resources onto that
campus for about oh I would say,

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ten days straight, just hitting us
with all kinds of support in every way

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that you can think of. The
worst part, probably the worst day of

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my life, actually was calling those
parents of those children who were killed.

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I mean that was several gut punches
in rapid succession, just to talk to

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folks who had sent their children to
college, sent their babies to college,

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and their children were not coming back
home. No parent ever would anticipate something

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like that. Making those phone calls
I thought was necessary as the chair,

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but that was that was difficult.
I went to visit all the families in

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the hospital. Uh. And when
Sparrow that that facility, they took so

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such great care of them and the
community also. I mean there was food

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and blankets everywhere to the point where
they couldn't handle all of the things that

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were being sent to those families.
And so that that kind of support and

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outpouring is really what ms U is
about. And you know, our heads

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are about but not broken. I
think through tragedy every time in my life

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where there's been uh, something that
I felt like wasn't you know, wasn't

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ideal. But sometimes even you know
traumatic, uh, we're are resilient people.

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So we come back bigger, better, batter depper. And that's what's

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gonna happen at ms U. So
there's you know, security that's being tightened

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up. There's some some some safety
issues that we need to to to kind

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of shore up. But for me, all the police, the police communities

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that you know, we had the
FBI, we had uh Lancing, uh

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State Police, we had Lancing local
police, East Lancing local Police, Michigan

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State Chief Marlon Lynch. They all
came together with the coordinated effort in that

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moment. But I don't know that
you can ever be completely prepared, and

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I think they did everything they had
prepared to do and executed in a way

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that was partning to see. But
also I think emblematic or model for other

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folks. And so, yeah,
that is it's been really tough. But

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also it gives you hope in humanity
that people came like that and rallied like

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that, gives you a hope for
the future that you know only ms you

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could give. So I'm grateful that
I was there at such a time as

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that. I'm a licensed counselor,
so I was, you know, able

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to speak to people with a trumpa
informed the language, and I think that

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was important for me to be in
leadership at that moment. Absolutely. I

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mean, you know talk about you
know, so you being a licensed counselor

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in your background, so you think
made a fast track to be the chair

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of Michigan State Board of Trustees.
I waited two years, the whole two

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years, right, How long is
the term? For everybody that doesn't know

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how long? It's an eight year
sentences. That's what I keep telling them.

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There's three words lunteer. Y'all think
that I get paid for this,

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I really don't. And so I
think people think also, you know,

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you get to go to all the
games, you know, the first collegiate

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game. I'm pretty much a nerd, right you. I kind of stopped

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it at Western, but I have
a PhD from UCLA in education. I'm

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a nerd. I read, I
write, write, I read, and

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I write some more. That's what
I do our research and present all around

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the world and teach leadership. Right
I'm a nerd. So the first collegiate

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game I've ever attended in all the
years that I've been a college student and

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a college professor was the Nebraska MSU
game when I became a board member and

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I felt obligated to go, and
it took everything I had not to bring

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my laptop because I had other things
to do. You know, like sure,

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there's breaks. You know there's breaks, there's you know, there's time

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outs, there's you know, there's
a halftime. I felt like I get

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some work done in between what you
really can't because you're on the whole time.

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People like you get to go to
all the games. I'm like,

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man, and really, honestly,
that Michigan Michigan State game. I'll never

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do that again, never in life. I will never. I'm pretty tough.

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I've been fighting since kindergarten. I've
been non violence since nineteen ninety nine.

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But I used to a lot.
I generally don't feel unsafe in spaces.

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I felt like, oh wait,
it can really, it can really

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pop off in this space. Like
everybody's drunk for like three days straight before

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they get to the game, right, and a whole bunch of I'm like,

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wait a minute, a whole bunch
of drunk people with all this adrenaline.

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I might have to knuckle up,
and I don't want to do that.

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I'm a professionally money but if you
have to, I've been, I

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practiced non violence. I'm not expert, Okay, right, every day I

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have to make a decision to love. Every day. I have to choose

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love and not violence. Yeah,
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for real. Oh yeah, yeah, Jesus not me. My pronouns

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are My pronouns are threats. Tracking
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you you know, alluded to a
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on the board of trustees, and
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that people don't know, like one, you know, it's a volunteer kind

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of and then it's you know,
like you said, it's an eight year

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term. But also too, you
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I'm pulling the curtains back and everything
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like a barbershop here, you know, so I don't go to the barbershops,

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sir, that's another place, not
that face salon. Yeah, when

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when the salon? When the shop? You know? Okay, yeah,

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because you know that, you know, that's when it happens. That's when

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it's talking. Happens when you're at
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does. Okay, So now can
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people don't know, like what what
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the athletics side of things? From
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you know, budgetary stuff nil coming
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funds going to different places and everything
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of Trustees play in that? Yeah? So the board is really high level

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governance. Right. We don't get
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operations of the university. But because
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a big community that comes around to
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collective around sports, the board has
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biggest teams, right, and the
biggest teams you you might not you know,

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really think about in even like hockey
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women's gymnastics is a big deal,
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making managerial or you know, budgetary
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of the ad The board that predates
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then I think he'll probably be the
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he's beloved, he really has no
bosses, so he can say as

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long as he wants to. But
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the board, then I'll be engaged
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high profile positions. But generally we're
advisory, right. We we will come

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together to kind of talk about who
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end, when they've selected the committees
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weigh in. Uh. In the
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and and Adi Haller is kind of
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he'll he'll talk to the board a
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He'll come and talk to the board
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know, goals that he has in
terms of fundraising, goals that he has

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in terms of beefing up facilities,
things like that. He'll come. He

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he engages the board and uses the
eclectic talent. Right. We have a

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diverse set of folks on this on
this board with all kinds of reach,

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all kinds of expertise, and he
leans on the board in ways that I

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think are appropriate. So we're because
it is it is who says, Uh,

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sports are the front the front porch
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to be engaged in ways that we
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of the institution. So we just
got a briefing from Alan Howard this morning

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at eight am. Right, So
it's kind of intense. It's kind of

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intense. I've learned a lot,
right, I've been faculty, so again

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a nerd, but I had to
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what is necessary to have a fan
experience. Where we rank in terms of

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our facilities and other schools, particularly
the se the sec you know, having

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visited those campuses, we look like
sometimes like a high school outfit right our

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facility, So in IL we we
try to stay away from. We did

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have one trustee who rolled off here
last year who was more engaged, but

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we try to stay out because it's
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if we want talent, we have
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south right, who who bleed football
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in different ways. And so h
we we've dibbled and dabbled in the NIL

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conversations, but we try to stay
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it's still uh, what's the word
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regulation. It's deregulated a lot.
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but that's exactly what it is.
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competitive. If we don't have NIL
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Yeah, so I'm going to jump
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give me a ship because they said
I always hug up for all the questions

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and everything. But well you don't
care. You don't care. I respected

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I respect it. You know,
you hit on it a little bit about

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keeping up with everybody, and you
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is now coming to that keeping up
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you know otis he's traveled to different
places and he comes back with all

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these like wow, you know,
was at LSU. It's a great fan

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experience. Jason, He's been all
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especially now Jason's you know, starting
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his his his family side of things. What does Michigan State have to do

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or what are we missing to get
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stadium's packed the fan engagements there or
like, you know, the university,

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you know, that's the spot to
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as a university and everything. Where
what steps do we have to take to

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be like oh Man MS used to
place to b Yeah, So there's a

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couple of things that we've thought about. Right, We obviously need some upgrade

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and a lot of our facilities because
the fan experience is the draw, right,

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the controversial piece right, there are

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a couple of trustees who have really
pushed to sell alcohol. I think that's

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important. You know, I don't
drink, I can drink, I don't

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drink again a full nerd. I've
never spoked marijuana a day of my life.

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I don't I don't drink. I
don't do those things. But I

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do know people drink and that oh
wow, okay, so yeah, so

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on the job. On the job, they dreak. So so I do

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know that it's important. And really
that Michigan Michigan State game, let me

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know, we could be getting paid. I mean, I'm telling you they

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drank for three days before they got
to the game, and so they're already

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falling down getting carried out the stadium. If we have the alcohol there,

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I think it actually would be safer
because people wouldn't be getting drunk before they

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get there, and we could also
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And so I wasn't really a big
proponent, but after that Michigan Michigan State

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game, I was a believer.
Yes, with the alcohol is to be

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here and we should be profiting off
of that. So I think that's another

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It's a controversial topic, but I
think we have the legislative support at this

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point to to kind of make that
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And then we you know, we
gotta win. Nothing else, nothing

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else, fan like winning. But
then but it's all connected. You know,

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if you're if you're touring East Lansing
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La right only because you know that's
where I spent most of my adult life,

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you have to convince me. I
mean, it's snowing, right,

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it looks it looks kind of sparse, right, doesn't look like there's a

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lot of a lot happening in terms
of nightlife. You have to convince me

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with the facilities. You have to
also convinced me with the relationships. Right,

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So relationship to the a good coaching
staff who's building a culture that is

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inviting and family, like I think
is really really important. So we who

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we recruit for talent in terms of
the coaches is really really important too.

