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he and his friend had along a country road in the early hours of the
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to the podcast. Yes, hello, it is great to have you with
us today. And you're calling from North Yorkshire in the UK. Yes,
that's correct. Now, Frank, your experience has occurred in the nineteen eighties.
Would you like to start in the beginnings please, sir. Yeah,
this is an incident that a friend and I experienced around about nineteen eighty five.
It was about two am in the morning and I was the front seat
passenger of a vehicle driven by my friend, approximately aged nineteen twenty years of
age. Had little money at that time, so we had a lot of
time on our hands, so basically we used to go up for drives,
so it was fairly normal for us to go to drive to places that we
hadn't been before. We were traveling along a country lane somewhere in North York
to UK. The lanes were quite narrow twisted. There was also hedges that
were running parallel to the road. Due to the time of them all which
was round about two am, there was very little traffic on the roads and
we had not seen another vehicle passes for around thirty minutes. The vehicle headlights
on high beam nearly all the time because no street lighting, no moon in
the sky, so it was pitch blackness outside. The speed we were traveling
was approximately thirty to forty miles an hour. We were both chatting, sharing
jokes, basically having an enjoyable, relaxed time. It was then that a
light so bright that it lit up the whole of the interior of the car,
filling it with an intense bright light. It appeared as if the car
windows had been painted white. This totally blocked any vision to the outside of
the car. I remember turning my head to look at my friend who was
driving, and I managed to do so, but it was as if my
head was moving in slow motion. The approximate time from turning my head from
straight ahead to look at my friend, I would say, was approximately three
to four seconds. After look at my friend, I did turn my head
forward again, as if in slow motion. Then as suddenly as the light
appeared, it was gone and we were back on the country lane. My
friend pulled the car over in a lay by and we both got out the
car and said nothing to each other for around five minutes. This was probably
due to us both being in a state of shock. I eventually said to
him, did that really happen, to which he replied yes. So this
incident has remained in my thoughts for many years, and the unanswered question regarding
what had happened the whole circumstances were strange. A light so bright that the
windows of the vehicle appeared to be painted white, no apparent sound, the
slow motion of my head. Some of the questions to what happened to me
and my friend, I think, were finally answered. On the seventeenth,
twenty eleven. I had done some research into regression therapy and consulted with the
reputable practitioner that is local to me. She explained the process and the ability
to access a subconscious mind so as to discover potentially what took place twenty five
years ago. The following is what was retrieved. My friend and I driving
down the country lane, telling each other a few jokes. Then suddenly the
light appeared. I found myself being lifted out of the car and upwards through
the black night sky, passing stars. Then I find that I'm in a
room of whiteness, so white you cannot distinguish where the floor meets the walls.
A deathly silence, so much so that you could hear a pin drop.
Although I could not see anything in the room, I did have a
feeling that something was there, a sensation that I'm being watched and studied.
I seemed to be sat down, although I could not see if it was
a chair. The palm of my hands placed on my knees. Then,
approximately a foot in distance away from me, I could see a circle appear
on the floor. From the circle, a black figure rose out of the
floor, possibly due to be being seated. The figure looked very tall.
