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You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety
seven to one, the freak. All

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right, here we go. Let's
do this. Hit the post, you

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know, right, and get it
correctly, so I'll shut up for a

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minute. He already kind of blew. It takes a long time to get

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there. Where's the post? It's
the Downbeat. Good Friday morning, Metroplex,

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coldest balls outside, temperature of twenty
five degrees, clear skies, gonna

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be a bit chilly all day long. I'm Kevin Turner with Danny Baylis,

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Mike's Roy. You have JJ Jackson
two and four or eight one seven seven

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eight seven one nine seven one is
the phone number you want to chance at

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a pair of MAVs tickets when they
play The Magic on the twenty ninth.

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Go ahead and call now, Jj'll
get your info. Put you on hold.

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But right now we are going to
discuss something that Mike hipped us to

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last night. A double podcast that
was recorded in August for Dwayne Wade,

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and it was called the Pantheon Podcast
and heard that's it's Pantheon with Dirt Novitsky

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Paso and Tony Parker. The Why
with Dwayne Wade. Pretty good name because

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he's got the strange why in his
name. The why it is clever works,

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it works. It's a two parter. And again this is recorded about

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a week before they I think it
was the night before the night before,

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the night before their Hall of Fame
induction. So you got them all together,

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so they were all in the same
spot sponsored by iHeart I Believe too.

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Yeah, big iHeart logo on there. So he pulled some of the

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best stuff from it. They do
get into a lot of the things from

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the rivalry of Dwayne Wade and Dirt. But it's weird because it's not a

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one on one and you will get
some Tony Parker and some paalgasol. I'm

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gonna play my just this quick Tony
Parker thing first before you Dirk stuff.

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Because they were talking about, you
know, the European bast basketball and how

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those guys brought it to another level
and how Joannice and Luca and all these

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other guys are going to take it
to another level, and they kept saying

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Luca is no Dirk, Luca's no
Dirk, Dirk's the goat, and Dwayne

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Wade asked Tony Parker, why is
what do you why do you keep saying

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that. But no, no,
no, that's what Dwayn Wade kept because

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Tony Parker kept saying, they were
like, yeah, well, then we

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got Luca on Dallas and he kept
saying, Luca's no Dirk, Luca's no

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Dirk. He's had like three or
four times. And then and Dwayne Wade

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kind of stopped. He goes why
he keep saying that. This was like

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he was butt hurt that Luca's great. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,

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but uh, this is Tony Parker's
response. That was kind of funny.

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Why today do you say he's no
Dirk? Why? Why not?

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Because for me to be in the
conversation, you have to win a championship.

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Oh well so that's just my personal
opinion. Yeah, but I love

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goat debate. I love goat debate. It was so funny to me.

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I was laughing at that. I
was just imagining to goat debate fighting for

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the president. To the President of
the United States, you're thinking of actual

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two goats and a thoughtful debate about
goats. I love humans debate, gold

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milk not the best goat cheese good. I love goat debate. I have

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to go debates with my brothers with
my friends all the time, and then

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I just imagine him just yelling about
correct again. I love goat debate.

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I have got debates with my brothers, with my friends all the time.

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It's like boat conversation, Like like
what goat debates and boat conversations? Who's

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your hand in hand? It's like
a boat conversation. I don't even know

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what that means. Is that not
best of all time? This case?

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Are they talking boats? I don't
know, the greatest of all times of

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all time? That is a beautiful
quote. I love good debate, go

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debate. Okay, can you do
it all one more time? I love

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go debate. I have go debates
with my brothers with my friends all the

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time. Here it's like both conversation
on. Yeah, so they have goat

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debate, but boat conversation less formal. It's not very angry. Everyone just

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just talking about it. You're usually
on the you share the same view in

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a boat conversation, but a goat
debate you're on opposite sides. Right,

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you're wrong, I'll tell you why. Yeah, you're right. He was

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pretty good. He was the best
of all time. I love got debate.

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I have go debates with my brothers, with my friends all the time.

