1 00:00:06,679 --> 00:00:24,120 Hey, everybody, Welcome back to an episode of Challenge to Podcast. All 2 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,879 about the Challenge as always. I am Brian, sitting over in Germantown Hills, 3 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, and at work as usual. Zachie Banana's 4 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:45,600 aka Dusty on a crazy lay though. Yeah that was a crazy delay. 5 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Uh and uh not in Minnesota. Actually an Idaho calling in from vacation, 6 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Carlin the other CT What a boring vacation you're calling into podcast about a reality 7 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,280 show? Hey, you know, I'm only like two I'm like twelve hours 8 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,519 into the vacation. I guess technically I left work early yesterday, so I'm 9 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,280 like twenty eight hours into the vacation. So you're taking a couple of hours 10 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,719 off to talk to some nerds all over the country about a reality show. 11 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:26,879 I mean, just remember, absolutely officially fall into the nerd category. Now 12 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,400 we've got her obsessed with doing a podcast. You can't even not do it 13 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,280 on vacation. No. I just when I make a commitment, I like 14 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,760 to keep those commitments, even if it means that I had to take two 15 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,040 hours out of my vacation to talk on a podcast about a trash TV show. 16 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,480 Just wait, I will never do that. If I'm on vacation, 17 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,120 you'll never hear from me. Yeah, I know, I've you've been on 18 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:53,200 vacation a few times with this show. What was that I feel attacked for 19 00:01:53,280 --> 00:02:02,640 last weekend? Now, Judge's super judgmental over there. It was not meant 20 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:07,560 as a judgment thing. It's just my own hang up. Uh, kay 21 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,639 mentioned we love Carlin in the chat room. Oh thanks, I appreciate that 22 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:19,159 spelled it wrong though, It's okay, No, no they didn't. Luv 23 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,159 is how you spell love? Will be? Oh? I thought you met 24 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:23,840 Carlin. I'm like they spelled her name right. I do have a bone 25 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,800 to pick with you, Carlin. Oh my daughter's best friend's name is Kaylin. 26 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,879 Oh yeah, you had this. You've had this phone to pick with 27 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:36,719 me for a few weeks. You brought this up like two or three weeks 28 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,840 ago because you've almost started calling Kaylin, and then I think Wolfie called you 29 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:43,759 out, Like, uh well, Now my my phone doesn't know what to 30 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,080 do because now I have a Carlin in my phone, but I text about 31 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Kaylin like every day, and so it's auto correcting Kaylin for Carlin all the 32 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,680 time. I mean, whatever, if it comes through as Kaylin. I'm 33 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,759 not going to be all that upset. I'm gonna, well, I'm gonna 34 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:58,960 have to change your name in my phone to Kaylin so it stops out of 35 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 correcting. Yeah, but then you're gonna then it's gonna you're gonna look at 36 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:05,000 it. Who the fuck is Klin? I don't care if I call you 37 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Klin, though, but I care if I call this child a ten year 38 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:15,039 old child Carlin. It's weird. Thanks. Yeah, so your friends you 39 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,719 don't care about, but your daughter's friends and deal. I appreciate that we 40 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,039 think about. I'm texting pariance about their daughter and calling them the wrong name 41 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,039 and ship. It looks real weird. I can understand that. Yeah, 42 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:30,280 look's kind of creepy. Yeah, hey, everybody head her a challenge pot 43 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,759 dot com join the Facebook grape. You can also draw a Patreon, which 44 00:03:31,759 --> 00:03:36,680 we'll get to it a little bit. It's a bad tell us about happened 45 00:03:36,719 --> 00:03:39,120 on this episode. Oh look, Emily's in the chat room. Emily's my 46 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:44,240 new girlfriend. Sure, this is episode number seven. Give me liberty or 47 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:47,199 give me death. West comes back in the house wearing his blue jersey and 48 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,159 immediately starts getting all woe is me super sad. West. Oh my god, 49 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,080 I felt super insincere, Like, what are you doing? I have 50 00:03:57,159 --> 00:03:59,439 a lot to say about West's game here? With what he's doing with this, 51 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:02,280 it's so annoy though. He says he's just disappointed. He's given a 52 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,280 lot to the game and he wants to play hard and he wants to be 53 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:09,400 given a chance, but a lot of them just haven't given him a chance. 54 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Less, You've been playing this game for almost twenty years. What do 55 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,879 you mean people have been giving you a chance? Yeah, it's so weird. 56 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,600 And then Fessie says he's just moping around the house. Corey says something 57 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,959 similar. Cassidy and West do this like making nice cease fire. They hug 58 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,879 in the hallway thing, and West again tells Cassidy he's just here to shut 59 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:30,839 up and look good, like it's all this weird woe is Me. Yeah, 60 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,480 But as as soon as they do that hug and he walks the other 61 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:41,040 direction, you see Cassidy's face in the camera like, okay's over the top 62 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:44,399 of noxious about this stuff. It is really weird. I mean, I 63 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:46,959 guess it is coming off of him last episode being all woe is Me, 64 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,079 Like this is the last time I'm going to be on this show and I 65 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:55,319 finally reached the end of my challenge career. But he would think that he 66 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,600 like you'd think he'd be able to snap back a little bit better because he 67 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:03,959 just won that elimination. So shouldn't he be like excited, Yeah, you 68 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,839 would think so. But people like, he's all over social media and so 69 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,439 is his wife, even talking about like what a good guy is and how 70 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,759 he's grown as a person he's and all that stuff, and people should be 71 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,040 like willing to give him a chance, which is maybe true. But also, 72 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,199 you were a dick on TV for fifteen years and people are just treating 73 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,000 you as if you've been a dick for fifteen years. I think that's an 74 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,199 appropriate thing. And West should just be like, well, I get it, 75 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,879 I gotta pay my dues now. Yeah, be the asshole for a 76 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,920 minute. Thanksful. West didn't care for the last fifteen years giving the rookies 77 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:44,279 a chance, so why should they now give him a chance? The delay 78 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:49,480 is crazy with you, Dusty. It's it's very bizarre. It's just the 79 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:58,399 Yeah, it's it's weird. Yeah, it's it's I agree with that, 80 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:02,920 leg dude. I don't know. I found this whole scene very odd. 81 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,680 It was I didn't want to deal with it. Yeah, the same. 82 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,160 The awkwardness doesn't end, though, because now we're into the West and michaela 83 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:15,759 fight, where MICHAELA is just sort of telling it like it is like she 84 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,439 always does, and Wes puts on his puppy dog face and what what did 85 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,279 I do to deserve the way you treat me? I just really want to 86 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:25,199 know. I just want to know, Like, come on, it's this 87 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:29,959 most insincere, manipulative shit. It's super annoying, and MICHAELA is having none 88 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,480 of it, and it just makes me like Michael even more. Yeah, 89 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:36,759 I really like this. She's just like not giving a shit about anything. 90 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:45,199 And we even get to a point spoiler alert later where she's just like, 91 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,639 yeah, if I get voted in just means when I win, I'm gonna 92 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,480 go to the blue team, So just you know, I'll punch that ticket. 93 00:06:50,519 --> 00:07:00,160 Thanks guys. Okay, you're talking about what's going on in this shows 94 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:08,319 over here dosing himself in the chat rooms. I'm shameless. It's great. 