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It's the total package. And so
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ad who sees that vision. Two
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vision. Having been other places,
I think coach Tucker knows the difference.

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And again I was able to see
for myself. We went to Alabama,

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we went to Georgia State, we
went to there's one more place I went

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where Auburn rich and rich, right, Like, it was just like a

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completely different environment than what we have
in Michigan State. And we it's not

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like we are short. You know, Isshbia, our largest don't just got

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Man of the Year for Crane's business. Right We were at his little function

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this afternoon to commemorate all the work
that he's done. He's still opening his

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pocketbook. We just got to tell
him where to give the money. There's

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all these other spartans who are committed
to seeing our athletics program shine, and

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so we really have to have a
vision and make it plain so that we

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can execute because they'll they'll bring the
money. All we got to do is

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you know what do they say,
you build it, they will come exactly.

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Yeah. Yeah, So I think
it's the whole situation is the fan

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experience, it's the coaches, but
it's also facilities. And then you know,

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when you get there, what kind
of community do students student athletes feel

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like they have when they get there? Because East Lansing is vastly different than

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other campuses. Right, it's kind
of isolated in a lot of ways.

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I look, I look back,
and well, we had we had no

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city more than what we had back
back in the day. You know,

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you talked about I'm living and breathing
all what you mentioned, right, Like,

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I manage all the corporate partnerships,
and so when you talk about,

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you know, the beer category,
we have all of our beer partners that

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are year to year just waiting,
like they're just waiting and just keep asking

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when when When when you know,
we keep telling them like, hey,

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it's legislation. It's legislation hasn't been
improved yet. We got all this stuff

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happening. You know, when do
you feel that it could it could pass

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and we are free game to get
a big time foreign rights deal. Because

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to your point, I've seen the
revenue. I've seen the numbers of what

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will come in, and I'm like, you know, basically, we all

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gonna eat if we can get that
done. Like I don't legit, like

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if I'm here, I'm here to
stay. Like that's gonna be a good,

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good years and a couple of years
in the future if we can get

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that done. But when do you
feel like we're there or we're like still

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long, no, no, no, we're this close. And I think

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under my tenure as chair, like
I go back and forth like do I

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want a full two years? This
is a two year sentence to be the

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chair, but you know I'm thinking
of maybe short in that school year and

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it kind of just like hit it
hard and move on. And so within

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my tenure, that's one of my
biggest goals, right is to think of

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innovative ways to bring money into the
cow into the university. But athletics is

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the biggest way to do that,
right, and so that NIL. But

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then co branding, I think,
you know, there's other universities who have

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co branding relationships and somehow ms SHE
is late to the game on this.

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What I've noticed about ms SHE is
it's kind of risk adverse. And you

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know, I major it in English, so you know, I can barely

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add I'm out here, you know, on my fingers and toes, and

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but what I do know is how
to count dollar bills. And for me,

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the coke branding is kind of like
a no brainer, Like if someone

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else is well, is willing to
take the brand and sell merchandise and put

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it back into NIL why are we
not doing this? Right? So it's

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really thinking about creative ways to bring
in sponsorships with partnerships and being less risk

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averse. I think the wildlife West
is a good term. And what happens

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with the SEC is they make all
the moves and they don't even they never

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ask for permission, never, never, But they don't even ask for forgiveness,

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right because I'm that kind of person, right, I'll I'll just be

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like, yeah, yeah, oh
I didn't know, my bad, right,

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Like, I'll do that after the
worst. They don't even say my

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bad. They're like whatever and come
for me, Like I like that energy.

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Just if there's no regulations, then
we're not regulated. That's how I

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feel, right Like, if there's
no regulations, then we should be free

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to create some things. And then
later on people can say, well maybe

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not that or maybe that, not
that. But to me, if you're

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not if you're not taking risks and
you're not creating, then you're stagnant.

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And so we and I don't think
we can afford to do that in any

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area of the university, but particularly
in athletics. So when you want when

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you when you went like this,
now for that you know how close are

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we? Like are you talking like
we're you know, fourth and one,

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you know, put treat you in
for that first down or like September second

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where we open it in central you
know, are they going to be cold

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ones in the stands or right?
So that's the goal, right, that's

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the goal is by the the fall
to be well, you know, well

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stocked. You know, I don't
know, this is the top shelf.

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I don't know, you know what
is it? It's in part domestic craft.

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H Are we going to get some
spirits in there? Some some beer?

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Wine? But if you say there's
a liquor, like I got people

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knocking right now, So a liquor
license does kind of scared because again I

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felt like, oh I didn't you
know, I did have on some tennis

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shoes, so I felt like I
can maybe get in it, you know,

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with at that Michigan game. But
I felt like this is a hectic.

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But so I don't know, can
you get premium spaces like high end

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liquor, like having like a nice
high end upscale where our donors can come

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and have this vibe and have this
full deal like I'm telling you that versus

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like yeah, beer and wine for
you know, general admission, not general

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mission, but season ticket holders that
are. But like you, I can't

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00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.679
wait, we're gonna have to talk
about that because I mean, I'm in

408
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:12.800
these meetings and I'm working here and
trying to make sure, like you know,

409
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.599
we got a lot of money on
the table, and all we need

410
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.800
is that it's time to go.
And well there's not opposition. There's not

411
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.320
opposition to it. We just had
to we got to just push through the

412
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:28.440
paperwork so we can chop it up. But we're on the same page with

413
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.960
this, definitely, definitely, And
I think with you too, Like I'm

414
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.719
in full agreement that I think and
from talking to other people other states,

415
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.599
people that have stadium to have alcohol
and stuff. Though it's gone down,

416
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.880
like the drinking issues and everything like
that in this thing, because kids aren't

417
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.280
chugging points before they come into the
game because they know, you know,

418
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.679
there's nothing in there, and they're
passing out by halftime and everything like that,

419
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.840
I think issues and problems will be
lower than it is now. I

420
00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.239
agree. I agree it's a safety
issue too. Like I said, never

421
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.199
felt unsafe in most of my adult
life, and I was like, oh,

422
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.480
these people are for real not well
right now, like it could go

423
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.519
all the way left. So yeah, I think it's a safety issue,

424
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.239
but it's also a revenue stream that
we haven't tapped into. Yeah, it

425
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.719
was definitely a tough day when we
went to Champagne Illinois in this past season

426
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.920
and you saw the beer that the
ILI and I were selling, and it's

427
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:31.320
like, if Illinois has passed us, I hate them. Illinois has passed

428
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:36.039
I hate them. And Illinois had
some of the best food in the press

429
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.880
box. We don't talk about food
in the press box. I think the

430
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.119
press box because Illinois had well,
I had someone coming. They had homemade

431
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.599
horse radish dressing for the rubens and
everything homemade. They were boasting to me,

432
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.679
Oh yeah, we have missus Nanny
that comes in every Saturday and makes

433
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.760
it in the back. I don't
want this. I don't want to hear

434
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.599
this. I don't want to hear
this. This is the thing. I

435
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.920
mean, what is ill and I
Illini and I? What is that?

436
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.480
What is that? I mean,
what even is that? And that they

437
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.880
have beat us on any metric is
really shameful in my opinion. And I

438
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.760
don't know you, that's right.
You have you been to Champagne like,

439
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:29.719
yes, they do have one fire
tackle truck though, the fire tackle truck.

440
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.840
Before we let you go, Doc
talk about, you know, the

441
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:40.400
expansion of the big ten before you
go, the l a coming in in

442
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.320
your term, your sentence while you're
trustee, they're going to be coming to

443
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.679
the dictam. How do you feel
about that? Excited? Right? So,

444
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:55.320
I think Jason knows this. I
travel to l a Oh every four

445
00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.159
to six weeks to get my hair
done. Don't tell nobody that story.

446
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.719
There's nobody on the east side right
in the state, there's no one.

447
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:15.320
First of all, I'm a little
I'm a little too old for these these

448
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.880
young hairst I get a press and
a curl, do you hear me?

