WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:05.719 Steve Rivera and Jay gn Salles. They have their eye on the ball on 2 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:11.439 two Sons Sports stage, Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean I 3 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:15.279 heard radio Whip they welcome back to the ball, you know, Fox Sports 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:20.199 fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, he's Jay. Now we have Jason wickbreaking news 5 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:27.320 on the ball, breaking news, very generation Arizona walldcat stand out and field 6 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:33.880 her Mason White earned her spot on the Baseball Freshman All American roster. Bason 7 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:39.560 White? Yeah, to which one position did stand out? Isn't it from 8 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:43.039 He's the local kid, isn't he? Yeah? Where do you cdeo? 9 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:46.439 I'm sure exactly. He's two's on Native though. Yeah, yeah, I 10 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:49.280 think I remember he hit that ball. He hit that bomb in the in 11 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.679 the tournament, homer in the tournament. Yeah, so now freshman, you 12 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:56.000 know, I don't think you know, as you look back in the season, 13 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.320 the baseball team was pretty good. They were pretty good except that they 14 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.399 couldn't pitch. Couldn't and something happened to the pitch. Because that's some They 15 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.120 had a couple of good pitchers coming into this year that just didn't pitch well, 16 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.560 you know, t J. Nichols and uh um, I can't remember 17 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:15.040 the other guy, but you know they just whatever, whatever they lost, 18 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:21.000 they lost. Yeah, all right. Arizona baseball stand out first baseman Akiko 19 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:26.560 Romero has earned a spot on the Collegiate Baseball Second Team All American rostern He 20 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.439 was another two soon kid. He was good. He was good. Another 21 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.319 two soon kid. Yeah. I love that these guys that aren't are playing 22 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.519 baseball in Arizona. Does it just seem like, I know they're back in 23 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:38.640 the old break back in the day that you know, they're just weren't a 24 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.280 lot of two sound kids that were getting a chance to play for Arizona, 25 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:47.359 and these guys are, which is great. Chipell recognizes their talent here. 26 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:53.400 Today was the first day for the nca Double A Outdoory Championships of the Arizona 27 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:57.599 Track and field team. Um Jordan guys. Actually, on his first attempt 28 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.519 of the hammer throw he actually broke a screw record with a heave of seventy 29 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:06.920 five point ninety seven meters um That moves him up to twelfth all time in 30 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:12.319 NCABLE history. And he also finished third place at the hammer thrower today. 31 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.560 Yeah. Yeah, he's the one that kind of enlightened us with the n 32 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:22.120 il right, yeah, the most decorate well him and the Schnell. This 33 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.360 is not about them, there was. I was listening to an interesting conversation 34 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.560 today and we'll get I'll talk about it because I do. It's some na 35 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.639 l stuff that um, I hadn't heard before, with some really good stuff 36 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:36.400 and including some interesting comments by Trent Dilfer, who's not coaching at UAB. 37 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.599 But I want to make a point of talking about that at some point today. 38 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:42.520 Okay, So the guy White is from South Point, Second based one 39 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.560 of our listeners. All right, okay, cool um. Free agent wide 40 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:51.560 receiver DeAndre Hopkins. It's later to fly to Nashville on Sunday for a visible 41 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.960 the Titans. Right. No, he'll land somewhere. He's a talent, 42 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:00.719 he just he just never materialized it there in Arizona, don't baseball? Right? 43 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:05.960 Cheez Davis? Oh, yes, Davis transferring. He's he's announced that 44 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.560 he's leaving and jumping into the Major League Baseball Draft. Dude's gonna make some 45 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.800 money. He's gonna be a first round pick. Um. You know again, 46 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.759 none of the guys you know hit well in the NC Double A Tournament. 47 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:20.280 But he is really the dude. You know, you watch enough baseball 48 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.319 we all have, and you can see dudes. And I'm gonna use one 49 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.719 of your phrases, even though I hate, I'll hate it. The dude 50 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.000 looks like a baseball player, you know, because you're you're a guy off 51 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:31.319 the bus. Guy looks like getting then he can't play with the crap. 52 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.719 But this dude looks like you play it, and he hits the crap out. 53 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.800 He can play. Did you the homer that he hit? Uh? 54 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:44.120 Yeah, the first type of yeah, that that it went over the it 55 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:50.319 went out of the building and the uh the the the um they playing the 56 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:54.719 first round Tu they challenged it and they couldn't. You couldn't see where the 57 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.639 ball, couldn't find it. Yeah, you couldn't see the ball game down. 58 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:00.520 It was hit so far. He had a lot of opportunities because minimum 59 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.439 base. They had he come through with him and Kiko had come through, 60 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.879 they would have won that game. They'd had some chances. They had some 61 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.280 chances. Um. To follow up on the Hopkins news, how do you 62 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.480 guys feel about him being let let go and the team accepting the dead cab 63 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:19.000 money that they just like they suck on, they suck. The Cardinals were 64 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.399 just bad. I mean, come on, they're managed poorly, coach, 65 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.600 they don't have We're talking about this all the time and you grew up. 66 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.879 And who's had the worst luck or less whatever, the Cardinals, the Suns, 67 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.319 or the diamond Backs, at least the diamond Backs. So it's all 68 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:41.439 kind of like, okay, what are you doing here? Yea? Um 69 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.600 and then more I guess um Arizona Sports News Phoenix Suns have waves Chris Paul 70 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:51.040 and he's currently weighing his options. Um, this possibility he could have come 71 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:55.360 back with the Suns on a minimum vet contract, but he could be also 72 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.720 assigning trade. Um. You know, so just so, Jay, So 73 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.079 you you told me, you told us about an hour ago when this was 74 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.160 happening, right, And I think, okay, well that's too bad, 75 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:08.160 you know whatever. And they're gonna pay him fifteen millions it was thirty Oh 76 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.240 never mind, never mind? How you feel sorry for a guy who's gonna 77 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:15.360 get fifty million to go away? To go away? I guess what we'll 78 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:17.319 play somewhere else? Yeah, did you ever did you ever watch a scene 79 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:24.519 and um, that movie Moneyball where where it's it's um, the guy who's 80 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:30.600 playing David Justice is hitting in the batting cage and and you know, um 81 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.040 Billy Bean goes in there to tell him about it. Look, we need 82 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.600 you to be a leader on this team. And you know, he goes 83 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:39.360 into this stuff and and he says something like, you're you're paying me, 84 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:43.480 you know, to you know, you know, you're paying me to get 85 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:46.519 you know, to get base hits and hit home runs. He says, 86 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.079 no, you're wrong. The New York Yankees thought so much of you. 87 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:54.120 They're paying you to play for us and do that. So I'm asking you 88 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.040 to do right. And then it'll kind of put him in his place. 