WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:07.519 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jakin Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:13.480 fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions 3 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:18.800 katz R two side and iHeart Radio Station Yet. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.800 everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.800 I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jakin's also Welcome to a new week. The week, 6 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:30.000 the week. We've been waiting for this for since UCLA and USC left 7 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.200 conference. Do you think Jed has been waiting for this week? Yeah? 8 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:38.119 You know, you can tell that they're excited. They feel like they got 9 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.439 something, you know, some good stuff happening, and this is the way 10 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.880 we start to find out. Well, we have a lot of clips, 11 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.880 but today, let's let's talk about who we have on today, Okay, 12 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:51.640 because it's a big day. Yeah, so many you've heard and maybe some 13 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.039 of you didn't because I know I talked top people to day who didn't. 14 00:00:54.479 --> 00:01:00.799 But a su self imposed a ball band yesterday and people lost their minds rightly. 15 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.799 So, so we're gonna have Hoade Robino, who's been on our show. 16 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.159 He's the publisher of Devil's Digest one of the fans sites up at as 17 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:11.359 U two get a reaction from him and see how fans are reacting up there. 18 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.040 But I can tell you it's not good, particularly for a couple of 19 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:19.000 guys named Michael Crowe and Ray Anderson the president and a d at au So 20 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.680 who was losing their minds. Fansy, well, fans are losing their minds. 21 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.640 Your ASU fans are losing their minds. But other people are saying, 22 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.719 what the hell were you doing all this time? And why did you wait 23 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:36.359 until now to impose this penalty on the people who are there and we're not 24 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.760 there when all this happened. You could have done this last year, when 25 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:45.480 when herm was still there and his coaches were still there and those players were 26 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.159 still there. You could have done it last year. They they they cleaned 27 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.239 house. And now the guys who were hung oh who hung around are the 28 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.760 ones getting punished. That's what people, And it's not just a SU people. 29 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.079 National media is going Ray Anders and you are a piece of crap. 30 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.040 Yeah, well, I understand that. I understand that, and it all 31 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.359 kind of makes sense. It will a lot makes sense a lot. You 32 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:08.080 don't do it at the time. I don't know, did you ever want 33 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.400 to do the same thing they imposed when coach was still here, Sean was 34 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.319 still there. But my whole thing is, Jay, I'm not going to 35 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.360 the problem this year. Yeah, I'm not going to the problem this year. 36 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.719 But I'm gonna band myself. It's gonna beout myself from going to the 37 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:23.199 problem. You know, when somebody said that, it said asked that asked 38 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.159 me that, saying, well, what's the big deal. They're not going 39 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.599 to a bowl game anyways? But you know what the players and coaches think 40 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:31.919 they can, right and it's a goal. Yeah, it's a goal for 41 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.840 them that they hang out there for these guys and say, Okay, this 42 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.159 is what we're shooting for. And they've taken that away from those guys, 43 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.599 and those guys shouldn't have had this taken away from. So we're gonna have 44 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:45.680 Hode robino on from a issue covers them under one of the great two websites. 45 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.120 I don't know he was. He may have been there when Dillingham was 46 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.639 talking. Did you see that clip? Uh? Some people said he was 47 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:55.960 very upset. I thought he's very candid actually, just kind of when talking 48 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.960 the coach, the coach talk what did I say. I didn't so, 49 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:05.680 so I don't know if he was upset upset, but he was very forthright 50 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.919 and what he discussed taking small jabs at whoever made a decision. Obviously he 51 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:15.000 was involved, he was not involved, but the powers that be kind of 52 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.520 can I screw people over? They do? And that was it was just 53 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.719 the stupidest thing, because you knew this was coming. You knew you were 54 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.599 in big trouble. They've got video of them breaking the rule. This is, 55 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.400 this is just this may not be enough. I mean, it's it 56 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.719 is for self imposement. But the other then might commit out here, and 57 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.439 well then you've also got other people saying, hey, wait, Tennessee committed 58 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:40.879 sewer violations and waited and didn't get a bullet. But what are you doing? 59 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.680 I mean, look, I I you know, I don't want to 60 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:46.960 be the one to say it. I love I like Michael Crowe. Okay, 61 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.840 I don't like any much about a SU but I like Michael Crowe. 62 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.319 I've dealt with him, you know, I've interviewed him, I've talked to 63 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:54.919 I like him, and I think he's done a lot of great things for 64 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:59.759 Arazem State University. But he may lose his job, but both of them, 65 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.960 Ray Anderson will lose his job at some point. He's might lose his 66 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:10.479 job because this was when you go back to his his involvement and being sort 67 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.759 of one of the causes of the PAC twelve conference dying. Yeah, okay, 68 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.040 and then this, well, when you piss off the when you piss 69 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:23.720 off the sports donors that you know, you can't piss those people off, 70 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.120 whether you're the president of the university or just like you can't. Over the 71 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.959 last few months, we've learned a lot about mister Crowe. Yeah. To 72 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:36.800 me, it sounds like a complete lack of awareness of how much athletics means 73 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:43.040 to a university like Arizon State. Whether you're not a sports if you're not 74 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.959 a sports page, you say, well, that's crap that it means that 75 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.560 much. Regardless of what you think, it means that much. Yeah, 76 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:53.639 you know, the front the front door or the front porch of the universe. 