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This is the Downbeat ninety seven one, The Freak All right, Jason Kidd

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at nine, Chris Catan at nine
to ten. I'll tell you that tonight

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the Been and Skin Show. They
got a lot going on this week.

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They are going to be at the
Almo Draft House tonight in Richardson ninety seven

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one Thefreak dot com. If you
want to get your tickets, it's just

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seven dollars. The movie is a
Bottle Rocket by uh Wes Anderson, Luke

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and Owen Wilson, and a lot
of the scenes shot here in Dallas.

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Very cool. I'm gonna be out
there tonight to Speakeasy broadcasting live from Alamo

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Draft House and Richardson today from two
to six. Hell, I'm gonna be

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there, so if you want to
come see me, I say hi,

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See Kevo. How are you doing
selfies? Prim autographs and everything? Yeah,

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I know autograph restrictions. Is there
any other merchandise you won't sign?

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No? Doud it all sign anything
anything up up to ten I'm legit excited.

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Six tomorrow we're doing Kat's review of
Bottle Rocket is first viewing. I'm

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looking forward to that. Crazy.
I think you're gonna love it. I

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think I am to think it might
kick off a Wes Anderson love affair,

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which you probably already liked some of
those movies. I mean Rushmore, I

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Love That's probably my favorite of his
movies, but I have not seen all

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of them. He's the radio ahead
of director. Sometimes it takes a couple

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of viewings then you're like, whoa, now we're five minutes away. Oh,

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everyone says Ben and skin Having Michael
Young and Ian Kensler in studio tomorrow

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incredible on the same week that we're
having Farah Abraham call in. We got

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her insane Chris Catan, Farah Abraham, Michael Young, Ian Kinsler. You

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know who could have thought that's gonna
be awesome. I think they'll stay for

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an hour and to get them together, hm, pretty rare. They're both

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pretty good interviews at this point because
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they were players. Yes, there
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Yeah. Yeah, But we interviewed
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ticket and he was always incredibly forthcoming, spoke is mine, super cool,

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would answer any question and kind of
fun. That's gonna be great. Bennet's

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gonna show tomorrow Michael Young and I
in Kenslor and Studio Mike's Netflix News.

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Yeah, I didn't even know this
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may make a day of it today
because I like things that hall Ass and

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cars haul Ass tell it well.
I love you know, the f One

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series on Netflix, and Netflix is
perfecting the art of, I guess,

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illuminating a sport that you may or
may not like. Its kind of like

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the end season sports documentary. Yes
series, it's so great for anyone who

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likes the sport. But apparently NASCAR's
Full Speed is just debuting. I don't

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know if it abuts today or in
the last few days on Netflix, and

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apparently they're taking the whole F one
model for a Drive to Survive and apply

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it to NASCAR. And there's an
athletic review of it that says it's is

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it good? No, it's great, And they're saying they're five forty five

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minute episodes and this thing is the
best Nascar content ever created. Apparently goes

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way behind the scenes and does the
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you know, people are already predisposed
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than they were Formula one, and
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the most valuable sports entity in the
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one's more popular than ever, and
if NASCAR can capitalize on this would be

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really cool leading up to February eighteenth, which is the Daytona five hundred,

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which I'm psyched for. Anyway,
I watched the dayton Of five hundred every

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year just out of respect for my
race and roots. You got me to

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watch it last year, dude,
it's awesome. Why not so we might

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go home today? Is that dropped? Yeah? I think it's all.

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I just got the email. Yeah, NASCAR Full Speed on Netflix now now

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playing. Apparently it's a plus.
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got turned on F one. I
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turned on F one from the Netflix
stuff that don't watch any other racing at

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all other than those events. It
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every race, read up about it, like to a level that I never

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thought i'd be into in any car
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or a really high level, but
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if this thing sets it off in
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the thing is is, I think
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just f one events because of that
show that they may that where the NASCAR

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world is maybe misunderstood or look down
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it based on a lot of history. I wonder if this is going to

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open the open eyes for people to
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brand new audience that they never had, right, and people and there are

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too huge Netflix are gonna maybe watch
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I'll watch the Daytona five hundred.
Yes. It All it does is humanize

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things. That's it. Sure,
anything at all something you don't care about

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if it's eloquently humanized right in front
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now I care about this person.
This person is interesting to me. You

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will be interested in what this person
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since Dell Earnhardt died. You know, as he well, he's not dead,

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he's just one lap ahead at this
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car into the wall after turn three, that's turn four, that was a

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sad day. Had cared. They
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remember going to I used to be
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had a lot of At some point
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it was a part time guy,
but there's a little action or at

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TMS. You're kind of around Nascar
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don't want to be around it anymore. But that was college part time job.