95 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,120 I've given at my phone number several times in the show, and I get 96 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:15,639 texts from from listeners like not rarely. You know, it's kind of cool. 97 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,920 We have one to talk about later the show. It's gonna be great, 98 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,079 all right, social scary, that's pushing it too far, not doing 99 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:27,920 if you want to defend with the Michaela stuff, because you got to defend 100 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:34,120 Wes. I am holy Night because I thought that was kind of really like 101 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,360 he was just in there my own business. And she walks into like basically 102 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,160 tells him to move out of the room, like she asks him, aren't 103 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:46,639 you going to move down to the dungeon because there's so much space? Shouldn't 104 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,720 tell him? Yeah, I think she was kind of antagonizing, but like 105 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:55,040 she shouldn't like it, that's fine. Well, and she knows that Johnny's 106 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,560 good friend or the West is no good friends with Johnny. And then he's 107 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:01,279 also heard at a little in the Alliance with Josh and those are the two 108 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:05,600 people in that room and that room has empty space, and I mean, 109 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,439 I get it. Yeah, And Mikayla Clearland wanted him out. It was 110 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 you know, she she wanted to get him out. She wanted Dusty to 111 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:16,360 win. So I get she's a little list off too, And uh, 112 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:20,279 she's probably mad because a lot of them maybe started thinking the show is maybe 113 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:26,879 a little rigged, which we may have some news about later. Oh, 114 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,519 I mean, I don't disagree. It's pretty shady last time. Yeah, 115 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:35,519 we definitely had that conversation at the end of last week, which actually exact 116 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,360 since you weren't here for it. What do you think about the outcome of 117 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:48,679 that elimination last week's elimination the last one? Yeah, yeah, I don't 118 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:54,399 know. I'm guessing because they like edit it to make it seem like Dusty 119 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,000 one and then they revealed less than the winner. Field think it's rigged, 120 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,200 But I'm always a big believer that, like these shows have so many lawyers 121 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:05,759 like sitting offset making sure they're not breaking any lot. So I don't think 122 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:13,200 it's rigged. I mean they do, but for something like this, it 123 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,759 would be relative. I mean, it feels like it would be relatively easy 124 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,399 to kind of fudge those numbers a little bit. But I don't know. 125 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:20,799 Yeah, and I don't know either, But I know that there is a 126 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:24,799 bunch of regulations for game shows like a Jeopardy or a Wheel of Fortunate, 127 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,399 But this is not really a game show. This is a This is an 128 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:30,639 entertainment show. I don't think they could get in any trouble by lying about 129 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,559 these numbers. You know, pretty would have to look and I'm pretty sure 130 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,679 that they have to like operate under the same game show the laws, so 131 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,360 they can't like rig it. They can influence the players to like do dumb 132 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:46,000 things or like do what they want, but they can't deliberately just be like, 133 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,320 oh, we don't like who wants to like, let's flip the results. 134 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,039 Yeah. I don't know, I though either way, but it seems 135 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,559 shady to me last time that just like every single person thought Dusty one, 136 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,360 and it turns out, oh no West, did even West thought Dusty one? 137 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,759 You know, I don't know. It seemed weird. But so after 138 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,200 the MICHAELA. West fight, we get a little bit of Tyler and Alyssa 139 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,440 don't give a shit about this? Does anybody on the podcast give a shit 140 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:13,000 about Tyler? I skipped through all of these scenes because I needed to get 141 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,039 through this episode as quickly as possible, because I've watched it right before recording 142 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,720 today. Well, I'm gonna blow your mind. Carl and Tyler and Alyssa 143 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:28,039 they might be hooking up. I don't mind if I enjoy both of them 144 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,759 as people, so like I I ship it. No, gross, I 145 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:37,200 don't care. I really like Tyler from Big Brother. He is not wild 146 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,879 me on this season of the Challenge. Yeah, he's just sort of there. 147 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,879 He's I don't you know. I only know him as the curly hair 148 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,960 guy. If he didn't have the curly hair, I wouldn't even be able 149 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,200 to pull him out of a crowd. He just has barely existed to me, 150 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 all right. And then we get another feature of Michaela which makes me 151 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,879 think, oh, Michaela's going in. She has her one person workout montage. 152 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:58,399 We've been missing the workout montages, guys. We got a little bit 153 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,039 of one. She talks about her yes, right, she talks about her 154 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:07,960 godfather and says inspirational things you know, as challengers do on the episode in 155 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,960 which they go into elimination. And that's it. We're into the challenge. 156 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:18,360 So that as slow as I could will be. Put your phone down. 157 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 I'm finding the article. I need to bring up what we're going to talk 158 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,320 about later. Sure. Sure, it seems like you're texting sex picks to 159 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:35,559 your girlfriend. Oop I see it. Yes, the camera as Michael talking 160 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:39,960 on her her godmother as I, oh, she's going home this week. 161 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:43,000 I wavered between the home and I knew she was going in for sure. 162 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,559 What it features anybody, It's like, Oh, they're that's they're going in. 163 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,559 I thought for sure that we were going to get an Alissa Michaela the 164 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:54,039 fight, just because Alyssa was featured a lot this episode too. They did 165 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,200 a lot of foreshadowing for that. Yep, I agree. Well, all 166 00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:01,200 right, So the challenge this week, it's called a wreck and roll. 167 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Basically, the teams. Each team has a big sphere. Two people got 168 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,559 to go in the sphere. You knock over your columns. The other players 169 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,679 grabbed the tires that were at the top of the columns. Rearrangement to a 170 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,320 word puzzle and you're done. Starts off looking like it's gonna be a lot 171 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,919 of fun, became very boring. It was. It was a little boring, 172 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:22,159 but I kind of liked like the drone shots flying around as everybody was 173 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:26,240 doing shit. That was kind of cool and I wish they did more shots 174 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:30,000 like that. Yeah, they don't often have games where there's a lot of 175 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,120 things going on in a lot of different places. Yeah, it was sort 176 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,200 of like cinematic, and I like there's like go pros in the spheres that 177 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,320 were sort of rotating along with the players and it would catch to those everyone. 178 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,480 I thought it was shot really cool. I don't know. It was 179 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,039 kind of entertaining for a minute in that way. But this was very much 180 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,200 like a one of these games where the more players you have on the team, 181 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,919 it's like a big advantage. I'm surprised they didn't do anything to sort 182 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,759 of equalize that a little bit, because it seemed clear from the beginning Blues 183 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:58,919 got a big heads up on this one, and it seemed like no, 184 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:03,120 but he was never even gonna come close to Blue. Blue just sort of 185 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:05,440 runs away from from runs away with it from top to bottom. And that's 186 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,879 kind of all there's to say about this thing. Yeah, I will say, 187 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,799 I will give stupid Johnny Bananas a compliment. He uh. Because so 188 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,799 there's already some like letters on the board, and you see him run up 189 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:24,639 with like a rock or something and put an X on those so that if 190 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:28,240 they have to rearrange, shit, they already know the ones that are up 191 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:33,639 there are like set already. Yeah, yeah, that is I mean, 192 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,720 yet again, it really does show like I agree with I'll give I'll give 193 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:43,360 it to him as well, and that it shows he does have some some 194 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,559 great strategy from playing this game for so long. Yeah, there's some other 195 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:54,240 good strategy about bananas. But you know one I think it was the Green 196 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,360 team was just rolling there their wheels to a central location and then sort of 197 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,919 kent helping each other carrying up. It seem like an interesting take on it. 198 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,080 At the end of the day, I think more players, you just 199 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:09,480 win. That's how it goes. Yeah, But as Blue is crowned the 200 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:13,600 winner, Tory says in a confessional that because Blue is one, that means 201 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:18,519 Banana's West FESSI and Tory have the numbers. They can kind of do whatever 202 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,120 they want. So boring, but a big change if you think about it, 203 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,679 from three weeks ago that these Vets were targeted and there was nothing they 204 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:26,639 could do about it. To all of a sudden, these Vets are holding 205 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:30,240 all the cards. I know. That's why I liked it the season. 