WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:15.000 day. Now here's Nick coffee, all right, and welcome back, Not 3 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:18.600 exactly Nick coffee, as we'd like to say, your substitute teacher. Welcome 4 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.719 to the five o'clock Hour're taking you home down the home stretch, as Joe 5 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.519 Knucksaw used to say, round and third and heading for home. Man, 6 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:30.399 it's for sure. And I'm Scott Fitzgeril John Alden running and playing those tunes 7 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.119 for you. We'll keep you company on the way home. Just some of 8 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:37.159 the big stories we're following this afternoon. Of course, college baseball tournaments starting 9 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:40.439 all over the area. As we were talking with Jeff Milby, who calls 10 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:46.079 games for the ACC Network on their feed, the Louisville Cardinals fall to Miami 11 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.759 eight to five in their initial game in Charlotte. One game going on at 12 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:53.880 the ACC tournament right now. On top of the seventh it is eight to 13 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.920 five. Florida State has the lead over Georgia Tech at the SEC Tournament. 14 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:02.600 During the top of the ninth it is ten seeds South Carolina working on an 15 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.120 upset. They're up ten to five. Top of the ninth over seven seed 16 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:11.239 Alabama. We will have Kentucky for you tomorrow ten fifteen right here on Sports 17 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:12.840 Talk seven to ninety, Darren Headrick will have the call. They're going to 18 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:17.719 take on LSU, and then Darren Headrick is going to join us tomorrow. 19 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.640 He'll be back with us around four thirty. Other games going on in college 20 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:25.840 baseball tournaments today. It is three seed Indiana taking on six seed Perdue at 21 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:30.400 the Big Ten Tournament. That one just getting underway about five minutes ago. 22 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.040 Western Kentucky is in action tomorrow at the Conference USA Tournament taking on six seed 23 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:38.519 Florida International. At the OVC Tournament, three seed Morehead State will get underway 24 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:44.599 tomorrow against either Eastern Illinois or SIU Webwardsville and over to Evansville. It is 25 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:49.799 the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament. The second seeded Murray State Racers will take on 26 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.159 six seed Southern Illinois or seven seed Belmont. Het did want to bring you 27 00:01:53.239 --> 00:02:00.120 up to speed on a little college softball action. Unfortunately, Kentucky and Indiana 28 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:05.239 both bounced out of the NCAA tournament, but there is some local actions still 29 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:09.080 going on. That would be former Assumption Rocket Braxton Downs. Remember She was 30 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.280 the Louisville Catholic Sports Athlete of the Year when she played for the Rockets. 31 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.840 She notched an RBI single in the top of the third. That's all Indianapolis 32 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:21.039 the University of Indianapolis would need as they move on at the D one Softball 33 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.520 or excuse me, the D two Softball World Series in Orlando yesterday, they 34 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:29.319 beat Leonora Ryan one to nothing. They are the only unbeaten team left in 35 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:31.680 the top half of the bracket. They are awaiting the loser's bracket survivor. 36 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:36.840 They will meet them tomorrow at eleven am. So congratulations. Quickly, let 37 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.039 me update you on some of the high schools softball district action going on. 38 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:45.479 Some were going to crown a champion tonight at the seventeenth district in Etown. 39 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:47.840 John Harden and Central Harden are going to get going here in about twenty five 40 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:53.360 minutes time Etown in North Harden at seven thirty to Washington County is the nineteenth 41 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:59.240 district championship. Nelson County and Bethlehem will go at six o'clock and the twenty 42 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.840 first district being played over at holy Cross High School Long Dixie Highway. Holy 43 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:07.479 Cross and Fardale will go at six Already underway at Bullet Central it is the 44 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.960 twenty third district championship game North Bullet and Bullet Central playing in that one. 45 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.240 Then over to Manuel where in about twenty minutes time it will be Manual and 46 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:21.199 Portland Christian playing for that championship. And at Sacred Heart underway, Sacred Heart 47 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.280 in Atherton will play for the twenty seventh district and finally, certainly last but 48 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:29.120 not least, coming up tomorrow at six point thirty at North Oldham it will 49 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:34.000 be South Oldham taking on Oldham County and getting that high school softball championships. 50 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.800 And we'll have updated scores for you tomorrow morning on news radio eight forty whs 51 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:43.639 starting with yours truly and of course Tony Cruz all right, won't be long, 52 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.639 John, and we are gonna be talking college football. It's hard, 53 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.680 right, I already got in my inboxes. Tell my wife this. Last 54 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.759 night, I the University of Kentucky sent out an email to all the media 55 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.120 folks going, if you need SEC media football credentials, you need to let 56 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.719 us know. Now. It's just got done with Derby, I know, 57 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.919 and it's three months away. We'll be kicking off college football. And that 58 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.719 sounds like a long time, right, But when you think about it, 59 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.520 three months ago, it was February. I know. I mean, that 60 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.680 really wasn't that long ago. So it's gonna it's gonna creep up on us 61 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.920 quickly. College football, a new era of college football, the twelve team 62 00:04:15.959 --> 00:04:18.680 college football playoff. Oh my god, dude, dude, let me tell 63 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.399 you something. That is the hardest thing. And as I was mentioning before, 64 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:25.839 that's the hardest thing for me to get used to because as college football 65 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.480 starts to look more and more like the NFL, and maybe because I really 66 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.680 I got it. I'm a I'm a daily fantasy player, so meeting on 67 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:38.800 Sunday morning, I will wake up and turn on NFL Network and I will 68 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.199 pick two teams for fantasy. I don't do the beginning of the year thing. 