77 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.120 Just gonna say that, right many people think that, and rightly so 78 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.839 rightly so it's not about the academicsty you know it is, but it isn't. 79 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.800 But okay, so we have quote Rubino. The thing is they've been 80 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.560 in trouble for a while, then nothing's really happened, and then in the 81 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.959 second hour, we're gonna have a local guy, Michael lev who's done some 82 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.759 great job, a great job filling in for or replacing kind of Greg as 83 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:19.519 a columnist. I thought his column yesterday or today, I'm not sure when 84 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:25.720 it was published on the Doctor Blitz was fantastic. They went to ash Cruisis. 85 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:28.959 I hope they didn't pay any of my fines for me. Actually, 86 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.319 I hope they did pay some of my platform. They said, everybody there 87 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.680 knear you. Yeah, sure, sure they did. Yeah, is that 88 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:39.160 good coming back? But so it'll be fun football. Michael ran in the 89 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.959 in the in the Star as a daily start special section college football Special sect 90 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:46.720 Cancesterday he went through the He went through the twelve games Arizona, twelve games, 91 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.639 predicted a winner of each game, and he came out on the other 92 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.759 end up with them going seven and five. So he picked an upset that 93 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.879 you know, we know everyone's gotta gotta pull pull off a couple of upsets. 94 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.199 So we'll go through those games with him as well. So a lot 95 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.000 lots of talk about its game week. We're ready to go, man, 96 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.560 Okay, yeah, hell yeah, I will have a couple of clips here. 97 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.759 So do you have anything put into from today? We talked to Loot 98 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:14.800 Loot. Yeah, let's get right into that. Uh. You know. 99 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.600 He he just talked about how everybody's ready to go. Everybody's healthy, they're 100 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.879 they're they're excited, they're happy to not be hitting each other. But here's 101 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.639 what he had to say, just talking about his team headed into this game. 102 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.399 Our goal is to play really good football. Everybody's healthy, so I 103 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:38.399 would expect that all eighty five scholarship players we'll be ready to go. I 104 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.199 don't think there's a not that I can think of right now on our injury 105 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:47.800 list. So all eighty five players are ready, and we're expecting to have 106 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.680 a battle on Saturday night. We had one a couple of years ago. 107 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.560 I think our team's a little different than it was a couple of years ago. 108 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.800 I know their team is different. It seems as if there's been a 109 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:05.240 lot of transfers that have come and gone on both programs. But as he 110 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:10.120 continued to you know, watch their tape. What you do know is their 111 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:15.639 head coach is an outstanding defensive coach. I've known coach Paul for a while 112 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.399 or none of him, and he's been a Pac twelve defensive coordinator. And 113 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:25.759 they brought in a new defensive coordinator from BYU who's also done a great job 114 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.279 defensively over his time, whether that be at Oregon Stay, whether that be 115 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.639 at b YU and other places. And then they have the same offensive coordinator, 116 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:39.319 coach flew Grad that was there two years ago. I think he has 117 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:44.319 some history with some of our coaches from us D days. So it was 118 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.240 it'll be a good battle Saturday night, but our team is certainly excited about 119 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:54.160 the opportunity to get back on the field and you know, do a great 120 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:58.680 job at home. So I was gonna ask the question that Dave Kelly asked 121 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.120 right away. So I was, I screwed this question. What's the one 122 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.079 thing or two things you remember from that night of any of you outside of 123 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:11.560 the loss? That their third string quarterback was better than Arizona's first string quarterback. 124 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.480 That better, that was better than both of Arizona quarterbacks that played that 125 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.439 game. If that's what you remember, that's what I remember. Yeah, 126 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.319 and then you're being upset leaving the Oh I was so mad. Yeah, 127 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.199 I mean I was really mad after the seventy to seven game. But I 128 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.920 was at home, right, I was at home. I cracked open some 129 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:33.240 alcohol and you know, got over it. But I can't remember being more 130 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:39.440 angry leaving Arizona Stadium than I was that game that night. So let me 131 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.080 say for me, it was it was the post game interview when Jed came 132 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.519 in and he looked like death in the family. It was he was. 133 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.879 It was bad. It was bad. I'm thinking, and I'm thinking to 134 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.200 myself with weird we're masks. I'm thinking to myself, oh is he in 135 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.840 sober? Is he in over his head? And I'm thinking, holy crap, 136 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:58.279 because you don't do that, and that that is the thing that I 137 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.679 thought. I thought, you know, at that point, I thought as 138 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.279 going to make the right higher. But then I went to what David Kelly 139 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.240 was It was the first question, so immediately went to go to the NAU 140 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.080 game. It was was that the night you realize how bad it when you 141 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:15.840 have that. And here's here's what he had to say. Well, you 142 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.879 know I think that two years ago. Each week, you know, you 143 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.480 learn a little bit more about your team where they're at as a program. 