206 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Yeah, they've now that they've sort of wrangled powerback, it's a little bit 207 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:37,000 more like boring old challenge. We know, we'll see, maybe it's just 208 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:41,639 for an episode. Yeah, they're true. All right, we're back at 209 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:50,919 the house. Josh talks to Fessie, and Josh's immediate plan is to throw 210 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,279 in michaela versus Channel. As part of this plan, they also have to 211 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,639 have a male decoy vote. That vote will be Tyler. They go and 212 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,159 tell Tyler right away, like, it's gonna be you, but we're gonna 213 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,840 do everything we can to make it a woman's day. Tyler is like, 214 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:09,759 mostly okay with it, but not so okay with it. If you're Tyler, 215 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:13,200 what do you do in this case? Is there anything you can do? 216 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,240 I don't know if there's much he can do. I mean, it's 217 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:22,799 up to the Blue team, so whatever. But yeah, sort of running 218 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,279 around and looking like a full like WestEd the other week, saying I don't 219 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,399 care here, vote for a girl. Yeah, since he's from Big brother 220 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:37,559 he does understand the idea of pawns going up. At least so he knows 221 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,120 it's a situation that can work. Yeah, he doesn't necessarily have to worry 222 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,399 about it, but there's always something that can go wrong though. Yeah. 223 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,200 I mean that's the thing they always say in Big Brothers, the pawns always 224 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,960 go home. Because I think he knows it's always risky. Yeah, yeah, 225 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,080 it certainly is risky. I think the Challenge, though, at least 226 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,559 you get a chance to win. So even if Tyler thrown in, he 227 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:03,679 can, you know, he's not out of the game real But either way, 228 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:07,399 yeah, he doesn't fight it too hard. This is where we start 229 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,240 seeing a lot of focus on Tiffany. So again I'm thinking, oh, 230 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:17,559 it's Tiffany versus Michaelan. She is in the room talking to Chanelle and Alyssa. 231 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:21,480 She's crying. She's saying she's not really cut out for this show. 232 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,120 She's feeling sort of out of place and overwhelmed. What'd you guys think about 233 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,000 this scene with tiff I think she's right. I don't think she's super cut 234 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,360 out for this because she's not really cut out for the physical part of it. 235 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:41,320 As we saw in Big Brother. Her strategical strategicy can go on match 236 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,559 sometimes, like sometimes she comes up with some of the best plans, but 237 00:16:44,759 --> 00:16:48,759 yeah, I on a show like The Challenge, it's hard to sort of 238 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:53,639 get those plans going and get them to work, right. Yeah, I 239 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:57,360 mean, minus the physical side of this. She kind of reminds me of 240 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,880 Lolo because she doesn't I don't know she can take. Yeah, the way 241 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,599 that she reacted later on in this episode, it feels like she can't take 242 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:18,000 the like the emotional side of this game either. She freaked out the elimination 243 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:22,359 later on. Yeah, I think this is this is the game were you 244 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,200 expecting to never have to go in to like potentially always be safe, like, 245 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,079 But then she turned it and focused it on Josh, So I was 246 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,880 okay with it. Yeah, I agree with that too, But I think 247 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,799 you know that one challenge that she was talking about, She's like, oh, 248 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:41,599 this is swimming and endurance and memory, and I'm not good at any 249 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,240 of that stuff. And it's like, Okay, this isn't your show. 250 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:47,920 Then tip like, if you have a weakness, you can you can sort 251 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,839 of work around your one weakness. But if you're weak and all these things, 252 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:52,640 it's just it's not your show. And you do have to have some 253 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,519 athleticism in the show. You just have to. Yeah, you definitely do. 254 00:17:56,079 --> 00:18:00,079 So if she's not athletic, then you know she probably doesn't belong on 255 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,680 the show. I mostly liked if I really do, but she annoyed me 256 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,559 with this line and one of her confessionals. She says people always ask me, 257 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,480 is it hard being so strong? I'm just like, oh, you're 258 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,680 full of shittivity. Nobody's ever asked you that. Nobody in the history of 259 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:18,400 humans has ever asked another human being that question. Wolfee, is it hard 260 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,920 being so strong? It's pretty soft? Carlin, is it hard being so 261 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:27,160 I've never heard that question from anyone before. No, it is such a 262 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,440 stupid thing to say. It's a weird question. Yeah, it never happened. 263 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:36,759 But anyway, the girls just say to to if all the stuff that 264 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,160 people always say in these situations of like it's a mental game. They're getting 265 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,000 in your head and it's you just have to believe you deserve it, and 266 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:48,720 then you do, and it's all this inspirational stuff and blah blah blah. 267 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,480 Yeah, I hate being inspired. Just leave me alone, you know. 268 00:18:53,319 --> 00:19:00,319 All right, Well that's it for this. We're into nominations, all right. 269 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,440 So Blue team assembles, they're out in that patio or whatever the fuck. 270 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,440 There's not much debate here. The vets of sort of aligned. They 271 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,400 know what they're doing. They do like a round table vote just to make 272 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,119 sure everybody's voices are heard. But the vets are gonna get their way it's 273 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,079 almost like we've had a discussion about this. Yeah, it was kind of 274 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:23,640 condescending towards the end, you know, but yeah, the Bananas throws out 275 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,839 Michaela's name, Tori throws out Tyler's name. Some people disagree. Survivors seem 276 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:33,319 to be sticking together, but they're outnumbered. So that's it. It is 277 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,559 Michaela and Tyler. I don't have anything else to say about this nomination. 278 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,759 Pretty cut and dry, pretty cutting dry. Michaela does the oh my god, 279 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:47,920 I'm so shocked when she sees her name out there. Yeah, and 280 00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:52,240 then she immediately goes and confronts Josh, saying like, I know you had 281 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,599 something to do with this or whatever. And Josh immediately says, why why 282 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,000 are you thinking it's weak? But we saw earlier it was totally him. 283 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,799 It didn't make this decision. I didn't make this play. It wasn't me. 284 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,359 Yeah, it's weird. He's trying to be like a powerful guy behind 285 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,440 the scenes, but then he doesn't want to own it. I don't understand 286 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:15,119 what his I don't understand what's going on with him to do it behind the 287 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,480 scenes, and if everyone knows you're the one doing it, you're not behind 288 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,359 the scenes. Yeah, that's probably I'm probably more thinking like survivor, you 289 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,559 should own your moves. But yeah, I mean Josh doesn't need to make 290 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:26,759 any more enemies, and I don't think people are going to target him no 291 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,799 matter if they know he made these moves or not. He's the weakest person 292 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:41,720 there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but Michaela does have an interesting question 293 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:45,759 here where she just confronts Josh and says like, I don't even know why 294 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,759 you care about getting strong women out, Like, what difference does that make 295 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,119 to you? It shouldn't impact your game at all, whether strong women are 296 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,720 here or not. So what's your point? Uh, She's right. Why 297 00:20:55,799 --> 00:21:00,480 why is Josh aiming for strong women just because he's doing what Tori wants them 298 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:03,640 to do. Essentially, it's looking out for his his girls and his alliance. 299 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I mean there could potentially 300 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:15,039 be some strategicy around it, just with I mean, if you have strong 301 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:19,599 girls on a team, then that team is automatically going to be stronger, 302 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,279 and if that's not your team, then your team is going to potentially lose 303 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:30,319 to that stronger team. So yeah, I don't know, I could see 304 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:32,440 it in that aspect, but at the same time, yeah, it is. 305 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,640 It is weird, but yeah, I can see why they want it 306 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,640 to be a women's day because then it's not a man's day. So that 307 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,400 one like, yeah, so anyone, but that in that case, it's 308 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,200 like any woman to pick the weakest ones that have no alliances here and nobody 309 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,960 should care. But yeah, sure what you guys says one. If keeps 310 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,000 the guys have elimination Two, it helps out Tory, which he wants to 311 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:56,079 do. I think also of them. Three is you know, I didn't 312 00:21:56,079 --> 00:22:00,400 always look at the strongest women is just the most physical. We kind of 313 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,839 like the strongest also in the sense of who has the best capability to like 314 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,000 gather people inform like a counter you know, alliance against us. So by 315 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,759 getting out the strong players, you know that are very vocal, they can 316 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:18,480 just have steam roll the more laid back players. Well, I mean again 317 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,799 you could still like losing to a team isn't necessarily just in the I mean 318 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,880 it is in the in the challenge, but if you can get a team 319 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,759 to rally so that they all vote for your team, like all vote players 320 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,200 on your team in or they are all kinds of things. I agree with 321 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,319 e Zach. I think strong doesn't necessarily mean just on the field, Yeah, 322 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:45,119 but it is also it's it is a gameplay that has been used for 323 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,319 twenty plus years of get the women out because the women are weaker. Yeah, 324 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,680 yep, I agree. All right, So we get Desisi and Chanelle. 