1 00:00:18,039 --> 00:00:23,079 Hello, and welcome back to Sidequest. This is our video game show here 2 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:27,559 at EBERS. It's me Dylan here today for another solo episode where I'm going 3 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:33,359 to be talking about the Super Smash Brothers single player modes from over the years. 4 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,520 I might be asking yourself, why are you doing this? Why are 5 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,200 you doing it right now? It's very not irrelevant to any Smash news, 6 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,000 but I just felt like talking about this. I was thinking about the single 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,119 player aspect of these games the other day and thought it'd be fun to kind 8 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:49,119 of really go through the history of them, break it down, and then 9 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 of course close it off with the ranking as I love to do, and 10 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,520 just see kind of how the single player aspect of these games that is primarily 11 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,880 seen as a multiplayer game, how that's evolved and chained and added and received 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,599 editions and gotten rid of other modes over the years. So we're gonna do 13 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,319 that. I think this is going to be a fun time. Yeah, 14 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:14,000 because Super Smash was, you know, one of my favorite probably my favorite 15 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,359 series at this point, I think all the Elder scrolls would be like the 16 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:19,719 number two or the competitor to it. But really just at the end of 17 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,799 the day, I love this series so much, such a nerd about it 18 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:26,680 in terms of like the roster editions and all the changes and updates it's received 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,840 through all its iterations, and it's always been a series that as a kid 20 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,000 too and I didn't have a friend over to play, I would go to 21 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,719 these single player modes and play them endlessly and try and get high scores or 22 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:44,319 just complete them, or maybe it's just doing them to get the unlocks and 23 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,959 whatever it is, but just playing for hours and hours, and even still 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,879 today I'll jump in Ultimate and play through some of these single player modes. 25 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,359 It's still something I'm interested in. So yeah, I think it's an underrated 26 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,000 aspect of these games, or an under talked about part about these games perhaps. 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,200 So I think the way we gonna do this is they're gonna go game 28 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,879 by game, talk about the different modes that existed in them, kind of 29 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:07,760 explain them, because for some people, maybe it's been a long time since 30 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,159 you've played Melee or Brawl or Smash sixty four, you kind of forget what 31 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:14,000 some of the modes were in those games. So we'll talk about them, 32 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,439 make some comparisons, and then we'll do the ranking part at the end. 33 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,719 If you're watching this on YouTube, I'm just gonna play some random gauntlet footage 34 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:23,800 that we have of Smash Pro stuff. So this is not relevant to the 35 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,479 single player part of it, but it just gives you a little something to 36 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,159 watch watch along with. And apologies for these stretched or compressed images here. 37 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,319 This is what we got, so I'm just gonna play it so I don't 38 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,240 get copyright striked on anyone else's content. Okay, so let's start with, 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,560 of course, Smash sixty four or I guess just called Super Smash Bros. 40 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:47,919 Kind of now known as sixty four. This is the first game in the 41 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:54,159 series, of course, and it started out with you know what is now 42 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:58,280 called Classic Mode, but it was really just called one player mode one player 43 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,120 game back in the day. And this is the most essential of the single 44 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:07,439 player modes, and it is essentially just like you know between I think it's 45 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:09,680 like eight to ten different battles that you're doing. You'll start out, you 46 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:14,080 pick a character, and then you go and you fight Luigi and then you 47 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:16,360 may get like a team battle later on a TWOV two or maybe you have 48 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,800 to do a three v one, or maybe able to fight Metal Mario, 49 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:23,759 other little things will pop up little mini modes in between there, but for 50 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,759 the most part, you just play through these series of battles, a couple 51 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,639 exhilar exhibition matches, I guess you could say, and then close it off 52 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:38,680 with the boss fight against Master Hand or Crazy Hand or both. Along with 53 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,719 that and sespacially for you also have a training mode. This might seem like 54 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:45,240 a weird one to throw in here, but this is definitely a single player 55 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:49,080 mode that people would use just to test things out or practice. It's often 56 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:51,879 used for competitive players, and it's a weird one because, like you know, 57 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:54,159 a lot of people who play these games casually will probably never use the 58 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:59,520 training mode. Even someone like me who does play these games competitively very rarely 59 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,039 do I actually to use the train When an Ultimate first came out, I 60 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,039 used it for practicing certain things or may they all do it a little bit, 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,520 but it's really not something that I use very often, and probably a 62 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,199 lot of people don't. But it's it's interesting because it's been in every game 63 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,319 and it's useful for some people, and it is a mode nonetheless. And 64 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,839 then I think the two kind of main side ones here in Smash sixty four 65 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,639 is of course you have Break the Targets and Board the Platforms, which some 66 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,279 people might forget about. Break the Targets is iconic for the series, and 67 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:32,439 this is you know, each character has their own special course, and in 68 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,240 this course there's ten to fifteen targets. You have to go around smash them 69 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,920 as quick as possible, and it's kind of a high score thing of trying 70 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,920 to beat your best times. Some of them might even just be puzzles in 71 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:44,879 terms of like, oh, how do I hit this certain target. It's 72 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:46,439 in a really weird spot, so maybe if you use a specific move from 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,120 a character or get into a certain location, and there's all sorts of different 74 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:56,319 shortcuts and things like that. So yeah, and Smash sixty four there's twelve 75 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:59,199 different courses and one for each character. And that was the same for Board 76 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:02,079 the Platforms, which is a mode that has never returned and has not even 77 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,000 really ever seen an iteration on. It's kind of just lost to time back 78 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,120 in the N sixty four era. And in Board the Platforms pretty simple. 79 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,439 You would just have to land on I think yeah once again between ten and 80 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:19,720 fifteen different platforms, so you'd have to just essentially do this platform and challenge 81 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,680 to get around, and once again, this is very much about the speed 82 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,439 of it, trying to do it quickly. But for some of them, 83 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:30,199 I remember like Samus for example, has one that's way out in the far 84 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:33,560 right, and just with regular jump double jump up b you might not get 85 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,079 there, so you'll have to use some down be bomb shenanigans or other you 86 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,319 know you do, like a reverse charge shot to boost yourself over there. 