89 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.959 I'm saying, they thought so much of you that they're paying paying you to 90 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.920 play for us. You know. So so you saw I don't saw news 91 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:08.399 Chris Paul's daughter, Yeah, you saw that. So that so she's going 92 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.519 to school and she's being bullied. She's being bullied. Well, your son's 93 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.519 your dad's never gonna win a title. I would have just told her, 94 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.560 your your dad probably doesn't try what my dad drive. You probably don't live 95 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:23.439 how I live exactly. Shut up, Yeah, get out of here. 96 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.519 Um Josh Allen becomes the first Bills player ever to be featured on the on 97 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.759 Madden twenty four cover. Oh he's on the cover. Yeah, I hadn't 98 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.360 heard that. It's awesome for him. It doesn't the Madden cover guy horrible 99 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:45.519 seasons or sports the Sports Illustrated, the Sports illis cheer. But I will 100 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.399 tell you that a picture named Alex Manoa, who went into the season as 101 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:55.439 a cy young candidate and I drafted him. Tell me that sent to the 102 00:06:55.439 --> 00:07:04.879 miners yesterday, talking about what strikes again? He got sent to the He 103 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.399 got sent to the miner. It's real. I mean, it's real. 104 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:15.000 He pitched on his last appearance. I think on Monday, he pitched a 105 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.560 third of an inning, seven hits, six earned runs, and then they 106 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:25.879 sent him to the miners. You need to stop, just stop. Um. 107 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.079 Saudi Arabia could potentially acquire enough an NFL team in the future. I'm 108 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:34.319 after talking to a couple and a fellow team presidents. Reporter Albert Breer speculates 109 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:38.800 it's not out of the line to consider of the idea that the saudis because 110 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.079 I'll buy an NFL team down the line, because because yeah, there was 111 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.920 there was a lot of discussion of that in the context of the of the 112 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.319 of the this PJA Tour decision is that you know, will will the Saudis 113 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:56.920 get into buying an American Major League team. Some people are saying it would 114 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:01.720 be more likely to happen in the NBA than the NFL because the NFL is 115 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:03.000 such a hard nut to crack. His for us, stuff like that goes 116 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.959 to get the good boys, you know where you got, you know, 117 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.240 guys like who are a little off beat, like Mark Cuban and people like 118 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.879 that. That it would probably be easier and more likely. Yeah, societies 119 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:22.360 would get into American pro sports by buying an NBA team. Okay, leon 120 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.319 Old Messi has confirmed he is joining inter Miami, which is part of MLS. 121 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.560 Um he for his contract. His contract hasn't been um exactly laid out, 122 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.799 but he could earn a share of Apple's MLS season past revenue and get 123 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.120 a cut off the adida's profits. Outside his arrival, he'll also become a 124 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.279 part owner of the team as well. Somebody said it'd be like two hundred 125 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.480 million dollars. The guys like, what is he thirty eight years old? 126 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.279 Yeah, he's close to forty years old. If not already, Duc tells 127 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.279 crazy, the people on the pitch are yeah, to come in here and 128 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.639 play and and you know, finish out, you know, finished out his 129 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.879 career. Look, he's still a good player, but he's not He's not 130 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.919 Lionel Messi of five years ago or ten years ago, who was just ungodly. 131 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.399 But you know, hey he's a name. He's still got that name 132 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:09.639 and he attracts that. Yeah. Yeah, that's what breaking I have. 133 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.200 All Right, Um, let me see what I had. A couple of 134 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:18.159 things. Uh, we got Chase Davis stuff. Well again going back, 135 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.120 you know, going back to the Bobby Robins stuff. Um. One of 136 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.399 the comments, Well, first of all, you had John Kenzano who said, 137 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.200 who said, uh that over the last few months that this grant of 138 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.480 rights deal has been ready to go and then they need to sign it. 139 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:37.279 Bobby Robin saying, I haven't heard that there's a deal like that. Um, 140 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.399 but he's still confident that a deal is going to get done. Um. 141 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:45.080 He says that there's he sees, you know, forecasting projections that say 142 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:50.559 that the Pact twelve does have the value the necessary value to uh to get 143 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.879 a deal done. That that that the schools would be happy with UM and 144 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.720 but then Robbins also said that, you know, would you change conferences and 145 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.240 he said, depends on what the finance ancial deal is. Yeah, And 146 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:01.960 at the end of the day, that's what they're doing. That's why this 147 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.919 is all said. He has said that all along, So that's not that's 148 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.840 not that's not a shocker that he would he would say that that's the world 149 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.200 we live in and all honesty. We talked about the n I L and 150 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.639 I was with people up and if obviously sat Albuquerque over the week weekend. 151 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.440 We talked about that. It's it's the uh, it's the the name of 152 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.279 the game is the money. So if you're gonna have a bet, if 153 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.960 you have a better deal somewhere, you're gonna jump at it, right, 154 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.159 And that's in players, that's well, and that's the take jobs, right, 155 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.240 that's the take that that that Trent Delfer came out with. And Delfer 156 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.799 was a you know, he was a Super Bowl quarterback, he was guy 157 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:43.159 commentator, he's a head coach at UEB. It's interesting what he said and 158 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.879 I know and I hadn't thought of this, but it sounds pretty true because 159 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.879 he was asked basically, how do you compete in the in the n I 160 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:58.639 l UH framework, you know, with Alabama Georgia if they you know, 161 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.399 they're rescuing him this there him this, like, like, you know, 162 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.639 where are you going to get the nil money from UAB at UAB to keep 163 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.559 your players from going to places like that? He said, We're not. 164 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:11.759 He said, we're not gonna We can't compete because I said, we have 165 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.480 to come to grips with the fact that, you know, if if one 166 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.720 of our players wants to go or has got good enough, if we developed 167 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.639 them well enough that an Alabama or a George or somebody comes calling, there's 168 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.600 nothing we can do about it, almost like and he was basically saying the 169 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:35.399 UABS and the South Floridas and maybe even the Arizonas our our minor league franchises 170 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:41.120 for the higher level schools for then minor league franchises for the NFL with without 171 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.200 question and I totally agree. In fact, that was one of our conversations 172 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:48.440 with my friend and I who was a sports editor in New Mexico and in 173 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:54.039 Colorado and now in managing editor somewhere, and I'm using that as a context. 