69 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:45.879 I just picked. It makes it fun. I went into fantasy sports 70 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:47.120 kicking and screaming. I did. I was a guy who's like, how 71 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:50.160 do you people do this? And I've never I've never dabbled. Yeah, 72 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.800 but I know people and I guess you're one of them now that once they 73 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.439 get into it, like they do it every single year. Yeah, exactly, 74 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:00.240 and it really makes it fun kind of throughout the year because you do 75 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.439 watch the games in a different way and and you know, I played for 76 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.560 beer money. You know, I bet five ten dollars, you know, 77 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.480 on a team and I make it. But it's fun in the morning because 78 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.560 you wake up, you have your coffee, You're watching them break it down. 79 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.839 You're kind of picking your team, and then and then you go through 80 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.680 throughout the day and you get to watch it long. But as the NFL, 81 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:21.319 as college football started looking more and more like the NFL, I come 82 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:26.759 I kind of find myself migrating more towards the NFL. And as we've seen 83 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:30.040 them. We were talking about all these nil deals earlier and what's going on 84 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:34.120 with all the there Georgia and Florida. It's kind of like, wow, 85 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.600 I mean, this is bizarre. It's a bizarre place to be so, 86 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:41.639 but there are plenty of college football fans out there, and college football games 87 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:45.000 are not cheap to go to anymore. You can't just walk it. That 88 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:46.879 used to be the beauty of college football. You know, you can walk 89 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.600 up as a little bit cheaper tickets warning so much. But the good folks 90 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:55.959 at was his Odds Pedia came out with the cost of some of these football 91 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:00.279 games. For example, they've gotten no this is last year because and come 92 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.319 out with a new list before the season starts. The average cost to go 93 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:08.160 to a Louisville Cardinal football game one hundred and eighty dollars. Wow, I 94 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.720 can bet that's probably gonna be a little bit more. That surprises me. 95 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.240 That's gonna be a little bit more this year, because well, and what 96 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.319 they factor in this is how they do it. They break it down two 97 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:23.600 tickets, parking, two beers, two hot dogs, and yeah it's two 98 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.199 beers. No, that makes sense. Two ticket price. No, no, 99 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.519 no, this is just what it would cost. Let's just say you 100 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.079 go out there and get a couple of beers and you want to go to 101 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:31.720 the game. So right now, they got the Louisville Cardinals at about one 102 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:36.519 hundred and eighty dollars. I had Kentucky dollars up here. Oh here's Kentucky. 103 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.759 Kentucky's at one fifty four, which that surprised me. I thought Kentucky 104 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:46.600 be a little higher. Alabama only one fifty eight. This is one fifty 105 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.360 eight. Now these are face value stuff. Okay, most because they're saying 106 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:53.920 right now, two tickets to an Alabama Crimson Tide game. They're saying seventy 107 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:58.639 eight dollars. That's face value. Now, that might be you're going to 108 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.720 see them against say north Way Central Baptist Texas. Yeah, that kind of 109 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.240 stuff. You know, you go to see them. The most expensive ticket 110 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:10.120 on the item, they're pointing the Wisconsin Badgers one hundred and sixty dollars for 111 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.839 two tickets. And so I'd have to go in and take a look and 112 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.879 see what would all their I like to do this with studies. I like 113 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.839 to go in and see. Oh, I stand correct that that wasn't the 114 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:26.079 most expensive. The most expensive ticket out there is the Oklahoma Sooners two hundred 115 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.439 and six dollars. And this will be the first year with Oklahoma and the 116 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.639 SEC. So there's that added intrigue. That's right, And dude, can 117 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.839 I cannot get used to and I was. I grew up a big ten 118 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:40.959 guy. I cannot get used to USC and UCLA making that trip. And 119 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.279 then you also have Oregon and Washington part of that group too, like the 120 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:47.560 conferences, and I know that they've talked about there was at least rumors a 121 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:53.040 few months ago that the Big Ten and the SEC are kind of under the 122 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:59.439 table discussing eventually becoming their own league and just kind of being two super conferences. 123 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.839 Yeah, everybody else will get left behind if that ever becomes a reality. 124 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.399 I don't really know what college football is gonna look like. That's my 125 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:11.720 point. Yeah, you kind of validate my point, and that is if 126 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.199 college football is. But but that said, there's a whole new generation coming 127 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.399 through that that's all they're gonna know when it comes to college football. Yes, 128 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.120 for example, I came in. My dad used to brag on the 129 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.120 Big Eight. Here, you aren't played football they do in the Big Eight. 130 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.519 I'm like, Dad, what is the Big Eight? I don't get 131 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.799 that. And so, so you know, there's a whole generation. This 132 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.279 is all they know. And as I try to tell Tony Cruz in the 133 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.519 morning, there's a whole group of people who get paid a lot more money 134 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.960 and are a lot more educated to make this business decision than we are. 135 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:46.960 It's real easy for us to kind of sit back and go, like me, 136 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.799 I had the same thing. I'm like when I first heard USC was 137 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:52.639 going to be in the Big Ten, and they're gonna make that trip back 138 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:58.320 and forth and oh in two. For those of you who think whether kids 139 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.039 from southern California playing in the Midwest cold, Oh that's that's gonna suck. 140 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.120 No, these guys know how to they can ball out. They can ball 141 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.600 out in any weather. It's got nothing to do with it. It's got 142 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.120 nothing to do with it. That's West USC's played Notre Dame every single year. 143 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.960 They go out to South Bend. Yeah, they dude, I've watched 144 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.519 you know, when I lived down the West Coast, I was kind of 145 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:22.279 I liked watching the pac twelve. I liked I enjoyed watching man USC would 146 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.559 go to stadiums like el go up and they play Washington State, and it 147 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.960 is just brutal up there. I mean, at least in the Pacific Northwest, 148 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.440 if it's cold and it's rainy, it's it's Seattle kind of cold and 149 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:33.840 rainy. It's got a cool vibe to it. Man, you go to 150 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:35.960 you go to like