87 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,160 So you have to kind of know these different things in order to board all 88 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,639 these platforms. Is interesting mode and one I'm going to talk about a bit 89 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:55,160 later in terms of interesting that it has never really appeared again, so that's 90 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,279 kind of it for Smash sixty four, you know, a pretty simple game, 91 00:05:57,319 --> 00:05:59,759 the first game in the series, and I think even in the one 92 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:01,240 play your game, I think the break, the targets, and the board 93 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,639 board the platforms occur within that mode, so it's kind of all integrated together. 94 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,519 I want to actually take a quick little side tenngin here to talk about, 95 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,639 like you know, especially with Smash these four and then going into the 96 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,879 other games, like what is really the purpose or why are these modes here? 97 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Why are they keep adding and changing and making updates to them? And 98 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:26,920 obviously it's just like something fun to do, but there's kind of more to 99 00:06:26,959 --> 00:06:29,600 it in these games. So there's always the aspect of you're doing these single 100 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,680 player modes often to unlock characters and stages to use in the versus mode and 101 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,199 just regular Smash. Maybe it's completing challenges like Ultimate has this big challenge board 102 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,240 of all these different things we're all had, like this museum type thing where 103 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,399 you can smash these different tiles accomplish these different challenges. Other unlocks like trophies, 104 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,600 stickers, spirits, music, costumes for me, fighters, these those 105 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:57,040 appear in different games. We you had the unlocking of special moves, right, 106 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,399 you could you could change out special moves. There's different versions of that 107 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:01,759 was a big part of it. And then like the high score chasing that 108 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,319 I mentioned with Smash sixty four there. So I think it's you know, 109 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:09,639 it's good to remember those things that outside of just something fun to do, 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,000 like, there is purpose for doing these things. And often even if you 111 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 are a multiplayer only kind of player, you will have to engage with this 112 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,360 single player to some extent to get these characters and stages on locks that you 113 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:21,879 have more to play with when you get into those other modes. Okay, 114 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:28,360 moving along Melee. Melee had quite a few additions, and I'll do a 115 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:31,639 recap after of what modes were kind of dropped in between and which ones received 116 00:07:31,639 --> 00:07:35,439 iterations. But yeah, and Melee, the I'd say the biggest addition was 117 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:41,600 kind of two Adventure Mode and Event Mode. Adventure Mode is kind of an 118 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:46,160 evolution of Classic Mode in that you're playing through these variety of battles that leads 119 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:47,879 into a boss fight at the end, but this one kind of added more 120 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,800 platforming sequences. You have that first level we're going through Mushroom Kingdom. There's 121 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:57,240 the iconic one of the underground maze for the Zelda one where you have to 122 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,279 go and try and find the Try Force. There's the kind of a scape 123 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:03,279 sequence from metroy that you get to do. So you have these other elements 124 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,680 from taken from these different games and what they would be like in a Smash 125 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,800 version. So it's similar to Classic Mode, or you still have those battles, 126 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:13,720 but then it's maybe a bit more of a story, a bit more 127 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,600 of a progression, and a bit more consistent in between characters, and it's 128 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:22,839 kind of about beating them at higher difficulties or just unlocking them all because you 129 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:26,800 have to beat adventure mode I think with every character to get game and watch 130 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:30,959 unlocked for example, so you'll need to play through it a lot. And 131 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,519 then along with that there is the event mode as I mentioned, so this 132 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,559 is kind of a series. I think there was like maybe forty to sixty 133 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,720 events in Melee and different tiers and all that. And an event would either 134 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:45,919 be pick your character or it's a select character you're using Mario for this one, 135 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,720 and give you a very specific challenge kind of like maybe a boss fight, 136 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,399 or it might just be you're really weak and small, and then maybe 137 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,879 there's like a big enemy that you're fighting against. Things like that. And 138 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,240 yeah, there was all sorts of them in there, and unlock them. 139 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,799 They'd give you different unlocks as well. This is where the addition of home 140 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:09,360 Run Contest is, which is of course an iconic Smash Bros. Single player 141 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:13,320 mode, which is, yeah, there's just a dummy, a punching bag. 142 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,320 You have to beat it up a little bit and smash it with the 143 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,639 home Run bat and see how far you can get in very much a high 144 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,159 score chasing sort of game mode there. And then there's the addition of All 145 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:24,639 Star, which once you unlock all the characters, you get All Star Mode, 146 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:28,320 and this is just a essentially an Iron Man where you have to pick 147 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,120 one character and you have to fight every single member of the cast. That 148 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,519 starts with one on one battles and then eventually have one on twos. I 149 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,159 think one on three is probably at some point too, so it gets pretty 150 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,639 hard near the end, and then you have to fight like a hundred game 151 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,080 and watches or something when you get to the last level. So that's fun. 152 00:09:45,159 --> 00:09:48,480 That's just playing one character destroy the whole cast. A very fun addition 153 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:54,480 to the series. I think that's kind of it for Melee. You know, 154 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,840 definitely a good few additions there. Retains the classic mode of Corps training 155 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:01,919 mode, and break the to Targets is the exact same as it was in 156 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:05,000 Smash sixty four. Each character has their own map. Moving on to Super 157 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,519 Smash Brothers Brawl quite a few additions here as well. So Brawl made a 158 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,000 change to Break the Targets and this is where I'm actually going to kind of 159 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,919 consider it a different mode. I'll just call it the five level Break the 160 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,080 Target. So obviously in Smash sixty four and Melee. As I mentioned, 161 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,480 break the targets, each character had their own map that they would do and 162 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:28,519 it was designed around their movement capabilities, their projectiles, and it was even 163 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,399 kind of themed after them. Smash sixty four is pretty basic, but in 164 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,039 Melee they went more with like visual themes that kind of match the characters. 