449
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.440
And I'm too old to not have
edges. I'm gonna have edges, and

450
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.000
they are trying to burn them out
here in Detroit. So I don't come

451
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.239
to any place in Detroit. I
just go straight back to Beverly Hills to

452
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:37.400
my old hairdresser so she could just
press and curl my hair. So so

453
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.000
this is good for me because now
I get to go back go see a

454
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.679
game, right, and you know, I get to chop it up with

455
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:45.639
the donors and then get my hair
done and come on back. I think

456
00:37:45.679 --> 00:38:00.639
it's awesome. I think they gymnastic
trips. Uh. I'm going every sport,

457
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:07.320
every sport, every sport, every
sport, and you know, I

458
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.199
really don't. You know, U
C l A and USC, they don't

459
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.480
have quite the rivalry that Michigan State
and Michigan have. They It's no,

460
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.199
there's nothing like that rivalry that I've
ever seen Michigan State and Michigan. But

461
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:24.800
Bruins don't like the Trojans. And
so if if Michigan State can can smack

462
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:31.079
USC, it just just you know, I think, in cust words,

463
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:36.639
I'm trying to think I need them
to beat that. I need them to

464
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.159
I need them to lose to Michigan
State every single time. I need s

465
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:50.199
C to feel defeated with their with
their blood and sweat and tears and and

466
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:54.719
some meat off of their their their
shoulders and their their their their arms left

467
00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.360
on the field each time. Excited
about it. I'm excitedly your heart on

468
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:10.559
the fields, you know what it
is? So so the best games to

469
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.920
go to are the kids, right
the when you go to a high school

470
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:21.840
game or a club game for kids
that's I'm the auntie you want me on

471
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.559
that you want me in the stands. I'm an. I'm an. If

472
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:29.920
we lose, I should have probably
gotten put out the game as as a

473
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:35.760
fan because I'm going in talking about
other parents. I'm talking about I'm talking

474
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.039
about the rest I'm going and I'm
the auntie you want because I'm gonna make

475
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.159
you feel like a celebrity. Those
are the games. I hadn't been to

476
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.199
a collegiate game, but all the
kids games. Man, please, I'm

477
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.519
super super competitive. So the se
game, I need their hearts left on

478
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.320
the field. I need them to
have some marks in them, left on

479
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:01.719
the field with with cleat marks name
for the for all the games. I'm

480
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:05.400
really excited about the expansion. I
think it's going to bring you more money

481
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.039
to Oh yeah, definitely, without
a doubt, without a doubt. We

482
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.280
truly appreciate the time. We could
talk to you for a long time here,

483
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.840
I mean, very entertaining, very
information informal for us. Thank you

484
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.800
for coming on, no, thank
you for having me. This was the

485
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:27.679
highlight of my week, well actually
of this year because it has been yeah

486
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.559
man, so just thank you for
the energy, thank you for coming with

487
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:37.840
the hard questions, the hard question. We didn't want to put you out

488
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.599
there that much, but you know, we just want to. This is

489
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.039
that show. We're we're in the
living room, where on us? So

490
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:59.239
putting that hand up with that ring. We need more of these rings,

491
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.719
by the way, we need more, We need more, we need more.

492
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.239
This is awesome. You guys are
doing a great job. Anytime you

493
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.639
want me to come, let me
know. I would love to stop by.

494
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:15.320
Keep doing this. Keep putting Spartan
on the map, then Sparta Yeah

495
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.960
that's all, y'all. Do it. Keep putting us on the map.

496
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.559
Yeah, we need we need all
the great vibes and intelligent young men like

497
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:28.880
your yourself to big up us over
and over and over again. Just keep

498
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.039
up the good work. And like
I said, anytime you need me,

499
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.159
let me know. And otis we
need to chop it up about the hard

500
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.280
liquor? And uh is it the
draft and the craft craft the draft that

501
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:46.480
important domestic you know? Yeah,
yeah, okay, okay, okay,

502
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.360
all right, all right, you
that you're in the chair for us,

503
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.679
appreciate you, no problem. You
have a good night, good all right,

504
00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.239
you too, a great interview.
Many way to keep asking those questions.

505
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:07.800
Shoot you, these guys are gonna
give me. Hey, look look

506
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.960
we got no time to waste here. We'll roll right into the next situation

507
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:16.159
and with jizz Man, none other
then Chuck Brantley, who will be joining

508
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:22.400
the show with us. Sure,
what's up, hey, how y'all doing?

509
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:32.880
Is zero? The other zero?
The other zero? Let me tell

510
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:38.000
you, but the real zero?
Let me let me just ask yourself to

511
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.400
back because back when we but you
couldn't have zero. Zero just got integrated

512
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:46.840
like what two years ago? Yes, sir? Why zero? When I

513
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.920
came here, so five with my
number, Like I always like have five

514
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.000
since I was since my older brother
had it. My older brother, that's

515
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:58.760
all we reaped was number five.
I don't know why, but it's just

516
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:04.440
so we always rep But on my
way up here, coach Barnett's, I

517
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.119
asked Barnett, Well, I asked
Coach Tuck. I was like, no,

518
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:12.280
it was Barnett, I asked Bnett. I was like, it's fole

519
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:16.280
open. But I was open because
Michael Fletcher was here feel me. And

520
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.880
I was like, I was like, okay, so what it was open?

521
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.440
Then I say, nobody got zero? I came nobody was thinking of

522
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:30.119
it. I was like, okay, do y'all have zero? And Coach

523
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.199
Tuck said he can make it happen. So that's how I came. You

524
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:38.239
know. Damn. There you go, Hey Chuck Man, there's a lot

525
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.559
going There's a lot of stuff we
want to talk about with you. Man.

526
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.360
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531
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533
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534
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.400
Hop repend. Cow, come on, Cow talk to I just need to

535
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:40.800
be out here full time. Guys. No, we know, disincorporate me

536
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:49.440
into the threesome over here. You
know what's the announcement? Cow? Well,

537
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.960
So just like with Keon. We
are now extending and that nil offer

538
00:44:54.639 --> 00:45:00.519
to Chuck to be a representative here
for my local I hop and especially in

539
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.079
the Michigan area. So welcome aboard. Chuck. Would love to have you,

540
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.840
sir, you know, looking looking
forward in this partnership as well.

541
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:16.719
Look at that play right there,
the double Zeros. Yeah, what game

542
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:27.400
was that? Yeah? Hey,
congratulations, congratulations something that you know obviously

543
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.920
I have. It is a big
partner with us cows a good dude does

544
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:36.360
a lot for the university, you
know, behind the scenes that people don't

545
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.400
see, and you know, like
this here and what does this mean to

546
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:43.599
you? You know, partner with
such a you know, class organization like

547
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.079
I HOP and everything. To me, this means at this means a lot

548
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.360
to me because this is really my
first offer, really like actual big offer

549
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.800
because I get a little like and
I'll do it on the side or whatever,

550
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:07.280
but I thought I had nothing like
this major you feel me. I

551
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.119
just want to thank Kyle, you
know, appreciate you for having me on

552
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:19.880
this. Uh And you know,
shoot, I'm not really I'm not really

553
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.760
a talking person. I don't really
do interviews. You feel, my first

554
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.000
time really in the camera. It's
all good. We're in the locker room.

555
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:35.280
We're in the locker to drinks over
there. What's that? He needs

556
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:46.280
one of your drinks over there too? Like it? We need to give

557
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.800
him. We need to give him
some pancakes where he can heat him up

558
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.679
so he can get on that weight. You need that weight gain, Kyle.

559
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.320
I'm telling you, man, when
when I found out as hoodie size

560
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:04.320
was a medium, I said,
what right, the medium? That's me.

561
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:07.039
I see this. So this was
the first, you know, the

562
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:12.199
first season, I was doing some
sideline reporting for Michigan State Jason stuff in

563
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.199
the box. They're doing, uh
the color an unless they're along with George

564
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:19.360
and so I'm walking down and I
see you, you know, like walking

565
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.679
down and I'm like, damn,
man, this is how big. It's

566
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.679
like my legs bigger than chop.
But you got you out there hitting people,

567
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.639
Like Like what what? What's the
mindset? The mentality go into it?

568
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.480
Because you put everything in the and
you're a player that I look at

569
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:36.760
it and I remember the first game, you know, I'm sitting on the

570
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:42.119
animal on my phone taking notes and
I'm like, he can play, he

571
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.760
said, and soul, Like,
what's the mindset? You know back there,

572
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.960
See my mom said, when they
come to me, Dan smaller than

573
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.000
everybody on the field. I always
doing that my whole life. So I

574
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:57.119
always had to overcome of everybody saying
he too small, he can't do this.