Pullman and you play Washington State. This is a nasty 151 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.279 cold. I mean it's a nasty cold and nasty rain. These guys know 152 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.919 how to ball out, them them going to cold weather clients. That's why 153 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.799 I never bought the argument where well, the SEC can't win when they come 154 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.200 north. No, they can win when they come north. It's it's kind 155 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.600 of undo with it, guys. I will say, though, it's gonna 156 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.720 be really cool when it comes to the college football Playoff next year because the 157 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.840 opening round games will be on campuses. That's right. So you do have 158 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.159 the chance that a team like in Alabama or an Auburn may go up and 159 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.960 travel play to Michigan or Wisconsin. Yeah, and in December when you're playing 160 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.960 these playoff games, the weather can be unpredictable. I guarantee you none of 161 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.960 these schools have ever played in the snow in you know, in this kind 162 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.440 of environment because they don't play that late in the season like that. Now, 163 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.200 I will tell you college hockey in their conference tournaments made that transition to 164 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.039 your point. They used to play their conference tournaments and venues for example, 165 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:31.120 where like a Michigan and Minnesota would play, they'd either play it at the 166 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.720 time Joe Louis Arena in Detroit or they play at the Excel Center in Minnesota. 167 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.080 Well, what was nice was they they figured it out and they go, 168 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.840 you know what, let's play these on campus. Because one they're more, 169 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.399 they're they're better attended. You play them on campus, you're gonna sell 170 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.759 them out. And like you said, when you do the college playoff, 171 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.440 because who's got the money to I mean, let's say your team gets into 172 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.840 the playoff, can you do you travel there? That's what people were faced. 173 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:58.440 I was listening to that with the when Michigan was playing. Everybody's like, 174 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.720 well we do do we go watch the first game? You know we 175 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.159 want to? Or do we go? And we watched the second game? 176 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.600 Can we afford to make these trips like we did before? And at least 177 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:11.840 and two from what I saw this we were talking while we were talking about 178 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.600 the finances of sport. One thing I did notice that I took away when 179 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.320 I was at the PGA is that money is no object for a lot of 180 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.759 people. And maybe it was just it was the PGA, but I'm looking 181 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.200 at In fact, I was talking with Ian Vercheres. He was telling me 182 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:31.080 what he bought tickets themselves. He just bought. They bought their own tickets, 183 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.759 a couple of tickets where they had the all inclusive food and he was 184 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.120 telling me what he paid for him and I was like, holy cow, 185 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:43.759 it was crazy what they paid for him. So people have the money to 186 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.000 spend when they want to spend, and I think, you know, people 187 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.240 will make that trip. So I don't know, dude, you know you 188 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.279 look at I'm looking at some of these other stadiums, like Nebraska for example. 189 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.360 Yeah, some of the stadiums, the ticket prices are more than the 190 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:00.440 beer. Some of the beers are pretty expensive. But like in Nebraska, 191 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.080 you'll pay one hundred ninety dollars for two tickets and your parking is twenty five 192 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.639 dollars. At Georgia Tech, you'll pay one hundred and seventy four dollars for 193 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.519 tickets and your parking is only ten dollars. So and these are these are 194 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:16.080 rough gest demates. But let's be honest, you'll spend a pretty penny no 195 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.799 matter where you go, no matter where you go to see a game, 196 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.480 because chances are you're not buying the tickets at face value. You're probably buying 197 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:28.320 them off a resale site. And you know, it's just a matter of 198 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.840 how bad you want to see that event, and people will pay it. 199 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.559 And you and I talked about this. I believe on Oaks Day, Scott, 200 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.639 when people make these kind of trips. It's not necessarily about the game 201 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.480 anymore, right, It's about the experience that they're going to have while they're 202 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:43.679 there. And that's why you see so many of these newer stadiums and even 203 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.360 older stadiums that are being refurbished. They're adding all these extra bells and whistles 204 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:52.279 to kind of make it a more unique experience for people who or maybe they're 205 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.600 seeing these teams play for the first time in these stadiums. Yeah, yeah, 206 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.720 right, And when you watch I was watching some of the debates that 207 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.879 came out of Michigan Stadium, for example, for the last couple of years, 208 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.639 they now are putting a DJ in and as opposed to the band that 209 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.600 would always play you still hear the band. Yeah, okay, but it's 210 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.879 not like it was before. And you can kind of see almost this this 211 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.559 culture clash in sports going on right now, much like we saw in real 212 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.480 life. And there's some sports fans that are like, you know, people 213 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:26.559 are having a hard time AT's say, for example, Wrigley. They're saying 214 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.320 it looks like it's just a billboard. It's a giant billboard. But then 215 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.519 again, there's a generation of people that are coming up through that, that's 216 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.879 all they're going to know. And what we found out in sports now it's 217 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.240 all about marketing. In fact, it's interesting because my son is doing the 218 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:46.840 sports sports business program at Xavier and when we picked up his books last year, 219 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.559 there's this big, old, thick book on sports marketing and one of 220 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.440 the well I was picked it up and I started thumbing through it and was 221 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.200 reading it and one of the case studies was the New Zealand All Blacks, 222 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.679 the rugby team, and how they've really just become a marketing machine. They 223 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:07.000 went through a stretch where they were really, really good and they talked at 224 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:11.720 length about it's not about the fan anymore. It's about making the money. 