165 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,679 Not all of them have that, but some of them do. And then 166 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,840 in Brawl the change was there's five levels of difficulty, but it was the 167 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:46,919 same five maps for each character. So if you pick Sonic, there's an 168 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:50,279 easy map, there's a very hard map, and then there's every level in 169 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,039 between. But every character, you know, Martha Mara, all of them 170 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:56,759 are going to have the exact same target maps. So because of that, 171 00:10:56,799 --> 00:11:01,320 you're getting less. I guess you need setups in terms of like, oh, 172 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,279 maybe this target is just impossible to hit for someone like Roy, but 173 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,639 someone like Jigglypuff can reach out there and hit it. But you're not going 174 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,039 to really see that with this Brawl one because it kind of has to be 175 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,240 homogenized that every character can do it. There's also items added to it, 176 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:18,519 which I think helped for specific situations where maybe certain characters couldn't reach a certain 177 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:22,320 spot. So it still exists, and there's still a lot to it. 178 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,240 If you want to like do it with every character on all difficulties, that 179 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:28,159 would be a lot, but it's definitely less unique than the previous games. 180 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,399 The biggest addition of Brawl is of course, the Subspace Emissary, which is 181 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,960 taking that melee adventure mode, taking the Smash sixty four classic mode, you 182 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,639 could say, and really just blowing it up into a huge story. And 183 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,960 this is you know, this is one of the most iconic modes in all 184 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,320 of Smash. And yeah, it's just a longer single player story, huge 185 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,440 like CGI cut scenes that were really really beautiful, tons of platforming sequences, 186 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,360 unique battles, boss battles. This is the main way to unlock a lot 187 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,799 of the characters through the games. Would be the kind of the primary way 188 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:03,080 you probably do that. And yeah, it was kind of included all the 189 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:07,200 characters at different points in the story, and then you build up this roster 190 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,600 and then you could pick in certain sequences who you wanted to play as. 191 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,360 Other sequences you'd be forced to play as a certain character. Just an amazing 192 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:18,240 mode. The Subspace Emissary introduced so many unique character designs. There was a 193 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:24,000 lot of original designs in terms of the enemies that you're fighting. There led 194 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:26,919 into a final battle against Taboo, who is an interesting boss fight who was 195 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,039 I don't think ever appeared again in a Smash game. He was kind of 196 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,480 only there in Bral. I think once you unlocked everything in Brawl, you 197 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,600 would get the boss Battles mode as an unlocked This is kind of similar to 198 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,879 I guess you would say, like All Star, I forget how you unlocked 199 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:43,480 it, but this is essentially just a boss rush. You could just play 200 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,559 pick a character and play through all the boss fights that were in Subspace, 201 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:52,200 back to back to back, and it had different difficulties as well. Interesting 202 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:54,799 to note that the boss Battles mode has never been used in another game. 203 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,679 Ultimately, you would think should have that kind of thing, but it never 204 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:03,200 did for some reason. And I don't think Smash four really had new or 205 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,320 any boss battles at all, so it wouldn't make sense for that game to 206 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720 have it. But ultimately really weird that that was never added to it, 207 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,759 even through like a DLC update or something, right, and then a huge 208 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:18,360 update in Brawl as well or addition rather is the stage builder, which you 209 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,000 know, you might not think about as a single player mode because you're maybe 210 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:26,519 building stages that you'd play with your friends on, but the actual builder part 211 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,519 of it is definitely a single player thing, you know. Growing up, 212 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:35,279 I always loved stage builders in games map editors I think of like Tony Hawk's 213 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:41,159 Underground and how I'd make maps in there Forever, something like Scribble nots. 214 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:46,120 I was like checking out the stage builder. There always something that I was 215 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,200 interested in and I like to do, which Halo as well the Forge mode 216 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,240 there, which makes sense now that I'm kind of making games of my own 217 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,480 cheap plug go check out my game Potion Problem on Steams coming out soon. 218 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,840 But I always found that the Smash, one of those my Pirit series was 219 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,840 very lacking, I think for a few reasons. Like one, visually, 220 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,000 I don't know, you can never really make like a good looking map, 221 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:13,480 which is too bad. There was very few like additions to it. Like 222 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:15,960 you it'd be cool if youd take like, I don't know, the windmill 223 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,360 from Pokemon Stadium and make that on your map, or take these just iconic 224 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,559 elements like maybe even like the metroid, how the lava rises up it'd be 225 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:26,840 cool if you could add a feature like that to these maps, but it 226 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:30,159 was very bare bones, very basic, and even though this was a feature 227 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,279 in Smash for REU and Smash for Ultimate as well, they didn't really add 228 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,360 a ton and they've never made it very easy to find and download maps, 229 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,799 like you would have to get a code, so you have to like go 230 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:45,320 on Reddit, find a map, check the code, download it through your 231 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,320 game. Like it's never just like there was never a search feature within the 232 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,200 actual game itself, even though all the way back and Roll it did have 233 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,559 online play, so there was that online functionality, but they didn't think to 234 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:56,799 have something like that. So I don't know, I feel like there's a 235 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,000 lot of potential there in terms of could have been maybe like those additional feature 236 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,720 as I'm talking about the things you were unlocking and through other modes, so 237 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:05,679 it could have helped connect all these features together. But yeah, it's always 238 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,480 felt like never really reaching its full potential there. And I'll talk about that 239 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:15,320 a bit later on with something else as well. So those that was it 240 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:16,879 for Brawl, you had break the targets, the five levels, subspace, 241 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:22,080 emissary boss battles in the Stage Builder, of course there's previous modes from the 242 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,240 previous games all were keep recapped that all at the end going into Smash four, 243 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,919 So Smash four we use Smash four three DS. Always loved that pun 244 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:35,799 had different modes that were in each version, and so the three DS version 245 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:37,120 was a bit more simplified. There was less in it, and you know, 246 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:43,320 it didn't even have the eight player Smash. It didn't have I don't 247 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,840 know, like these certain modes in particular. For the most part, I 248 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,759 think they kind of tried to make these games as similar as possible, but 249 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,080 they are ultimately different. So the three DS doesn't have a whole lot of 250 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,759 unique modes added to it. It had Street Smash, which is essentially the 251 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,759 you know, like a little pun on street street pass there where with you 252 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 if you had your three DS, you're