575
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.639
But my mama always told me,
and I always on it. She

576
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.760
always told me the bigger you is, the harder you fall. And that's

577
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.559
why I always went by that the
rest of my life without a doubt,

578
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:12.840
Right, Chuck, Chuck, you
know you'll find out. Man, I

579
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.559
came in a buck seventy five,
maybe eighty wet like that. I ain't

580
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.960
have. I didn't have nobody,
but I came in a buck thirty eight.

581
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:30.280
You made me look like it's a
king. Man. But coach Manny,

582
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:31.760
and this is one of those things
you talk about, you know.

583
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.039
It was he has this good way
of like encouraging you. Right, And

584
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:38.880
so I wasn't lit the weights.
I was a three or four athlete,

585
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.480
so it's back to back, back
to back. Never really had a break.

586
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.599
But you know, I remember them
telling me we're gonna put weight on

587
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.800
you. So there's no there's no
issues. You have a frame. But

588
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.000
I remember my mentality was I got
a heart of a line. So if

589
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.119
I if I go out hit somebody, I'm an knocker. Shoulder out with

590
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.840
it, you know what I mean. But I see you right now.

591
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.239
I see you right now in the
sling, and you're resting up, you're

592
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.920
healing up. You know. Give
us, give us, give us kind

593
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.000
of a behind the curtain standpoint of
what you're going through right now to get

594
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.039
ready for for next season. Okay, So after the Indiana well, during

595
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.559
the Indiana game, uh, there
was two plays back to back with this

596
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:20.159
shoulder. So my freshman year,
I heard this versus my right shoulder versus

597
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.599
Purdue. I had surgery on this
shoulder. I ain't have a spring that

598
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:29.280
next year. I didn't play spring
at all. So fall camp came.

599
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:30.760
I started doing my thing back again. I got back in my groove.

600
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.599
Come Indiana game. You know,
it kind of chilly out there, so

601
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.679
we went to no sleeves, no
sleeves, so I'm thinking, I'm like,

602
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:44.079
okay, it's kind of coold out
here. It was two plays.

603
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.519
So one of the plays, the
running back bounce outside and then he cuts

604
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.960
it up. So I come make
the tackle. I hit him with my

605
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.239
right shoulder. Say okay, Dan, the net. The very next play,

606
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.679
the quarterback QB County comes, I
hit him with my left shoulder.

607
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.440
Also, Cali Holiday lands on me, so I'm like, okay, I

608
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:06.159
feel my shoulder. I'm like,
it doesn't feel right. I feel like

609
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:07.920
the first time I heard this one. I'm like, okay, this don't

610
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:15.599
feel right. So I look at
Coach Tuck. Well, first of all,

611
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.239
I was on all land on the
ground, Derrick Harmon, come pick

612
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:28.239
me up, like stop being soft. I was like, I'm hurting right

613
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.199
now, like my shoulder. I'm
shaking my shoulder. I look at Coach

614
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.639
Tuck. I could you not?
I see him put his mic back down

615
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:44.440
and walk the other way. I
was like, the game, if I

616
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:49.920
don't see it or here, that
doesn't happen. I've been there before.

617
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:55.079
So my comeback I feel like it's
gonna be even much stronger. As absolutely

618
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.400
question Chuck Man, you know you're
you're a later Venice High School right in

619
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.880
Florida. Man, you got a
lot of talent down there. I was

620
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.679
down there for a game this past
year. Talk about like what when did

621
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.559
you start playing the game and how
did that prepare you? You know,

622
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.920
going through Venice High School and prepare
you for playing at this level and this

623
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:21.239
you say. So I started playing. I picked up be football since I

624
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:27.519
probably like four. So my pops
only like speaking my my mom and my

625
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.880
pops they not together and nothing my
dad. You know, I always had

626
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:37.679
a relationship with my pops. You
feel me he's on he's gonna get out

627
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:44.920
of you know, he's in count
right now. Okay, So but he

628
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.519
always told me like because my older
brother was good as head like he was.

629
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.000
He's always like he was like Michael
Vick, my older brother. Like

630
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.400
everybody's appraised my older brother. You
feel me like like he's gonna be the

631
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:58.000
one. But my pops he's to
always say like, yeah, my oldest

632
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.880
son is good, but this the
one. Like he's always telling me that

633
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.440
I just never I just already played
football because I just to always walk around

634
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:09.719
with the football gloves on my hands, like uh. Then it got to

635
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:15.280
a point where I think in my
eighth grade year, well really my seventh

636
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.360
grade year, I started playing seven
or seven mm HM coach Adrian rit Ferson.

637
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.480
We communicate, but won't communicate as
much. I'll communicate when I go

638
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:30.559
back home and I need to work
out or something. But I always played

639
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.719
something self of him, and I
always I never played with people my age.

640
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.760
I always played with everybody older than
me, like the twenty eighteen class

641
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:43.559
I was. I was. I
was always played with the twenty eighteen class

642
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.400
that graduated. I always played two
grades higher than me. Then come in

643
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.599
eighth grade, I'm going to unofficial
visit to Austin p That's when I picked

644
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:58.480
up my first scholarship offer eighth grade. After that freshman year, I go

645
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.880
to Real Review High School. Before
I go to Venice, I go to

646
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.559
Review. I played there for two
years. Sophomore year I had an interception

647
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:19.360
record at nine interceptions. Yeahn low, Yeah, so uh I'm that.

648
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:23.679
I say after that season, like
that spring coming up, like I'm not

649
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.199
feeling the more. I wanted to
play with better competition. There wasn't nothing

650
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.639
about Review, It's just I wanted
to play it better competition. So and

651
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.159
Venice always had a national schedule that
they always played. But it was like

652
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.159
from my city day thirty minutes away. So I had to go. I

653
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:45.320
transferred to a private school and Bradys
in Florida. Nah. I drove every

654
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:50.760
ubert or. I caught a route
with someone every day forty minutes and all

655
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.719
we went to Venice and wow,
coach Peacock, that coach be different,

656
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.840
Like he don't smile, he barely
talked. The only time you're talking is

657
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:07.400
about football. Ah. But like
they just showed me like they they always

658
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.639
like praise me like these like Okay, I know he gonna come hit.

659
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:17.239
They always my biggest thing since I've
been in high school, like literally with

660
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:24.880
wait always my whole life. But
my biggest downfall. I don't think it's

661
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:29.000
not a downfall you you you have
a heart of a line, you come

662
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:31.039
out, you come hitting and everything
like that. It is not a downfall

663
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.840
that you know your weight, your
size. I think that elevates you,

664
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.159
like I know it elevates me a
lot. But at the end of the

665
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.320
day, I gotta be able to
hold up if I want to play that

666
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.960
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I
hop you. I hop you well,

667
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:52.679
I'm gonna play right. I was
gonna pature those protein pancakes. How do

668
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.000
you how do you how do you
eat? How do you? As Jason

669
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.880
saying, how do you attack your
stats? How do you eat your pancakes?

670
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:00.400
What kind of in case you like? Are you a plain guy?

671
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:06.760
Chocolate chip? I like chocolate chip
pancakes. Chocolate chip pancakes, and how

672
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.079
do you cut them? How do
you cut them? You just used the

673
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.960
four you cut him in a certain
design. I get a butter knife,

674
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.920
I go down the middle. I
folded and cut cut them in forest.

675
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:25.559
You know you're teaching notice over here, that's a strategy there. But you

676
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:34.519
say this, O can't here You're
so low, So you cut it in

677
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.159
force and then so you just eat
four pieces. Uh, it depends on

678
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:42.840
mean pancakes. I got Coney Island
as parties. Corny Island, they pancakes.

679
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:47.719
Is like. I was like,
I remember one time I went there.

680
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.239
I have this is me and I
did Willie. We went there to

681
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.079
go eat. So I'm ordering the
pancakes. But the lady she's asking me,

682
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.360
like, are you sure, like
you want three pancakes. I was

683
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.039
like yeah. So they brought it
to the table. I'm like, I'm

684
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:09.960
like crazy, I know that's huge. Made the same mistake, man,

685
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:15.280
those things are huge. Like,
but now from one a quarter of one

686
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.679
is a whole short stack. And
I go ahead. Now you can throw

687
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:21.679
you can throw that Cony Island.
You can go to the eye Hop,

688
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.519
you can get yourself out of a
T bone steak. You can got a

689
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:30.920
T bone steak, four eggs and
a stack of pancakes on t bowe steak

690
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:36.280
sound headed the other night, man, it was hit. It was like

691
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:37.840
it was to the point my wife
looked, we're eating, and then I

692
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.760
was cut it around there, and
then I look right. I looked left,

693
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.079
owing upstide nine on it. My
wife looks, she's like, you

694
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.199
got to stop. But I will
tell you this. He was not lying.