I'm unable to make out any facial features. It was very similar to the
character in the Star Wars movies Darth Vader the Unknown, feeling that the form
was male rather than female. The figure lifted its arms and reached out and
placed its fingertips a couple of inches from mine. Although I was in a
state of shock, I was unable to move any part of my body,
as if I was paralyzed. I then felt the sensation of an electric current
coming from this creature's fingertips and entry in mind. It then traveled through my
body, a very strange feeling I would describe as when someone walks over your
grave and you get a shiver like reaction. But this was through all my
body. I started to panic, and not by voice, but some kind
of mind communication. I heard the words stop resisting. The power that was
coming back to my body now seemed to be getting drained from me and back
into the figure in front of me. I was starting to feel weak and
wooded that whatever was being taken from me may result in me dying. When
all this power had been taken, the figure sunk back into the floor and
disappeared. I then felt myself falling unexpectedly, just as if a trapdoor had
been open beneath me. I was falling like a stone through the starry black
sky. Then suddenly back in the car. With regards to my friend,
and I'd just like to read out his bearings regards to what happened. We
were traveling about forty miles an hour and there was no traffic around, nor
was there any street lighting. It was fairly dark, and as one would
expect, nothing unusual. We had went out for a drive. As we
made our way home, suddenly all the car windows went white. Not your
usual white. This was an intense type of white. The inside of the
car radiated this particular whiteness. It was all around us. I could barely
make out Frank. He seemed to blend in with a whiteness. This light
was everywhere inside and out of the vehicle. There was no noise. Everything
was quiet. I couldn't hear the engine noise, nor feel the tires moving
along the road. It was silent. I remember turning to Frank, but
could barely see him. The car must have been moving. I certainly don't
remember either slowly down or stopping despite what was happening. Within a short space
of time, possibly five to ten seconds, maybe slightly more, everything returned
to normal. Suddenly, the darkness of the night appeared again. The whiteness
had disappeared. We were back to normal, and I was still driving at
the same speed. It was though I'd been driving all the time. We
then pulled over and stopped the car. We were both a little shaken,
possibly shocked. Nothing like this has ever happened to me or as before,
We couldn't explain what had just happened. That is interesting, Frank, was
it only yourself that had the regression or did you both? What basically happened
was I went through the regression? Maybe I should have mentioned this. Actually
I went through the regression, and at first I was quite shocked because and
I said to the practitioner, has that really happened? And she said,
well, as far as I'm concerned, yes, it has happened, but
potentially your friend may have experienced more than he's actually said. So she said,
I'd like to go and see him, tell him that you've found something
out, but don't give him any details. Ask him if he's willing to
get regressed. She said, if he is willing to get regressed, and
basically his experience is the same, although his perceptions might be slightly different,
she said, it has got to have happened. So I went to see
him and I explained, look, I have found out something a bit more
what happened that night through regression? Would you be willing to be regressed?
And he basically said to me, look, whatever happened on that night was
quite shocking. I don't want to go regression. I said, are you
one hundred percent certain? Because I don't want to tell you and influence you
in any way if you are wanting to get regressed. He said one hundred
percent. I don't want to get regressed. So then I basically told him
my experience, which was I would have loved him to get regressed and to
come back with a similar experience to to what I what happened to me,
because I appreciate a lot of times these incidents, it's the individual and you've
got the individual story. But if you had two people with the same story,
that would have been Wow. I was going to say, out of
this world. But maybe that's probably not mess not necessarily or is it an
appropriate term? Probably is an appropriate term for us. It certainly would be
interesting if he had this regression. But also on the other side, you
can you can understand maybe why didn't because he's aware of something which drains and
peculia happened. But sometimes we don't want to know, which is kind of
happy what we do remember and that that's it. I mean, I do
think to myself, you know that I wouldn't necessarily say, before this experience,
I was an avid science fiction or watching documentaries about being abducted. But
I do think to myself that that experience, I do feel privileged to have
had that experience, and I just wish that he would have gone through with
it. But I can certainly understand, you know, and I still see
him once once a month, and we have been friends for probably forty six
years, and you know, probably maybe about once a year one of us
might mention, you know, that experience the light, So yeah, like
I said, I do look at it, not in a negative way,
but in a positive way to have that experience, and there's always a chance
you might listen to you on here and he might change his mind. I
just think that because now I've told him my story, I've corrupted potentially his
experience, so that so much so that if if he was regressed and he
does come up with a similar story, because I've already told him now,
that validity maybe of that experiences is in question. Of course, that's certainly
a possibility. And the thing with regrets, you know, people are very
two minds about it. False memories and exactly and all that you know,
I do believe as its uses. But yeah, but what from the point
when you're in the car you've seen this intense bright light. Now obviously that
the thought went through your head that this isn't like a truck headlights or anything
like that. At which point did you think something strange has happened? I
think it was the fact that we've all been driving, you know, on
a motor ay and on the opposite carriage waking up the wad if somebody's been
on full beam and it dazzled you. But that dazzlement is normally straight ahead.