325 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,880 They're in their room. They're sort of debriefing about the team nomination. 326 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,640 Is talking about what happened in there, and Chanelle starts going off and saying, 327 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,720 you know that that eventually the survivor, the survivor strong stuff is not 328 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,400 going to hold up, and she's sort of is already looking at Michelle like 329 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,599 Michelle might be the first survivor. We cut as she's talking about Michelle. 330 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,119 Michelle comes wandering in. I always love it when this happens in the house, 331 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,000 doesn't Chanelle Like seemed like they played that off really well. I don't 332 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,519 think Michelle thought anything that was happening there. But we do learn from her 333 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:32,960 confessional that she she says she's also looking outside of Survivor for allies, and 334 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,599 that she knows this survivor strong thing isn't gonna last much longer, so she's 335 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:38,039 sort of looking for a way at herself. Looks like Survivors starting to crumble. 336 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:44,799 Guys, how do we feel about that? Yeah, it's gonna happen. 337 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,119 Yeah, it kind of has to. But it's weird that they're they've 338 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,880 been so successful. Why don't they just stay successful, you know what I 339 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,480 mean? Stay together and stay stay kicking ass because they're dumb fair enough. 340 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:00,039 I mean, I'm happy about it because it I don't know, there's something 341 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:04,359 about this whole we need to say stay Survivor and big Brother strong that drives 342 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,200 me nuts. But I also think if you're on Survivor, you got kind 343 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,160 of look at it and be like, Okay, let's say we stick with 344 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,200 this and we get to the end. It's all Survivor Like where am I 345 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:15,960 in the pecking order? Because if you're on the bottom half, it makes 346 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:22,480 sense for you to start looking to turn on Survivor if you have a reasonable 347 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,400 place to turn to. And I guess that's what Michelle's That's what Michelle's looking 348 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,000 for here. And also so you know, I know I've said early in 349 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,400 the season like I feel like, if your goal is to come back to 350 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,200 the show and do it for the next five ten fifteen years. Like it 351 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:37,400 is a very click is show. You know, a lot of times we 352 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,880 see the rookies go in or the like the less connected people go in early. 353 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,279 So I think it like benefits like Michelle in the long term to try 354 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:48,720 to work with like the Wess's and the Fast Seas and the Bananas at the 355 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,839 world, because those are the people she'll see time and time again that can 356 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:56,759 help get her into that power position future seasons of like get coasting to the 357 00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:02,920 end. Yeah. Kay mentioned that Michelle is sort of aligned with the Vets 358 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,839 sort of, but she's low on the list, and that's also true. 359 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:08,519 So I think she's looking for a home where she's a little higher up in 360 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:14,359 the picking winner. Yeah, I mean is there one though, both sides 361 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,279 against each other, you know, pickoff a Vet pickoffs Survivan just bounced back 362 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:22,880 and forth. Yeah, you're probably right. All right, Well with that, 363 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:30,000 guys, we get another club nights. There we go. Yeah, 364 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,279 the big thing at this club night, guys, is Banana and West staging 365 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:38,519 an event where Tyler and Alyssa kiss. I skipped through this entire thing. 366 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,680 All right, Well, I just I just told you everything you need to 367 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:48,720 know. Uh, was just which was just like Tyler and Alyssa separately going, 368 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:56,599 oh, I really want to So it's just them finding a couple of 369 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,559 around thirty year old people to stage an event to where they could kiss. 370 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,799 Yeah, it seems strange. It was very strange, very high school. 371 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,400 I don't know. Well, Bananas and West, do you say that that 372 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:15,880 you have to make your own entertainment. Yeah, so they're basically just coming 373 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:22,240 up with something to do while they're out because they're bored especially, that's fair 374 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:26,400 enough. Yeah, it did crack me up when Alyssa referred to them as 375 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,720 the drunk uncles of the house. I did like that too, the old 376 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,839 dudes. We get scenes of them in bed, cuddling, making out. 377 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Never got under any covers that I saw, so I think there was no 378 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:45,160 insertion. Alyssa says she didn't trust any of the people in this house or 379 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,759 any of the cameras in this house. I like that we can see each 380 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:53,480 other on video because you made quite the face about that one of Carlin's. 381 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:56,880 That's how a serious a relationship. That's how you judge it. The level 382 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,160 of insertion there, whether it's just the tongue or if it's something more. 383 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:14,559 That's right, something inserted somewhere. Carlin really regrets. I sound like such 384 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,160 a prude whenever we're on this show. That's right, that's your job, 385 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:26,279 keep us, keep us in line. Ten seconds sex, yeah, Kay, 386 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,039 says that's because I'm big brother the guy she had sex with less than 387 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:37,920 ten seconds, and that was captured on that was captured on television. Poor. 388 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,039 Yeah that sucks for her because that yeah, that that just sucks for 389 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,319 her. But that really sucks for him because he will forever be known as 390 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:49,240 the guy who lasted ten seconds. Yeah video proof. Oh god, that's 391 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,759 awful. All right, Well that's that. Then we get into the secret 392 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,079 vote. I don't like the secret vote anymore. Guys. We never know 393 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,960 who votes for anybody, So what's the point of them just showing them put 394 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,359 random balls and the thing and hitting the thing. Yeah. I do kind 395 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,599 of wish they would show, like, actually show who voted for who a 396 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,839 little bit more often. I think this show could afford five seconds of just 397 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,880 I'm voting for so and so because of this, and then you hit the 398 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,359 button because yeah, we don't know. We still don't know who's voting for 399 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,839 anybody. Stupid man. I think i'd love if they did kind of like 400 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,799 Survivor style, like on Survivor at the end, like during the credits they 401 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,200 have showed the monte who everyone voted for. Yep, that would solve some 402 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,599 mysteries here, because there's always some even people on that TV thing, you 403 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,359 know. Yeah, even when they when they pop up the counts of everybody, 404 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,359 like when they pop up account for Tiffany, she looks around like what 405 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,920 the fuck. Yeah, And it could just do a real quick of like 406 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,000 Tiffany, I'm voting for you. It doesn't even need the reason why Tiffany 407 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,279 it's you, Tiffany, I'm voting for you, just the real quick run 408 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:51,400 through the four people are. Yeah, this is where the black and white 409 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,240 flashbacks come in that they like to use on any everything else. Yeah. 410 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,559 I mean they could even do like four four poster type of things, like 411 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:04,440 where it's divided into four boxes and it doesn't even like have the voices, 412 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,839 or it does have the voices and they all say something similar, And I 413 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,599 think, yeah, there are a lot of ways they could do this. 414 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,200 Yeah. I think at the bottom screen just like pop up like the faces 415 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,640 of like the people that voted for them, like just cutouts of their face. 416 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,519 Yeah, that'd be fine too, and say, at least the viewers 417 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,359 got to know. Yes, it really does seem important to the game too. 418 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,559 If there's like seven votes every round that we don't know who's voting for 419 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,880 people, it seems like an important thing to know why we watch these people 420 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,599 play this game. But what do I know? All right? Well, 421 00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:45,119 with that, we're onto elimination. God damn it, eliberation. Yes, 422 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,640 I'm getting parched doing that all right. Teeds reveals the votes. It's Tiffany 423 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,240 with two votes, Monty with one, Alyssa with one, Josh with one, 424 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,440 Corey with one, and Chanelle with four. I liked. I liked. 