Deborah, with her thirty years of being an entrepreneur and creating over seven companies,
knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that
decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself
and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited
possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that
only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs
deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know the stories,
the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success. Get
ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z to
boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be blown
away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. Hello and welcome back
to Mission Accepted Podcast. You know why you're here. You know why you're
here because you love and enjoy listening to people talk about they're a crazy story
of how they decided to take the mission. You yourself might be on a
mission or you're thinking about doing it, and you're like, that's going to
make me jump in. That sounds like a lot of fun. But the
cool thing about people that take on the mission is they continue to take on
the mission, and as they stay dedicated to their passion, it might turn,
it might change twists all of a sudden. One book changes their life,
one handshake changes their life. I always say, for us, it's
like the one thousand handshakes to that one handshake. It's like, Carrie,
how did you get it? How do you you know? How did you
get to have a radio show that has that kind of exposure. You're like,
oh, the second day of business, No, it was, you
know, there's I'm sure there's a bit of a process that we want to
hear about today. So no matter what business you're in or what project you're
in, profit, nonprofit, and maybe you're just here to have some fun
and listen to some really cool people that are doing some cool things, because
there's nothing wrong with that either. So welcome to the show. Thank you
for being incredible listeners and viewers. I you are very active. I talk
to other people in the podcast world and they're like, I don't have my
guests that reach out to me or not guests, but listeners that reach out
and we know just from our analytics all around the world where you're sharing it.
So we so appreciate that. All right, you are going to be
let's see, I always give you little names, right, so today you
are you are let me see, you are a creative audience. Today you
are going to walk away from this interview that I have with the Carrie Hansen,
the Carrie Handser, the founder and director from Underground Radio. Doesn't sound
enticing, Ooh I want to be on an underground radio. You're gonna walk
away very creative. So Carrie, welcome to mission accepted. Thank you so
much dev for having me today. I'm so excited to share all of my
golden nuggets with our audience, maybe dig into a little bit of information,
give them some knowledge behind the scenes. Who knows, Yeah, hey,
it's the Oh I know my audience is behind the scenes. Today you get
to see behind the scenes because in the world of media, right, let's
talk about it. You're in media. I'm in media. When you're in
media, you see in front of the curtain and what we both know.
So me and Carrie play together in many behind the curtains in the two sixty
two book and the summits. I've been on her radio show. Ocean's been
on her radio show, and we talk media and we talk exposure all the
time. And one of the things that people aren't supposed to see is what
happens behind the curtain, right, That's why it's called behind the curtain.
But there's all sorts of things that make the front of the curtain, the
stage go well, the show go well, the piece of media and people
come on for exposure. What makes the numbers go higher, And that's why
there's people that are experts and what they do behind the scene and how you
collaborate that. So, you know, media can be so many different mediums.
And I just announced you from underground radio, that's obviously your main form
of play. What made you decide to pick radio? How did that happen
for you in your life? How did that happen? Well, actually it
was a really interesting story because I my main job was just cleaning you know,
I was doing a day job cleaning away and my hours were getting cut
back. So I actually applied to another radio station just like it was just
a fun job. So Masterclass Radio is like a college station based out of
Calgary, Alberta, and I, you know, was going there doing some
hosting, interviewing people kind of on the weekends. I loved it, just
loved it. Loved it so much that I had so many ideas to bring
to the owner. And unfortunately, when so the owner was going under Bell
Media. So sometimes when you're under the broadcast spectrum of being under an umbrella
that's higher up, you're only allowed to do certain things within that spectrum.
So I'm a very creative person. I love thinking outside of the box.
I have so many ideas, and as I brought them to him, he's
like, well, kind of shut me down, and know what, we
can't do this, can't do that. And so some people were like,
you know, why don't you just start your own podcast, you know,
do your own thing, And I was thinking about it, and then yeah,
after probably about nine months or so, then theah ideas kind of came
into place, and then it was born basically in twenty nineteen of December,
and then we had Radio Seed, but there was too many Radio c's and
then we had to rebrand it, so it became Underground Radio See and that
in itself was pretty much you know, all things underground, underground businesses,
underground musicians, underground events, things like that that aren't in the mainstream media.
So that's one of the greatest ideas I think ever out there. So
it's interesting. So you you went tovolunteer and you just fell in love with
what they did at this station and you were that's I mean, you know,
that's so interesting. And then a lot of times when people get shut
down, they shut down, but you didn't shut down. You just you
had a great understanding that it wasn't about you. They weren't picking on you.