144 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:31.279 Certainly, you know the last game in twenty twenty before we arrived, we 145 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.639 recognized that this program was not in a good spot. And then you start 146 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.600 losing a couple of the best players that played in that game or didn't play 147 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.080 in that game. But you know, with Brightwell going to the NFL and 148 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.559 Lopez going to the NFL, and then really the rest of the team, 149 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.519 uh that was back lived that loss and then lived a bunch of losses throughout 150 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.080 you know, their college careers. So yeah, I certainly realized what a 151 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:01.080 what a rebuild it was going to be. U we talked about all year 152 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.399 one. We called the year zero for a reason. We felt like we 153 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.960 had to strip it down to the studs start building it back up. I 154 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:13.080 thought last year we made good progress in the build and in that process of 155 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.120 trying to get better every single week, finished winning two out of the last 156 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.440 three last year, finished with some really good football players on the roster, 157 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.879 and then added some more good players. So I do believe we're in a 158 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:30.120 good spot this year going into this game and recognizing that two years ago, 159 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.080 uh, it's certainly a different team. Yeah. I think that's the whole 160 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:39.080 thing, right right. They have the total total revamp of the team you 161 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.159 think. You think, Jay, that this group of talented, more talented 162 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.159 players are much talented or better than what any of you has no right you 163 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.200 would like to think, yeah, because even on a bad day, even 164 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.000 two years ago, the one thing you think is Okay, everyone doesn't have 165 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.480 the quality of talent, but still better than any of you. Got pushed 166 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.200 around that It was just unbelievable. They got pushed around that night. It 167 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:09.799 was terrible. So Damian Alameda from k KA well D asked him the next 168 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.720 great question followed up that followed up that one with the next great question, 169 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:18.919 which was what do you remember about after the game any It was Jed's response, 170 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:28.600 well, you know, I think that I remember that I knew that 171 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.559 we had to find a way to get better fast, and that we had 172 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.279 to put that game behind us, as we have to put all games behind 173 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.720 us that we don't win. And I think the rest of that night went 174 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:45.200 into watching film and evaluating our talent and making decisions on what type of team 175 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:50.279 we have, what type of team, how resilient of players are they willing 176 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:56.320 to just see this game as one of twelve on the schedule, and were 177 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.960 they able to find a way to come back and play extremely hard the next 178 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.159 week, which they did. We spent our focus on that that evening and 179 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.240 all the other evenings. But yeah, you you you get to a point 180 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:13.159 that there was this lingering black cloud over the program of a losing streak and 181 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.000 of games that we didn't get a cut winning. We didn't win games that 182 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.559 we thought either A we could have won or be people expected us to win. 183 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:24.799 And unless you're in that locker room, unless you realize where we're at, 184 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.399 we were rebuilding it all and now I think we're in a place that 185 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.399 we have done a good job as a program. Our coaches have done a 186 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.960 great job of bringing good talent, and our players have done a great job 187 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.399 of learning our system. They've done a great job of taking care of their 188 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:48.879 bodies. Our training room was packed today of guys just getting ready for a 189 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.360 game week. And I just love the player's attitude right now. Yeah, 190 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.039 which is which is cool? Cool? I'm thinking after that first game, 191 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:03.279 are you thinking? I just remember Loot after getting into the practice and Pim 192 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.799 put in his heads in his hands, in his head and saying, what 193 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.360 the hell did I get myself into? I'm sure Jed felt that they had 194 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.919 to have felt that. But then on on the flip side, if you 195 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.240 think about okay, he says, okay, it's really bad, and so 196 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.399 it can only get better, right, right, But it didn't seem like 197 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.080 you could well did. Over the course of the season, you could tell 198 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.759 it was getting better, but it wasn't going to be great that year because 199 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.440 they just didn't have the guys, right, And then when they won the 200 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.159 Cal game with a depleted Cal team from COVID, you were just relieved that 201 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.840 they weren't going to go oh and twelve. That's all. That's all you 202 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.360 were happy about. They won the game. You weren't saying, Okay, 203 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.120 we're on the right track. You're just saying, at least they won a 204 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.600 damn game, and let's finish this season, move on to the next. 205 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.200 And then next year, of course, they did much improved. And I 206 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.679 think you're one of you're saying is you could tell why they sucked on offense 207 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.360 because they had no players on offense. They did yeah the first year, 208 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.039 but yeah, right, well, you know people were saying he's a terrible 209 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.799 play caller. Well, if you don't got players, you can't be a 210 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.360 good play call it, you know, and and you know the you know, 211 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.120 the quarterbacks from they will go back to pass. They look down the 212 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.600 field for one guy and then then then they'd either run or throw it, 213 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.279 throw it in the in the end to the side. So you know, 214 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.519 it's just that's just what they were, that's just what they had. You 215 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.519 know, I knew all this was gonna come up about Nau. Uh, 216 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.279 you know, because of the game, right of course, that we were 217 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.159 going to go back to this is what happened back in the day. But 218 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:35.159 you know, I think they can look that loss will always always be there, 219 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.960 just like seventy to seven. Loss will always be there. But you 220 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.559 know, baby and a su last year took some sting out of it. 221 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:45.399 I think if they handled Nau the way we all expect him to, it 222 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.039 won't be forgotten, but everybody will feel better about it. They're eighteen and 223 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:54.279 two against the right, don't make it eighteen and three back all right, 224 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.159 We're gonna take our break. Where to come back? 