225 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.559 And not just in New Zealand, mind you, it's about making the money 226 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.600 worldwide. It's about the TV rights. And a perfect example of that is 227 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.360 Churchill Downs. I've been here now for twenty a little over twenty six, 228 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.159 twenty seven years. When I moved here, it was still the two dollar 229 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:31.360 window Better that was running the show out there. So I've watched Churchill Downs 230 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.919 go through this transformation, and believe me, I heard everybody calling the media 231 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:39.840 and complain and they're funneling out the two dollars winter or two dollars better. 232 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:43.679 But you look at what they've built and look what it's come to now. 233 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.600 And you have a facility out there, as we mentioned on Oaks Day, 234 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.000 that is built strictly for just two days out of the year. Who does 235 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:54.080 that? Who builds a venue? And that venue probably rivals some of the 236 00:14:54.120 --> 00:15:00.000 best college football stadiums in the world. So it's all about marketing. Sports 237 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.639 is a business now unless you can get yourself down to some of the lower 238 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.799 levels of college like I can guarantee you. Let's say you want to take 239 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.679 in a football game at Center College here in Kentucky, down there near Danville, 240 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.679 You're gonna get the full on Saturday college football experience down there, as 241 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.759 opposed to if you want to go to say I've been to I've been to 242 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.360 a game, a UCLA game at the Rose Bowl. Okay, I've always 243 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.399 wanted to go to the Rose Bowl game itself. I've never been able to 244 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.399 go, but when we lived in San Diego, we'd make the drive up 245 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.720 by five. I saw UCLA play Miami. I've seen them play Michigan there. 246 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.200 It's just a different vibe and you look at the business and the corporate 247 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:41.440 suites. Think about that, there's an entity stands to gain more money from 248 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.759 somebody who's buying a massive corporate box as opposed to you and I walking up 249 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:48.759 buying a couple of seats and we can have a couple of hot dogs. 250 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:50.440 And in fact, when we go to break I'm gonna look up Crypto dot 251 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.080 Com Arena just had a new stadium experience that day, and just this ungodly 252 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.399 amount of money that you had to pay to get this experience for what you 253 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.039 got. But if you're a big company and you can afford it, that's 254 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.879 who these businesses are going to cater to. And you can see us kind 255 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:11.360 of strain into that territory. Take, for example, Levi Stadium out in 256 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.960 San Francisco. If you look at one side of it, there's all the 257 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.240 seats, of course, but if you look at the other side, it 258 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.320 looks like the front end of a beachfront hotel because it's nothing but suitets and 259 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.679 you know, luxury suites and boxes in media area, so that you can 260 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:29.279 kind of sat Ford Field. I noticed that same way we watched the draft 261 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:33.639 from ford Field. One side of ford Field is nothing but boxes and then 262 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.759 they of course had the stadium seating. You're seeing some stadiums come down and 263 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:44.879 shrink their stadium seating a little bit because the average person is going to walk 264 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.080 up and buy a ticket like you and I, they're not making as much 265 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.879 money. In fact, my buddy, who's the season ticket holder for the 266 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.440 Detroit Lions, told me he was telling me all the things they had to 267 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.120 go through, how they marked up their prices and anymore. Now, I 268 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.679 said, can anybody literally walk up to Ford Field game day and just buy 269 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.440 a ticket to get in? He said, probably not, Probably not, 270 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.599 because everybody they're selling all the packages. That's crazy. Yeah, And then 271 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.799 you start getting into the you start getting into the whole resale market. Like 272 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:14.400 he was telling me how he negotiated price. He actually sold his tickets for 273 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.599 the Rams Lions playoff game just he said, There's no way I could have 274 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:21.599 turned down the money I got for these. There's no way. My wife 275 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:23.440 would kill me and I would kill myself, he said. I started thinking 276 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:26.640 what people were paying, so there's always going to be somebody out there who's 277 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:32.400 paying is I was watching people drinking high fisting high noons at the PGA. 278 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.640 Those things were like fifteen bucks a pop, fifteen seventeen bucks a pop, 279 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:41.039 and I'm thinking this is a can of Seltzer at five percent five percent alcohol, 280 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:44.759 and people are just double fisting. And then we went into the Pro 281 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.759 Shop, of course, at the PGA Tour Shop, which don't get me 282 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:49.960 wrong, they had some awesome stuff in there. I mean, I'm a 283 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:52.559 big fan of like the forty seven gear all that stuff. They make. 284 00:17:53.519 --> 00:18:00.359 The stuff inside the Pro Shop like expensive, but it was selling because my 285 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.759 son's birthday is coming up and he wanted one of the polos, and that 286 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:04.039 to dude, I just do not have one hundred and twenty bucks on me 287 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:08.000 right now to buy you a Polo. But yet you go online and you 288 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.960 can get him. But you go back and you look at the prices that 289 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:17.000 are there, and then they put everything fifty percent off. The next day, 290 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.000 my wife said she went out there, there was nothing left and that 291 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:25.119 was when they started today, so they sold everything out there. So anyway, 292 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.359 sports is the experience. If you can afford it, it's great. 