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I remember, you get these race
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goes to a racing going no one's
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the restrictor plates and safety was a
big issue at that time, and or

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they put on the restrictor plates and
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and it's like, Okay, well
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race. They're not going to do
any passing. Then they changed their playoff

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format, which might be for the
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I just have it. Also,
I think it's terrible that their sport,

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much like Baseball's playoffs, run into
football season. Yeah, like,

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just acknowledge who the king is and
stay away from the King. And Escar's

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tried that we're gonna do more primetime
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like that, racing the coliseum in
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that. I'm so interested in this
because I do understand NASCAR way more than

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I understood F one, because I
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thirteen years old. Well, like
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the procession line that F one is. In some cases when they race in

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Mont Carlo, you almost know there
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two passes in the entire race.
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out of respect for the spectacle of
it, NASCAR is always going to be

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bumping and passing. It is inherently
more of an exciting race day experience,

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yeah than F one is. F
one just benefits from being sexy, right,

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and being cool and beautiful people and
all over the world, and it

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is the traveling circus. Yeah,
NASCAR has Pitbull doing their pregame concert.

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Meanwhile, at the F one race, you might bump into Tom Cruise,

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that's right, But you might run
into Chris Catan at one of these races.

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Does Chris Catan like car racing?
I don't know. Joining us now

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in the freaking never know it is
now a guy. Interviewed him a couple

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of years ago. I consider him
a friend. He's gonna be at the

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Big Laugh Comedy Club in Fort Worth
this Friday and Saturday shows at seven and

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nine thirty. You can get tickets
now at fort Worth dot b Lcomedy dot

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com. It is Chris Catan.
Hello, Chris Ay, good morning.

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Yeah, I consider you a friend. Yeah, you have no recollection of

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ever speaking to this man before in
your life, Chris, It's okay,

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that is true. I don't remember
any of it. He remembers. He

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talks about you name you like,
what did he say? Yeah? What

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did you say? What? We
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talked about the Grand Prairie cobra mystery. Uh from two years ago. Yes,

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that was a big story. Yeah, you'll never forget it, you

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know at this point they did they
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the wind, Chris. He's still
in the wind like that Tom Cruise.

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Yeah, we're all still unsafe here
in the metroplexus. This cobra is still

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running loose. Didn't Chris say cobra? Didn't Chris say in that interview that

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he had a pet cobra? Did
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It depends on what you want to
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come on here too early for that. Chris's improv background would serve him well.

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As we were doing this interview a
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I have a cobra. I just
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is that my voice? Are you
doing an impression to me? Wow?

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I don't do impressions. I found
Yeah, Kevin, So what are you

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up to? Man? What what
do you do? What do you doing

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this morning? Is it? Are
you in California? It's it's early this

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morning. Huh No, I'm in
New York City right now, so I'm

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a little ahead of you. And
now I head so I'm already up.

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I did my calisthenics and I did
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Yeah. I like when I'm over
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Christ like, we're probably close to
the same age, But I like how

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I like how working out turns into
calisthenics when you hit the age of about

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forty eight. Yeah, running turns
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you're like, well, do we're
good here? Yeah? And then you

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time it, and you have a
watch that tells you when to jump and

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when not to jump. Right,
work done for the day, when's your

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rest? How many steps you've done
up the stairs? That's always fun.

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So you're in New York? Are
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last time, I think you were
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bit later in the day. Are
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in New York or do you stay
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in New York to read through for
a movie with the with Parker Posey.

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She's doing you know that. Yes, he's actually got the New White Lotus.