695
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.519
He did separate the pancakes, put
a little butter on each one of

696
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:54.599
them and attacked them separately around the
plate. And I walked by, I

697
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.039
go, you were not kidding when
you said that on the podcast. Literally

698
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.719
do this. Hold on, Calvin, you're inaccurate when you said a little

699
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:08.079
butter, it was a lie.
Yeah, yeah. Make sure every every

700
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:14.519
bike gets butter and every bike gets
ser up. Oh my goodness, I

701
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:17.159
can't. Oh no, I just
can't have my my pancakes all like soggy.

702
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:22.000
You feel me, If you eat
it fast, it doesn't get soggy.

703
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:31.199
For the mississ State football coming up
this year, you know you got

704
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:35.079
you know you had a great season
two years ago, but you were here

705
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.639
and then you had a drop off
this year, no bowl game. What

706
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:42.079
in your mind do you think this
needs to happen to misis safe for you

707
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.239
guys to get back to where you
were before. I feel that what needs

708
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.639
to happen with us. I feel
like our team chemistry to come back together

709
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.000
because my freshman year all team chemistry
in the locker rooms, like it needs

710
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.199
to be every morning, like it
don't matter. We can have like because

711
00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:00.280
you know certain people come in like
certain different times, but we always coming

712
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.639
there. But everybody come to the
locker room like everybody was together. So

713
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.679
like we'll get on live, we'll
be making it like everybody be turned out

714
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.920
early in the morning at seven am, like even at the practice we turned

715
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:14.559
up like throughout the day, like
everybody in that same esh and the locker

716
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.440
room, the training room and then
before we get our food at and it's

717
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:22.480
like the schedularius. You feel me
like team chemistry. I feel like that's

718
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:28.000
the big thing with us because everybody
be on you want to be oh,

719
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.000
like I gotta have this that spot, like just my spot, Like everybody

720
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:36.519
is just for theyself right now.
That's awes. So you're not You're not

721
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:38.280
the first person to come out and
say that about that. What do you

722
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.039
think that is that this year?
You know, I know, you know

723
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.840
there's the transfer stuff and everything like
that, Like what do you think that

724
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:55.280
breaks that chemistry? Honestly, I
feel like as players, like even if

725
00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:00.880
our coach is not like my freshman, our coaches fairly around like that,

726
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.519
but all the players, we always
used to be around each other, like

727
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.960
every single day, like by the
week like three sixty five. So it

728
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:12.760
was like you had no choice but
like bond with him, like cause that's

729
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.119
your brother at the end of the
day. And you think that he got

730
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.719
away from that, Yeah, I
kind of fell out. We got away

731
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:23.719
from that. How uh you know
the way the train, the locker rooms

732
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:30.199
like on North End zone feel me
then you got we go eat breakfast inside

733
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.000
the scandalar aias the trainer is still
in the same spot, but everybody come

734
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.559
in at different times, Like we
got sessions like offense lift, defense lift

735
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:43.440
or it be skilled me and bigs, you know, but everybody's not together

736
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.079
at the time, like everybody like
skill go lift first in the morning,

737
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.800
we'd be ready to go home,
like we go get our stuff out way

738
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:52.719
and go home. Mis come in, they be finna get ready to they

739
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.480
finna get ready to start. At
right after we're done, they finna get

740
00:59:55.480 --> 01:00:00.280
ready to start. Then after they
start, the admit the big start,

741
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:05.559
they're finna get ready to start,
and everybody just go their separations after they

742
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.840
be the facility, Like people barely
even go to the locker room. Still.

743
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:14.119
Oh, so this is something due
to the construction that's going on at

744
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.239
Miss State for the new facility.
So you're saying, because you guys are

745
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:22.599
displaced and it's not a lot of
room, that it's messing up the team

746
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:27.960
chemistry. Yes, sir, and
that's what ut ill last your team.

747
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.960
I feel like we're supposed to win
it all. Feel just the players we

748
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.960
had, like we supposed to win
it all. We wasn't a little sorry

749
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:37.519
team, like we just went out
there think it'd be better than what we

750
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:45.719
was and everybody was for theirself and
it just wasn't working like that. That's

751
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:53.039
interesting. So inside, yeah,
as a you might not have to answer

752
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:54.840
to this, but you know,
as a guy, you know, now

753
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:59.719
you're a fat you know you've been
there two seasons going on your third.

754
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:02.639
Now you're bad. What do you
feel you have to do to bring the

755
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:08.760
team together. I feel like I
have to show them more off the field

756
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.320
stuff and more on the field because
of the on the field, I'm good

757
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.480
on the field, great off I'm
great on the field, But off the

758
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.920
field, I still have some running
and doing some maturity of the grow up,

759
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:25.559
growing up and learning life. You
feel me. But and I also

760
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:30.320
need to become more vocal, like
I'm not I will tell you, like

761
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.920
I point you aside, like I'm
not gonna be loud over the whole team

762
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.719
and telling people what to do,
because at the end of the day,

763
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:40.400
people gonna listen to who they want
to listen to. And I feel like

764
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:45.079
I don't have that face here at
Michigan State. Yeah that's just me personally.

765
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.000
I don't have that. You do, Yeah, you do. You

766
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:54.199
do trust us, you do your
play talks, man, like you show

767
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:59.199
it. So I think it's an
opportunity for you to walk in that man,

768
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.480
because like you're sitting there, you're
playing on the field, you're producing,

769
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.719
and you have the cloud because you
you're showing the work, right,

770
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:09.559
So like, don't don't shy away
from that, man, because you got

771
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:13.639
to level up and we hold these
boys accountable man, this is your defense,

772
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:15.559
that is your Indeed, let me
tell you something, Chuck. Let

773
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.559
me tell you something, Chuck.
If I was in your position and I

774
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:30.760
got that pick against Christian, you
could not tell me nothing like off brother

775
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.360
for life. You don't have to
pay for another drink in east Land.

776
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:38.920
And again I ain't done yet,
got mesty. So they got exactly they

777
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:44.719
might have to get it for another
two years. Yeah, so Chuck,

778
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.360
you know, so game day?
What's in their headphones? Your music guy?

779
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.639
No music guy. I'm a music
guy. Like I put in my

780
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:57.960
music. I put on that young
boy, I just kill more when I

781
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.519
put it young I'm just drinking kill. I want. I want everybody.

782
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:12.239
So, young boy, what's your
game rituals? Like what's the superstition?

783
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.280
Like what are you trying to?
What do you gotta do every morning for

784
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.320
game day to prepare for? Like
she got your music, but what's your

785
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:24.159
what's your ritual? So I get
up on game days? I can't really

786
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:28.840
eat on game days, so missus
amber my nutrition and should give up?

787
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.039
Give me this? You can't.
It's like a gatorade and she put like

788
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:37.079
some calories in it, and I
drink that instead of eating actual food feel

789
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.400
me because on game days I had
that generally going. I be sweating all

790
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.880
day, like under my orange I
get to sweating, my fingers get sweaty,

791
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:46.079
like oh no, I just get
that feeling like I'm blow okay.

792
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:52.280
Then we get to we get near
the game, my stomach started bubbling.

793
01:03:52.360 --> 01:04:01.519
I just We're walking out the locker
room and were standing across from the other

794
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:06.840
team, and I'm always stand in
the front, so I look at the

795
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.280
players. I'll be like, I
look at my teammates. I was okay,

796
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:13.400
I got people behind me. I
look look in front of me.

797
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:17.679
Everybody's like they like probably three times
bigger than me. So I just be

798
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:21.119
looking like they look at they look
at I can see them looking at me.

799
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:28.360
They look at me like who is
this? Like you're gonna find out.

800
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:36.599
That's just always I've never been cocky, like I know people people think

801
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:40.800
I kaky. I promise you I'm
never cocky. I'm confident, Like my

802
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.840
confidence is through the through the roof, like when on the football field,

803
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:48.320
my confidence is crazy. Hm,
we see that. We definitely play that

804
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:56.480
way. Man. We heard it
too, crack Man that that game day

805
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:00.280
you said, what was that young
boy NB a young boy, Be a

806
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:06.480
young boy. Never broke again the
way you said that, you just looked

807
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:13.199
it up you no, no,
no, never broke, never broke again.

