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In a brilliantly funny move, Texas
State Rep. James tell Rico turned the

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tables on conservative Christian arguments by using
Biblical scripture to oppose a bill requiring the

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display of ten Commandments in public school
classroom. Tall Rico, a Democrat,

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calmly explain why the bill was not
only unconstitutional and Unamerican, but also deeply

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un Christian viral TikTok video. He
questioned the contradiction of wanting parental consent for

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values like empathy but pushing for religious
commandments in schools. Tall Rico's witty remarks

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left supporters of the bill searching for
words, and although it's unclear if his

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arguments influence the outcome, the bill's
time expired without receiving a vote. With

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lawmakers like tall Rico, the fight
against conservative religious impositions in school gets hilarious

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and a strategic edge. This article
is from Yahoo News by Ariel Messman Rucker

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from November twenty fourth, twenty twenty
three. So yeah, this is a

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continuing trend. We're starting to see
Christians pop up and speak against their own

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Aaron, what do you have to
say about about this report? This?

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This is an amazing video. If
anybody hasn't watched it, you should.

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I hate to I'm gonna get in
trouble for saying this, but pause this

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video and go watch it because this
is an amazing more more people like this,

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please, I'd vote for this guy
whether he was Democrat or Republican,

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Libertarian, Green Party, whatever.
But he had some really he just he

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just pointed out the hypocrisy between what
christ what Christians proporty believed, but what

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they're doing politically. Uh. And
he said things like a religion, a

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religion that has to force people to
put up a poster to prove his legitimacy

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is a dead religion instead of bringing
a bill that will feed the hungry,

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where instead mandating that people put up
a poster. Loving your neighbor is the

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most important law. But now we're
they're putting up a something they want to

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mandate that something that's put up that
doesn't show love for Hindus or Buddhists or

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atheists. They all they're all for
parents. Parents, Uh, parents,

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parental roles taking being the most important
thing in the classroom, parents having the

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best say. But there's no requirement
for this bill to require parental consent to

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have commandments in the classroom. That
they're against having rainbow rainbows for supporting LGBTQIA

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rights in the classroom, but they're
not against having ten commandments in the classroom.

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And lastly, he says, instead
of living out the way of Jesus,

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where instead imposing our beliefs on other
people. Instead of leading by example,

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we're leading by mandates. And that's
I just think that's those are just

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amazing, amazing things to confront people
with. Richard Well, I think it

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gets back to that whole the hypocrisy
saying I'll sort of generalize it. I

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mean, you just think about the
kind of things that the people that are

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trying to push that through. What
they would have said a few years ago

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about government entanglement in our lives.
They were totally against that. And I

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think, you know, I don't
live in Texas. I probably never would.

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I don't know if any of you
do. I know it's some good

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places in Texas, but what I
see there and follow is that, you

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know, the Texas legislature and school
board never seemed to stop trying to profess

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students into Christianity. The school books
are very, very bad in terms of

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the latest is that most of them
that had something about climate change and it

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got cut out. And the schools
are trying to put pastors in to replace

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school counselors. Pastors with no requirement
for any counseling training. So there's just

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this control mechanism, is what it
is. They want to narrow down and

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spoon feed people a certain ideology,
it seems, through the legislative process,

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through the school process, and it's
scary because you know, young minds growing

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up need to what's the old statement, You don't want to teach people what

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to think, but how to think. And I don't think that's happening much

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there in terms of the way they're
trying to do these things like putting up

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the Ten Commandments and not allowing,
you know, a rainbow flag, which

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is a very passive kind of thing, except if you hate what it stands

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for, which many of them do. I watched the video and I was

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like, wow, where have all
the Christians like this? Guy? Been?

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Right? I want more Christians like
this and I have said many times

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I even just said it again this
week. There are a lot of Christians

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out there that believe this radical Christian
nationalist ideas are hurting the religion, They're

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hurting the country, and we have
a perfect example of a Christian standing up

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to that in of all places,
the Texas State House. I was just

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so awesome, so brought up by
that. You can see I'm tongue tied

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right. All the atheist, Muslim, Hindu activists, all the activists of

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other faiths that opposes wild right wing
ideology aren't the only ones out there standing

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up. And they shouldn't feel alone
because there are good Christians out there,

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like mister Tyler Rico that are fighting
against it as well. He even says

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it near the end of the video
when of the verbal confrontation in the committee

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hearing, when he says, I
just worry that this is what gives us

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religious people a bad name, that
instead of living out the way of Jesus,

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we're instead of imposing our beliefs on
other people. Instead of leading by

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example, we're leading by mandates.
And so I'm very offended by this legislation.

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And he should be offended, and
he should be worried because that's exactly

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what it is doing, and it's
helping drive people out of the pews.