traveling around and you, I don't 253 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,440 know, turn on the street pass setting. If you pass someone in the 254 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:15,080 world who has that also turned on, you'd get like a them as an 255 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,360 opponent. But it's like they weren't really battles. Like I think this would 256 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,360 have made sense for like the me or the Ambo functionality, but I think 257 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,039 it was more just like you have like a peg on this little map, 258 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,600 and it was almost like shuffle board or curling. You're like trying to smash 259 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,799 these other things off. So a very weird little addition, you know, 260 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:33,039 is fun enough, and I think you'd get some unlocks from it, but 261 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,360 mostly I would interact with this mode when I'd go to tournaments back in the 262 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,879 day when Smash four was the biggest, the big deal, the newest Smash 263 00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:42,159 game, and so I'd get a lot of street passes from people at those 264 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:45,919 tournaments, a lot of other people bringing that, and then you'd also had 265 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Smash Run, which is a really underrated mode. I love Smash Run and 266 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,080 I wish it kind of got another chance with Ultimate. But ultimately this is 267 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:02,759 a multiplayer mode where it's multiplayer single player, but you pick a character and 268 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:08,599 oh, just loading up my next YouTube video here, just have so you 269 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,440 guys have something to watch here as I'm going through this all, let's go 270 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,319 with this next one here. But yeah, you would pick a character, 271 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,119 you'd go through this giant map. It was very similar to what you would 272 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:25,559 encounter in Subspace Emissary in terms of platform and sequences, different kind of locations 273 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:29,920 and underground up in the sky, area and you're going around collecting upgrades to 274 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,960 your character, maybe that stats or like certain item type things, and then 275 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,480 at the end of the timer, it'd be like five minutes of that, 276 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,960 you'd run around and get a bunch of stuff at the end of the time, 277 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:41,799 or you'd be given a random battle. I think this is maybe one 278 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:45,079 of the weaker parts about it is there wasn't really any customization. You couldn't 279 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:48,880 pick what that final battle was like. You couldn't change how long you could 280 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,119 do the smash around, you couldn't change how many battles there were after it. 281 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:53,680 So sometimes you'd like go around, maybe you'd get really powerful, you 282 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,799 got a bunch of power upgrades for your character, but then like the final 283 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:00,640 battle is like a race to the finish, and it's like, okay, 284 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,119 well, now all these upgrades I got aren't really useful anymore. Or it 285 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,240 could be the opposite, where maybe you got a bunch of speed updates, 286 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,599 but then it's just like a purely like a metal all metal battle or something, 287 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,480 so you need a bunch of strength and you just don't have that. 288 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,240 So it was still a really fun mode mostly for that first like five minutes 289 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,839 of running around collecting stuff and fighting random enemies. I don't think you can 290 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,680 actually bump into other players in that you were kind of own. If you 291 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:25,960 did it multiplayer, you were all in your own world, which is why 292 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,000 it once again feels like more of a single player thing. But I really 293 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,519 loved the smart I think I had a lot of potential. I think I 294 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:33,440 think it would have been cool if it got updates, and I think it 295 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,599 would have been hard. I guess you could have done a split screen and 296 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:37,640 ultimate, but like really it was one of those things that worked well as 297 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,559 everyone having their own three ds. But even in single player, I still 298 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:44,960 played a ton of this mode. Going over to the WEU side of things, 299 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,079 the kind of equivalent there was Smash Tour. Smash Tour was I call 300 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,519 it like kind of like a Mario Party type mode within Smash, but it 301 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:56,160 wasn't really as good or as well thought out as Mario Party. There wasn't 302 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,880 really There might have been different maps, but they're all kind of basic. 303 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,400 It was kind of a similar thing where you're going around and collecting upgrades and 304 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,839 then you're doing battles, and it was longer than Smash Run. It was 305 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,720 kind of like a more collective thing, but I don't know, it never 306 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,440 really did it for me, and I didn't play it a ton, to 307 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:18,160 be honest, so maybe there's something I was just missing there, But ultimately 308 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,119 it was just not really one of my favorite modess, not when I spent 309 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,400 a lot of time with. There was also the addition of special orders, 310 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,000 which is what I completely forgot about until I was looking up all this stuff 311 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,240 and watching videos of the modes I couldn't quite remember. And in special orders 312 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:36,519 there was kind of two subcategories. There are the Master orders and Crazzy orders, 313 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,559 and so you essentially go in, you'd have your currency, you'd pick 314 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,920 up a tier battle you know, easier versus harder ones, and you would 315 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,960 do some very specific type of battles, kind of like event mode from the 316 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,599 earlier games from Brawl and Melee, where it'd be a very specific type of 317 00:19:52,599 --> 00:19:53,880 battle that you would do and then you would give you some unlock at the 318 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,880 end there. So crazy orders would obviously be the more intense ones. Master 319 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,480 orders were a bit more simp I think it is kind of how it was 320 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:04,319 set up there. Once again, not one I spent a whole lot of 321 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:08,799 time with. And then you also added the target Blast, which I'm sure 322 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:12,519 most people completely forget, but this was you know, by the time you 323 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,160 came around, there was no longer break the targets at all in the games, 324 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,160 and so this is kind of their way of keeping the spirit of it 325 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200 where you It was similar to home run contests, were you're there there was 326 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,240 a big bomb and you'd smash the bomb, deal damage to it would fly, 327 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,960 and then it would like hit a bunch of targets and blow things up. 328 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,599 This was not very good, It was not very fun. It was 329 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,880 not that engaging. Really. The only reason I played it at all was 330 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,640 I remember specifically, you know, in WU it was so hard to get 331 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,160 all the special move unlocks, but I wanted all of them all because I 332 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,079 just wanted to see them and mess around with them. And this is something 333 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,000 with with Gannendorf. I remember my friend had like a Turbo controller, so 334 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:55,680 that had like extra buttons on it, and so we would just set this 335 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:59,720 up so that I would like auto play target Blast and it would just auto 336 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,960 Gannendorf smash this thing, smash all these targets, and I would just leave 337 