174 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.600 He said, they're all organ doners. If if you're if you're at 175 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.960 UAB and you play, well, guess what, You're not staying there. 176 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:07.039 You're gonna go to the next limbl because Alabama needs a limb or a leg. 177 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.120 You're that guy. You're that guy. And do you blame you if 178 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:13.879 you? Hell know and see? And that's and that's what apparently what Delford 179 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.519 said was that, look, why would I want I've taken this kid in 180 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.720 onto my team, their parents trusted me with him. I brought him here 181 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.480 to develop him, and I've done that, and I've done that. I've 182 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:31.240 done my job as far as that goes. Why would I tell him don't 183 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:33.320 take the money? Sure? No, of course. Now I'll ask him, 184 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:39.039 he said, I'll ask him, do you want to go to Mississippi 185 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.879 and be kind of another guy? Or do you want to stay here and 186 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.679 be the guy? I'll tell you right now, I'll give you. I'll 187 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.240 give you the answer. You could be jet fished right right now, depending 188 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:56.679 on what the money is. Uh stringer string string who left to USC singer? 189 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.360 Singer singer, I'm sorry, do you sing same dude? You're talking 190 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:03.759 about the same dude, that guy? That guy? Yeah, No, 191 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.159 and and and that, and that's what basically said, I'm not gonna tell 192 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.759 that guy, I can give you twenty five thousand dollars, don't don't take 193 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.759 the four hundred thousand dollars that Alabama's offering you. I'm not gonna tell him 194 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.480 that. I'm just gonna we as And he's basically, we as a group 195 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.600 of five coaches have to understand that that's our place in the higher archies, 196 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.200 and if we fight it, we're gonna lose. I guarantee you that if 197 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.120 Trent Dilford does really well there, what's he gonna do. Yeah, he'll 198 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.879 take the job exactly somewhere else. Yeah, And he said, look, 199 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:39.080 we gotta get guys, and maybe one of our recruiting pitches becomes we'll get 200 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:46.360 you ready for the sec which is perfectly we'll cut you up right, right, 201 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.519 I mean, because right, I mean Arizona fed three guys to USC. 202 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.600 You know, Arizona is one of those schools maybe on a higher level 203 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.320 than UAB, but still one of those schools that can is gonna feed players 204 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:01.879 into Arizona, Ohio statement getting whatever the rest is up to you. Look, 205 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.039 softball did it, they did it. Yeah, the girls who la 206 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.679 and you know, and Janelle Mionio went from a from a leadoff hitter to 207 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.919 a nine hit her. Well, guess what she's probably got, you know, 208 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.320 fifty thousand or one hundred thousand dollars more than she was getting here, 209 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.360 correct, if she was getting if she was getting anything here at all. 210 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.159 Right, So that's just that's just what we're dealing with. Okay, it's 211 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.039 called the world it is. Well, it's not, it's not. It's 212 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.679 not any different than anywhere else. Job. If you get a better job, 213 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:33.679 I guess what you're doing two weeks noticing wherever you work there's somebody there 214 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.519 making more money than unless you're the CEO. Sure right, all right, 215 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.440 let's take our breakway to come back Michelle Gardner. We'll talk to her about 216 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:46.000 what's going on up at ASU in all this madness of realignment and I L 217 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.600 transfportal all that kind of stuff. Would just like to get a perspective from 218 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.320 her, and just talking about the PAC twelve with her as well. So 219 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.600 we'll be right back with Michelle Gardner. 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That's Showtime Cards, Dreamy Live, I Mean My Heart 260 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.119 Radio Act. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez 261 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.240 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to Win on the Ball 262 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:15.920 here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, Ja Gazo Now one of 263 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.640 the phone we have Michelle Gardner all things Arizona State for the Arizona Republic. 264 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:23.079 How are you, Michelle. I'm doing just dandy. How are you guys? 265 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.920 We're fine. We wanted to pick your brand about what's going on at 266 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:32.240 ASU and all this PAC twelve stuff, twelve stuff. What are you hearing? 267 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.400 I still think my hunch on the PAC twelve is I still think the 268 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:42.200 PAC twelve ends up sticking together. That's my hunch. Ten to PA PAC 269 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.920 ten because well, I think I think eventually they're going to add a couple 270 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.200 of schools. I think San Diego Stayed and SMU were the ones that we've 271 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.519 all heard. Um Ryanderson told me that those make the most sense, So 272 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:02.559 that's my sense. I think the Big twelve in the Commissioner there are really 273 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.759 good at throwing crap out there to get a rise out of people, and 274 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.000 throwing stuff out there to sit their own narrative. That's my take they're doing. 275 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.079 They're doing a good job. Well, the latest crap or are the 276 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:18.359 latest rise they've gotten is all the discussion and the buzz that you're hearing about 277 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:25.640 Colorado and Arizona winding up in the PAC twelve in the Big Twelve, which 278 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:30.200 would require a split between Arizona and Arizona stake, which I, as a 279 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.759 native of Tucson and a native of Arizona, have thought all along that that 280 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:41.519 would never happen, although with how much we're hearing about it that maybe it's 281 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:45.440 not so out of the question anything you're hearing up there about whether or not 282 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:51.039 these two schools could split. I just don't think it makes sense for them 283 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:55.240 to split. To me, it makes no sense for that to happen. 