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Here, it's like both conversation on
you. It's like you're always like

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with debating and debating, and to
me, because I want a championship,

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I'm like, if you don't understand
what it takes to win a championship,

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I don't think you should be in
the goat debate. Okay, Okay,

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that's what you need. Okay,
okay, personal debate. They laughed.

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It's like boat conversation and they're like, ha ha, Like I did they

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all have boats? I guess I
prefer this boat over the Yeah, this

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is an outrigger cat Morandi is in
feet of your boat. I love good

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debate. Okay, can you just
play that fifteen times? Yeah? I'm

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saving it. Just debate, Just
get the play more and more. Okay,

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all right. D Wade to Dirk, how did you feel about me

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in two thousand and six? How
did you feel about me in two thousand

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and six? I said, it
wasn't a lot of love there. I'd

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say there wasn't a lot of love
there. There were just things set on

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both sides that weren't appreciated. I
think you took offense though, And I

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said we kind of gave them the
challenge, which is which I've would have

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probably taken offense too, because you
worked extremely hard, you played your butt

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off and carried them. Yeah.
I came back swinging in the media.

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Yeah. And then even weeks later
or or maybe I said something that the

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training camp the following year, and
I remember in the next year and I'm

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already moved on obviously, Uh,
some reporter comes up to me and shoot

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around me like, hey, did
you see what Dwayne said? And I

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was like what this is? Like
months now later, he's like, yeah,

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you weren't the finisher, you weren't
the leader. And I'm like,

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oh wow, that came out of
nowhere. So I didn't appreciate that,

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of course, But now twenty almost
twenty years later, I see where both

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sides were were just not happy with
how that whole thing went down. But

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honestly, I say this all the
time. There can't always be friendships during

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the highest level of competition. I
mean, it's just not how it works.

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Were I'm old school, I always
wanted to win, but there was

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there was no love loss there at
the beginning. I remember, and the

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seven the All Star Game was in
Vegas, I think we were the only

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two All Stars ever on record to
not shake haunts pre game. So there

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was definitely, Yeah, there was
definitely some some cold times. And mind

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you, we've never had a conversation
to this point exactly, We've never talked

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talked, And it shows you the
power of the media and how they you

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know, they came back to me
and they said, well, Dirk said

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this, Oh really, well watch
this. Do you think they met hadn't

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had a conversation until that seven as
of that seven All Star Game, I

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think so, yeah, not not
till that podcast that they talked before.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Okay, yeah I heard it that way.

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Yeah, this was the first time
we've ever had a conversation. Is

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right now at this panel at the
table. That's how I heard it the

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first time. But now that it's
been played a few times, I heard

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it a few times. I think
they threw seven. I still think it

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was super icy in twenty eleven though, oh yeah, which I mean we

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all knew, ye know what happened. We're gonna talk about that in a

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second. But like I just because
they talked at the seven All Star Game,

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right, m hm, doesn't mean
well he didn't say they talked,

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were the first people that didn't shake
hands, so like how long. Yeah,

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all that means is in O seven
they were not friends, yes,

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and and I love I mean,
they're mature adults. And you know,

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Dirk we know is one of the
kindest humans we're lucky enough to have in

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our lives. And anyway, even
just as a fan of but I bet

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Dirk hated that. Yeah that no, I mean then and then you get

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out of it, and hell you
hang a banner. It was cool to

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see these dudes sitting around with all
of the competitive egos stripped. Yeah,

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because I thought Dirk, I thought
all of them. But but Dirk in

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particular was very transparent, very honest. There was no braggado show, there

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was no excuses for anything, like
all that stuff was stripped away. Talked

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very candidly about the uh se Been
playoffs when they got just smeared by Golden

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State and how all that felt.
I've never heard these perspectives before, you

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know, it's just really neat to
hear him almost twenty years later in long

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form too. Yeah, very casual, do you guys find And it's just

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because how infatuated I am and how
much admiration I have for Dirk, but

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I think he has one of the
most pleasant voices in the world. Yeah,

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yeah, like I anything he says, I'm I'm, I can't like

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and I can't look I watched the
video. This is just audio format,

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but please go watch the videos on
YouTube. Just just look up Dwayne Wade

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Dirk now yeah, not you know, do it at six pm. But

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I just can't look away, Like, I just can't take my eyes off

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of him, I can't stop listening
to him. I just I love him.