425 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,359 When they hit Josh, he looked around like what, Yeah, who 426 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,720 would have voted for me? And then he thinks it was Chanelle for like 427 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:14,559 he has no reason, yeah, because she's not making eye contact with him, 428 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,079 Like, dude, you're all standing up there looking at t J Why 429 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,960 would she make be making eye contact with you when you're all looking in the 430 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,279 complete different direction like yep. And so if Chanelle did vote for him, 431 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:27,200 I'd like to know why. And if she didn't, I want to know 432 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,400 that. So Josh looks like a fucking idiot here. No, who knows 433 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,720 how accurate this is, But according to Wikipedia, Chanelle did was the vote 434 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,440 for Josh. But I also, ironically, Josh it says voted for Chanelle 435 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,480 that round. So yeah, room to speak. Well, he's a hypocrite, 436 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,400 and we've known that for a long time. He's a douche bag hypocrite. 437 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,440 Gay well, and it's also one of those things where like I almost 438 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,720 feel like if you catch someone looking at you when your name gets called, 439 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,839 you're almost more inclined to believe that they're the ones that through your name in, 440 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,799 because if they didn't throw your name in, then it was just kind 441 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,799 of oh, yeah, that sucks. But I'm just gonna continue looking at 442 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:11,480 TJ because he's saying other names, right, Yeah, Scott said if she 443 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,599 was looking at him, he claims she was staring him down because she voted 444 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,119 for him. That's right, that's a good point, yep. Well, 445 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:26,400 TJ flushes the toilet and out pops Tiffany. So this is a Tiffany versus 446 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,559 michaela battle for tonight. I really wanted the way that they were building this 447 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,279 up. The moment that Tyler's name didn't get pollar that Tyler got sent back 448 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,480 up to the to the group. I so badly wanted TJ to say a 449 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:47,640 Lista's name. Wanted that my fingers and cloth, my toes got crossed, 450 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,440 and I'm so excited. I didn't want him to go in. I'm so 451 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,039 happy, and I wanted it to just be like, well, so teach, 452 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,960 who is it? It's a Lissa And for her, she's like, 453 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,640 what would have been amazing? I was kind of hoping it would have been 454 00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:07,240 Josh like got called down. That would have been great too, Josh, 455 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:13,160 you're playing Michaela, just because we felt like the way that this goes really 456 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,519 content in there. The hopper doesn't lie. Well, Josh is going on 457 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,519 no matter what, no matter what, elimination against whoever, it doesn't matter. 458 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,799 He's going on. Well, in this case, it's Tiffany versus Michaela. 459 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,000 Before they get to the game, though, Tiffany comes out and throws 460 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:30,200 a hissy fit down in the sand. She has some points, so this 461 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,240 is when she starts yelling at the men, like, you guys are being 462 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:36,039 pussies and hiding behind these votes and always throwing in women to keep yourself safe. 463 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,440 But that's stupid. She's got a point with some of this, and 464 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,400 you guys think she does. But at one point in time she yields about 465 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,759 how it's not the strong women who were beating your at the kind of are 466 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:52,440 So I found that a little strange to say, But yeah, she wasn't 467 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,839 totally accurate here, but she had some points. And just because it doesn't 468 00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:58,880 seem like there has to be an even amount of girls and guys' days, 469 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,039 like, I feel like it makes sense that every time you vote, you 470 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,880 should always vote for the opposite gender, So I don't see any purpose for 471 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,599 the men to vote in other men. Yeah, yeah, he's probably right. 472 00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:15,200 Uh well, Josh of course takes this tantrum very personally, even though 473 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,519 she is not talking to him or even about him, more just talking in 474 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,599 general for the men. And Josh just comes up and says, that's not 475 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,400 fair. I don't like you talking like that, and blah blah blah, 476 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:30,759 makes it all about him as he tends to do. Everybody's out to get 477 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,039 him, just like, yeah, pathetic. I don't like that guy. 478 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960 All right, Well that's it. The game is called top heavy. We 479 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,720 haven't seen this one before. She's they stand on top of these beams they 480 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:45,400 throw their body weight back and forth, they pick up a basketball, they 481 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,480 swing it the other way and try to throw a basketball into hoop. I 482 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,480 knew Mikailo was winning. I think everybody did, like right away, immediately 483 00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:57,960 right Was there ever any doubt any from anybody in the in the room mirror. 484 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,279 I felt for Tiffany, she at least got one. I felt I 485 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:07,639 was worried. Yeah, yeah, it was. Usually they try to make 486 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,400 it seem close, and they get the confessionals of people saying like, oh, 487 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,039 it's a nail by her, it's close, it's anybody's game. There 488 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,199 was no way to do that with this game. No, everybody was just 489 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,320 like, ah, yeah, this is Mikayla's game. Tiffany looked like me 490 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,840 trying to throw a basketball. Yeah, because when I was like watching tip 491 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,800 now they're like leaning back and forth. It seemed like she was barely leaning, 492 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,920 like her heart wasn't in it and she's just already like just ready to 493 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,800 go home. Yeah, she did kind of. I don't know if if 494 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,360 it was her heart wasn't in it, or if she just wasn't super comfortable 495 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:45,199 with having to like truly throw your body back and forth. Yea yeah, 496 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,679 Scott says, I would have loved to see Josh and his uncoordinated and you 497 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:58,480 would have fallen off and immediately just dangled there, guys, how do I 498 00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:02,320 get back up? All right? Well, that's it for the episode. 499 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,840 Michaela and a confessional says she's gonna take Tory spot and blow up the Blue 500 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,400 team. I was so excited to see this. This would have been such 501 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,840 a great story. But TJ says, Nah, you don't have any decisions 502 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,840 to make go back to your team. I feel like we were robbed of 503 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,039 that. How great would that have been to see Michaela get on the would 504 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:22,960 have team would have been a good moment. It would have been amazing. 505 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:27,039 I'm so upset we got robbed. It would have been good. But I 506 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:31,760 also enjoy individual like seasons and like moments, so like I'm excited for this, 507 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,800 I am too. I mean, it's it's great whenever the game switches 508 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239 like this, But give us one week of michaelan Blue. I just think 509 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,400 that would have been a lot of fun. Perfect kind of wish is that 510 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,599 she had that TJ had held off for you know, ten seconds. Let 511 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,079 her say that she wanted to go to Blue and then be like, well, 512 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960 that's cute, but it doesn't actually matter. It would have been fun 513 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:00,440 to get everybody's reaction of, right, oh, she's taking Tori's place, 514 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:07,239 What Tori's going to green? What I'm ever going to get real animated about 515 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,039 it? And then no, yeah, we're not, We're not doing that. 516 00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,079 Yell, are all on your own thing? Yeah, that would have 517 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,960 been fun. Well that's it, guys, the episode's over. What do 518 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,679 we think is next in this phase of the game. It's an independent game, 519 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,599 obviously, what changes though, Well, you didn't mention that it's no 520 00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,159 more teams. That was TJ's big twists, and I just say that it's 521 00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:35,239 an individual game now, Oh I didn't hear you. Thanks, I mean 522 00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,679 thanks. I have a feeling that they're going to do a lot of the 523 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:44,360 same things that they have done in previous seasons where they're if they I mean, 524 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,679 I know they say no no more teams, but I have a feeling 525 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,840 that they're probably going to be playing games in groups where it's a random grouping 526 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,760 of people for some things, and then other things will truly be individual challenges. 