284 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.759 Obviously, Arizona's got the great basketball program, and to be in the Big 285 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.599 twe would be very nice for that sport, But what about all the other 286 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.799 sports. I mean, this should not be driven by a sport, so 287 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.920 I would hate to see that happen. I think it's bad enough that USC 288 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.960 and UCLA are departing. I don't think that's going to go as well as 289 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:19.119 they think it's going to go. I just can't wait till you know they've 290 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.400 got to go to Rutgers for a swim meet in December or some stupid thing 291 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:26.480 like that. I mean, I just I don't see how that's the best 292 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.720 for the student athletes. And I think that I just think that that's going 293 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:37.400 to go all wrong myself. So I would not like to see Arizona Arizona 294 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:40.200 State split. I just can't even imagine that. Okay, Michel, So 295 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:41.799 how long I'm asking you this question for a reason? How long have you 296 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:48.000 covered an issue sports up there? I got here in September of twenty and 297 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:51.200 eighteen, Okay, So I asked for a reason. So I asked Jay, 298 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:53.720 that's assume for a second they do split. They do split, So 299 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.160 in a year or two, we write this story of who had it better 300 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:02.839 in the PAC ten PAC twelve? Go, who do you think overall when 301 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:07.079 you write that story, who had a better a Shoe sports or you obaid 302 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.519 sports. You mean, if they stay in the PAC twelve, if they 303 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.680 disintegrate, they go there in separate ways. Oh, if they go I 304 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:22.839 can't play that game. It's a hard game, it is. And I 305 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.480 think, you know what again, I think it depends on what sport you're 306 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.480 talking about. You've got so many different dynamics at work there, and obviously 307 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.599 it's more driven by the money sports than the other sports. But I just 308 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.880 don't see. I think one of the nice things about the PAC twelve is 309 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:42.079 I think, and at least selfishly, from the media standpoint, we've got 310 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:47.599 it pretty good. Other than trying to get to Pullman, Washington. The 311 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:51.000 trips are pretty easy. You're going into that. Their trips aren't long, 312 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:56.799 you're not affected by weather too terribly often. I mean, if you go 313 00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:59.319 to the Big Twelve and you've got to get to Waco, Texas, the 314 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.720 middle of the nore Kansas, I mean, that's just I talked to a 315 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.559 friend of mine that used to cover Oklahoma State and she said, traveling in 316 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:11.440 that conference to cover the teams as a bitch. Yeah no, And you 317 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.920 know, we actually it's talked about that a little bit because you know, 318 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:17.680 I've got I'm the fan in the room, right, So I've got a 319 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.319 group of friends. We like to go to the u of A. I 320 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.400 mean to the UCLA and usc football games wherever Arizona's playing, you know, 321 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:26.720 every year and we go to one of those games, and I just don't 322 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:32.200 see because it's right, it's drivable, the you know, the the you 323 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.519 know, the the atmosphere is there. You know, the Rose Bowl and 324 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.680 the LA Coliseum are really cool to go to go see a football game, 325 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:40.599 although they sit the U of a fans in the worst places, but Arizona 326 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:44.240 doesn't do. But I think, I think myself, Okay, what what 327 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.279 road trips am I going to take if Arizona's in the Big twelve outside of 328 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.680 Denver and going to a Colorado game if they're if they're one of the teams 329 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.119 in there. I don't see myself going anywhere, you know, I don't 330 00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:56.960 see myself, as you said, going to Wake or when you get there, 331 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:03.400 right Waco, Lubbock, Uh, you know, still Water, Uh, 332 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:06.839 you know, Aims, you know all those places you Manhattan can't. 333 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.079 I just don't see us going to any of those, and that really diminishes 334 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:18.119 our fun in you know, following Arizona sports. That's my point. Yeah, 335 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.640 that's my point. Yeah. Yeah. But so, I mean, 336 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:26.039 is there is your sense that I know Arizona wants to stay in the pack 337 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:30.519 in the Pac twelve, but they wouldn't hesitate to leave if the deal was 338 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.000 better what they is used position on that? I mean, are they staying 339 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:37.559 no matter what or what are their options? Well, I tell you what. 340 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.880 In talking to Ray Anderson, I mean I talked to him last week 341 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.839 for a series of stories I did um and a series of stories ran a 342 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.960 couple of weeks ago. He says he's not in the least bit interested in 343 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:52.680 going anywhere else out of the Pack twelve. Yeah, now, maybe I 344 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.599 could be a guy with his head in the sand, because I mean we 345 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.680 know that they lagged behind when it Kim came to Nil and some of the 346 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.759 other topics or whatever. But he said he's got no interest whatsoever in leaving 347 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.000 the PAC twelve. That's what he said. Yeah. Now maybe Crowe's got 348 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.440 a different idea, but I would I would have to think that your athletic 349 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.240 director has a pulse on that and has a gateway to the president. And 350 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.200 he says he's in no way, shape or form interested in leaving the pack. 351 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.759 Crow, I think he's more loyal to the Pack than anybody. Yeah, 352 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.720 given what his loyalties have been. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. But Ray 353 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:33.200 told me he is not talking to anybody. Okay, interesting, that's that's 354 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.519 what he told me. Maybe behind the scenes there might be some things going 355 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.000 on, because maybe you're always going to throw or in the ocean just to 356 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.640 see. But he makes it sound like he's not like the least been interested 357 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.599 in going anywhere else. Is there any angst up there? Over the TV 358 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.680 deal and how long this is taking. Well, I actually asked him about 359 00:24:52.720 --> 00:25:00.119 that and he said that normally, He said that normally the window is is 360 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.920 about a year before your contract is up that you have a deal, make 361 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.759 a deal or whatever. So he said when they started negotiating, they actually 362 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:12.000 did so quite a bit earlier than normally would be because you know, they've 363 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.920 got another year to go on this deal. He said that he thinks that 364 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:21.480 something will be announced in like maybe July or August, like late this summer. 365 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.359 So he said everybody kind of got in. There was some ankst about 366 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:33.200 people just because they started negotiating so soon and something wasn't announced soon. He 367 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.160 also said some of the things that have happened were beyond their control, whether 368 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.240 it's layoffs at this place or layoffs at Google or wherever. And now you 369 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.519 don't want to announce this million dollar TV deal when companies or land people off, 370 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:51.000 And he said, then you had administrative changes that like didn't he and 371 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:55.519 wherever. So now you've got administrative changes and that delays thing. So he 372 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:00.799 said there were those factors too that have delayed the macenes that were out of 373 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.960 their control. Yeah, well, I you know, again, and I 374 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.599 keep hearing, Well, there's a lot of stuff being said. Somebody said 375 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.480 believe about a third of it. And you know, because you just and 376 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.119 all this stuff that's come on the last couple of days. Was there a 377 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.519 grant of rights deal done or not? You have all these you know, 378 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.799 all these media guys saying there was Robbie Robbins today saying there's not. I 379 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:30.319 haven't heard of anything. So we just don't know anything doing No, it 380 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.960 depends on who's saying it on what day. And yeah, so so you 381 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.880 just covered to finish a school year, football, basketball, all that stuff. 