They were within confines and they couldn't make the decisions. And so and
I love that when people start feeding back. I was just talking to a
woman who everyone in her life was telling her she should be a counselor when
she was younger, and so, you know, sometimes it's obvious to other
people, right, and she's she's been an incredible counselor for decades. But
and then to have the gumption and I did you say it was nine months
that you It was about yeah, about nine months, and actually was a
paid position. It actually wasn't volunteer, so but it was just very part
time. Only a couple hours on the weekend, and I just wanted more
because I just that's what I craved and was more, and I just couldn't
get that out of it. So yeah, yeah, it was about nine
months. You know. It was kind of almost like the birth of a
child in a way. So it's kind of cool. That's awesome, that's
awesome. So you're in radio, and I know me and you have had
lots of off show conversations because we chat and we talk, and one of
the things that I was on your show, it was, oh, it's
It's not surprising to me because I'm in media, but I think it's surprising
to people to hear that radio still has the number of impact because unless you're
really active in radio or listening to streaming radio or all of that, sometimes
people don't realize that it still has an impact. I think they think sometimes
that podcasts and you know, streaming TV have overshadowed radio. But that's not
really true. That's not really true. Being on your yeah, I mean,
and the one thing I absolutely love about your show is it's live,
like you're there and it is streaming live. So tell us some of the
tell us some of the great stuff. Why someone should consider radio in terms
of their exposure model. Okay, well I had to. I didn't really
had to dig too deep into this, but I was like, you know,
the greatest thing about radio nowadays, because we do have the streaming services,
is that you can combine these. So Deb's platform and my platform,
you know, we can go live on all those platforms during a radio show,
which is great because the radio show is streamed through a local radio station
here in Alberta, so it's Jess FM. So it's not my platform,
but it's actually a friend of a friend's platform. And we got introduced and
he's like, hey, you know, Jesse was the owner. He's come
on, let's do some shows. And so he takes that streaming link and
he streams it out pretty much all over the world. So we have that
benefit of using his radio station to be able to take all these streaming links
and go out and we're talking LinkedIn, Roku, We're through the NCG television
network in Italy, like across the world, which is super cool. Deb
can tap in, I can tap in. We can go through Facebook,
Instagram, like you name it. So back in the day of mainstream radio,
there wasn't you know, the reach that we have today with all the
streaming platforms, so within an hour, you know, we can reach you
know, over one hundred thousand people, like just like that. And then
back in the day, you know, it was just like the small town
one hundred people. And you know, so it's come a long way,
and you know, five hundred years, I would say, for sure.
But I love that and I just love that it's instant, it's now,
and the live makes it so fun because you I mean, you can go
back and edit and take all the bloopers. I just love the bloopers,
and I just love being authentic and it's braw and it's just so fun.
Just love it. Well, that's one of the things that we have in
common is that on our show, even here on the show, we don't
we don't edit. Bloopers are great. I think some of the best gem
drops that happens is when people go you can see like they've they've just gone
off what it is they were going to say or how they were going to
say it, and you get this incredible I used to it used to be
like that when I used to go listen to my teacher. Right, so
when I was studying aer Beta and health, and she'd go off in these
really beautiful stories and in there was just wealth of knowledge. And I love
the fact that, like I said, that it's live and you can serve.
And the cool thing is that just opening people's ideas up to what they
can do. You know, what they can do in terms of being tapped
into someone who has a radio show. So you can have a show that's
streaming on someone else's network. You don't have to own the whole party or
play the whole party. You can take your creative piece and take it there.
Just like so now you've got the one hundred thousand audience and you know,
instead of me doing one hundred thousand Facebook lives or twenty thousand Facebook lives
or you know what I mean, how many people you have on your live
you're able to go in and tap on something live. And the nice thing
about live is I really feel like it has its own sense of deady occasion.
Like people that are attached to your show, they know to dial in
right because it's live. It's live, and there's a certain it's like going
to the concert versus listening to the album or you know, streaming streaming,
you know, your favorite band and you go and you see it live.
It's such a different vibe. Hey, it's so different. And just not
only that, but you know, some people were kind of like, well,
what's difference podcast radio? A lot of podcasts are pretty much the same
topic over and over again. You know, they have a certain thing that
they like to talk about. Well, for my shows, you know,
one thing I love about it, and I think why people tune in is
because there's always a different guest every single week, and even if it's a
returning guest, chances are the topics aren't necessarily the same, so we can
go off topic and then a lot of times we'll start you know, the
show going into say their book, or they want to talk about their album,
or they want to talk about whatever it is that they actually wanted to
come on, and the whole table's turned by the end of the show and
it ends up being, you know, some thing going on in the world,
or it could just be one of their favorite charities, or like bloopers
happen and we just laugh and it's just you know whatever, or they just
want to talk about something that's deep in their heart and it comes out perhaps
it's just how they even got into the industry that they're in, or how
they switched industries. It's really cool and it's just like I said, it's
fun, authentic, and it's it's you never know. So I think that
brings the audience in going Okay, who's going to be this week? They
get the tidbit of you know who's going to be on through the posters,
right, But you know, I don't like to share too much on a
bio posting it because I don't like to give away the whole show. I
mean, that's defeat, its a purpose. But yeah, but it's fun,
like you just never know. You're like, Okay, this might be
a person that they've always wanted to see live, but they get to see
really who that person is instead of you know, like you said, it
could be you know, you're seeing your favorite person live in concert and versus
hearing their music over the radio. You see the difference. But then this
is talking to that person you know why they created the music or you know,
just the in depth stuff, which is you can't beat that. Really.