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,680 it on for hours and then when I'd come back, it would unlock all 338 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,680 these special moves for me, So that was like, really the only purpose 339 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,599 that I have for me was using this kind of gimmick to unlock all the 340 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,599 special moves about me having to grind them all out. But it was not 341 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,960 a very fun mode. So I think the biggest takeaway here is that like 342 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:22,799 we U three ds like kind of a weaker addition in terms of the single 343 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,759 player for the setting, and I think part of that is probably because they 344 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:30,319 were stretched thin trying to create these two different versions, make the mobile version, 345 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,519 make it work on three DS, then also have these different editions for 346 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:37,599 we You, So there's that, and then going into Ultimate, so Ultimate 347 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,559 really only has two new additions and they're kind of even condensed into one in 348 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,680 a way, and that is the World of Light, and through World of 349 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,200 Light you also have the Spirit Boards. So this is kind of the new 350 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:52,440 version of Subspace Emissary or adventure mode where you're going around this huge map, 351 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,920 traveling around, moving on It's almost a little bit similar to Smash Tour as 352 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,519 well. You're moving around this map picking different battles, and it's very similar 353 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:07,680 to Event Mode where there's different changes, improvements or weaknesses on these characters, 354 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,240 maybe you're fretting multiple maybe you can't touch the ground, all these different things, 355 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,839 and this is kind of the incentive is like the spirits. You're fighting 356 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:18,960 these different spirits in the World of Light, and you can also fight them 357 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,119 on the Spirit Board, and they're kind of like, you know'll give you 358 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Mark, but it'll like change his stats, so he's like a different character 359 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,799 from Fire and Bloom. And this is like instead of trophies, they had 360 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:30,559 these spirits, right, and you're I don't know, doing these imaginary battles 361 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:34,240 so to speak. I think World of Light compared to Subspace Adversary, you 362 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,599 know, it didn't have as many cut scenes that sold. Some that were 363 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:40,079 cool and had a couple cool moments, but for the most part, I 364 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:47,200 feel like both these modes are vast quantity at the cost of lower quality. 365 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,400 You're not really that engaged with it. But there's a lot there to do, 366 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,119 And even when I go into Ultimate, I do some single player of 367 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,559 stuff, I'll still go to the Spirit Board and do a couple of battles, 368 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,160 but like it doesn't really keep me that engaged. I'd rather go do 369 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,319 Classic Mode or All Star Mode or something. So yeah, kind of a 370 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,759 weird addition. I don't think it was very successful, but I understand what 371 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,319 just how many characters they had an ultimate and they added a lot of additions 372 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,880 to like online play or the multiplayer modes, which I think is good. 373 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,359 It's good to focus on those things, but I think it's definitely at the 374 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,319 cost of like less iconic single player modes. So there you go. There's 375 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,880 kind of the history of it. There's a couple of honorable mentions. I'll 376 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,839 show it here. These are things I'm not counting. Race to the Finish 377 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,839 has never been a mode that you can select from the menu, but it's 378 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,000 more like integrated into Usually classic mode would be where it's at, and this 379 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:40,319 would be just yeah, you kind of have to run to the end of 380 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,799 a level and then you'll get some bonus at the end of it, or 381 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:49,119 you're just trying to do it within a certain timeframe. There different trophy ways 382 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,000 to collect trophies. Like in Melee, there was like a almost like a 383 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,039 little bingo machine you could do, and I think we you there was like 384 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:59,759 this falling block thing where you have to can smash these different blocks out of 385 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,519 the way. Melee as well had this thing where there was like a thing 386 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:04,480 in the center that would collect trophies and you had to like kind of run 387 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:07,559 around and smack the trophies into the center so they'd get collected. So you 388 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,279 get them challenges, you know, it's worthy a shout out here. As 389 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:14,960 I mentioned with Ultimate, there was like all this this huge challenge boards. 390 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:17,839 I'll give you different things you could go do. Brall had it as well. 391 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,839 I forget if we you had it, So that's kind of a you 392 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,000 know, an incentive to go do other single player things. And then you 393 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,519 know, honorable mention of course, just just all the additions they've made to 394 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,079 Smash, like just the basic versus battle in terms of adding tournament play or 395 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,480 like Ultimate added like the thing where you could pick a roster of like three 396 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:42,359 characters and you'd alternate between them, ability to like freeze hazards, like, 397 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,680 There's been so many additions to that, which, of course in single player 398 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,079 I still did a bunch of that stuff, making up fun little battles in 399 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,079 my mind, but I'm not really counting that for the purpose of of what 400 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,519 this podcast is about. So there you go. I think let's do a 401 00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:03,559 quick recap here and talk about yeah and break it down by games, so 402 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:11,160 the modes that exist in all games would be classic mode. Now it's weird, 403 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,279 like in Smash sixty four, it's not called that, it's just called 404 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:17,559 one player game. And there's different changes and iterations to this mode throughout all 405 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:19,400 the games. They all behave slightly differently, but I'm going to consider it 406 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,559 allays. One classic mode. Training mode exists in all games. Pretty straightforward. 407 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,920 Multiman Melee. I don't think I mentioned this I was going through. 408 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,880 I must have forgot to write this down in my notes. I wrote it 409 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,079 there, I just forgot to mention it. This is that in Melee, 410 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,359 and it exists, and I believe every game since and multiman Melee is pretty 411 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,960 simply you go in and you pick either one hundred men Melee or Cruel Melee. 