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For someone who I've had done a
few work projects with, I wouldn't

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say I know him at all.
I don't. Yeah, he's I love

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him. He's so there's something incredibly
genuine about him. And one of the

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things that I've noticed about him,
and I heard this from somebody a long

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time ago, is you can always
tell when somebody is genuine when they are

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interacting with you, if they smile
with their eyes. Yeah. You know

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what I'm saying is when he does. I've seen Dirt grin when he's just

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kind of like whatever, But when
he's engaged and entertained by something, there's

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a connection. He has a way
of connecting with you because he does.

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When he smiles, he smiles with
his eyes as well as his mouth.

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And there's something weird, weirdly cool
about that. It's a unique thing.

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Is look forward the next time you
see him engaging with people where he's comfortable,

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yeah and happy. Like I'll just
say, I love Dan Marino.

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I don't really give a blank about
Dan Marino. I mean I don't care.

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I mean he's fine. I think
he's a great quarterback. I was

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a big fan, but it's just
a complete different category for my favorite athlete

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of all time. And it's just
because of the dude he is. And

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this is nothing new. Yeah,
but he's just sold you're not alone,

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thoughtful and good and he is one
on one. This is about three minutes,

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but it is Dirk on the cough
And I give Dwayne Wade his props

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for bringing this up because it didn't
have to go there. They they could

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have moved on the way this conversation
went with these other guys in the panel,

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Tony Parker and Palkasol And he goes, Okay, since we got to

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six, I'm gonna stick with Dirk
for a second. I was saying,

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hey, guys, sorry, we're
gonna finish this. And he brings up

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and he actually show pulls out an
iPad tablet and he's basically going to show

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them an image and what it is. And it's Dirk. I mean,

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it's Dwayne Wade and Lebron doing the
cough the thingking call, you know,

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make a mocking call making fun of
Dirk who had a by all means of

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severe cold flu. So, uh, this is so good. This is

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my favorite part of the whole thing. So long as three minutes. But

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I'm gonna fired away for you.
Yeah, okay, I remember this.

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I remember this. Yeah, so
this is uh, this is Lebron and

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uh my guy d Wade fake fake
coffin uh in the twenty eleven finals.

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How tel was that moment? Yeah? I mean you know, actually,

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so I was sick for that Game
four and then I ended up not seeing

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this until after Game four, So
I saw this before a Game five.

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I believe I didn't appreciate it.
I didn't. I didn't like it.

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It's it's just to me, it
felt a little disrespectful. I felt like

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I've never had to fake an injury. I never had to fake an illness

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to to show anything, you know, I wanted. You know, I

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didn't feel well that day. I
had a little fever, and really that

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was it. So I thought it
was it was childish, and I think

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it was I think I think I
said it, but that one of the

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press conference. But at the end
of the day, that didn't add to

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the motivation. You know, honestly, I was at this point, we're

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game five, We're two games away
of my dream, from my reaching my

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dream which went six. We were
two games away, so I really didn't

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want this to be a big distraction
from me. And I think even coach

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Carlisle addressed it and I said,
listen, there, this video came out,

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we're not speaking about it as a
team. We're going to stay into

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our business and we we're here to
win one or two more games. You

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know, We're not. This is
not going to sidetrack us. And some

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of the six things sat deeper that
that bothered me a little more, But

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now we can laugh about it.
Yeah, we didn't like, like you

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said, it was kind of one
of those things that happened. You don't

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know what is going to become.
And I remember walking down the hallway and

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we were coming out of shoot around, and I think this point, we're

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up to one. We we lost. You guys came back that amazing come

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back in Miami in game two,
but we came to Dallas and we won

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Game three. So now in my
in our minds, and so all the