293 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.759 If you can't, somehow you'll find a way to afford it. If you 294 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.200 really want to see your team. I'm Scott Fitzgeraldie is John Alden, we're 295 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:38.680 back after this in a five o'clock hour on Sports Talk seven ninety. Well, 296 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.680 not exactly coffee, maybe, I don't know how to say. Maybe 297 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:48.319 a light tea, maybe a the Fitzgerald with a spritz, right sprits, 298 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.680 Scott fitzdrol John Alden over there working hard for us, a for siate, 299 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.039 y'all. John's hard work getting me relegated here is we try to keep you 300 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.319 entertained on your way home. Appreciate that. By the way, to get 301 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:00.640 a text from mister Tony Cruise, John, we gotta be careful what we 302 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.920 say. He says he's listening and bumping. Oh he probably heard us, 303 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:06.440 didn't he. Oh, I know. He was very complimentary. He was 304 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.480 very thank you, mister Cruz. Ton We do love Tony Cruz Tony. 305 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.640 And now I'll be on the air at five o'clock tomorrow morning and we'll take 306 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.359 you home with sports. We have a lot to talk about a lot of 307 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.839 college baseball, kind of bring you up to speed as conference tournaments get underway 308 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.799 today again. Unfortunately, the Louisville Cardinals pretty much they're gonna need a lot 309 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.400 of help if they're gonna make the NCAA Tournament this year, they fall to 310 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:32.680 Miami eight to five. Action elsewhere at the ACC Tournament in Charlotte, it 311 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:37.799 is Florida State tenth right, Florida State the five seed up now on nine 312 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.480 seed Georgia Tech top of the eight through up eight to six. Taking you 313 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.559 over the SEC tournament, it was ten seeds South Carolina upsetting seven seed Alabama 314 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.559 ten to five. And the other game that's gonna get going in just a 315 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:55.000 little bit that is going to be Vanderbilt and Florida. So long story short, 316 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.240 we're gonna have the Kentucky Wildcats for you tomorrow ten fifteen. Darren Edwick 317 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:02.359 will hit the airway here on Sports Talk seven ninety. They're gonna take on 318 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.319 LSU in that one. As Kentucky moves on with their magical season, boy 319 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:10.200 have they been on a tear again. Takes me back to as John you 320 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:14.519 mentioned back in February. That's when the college baseball season started, and I 321 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:18.119 remember talking about Kentucky beating USC Upstate and here they are lo and behold the 322 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:23.119 second ranked team in the nation. The SEC Baseball Tournament is going to get 323 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:29.440 very very interesting down the stretch. The big question is is Jeff Melby and 324 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:33.359 I were talking about can the Kentucky Wildcats hold serve? Can they be as 325 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:37.599 consistent as they were throughout the year. There is a lot of good talent 326 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.880 right now in the SEC, to include the nation's number one team, the 327 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.079 Tennessee Volunteers. Then of course you have Arkansas, you have South Carolina. 328 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.079 So a lot of moving parts going on right now at the SEC tournament, 329 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.160 and we'll continue to follow that storyline again. We'll do it at five o'clock 330 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.160 in the morning. I'll have all the scores of the recap coming up at 331 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.519 the ACC Tournament. After Georgia Tech and Florida State, seven o'clock tonight is 332 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:04.640 going to be Virginia Tech and Duke, and then coming up tomorrow it will 333 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.240 be Virginia taking on Georgia Tech, Pitt and wake Forest, NC State in 334 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:12.039 Virginia Tech, and then that's all. This is all pool play. Of 335 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:17.359 course, Louisville will play again Thursday three o'clock against Clemson again. They're going 336 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.000 to need some help if they're going to make some noise, that's for sure. 337 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:22.359 But we got a lot of other sports to talk about. The Reds 338 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.079 are back at it tonight boy, they find themselves in a predicament. They're 339 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.680 eight games out, dead last in the National League Central After there was so 340 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.279 much promise for the Reds coming into the season. A lot of people thought 341 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.759 the Reds were going to capitalize on their great run. They're taking on the 342 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:41.319 San Diego Padres not to be along the banks of the Ohio. Another stadium 343 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.519 I love to go to is Great American Ballpark. And you know, a 344 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.680 couple of years ago, my son was he was looking at UC and Xavier, 345 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.839 and I took him to a Reds game. And the nice thing, 346 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.359 John, we were talking about ticket prices. When your team is horrible, 347 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:59.119 you can get good tickets. Oh yeah, you can sit probably anywhere you 348 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.160 want. I had never sat behind the dugout, and we were able to 349 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.960 sit behind the dugout because they were so bad. But you know, if 350 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.079 it's your team, you love it well. And I've noticed this too, 351 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:12.079 specifically with baseball. With teams that aren't doing well, those stadiums are empty. 352 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.279 I remember seeing a photo of Bush Stadium for Saint Louis earlier this year, 353 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:18.240 and they're not having the best of seasons in that place looks like a 354 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.880 ghost town. It does it does. And in Saint Louis is a place 355 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.680 where and I mentioned this with Tony when we were on the air before, 356 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.160 I love going to sports towns where the fans are sports smart. You don't 357 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.319 have to be good, but you just have to be sports smart. And 358 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:37.240 it's for example, Saint Louis is one of those towns. Like baseball fans 359 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.319 in Saint Louis know that game and even when they are teams down, when 360 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.920 the chips are down, they know the game. Some of the non sports 361 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.440 smart towns I've been to, I hate to say it, but Nashville I 362 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.079 believe. Oh dude, as a hockey fan, you get down there for 363 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.440 a hockey game, it's that vibe. I talked to a good buddy of 364 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:57.119 mine. He's a Flyers fan, he grew up in Philadelphia. We talk 365 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.920 a lot about hockey together. He says the same thing. I go down 366 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.240 there when the Flyers play. Those fans don't know anything about hockey, but 367 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.039 yet they kind of act like we're and we're both annoyed by their goal. 368 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.559 Song it's the I like it. I love it by tim Ercall and it's 369 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:12.519 like every time they turn that thing, I say, oh my god, 370 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.079 I said, if I heard that damn thing one more time. But you 371 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.960 know, you look at some of the other sports smart fans that are out 372 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.599 there. For example, my bucket list, I want to go to a 373 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.559 Steelers game. I think Steeler fans are They're everywhere, They're everywhere. You're 374 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:30.039 right, John, you can go to one of their games and if they 375 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.680 complain. There's some fans that complain And I'm kind of like, seriously, 376 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.759 but I mean Steeler fans, I get it. I totally get it. 377 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.160 You know, you start looking at some of the other football fans around. 