808
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.920
I had a register. Yeah,
yeah, I got that on my

809
01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:30.119
playlist. Yeah goodness. No little
baby, no, little baby, Chuck,

810
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.679
I don't listen little baby, little
baby tootle too. He a little

811
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:36.480
too soft in his song. You
gotta do that. It's kind of drill.

812
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:41.559
When the games, it's a drill. I like that, man,

813
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.320
Chuck, Hey man, congratulations again
on your new n I l deal in

814
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:50.320
your partnership with I Hot man like
congratulations and much success to you in the

815
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:53.920
future. Coming up here next season. We'd love to have you back on

816
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.119
uh after you know, give us
a report because you're not gonna be doing

817
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.639
the spring right, so you're gonna
have to kiss some insight. What's going

818
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:05.920
on? Give him? I get
on here. I actually don't do interviews,

819
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:13.800
but I actually like what you doing
here. You feel right there.

820
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.880
You got the iPhone right all right, So we got a mic that hooks

821
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.840
up in there. We can we
can do some stuff. Man, We'll

822
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:27.119
figure that out. Old Stee operations
on it. He's on it. Get

823
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.920
my playlist right to you know,
songs like I need to be hearing?

824
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:36.840
All right, bet was. I'm
gonna make a playlist on all the songs

825
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:40.760
I listened to on game days because
I got the specific songs that I listened

826
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:44.599
to it I put them on repeat
all day. Okay, okay, So

827
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:46.719
I'm gonna get Kew's playlist, We're
gonna get Chests playlist, and we're gonna

828
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:57.760
play over the Speakers play House,
family friendly. Yeah. On the social

829
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:03.480
media is at see Brandley twenty two
with her and instagrams at Charles Brandley five

830
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:09.199
number five. Y'all call me chuckle, but I really go about CB five

831
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:14.360
because that was my number five be
five. All right, all right,

832
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:17.679
brother man, thank you so much
for coming. Enjoy the time with you.

833
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.880
Uh, don't forget. Here's the
dates. There's gonna be some meet

834
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.199
and greets, little six day,
Little autograph three to five pm, folks,

835
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.880
three to five pm. I think
we missing three to five pm.

836
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:33.440
Three to five pm. YEP,
April first and Grand Rappids and then what

837
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.880
was the other one that was April
twenty second and Brighton se you addresses right

838
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:41.880
there for those listening on the podcast. At five o three nine twenty eighth

839
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.360
Street, Southeast Grand Rapids. That's
April first, April twenty second, eight

840
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:51.440
oh seventy five. Nimko waiting,
Brighton, Michigan. Man, love that

841
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:56.119
picture, Chuck. You guys,
I'm gonna need one of those with the

842
01:07:56.239 --> 01:08:00.719
with the pancakes holding up like that. Just put just put a guy from

843
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:04.000
behind you, from down the road
so that normally is a little bit smaller

844
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:06.920
and you're a little you up there, you said, get up here,

845
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:14.280
man, Yes, sir, you
deserve this. The arm that I messed

846
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.479
up, my shoulders missed up when
I caught that ball, my fingers like

847
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:27.359
got cut short. That made you
famous. Well, Chuck, you deserve

848
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:30.520
this, man. So keep appreciating, keep working out that that therapy getting

849
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:34.000
back, and we appreciate you man
from from the ogs to the young man.

850
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:43.960
We man, we got damn you
talk about that pregame ritual. What

851
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:48.199
was your pregame ritual? Who?
Man? Yeah, look this is where

852
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.600
this is where you know, we
about to outdate ourselves here, so we't

853
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:58.000
have all the Spotify and you know
we had to go and remember line wire,

854
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:02.800
we have to go download and legal
so put on that day. Yeah,

855
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:06.840
so people don't know this man.
So I'm very I mean, I'm

856
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:12.079
spiritual man. So like I'm listening
to my gospel playlist old school. Uh

857
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:15.279
but I always and I don't know
why, but like Michael Jackson, I

858
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.159
want to be starting. You want
to be starting something like just that was

859
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:24.079
my like for some reason, it
got me into like it was it's weird,

860
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:26.720
but it was like that got me
in the movie, like just straight

861
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:29.640
up like hey, you want to
be starting something, and like I was

862
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:31.880
just getting you'll get me more like
joyous and like giddy, like oh,

863
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:35.720
I'm dancing because you know we started. I took my baby to the doctor

864
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:48.560
like you hey, you know and
look you you know we in that old

865
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:53.600
locker room so you're just sitting there. You can't really get but you just

866
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:59.640
eat a little small one like and
we had and we had coaches that you

867
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.600
couldn't really express yourself, you couldn't
really be you, right, But I

868
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:08.359
always made sure right at that time, you know, when the band was

869
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.960
in the tunnel and they did that
yell roar before we went out, I

870
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.800
had to always make sure that things
was out before and hearing that because that

871
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:20.239
was like that warrior all like look
right now, you know it's go time.

872
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:25.159
What about you, stray man,
I'm before all of that, man,

873
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:29.119
we had like this, man were
so far back in the days.

874
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:39.319
Man. Yeah, it was a
steady diet of Look, you know,

875
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:45.920
outcast guys saying outcasts out loud.
You know, they got talking about the

876
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.960
players. But I'm like, man, all the players came and that albums

877
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:56.479
not players ball. Yeah. Yeah, and then you had that, you

878
01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:04.640
had that out cast, that Southern
playlist five music. Yes, that's why

879
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:13.279
a country like it's a country song. That's how it is. It's like

880
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:21.439
I didn't I didn't listen to music
before games. What was he doing?

881
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:25.920
Okay, so this is gonna get
a little funky, even weird. But

882
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.359
uh so I would go to this
to the state. When we get there,

883
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.880
I would take all my clothes off
and just be in compression shorts,

884
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:38.720
and I would lay on the ground, just lay on the ground and eat

885
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.720
a Snickers bar. And then after
that, I would put a shirt and

886
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:46.319
short and I'll go outside, That's
true, and he'd just be running,

887
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:50.880
like just be running, like for
no, just running, and I come

888
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:56.720
back. I just get sweaty and
then come back in change in Javan and

889
01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:00.119
I would go in the showers and
say a prayer and then come out for

890
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:03.880
that band coming through to rock the
walls. That was it. I never

891
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:10.920
listened to music at any stage.
Playing football, you did this. You

892
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:15.680
did this in every game, every
game? Yeah yeah, well really in

893
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:21.520
the YEP like. It took me, like hey straight. It took me

894
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:28.319
like maybe half the season my freshman
year to realize I was allowed to go

895
01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:33.000
out there. You know. I
was like, I was like, oh,

896
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:36.279
I could just go out there and
warm up and run before we go

897
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:45.000
out there. When I do when
I when I did remember prime time,

898
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.560
would go out there and run around
the entire stadium. You used to do

899
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:49.880
that, and I used to do
that because I did it in high school,

900
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:51.920
but I didn't know when I was
allowed to do it at college.

901
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:55.960
But I went out there and I
would run around the whole like track,

902
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:58.520
like basically made it like it was
a track, like getting me four laps

903
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:01.239
in, like I ran a mile
and then all she wrote, especially when

904
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:05.239
it's cold, put on that baseline
on and put a dry in on and

905
01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:10.079
sweat and then come up with those
Yes, I know, I know we're

906
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:13.079
running a long man. I know
we run along. But the spell offensive

907
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.800
lineman out there. If you hear
that, you know, if you if

908
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.439
you hear him say and I ran
four laps to get ready to play a

909
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:27.079
football game, and that was okay, You're probably not an offensive lineman because

910
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:32.600
there's no way any offensive lineman would
go run a mile and get warmed up

911
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:40.760
to playing football. That's definitely dB
talk right there. Defensive we put on

912
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:42.920
we can put it on the most
miles, you feel me. So we

913
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.199
gotta get ready? You ready?
You do? You do? Man?