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She's on the New White Lotus season
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seeing Parker Posi on the White Lotus, which is very exciting and uh good

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for me too because we're doing a
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After she does White Littus. But
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was just for a read through.
And then I go back to Chicago,

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which is where I'm actually living because
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in Chicago. Uh, and I
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all over the place I guess getting
married. Huh, that's right. I'm

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getting to do Calisent. It's easier
way. You gotta squeeze into that tuck

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so riscumber bund please. I'm too
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It's not a Christopher Guest movie,
is it that you're I mean Parker

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Posey famous. No, no,
no, no, it's called Adam and

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Steve fifty five plus. It was
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that we did years ago. Nice. Actually, yeah, so but yeah

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it she'ld be pretty fun. She's
great and but yeah, no, I'm

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in New York City. I'm looking
at the beautiful skyline right now. I'm

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getting ready for the Big Laugh Comedy
tour this weekend. Yes, not the

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tour, but i'll beat the big
last comedy club in fort Worth, which

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I'm excited about doing. Is that? Is that a one offer? You

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got like a whole string of dates
coming up? I got a string of

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dates, but they haven't all been
announced yet. So right now we're just

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doing fort Worth with some new show
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right now we're gonna go on to
fort Worth right now this weekend. So

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Friday and Saturday the Big Laugh Comedy
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Laugh Comedy Club. It's incredible.
You're gonna have such a good time,

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is it. Yeah, so it's
a great club. So well, this

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is like the four Worth appearance.
Will that this be like the first time

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you're trying out some of this new
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work. You know, people in
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good people, so stull probably laugh. I assume you overestimate them joke,

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I do a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, Well I was just curious,

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you know, so the first couple
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stuff and how does that evolve?
So like you're starting a tour. All

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right, you've got thirty dates or
twenty dates or whatever. You got some

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new stuff, you go to your
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much does your set evolve on based
on audience reactions? You go out there,

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you try some new stuff, It's
like that bit didn't really go over.

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Well, I'll try a couple more
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consistency on knowing how this stuff is
going to go over how much does that

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evolve or do you just stick to
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I got, this is how I'm
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mean, it really is a good
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is a lie and I'm not gonna
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or trying to improvise it a little
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where it goes and how it thows
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new material, new material. When
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that you use that is just the
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long, but it still kind of
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laughs start to quell a little and
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gotta phase this joke out. When
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of it. Sometimes you just get
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just like, I'm just not having
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it's Friday and Saturday shows at seven
nine. You get your tickets at fort

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Worth dot b Lcomedy dot com.
It's the Big Laugh Comedy Club and for

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Worth with Chris Cantan shows at seven
and nine thirty. What do you do

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in between that time? Because you
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right, Like how do you how
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like sit down, Like what do
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I scratched your Crystal massa figure Paliston
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relax your body, that kind of
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that's too. Maybe you could relate
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when you have a crowd that's kind
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a crowd of people who are just
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that's not really on you. And
I've heard like SNL alums like talk about

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sometimes you know, you feelt like
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didn't have a good crowd inside the
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do you it's the wrong night of
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read how the crowd is going to
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show or is it just completely different
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previous to them not laughing? Like, how can I tell if they're there

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or not? That's a good way
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Usually I don't really have a bad
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you know, whether they're if they're
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somehow, and I just I wake
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you know, I just just improvise
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to get and that somehow wakes them
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but usually they are by the time
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opener that's usually funny enough to get
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they you know, that's that's you
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sometimes they're distracted or sometimes they're you
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that's okay, though I like them
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taught you mentioned openers. I was
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a tour, is it always openers
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to be approved by you? Do
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of curious how that process works.
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now I encourage local talent. I
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think that's those are people that usually
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know what they like already, and
they're really they're you know, they're close

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to the crowd the club, rather
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what they're doing and so, and
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meet, you know, So I
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talent usually. I think that's the
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go travel with the crowd with the
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you already know what they're going to
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are already working with the club.
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use the law local openers, I
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likely in their city. They also
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able to make regional references and reference, you know, a certain street or

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a neighborhood that might be you know, emblematic of some type of behavior.