378 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.559 The one team that I struggle with because I'm being a Lions fan. You 379 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.640 grow up and you're like, they just they've sucked your whole life, and 380 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.599 so you know, you find another team to get in their camp. Well, 381 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.400 it was the it was the nineteen eighty one season, nineteen eighty ninety 382 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:59.319 eighty one season where I got to know Lester Hayes for the Oakland Raiders and 383 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.480 he was the one that wore that stick them on his hands and he'd be 384 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:04.000 there picking off that stick of them. And I think it was it was 385 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.160 the year they went when the Hostages came home, they went to the Super 386 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.200 Bowl against the Eagles, and I just fell in love with the Raiders. 387 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:11.720 I fell in love with the mistake. I fell in love with, you 388 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.759 know, just everything about the team, and so I kind of Quase followed 389 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:17.680 me and then we lived on the West Coast. We would see him play 390 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:21.319 the Chargers when they came to town, and I mean it was it was 391 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:26.200 fun. But Raider fans in Oakland are sports smart. Raider fans in LA 392 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:32.039 not so much. Raider fans in Las Vegas. They're just everybody flying in 393 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:37.480 from Oakland on Southwest. When it comes to the NBA sports smart fans. 394 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.920 I will tell you this having witnessed it, and we had people who lived 395 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:45.480 in an apartment next to us. LA Laker fans, hands down, hands 396 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.519 down. People talk about the West Coast all the time. All those fans, 397 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.680 they don't care. They don't care. True, it is a different 398 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.720 vibe on the West Coast because you can get up and watch NFL games at 399 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.279 ten in the morning and then watch the late game at one o'clock and you 400 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.319 get the whole afternoon back to yourself. But when it comes to LA Laker 401 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:06.079 basketball and you want to talk NBA, I'll take a Laker fan up over. 402 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.240 Maybe maybe not so much a Celtics fan, because I think Boston Celtics 403 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:11.839 fans know it. But I think when it comes to the NBA, there's 404 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:18.640 no fan base that's more smorts, sports smart than Laker fans. And it's 405 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.319 just it's how it is. And you know, and for a while, 406 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:25.640 you start looking at some of the different venues. When when it came to 407 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.319 college basketball, for example, you know Kentucky you can't. I mean, 408 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.400 it's blue blag Kentucky fans no college basketball, and you talk to them and 409 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.799 Robal Reaside, I get it, Rober Reeaside. I'm just telling you from 410 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.240 an outsider's perspective looking in and for what I've seen over the last twenty something 411 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.839 years, Kentucky fans no basketball, Duke fans no basketball. You can hate 412 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.200 Duke fans slowly, come home. North Carolina fans no basketball. You just 413 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.680 you get that in different venues. And what I like to do is I 414 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.880 go to a ballpark and I don't open I'm not like my stepdad. I 415 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.480 just I don't start talking to people at random. But once in a while, 416 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.440 you'll get into conversations with somebody at a ballpark like that, or a 417 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.400 stadium or a venue, and you'll start talking to him and I kind of 418 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.039 enjoy that to some degree. They'll see that you're wearing the opposing gear and 419 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.039 they'll be like, oh, you guys did this, you guys did that, 420 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:14.920 and then you started exchanging stories and it's kind of fun. I mean, 421 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.759 so you know, you take it for what it is and you watch 422 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.759 it when it comes out and you go to the games. But you're gonna 423 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.000 pay. Now, as we were talking about John, You're gonna pay and 424 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.599 ye, people just can't afford it like they used to. And let me 425 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.920 tell you, while you're still on fan base, is one franchise or team 426 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.920 I've never ever met a fan from is the Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh I got 427 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.599 a story, Yes, let me tell you about that. My son's girlfriend 428 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.559 went to She lived just outside Jacksonville. He flew down there last year a 429 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.240 couple of years ago and spent some time down there with her, and he 430 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.640 had a chance to look around. He said the same thing. He's like, 431 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.880 I can see why they wanted to move the football team to London. 432 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.519 It's just super weird. I mean, they don't have any other professional teams 433 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:59.480 that I'm aware of. No, No, And the biggest news coverage they 434 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.519 got over the past four or five years is when Urban Meyer was their coach 435 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:04.960 for like three seconds. And it was horrible. It was a horrible experience. 436 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:07.319 And that's why it's very interesting. We we're talking about all the games 437 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.400 they are gonna play in, and the NFL is going to play in Europe 438 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.400 this year, and the Jaguars are back to London and there's serious talk about 439 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:21.599 moving that team to London because the fan base appreciates him. My question, 440 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:26.200 and I brought this up in the morning before, My question is how long 441 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.079 would that sugar rush last? We've all seen because they their football is not 442 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.119 our football. No, No, we've all seen it. We've all seen 443 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.200 teams. We've all seen teams come in. We've all seen you know, 444 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.200 and everybody has a sugar rush over it. I was elated when the Louisville 445 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.319 Panthers were here. They're basically the Triple A affiliate for the Florida Panthers, 446 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.680 who are in the Eastern Conference finals in the NHL. That was big time 447 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.480 hockey. Everybody geeked it for a while, and then after a while and 448 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.599 in two you have to win. We saw that with lou City. And 449 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.160 when lou City came in and hit the ground running and started winning from the 450 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:06.200 