382 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.920 Upon a further review, I guess the football how did the football team 383 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.799 look in the spring, and what's the future looking like come August September. 384 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.759 Well, I think Delighan is certainly very interesting, Charismatic, energetic, all 385 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:57.119 those words apply. And I think you all know up there that there were 386 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:03.359 or down there. But the worst thing you can have is fan apathy. 387 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.559 And you've had the fan apathy laid in the Kevin Sumblin era and you got 388 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.880 jet Fish in there and he jumps started energized people. And I think Gillingham 389 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:17.000 has kind of had the same effect here. You know, you laid in 390 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.799 the Hermit era, you know, you had apathy when people just were ready 391 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.519 to be done with them, and you have they're ready to be done with 392 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.240 Ray Anderson too, but they're stuck because he's got a few years left on 393 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.720 his contract. But I think when you bring a Dillingham in, you bring 394 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:34.200 that energetic You change the narrative around the football program. And you've got a 395 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:40.000 guy that is from here, he wants to be here. So I think, 396 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.160 will you bring in a coach from outside and they don't know the landscape 397 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.720 of you know, Arizona football and Arizona State football, and they don't know 398 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.680 the landscape, You've got to feel your way through that. So it's two 399 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.200 or three years, you know, into your tenure before you kind of have 400 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.640 that nown. And Dillingham has got that down. And the fact that the 401 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.119 majority of his coaching staff have ties here, whether they're collegiately or high school 402 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.839 ranks, So he's got a lot of ties here. His coaches have a 403 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.559 lot of ties here. So I think that was the higher that the alumni 404 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.559 wanted, and I think it was the best one that they could make given 405 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.759 the situation. It sounds like you're just talking about Jed Fish. Yeah, 406 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:23.920 seriously, they are exactly are they not the same situation? I think the 407 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:29.119 only difference is that Jed doesn't have any ties to Tucson or I literally stop 408 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.359 that I know of, whereas villing him did. But as far as coming 409 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.319 in a time that was crucial to the football program where you had to get 410 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.359 rid of the apathy and get people on board, I think it is pretty 411 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.440 much the same situation. Were you able to get any sense from spring balls 412 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:51.039 to what this team might look like going forward, you know what kind of 413 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.960 what kind of a team are they going to be? Well, I think 414 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:59.519 it's going to be interesting because they've got so many new players, So how 415 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.279 well they gael, how well they come together, that's the big factor. 416 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.519 I think the strong point of the team is going to be the receiving corps. 417 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.559 I think the offensive line is where there are some question marks. So 418 00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:17.079 and also just so you guys know, my feel is that Bourge will be 419 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:22.599 the starting quarterback. That's my take. I think that Drew Pine was very 420 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.640 underwhelming in the spring. Maybe he looks better in the fall, but for 421 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.000 a guy that started at Notre Dame, I thought he was very underwhelming. 422 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:36.079 I think Jaden Rashida is good, but he's not ready yet, so I 423 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:40.200 don't think he is the guy that's going to be the quarterback coming opening to 424 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.839 come Opening Day, and I think it's going to be Trent. Do you 425 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.799 do you want to preview a little bit the story that you were tamas off 426 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.680 air that you're working on for this weekend. So I am actually working on 427 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.920 a Bobby Hurley story. And I know everybody in Tucson loves to hate Bobby 428 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.000 Hurley, but I mean, he's just a fascinating guy. He comes from 429 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.039 a fascinating family. So I'm writing a story that's going to run on Father's 430 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.079 Day. And actually it was going to be one story and it's now turned 431 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.799 into two. But I talked to Bob Hurley Senior about, you know, 432 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:17.079 coaching at Saint Anthony, coaching at the high school level, about why he 433 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.759 didn't take a college job. And I talked to Bobby and Danny both about 434 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.839 playing for their dad. I talked to Danny what it was like to win 435 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.000 a national championship when you've been in the shadow of the other two. And 436 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.480 I also talked to a little Bobby, Bobby's son who plays on the ASU 437 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:38.200 team, and what's it like to play for dad? And I asked him, 438 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.559 not that I'm going to get the whole thing away, but I asked 439 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.680 him. I asked a little bobby, who's more competitive his father, his 440 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.119 grandfather or his uncle? And he said, it's a three way tie. 441 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.720 Good answer, great answer, Good answer. So kid knows what to say. 442 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.279 So now that you're talking about Hurley, he did a pretty good job 443 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.039 basketball. He's last year probably saved his job, unless his job was not 444 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.000 under the gun. What do you think. I think he did a fantastic 445 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.079 job. I mean, when you looked at the team, I think he 446 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.920 had a group of guys that really liked each other and enjoyed playing together. 