412 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,799 There's different ones. You just have to fight these kind of polygon type 413 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:45,920 creatures. So yeah, you either have to kill a hundred of them or 414 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,240 just fight the cruel ones, which are really really strong. And so I'm 415 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,680 considering this to be in all games because even though this wasn't a mode you 416 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,160 could select in Smash sixty four, this was something that would be integrated into 417 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,119 the classic modes you could still do it. So yeah, just for the 418 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,400 sake of this, I'm going to consider that one multiman Melee there or multiman 419 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Smash I guess we should call it. And then a couple modes that we're 420 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,599 in every game except Smash sixty four, So added in Melee and then continued 421 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,559 is all Star Mode and then Home Run Contest. Of course, all Star 422 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,640 Mode changes from game to game in terms of how it's structured. With Ultimate, 423 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,640 you know so many characters that it works a bit differently than it does 424 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,160 in Melee, but still worth a shout out there. Modes that exist in 425 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,359 three games would be a vent mode that's in Melee, Brawl and Smash four, 426 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,519 and then the stage builder is in Brawl. Will you an Ultimate exists 427 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,240 in two games I'm calling Break the Targets, the character specific ones that's in 428 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:38,160 sixty four in Melee. And then games that are kind of in one game 429 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440 but are not really a one off, like they're kind of an iteration or 430 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:48,440 a change on a previous mode. That would be Break the Targets, the 431 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480 five to Level one from Brawl, Adventure Mode, Subspace, and World of 432 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:52,759 Light. You know, they're all very much their own thing, but you 433 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:56,000 can see how they're kind of an evolution of each other. Smash Tour, 434 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,119 target blasts and special orders from WU, Smash Run from three DS, and 435 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,279 then the Spirit Board as well from Ultimate there and then the things that I 436 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:08,599 can kind of consider a true one off is the boss Battle mode from Brawl 437 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:15,519 Board, the platforms from Smash sixty four, and then Street Smash from three 438 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,880 DS. As small as that mode is, it's worthy of shouting out there 439 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,039 as its own thing. And then yeah, so before I rank these, 440 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:25,640 that's kind of the highlight of what all of them are. I wanted to 441 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,839 just quickly talk about how some of these things are definitely iterations or evolutions of 442 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,640 each other. So break the targets. It's fun to kind of a track 443 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,559 the history of that from being the character specific version in sixty four Melee to 444 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:42,440 the five level version in Brawl and then kind of target blast in Smash four. 445 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,079 We you there, So I kind of talked about that, but interesting 446 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,839 how to see how that's always been kind of in there, and then ultimately 447 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,640 is the first time there's you know, not a target to be found anywhere. 448 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,559 Smash Tour, as I mentioned, kind of feels like you can see 449 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:00,279 the evolution into a World of Light there if you look at it. I 450 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,279 think even the way the map looks and Smash Tour looks very similar to the 451 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,240 overworld map in World of Light, so that's interesting. Events is kind of 452 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,799 something that evolved into Special Orders and then the Spirit Board. That's kind of 453 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,599 the way I look at it there. And then you know, Smash the 454 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,519 forehead Classic Mode, which kind of feels like it evolved in Adventure Mode in 455 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,680 Melee even though they kept Classic Mode and then that involved in the subspace into 456 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:27,440 Nothing for Smash four interestingly off and then World of Light for Ultimate. There, 457 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,759 so cool to see that kind of primary single player mode change and evolve 458 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,440 over time, and then special orders as well. I kind of mentioned this, 459 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,559 but this is very similar to Classic mode or yeah, special orders are 460 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,279 very similar to the like the spirit board in Ultimate is what I meant to 461 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:48,160 say there, So you can kind of see some evolutions there, and then 462 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,039 let's see I think with that we can kind of get into the actual ranking 463 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:57,119 a bit here. So I've kind of broken this into three tiers as the 464 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,960 bottom tier, the mid tier, and then the top tier. You know, 465 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,200 it's kind of an oversimplification, but I think it's good to look at 466 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,119 it this way. So in the bottom tier and number I have twenty things 467 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,799 here from my list of breakdown there, I've kind of categorized them into twenty 468 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,720 things. Number twenty is Target Blast from will You, as I mentioned, 469 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:19,240 just very weak, and then i'll just raffle the bottom ones. Actually nineteen 470 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:25,759 Smash orders or special orders, eighteen Street Smash, and then seventeen is Smash 471 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,640 Tour. So interestingly enough, that whole bottom tier consists of three DS and 472 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,799 WU exclusive modes, so I'll talk about that a little bit later on. 473 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,200 In the mid tier there, at number sixteen, I'm putting Training Mode. 474 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,000 Of course, it's very useful, it's great that it exists, but it's 475 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:44,279 just not that engaging. If you're not like a competitive level player, you're 476 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,960 not really going to use it. But I'm glad that it exists. At 477 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,680 number fifteen, I put the Stage Builder. I did put it this low 478 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,640 because there's just the lack of features and lack of engagement that it has given 479 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,599 me over the years. Number fourteen is where I'm putting multi Multiman Smash Multiman 480 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,400 Melee. You know, it's fun enough, but It's never kind of my 481 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,359 go to in terms of even just trying to push my own high scores. 482 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:10,279 It's not when I really care to do. Number thirteen is where I'm putting 483 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:12,359 the Spirit Board from Ultimate, and then at twelve is where I put World 484 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,279 of Light. So I kind of put them right next to each other because 485 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:18,720 they do feel like one kind of collective mode. This might seem a bit 486 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,720 low like even related to other modes above it that are way simpler, but 487 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,000 I just as I mentioned, it's quantity over quality, and I think I 488 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:32,720 prefer quality in this case. Glad it exists, but it definitely doesn't blow 489 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:36,759 me away. And number eleven is where I'm putting Break the Targets from Brawl 490 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,559 like the five level one. I still love Break the Targets. It's definitely 491 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,640 not the same as it is in the other games, but you know it's 492 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,359 still worthy of a shout out of course. And then we're into the top 493 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,200 ten. Number ten I put the home Run Contest. It's kind of an 494 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,519 underrated one, not when I immediately think of, but it's like it is 495 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,039 fun. It's always when I spend a lot of time with Melee and an 496 00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,759 ultimate I've done a lot of it with all the characters as well. It's 497 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:03,720 just fun to go back and check it out. And it's also fun one 498 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,920 to watch, like see the records, like all the crazy just optimization that 499 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,799 people do on it is cool and I just love that it's kind of been 500 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,160 a mainstay, you know, since Melee. It's been in there and it's 501 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,960 always the same, and I think that's perfect for a home run contest. 