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going to like get on Wikipedia or
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little little things that you can kind
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cheap reaction, but just kind of
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do you try to learn about the
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of those references as well, or
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that other stuff. I do some. I should do a lot more,

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like I should look at what's happened
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in some city, and I looked
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There's a small town and the school
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night, and they dropped off well
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the kids at the school because of
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mad about it. So I made
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you know, hey just ain't no
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that kind of thing, and so
they loved it. So I do try

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to pick up on local stuff that's
happening, stuff that's not even in the

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paper yet. But I think that's
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you just know that you're on the
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You're in Fort Worth. You know
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probably do some studying. I need
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Worth? What is some history about
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Actually, what you tell me they
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Well, that's always funny, that's
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Talk about a couple of Dallas cowboy
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you need, Oh Dallas cowboy jokes? Okay, because they're not in the

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super Bowl, or if you can
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even come close. Okay. Are
the cheerleaders so cute? They are?

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no joke there, still got that.

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I'm still at that. So are
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How's that? I mean, you
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have this week? But there it's
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They don't do any blocking or rehearsing
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would have come by if it was
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not. They're up on me at
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of a walking around their offices.
It's more distracting probably for me to go

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by, but otherwise I would.
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So yeah, that' should be fun. I'm looking forward to that, that's

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for sure. So when you're in
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just to drop in swing by,
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I'm I'm coming in today. Is
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you, uh, since you left
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Yeah, I love it. You
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I mean, there's nothing that feels
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You know that Studio eight h it's
just the rock Abutu Center. You just

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get these incredible vibes, you know, it's just it's just so uh,

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I mean, it was one of
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know, being there and I always
will be and just to be back,

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you just get these ceilings you know
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and it just feels great to be
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it a feeling. It's just magical. Do they have like a room with

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like Mango's outfit or like your classic, Like, is that stuff still tucked

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away dusty somewhere available if you ever
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think it's dusty, but I think
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know, those outfits. I think
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there's an Ethno museum I think in
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like the Rosburry guys and Mango and
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Yeah, I think there might be
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heard somebody told me Mango's shorts or
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that's mister Rogers sweater and Mango shorts
right next to the show. Yeah,

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and it's good that you're carrying on
doing your calisthenics just in case you ever

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called upon to leap up onto a
table again, like, mister peepers,

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that's right. I need my calisthenics
just the case. You're right, you

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got that right on. I think
the suit you wore when you when you

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played politician, uh Brad Beluga is
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is weird, strange, incredibly weird. Uh Yeah. A listener hollered at

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us and was like that is one
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of watching SNL. Is that weird? Probably one or two off character that

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you did. Is that crazy?
Well, Chris, we think van and

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we thank you. We're gonna send
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Chris, thank you for your time
and the enjoy your time here for

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for you guys. This is a
blast you guys. I consider you guys

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friends. Oh sweet sweet remembers in
two years when we talked to you again.

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Yeah, I we'll see how it
goes. See you, Chris,

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and congrats on the marriage and I
have fun in Texas, man, Take

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care all right, all right,
guys, it'll be a great weekends.

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Thanks for talking to you. There
he goes Chris Catan once again, the

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Big Laugh Comedy Club fort Worth this
Friday and Saturday. Cool dude, nice

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guy, right, yeah, cool
dude, kind of wild. I know

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you had a quiver full of SNL
arrows you wanted to shoot. Uh nah,

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I kind of did it last time, really, you know, and

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you never know. I mean a
lot of them are like, okay,

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since he's off SNL and he yeah, but it will always be the biggest

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thing you did or the biggest weather. I mean, yeah, there are

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a few, I guess that do
bigger things, but it ain't many,

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you know, I ain't. There's
your occasional Chris Rock, your Will Ferrell,

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you know, but Adam Samdler.
But that is episcopos. If you're

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on that show, that's the biggest
thing you'll ever do. And that's what

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Keenan always talked about. He's like, I don't never leave, like this

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is kind of like the coolest thing
you could do. Now if that's a

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stressful job and schedule as you're done
after party, you have Sunday off and

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then Monday Tuesday all day riding and
staying there. Kind of nuts, but

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all of the cocaine recovery time it
takes, but that's happening. We have

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Jason Kidd coming up next, So
yeah, go see Chris Catan and stick

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around for Jason Kidd, head coach
of the Dallas Mavericks, calling in next.

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