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Subscribe now 310 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.119 to the podcast on the iHeart Radio Whip Just Surgeon I on the Ball. 311 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.000 Hey, welcome back to One on the Ball you Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 312 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.200 I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakin's own snow and unfoll We have holed Robino from 313 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.799 Devil's Digest and Rivals. How are you holding. I'm very great, Stee, 314 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.160 thanks for having me out. WHOA wow, Well, a lot of 315 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.640 things going up in Tempe. You went to the press conference or the pseudo 316 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.480 press conference from the head coach a couple of days ago or yesterday? How 317 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:42.359 was that? Yeah, the press consence was actually yesterday. As you know, 318 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:48.519 Kenny Dellingham was informed at six thirty Sunday mornings from two hours before practice 319 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:55.680 was about to begin that day about the self imposed posts in band that Arizona 320 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.279 State that did place on itself is obviously League going back to the ends of 321 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:07.759 the investigation that started in May of twenty twenty one dealing with recruiting violation allegations 322 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:15.559 that did take PLA mostly through the twenty twenty season where there was an extended 323 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:22.599 recruiting dead period due to the club of nineteen pandemic, and Kenny was naturally 324 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.759 very very very upset about this. He did not did not see this coming, 325 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:33.160 obviously when you have Sundayed in the first practice of game of game week. 326 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.640 But this is an open nerdence four days away on Thursday. This is 327 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.400 definitely not the type of news that you do on here. I think Gillingham 328 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.440 has done a great job ever since surviving it to him be really changing the 329 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.920 culture, really able to energize the fan base. And this is exactly what 330 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:53.279 you would expect from an alumna's head coach to begin with. And it was 331 00:22:53.400 --> 00:23:00.559 definitely a very very deflating news for Arizona State for for invercation, any dealing 332 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.119 in particular to get this news. I mean, we all know about the 333 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:10.519 Friday news dumps. Sunday morning news dump is probably even more addressing. What 334 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:12.680 was you know, you're a fan, you run a fan site. What 335 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:19.279 was your your personal first reaction when you when this thing came out? Well, 336 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:23.359 my first reaction, and you know it's it's out there for everybody to 337 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.839 see on a column that I have on my front page. It's really the 338 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:32.440 dereliction of duty of athetic director Ray Anderson. And I know, maybe from 339 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.640 the outside looking in, when you say a headlong like that, when you 340 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:40.279 see that narrative, you think it's maybe humprobolic, you think it's just really 341 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:45.480 trying to be dramatic just because a dramatic statement was made that day. But 342 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.200 it's much more than that, and you know not to respond the article you 343 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:55.400 know verse my birth, But it basically comes down to the whole point of 344 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:02.720 the higher of herman Words by Ray Anderson and just reeked from nepotism from day 345 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.759 one. And as we know, her Edwards while he was head coach of 346 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:14.279 the NFL, was a client of agent Ray Anderson. So to say that 347 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.480 Anderson's judgment was really clouded, for lack of a better term, from day 348 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.880 one when it came to her Edwards and all the actions and more importantly in 349 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:27.759 actions that he took was really was really a narrative that you know, may 350 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:33.319 have started out as a conspiracy theory, but as the tenure of her Medwords 351 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.359 proceeded more and more, I mean, we just got to see that inaction. 352 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:45.119 Unfortunately, and when investigations started and may have twenty twenty one, it 353 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:52.559 does seem that Hermedwards was at teplon in other words, like all the violations 354 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.400 that took place, it was his assistance. He you know, he can't 355 00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:59.880 see evil or see an evil, and that was space to get a narrative 356 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:04.000 that we heard all throughout that season. In spring of twenty twenty two, 357 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:08.440 and this was told to me by a well placed source in athletic department Herm 358 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:12.440 Edwards, and I don't fault in for fooling that way. This was absolutely 359 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:18.559 fatigued by this ends of the delay investigation that is still on going out as 360 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.480 you speak, and obviously was still in effect back in twenty twenty two because 361 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:27.440 he basically SI, his defensive coordinator Zach Hill, and his defensive coordinator Antonio 362 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:33.799 Pierce was also the recruiting coordinator, resigned in a matter of thirty days or 363 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.160 less from each other. And obviously at that point of the season, there's 364 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.200 really anything else for you to sell. There's really no hope that can you 365 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:47.240 can cling on to even have a decent season. Now, Randison not accepting 366 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:52.359 her medwards resignation at the time, Okay, maybe it's a matter of you 367 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.880 know, he didn't have a suitable replacement and really didn't want to make a 368 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:02.400 bad situation worse. But the fact that that did not raise a red flag 369 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.119 right there, right then for Ray Anderson thinking ahead, thinking to what the 370 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.559 sanctions as a result of his investigation may or not be, and not self 371 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.839 imposed at Pusneason Band right there, right then, in the spring or even 372 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:22.200 summer of twenty twenty two, that is absolutely inexcusable, and the only exclusion 373 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.319 I can come up with that he just did not want to taint the legacy 374 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.079 of his good form Herm Edwards. And here we are. You have a 375 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:34.519 first year head coach in Kennedy Dillingham who had a long list of challenges to 376 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.480 deal with ever since he got hired in November of last year. But now 377 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.519 you're saddling him with the biggest challenge that he has on his plate, while 378 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:48.200 really by default absolving Herm Edwards that never had to deal with that challenge back 379 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.799 in twenty twenty two. There's so many tangles in this web here, right, 380 00:26:52.440 --> 00:27:00.000 So Ray hires Herm and Krow hires Anderson. Correct so, and we'll 381 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.240 get to both of those guys in a second. But the level of hate, 382 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:08.200 it's not the right word or distasting anger? What the fans are? 383 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.359 Ray? Is it? What eighty to twenty? What is? What's the 384 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:19.880 percentage? Steve? It's it's unfortunately and maybe not surprising, the fifty fifty 385 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:26.160 because because because I think that that people are quite mad about Michael Crowe just 386 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:32.000 really letting all this happening because they absolutely right. Ultimately, Ray Anderson does 387 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:37.559 report back to Michael Crowe. And it does seems that Ray Anderson is absolutely 388 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.319 