The fact that one eighty, when one eighty view of the inside of
the car was certainly that the light was so bright, not being able to
see out of the windows, that the car was lit up inside so much
so that and I didn't mention this actually, but when I looked at Aaron,
the left hand side of his face was lit up as well. And
Aaron is dark skinned, is of Asian descent, And I just I've never
experienced a light so intense as that. And I've been driving for you know,
thirty plus years, easier probably thirty five years. And yes, I've
experienced being dazzled before many times, but never to such an extent. And
the other thing what puzzles me is if you're driving thirty to forty miles an
hour on a twisty country road and you get somebody, you know, head
on, blinding you, it's difficult. It'd be difficult. I would have
to break because I'll be worried about coming off the road. But imagine if
you can't see out of the vehicle full stop, how did he manage to
keep that vehicle on the road. I don't know. And that just makes
me think as well. You know, thirty to forty miles an hour,
we would have come off the road. I'm fairly certain of that. Another
friend of mine, who I say on a regular basis, who was very
much into science fiction, he said, did you check your watch, because
he said, you experience it might have you might have felt it was ten
seconds, but it could have been twenty minutes. And I said, look,
I said no, no, I said that that was far from my
thoughts. Necessary to looking at my watch to see if you know, I'd
lost time or gain time in any way. But yeah, I did think
to myself we were very lucky, or were we lucky? I don't know
that the car didn't leave the road. Very strange from the time you had
this experience to the time you had regression that was obviously playing over in your
mind for all those years, not really knowing what had happened. Yeah,
I not to the extent, you know, I'd lose sleep or anything.
But it would puzzle me what happened on that night. And you know,
late fifties, I've experienced a lot of things in my life, but something
like that such a big puzzle what has happened? And I had done some
like research with regards to regression, and thought to myself, well, I've
got nothing to lose by going through this process and potentially plentied again. And
I don't know if I mentioned to you, but I've worked for Cleveland Police
for twenty one years and I've never necessarily shouted from the rooftops that I've been
abducted by aliens. But I mentioned last time there was a training seminar at
police headquarters and there was about three to four hundred staff there and some of
your senior officers, and there was probably about ten people to a table.
And you know, initially when you're trying to you know, get to know
people and basically turn't the person on your right, and you know, the
trainer said, can you find out two things about the person sat next year?
And the winning table gets a box of chocolates. And so there was
probably about twenty five tables. So that went around people and the guy wide
said, well, this has happened to me. This was after the regression,
and he said do you want me to read this out? I said
yeah, So you were heastood up and said, oh, this is Frank
and he's had an experience and he believes that he was abducted by aliens.
As you can expect, you know, the people start to laugh, and
I knew that potentially I was leaving myself hope to be ridiculed, and the
train said, oh, Frank, would you mind telling us what happened?
So I basically gave this my story, So cutting the long story short out
of twenty five tables and guess which table won the chocolates for the best story.
So, and I do believe. I think it's it's very ignorant for
people to think, you know, are the billions of planets out there that
we're the only intelligent life form. I think it's you know, I mean,
come on, there could be somebody looking at us now and we are
the equivalent of how we look at ants. So I just it's down individuals.
Nit. I'm not certain the people. Please believe me, Please believe
me. It's up to them if they want to believe me. I give
my story and it's down. However, it's quite easy to dismiss things.
It's very easy. I mean, talking about Yorkshire, you know you had
during the eighties, you had Alan Godfrey, he was the police comes to
yes, yeah, I had him as a guest back in twenty nineteen,
I think it was, and he had his experience. He'd seen the bright
light moving along a road, not very fast. He was looking I think
he was looking for cows. It was some missing cows and he saw this
bright light. But that was it. He couldn't remember, and of course
he had the regression and these these memories. Then what happened all came flooding
back, and by him coming out, it cost his job because he was
so outspoken. He was just basically saying this is what happened, and obviously
affected his career. So you can understand why people who have had these experiences
don't speak about it because of coworkers and chance that they concernly affect their careers.
Yeah, exactly. I mean I was approached by somebody who was compiling
a book with regards to strange experiences, and this was about fifteen years ago.
I mean that the book didn't happen, but he said, I would
like to include your story in the book. And I said, well,
would it add validity to my character because obviously I appreciate people who are listening
or reading about my story don't necessarily know anything about me as such, I
said, would it be worthwhile, you know, including that police employee,
and he said, oh, yes, yes, that would right. I
said, well, I'd have to get permission, so I emailed the chief
officers per and a couple of weeks later she got back to me and she
said, yes, that's fine. So we don't mind you knowing you've been
included in the book and mentioning that you're a police employee, but please don't
mention that you work for clear from police, just covering their backs. And
they well, yeah, yeah. And I suppose I can understand to a
certain extent because people might think this guy's working for the police and he thinks
he's been abducted by earliens. I mean, is he a very rational thinker
and blah blah blah. Is he unhinged? But I do think to myself
that the more people who come forward, and I do think that, as
you mentioned, there is a lot more people out there who had experiences.