447 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.440 And I think he learned a lesson from the Marcus Bagley Josh Christopher year when 448 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.559 he had a lot of guys that were used to be in the guy and 449 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.720 everybody was used to having the offense run through them, and they didn't have 450 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:32.480 the chemistry or you know, the teamwork to match expectations. So I think 451 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.359 they exceeded expectations. I mean, they make a heat free throw here or 452 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:40.440 there, they beat TCU, and who knows what would have happened. So, 453 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:42.880 Um, you know, it's too bad that a now in the age 454 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.599 of the transfer portal in the NIL era, that a lot of the guys 455 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:52.079 on the team that wouldn't would have been back are not. But you can't 456 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.319 Warren Washington supposedly got a six figure deal from Texas Tech. Um, So 457 00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.640 you can't blame guys for going where the money is. But I think he's 458 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:07.559 done a good job replacing the pieces that heed. Yeah, he's kind of 459 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:13.160 learned to recruit the best, not the best players, but the best players 460 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.960 that fit what you want to do right right right. So so is there 461 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.160 anything that in particular that he's got to do this coming year? Uh? 462 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.680 I mean how good do they have to be for for you know, to 463 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.720 keep any kind of pressure off of him, being that he you know, 464 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.440 rallied last year. Well, I don't, I honestly don't think. I 465 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.599 mean, he got a contract extension at the end of the year, so 466 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:42.319 I don't necessarily, I think, necessarily think his job's in jeopardy. Um. 467 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.319 You know, I think the way they rallied and when they were, 468 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.799 the way they pulled together at the end of the year, um and put 469 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.200 in I mean they played with it when you look at the way they played 470 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.440 with their backs to the wall basically the last three weeks of the regular season 471 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.640 and then down the stretch. Um, they just really came together. And 472 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.119 I thought he did a fantastic job getting the most out of those guys, 473 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.759 and he gave it to the Arizona fans at the end, went back and 474 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.400 told them, hey, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, and Arizona facs love 475 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.440 that stuff. Okay, Michelle, I appreciate your time. Fantastic stuff anytime, 476 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.240 great, right, thank you, Michelle Gardner from the Arizona Republic. 477 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.680 Yeah, let's take a break, maybe get some calls, talk about a 478 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:23.599 lot of stuff that we just went through. All right, we'll be right 479 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:28.039 back. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful 480 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.480 for nearly forty years. Now. Take a look back at the Ludolson era. 481 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.880 In my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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This is I'm the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen v 532 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.239 Hey, welcome back to win the baut Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 533 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.159 I'm Steve. He's Jay and our guy Jason our fifteen minutes. Who's gonna 534 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.519 call on? Want to cost these two? Five two, old, four 535 00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.559 one, six, seventy four or forty. We're just coming back from our 536 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:29.480 vacation. That's not to say that we won't have another vacation. It's my 537 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.480 end. We're getting old, Steve. We need more vacation time. I 538 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:37.000 need to sleep from my vacation exactly. Hey, So I thought the most 539 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:42.639 interesting thing that Michelle Gardner said in that last interview was that ASU has a 540 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.639 zero desire to go anywhere anywhere else. Yeah. Yeah, but that's kind 541 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.920 of that's kind of implied in what we're talking about, because you could be 542 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.119 the big dog if if things happened for whatever reason, you know. Yeah, 543 00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.519 and I understand that, I mean again, but that they're they're planning 544 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.480 on sticking with the pactabs long as they can, whereas Robbins has said, 545 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.400 we want to stay, but it's something better comes along, we're going sure, 546 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.440 sure, So go ahead, give us some more information from rub Well 547 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.360 to kind of refresh everybody. Uh uh the universe. The UFA is hosting 548 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.760 a what what they're calling the Future of College Athletics summit up in Washington, 549 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.760 d C. All the media, all the national media has has uh has 550 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.199 descended on that. UM. Bobby Robbins, the UFA president, has been 551 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:32.519 on national radio talk shows or national TV talk shows. He held a press 552 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.719 conference, so he's getting a lot of media run and we are going to 553 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:38.880 try and get him on the show. We're working on that already. But 554 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.320 this uh, this summit is tonight tomorrow in DC. UM. But Pete 555 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.400 Thamil, the writer for ESPN, came out with a full on story from 556 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.199 I think it sounds like he's he covered the press conference but also may have 557 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:59.159 interviewed him. But the major points coming out of this in uh in Famil's 558 00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:04.000 story, one is that the u A wants to stay in the PAC twelve. 559 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.840 Bobby Robin said, there's ten of us right now. I'm hopeful the 560 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.920 deal is going to be good enough to keep us all together. Um, 561 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:15.199 but there's some there's some points about there's some some things about this one. 562 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.679 And it's the thing that we talked to about a minute ago is that, 563 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.440 you know, Bobby Robins came out and said, we can split if we 564 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.840 want to. Ye. And that's again, that's it goes against everything that 565 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.880 I've thought, having witnessed what happened with the Pack when when the Arizona schools 566 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.719 went to the Pack eight now that then became the Pac ten. How tied 567 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.920 you know, joined at the hip. They've been pretty much on all things, 568 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.719 whether academics or sports related. But now, um, the president of 569 00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:52.360 the u of A just saying, Um, however, how unlikely it is, 570 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.079 it's not out of the question. He said, we don't have to 571 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.480 do this. This is a quote. We don't have to do the same 572 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.039 thing. But President Crow, that's Michael Crow, the president of as you 573 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.800 the President, Crow and I are very very tight. I think it'd be 574 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.280 unlikely that would be split up. Yeah, more to what you were saying 575 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.840 before, h it would be very hard pressed up to figure that it would 576 00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:19.320 happen, right, Um. And then as far as the money goes again. 