letting HERM Edwards. It is staffed, does run rough shot you know, 389 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.160 you know, do you know, do whatever they want to do when the 390 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:51.279 consequence has come out. It's the assistance and the junior level staff was in 391 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:55.680 the recruiting department that the ones that are getting the boot. But but here's 392 00:27:55.759 --> 00:28:00.920 here's herm Edwards. Uh that it only took one of the world lost in 393 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.480 program history, I lost to Eastern Michigan in week three of last year to 394 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:10.759 finally have him in as few part ways. Oh and by the way, 395 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:15.480 he got a golden parachute of four point four million dollars. Now we have 396 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.799 to reduce buyout. Yes, but I don't think the AFU fan base really 397 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.960 really cares about this, and they just to say that Michael Crowe's the one, 398 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.359 the one that has to sign off on all this. And if we're 399 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.799 talking about the level of disdain to Michael Crowe, let's not forget this whole 400 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:34.200 fiasco of Arizona State wanting to stay in the Pac twelve and not wanting to 401 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.839 go to the Big twelve. This is all Michael Crowe. I mean, 402 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.799 that's one thing. Actually, I don't fault Ry Anderson at all, but 403 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.240 it's been well, it's been well documented that both the presidents of Arizona and 404 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:52.079 AFU had a whole different approach to departing the Pac twelve and going and going 405 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.519 to the Big twelve. So even if you thought that Michael Crowe was handling 406 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.880 everything okay when he came to Ray Anderson and the football program, I think 407 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:07.799 thinks the soap opera that didn't involve ASU wanting by the skin of their teeth 408 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.440 to actually stay in a dying conference at Pack twelve and not going to the 409 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:18.039 not going to the Big twelve really just created a lot of bit trail over 410 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.519 there. But but again it's you know, I don't think it's really a 411 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:26.440 better answer of who we should blame more Michael Crowe or Ray Anderson. I 412 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.519 think I think both of them have really been at fault with numerous actions and 413 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.480 maybe more importantly in actions when it comes to the athletic department and the football 414 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.200 program. Is the simple that said, you and many others immediately were calling 415 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.039 for Ray Anderson's head, And you know, but as you said, I 416 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:45.799 mean, is Michael Crowe in trouble. You know, we talked about, 417 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.759 Yes, it's a university, and he's the president of a university, and 418 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:53.079 there's a lot more to a university prettily won the size of a su uh 419 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.319 than athletics. But you know it's been said down here a number of times. 420 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.599 President Robin's down here, said and said a number and Dave que said, 421 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.400 athletics is off in the front parts of a university. Certainly is here, 422 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.759 Certainly is at ASU. Is Michael Crow in trouble with all of this? 423 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.759 Look, I think Jay, you really hit on the head in the 424 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.839 statement that you made through that question. To really dissements a university president, 425 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:26.960 they have to do a whole lot worse than bungle athletics than really not hold 426 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.720 the athletic director to account. This is going to be a lot more that 427 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.039 needs to take place. And look with that, with Everyzona state finally achieving 428 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:40.759 that AU status, getting that medical school that they fought decades to get, 429 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.240 with that happening earlier this year, to dismiss Michael protest a few months later 430 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.759 just because of how he handled or mishandled I should say athletics, that's nest 431 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.240 really not going to fly And look, I mean I have, as you 432 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.839 can tell a ready, I have a lot of criticism towards Michael crow a 433 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.240 lot of crisis and towards Ray Anderson, but most so realistic as far as 434 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:07.920 what personnel actions can ultimately take place. I cannot see the Arizona Border regions, 435 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.599 uh, really having Michael Crowe resigned, let alone flat out firing him 436 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.759 just because of how my handle's athletics it's gonna take. It's really gonna take 437 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.440 a lot more than that. And again you talk about the academic achievements and 438 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.680 give with the medical School being one of the freshest and most significant academic achievements 439 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:33.279 popping under Michael Crowe's watch, and I'm sorry that negates and then some and 440 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.079 he mishandling them take place with athletics. Okay, I actually like him, 441 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.240 so I mean, you know, but uh yeah, but this is this 442 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.359 is this is bad and this will linger. Sure, yeah, I do 443 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.319 agree, and and and I'm sure that folks that are displeased with Michael Crowe 444 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.119 when it comes to athletics, their voice is going to carry louder and further 445 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:02.920 more than any folks are really disappointed with how he handles an academics, how 446 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:08.119 he handles the growth of Arizona State. But again, I'm I'm just really 447 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.599 trying to be realist. I'm really trying to deal as much as possible with 448 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.000 facts and not trying to spin any narrative in one direction or another. I 449 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:24.839 have a hard time that the Arizona Border Regions would take any action against Michael 450 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.960 Krowe, even reprimand him if there's such an action in the by laws, 451 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.799 just because of what happened at Athletics. Now the Border Regions to make question 452 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.759 Macauel Crowe, hey, what's going on with Ray Anderson because we're seeing you 453 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.200 know, one, two, three, four five happening happening under his watch. 