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talk back to us is, well, Dirk is sick, Dirk hand is

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this, Dirk is this? So
we like, like, you know,

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I think in a sense like in
the moment of being young and having one

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of those moments, he was like, oh he's sick and did like a

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fake cough and boom it went everywhere, you know what I mean. And

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then I mind we were talking him
about Dirk, We like, we're up

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to old. Well, I'll give
talking about him being sick. Where his

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hand is this or that? And
so it became I think bigger. But

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then once you look at you like, okay, that was that was a

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moment, a childish moment was caught
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that moment back. But at the
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bearings on the series. It wasn't
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You were already great. I just
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and that I'm glad this is all
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yeah, yeah, yeah. That
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coughing mocking cough during the twenty eleven
finals. I love the contrition of Dwayne

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Wade in that admitting, yeah,
it was childish. We were younger,

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it was stupid. We were like, why is everybody talking about Dirk being

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sick? I mean we're up to
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just kind of well, imagine any
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the other guy's sick. Oh,
I'm sick too. It's like a nothing

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thing that is turned into something we
all know about. Yeah, twelve years

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later, are and still talking about. It's just such a bizarre and it

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kind of made it's so dumb,
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ways of thinking when especially when it
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that didn't I already didn't love Dwayne
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boy, yes they were in my
crosshairs and I hated them for years.

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You mock, Dirk, what are
you man out there playing with one hundred

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in two temperature. You son's a
bitch, human garbage. The referees handed

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you the title, Lios says,
you know, and right ridiculous. No,

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it was so good. And again
there's a lot in this. We

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kind of took the best best chunks. Uh, I'm gonna save it part

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I. Maybe we'll do it a
nine thirty. So I wonna give away

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these maps tickets now like we said
we would. Cool. There's a part

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that's uh regarding one of Dirk's first
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and we'll play that for you at
nine thirty. But right now,

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let's go ahead. Let's do Dirk
Trivia for MAVs tickets. We've got MAVs.

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We've got magic on the twenty ninth, that's gonna be the Monday after

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next and you can get tickets at
MAVs dot com. Of course, we've

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got a couple of pairs to give
away. Let's go to our first caller.

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Hello, you were on ninety seven
one the Freak for a chance to

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win MAVs tickets. What's your name? Justin? Hello, Justin? Where

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are you calling from? North Richland
Hills? Justin? Are you a fan

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of the Dallas Mavericks. I'm I'm
definitely a fan and of Dirks as well.

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Big fan. Uh well, I'm
five five, but my heart,

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in my heart, I'm a very
big fan. Well, let me be

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honest with you, Justin. I
have three questions here. I'm trying to

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determine which one I should give you
because one of them is like super easy,

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yeah, and then and then it
gets to some that are harder,

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And I'm trying to judge your level
of MAVs knowledge in this conversation. I'm

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five five, so okay, he's
a short king tablish the Justin. Yeah,

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so you know, and you know
kavinall would hate me for sure.

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Should I give them easy one?
Yeah? Because he's five five. Man,

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Okay, he's only five five.
He can't POSSI hard life. You

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can't possibly know this stuff. All
right, Fine, I'm gonna give you

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easy one, but it's a two
parter. Are you ready, Justin?

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This is from Dallas Mavericks Tickets.
Yes, sir, all right, I

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need I need you to tell me
the name of Dirk's hometown and the only

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other NBA player to come from Dirk's
hometown. It would be war Warsburg.

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Sur spell that please. Uh,
it's a z z A z z y

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B. No, no, wait, not good with my German alphabet,

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but I think it is. It
starts with a w ope, uh Warsburg,

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Germany, and the only other NBA
player to come out of there would

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be oh, oh he's tall,
right, he's very probably tall and uh

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the Germans. That German guy's tall
came from the same place as Dirk.