577 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.440 He says he's not nervous about what's you know, what's going on. 578 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.760 He's saying being that he's been a hard surgeon, so he doesn't get nervous 579 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.239 about something like a TV deal, which is, well, come on, 580 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:37.599 if you're that's that's part of the most u pragmatic thing anybody could ever say. 581 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.880 Come on, I have death. Yeah, you know, I interviewed 582 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.519 him one time. He said, I've held a heart, a beating heart 583 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.519 in my hand. I don't get nervous about other stuff like you ain't going 584 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:54.400 up a patient. That's nothing baby exactly. But uh uh, but he 585 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:59.039 said, he's he said, we're not going to get a big ten deal 586 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.880 and these are all quotes from Pete Damil's story. We're not going to get 587 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:06.639 a big ten deal or an SEC deal. If we win a bronze medal, 588 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.079 I think we'll all declare victory and move on. So basically, if 589 00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:13.000 they get the next best deal, they'll be happy. Yeah. Yeah, 590 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:20.079 you just saying, can it happen tomorrow? Let so anyways, any think 591 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.400 he said, once the deal gets done whenever that is, whenever the deal 592 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.679 does get done, he said, or whenever they come to them with a 593 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.920 deal that he said, it will happen fast. Everybody's ready to pull the 594 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.000 trigger. They're just as excited as there's anybody to get this done. Yeah, 595 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.719 but you know, and then he said, basically every school is going 596 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.519 to take the deal, analyze it, and then make their making their own 597 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.880 decision as to whether or not the deal is good enough. But he said 598 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.039 he thinks that he he goes, I have full confidence we're going to get 599 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:58.880 where we need to be. All right, Okay, anybody want to call 600 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.519 please do? We got eleven minut it's yeah. Left. There was a 601 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.880 couple of things. What did I say? A couple of baseball players have 602 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.079 or have entered the portal baseball baseball wise, so you know there's gonna be 603 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:12.760 a lot of movement here as the end of the year. Nay, as 604 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.079 always, you know, I you know, Steve, I think there's that. 605 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:20.440 I think there's a there's a gaggle of people out there who want Arizona 606 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.360 to go to the Big twelve. What do you mean? Of course, 607 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.519 I think there's a lot of people No, no, I think yeah, 608 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:30.920 of course who think that the PAC twelve is not gonna be no worthy is 609 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.719 it. I don't know. Is it? Like you say, if Arizona 610 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.440 jumps and Colorado jumps or whoever, it's done, it's done. What's the 611 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.400 appeal? Oregon is gonna say, what the hell? You gonna get the 612 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.880 but but but if it, if it holds together, you'll think it's a 613 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.960 good league. Let's assume it stays together and they have whether it's SMU or 614 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.679 somebody else. How sexy is it? How sexy is it? Now? 615 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.360 It's sexier than Waco? Yeah, but if you're gonna get paid a lot 616 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.559 of money to live in Waco, wake, you're gonna go to Waco. 617 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.519 I don't want Okay, I'm saying I don't want to go. I don't 618 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.079 want Arizona go to the Big twelve. You don't want to do that? 619 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.440 For that reason? I do. I want them to stay in the Pac 620 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.199 twelve. I really do. Given given the way, it's gonna be right. 621 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.800 Also, you know when you wait, okay, let's take this call. 622 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:23.760 Hi, you're on the air and I on the ball. So well, 623 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.239 look who's here? Look who's here? Is that what's happening? But 624 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.880 I'm grasping right, that's that's what we're going on. And like like hitchhiking, 625 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.519 we're we're pulling up our dye and seeing if we get a right. 626 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.639 I think that kind of is Mike and Bob. I don't pick up hitchhike 627 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.239 Mike, Mike, fat Mike, not fat Bob. I say, Mike, 628 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:52.719 let's say Bob, Bob, you called me Bobby Bear. I haven't 629 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.639 heard from you and forever you know. That's a good that's a good analogy 630 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.519 there there, Mike. That there Arizona's got that's standing on the side with 631 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:06.599 its thumb out and pulling its pant leg up, looking desperate, looking death 632 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:13.519 with it. And is the pactols such a dumpster fire or with an appeal? 633 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.800 I think the best bet is to merge with the with the Big twelve, 634 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.719 if anything, because the SEC is gonna be a monster that eats up 635 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:30.760 everything into its little brother, the Big ten. I think the a Big 636 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:37.840 three conference is to merge all all the Pact PAC twelve schools or the PAC 637 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:45.440 ten school now the two I guess now the LA schools are leaving and merge 638 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.760 with the Big eight. So it's gonna be the big egg in the PAC 639 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.800 tend Yeah, that's and again that's probably not a bad model, but that 640 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.119 maybe I don't know if they anybody wants to have that many schools in one 641 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:04.039 conference yet, well, well just read out the week. I'm afraid of 642 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.480 Arizona being one of the week. I think Arizona would be you know, 643 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:13.000 would be kind of the fat off of that. I what are we doing 644 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.280 football? What do we do in basketball? Said? Joke, like, 645 00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.079 who are we? What are we work? Who wants to see Arizona? 646 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.639 Well? No, no, I fact like, you're exactly yet, what's 647 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.719 the appeal of Arizona? And I'm not. This is a question because it's 648 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:31.039 to be fair, you're not You're not compare yourself to somebody else in the 649 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.840 bill the Arizona. The appeal to Arizona is the basketball. Okay, even 650 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.239 though they lost, that's that's yeah, you're a bad brother, hanging you're 651 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:44.719 a bad basketball program being turned into Colorado or something that wasn't there? What 652 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:49.519 the heck would it be? Well, we gotta hang ourselves on what they 653 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:54.400 did in the transfer portal and getting more American I players. I think that 654 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.199 was a big turn off. Don't get me wrong, getting these these overseas 655 00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:05.119 guys, but um, getting these homegown players does help have ever bad that 656 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.000 sounds on radio nowadays because it's a slippery slope. I'm not saying anything against 657 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:20.119 foreigners or European basketball players, but I locally people are more I guess content 658 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:25.280 with American players, understand because they don't know what what's going on on the 659 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.239 other side. Honestly, if this team last year would have done well, 660 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:34.079 they wouldn't even be thinking that, Oh, yes, it's exactly benedicted the 661 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:38.199 year before. They if Houston doesn't rough us up, but you know, 662 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:43.679 plays real defense on us because we're a soft program. If we flip the 663 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.280 scripts on our soft program, we could never mind. We're just going down 664 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:52.679 something with unresolved issues. This is like therapy. But back to whatever Zona's 665 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:57.880 appeal is, it's it is the basketball team, and Lloyd is well, 666 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:02.400 we're hanging ourselves on. I know Foball is resurrecting and we gotta have a 667 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:08.719 football season, but Arizona is basketball and that Lute is whatever. The remnants 668 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:14.119 of lute is fading away from the NBA with the equal dollars of the world 669 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.119 retiring, the last thing we got is is cursed. So you know, 670 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:22.320 that's what we had to hang ourselves. Hang our hat on a lot um 671 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:32.880 that's fading. No cowboys, that's never fading. Total cowboys. Don't. 672 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.559 Don't be a stranger. Stranger. I love you guys, you know, 673 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:45.519 thanks for finding calling it after a while. You checking on two old men 674 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.960 cookies. Man, I hate a ton of orioles in rocket. He looked 675 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.519 a little heavy. I picked up a lot. Pick up some weight, 676 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.559 dude, how much weight did you gain this week? I lost three pounds? 