527 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,000 I think so too. I think we'll have, you know, a 528 00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,480 game that's all pays is in a game that's teams and maybe an individual game 529 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,559 thrown in there. I think we're gonna see some flip flows stuff here, 530 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,599 but it'll get interesting. I do think, Sorry, is that go ahead? 531 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,280 I say, I do feel like for some reason, now that's an 532 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,119 individual that the like the rookies, will have a more open mind to like 533 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:22,480 really embracing the veterans and like playing with them. Yeah, oh see, 534 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,760 I want to see the opposite. Have everybody just be like, nah, 535 00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:30,280 we're all voting rookie or veterans out first, right, because now there's more 536 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,880 rookies than there are veterans. I mean, if they were smart, they 537 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,239 would do that. But I have a feeling I'm kind of with Zach. 538 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,440 I have a feeling that they're going to probably look at Johnny and or Johnny 539 00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:43,840 and West especially and be like, you guys have played this game a lot. 540 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920 You guys want to won this game a lot. Let's be friends. 541 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,280 Give us some pointers for doing this by yourself. That's dumb, it is, 542 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,360 but I just have a feeling they're going to do that. Zach, 543 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,360 do you have the remaining cast list on hand? By chance? Because there's 544 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,599 there has to be more men than women at this point, right, is 545 00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:06,079 there like two or three more men than women just because we've had more women 546 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:10,760 eliminations. Because my prediction is that they're going to purge some dudes. We 547 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,519 got to even up these teams. Oh yeah, I can see that. 548 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,599 I think we're gonna have a dude purge and then and then we're gonna have 549 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,480 a male and a female elimination every episode. Oh yeah, so we currently 550 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,039 have nine men left and seven women. Okay, so that's not too Yeah, 551 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,199 I could see a purge that could be fun. We could have a 552 00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:34,159 double elimination for men, or a purge or something like that. Even up 553 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,360 those numbers. I bet that's what's gonna happen. And then they're gonna have 554 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,800 one of each off every week. Do you think they're going to do a 555 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,599 mini final next next week? Oh? I don't know. I mean I 556 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,039 feel like that's typically what has happened in the past, like when they move 557 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:53,800 from groups to pairs or groups to individual they the purge starts by doing a 558 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,400 mini final. You end up with, well, how many episodes are you 559 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:04,239 left? K asked that I think there's five left. I think there's twelve 560 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,280 total. M all right. I think we're just getting close to the final. 561 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,840 The teams are looking small. When it shows the big shots, it's 562 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,039 like, oh, yeah, a lot of people have gone this season, 563 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:22,400 I guess, but yeah, I think there's five left. Nice Kay Winston 564 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880 to who we see winning, I forget who I said at the beginning of 565 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:31,119 the season. Well, I chose Lewis and he's gone. But I think 566 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:37,000 I also chose Michelle. I think I chose Bananas and Deisi, who are 567 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,639 both still there. Yeah, somebody picked Tiffany. That might have been new 568 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,119 Tim Damn fuck that one. Daisi's got a chance to win this thing. 569 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,960 She is tough this season. I think Desi and Michaela have a really good 570 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,719 shot on the women's side. Speaking of Desi, did you go back to 571 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:59,599 see her uncensored word shot? Well, un, I'm a member of the 572 00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:06,280 incredib sexist challenge picks subreddit where it posts skippy details of these challengers and all 573 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,400 sorts of various states of undress, and so somebody screen captured those and posted 574 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,119 them there, so I've seen them. Yes, it's on TV. It's 575 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:17,519 fair game. I'm not It's not perfect. That's not a perfect thing, 576 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,559 right, that's okay. It's okay to do that a pervert. I'm not 577 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,760 a pervort. I must have missed those blurred sections when I was watching it. 578 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,880 You gotta focus on the on that butt, Zach. Yeah, it 579 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,199 was when they were on the Heights Above Water and Trivia Challenge and the Blue 580 00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,920 team all pulled their pants down. It's when it was on CBS, though 581 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,920 it's unblurred on Paramount Plus. So I watch had challenge. I was kind 582 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,639 of like multitaskings. How wasn't like having my full folcussk. I didn't realize 583 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:47,840 saying with the camera, Yeah, I don't worry about focusing on e Zac. 584 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,480 It's not like you do a podcast about it or anything. It wasn't 585 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,360 really mooning though, Like her shorts just kind of got hiked up and it 586 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,639 was like she was wearing like a bikini bottom essentially. Like at the at 587 00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:04,599 the beginning of the challenge, they all actually mooned the camera because they were 588 00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:08,239 saying asked glass and they all pulled their pants down. Oh, it was. 589 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,559 It was a wide shot. It was all three you could see all 590 00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:16,480 three teams and they were all very little. Oh so that's not gonna do 591 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,760 anything for me. Then I need a up close shot. Kay, listen 592 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,639 about smashing. I sure hate that guy. I hope we never see him. 593 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,360 A really cute puppy him, I don't know. I don't like his 594 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,599 face. It's he's got a weird face. To me, I don't know. 595 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:35,239 I don't like it. I don't like his eyebrows. It is very 596 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,760 much a face person. I don't like your face. I don't think that's 597 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,960 face. He's got a weird face, right, Sebastian, Yeah, he's 598 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,400 so. He looks like Ammo to me, and I can't I only see 599 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,960 Ammo every time I see him. He looks like I don't have an issue 600 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,639 with that. It just it. He just looks like someone else. Yeah, 601 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,599 what kind of puppy is a Carlin's a little golden middle puppy and like 602 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,360 ten pounds. It's really cute, I have, Kay says, people say 603 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,039 it looks like Jordan. I have to see a few people calling him which 604 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,000 version of Jordan? Yeah, I'm only just said yeah, I mean I 605 00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:13,039 said, I said he looked like Jordan at the beginning of season. Similar 606 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:15,800 fashion and style I can see, but no, Jordan is a beautiful similar 607 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,679 terrible haircut. Yes, absolutely, Yeah, Tory's got a thing for bad 608 00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:22,119 haircuts. But in the face, Jordan's got a lovely, beautiful face. 609 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,400 Sebastian Tim Sebastian's weird? Do I think Tim just says because he's jealous because 610 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,599 he doesn't have a haircuts. Yeah, because that's the same same excuse that 611 00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,880 I have. Ye, he's going to Nashville Challenge. My knish I cut 612 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,840 my hair really weird before I go. Don't you have a girlfriends? Yes, 613 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,079 maybe ask your girlfriend? Does your girlfriend going with you in the Nashville 614 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:51,199 Challenge, Maynie? I don't believe. So isn't she like right there in 615 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,360 Nashville? Where is she Kentucky? Nashville is not in Kentucky. Yeah, 616 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,440 Nashville is more like central West. She's like far east. Okay, Jay 617 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,639 says I Also, I saw they edited it out Fessi versus Fessi versus Bananas 618 00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,239 and Josh this episode. Yeah, I saw a video clip of that online 619 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,519 somewhere. FESSI was yelling at Bananas looking like an idiot. You know. 620 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,320 Fessi was