But the feel that you know, if I come forward, you know I'm
going to get ridiculed, and you know about lose friends or blah blah blah.
And I just hope that by myself and other people coming forward, it
just encourages and motivates people. Well, yes, I am going to share
my story. There is an awful lot and I've had guests on here which
are in professional jobs and they would say, you know, keep my name
out of it or share my account, but please don't use my name and
don't say what my profession is. And I guess I have on here come
from all walks of life, all backgrounds, all kinds of jobs, and
one percent there are a lot more police officers current and retired that I've had
these experiences and won't go public because of this. So but there's an awful
live there and it's important that people do come forward because the more people there
are, the more it's then going to be accepted. There's still it's getting
better, but even now there is still that stigma attached. Oh exactly exactly,
and I just I do get a little bit frustrated to a certain extent.
I do feel now that because I'm not employed as such, especially in
the policing anymore, that even more encouraged to say, well, look this
has happened to me, and if to add validity to my character, my
name that I used to work in a policing environment, and people hopefully will
think, you know, oh well this does seem quite How could I put
this normal as normal as you can be in this crazy world? Exactly?
Yeah, what is normal? What is normal? Indeed? But you know,
like I say, these these experiences to happen to people all over the
world. During your hypnotic session, you saw a figure that comes out of
a circle in the floor. Yes. Do you recall any details about him?
There was There was absolutely no facial features. What I could remember it
was if it was a blank face, similar sort of shape to sort of
like the dart Bader in Star Wars in the sense of as if imagine you
know, like the sort of the silhouette of the Virgin Mary, you know,
where she's wearing a headscarf and that shape like a flowing sort of dress,
type of cloak, that sort of silhouette. I can't know. I
can't remember any facial features at all. And the room you're in. Can
you recall anything that you out during the session? How you felt, how
your body felt, how did the room feel? The room was the room
felt very clinical. The whiteness I could actually I couldn't distinguish where the floor
and the wall finished and met, so I couldn't even gauge the size of
this room. Although initially I couldn't see anything, I just had that sensation
that there was something else in the room. And once this circle appeared in
front of me, this figure rose out of the circle. Certainly I was
frightened. I can remember as if I sat in something. I'm saying it's
a chair, but certainly sat down, my hands on my knees, just
feeling quite tense. I remember my muscles were quite taut. And then of
course this energy which came from this creature's fingertips, which were probably about maybe
a couple of inches away from my fingertips, and just that figure of this
energy going through my body. It was a very example I gave where in
the UK that term somebody's walked over my grave and you get that shivering sensation
up mainly over your back and the top of your arms. But this was
the whole of my body. That sensation was the whole of my body.
Then when it's after about i'd say probably about five to ten seconds, it
starts to take this energy out of me and I'm start to feel weak,
so much so that I can feel myself starting to sink into this chair or
whatever I'm sat on, thinking that this creature has taken the life energy out
of me, and that basse I'm going to die. The telepathic type of
message it sent to me a very frightening experience at the time. Then after
this energy you've been released. Just imagine being sat on a chair and a
trapdoor being open underneath you without expecting it, that sort of force of falling
through the sky. Then it just links up to when you were then in
the car again, Yes, I remember falling through the sky, the darkness,
stars back in the car. The light was still in the car when
I arrived back in the vehicle. Then probably a second after light was gone,
my friend pulled the vehicle over. We got out, and like I
said, it was probably maybe four or five minutes. We didn't say anything
to each other because we were both in such a state of shock. I
know it was a while ago now, but in the days that followed this
experience, how did you feel did you feel any different? I felt different
in the sense of that my sleep pattern probably for the next couple of weeks
was interrupted because it was such a stocking experience. And also I think because
I didn't feel strong enough to be able to divulge to other people what had
happened, so I kept things to myself. I just think the experience itself,
certainly with regards to our sleep pattern, had a negative effect. Location
Where has happened? Have you ever gone back to this area? I think
unfortunately, because my friend and I would the early hours of the morning,
you know, two o'clock in the morning, we would go out for a
drive, not with any set destination in mind, so we would literally just
drive. We would end up in different locations, you know, in North
Yorkshire where we'd never been before. And with regards to that location, unfortunately,
I wouldn't be able to remember exactly where it was, but you kind
of have like a rough idea close to any villages, I would say roughly
in North Yorkshire. It was maybe somewhere between probably Greater and the norm Fyorkshire,
maybe towards Helmsley, that sort of area. And do you think this
was possibly just a one off, like maybe you were just in the wrong
place at the right time. I think so. I think so certainly nothing
like that has happened again. I do look at it now as not necessarily
a negative experience, but a privileged experience for something like that to happen.