502 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,599 It doesn't need to change, you just need to with the new characters you 503 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,920 want to maybe try it out or with the new move set for a character, 504 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,200 see what kind of record you can get. Number nine is where I'm 505 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,119 putting the boss battles from Brawl. Really cool mode, just this boss rush 506 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,599 mode that I think is this is just no brainer. It's weird that it 507 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,200 was not included an ultimate. Number eight is where I'm putting board the platforms 508 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960 from Smash sixty four. Always love this mode. I think it's really cool. 509 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,240 It's it's too bad that it's never made a return in a bigger way. 510 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,359 Number seven is where I'm putting Event mode. Of course it's changed, 511 00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:51,039 like in Melee, there was not difficult. They got harder as you went 512 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:52,519 on, but there weren't. From what I remember, I don't think there 513 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,279 was like easy medium, hard brawl added that. I remember that, and 514 00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:59,799 then we U three DS. I think I had the very similar thing with 515 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:05,079 it. But yeah, always been a cool mode, just a fun way 516 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:08,279 to get these exclusive battles, but it very much focuses on quality over quantity. 517 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Like there isn't a whole lot of duds in there. They're all at 518 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:15,119 least interesting to do the first time. Number six is where I'm putting All 519 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,000 Star Mode. I think it kind of speaks for itself. Number five top 520 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,799 five is where I'm putting Classic Mode. This might seem maybe too high for 521 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:24,079 how simple the mode is, but it's just I think it has like the 522 00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:27,680 perfect run time, you know, maybe it takes like fifteen minutes to do 523 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880 a run through, just gives you a good variety for each of the characters. 524 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,000 It's just always a classic, and I like that always a classic pun 525 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,240 intended there, and I'm glad that it exists in all games and it's different 526 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,319 and fun in its own ways. Number four is where I'm putting Smash Around. 527 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,319 That's how much I love this mode, And you know, part of 528 00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,000 it is definitely because I did a lot of multiplayer with friends playing it, 529 00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,319 but even as a single player mode, it's when I played a lot as 530 00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,839 well, and it's really fun and when I would hope to see again someday. 531 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,720 Number three is where I'm putting Adventure Mode from Melee. I think it 532 00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:00,640 was really unique, and even thinking back on it and going back to it 533 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,200 like it is still fun to do and is even though it's not as vast 534 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480 as World of Play, I still think it's better in terms of quality. 535 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,680 Number two is where I'm putting Break the Targets, the character specific one from 536 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,319 sixty four and Melee. I love Breaking the Targets and I wish it was 537 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,920 still around. I understand why they don't do this anymore, just with how 538 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,799 many characters there is. It's a lot of work to make this individual map 539 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,000 and visual style for it, but I think it would be worth doing. 540 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,839 And then number one, with no surprise, it's Subspace Emissary, just such 541 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:36,519 a vast mode. The platform and sequences, all the battles, the boss 542 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,039 battles, the CGI cut scenes, the unlocking of characters. It was such 543 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,680 a huge success, and once again I understand why they haven't put that much 544 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,359 effort into a single player mode, since because people mostly play Smash Bros. 545 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,720 For the multiplayer of it, and something like making online play better makes sense, 546 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:59,119 as like that being of more of a priority when you're developing a new 547 00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:05,200 game over making another subspace. But someday I hope we do get another version 548 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,559 of this. It's something I want to do as another separate kind of topic 549 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,280 on side, quest to talk about like what the future of Smash could look 550 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,880 like. And I think if we really reduce the roster, make some changes 551 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,639 to it and give another big single player mode, I think that would be 552 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,360 worthy of of I don't know something of a sequel or maybe like a spin 553 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880 off for the series, But like I said, that's kind of a discussion 554 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,519 for another day. So that's the teerless there. I want to talk about 555 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,559 a little bit, a couple of takeaways and then some other just some potential. 556 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,159 So what I mentioned with targets and break the targets aboard the platforms, 557 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,400 I can understand why they haven't added these modes back, but I think one 558 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,679 of the biggest misses in the series is not integrating that into the stage builder 559 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,599 in some way, I think just not making your own break the targets maps, 560 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,039 but instead just giving that to the players to make cool ones and make 561 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:58,440 it easier to download and find other people's would be a great way to do 562 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,880 it, where of course, you know, people would recreate the ones from 563 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,440 the earlier games, and that would be fun to try with different characters, 564 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:07,039 but people would make really interesting challenges and difficult ones or just fun ones to 565 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:12,000 go through and break, break those targets, board those platforms. I think 566 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,320 that'd be just such a fun thing to do. And you know, people 567 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:19,519 could essentially make aboard the platforms via stage Builder, but it's not the same. 568 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,599 It's just not And then you know, having like maybe a high score 569 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,639 element of having those be able to download them online and then see other people's 570 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,119 scores and try and beat them. I think it would be really fun. 571 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,960 So I hope they add that with the next iteration. I find it highly 572 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,119 unlikely they would do the board the platforms part of it, just because that's 573 00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,920 been forgotten since the nineties at this point. But I think we'd break the 574 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,440 targets. That would be a great way to bring that mode back without them 575 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,639 having to do a whole lot of work, Like you know, that's simplifying 576 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:50,679 it. Of course making that integration and be able to download maps would be 577 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,360 work, but I think they wouldn't have to actually make individual maps for everyone. 578 00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,960 Smash Run, I think that should definitely come back at some point and 579 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,440 just have a lot more customization to it, changed how many battles there are, 580 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:04,679 maybe make it so there's like you get to do the Smash Run section 581 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,559 for two minutes and then do a battle, and then you get to go 582 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,679 back in there for another three minutes, improve your character, and then go 583 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,639 to a different battle and pick what those final battles are going to be. 584 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,000 I think there's a lot of potential there, and maybe some different maps or 585 00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:21,119 more changing of the maps could be something that would be really cool. And 586 00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:22,719 then, as I mentioned with Stage Builder in general, like obviously for the 587 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,280 board the platforms, break the targets, but then also just more features there, 588 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,400 more variety in terms of what you can make, the ability to make 589 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,440 better looking maps, different unique hazards. I think that would all be really 590 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,039 cool or even like maybe specific items spawn locations that could play into something interesting 591 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:44,679 as well. So that's something I hope to see added in the future. 