454 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.200 But I don't think the Border Regions would force Michael Crowe's hand to dismiss 455 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.279 Ray Anderson. And I said many times before that I don't see Michael row 456 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.680 taking any action in terms of parting ways that Ray Anderson before the Insulat investigation 457 00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.839 has concluded. Because guess what if folks were too pleased about the buyout that 458 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.240 Herm Edwards did get, You're can be pleased when Ry Anderson gets a buy 459 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.279 out because you cannot fire any of those individuals for cause, I e. 460 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:15.359 Not give him a buyout until you have that solid paper trail of a concluded 461 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:22.160 instant, the investigation and the kind of the consequences and the sanctions that the 462 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.799 doer rights from that. So until until everybody at that juncture, I think 463 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.519 you just have to be really careful about about you know what, you know 464 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.440 what you're wished for. But you know, if Michael Crow decides that he 465 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.200 doesn't care about the optics of the buyout and he cares more about just having 466 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:44.519 Trey Anderson part ways of Arizona States so the school can finally turn over the 467 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.839 next page, I mean, I don't know if any fans would really would 468 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.559 really be mad about him about Bath. But going to my earlier my earlier 469 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.680 point, there are a lot of Sun devel bands are not pleased at all 470 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.799 with how Michael core has been handling a fletic because I'd like to see him 471 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.880 down just because of a flitting. But I just don't think that's something that 472 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:07.280 is really considered a realistic or plausible scenario at this point. So we have 473 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:14.079 about ninety seconds left the stock football for a seconds, you remember that too, 474 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:16.920 What do you think they're gonna do. The over under for Vegas is 475 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.000 five, just like it is for Arizona. I find that kind of strange 476 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:28.079 given the situation. Yeah, I think that before the self imposed postseason ban, 477 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.800 I thought Arizona State winning six games when you have a home game, 478 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.599 when you have a couple of winnable road games, was really not the question. 479 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.239 And I know this is overstating the obvious, but how does Arizona State 480 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:43.199 really really deal with his adversity ensure a game against Southern Utah? I'm first 481 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.960 rather than not not really going to supply all the answers, but very two 482 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.000 challenging. None of the conference games, which again luckily for I was on 483 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.639 our set them at home, but at Oklahoma I'm sorry, against Oklahoma State 484 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.239 and against President State, those are going to those are going to tell you 485 00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.039 a lot. And then you've got mam AT's the home ging against against the 486 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:05.599 USC in late September. But yeah, I mean to your point, I 487 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.880 don't think that Arizona State winning winning six games and what would have been to 488 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.960 eligible up until Saturday, I don't think really that's that's out of the question. 489 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.920 But there's no doubt that as resilient as a lot of people think this 490 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.440 team is the resiliency is going to be tested very earli ever here in September 491 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:30.039 against some against the quality competition starting next week obviously. But again I don't 492 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.639 I don't think that even this postseason ban should really hurt it as this chances 493 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.639 of winning six games, but the burden approof is absolutely on them in a 494 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.400 major way. Well, Hold, it's always good to talk to you. 495 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.519 Very clear, good question, good answers. We'll see you soon if you 496 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:50.400 want to read holde Devil's digest right on rivals dot com. Yes, sir, 497 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.559 all right, thank you, Oh, thanks so much, appreciate it. 498 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.400 Man, thanks, thanks, all right, good no, good stuff, 499 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.960 good stuff, very candid stuff. Well, you know, and look, 500 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.280 that's why I asked that, you know, the micro quoting. I've 501 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.519 been thinking since yesterday that microcro is in big trouble because you can't piss off 502 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:08.360 the sports, the athletics boosters because because they have they bring so much money 503 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:13.920 into the athletic department and athletics do. The Ray Anderson hiring has been a 504 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.679 disaster from the beginning. Right, everybody thought it was great when he brought 505 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.400 in HERM Edwards. He had a good first season, but it's big crap 506 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.000 since then, on top of the cheating stuff, on top of he didn't 507 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.840 want to be there, and now this isn't it ironic him? He and 508 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.320 the Summons came in at the same exact time and they were both kind of 509 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.400 disaster. Yeah for both teams. Oh yeah, okay, let's go all 510 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.519 right. Thanks to Rodrebino Devil's diegest dot com. Give him a read. 511 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.800 He's really calling for Ray Anderson to get the boots. So we'll see what 512 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.519 happens over there. So well, we're right back. 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Hey, welcome back to Right on the Marketing on 569 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.239 Fox Sports courteen. Crookie Seas. We got about twelve minutes. If you 570 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.519 guys want to give us a quick call, please do Part two one six 571 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.840 seventy four forty Big week this weekend. We're gonna party. Continue with se 572 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.159 Jeds stuff. Yeah, Jed had a lot of, you know, a 573 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:14.199 lot of stuff to talk about today, some interesting topics. Let's play his 574 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.119 opening opening comments talking about ticket sales and and uh, you know, getting 575 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.960 excited they're done with camp, all that kind of stuff. So, uh, 576 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.280 he's talking about the expecting in the mid forties at the game on Saturday. 577 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:31.559 So here were these were his opening comments his press conference today. But 578 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:37.039 it's good that camp is over. It's good that we're no longer hitting one 579 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.800 another, and we have now an opportunity to be in game week and start 580 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.320 Saturday night is right around the corner. At this point. It was nice 581 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:51.599 to see football on Saturday. It was an enjoyable day to be able to 582 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:57.480 watch and be reminded that college football is a great thing. And the chance 583 00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.679 to be able to get back out there this coming Saturday nights gonna be amazing. 584 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:06.000 I believe we'll have a great crowd. Sounds like we're over forty four 585 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.599 thousand or something like that right now. I know Zonner Zoo passes are up 586 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.000 fifteen hundred from last year. I think they're close to about seven thousand z 587 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.480 Owner Zoo passes or are out right now. So that's pretty exciting stuff. 