914
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:53.199
So look man like, otis what
do we what's next on the agenda for

915
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:57.520
today? Yeah? So you know, as everyone's seen, you know,

916
01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:00.119
I know we were gonna run along
when we were in the production car the

917
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:02.199
day, we knew it was gonna
be a long, long, long day

918
01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:05.960
to day. But you know,
Spartan Nation, obviously, it's been the

919
01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:11.640
talk of the town. Uh.
You know, one of our great coaches

920
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.800
that was with us for a year
has departed. And it's not a departure

921
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:19.840
of he's you know, leaving us
to go somewhere else. Like in the

922
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:25.560
college ranks. You know, coach
coach bt Man is leveling up and going

923
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:30.119
to the NFL. Man, So
you know it hurts. This one really

924
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:32.920
hurts. And fellas like, let's
we talked about this, but let's let's

925
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:36.680
let's figure out, like let's have
this open talk and open dialogue about one

926
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:43.640
the decision to the whole that we
got to feel and three like the future

927
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:46.279
of you know, this is a
big recruiting loss. Like let's just call

928
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:51.439
it space spade here. But coach
BT has did more than what coaches have

929
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:56.079
done in a few years. And
he did it one year in an offseason,

930
01:14:56.159 --> 01:15:00.680
right, and so you know,
this is huge for us to lose

931
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:03.520
him, like we lost lost Couch
VI were also now losing you know,

932
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:09.119
BT. But let's let's have an
open dialogue about it. Man. How

933
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:11.399
do you feel about it? So? So for me, I mean,

934
01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:14.279
yeah, it's a it's a huge
loss. I'm so happy for BT for

935
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:17.720
being able to follow his dreams and
be able to realize his childhood dream of

936
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.159
being in the NFL now as a
coach, you know, which is a

937
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:27.439
huge thing. He gets to go
out with Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks,

938
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:30.439
which is a great organization. Uh, and he's gonna be empowered and

939
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:35.600
groomed to be a defensive coordinator,
which is what he really ultimately wanted to

940
01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:40.479
do. Losing him as a recruiter
is a huge loss. It is you

941
01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:42.880
know, it's gonna be a lot
of ground for Michigan State to make up.

942
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.760
But you know, the leader in
charge, mel Tucker, there's a

943
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:50.520
reason that he was extended the way
he was from a from a contract cent

944
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:54.439
was because he's the kind of guy
that his battle test and he understands how

945
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:58.199
to navigate through these tough waters.
They are tough waters, there's no doubt

946
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:00.359
about it. You know, you
can see mel Tucker. They try to

947
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:01.720
counter and try to keep him,
but it was just, you know,

948
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:05.319
too little, too late for him. And it wasn't about the money.

949
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:11.479
Mel Tucker does have enough of that, you know from the coaching pool and

950
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.760
all that that he has, so
that was the issue. But I think

951
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:19.039
that him going to the next level
does speak volume for the coaching staff at

952
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:25.359
large that they do have talent on
the coaching staff like mel Tucker can groom

953
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:30.479
someone to go to the NFL.
You see Fiegler who left a year ago

954
01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:34.039
to go to Florida as the running
backs coaches now in the NFL, there's

955
01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:40.279
several coaches. It was underneath Mel
Tucker's purview that now have made that jump,

956
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:45.520
which should attract more talented coaches because
we're gonna need it, guys.

957
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:47.199
I mean, we're talking about being
able to connect with some of the youth

958
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:54.880
and what they are asking of coaches
today college coaches today is un in my

959
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.039
opinion's a bit unreasonable, to be
honest with you, like, you know,

960
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.319
it's twenty four to seven recruiting world
that they have to live in.

961
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:05.000
Their their their family lives have to
suffer because they have they can't turn that

962
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:09.840
phone off. B t don't.
I never heard anything from him that he

963
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:13.920
was he couldn't stand that, but
you know, you do. I talked

964
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:19.640
to NFL coaches in college coaches,
and the clear is a clear delineation between

965
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:25.680
that with it's more family friendly.
You can be more of a well rounded

966
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:30.000
person in the NFL versus college.
The way the rules are now, this

967
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:35.560
is this recruiting cycle guy. So
to find someone that's ass talented, it's

968
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:39.199
gonna be tough, but that Mel
Tucker is a guy. If anybody could

969
01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:44.079
do it, mel Tucker can do
it. I was very well said.

970
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.159
I was like, oh lord,
shout you what you what you got out

971
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:48.319
of that? All I got to
say is this. You know, in

972
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.039
every level that you play, when
you're in high school football, the next

973
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:54.720
step is to play in college.
When you're in college, your next step

974
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:57.560
is to play in the NFL.
Just like the same thing in life.

975
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.039
You know, you're in a you
come out to the In work, you're

976
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.119
in the entry level position. You
want to get to a managerial rule,

977
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:09.840
and then you want to get to
a director, a CEO and everything like

978
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:13.399
that. So, you know,
congratulations to VT for this opportunity. Is

979
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:15.840
something that he worked for, you
know, a hard worker and everything like

980
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:17.720
that. I saw a tweet about
him. You know, man, this

981
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.039
is crazy. You know, God's
good. You know three years ago he

982
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:24.840
was picking up trash to earn money. Now he's coaching in an NFL.

983
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:27.560
That's great. You know, that's
going to be something that's going to attract

984
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.880
people to Michigan State is that you
can have this opportunity. You have a

985
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.119
platform to better yourself. You're not
going to be held back. There is

986
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:38.199
no glass ceiling. Really, my
only concern to this is the fact that,

987
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.079
you know, are we going to
lose recruits? You know, through

988
01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:45.279
the fact that he's leaving and some
of and you know, the thing is,

989
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:47.760
and I'm going to say it,
we don't know, you know,

990
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.720
anything new about this new d line
coach. You know, we had coach

991
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:54.800
Vickerson that was there who had a
great relationship with the kids. I don't

992
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:58.199
know if he's if he's still a
part of the team or not. And

993
01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:00.880
then we're losing BT as well,
so we don't know, Like you know,

994
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.640
David Stone, you know, a
highly tired guy. Is he gonna

995
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:08.279
come? You know? You know, now other people are using this as

996
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:11.920
fuel, like you know, hey, there's it's a no brainer now to

997
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.119
go to OU. You know,
people are tweeting at them, but we

998
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:18.000
don't know what repercussions and you know
how the dominoes are gonna fall, you

999
01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:20.439
know, at the end of the
at the end of the day, losing

1000
01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:26.920
a coach this point in time in
the season, especially with the way that

1001
01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:30.720
a player can just pick up and
transfer any time, and the way that

1002
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:32.800
in the trajectory and the way that
we want to go as a program,

1003
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:36.319
and we know our defensive line is
going to be integral to getting to those

1004
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:41.199
steps and reaching those goals that we
have set. It's gonna be it's gonna

1005
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.800
be something, you know, attracting
these guys, these these these young recruits

1006
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:47.880
here. You know, BT held
combines and camps here at in East Lanton.

1007
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.920
The NFL guys came. And if
I'm a player and I'm walking in

1008
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:55.960
the in the weave and I see
NFL guys in their training cam Heyward,

1009
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:58.680
you know, Von Miller, all
those guys, I'm like, shit,

1010
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:00.279
yeah, I want to come to
Michigan State to do this. So that's

1011
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:04.560
a big loss on the recruiting side
for Michigan State, losing BT. But

1012
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:10.119
hopefully, you know, our play, our defense, and our health come

1013
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:14.279
together and we we can get back
on that platform again that we were a

1014
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:17.319
couple of years ago. Defensively,
We'll say, We'll see. Man.

1015
01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:21.159
You know, you know what we
didn't really touch on because I mean it

1016
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:27.079
was you know, doctor Rema made
a comment and you asked a question like

1017
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what does it take for that overall
experience for us to be better? You

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01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:33.800
know, and and and she brought
up a couple of things. She said,

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01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:36.560
winning is one of the things we
said. But you know, obviously

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01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:43.079
the alcohol that you wanted to talk
about otis but to me when she she

1021
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.760
she brought up she brought up the
nil like how it is in the South.

1022
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:53.079
I think that if you have that
support from your your fan base like

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01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:57.720
they do in the in the sec
you know you're seeing I'm seeing it clearly

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01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.840
right now in the recruiting process is
one on and other parents and I talked

1025
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:05.319
to other players. It's it's night
and day. And she she strived our

1026
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:11.479
facilities now as being high school like
compared to those and we don't know that.