677 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.920 Did you? Oh? Because pictures of what you were eating, man, 678 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.440 it was very very mentally like twice and I didn't eat this. Yeah, 679 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.400 no, I lost some There a lot of water. I'm supposed to 680 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.440 drink a lot of one. I put on like five pounds, I really 681 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.719 did. I drank a lot of beer. Well that's where you ate a 682 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.280 lot of everything. Well that's where you picked it up and and and really 683 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.760 bad for me, ate a lot of sugar. Oh that's yeah, that's 684 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.760 not good. Guilty of that too. But but but I did the smart 685 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.280 thing though I had my physical before jas just hang on, I have no 686 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.000 resuscitation. If something happens to me, I don't know about him. You're 687 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.639 you're in charge of the show something I got. I got three months to 688 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:42.000 work it off before I go back for my next checkout. Oh the golf 689 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.519 course, right, I did go golfing down there. There's a really for 690 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:49.400 anybody who goes to Rock Point. They've got some nice golf course that downe 691 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.760 the two Nicholas design of course, as we played one of them this weekend, 692 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.559 and place called East lustil Mare that surrounded by water. Um. I 693 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.480 hit seven water balls, seven ocean ball yeah. Um. Two of two 694 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:05.000 of the guys playing with us hit a dozen. So um. It was 695 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.159 a fun course, very fun course. Take a little balls. I had 696 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:13.400 a lot of fun. I mean that in every way. So anyway, 697 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.079 Okay, we got to three minutes, maybe getting called if you want to 698 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.039 call one quick one. If the game tonight, I'm looking forward to that. 699 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.000 It's at six. Who times in six is usual? Yeah? Okay, 700 00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:27.400 you think, I know we asked at the top. You still think 701 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.480 Denver wins? Everyone's margin? What is this spin? What is the spit? 702 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.480 Have you seen? Yeah? I have it here. I would take 703 00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.480 it. If it's a plus three or something, I would take denver favorite, 704 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.559 Denver's favorite favorite. Okay, I won't touch it. Denver is, 705 00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:42.320 uh, let me see. No, I'm running, not just I'm just 706 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.159 gonna Denver is giving three and a half. Yeah yeah, in the money 707 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.639 line on Denver's minus one sixty five. Yeah no, I won't touch that. 708 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.400 I think they'll I think they'll win here. They're the better if I 709 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.559 can't say anyone, Manami, they're good. No, no, no, 710 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.440 man, I'm I'm tempted to take the plus one four. We haven't heard 711 00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:05.599 from your guy, Miami. Is it Justin? Who's Umami guy? God? 712 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.440 Forget him? Well, Devin, Devin, he's a Miami heat. 713 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.280 Yeah, so we'll see. I'm considering taking Miami money line like like like 714 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:16.480 Miami, Yeah, I would you like him? I don't blame you. 715 00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.760 I don't blame me. It should be a good game at whole, of 716 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.320 course, of course they they played well. I'm really upset with myself because 717 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.800 I wanted to take the money line in game two, Yeah, and I 718 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.119 didn't. That was plus something that's about three years and I didn't take it. 719 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:36.079 Thank you for doing that. By the way. Yeah, I want 720 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:37.119 to want to, you know, a good series. I don't want to 721 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:43.039 swee you don't don't tell you what you do because I don't want to know. 722 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.320 Well, it's still whoever wins tonight, it's still gonna it's still a 723 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:52.480 good series seven six or seven. Yeah, we'll see. What about that 724 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.920 the stuff that Kyrie Irving apparently was out there trying to get to go to 725 00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.599 the go to the Mavericks, Come on, yeah, that's just I didn't 726 00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.360 even BlimE if any of that. Um, I just think that's like noise 727 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.159 giant distract what he's really my one. I think he's gonna end up leaving 728 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.320 Mavericks, but I don't think he's gonna. Do you like him as a 729 00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:13.199 player? I do? Yeah, yeah, okay. Would you want him 730 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.280 on your team? Um? It depends if he's willing to take less than 731 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.280 what I think he's he wants the mask. If he's willing to take a 732 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.800 little less money, yea, I would want him as a talent next to 733 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.320 Lebron and Anthony Davis. But even if somebody who's just a pain in the 734 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:30.360 ass, well, I think maybe this is like I'm living in the past, 735 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.639 But I think with Lebron that isn't that hasn't been such a much of 736 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:37.519 an issue versus like other guys because of Lebron's like his personality, the player 737 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.320 he is, He's able to kind of mask all of that and kind of 738 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.639 take it all within himself and it's just basketball with him, you know, 739 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.159 from for the most part. So I think with Lebron, none of that 740 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:51.800 would be so much of an issue versus with guys like Katie who doesn't have 741 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.280 to that like you know, leadership, you know, you know, yeah, 742 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:59.119 so good anybody who has him, good luck to you. Yeah, 743 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.360 that's what I say. He destroyed. He goes to Dallas and everybody had 744 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.880 this promise, right yeah, and they just went into the craw. Yeah. 745 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.000 I mean he's only one whiff Lebron. That's why, like maybe I'll 746 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:08.519 live in the past because I was like, so long you're twelve, what 747 00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:13.920 kind of past do you have? I mean he's very start past, right, 748 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:22.559 you know, exists back with eighteen years old man Man said when I 749 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:30.000 was eighteen years old last year, I couldn't drink yea like too funny. 750 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.719 All right, Uh, that's it, that's it. Come back with first 751 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.079 stay back. Probably Rusty is all hell like you guys would say rusty, 752 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.280 yeah, we and you know, way it takes a long time to wear 753 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:43.960 our freshman. You get a lot of beer. You said that I'll shake 754 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:45.800 some of this. Somehow, my back hurts. They drank so much beer. 755 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.480 You can't tomorrow? You are you Friday? All right? Okay, 756 00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.880 okay, Hey, thanks for being with us, thanks for welcoming us back, 757 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.039 and we'll be back tomorrow, so be sure to stop in. We'll 758 00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:55.559 see you tomorrow.