588 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.280 And if we can keep that up. Obviously, you know we've talked about 589 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:27.679 for two years. Can we get to this year three and make it a 590 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:34.599 sellout season? So that's our goal. So that's our goal. He went 591 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.960 on. He went on to play the stuff we used to talk about, 592 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.199 the uh you know, the eighty five players are health and all that kind 593 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.920 of stuff. Yeah, we talked. Abou says we left the room best 594 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.880 time of year, and I know I'm asking somebody who might not agree with 595 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.480 me. Oh call at the beginning of college football, like this week Saturday? 596 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.039 Yeah or white No, Yeah, no, they'll give you a choice. 597 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.599 Oh, give me a choice. Okay, the nub A tournament. 598 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:12.559 Oh god, you know see, man, it's a close call. It's 599 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.159 a close call because that first day and not the first four right Thursday, 600 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:21.159 the Thursday of games, getting up in the morning on the morning, I'm 601 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.000 giving you. Okay, so you're in Vegas this weekend, Saturday, big 602 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.440 games are a bunch of games, or the first day of the tournament. 603 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.760 Yeah, I think you're going to NC double A tournament. I think you 604 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.639 are. But I'll tell you what, I'm already excited about getting up at 605 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.800 six o'clock in the morning on Saturday morning and turning on game day. Yeah, 606 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.440 of course, sure. Although I am already sick of Pat McAfee, 607 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.239 but that's a whole another story. Really, I can't stand that guy. 608 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.840 I think he's bad for the show. And it's just me. I'm not. 609 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.400 Again, I've said a million times, I'm not the demographic, okay, 610 00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:01.079 but they've brought a level of circus to game day that it doesn't need. 611 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.159 Yeah, I haven't seen it. So is Corse still Well, he 612 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.480 wasn't there on sat on Saturday, but yeah, I think he's still going 613 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:14.079 to be there. But McAfee brings like a world championship wrestling approach. He's 614 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:19.440 loud, outrageous, Okay, so so why do you think they brought him 615 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.719 on for that appeal? So that my son would watch? But what's he 616 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:24.599 bringing if your son's a smart man? Are smart? Got smart? They 617 00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:30.360 like him for what reason? Because he's loud and obnoxious and and different. 618 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.079 I thought the generation was smarter than that. I guess they're They're different. 619 00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.639 They like different stuff than we like. I don't know, but you know, 620 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:38.239 but loud enough, they love rap. I mean, what do you 621 00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:46.159 oh? No comments? Well yeah again something right? Well yeah, I'm 622 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:52.000 listening to some pit bull right but but but but the point, my point 623 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.079 is is that he brings something to a younger generation of yours that they want 624 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.760 and we're not. We're not our generation. Then our generation is Herb Street 625 00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.880 and and and and Desmond Howard, maybe maybe even to a degree, League 626 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:12.960 Courso just sort of a less outrageous approach to the show. What rhees Davis 627 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:19.360 is what they what they were doing before, straight straightforward discussion, conversation like 628 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.159 you and I have, you know, we that's what I don't need somebody 629 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.239 yelling at me about anything that's happening in college football. Yeah, and that's 630 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.400 what you see, and that's what he does. I haven't seen any of 631 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.239 it. He's loud and obnoxious, and maybe obnoxious in good work. But 632 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.880 he's rowdy, he's loud, he's you know, he's yelling look at me. 633 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:44.599 Yeah, And that's why I don't want to gain. I want to 634 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.519 hear. I want to hear conversation. I want to hear stories. I 635 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.440 want to hear you know, I want to hear I want them to hear 636 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.840 talk about the PAC twelve. And I don't need a guy yelling at me 637 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:54.920 to do that, right, No, I get it, I totally get 638 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.320 it. If that's the case, I'll have to listen to this weekend. 639 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:01.719 But I I'm looking I'm still I'm still looking forward to. I'm not gonna 640 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.800 set my alarm, but I know that I'm gonna wake up because I just 641 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.119 do. On the first Saturday of college football, well on every Saturday of 642 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.639 college foball I get up. It's like my brain knows game days about to 643 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:14.840 come on. Get your ass out of bed. Well okay, yeah, 644 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.920 no, I get it. So I'll listen and I have and I guests 645 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.199 take my own opinion of it. But I hear you. I agree with 646 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:23.719 you. I wouldn't want to listen to it either. It's not informative, 647 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.320 right, that's it. I mean, he's not informing me of anything. 648 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.039 He's just been loud and trying to get attention. What's the point though, 649 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.480 right? Yeah, okay, all right, we went off on a tang 650 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.960 there. Uh you. Jed was asked about the clock rules. You know, 651 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.159 the new One of the new rules is that they don't stop the clock 652 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.599 on the first down except in the last two minutes of each half, much 653 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.920 closer to the to the NFL rule. Here's what Jed had to say about 654 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:54.760 that. Oh, I love the new clock rules. I wish we just 655 00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.440 took the NFL timing and just did that. I think the I FIL's got 656 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.880 to figure out on a lot of levels. I still don't understand why we 657 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.679 fight that sometimes regarding trying to you know, I wish we'd put the field 658 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.119 the same way, which the hash marks were the same, the goalposts were 659 00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.119 the same, and the timing was the same. But we're getting there. 660 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.039 We're getting there. I think the game will I don't know. I saw 661 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:22.199 that the numbers were a little bit. The average play numbers were down from 662 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:23.920 like sixty eight to sixty five or something like that. I think I've read, 663 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.519 which is good. You know, I who wants to sit through a 664 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.639 three hour and forty five minute football game, you know, sit through a 665 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.360 three hour and seven minute football game and enjoy every minute of it. And 666 00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.039 I think that's what we need. You know, we need the games to 667 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.159 go every about three hours and ten minutes and go to the next one. 668 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.000 And if we can do that and we can get the timing right, I 669 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.360 think that's gonna be great for everybody. It's gonna be great for the fans, 670 00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.480 it's gonna be great for you guys, it's gonna be great for us. 671 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.480 And I don't think we'd missed much by not stopping the clock on every 672 00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:00.159 first down Jason or some of the other things that they've they've adjusted, but 673 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.679 for the most part, that's the biggest difference is that we can actually just 674 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.280 keep playing in the clock and keep running okay faster. I liked it faster 675 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.800 like look. And I again, I've love, I've loved the baseball rules. 