get go. Fortunately, their wins lasted them long enough that they kind it's 451 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.960 kind of like planting a tree that you plant that base and then you continue 452 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:12.480 to go out so you can sustain. Like this last season they had where 453 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.640 they weren't they weren't winning all that. Well, Racing Louisville comes in, 454 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.799 they get they have some moderate success. What helped them was all the players 455 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.559 playing in the World Cup at the same time, where women's sports popularity is 456 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.680 growing at a fever pitch, and you've got a recipe for a good following, 457 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:30.880 and that's what you're seeing with Racing Louisville. And as we were talking 458 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.799 with Jeff Milby, going up against the best in the NWUSL the past weekend 459 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.880 and having a draw, that's going to solidify what you do. Now, 460 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:42.720 nobody expects anybody to come in and be winners instantly and all of a sudden 461 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.680 pack of stadium full of people. That's just not gonna happen. You just 462 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.160 have to build it. Then two, I had an interview with Kyle Petty. 463 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.559 He was in for that charity ride he did. Here we were talking 464 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:57.480 about racing and motor racing, motorsports, and see everybody I've noticed from NASCAR 465 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.960 fans that's another thing. Fans expect. Everybody wants every game to be three 466 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.799 and two, two outs, bottom of the ninth. That's just not going 467 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.880 to happen. And NASCAR fans can sometimes be the worst for that. And 468 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.240 when NASCAR was going through that sort of dry spell, remember they were getting 469 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.960 like three hundred thousand fans at a race and then they went through that dry 470 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.400 spell. And as we saw Kentucky a couple of times, everybody's like, 471 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.440 oh, these stands are empty, nobody's there. Well, I mean it's 472 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.160 because everybody wants that perfect ending to a game. And you almost have to 473 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.759 wonder has that somehow been ingrained into us in this I want it now society. 474 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.640 We have look at our stats. You know you got to get up. 475 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.519 You want your stats right away. I'm guilty of it. There's been 476 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:37.799 times because I can't stay up Lake because I have to get up so early, 477 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.480 but the Wings will be playing a late game and I want to know 478 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:42.160 the score when I get up. It's the first thing I do is go 479 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.400 to Google and I just type in Detroit Red Wings. I can't even wait. 480 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.559 I gotta have it now. And then I don't even go into well, 481 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.039 how the game go. It's just I looked at the score and they 482 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.400 won. So the question is, you know, if you're going to why 483 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:03.319 do we have fans our fans attention span shorter when they're losing. Now, 484 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.400 you look at the Louisville Bats, for example. They came in last year, 485 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.559 they made a nice run at the iOS title. They were getting crowds. 486 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.640 I was talking to a couple of season ticket holders that were there. 487 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.799 But if you've been to a Bats game and they're not winning, especially in 488 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.759 the middle of the week, there's nobody there. But we all want that 489 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.599 mentality. We all want that. We want it now. So the question 490 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.039 is, and you ask yourself as a sports fan, how long is your 491 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.119 sports mentality? I was taught a hard lesson with the Lions recent success. 492 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.000 You know, when I'm one, you jump off that bandwagon, you can't 493 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.799 get back on right away. Some people do. I'm not built like that, 494 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.319 you know. And when Michigan made a run at the National Championship, 495 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.359 everybody's like, oh, you're happy. I said, guys know, because 496 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.440 I spent a whole year time you high migrated towards the NFL and my grade 497 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.240 off college football. I can't be run around putting the Michigan gear on and 498 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:52.680 say the only Michigan gear I put on now is probably hockey. Year. 499 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.240 You look at other sports that they do that, and oh, I know 500 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:03.839 what it was. When louisvillelay Michigan in the NCAA Tournament, I was like, 501 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.400 who who are you rooting for? I was not a room for Louisville 502 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.680 fan. A Louisville fan by proxy. My wife's a Louisville fan, my 503 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.759 son's a Louisville fan. It's Michigan ban no. Because and this goes back 504 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.279 to my high school days. I could show you pictures of Chrysler Arena when 505 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.480 Michigan was horrible. Michigan fans are the worst when it comes to basketball. 506 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:25.359 That's why it was almost comical watching them during that twenty thirteen run against Louisville. 507 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.440 They're all out there and they're Michigan gear and they're rooting and they're cheering. 508 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.839 And don't get me wrong, there are some devoted Michigan basketball fans, 509 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.119 but that's a football school that is also you saw it first hand this year. 510 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.799 Juwan Howard had a horrendous season, obviously end up with him getting fired 511 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.440 in the end. But yeah, Michigan fans coming off of football national championship, 512 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.440 Yeah, the last thing they're going to care about is a terrible basketball 513 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:48.880 seat. You're right, you're right. And you know what brought that point 514 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.559 home, John was when Duke wasn't as good as well. I mean they 515 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.240 were good, but they weren't like dominating like Duke. But boy, Cameron 516 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.400 was packed. Cameron was packed every time Duke fans followed. So you know, 517 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:04.400 you look at these sports and they're just USC. This is the same 518 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:09.160 way when I lived on the West Coast, USC football is king supreme across 519 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:13.240 the board. USC had a couple of runs at basketball. Well, when 520 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.279 Bronny was playing out there, everybody come out and see Bronny. But boy, 521 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.400 when us any other time, there's nobody out there. So you know, 522 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.319 you have to wonder, and that's where you're blessed. Little I know, 523 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.279 Louisville's had a rocky road to go over the last few years. I 524 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.599 get it. I don't wish that on anybody because dude, there's nothing more 525 