592 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:47,960 And then yeah, we've gone the ranking, I've talked about these modes, 593 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,880 like what are the biggest takeaways from going through and like analyze it and looking 594 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,880 at all these I think the big one for me is just like, wow, 595 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,679 there are a lot more modes than I remember somebody who's play these games 596 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,880 religiously my whole life, I kind of forgot about a few of these. 597 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,960 I forgot about some of the functionality of them. And it's interesting to just 598 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,199 see how much they've done and how much work they've put into it, even 599 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:15,880 though it's never really been the primary function of these games. You can see 600 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,480 that with something like Ultimate, like how they went kind of all all in 601 00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,239 on the world of light Mode, but like they still had all these other 602 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,920 previous modes in there as well, so it's cool to see. And then 603 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,880 lastly, like Smash four both We You and the three DS version is a 604 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,679 really weird point in the series because if you look at you know, sixty 605 00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:42,239 four Brawl in Melee versus the Ultimate Smash four era, like visually very different 606 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,159 style those games had, whereas Smash four and like all those games too like 607 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,400 built from the ground up, play completely differently, look very different in their 608 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,960 art style. But with Ultimate, obviously this is the first time in the 609 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,280 series where they took Smash four as the foundation and then like built off of 610 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,400 it, you know, for lack of a better word, copy pasted Smash 611 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,239 for and then made changes there. And it's like, in general, Ultimate 612 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,280 of Course is going to be the version that people are going to go to 613 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,599 because it has all the characters plus more. Everyone is here, you know, 614 00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,679 that whole thing, and then it takes the mechanics and adds a couple 615 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,159 of new things, makes the game play a bit quicker, snappier, more 616 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,920 fun in general. So it makes one of the like that reason alone, 617 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,519 Smash for is kind of gonna be lost of time in a way. And 618 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,400 even like the three DS element that was so unique because it was you know, 619 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,320 Smash Bros. On the go for the first time. But now with 620 00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,800 Ultimate and the Switch, of course you can do that too. So because 621 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,159 of that, like Smash for is just lacked an identity. I think in 622 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,039 the history of time it's gonna lack its identity. But I also think a 623 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:50,920 big reason for that is that it didn't really have a lot of unique or 624 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,519 if it did have unique modes, they weren't very good for the single player 625 00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:57,920 stuff. As I mentioned like mostly at the bottom tier there and all the 626 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,519 higher tier stuff in my ranking with things that we're also in other Smash Bros. 627 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:05,480 Games. And so maybe there's like a unique events or something, but 628 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,679 you know, Melee and Brawl are still going to give you events. Ultimate's 629 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:13,840 going to give you the Spirit Battles. So I feel like for many reasons, 630 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,079 now that's something I'd never thought about, is, Yeah, Smash four 631 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:19,840 is going to really lack an identity for many reasons, and a big part 632 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,599 of that. Yeah, once again is that single player mode and the lack 633 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,199 of interest there. So that's too bad. And then I think, yeah, 634 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360 my last takeaway here is that, like, and I knew going into 635 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,119 this list that, of course Subspace Emissary is going to be my number one 636 00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:37,920 ranked mode, but damn, Brall really just did have the best single player 637 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:42,760 and it still does all these years later. Subspaces of course, of course 638 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,639 the biggest part of that, but it still had Target Test in some form, 639 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,440 it had events, it had Classic Mode, it had All Star Mode, 640 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:51,559 and then it also had Boss Battles, which is another unique mode that 641 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,480 no other game has had since. So I think, just without a doubt, 642 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:57,840 without a shadow of a doubt, Brawl is the best game of the 643 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,320 series in terms of the single player element of and that's also a bit of 644 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,920 a bummer one because of the accessibility of it these days has been how many 645 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,760 people have a we plugged in anymore, so you're not gonna just as easily 646 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,239 boot it up. But I also think it's the game that is aged the 647 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:15,239 worst in terms of the actual minute to minute gameplay of it, the game 648 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,079 feel of it. It's slow, sluggish, Floaty has tripping, all these 649 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,199 things that just make it not as fun to go back and play as it 650 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,800 once was, which is too bad because it has all these unique modes and 651 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,079 I'd want to go back and play them, but then it's like, well 652 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,079 then I have to play with Brawls Mechanics, which of course I'm such a 653 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:34,679 diehard melee fan now that it's especially hard to do that. But even just 654 00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,119 compared to Ultimate, which is just a way better game feel and has all 655 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,039 those characters, it's like, there's not much reason to go back to it 656 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,480 other than those single player modes. So yeah, it's kind of all there 657 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,920 was a pro and a con to all of them, and no game has 658 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480 got it perfect. Unfortunately, and so I think there's still a lot of 659 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,840 potential for a Smash as a series in terms of this single player element to 660 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,840 it, and I hope it's something that they continue to focus on a highlight. 661 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,800 Even though as time goes on, more and more people are just gonna 662 00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:06,119 play. When they go back to Smash now, they're gonna go back for 663 00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,599 the online play or go back to play with their friends. But I wish 664 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:15,280 there was more work put into making those single player modes great. So thank 665 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,760 you everyone for listening to this episode. I know it was some little different 666 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,719 and maybe a bit of a frantic episode, but I just truly love Smash 667 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,840 Bros. I love to think about it as a series and how it's evolved 668 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,599 and changed over the years, and yeah, the single player element of it 669 00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,239 is an interesting angle to look at it from. So, like I said, 670 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,079 thank you everyone for listening. This is not in place of a standard 671 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,239 a weekly side quest. You're still going to get that coming out in a 672 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,920 few days. But yeah, thank you everyone for listening. I'll see you 673 00:41:43,000 --> 00:42:04,719 again next time. Bye. Byett