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Yes, yes, Jet, Jason, Terry Jet. If you go by

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Jet or Jason, because I'm on
the spot right now, you're so close

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kind of ok, Okay, you
wouldn't. I wouldn't say that this is

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a miniature man. He's not a
mini NBA player. No, he's not

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a mini uh no, okay,
he's like me, the opposite of a

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mini NBA player. Oh, he's
a he's a delight a grande. No,

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he's a he's a big player,
for sure, he's a big Yeah,

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he's leave. So it's it's definitely
Dirk. He's made the most of

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his abilities in the league. Yes, yes, I think he's maximized his

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abilities. Okay, Maxi Kleeber,
Hey, do you know what? He

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maybe five to five, but his
brain is six nine Yeah, thank goodness,

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Thanks Danny, You're the best.
I love debates and and Mike,

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do you love goat debate? I
love ninety seven to one trivia and winning

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tickets. Very good, debt to
go on? Very good. I'm also

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very happy for uh Maverick's Uh have
Kyrie. We're gonna pop you on.

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We're gonna pop you on hold and
get your info. Thank you, Justin,

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Thanks dude for real man, thanks
for listening. Congrats you just wont

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Matt Dallas Mavericks ticket barely, barely. We had to like run the tickets

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to your house the door back in
the CU truck that they go over my

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head And why are you still on
the air? Stay on hold, j

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J, get your info, stay
on hold, Justin? God, Okay,

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I like Justin. He is nice. Who's the next collar? Hi,

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Welcome to ninety seven won the freak. Your chance to win MAVs tickets

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is imminent. What's your name?
It's Kevin, Kevin any more? Kevin's

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eleven eleven? Huh? All right, you're a big MAS fan. You're

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excited for this opportunity to win Dallas
Mavericks tickets. Here on the Home of

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the MAVs. Oh yeah, all
right, yours question is harder than Justin's

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was. But if you know Dirk, if you know Dirk, uh,

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you should be okay, are you
ready, Kevin? Other than basketball,

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what are the two sports that Dirk
famously grew up playing? Oh my god,

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well might have to guess hennas and
go on and oh man would have

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been track. Track. It's a
sport that al Bundy was. We were

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close. It was a field,
you're close. Field. He loved playing

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field. Al Bundy was pretty good
at this sport. Uh huh? They

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oh man about field hockey? No, wow, that's a good clue.

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Do you like that hockey? All
right, clue. We're going to really

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applaud if you get this right.
We're gonna all give him a hand.

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What uh? Field hockey is something
I could think of. Are you listening

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to the clues or not? Are
you looking out for the clues? Ye?

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Did you ever see any episodes of
Married with Children? No? Okay,

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no, I didn't that. I
mean he didn't really good tennis is

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correct? You did get one of
them. There's one more left. The

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sport starts with a body part.
You know. There's a football okay,

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like soccer? Your guess of football
is very close. You couldn't be any

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closer with one of those words work, work your way away from the foot

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and name body parts handball? How
do they do it? How? How

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Kevin? We have the smartest,
smartest how Kevin? Listeners, Kevin,

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you just want Dallas Mavericks tickets on
ninety seven on the Freak, the home

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of the Dallas Mouth. You are
the smartest Kevin that's been on these air

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waves today. Well, thank you
do your accept acceptance speech now speech.

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They changed things on as quick on
this world. So enjoy your every minute.

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Well you have it well done.
All right, thank one person for

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for what you've done today. Oh, thank you for Kat for letting me

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be the smartest Kevin on the air
today. All right, deal dude,

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Hey for real, thank you for
thanks for listening. No joke and have

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fun at the game. Appreciate it
all right, dude, you're lightning fast.

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The third question we never got to. Who's the only player to play

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more regular season minutes for one franchise
than Dirk Noviski did for the Mavericks.

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The only player in a history that
played more for one team Wilt Chamberlain,

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Carl Malone, the Mailman, Male
Man, Carl Malone, well done,

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Danny, well done, Justin,
well done, Kevin, good job,

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Mike. Thanks, let's go have
fun. Dingo's Morning News. Uh coming

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up next, I'm going to tell
you why, not only why alligators are

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going to take over the planet,
but they're going to kill us all