Why I was chosen or possibly my friend if also he experienced exactly the same
experience I had. Why I was chosen randomly for this kind of experiment,
I don't know, because there must have been some kind of purpose behind it,
you know, there must have been a reason why this happened, whether
you were being given something or it was just simply something was taken away.
Exactly. There must have been some reasoning for some purpose, whether it was
just some kind of generic study of a human being. I haven't really noticed
since that experience anything particularly different in my life. I'm not sure it's interesting
the same as a lot of these experiences. They raise more questions and they
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have considered maybe having further regression to maybe try and find out some reasoning for
this experience. And you know, this experiment. Obviously, to a certain
extent, what happened, what I've already experienced is out of this world experience.
I keep saying it, But it is a possibility maybe to go through
regression and try and find out why this has happened. You may get a
little bit extra or you may not. It's always difficult to tell. It
might be what you do remember is either O there is, or it may
be that is all your mind would allow you to retrieve. Well, this
is what I've thought. You know, obviously I seem to have gained quite
a bit more knowledge via the regression, but prior to that, I'm just
wondering why I didn't remember extra things, such as the experience in the room.
But I don't know if that was just a way of my brain coping
with things, or whether it was intentionally removed from my conscious mind, because
I have thought that it just seems a bit strange. Why would I only
have partial memory? Also, the regression therapist, the individual you used,
had they came across these kind of accounts before. Yes, she had.
I did quite a bit of research to find somebody reputable with regards to the
regression, and I found somebody local, and as well as doing private work,
she also worked for the local NHS with regards to dealing with people with
phoebigas, So people who were frightened of spiders, she would hypnotize them and
obviously put positive thoughts with regards to biders whatever they were frightened of. One
thing I do regret actually is she did give me the option to actually record
the regression, and I think at the time she didn't have any audio tapes
left, and I wish if I'd known that prior, i'd a tuckle on
my own audio recording, which I think that would have been a fantastic thing
to have now, because obviously as we get older, I mean I have
my memory is fading. But the account I gave you was I put it
down on my laptop probably about ten years ago because I thought to myself,
you know, I do want to try and retain as much of that memory
as possible, and I can't rely on my memory as much anymore. So
I thought by physically typing it into my laptop and having that record there just
maintains that memory and the details, et cetera. Of course, it's important
to make the notes, to put it down paper. Even though an experience
like this, I think it tends to get installed in your memory's hard drive,
it seems to remain there. But Frank, it's an interesting encounter,
and if you do decide to make maybe get more regression, let us know
if there's any expansion on what did happen. And I think certainly, if
I do go ahead with further regression, I will ensure that there is a
physical recording of it, because I do appreciate, like like I've just mentioned,
as time goes by, your memory can faded and you can potentially forget
which might seem insignificant at the time but be quite important factors. So I
am tire with that idea of regression. I wouldn't go back to the same
person. I probably find somebody else reputable. But yeah, it's certainly something
that I would consider going through with because the only question now, which is
in my brain, which we already mentioned, what was the purpose of this
experience? What was the reasoning behind it? And this energy which was transmitted
from this creature into my body? What did this achieve? And yeah,
what was the reason behind it? I said, it was definitely a purpose.