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I keep saying this honestly, I'm
not opposed to that, to that outcome

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of people not being in the pews, but I fear the danger and the

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damage that these people can do as
they lash out like a wounded animal because

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they feel like they're losing their America, not ours, just theirs. Jimmy

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yep. So this is, like
I said, a trend that we are

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seeing grow. We have this representative
and then, Kelly, you have spoken

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before about Christians fighting Christian nationalism.
Read an article. I read an article

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recently about an author who is challenging
the community his own community where politics and

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religion are into are intersecting, and
it's nice to see that this is becoming

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more of a trend, or at
least I'm starting to hear about it more,

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and I think more people may very
well be getting comfortable standing up to

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what is actually wrong with their organization
internally. But when we ask where have

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these people been, They've been afraid
of being ostracized, of being losing everything,

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losing their relationships because quite frankly,
they're stuck in a dogmatic regime that

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will take everything away from you,
and it's done that for centuries. We

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know that just because so many of
these people believe it. You know,

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it doesn't necessarily make it true.
But at the same token, we know

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that there's a danger in those numbers
all throughout the Middle Ages, you know,

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the sale of indulgences, the excuse
me, the Salem witch trials,

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the castration for the purposes of putting
somebody in the choir. I mean,

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these dogmas can make people do horrible, horrible, ugly things, and they're

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not on the right side of what
is consideredane. And I think the people

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that are stuck inside of it know
it, and so that's why we don't

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really see too much from them.
So it's refreshing to see somebody or many

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people with the guts enough to stand
up and be the voice of reason within

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their own communities. Aaron I thought, I mean, you stole my quote,

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not my quote, but maybe Tallarico's
quote religion of yeah, yeah,

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right. The poster quote that it's
not legitimate if you need to push it

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on people, that it is a
dead religion was absolutely brilliant. And the

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other thing that's brilliant is that this
guy is using their very own message to

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point out the flaws in the people
that are using their very own message.

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If that is not an indication that
there are so many more flaws in Christianity

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than most people think because they're busy
being stuck on one side. Then I

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don't know what is. But it's
definitely eye opening for people who are interested,

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I think, to learn more about
where they come from and what it

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is they've been told they have to
believe. This guy is a testament to

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the fact that you don't have to
believe it, and in fact, you

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could make it better. So Aaron, we'll kick it back over to you.

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No. That's one of the fascinating
things about the video is if you

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watch it, it seems the representative
that he is debating, she's hung up

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on the fact that in nineteen eighty
there was some decision. I don't know

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if it was a Supreme Court decision
or if it was a law passed in

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Texas where the Ten commis. It
seems like they had to come out of

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the school right, and what she
was focused on we have to correct this

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wrong. We have to correct this
wrong of the Ten Commandments coming out of

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schools. But it seems like she
didn't stop to think is like, should

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they be in schools right? And
what we can't be looking at the we

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could look at the We should look
at the past to inform us. We

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should look at the past to prevent
us ourselves from making the same mistakes over

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and over again. But other than
that, we need to look at what

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our needs are today and what we
want our country to be today. I

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want to live in a country where
people's religion is just something you don't talk

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about anymore. It's it's it is, it is private, you keep it

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to yourself, and and we find
other things to talk about and relate about.

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I think one of the most one
of the more dangerous things in Christianity

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is the call to preach it as
the call to God and share the Gospel,

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preach it and convert people. If
Christianity wasn't wasn't didn't have that,

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I think we'd be in a in
a much better place. And he says

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in the in his in his speech
that he's embarrassed to be a Christian,

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and to be honest, when I
was a Christian, I was kind of

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embarrassed to be called a Christian too, because it seems like the more the

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loudest Christians are the ones that are
the most hateful or the most bigoated and

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and but the unfortunately they have the
biggest and the loudest voice, and so

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they just give everybody else a bad
name. Even though I am positive that

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there are more, there are more
Christians out there that support lgbt q A

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rights, that aren't bigoted, that
want to help, that wanna make the

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world a better place. Then there
are non uh Christians that are out of

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that of the opposite. Just they
don't I don't know why they don't speak

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probably fear, probably I don't know, But I wish they would. They

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wish they'd speak up more. I
wish they'd come out and challenge these views

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that hey, this is not the
Christianity we want, this is not the

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country we want to live in.
It takes one person to stand up,

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and then it takes one more person
to join that person. You have to

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the second person is almost the most
important person to stand up, because lone

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voices are great, but you need
that second person to stand up and share

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the spotlight Richard, and then the
third, and the fourth and the fifth,

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and it keeps going. You know. I saw that whole story a

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little while ago, but it wasn't
just happening, and I thought it was

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so interesting how the proponent of that
rule just excuse my friends, but she

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got her butt kicked in the debate. I mean she just you know,

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I mean she and then to say
that, well there was this old lot

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should be turned around the other way. When was the last time she read

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the First Amendment to the US Constitution. It says there's this nice bright line

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between you know, religion and government. But it's like they totally ignore that

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part and act like they're you know, being prejudiced against because they're not allowed

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to dominate. That's the thing that
scares me. That's their whole thing,

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you know. And there are parts
of the New Testament that encourage them,

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in fact, demand that they go
out and bring everybody to God, you

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know. So you know, there
are so many I mean, you think

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about it, there are a lot
of what there's two or three thousand different

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brands of Christianity in the United States. Some of those who become very liberal,

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and they have gay preachers, and
you know, they allow women to

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do a lot more in the church. So there are good people out there

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that have a certain amount of belief
in some of the doctrines. But they

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also I think they put humanity and
compassion and empathy before the dogma. And

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to me, that's what makes a
good person. You know, if those

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are front and center in what you're
doing. I mean, what's scaring me

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also about what's going on with these
things groups of people is two words book

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bands. They really don't want kids
to learn anything they didn't. You know,

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they're afraid if they get exposed to
ideas, they won't do what their

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parents want them to do. They
won't do what the preacher wants them to

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do. They might go, wait
a minute, I read about you know,

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gee, isn't it true that ten
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It's not like they're you know,
this whole thing of they adopted that.