676 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.840 It's actually so much easier to start watching a baseball game because you're not 677 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.239 watching a guy step out of the batter's box fix both of his batting gloves 678 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.440 again, scratches, you know what. Let take his helmet off his head, 679 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.639 comba's hair and get back in the box. You don't have pictures stepping 680 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:29.960 off behind the mound, you know, looking around, wiping the sweat. 681 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.199 You get the ball, you throw the ball, you throw it back, 682 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.039 you pitch it again, And just the rhythm of a baseball game is so 683 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:38.679 much better. And it kind of felt like that with the game. Since 684 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:40.960 it's a very small sample size. I think there were only seven games on 685 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.039 Saturday, but there's already there was a you know, distinct reduction in the 686 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:50.159 amount of time. I think I think there were five fewer plays, five 687 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:55.159 fewer offensive plays on average in the games. That's that's it's ten minutes, 688 00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.519 eight ten minutes, you know, And if you keep doing that, and 689 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.719 you know the team's move fast and stuff like that, the game will well, 690 00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.400 well, here's the big thing. And I'm sure that's just been talked 691 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:13.639 about the reviews, Uh, the review awful. One in uh in Uh, 692 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.239 I think it would was the Rich Rod's game. Uh, there was 693 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:21.920 a game. Uh, god, who's yelling? Who's somebody? Oh? 694 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.880 It wasn't the the USC game. There were two reviews on one point. 695 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.159 Is that the outside kick? Yeah, on the outside kick. That took 696 00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.920 ten minutes. Yeah, that took ten minutes. You can't have that. 697 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.119 No, you can't do no, no, no. Fortunately, all right. 698 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.400 Jed was that's an interesting question by Justin Spears talking about all the gambling 699 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.920 stuff that's been going on in Iowa and Iowa State, and he was asked, 700 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.079 you know, are you talking to your players about gambling U and it 701 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:51.559 was a definitive yes. We've brought in speakers regarding gambling. We brought in 702 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:58.280 uh former FBI agent regarding gambling and to talk about how it gets monitored and 703 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.920 the to how aware you must be. We've brought the chief security officer of 704 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.599 the university in to speak to our team. We have brought in general managers 705 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:13.639 of NFL teams to talk about how it works in that league. So we've 706 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:21.679 made a very clear decision how we must educate our players. And I saw 707 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:25.000 what Kirk Ferrence said, I've seen what other guys have said in Iowa and 708 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:30.599 Alabama and beyond and as a strange situation, but I will tell you that 709 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.440 we have constantly reminded our players that you just can't gamble. Just don't try 710 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.960 to figure out a way to do it. Don't try to figure out, 711 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.920 well, what if it's UFC fighting, or what if it's you know, 712 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.800 blackjack or whatever, but i it just don't do it. Don't do it, 713 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.840 and if you don't do it, you've got a great chance of not 714 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.840 ever getting in trouble for doing it. Yeah, it's pretty simple, but 715 00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.679 it is simple. But you know, guys are guys, man, and 716 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.480 uh, you know they they were doing it. And when when you talked 717 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.719 about don't try and figure out a way to do it, that's what you 718 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.400 The Iowa guy's got in trouble for and actually got criminally charged for. That 719 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:14.079 was you know, trying, you know, gambling under one of them was 720 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.039 using his mom's name, one of them was using somebody else's name who were 721 00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.719 old enough to gamble, and these guys were gambling. He got caught and 722 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.639 look, he has a homegrown a homegrown example. Stanley Barry Hill, you 723 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.760 know, basically out of the NFL right now because of his gamble. Sure 724 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.960 you know, of course, and his name and Justin brought that name up. 725 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.360 Yeah, you want to talk. I know we have to go here 726 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.760 in a bit. We got about a minute. Yeah, but we'll talk 727 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.039 about those stuff. But let's talk about something real quick. You and I 728 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.639 kind of made a good effort give us that. For Friday night, we 729 00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.320 went to South You went to South Point and waited about ninety minutes or so 730 00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.320 by nine Evenue because we were there early. We got there early, sailgated. 731 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.880 I got. I gotta throw a shout out to uh, to Tommy 732 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.320 Mendoza and his family. They I went to their tailgate, had some great 733 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.639 tacos, nice stuff like that. But we tried to stick it out through 734 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:06.519 lightning delays and stuff. And I had some grand I had some grandfather dude 735 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.719 I had to take care of, and so I had to leave. I 736 00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:15.719 tell you about fifteen, waited about and they finally started about that time. 737 00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.519 Uh, we were leaving and they were kind of coming out of the locker 738 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.360 room. Very impressive, very big team, very big team. But we'll 739 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.920 talk more about that down the road. We're gonna go see him again. 740 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.400 We want I want to I want to see those guys. I was disappointed 741 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.920 to miss the game at that point. Kicked the crap out of Yeah. 742 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.719 And I was told by people who there was kind of nondescript. They just 743 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.639 kind of what they did. Okay, all right, let's take our break. 744 00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.440 We'll be back. We're gonna have breaking news.