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.400 that you can say. It's only sports, and you can say to yourself, 526 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.039 you know, it's just a game. No, it's not. Let's 527 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.519 be honest. There are times where your team loses you're just not in a 528 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:44.160 good mood and it's a totally different vibe than when your team wins and and 529 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.680 you can't help it. Now, I'm not saying you're kicking the dog or 530 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.079 anything like that. I'm just saying it's a different vibe. I've seen people 531 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.839 come in to work in this building after a heartbreak game on a Monday, 532 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.519 if the game was on Sunday or a game was on weekend. They're not 533 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.160 pleasant to be around, and they're not screaming, and they're not you know, 534 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.640 they're not being overly mean to you, outright mean to you, but 535 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.279 you can tell that their team lost, and it's just a different vibe. 536 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.839 So it's it's an interesting dynamic, I guess in sports psychology, and I've 537 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.160 talked with doctor Pemberton about this a few times on the Saturday Show. What 538 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.000 gets us so emotionally wrapped up in our teams? I mean, John, 539 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.640 you when you went to Western, did you spend a lot of time on 540 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.240 the hill. Yeah, did you go to the basketball the football game? 541 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.400 I covered a little bit of football and basketball, and even even if you're 542 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.000 supposed to be neutral when you're covering it, right, And I'm good at 543 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.759 being quiet whenever I'm down on press row and that kind of stuff. But 544 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.920 it's one of those things like I remember seeing I was down in or Friskelms 545 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:40.559 at Fresno for the CUSA Tournament whenever they had Tavian Hollingsworth and that. Yeah, 546 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.400 and they lost. I believe it was to Old Dominion, who was 547 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.039 having a really nice run WKU I believe was the favorite at least in that 548 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:52.720 game for the c USA title. And just seeing them lose and being their 549 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.839 first hand to see the other team punch their ticket to the NAA Tournament. 550 00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.640 That's a bit of a gut wrenching thing to see when you're up that close 551 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.680 and personal to it, right, and it it hangs with you. Yeah, 552 00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.440 let's be honest, it hangs with you. And you're saying to yourself, 553 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.679 Okay, there's bigger fish to fry, first world problems. My team, 554 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.599 this, this and this, yeah, And on the flip side, 555 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.000 I've been on the flip side of that. You know I've been I've been 556 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.760 on the time where your team wasn't supposed to win. I'll give you an 557 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.559 example. This this run the Detroit Lions, mate, I mean, this 558 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:28.440 was unbelievable, and you you get excited, you get hyped in man, 559 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.800 when they lost that, I wholeheartedly thought they were gonna get blown out by 560 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.440 the forty nine ers, and I was part of me wish they would have 561 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.039 as supposed to hanging in the way they did. I mean, indeed, 562 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.119 if the Lions ever do make it to the Super Bowl, I'm I don't 563 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.639 know what I'm gonna do with my hands. I just I don't. I 564 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:50.119 don't know what life is going to be like. And but because you've been 565 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.159 down for so long, and you know there's there is I say, there's 566 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.119 some benefits being down for so long. But you know, I'm used to 567 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.840 turn on the TV. Okay, the Lions are up, or I'll go 568 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:01.760 out outside and put him on the radio and I'll listen, and they're up. 569 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.760 They'll lose it, they'll do this, this and this, and then 570 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.000 then you kind of go on. You feel dejected. But then you when 571 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.320 they win like this, and you're like God, don't let this go. 572 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:15.559 This can't be you know. But what gets us so consumed with sports? 573 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.320 Now we've seen the videos on social media. You've seen it where people have 574 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.280 lost it. Ohkay, Well, I think some of these busted TV video 575 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.519 stage, Yeah, and I think those are stage. Nobody's gonna break a 576 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.440 TV like that. Nobody's gonna break on. But I have seen some angry 577 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.320 people afterwards as well. All Right, we're gonna take our final break. 578 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.079 This has been a lot of fun, folks. When we come back, 579 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:37.800 we'll wrap things up. Gonna be back with you one more day tomorrow. 580 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.639 Coming up tomorrow, we're gonna talk some horses racing. Dudes are gonna be 581 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.920 with us. I'm looking forward to that conversation. Really looking forward to Darren 582 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.440 Heddrick because I love talking baseball, and we're gonna talk to him about the 583 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:53.079 success behind the Kentucky Wildcats after they open play at the SEC Tournament. So 584 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:59.320 maybe Darren'll either be truly elated or maybe he'll be a little dejected during out 585 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.119 that the Cats do. But he is John Olden, I'm Scott Fitzgroel. 586 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.760 We appreciate you riding with us on your way home and we'll be back after 587 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:10.679 this on Sports Talk seven ninety and welcome back. We're wrapping things up here. 588 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:14.360 I'm Scott Fitzgerald, he's John All in the big Thank you too, 589 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.800 of course, Will Clark and Jeff Milby for joining us today. I'm back 590 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.519 one more day tomorrow. This has been a lot of fun. Thank you 591 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.239 all for having me here. John, Thank you you made this so easy 592 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.719 for you. It has been a pleasure. And we'll have you on here 593 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:29.599 in the afternoon slot anytime. This is fun. This is fun. We're 594 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.039 gonna have Darren Headrick with us tomorrow, and we're gonna have the racing dudes 595 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.079 with us tomorrow, and then we're gonna have a little fun with John. 596 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.119 We're gonna play a little fun because it's a big motorsports weekend. Next weekend 597 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.679 is coming up weekend too. So hey for John Olden, I'm Scott Fitzgerald. 598 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.519 Thank you all for letting me spend some time with you. We'll talk 599 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.199 to you tomorrow afternoon and I'll be on the air with Tony Cruz at five 600 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.119 tomorrow. Have a great evening, everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.