featured a little bit, a bit more than he has been early 621 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,840 in the episode. Yeah, and I was at first, I was kind 622 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,760 of like, Oh, so we're gonna get a fessy heavy episode. He's 623 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,639 gonna look like a dick again, and then that just kind of fizzled out 624 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:34,960 to I wonder if they I wonder if there was a reason as to why 625 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,320 they pulled that footage. Yeah, I don't know. Hey, everybody had 626 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,880 every challenge doot dot com join the Facebook group. You can also draw a 627 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,360 Patreon What did people get when they joined the Patreon? Tim pre shows after 628 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,280 shows? Carlin may or may not be on today's pre show, but there's 629 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,719 years and years worth of pre show and after show content. You can hear 630 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:57,280 me and Wolfie's ex wives on those shows. That's a lot of fun. 631 00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,000 You also get access to the discord, which I forgot, which I forget 632 00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,000 to talk about. I would have done a live stream, but nobody seemed 633 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,760 interested in doing that again on Thursday. But that would have been fun during 634 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,960 the discord. If you want a live shot with me on they're thirty episodes, 635 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,719 I'm usually bored. Also for that five dollars, we say your name, 636 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,719 So thank you to Abby, Elena, Alvin, Amanda Aspen, Brian 637 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,960 cab Carlin, Chris, Christine, Christopher Cindy, Derek, Elizabeth, Ellen, 638 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,039 Emily, Greg, Heidi, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jennifer Joker, Julie, 639 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:28,559 Katherine, Katy, Christy, Kyla, Loreen, Leanne, Lily, 640 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,440 lj Lords, Martez, Mendy, Patty, rolled In, Ryan, Sam 641 00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:35,000 Sarah. I must have filtered this wrong. This doesn't seem right to me. 642 00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:37,840 I was just gonna keep going anyway. Scott, Seth, shack, 643 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,519 Stan, Stephen, Tara, Taylor, Will and Xavier who thank you. 644 00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:49,039 Everybody appreciate we have another? Do we have another? Carlin? Who listens? 645 00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:53,360 Because I don't think I remember our Patreon anymore. You don't think so. 646 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,960 Did I say your name? I said Carol, Carolyn? No, 647 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,239 you said my name. Oh I think Carol. I think you're saying my 648 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:07,559 name Carolyn. Carolyn didn't mean to. According to the pre show, he's 649 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,480 got Carlin on the brain. Yeah. Always, my phone is constantly changing 650 00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:15,480 Galen to Carlin. Now, Emily, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to 651 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,440 use her up your position, your boyfriend's life. She's texted me already, 652 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:27,039 by the way, added to the list of listeners that text me it's great. 653 00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,840 I love it, he tamped. Do we have your reviews? No, 654 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,559 but we have something that applies to the reviews. Speaking of people that 655 00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,239 text me privately who listen to the show, one person who remains in it, 656 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,840 who shall remain nameless, texted me saying that they felt like we were 657 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,800 calling out all Republican voters, as if we didn't like them or felt they 658 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,599 were stupid or something. I just want to make it clear. I do 659 00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:54,880 not think Republican voters are stupid. I think politicians are stupid, and I'm 660 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,199 gonna say that every time. And I don't think they are aligning with our 661 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,360 best interests. That's all. Fair enough, guys, All right, fair 662 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:13,840 enough, fair enough, Carlin's biting your lips. I will my judgment. 663 00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,519 Uh Kay brings up. I have the article to read. I'm going to 664 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:22,119 but first I gotta ask Zach. Any social media stuff, uh not that 665 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:25,920 I've saw. I'm looking right now because apparently someone said that. Kay said 666 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,320 that the Laurel called out West, but I'm not seeing anything on her Twitter. 667 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:36,559 There was a lot of people commenting or commenting about West that people who 668 00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:39,280 posted on like the challenge subredit from like Instagram stories and stuff like that. 669 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,079 A lot of people on both sides of the West argument was saying that he 670 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:49,960 is a nice guy and people should give another chance, versus he's an asshole 671 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,800 and he's kind of weep reaping what he sewed. Here seems people are taking 672 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,800 sides. West continues to mope and say he's done with the challenge. Yeah, 673 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,639 I saw that, And you know, like they was saying that, 674 00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,639 like Dimond said, West is not a nice guy, because I feel like 675 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,760 it has nothing to do with how nice he has. It just has to 676 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,480 do with like how good of a reputation he has on the show. Yeah, 677 00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,719 I think that's what I see with it too, because I have no 678 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,800 doubt Wes is a good a good human being. And so like Shane Landrum 679 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,760 posted a thing that I guess, uh, somebody at a bar, like 680 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,400 Wes and Shane were out at a bar and somebody started beating up Shane for 681 00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:29,760 just being a gay guy. And West ended up beating the ship out of 682 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,559 the guy that was hitting Shane. Good. Yeah, good. And it's 683 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:38,320 like it's like, I'm sure that happened and I and I respects a lot, 684 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,119 and that's a great thing for West to have done for a friend. 685 00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,920 And but what if I played this game with him? I also wouldn't trust 686 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,239 him in the game. Like it's a it's a different argument to me. 687 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,039 It's like, you can be you can be both. You can be a 688 00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:57,079 good dude and a and a snaky player. Okay, says Laurel. So 689 00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,559 she hates West and that he's a punk. Well, if she did, 690 00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:02,920 she must have deleted it, because I'm checking both her posts and her replies. 691 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,519 I'm not seeing anything about that, but their stories. Yeah, they 692 00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:12,400 brought up when he poured soda on Kara. Yeah, he needs to go 693 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,960 on record and apologize for his some sort of former ship if he wants to 694 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,159 be taken seriously and not yall, woe is me. Yeah, he wants 695 00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,079 to be taken seriously as a nice guy and all that. Like, I'm 696 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,119 sure in his real life he is a pleasant person to be around and he's 697 00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:29,159 just as much of an asshole as all the rest of us are. But 698 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:36,400 on TV he has he has portrayed himself as as an asshole as many of 699 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,079 them have. Yeah, and yeah, I mean you can't try and pull 700 00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,880 this like, oh, I'm a nice guy, I'm so sweet and so 701 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:47,960 I deserve a chance playing this game. You know, fairly in the stuff 702 00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,480 like, dude, you've been a dick a lot. Yeah, I don't 703 00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,360 know, And all you can do to make amends is stop being a dick 704 00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:00,159 and just take those punches and roll with them when people treat you like he 705 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,840 used to be an asshole because you did. I also do find a little 706 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,960 bit funny that Laurel called him out for like being mean Tokara, since that 707 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,840 happened on a season of Rivals where they were partners. Because Laurel bullied Carra 708 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,320 this season before. Yeah, and we saw laure was also a dick. 709 00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:22,280 Yeah, was was she bullied the hell out of Bigge Oh my god some 710 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,599 of the ship that she said to him, Yeah, and to Paula about 711 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:29,599 her eating disorder and shit like that. Like Laurels also a bit like these 712 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,880 people are not good people. For the most they're not, which is why 713 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:37,480 we watched the ship. Yeah, exactly, cases Paula deserved it. I 714 00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:42,320 still think that was a low blow. Paula deserved. Paula deserves something. 715 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,039 But there's a little there's some lines that shouldn't be crossed, that's all. 716 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,159 Yeah, But was wasn't this when she said a bunch of ship to Carl, 717 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,000 like wasn't this during the fight, And Laurel's like kind of like, 718 00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:53,599 well, if you're gonna dish it out, then why we do this and 719 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,719 just said a bunch of shit. Yeah, but there's there there's still us 720 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,320 to be lines. Man, there's gotta be lines. It doesn't I don't 721 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,480 know. Case says, no lines, all right, no lines justified. 