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I mean, how many people are
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I grew up in the San Francisco
Bay everyone and grew up there, but

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I've been living there for a long
time, you know, and very very

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gay friendly. But you know,
it's like, how many people are going

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to say to themselves, oh,
gee, I want I'm going to take

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on this sexual identity so I can
be prejudiced against. I mean, I

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hear these Christians say that all the
time about you know obill you know you

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you decided to become No, come
on, give me a break. That's

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where they're conflict with science always hits
bottom because they can't accept reality that they're

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dogma back from the Old Testament was
totally wrong because they were ignorant. They

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didn't know anything about medicine, they
didn't know anything about genetics, they didn't

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know anything about the different ways people
can be naturally, and so they have

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to, you know, make them
another because they're not the same as them.

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And that's the stuff. All of
that just is very scary. Yeah,

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And to your point about book bands, I read Moby Dick and I

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didn't become a whaler? Are you
sure? And earlier this week, we

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talked about how your religious views affect
how your politics affect your religious views,

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and I thought this story was like
a really good example of that because you

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have two people on different political ends
of the spectrum, and they're both believing

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in the same religion, but they're
both only picking and choosing the parts of

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it that fit their politics. And
I thought that was kind of an interesting

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contrast since we were talking about it
earlier this week. The fact that these

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people are willing to stomp on the
US Constitution by breaking that the first Amendment

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and make this dare America. I
think that says a lot about who they

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are, and it reminds me of
that famous quote from the Vietnam War,

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because these people seem to think that
to save the Constant, that they have

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to destroy the Constitution in order to
save it, at least to save it

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for them. They don't care about
anybody else, but they want to save

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it for them. And honestly,
I think if all Christians felt like the

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same way as mister tall Rico,
I don't think that we would have a

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lot of people that have a problem
with religion as much as we do today.

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And they probably I keep saying it, they wouldn't be losing people out

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of the pews, and I'm pretty
sure a lot of other people wouldn't mind

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them hanging around either. And I'm
hoping that as time goes on, we'll

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move away from these more militant Christians
to a more forgiving, caring Christianity,

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you know, the ones that Jesus
actually taught people to be, the kind

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of people that the kind of people
that mister tell Rico are. And it

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isn't interesting that we always hear from
Christians that when we use when we use

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Old testamentment arguments, they'll always say
the Old Testament doesn't count. And here

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we have these two people with two
political views and one spout in the fire

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and brimstone of the Old Testament and
the other ones actually quoting Jesus, and

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what sides of the political spectrums are
they on. It's kind of interesting,

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I thought, so, Jimmy.
Just one final thought. I don't think

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people like Tariko are ever going to
be pushing for you know, Christian nationalism

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or right Christian theocratic government. I
just don't see it in him. He

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seems to be, like you said, a more straightforward person who understands that

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there are other things in the world
that need to be taken care of besides

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pushing your dogmatic ideology. I think
that this whole article, this video,

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and the debate that takes place within
serves as a microcosm for what it looks

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like and how damaging it can be
for religion when somebody thinks for themselves.

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On one hand, we have a
dogmatic and very traditional Senate and their leaders

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pushing for laws or pushing for violations
of the Constitution, for really no good

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reason, right, and then we've
got somebody else who thought creatively to challenge

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that. And so that is why
I like to say, and I don't

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just like to say it, but
of course I've heard this many, many

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times. The quickest way to become
an atheist is to read the Bible.

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And I think the greatest threat to
establishment religion is for somebody who is a

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free thinker. And so that is
really evident in this case here when you

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can take an argument for the Ten
Commandments and compare it to an argument for

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homosexuality and they cancel each other out. You're using the same kind of mechanics,

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the same tools, the same Bible
to do the same thing. And

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it just goes to show you just
how shitty of a source it is.

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Excuse my language, but it really
has no leg to stand on, does

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it, Aaron? Yeah. I
just I'd like Christianity and Christians to get

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their story straight, and it has
too many legs to stand. It's been

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in two thousand years and they don't
even have the same they don't have the

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same story. They've got different stories
there. Even their book contradicts itself.

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Everybody's preaching different things and different laws, supposedly what God says. Uh.

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If if God is so powerful,
why is there so many different messages?

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I don't, I don't. It
doesn't make sense to me. Yeah,

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it doesn't make a lot of sense
to me. If you can make sense

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out of this, give us a
comment below,