And if there's a purpose, there's an intelligence exactly. And I think
if I was to find that out, probably all my questions to a certain
extent thatd be would be answered, maybe trying to find out maybe where these
where this creature is from and why me. Basically I presume it was just
a random thing. But then I think to myself, you know, am
I overthinking? But maybe have I been observed? Has my friend been observed
for a while? And it's a case of yes, these two are quite
suitable. So these are going to be our next two subjects. Definitely a
possibility. Two lads ripping around the country roads of Yorkshire at two am in
the morning. I doubt if there have been too many people out at that
time. Yeah, so if you're going to do something like that, you'd
want it, you know where there's an idea there's no witnesses these two young
lads. It might seem like, like I said, it might seem like
the whole experience took the light editionally probably ten maybe ten seconds but it could
have been it could have been twenty minutes, it could have been even an
hour. So to lose. If you're going to do something like that,
you need to you're not going to do it in a city center or a
town center where you're going to get hundreds of people or maybe even more people
witnessing this blinding white light. Interesting thing with the energy, you said this
figure touched your fingertips with theirs. It didn't actually touch. It was probably
i would say, maybe a couple of inches away from you know, our
fingertips touching fingertips, so it wasn't exactly a physical touch, but just a
little bit of a gap between our fingertips. And did you see this energy
leaving your body from your fingers or was it more of a feeling? It
was totally a feeling. I don't remember seeing anything either entering my fingers my
body from this creature or leaving, but it's something that you actually felt was
being taken from you. Yeah, the sensation was, but just the whole
of my body was a tingling sort of sensation and that was, you know,
from my head to my toes. And was it literally started at your
head and then it worked its way down. From what I remember, the
first sensation was actually at the fingertips, going up my arms, and then
the sensation seemed to literally head north and south of my body from my arms.
I had seat scan. They inject this chemical in your body. Yes,
yes, I've experienced it a few times. Yes, you've got to
tell me about the heat, the warming up. Yes, your body feels
as though it's warming up. The contrast exactly, And that styed literally at
my head and then it went all the way down my body. And I'd
never felt anything like that. Yeah, it's strange, isn't it. It's
very strange, was it kind of in a way? Did it feel like
that? The difference probably between the CT scan feeling and this was the CT
experiences like it feels like a warming of your body. This experience was more
intense. This sensation was more intense, so much so, I mean I
felt at the time sat in his chair I did, which I didn't mention.
I did feel as I was paralyzed, as though I couldn't move this
sensation which was transmitted from this creature into me. If I could of,
I'm sure I would have stood up, because obviously I've never experienced anything that
sensation before to such an extent. The only thing I can I can relate
to is sometimes when you get a cold shiver, which just lasts for maybe
a couple of seconds. This was the whole of my body. It felt
as if imagine if you if to a certain extent, if your body,
if your body is being heated up, and you know when you it's like
in a pan, you start getting those bubbles forming, and you know you
can feel that, you can see the intensity of the boiling. It felt
like that as if you know, I'm getting sort of a massive sensation of
tingling, and just as feelings as though the whole of our body is starting
to How can I put it a difficult thing to try and explain, but
I've experienced the ct scam at least three or four times and that warming sensation,
which seems quite strange when they put the contrast in. But this,
this was far more intense than that. Yeah, it just made me think
about that. Yeah, the chemical they put inside you for that scan via
injection, there's in too much pain to really take any notice. Yeah,
yeah, I think it's to highlight all your your blood vessels, and it
just improves the quality I think of the seat scam right, Okay, you
know, it could be something that was completely one off, or it could
be something which the selection maybe maybe something which is in your past, in
your genes is, or something which has been experienced by other family members.
I mean, I just to interrupted saying nothing else has happened to me.
Something else did happen to me, but I don't necessarily relate it, But
I mean, I don't know. When I was about five, I was
asleep, and I remember being woken in the bedroom and there was a figure
in my bedroom, and it was a glowing figure stood in the bedroom.
And strangely enough, I didn't feel frightened by this picture. And the only
way I could describe it was similar to sort of like the shape of you
know, the Statue of Liberty, and with like the crown going around its
head thorns. And this creature was stood in my bedroom, and I remember
it putting its hand out to me, giving me some kind of image of
itself, like a small representation of itself. And then this figure left and
I fell asleep. Surprisingly I fell asleep, but I fell asleep, and
then I woke up the next morning looking for this figure, this representation it
gave me. And I can remember even I mean it's got a long long
time ago. I can remember looking underneath the bed. I can remember looking
underneath the mattress and I couldn't find this figure. And I still say to
myself now, I'm probably maybe seventy percent certain it happened, and I'm thirty
percent thinking by myself, you've had a dream and it was so realistic that
you've thought to yourself, I need to find this figure it gave to me.