Yeah, it's rich, it's rich. It allows you again kind of
like that backstage pass. So look for people that are using you know,
a lot of times people use our medium and your medium as well to get
out their message about their business or their project or nonprofit or album or what
you were talking about. There those people that are looking at doing radio or
have done radio, how can they maximize their results? Like what can they
do pre or posts or how can they really maximize results to get a super
high exposure rate from doing a show? Right? So I talked about you
know how we do some posting before the shows. So it's good that you
know, whoever is interviewing you get some information prior to the show. I
myself like to get a bio pictures. It's like an ePK basically an electronic
press kit, if you will, so it gets all the information of the
person. I like to make a little post about who they are. Generally
share it, you know, within a few days of the show. I
do suggest that will maximize some numbers, is that the guests themselves share that
post out. They can even do it beforehand. You know, they could
do their own little real a little live saying hey, I'm gonna be on
deb show within a week, or I'm gonna be on Carrie Show in a
week. You guys tune in, get your audience engaged, share that out
when the shows pop up, you know, be active, you know,
right before, be like, yeah, I'm going to be on this evening.
Tune in, tune in, share on stories, share reels, share
posts, and I'm talking all single platforms as many as you can. You
know, if you're on LinkedIn, you know all the socials basically, you
know, there's so many alignable There's you know, Instagram, there's Facebook,
and people have personal Facebook and their business facebooks. Do them all and during
the show if you can, or just prior to share the show pages out
to or like the links to tune in to your friends, family, those
who are interested, your fans, get them all in there. They can
comment during the show, just like have fun with it, because that's what
it's all about. Then after take those links and again share them out as
much as you can, create reels with them. Take everyone, I must
say, take everyone, friends, family, relatives. Again. You know,
if you're collaborating with someone, if you have partners, share it out
because then that way everyone gets that exposure and then those numbers go up.
So I did a show a couple of weeks ago, and I look back
and it was funny because it was within twenty four hours we got eight thousand
people that viewed the show, and then now we're eight point two. And
again it was only just a couple weeks ago. Actually, no, it
was last week. So just within a week it's gone out two thousand and
it was like eight thousand overnight, so and that was just the Facebook video.
So that goes to show you know, the person that I was doing
the show with had a lot of connections. And then you just share it,
keep going, keep going, So that's the best way. Also come
back on the show as well, do a follow up and have some fun
with it, and then also get you know, friends of friends to come
on and they can say, hey, I was on carry show. That
bumps up the views as well because they go back and they watch your stuff
too. It's pretty cool and it can be very fast, which is one
of the best results you can get. And I think all of this is
super important because we know I talk to people about like literally doing like if
you're going to invest in your show, invest here, invest their time and
or money. And I'm and I am of the thought not that people can't
do shows that don't cost a lot. But if you are on shows that
have a marketing budget, then the results are so much higher. You just
talked about that, So don't be afraid to invest in your marketing right.
It's no different than anything else because that also gives the person who's doing the
marketing the funds to be able to do exactly what you want and help get
you out there. But no matter how much I pay, and there's some
places that I pay considerably for marketing right, one of them is the Emmys.
You know we're going to be at the Emmys. Now, let me
tell you it's a pay to play. But how much exposure am I going
to take on myself? Same as with your show, Letting everyone in the
group know it, letting all the authors know, like we're going to be
on there, We're going to be on there. It's so important no matter
what that you take, you know that you're going to do a great job.
You've hit eight thousand. But I think a lot of times people don't
pay much attention to pre and post, and if they kind of grab the
pre I'm going to be on, I'm going to be on, I'm going
to be on, and then somehow there's something about being on sending it out
and it kind of drops. So I think it's important if people take the
marketing that they're doing the show with you and bring it into their marketing plan.
Right, there's so many things that they can do. People want to
see them now, and they want to see them three months from now.