722 00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:14,599 Emily says Paul was also assaulted well drunk by Evan and Kenny. Right, 723 00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:21,880 that was that was Tanya? Yeah, yeah, do we want to get 724 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,320 to this article? Then I find yes, Yes, I want to know 725 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:31,199 this article says so in relation to I was talking about if the Dusty West 726 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:37,079 thing was rigged and how we've commented on. You know, there's been other 727 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:42,440 stuff that's kind of questionable over the years. Someone on Instagram, I don't 728 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,400 remember who started it. It's not the important part, uh started like, 729 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,039 hey, that was totally rigged. What else? Do you think? It's 730 00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:52,519 some other things that are rigged, like you know, put your ones below 731 00:50:52,639 --> 00:51:00,320 or whatever. People started calling out ones again, not important. Hayley. 732 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,239 If we remember Kayley, she had all of her ship thrown over the balcony. 733 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,440 I remember she chimed in and said the challenge is rigged for viewers entertainment, 734 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,519 plain and simple. It's not the Olympics. It's a TV entertaining show. 735 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:16,119 I've seen the rigging myself. That's when you realize does doesn't matter how 736 00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:20,199 hard you train. If it doesn't fit the storyline, it doesn't matter. 737 00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,719 And then apparently James Wallington from Amazing Race, I think he was on one 738 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:31,280 season, like last USA season, I believe said responded with this and then 739 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:39,920 two clap emojis. I So, I mean not saying they're not correct, 740 00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:49,920 but Kayley was not the greatest player at this game, so I take what 741 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,280 she has to say with a massive grain of salt. And yeah, the 742 00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:58,719 Amazing Race guy was on for a season, so I really don't care what 743 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,599 he has to say. Like I want to hear from players who have been 744 00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:07,760 playing this game for many, many, many years. Yeah, who I 745 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,960 kind of trust a little bit more. Yeah, they're not gonna say anything 746 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,360 until they're totally done with the show though, you know, because you gotta 747 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,400 believe once you start talking to shit like that, you're not gonna go back 748 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,519 on the show. Yeah, but I mean there are plenty of players out 749 00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:21,679 there who are done with the show that could chime in on this kind of 750 00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:24,320 thing. Yeah, that's the thing is, yeah, like if if there 751 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,960 was actual rigging, like it would not have been kept a secret for you 752 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,679 know, twenty three years, that would it would have come out by now 753 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,599 someone would open but didn't. Didn't Car and Polly go on the record and 754 00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,039 say, total, man, this is rigged for bananas and that's why Carr 755 00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:42,480 got putting a time out from the challenge. I mean they did say that, 756 00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:45,199 but I also think that was just like them being haters and like, 757 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:51,440 yeah, yeah, because they were talking against bananas. No, I thought 758 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,280 that was just them being haters too. I didn't feel like it was just 759 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,840 because they don't like bananas. Well then you gotta pick well, guys, 760 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,039 if you're saying, well, they need some vets to come out and say 761 00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:00,599 it's rigged, and then them it's like, well, yeah, but they 762 00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:05,679 did. They weren't really right about it, all right, whatever you get 763 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,719 to say. Yeah, because there was a big controversy like oh, they 764 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,800 changed the final last season from like one winner to two, just how bananas 765 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,400 could win. You and Bananas say on this podcast like the first of the 766 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,599 season, like do you really think that entire cast there that they could change 767 00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,920 the rules at the last minute and everyone would just like co sign it and 768 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:29,199 go along with it like someone would have. I mean, and so I'm 769 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,639 going to contradict myself again I realized this. I guess I do kind of 770 00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:36,719 have to side with car and Polly a little bit more because there was also 771 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,480 all the evidence of Johnny popping adderall in the season, that he stole Sarah's 772 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,559 money, which should have not been a legal thing to do during the middle 773 00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:51,119 of it of a challenge that you're up all night and all that sort of 774 00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:53,719 thing. So I mean, I guess I do kind of have to side 775 00:53:53,719 --> 00:54:02,400 with them and think about how he has They have definitely played the game in 776 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,519 his favor more than a few times. Yeah, so we'll never know. 777 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,440 The world will never know. Ye But Okay, that's what I'm not saying. 778 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,960 Bananas doesn't gonna say they change it. But the fact that there's what 779 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:20,599 like twenty one other people on that season, including Jenny who won, and 780 00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:23,760 like, if they changed it last second from one winner two, everyone in 781 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,440 the cast is gonna like keep that the world's biggest secret and like no one's 782 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:36,079 gonna spell the beans on it like, I don't know would speak up and 783 00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,920 be like, yes, they changed it, you know, from one winner 784 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:46,519 to two last minute so Johnny could win. Yeah, I don't know I 785 00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:52,360 would, Discott says, I'm sure there have been so many people from production 786 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,840 that have come and gone that someone would have spoken up by now. Yeah, 787 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,880 but I think they're sure. They probably signed a ship ton of ndia's 788 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:06,119 you. Yeah, do you know that when it comes to production, a 789 00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:10,679 lot of times they do have to sign india's specifically around the storyline of the 790 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,199 shows. Yeah, they do that in a lot of reality show, especially 791 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:22,840 a lot of the more doc you follow type series like Housewives and all that 792 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,519 sort of thing. They sign indias that are specifically around the storyline of that 793 00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,280 season and the sort of the storyline of that show. So there's a good 794 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:37,039 chance that that's something that they have to do for this as well. Yeah, 795 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:38,760 Risa, and I remember Corey did an interview and said they don't test 796 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:45,360 for performance drugs. It is super clear that that they're on steroids most most 797 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,760 of the men. It's pretty have been for years. Yeah, if you 798 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,800 know what to look for, it's pretty clear. Johnny's got the steroid belly 799 00:55:53,920 --> 00:56:00,559 sorry, sorry, Zachie Banana's over there. Johnny's totally a steroid us yeah, 800 00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:06,679 very barrel chested, yeah, and barrel stomached. Yep. Well, 801 00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,360 hey, if they're not getting test for everyone else is doing it, Like 802 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,039 I support Johnny doing it. Yeah, I truly don't care. I wish 803 00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:17,639 they would all be completely roided freaks on this show. Just that's like major, 804 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,400 like most Yeah, just just get him as built up as you can. 805 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,480 Who cares. I have no concern for their health. I don't know 806 00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,599 if when he came back, k but like, what's his first three seasons 807 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:35,239 he had more steroid than him than the entire like, oh my god, 808 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:44,599 yeah him, Kenny, was it Tyreese or tyree st all of them, 809 00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:46,119 like, yeah, you look back out of years ago, Brad, all 810 00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:51,159 of them, they were Brad's come back. For sure. He was roided 811 00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:53,559 out. Tony even talks about it on the show like kind of in vague 812 00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:57,800 speech, but you can hear, you can tell what he's saying. Yeah, 813 00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:02,159 yep, Scott brings up this else get the all steroid Olympics. I 814 00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:07,159 don't remember that, but yes, somebody goes to like do a deadlift his 815 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,880 arms just he's trying to lift so much because he's all roided up. Yeah. 816 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,000 I wouldn't see a bizarre shit like that. Yeah, more steroids. 817 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:22,239 Yep. All right, guys, I need to I need to, but 818 00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:27,280 I don't want to. I don't want to g TFO without ending this. 819 00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:37,159 So the you know, we'll be here everybody. Uh, I don't know 820 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,760 how do we usually end this? Clearly caught off guard, thanks a lot, 821 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:45,360 card, Sorry, jeez, we done the show. We'll be all 822 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,719 right, well, thanks for listening, everybody as usually and Brian Zach Flash, 823 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:57,639 Dusty Bananas, Carl and the other ct it is. Josh says Tiffany, 824 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,480 I take great offense to that. Sharlotte shall picking up for a second 825 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:13,159 shotte Shoe, I shall be We'll be right back only