So I suppose I have had another strange experience. But whether it was
as such or whether it was a dream, I'm still quite open minded about
that, to be honest, be related or it could be, you know,
completely unrelated. And yeah, maybe something if you do decide to get
regression again, maybe that is something that you could maybe ask them to take
a look at. I'm always a little bit The last time I went for
regression, I said, look, I've had a strange experience, and she
said, right, well, I don't want you necessarily to tell me what
your experience was. She said, the process is, you know, a
form of hypnosis, and will regress you hopefully back to that night, but
she said don't initially tell me anything that had happened, which I thought was
quite good of her in the sense of that, you know, she's not
getting any heads up with regards to what's happened or what I'm wanting to find
information out about. So I'm just thinking, if I go for regression again,
do you think it would be worth while we mentioning it at all what
I've found out, or I should just go in there and say, look,
I've had a strange experience. I have been regressed before, and I've
found out some information, but I've still got some questions I need answered.
Do you think that's the way to go about it, or do you think
I should actually say, look, initially, this is what I've found out.
I appreciate with the regression. You know, there is a few people
who are quite skeptical about it, and with regards to false memories and things
like that. I'm just wanting this regression. I do have to be as
how could applet it as honest and legitimate as possible if you look at the
fact that you'll be using a different regression therapist. So really what it is
is it's to put your own mind at rest to know that these memories that
came out in your previous regression are going to be true to what happened me
personally, I would say, don't tell them anything. And obviously you're going
to be going to someone which has experience of these sessions, so I would
just do what you did before you knew what kind of happened. Yeah,
and do it that way. Right when you bring out the memory of little
figurine and figure in your room when you're five, I mean, you've got
enough information there just to say five years old, the nights and it happened.
You're all charged home, So that's enough. And if there is anything
there, something may come out. But of course the less information you tell
them the better. Exactly. Yeah, Yeah, that would certainly be the
I think the most sensible way of doing things, And certainly if there was
an option, which the problem would be to record the regression, because I
think if you it's one thing me saying I was sat in the chair and
I was upset or I was wooded concerned, but if you can actually hear
it in somebody's voice, that genuine fear, I just think it just adds
so much more to the validity to a certain extent of the experience. I
do have regrets with the guards to not getting the recording of the first experience,
but I do think, you know, I'm getting older, and you
know, my health is it's stable at the moment, but not fantastic.
So it just it makes me think, you know that like getting this podcast
done, getting probably further regression done while I'm still healthy enough to get it
done, and sharing as much as I can really with regards to my experience,
and hopefully, like I said, encouraging others to come forward. You
know, at least one episode I do put I encourage, it does encourage
at least one person. Sometimes an episode can encourage so many people what the
show's about. You know, this is what I wanted. Even if one
person listens and it helps them in any way, even if it's just giving
them a nice relaxing dog walk for an hour exactly, But people do benefit.
And I think also that the people who don't necessarily actively contribute as such,
but they'll listen to stories and it just probably you know, that they
might want to share their experience, but it probably just reassures them. Look,
I'm not on my own here. Other people have experienced very similar things,
and you know, those people might be just content with that thought of
there's lots of other people out there a very similar situation that may just probably
gives them a little bit of reassurance that I mean, some people might think,
you know, I'm going crazy here. And that's the most common thing
people right in the subject bar of emails is You're going to think I'm crazy.
Yeah, even if someone's had these experience and they've never shared in their
immediate circle total of ferriends, even if they know that there's other people out
there which have had it, then yeah, they feel less less alone.
Exactly. You're sharing that experience, your thoughts with a bit potentially. I
mean, obviously you're open to the world Wide Web, you talk about potentially
millions of people. But I just think the more people have come forward,
I don't want the necessarily because it's a totally different thing to a certain extent,
conspiracy theories and the government trying to suppress things. The more people have
come forward, the better, I agree, the more than MARYA. Frank
Exactly, Frank, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners
from the tone Take care and I look forward to hearing from you, and
if I do go through with a further aggression, I'll certainly back in touch.
Please do, Frank, please do, and then we can have a
nice update. Okay, Frank, you enjoyed the rest of your day and
I will be in touch. Okay to take care, Okay, take care,
Frank. That is all for today. Keep update and connected with the
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