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01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:14.399
When you're here, you don't.
You don't know. But you just

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01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:17.560
heard that. And I didn't talk
to her about any of this stuff,

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01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:20.800
okay, to be you know,
full disclosure. Did not talk to her

1030
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:25.600
about that, and that's it's the
truth. She said that, you know,

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01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:29.880
if if the people around the university
support like like a mad istue,

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01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.520
you may not have mad issue of
money, but it every little bit counts

1033
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:35.439
and everybody can can do something.
I mean, like you have a guy

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01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:39.760
like cal who's doing God's work in
my opinion, to help them. This

1035
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:44.199
is what program. This isn't necessarily
a big business move for him. It's

1036
01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:46.279
not a big business move for this
is a hey, this is a spartan

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01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:51.880
that chose to use whatever platform he
has to help the team. That's what

1038
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:55.760
it is, that's what it takes. And that's what you see down south

1039
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.399
from the masses. And I know
a Spartans have that will, they have

1040
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:02.039
a heart, they have a passion. Spartans want to win. But it's

1041
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:05.920
that I don't know, like you
know, let's see, I don't know

1042
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:10.239
is it really legal like that stuff
you said? There are all the apologetic

1043
01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:14.720
down south. They don't ask the
permission or beg for forgiveness. So why

1044
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:16.199
are we I don't know if it's
I don't, I don't know, I'm

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01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:21.239
gonna what and and we're going,
okay, then don't be upset, guys

1046
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:27.359
when we don't, we're teetering on
boel eligibility or not boe eligibility year after

1047
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.399
year after year. Because of that. That's really the reason. And now

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01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:35.039
those that support brings the coaches too. That brings the coaches. All that

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01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:42.000
stuff brings what the talent. The
talent brings, what the wins. You

1050
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:45.800
can't have it the other way.
We don't. We don't wait to win,

1051
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:48.520
and then we'll go out and get
the guys that doesn't that doesn't work.

1052
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:53.880
So until we get in that mindset
as a culture, as a Spartan

1053
01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:59.479
nation, then then that's the bigger
issue in my opinion than BT. BT

1054
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.760
is a hell beloss. But what's
worse we can make up for BP is

1055
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:08.479
the uniting of all Spartans to go
in the same direction and understand what it

1056
01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.600
takes to compete at that level.
We have it, guys. You know,

1057
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:14.479
I feel like I'm on the soap
box right that I think that we

1058
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.119
have the ability, we do we
have the pastor we have the ability.

1059
01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:21.199
Just gotta gotta put it in line. Call Otis He'll help, He'll tell

1060
01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:32.279
you how. Yes. In other
news, Well, let's talk about how

1061
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:35.880
we we got to figure out how
we have to manage that thus right like

1062
01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:41.199
we have to when it does come
in, how are we managing that?

1063
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:45.520
And how is that getting to everyone
who is currently a student athlete on campus?

1064
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.359
But when they get here, they're
taken care of. You know,

1065
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:51.680
what we're finding is little our current
student athletes, Like you heard Chuck.

1066
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:56.039
It's like, man, I've been
having these kind of nickeling dimes here and

1067
01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:59.359
there, and this is my biggest
nil deal with Kyle and I hop and

1068
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.359
know that that that kind of gives
me inclination of like, man, like,

1069
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:06.800
there's guys out here that's putting their
hearts and souls out there right now

1070
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:11.600
currently that we got to get in
front of. We got to get them

1071
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.039
the deal. So, uh well, you know next, you know,

1072
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:19.520
obviously, you know, transition into
men's basketball. You know, we saw

1073
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:26.159
some some season accolades happen with our
two guards and then Joey Hawser. But

1074
01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:31.439
we talked about this last week that
our front court, when they are locked

1075
01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:35.680
and loaded, like Ty Walker and
AJ Hagger, is unstoppable. When they

1076
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:42.079
are both licking. AJ's not turning
the ball over, Ty is hitting those

1077
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.520
jumpers at always, always the buzzer
beat on the shod clock. Joey's hitting

1078
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.800
the three maliite calls ball, and
like we could go along and far in

1079
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:56.640
this tournament in March Madness, but
you know, we look at jay Nakins

1080
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.039
if he didn't get hurt, thinking
about Jayden would probably be team because he's

1081
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.319
hitting right now too. So you
know, we want to celebrate those guys

1082
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:08.720
in our seniors. You know,
we talked about the production got cut off

1083
01:25:09.800 --> 01:25:13.439
at the end of six senior celebration. So that's another news that we got

1084
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:18.199
to hit. But the senior celebration
started by our own, very own South

1085
01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:24.359
Resport, is one of the most
elite traditions I've seen an experience, and

1086
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:28.359
that's me being biased probably, but
you don't see that elsewhere. You know,

1087
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.800
you see the traditional walkout with your
parents, get the flowers, get

1088
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:34.079
your jersey. But we're able to
call that time out and kiss that logo.

1089
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:39.520
It's truly something that's very you look
forward to. You know, I

1090
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.239
wish we would have that in football. But to your point, we talked

1091
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:46.199
about the senior traditions in football,
it wasn't as glorious and glamorous like like

1092
01:25:46.319 --> 01:26:10.680
it is for basketball. But you're
playing number ten, Jerry, you replain

1093
01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:30.159
number two. He replain number That
guy had a day though too, that

1094
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:32.640
guy had a day. You know, you think about it. You look

1095
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:39.359
at Melik call Ty Walker. Uh. They still have the option to come

1096
01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:43.840
back. They still got the COVID
year. So the only one that doesn't

1097
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:47.119
is Joey because he exhausted that.
But those two they come back with the

1098
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:50.600
recruiting class. I said it before. You know, it's very promising.

1099
01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:54.880
Uh, and it's always says this
with all his classes. But if he

1100
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:58.239
doesn't win one with this class coming
in and if they come back, he

1101
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.680
basically always says, I'm not a
great coach. He always says that.

1102
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.560
But we know it's a Hall of
fame coach. But to talk about Big

1103
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:06.560
Ten Conference play, you know,
we get the pleasure of going down there

1104
01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:11.079
to Chicago, the Shataw, Windy
City. You know, take us through,

1105
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:13.920
take us through. Like, man, we got double bye. Man,

1106
01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:18.079
it feels good, feels good.
Double bye is good. You know,

1107
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.920
you get to rest up a little
bit, you have, you know,

1108
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:26.039
some tune up games before you you
know, you hit the big turn.

1109
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:28.359
For me, I'm not big.
I'm not big into the Big ten

1110
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:30.760
you know tournament. You know,
I'm not big into it. You know

1111
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:35.319
it's I want our guys to rest
up and get down. And what really

1112
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:43.720
matters, So you so you're saying
so, you're saying so, you're saying,

1113
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:45.640
like this is the opportunity to get
if we win it all you get

1114
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:49.399
a better seed. Or you saying
regardless if we win or lose, we're

1115
01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:54.600
still gonna have that same seed in
selection Sunday. That's when it matters,

1116
01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:59.680
Like if we're if if you do, it doesn't matter clearly. Number one

1117
01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:01.640
seed. God, yeah, I'm
just not a big fan of the big

1118
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:05.119
ten time. I'm not sold on
a big turn. I'd rather rest guys

1119
01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:10.640
and get them ready for the turn, the the real tournament, the NCAA

1120
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.000
tournament. There. Our seed is
not going to change either way, you

1121
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:16.760
know, Like we're not going to
get higher than a five seed no matter

1122
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:21.640
what we do in the tournament.
So let's they went less than a eight

1123
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:34.199
seed either, y'all of course,
TV Yeah we no more beer sales more

1124
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:43.600
for man. Yeah, so,
but you can't you can't go deep in

1125
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:48.640
the tournament without solid, mature,
experienced guard play. And that's what Michigan

1126
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:53.159
State has. You know, I
know that, you know, we may

1127
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:58.600
lack a little bit in the post, but you know, I think so

1128
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:03.640
Soco and and what's my man's Cohler
cooler, Yeah, maybe maybe James Cocher

1129
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.319
Mabea, Yeah, man, So
you know, I think they can do

1130
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:10.119
their thing. And you got that
solid guard player. There's gonna be a

1131
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:13.119
lot of younger guards out there,
for dudes, got younger guards. I

1132
01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:16.439
mean, they may feel that pressure, you know, in the tournament scenarios

1133
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:20.640
when it survived in advance or win
or go home. So we'll see how

1134
01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:24.399
it all plays out. Guys,
I mean, great show. I think

1135
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:28.960
that we've thoroughly discussed a lot of
things a lot of people on this show.

1136
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:35.279
Final thoughts, ju Hey, Go
Green. Otis shout out to all

1137
01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:40.640
of our followers. We consistently had
you know, thirty plus tonight. I

1138
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:44.560
know we went long, but we
appreciate y'all staying with us and obviously supporting

1139
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:47.479
us, liking us, and following
us. So great show tonight, looking

1140
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:55.319
forward to for Thursday and no,
go Green, Hey, And that's nothing

1141
01:29:55.359 --> 01:29:59.760
more needs to say for those fellows. Otis Wiley J Kocher, I'm Jason

1142
01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:02.199
stra This is Sparta half a good
night, God bless you go Green.

1143
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:16.960
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1144
01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:21.800
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1145
01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:28.640
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1146
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1147
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