I mean using the same interview three months from now is absolutely fine. And
yeah, just putting it in places like their websites if they have a media
page, and if they don't, they should have one. Yeah, and
even texting, you know, it's really interesting. So as a friend of
many as like you, sometimes I'll see my friends they'll post. I mean
sometimes, look, we can't we can't expect that people are on social all
the time. Right, I'm super busy with the project right now. I
haven't been on there for a few days, five days, And then my
friends like, oh, hey, I was on this, and I'm like,
why didn't you tell me? Sometimes we're so absorbed with telling the world
we forget to tell our supportive inner circle. And I say, like,
just text me, if you text, if you want me on somewhere,
just text me. Don't assume I'm watching your social don't assume I'm on your
Facebook unless you're sending me out an email. Even if you're sending out an
email newsletter, which is super important, just send me a personal text which
tells me you want my butt on that show, you want me to listen
or dial in. Right. I think sometimes we forget about the inner circle
we have in our life. Yeah, exactly, that's a good point.
Excuse me, because I think sometimes, like you said, you know,
we assume our friends and family are on social media. They're going to be
like, oh, you know, unless they like your post and they see
it, and you know, one hundred percent they comment congratulations you're on a
show. Oftentimes, like you said, they could be busy doing their own
thing and they miss it. So yeah, by all means, buck your
friends, it's great, you know, yeah, let them know. I
mean, I think the assuming is a really big piece. I think the
assuming is a really big piece. And most people don't even understand that.
You're luck you have ten percent of your Facebook friends even see your stuff,
never to stop and open and read it like that's you know, and one
person can make a huge difference. Like, yeah, but tell a person
friend that you know that I'll tell everybody. Yeah, And I was gonna
say, don't trust the algorithm because you know, if you're liking so many
pictures of somebody else, like, it'll just automatically go to them and you'll
miss over Like I miss probably a thousand people a day and I don't see
their posts at all, and I'm just like, I'm sorry, I didn't
see it. So yeah, bug people. It's great people and they feel
special too. I think, Yeah, what do you think stops people from
going onto radio show, a podcast or TV or you know something where there
do you what do you think stops people from doing some of this media marketing?
Well? I think, first of all, could be cost. If
you actually talk to somebody about the cost, there's probably a certain way to
get a discount, or you know, a friend of a friend referral fees,
things like that. Don't be afraid to ask. By all means,
sometimes we under stand, you know, the inflation happens your budget. You
know, I like to work with people's budgets. I believe I've been in
a tight spot and I understand it's not easy for everyone. So budgeting it
out is one thing. Know again, the value of it, You know
what you're getting out there. There's major media outlets that charge sixty thousand dollars
for a slot, so you want to look for something a little bit cheaper.
Do that. I also think what stops people is that they don't know
enough information right. They're a little bit ignorant about how to get on board,
how to share things out. They may be afraid to even talk in
person. So sometimes I would suggest, you know, you can pre record.
Yes, my shows are all live, but I do have the power
to also be able to take a pre recording and put that put it out
there as well on the same slot, so it is possible. I just
prefer live. But some people have kind of a stage fright and I guess
that. But again, ask don't be afraid to ask. It's very hard,
or ask a front of a friend to ask for you. By all
means. Another thing is yeah, just they don't have the knowledge of what
media can do for them until they realize, like, you know, how
big it actually can be where the reaches they they again just think, okay,
well they want to go to a major media outlet because they think that's
be all and end all, and yeah, they just don't do the research.
So do your research and have fun with it. Yeah. I think
that's just being afraid too. Yeah, what do you think, deb do
you think there's another I don't know. Oh, I absolutely, I'm on
board with you. I think we can talk about that same assumption. Right.
So, you know you just talked about one hundred thousand and people that
are looking at things from a budget standpoint automatically go I can't afford that.
Or yeah, we're like, oh, Carrie's in our book and we've hit
you know, two hundred million media impressions and people here two hundred million and
they say that's out of budget. Or I'm not ready. I'm not ready.
I'm not ready. If I haven't heard this a million times, I'm
like, I need to get ready to be on your show. You're like,
you didn't brush your teeth into your hair today, Like, what do
you mean you need to get ready? You know what I mean? And
what they're talking about is I need to get my business ready for that kind
of influx. And so I think it's really important information to know that by
nature, turning on one show doesn't mean you're going to get one hundred thousand
calls. It means you're going to start to peak the interest. It means
you're going to start to bridge people. It means that people are going to
start to hear about you and see about you, and it's going to save
you a lot of time being doing you know, one hundred thousand Facebook lives
or what have you or Facebook lives are going to be more intentional saying that
you're going to be on a show. And I don't think people really realize
the power of media badges and credentials. And so when you start to talk
about being on radio, look they need to call you. They need to
call us and have a conversation and find out all that information and see what
that with that dollar is going to get them as well as you don't need
to do it in a way of this is something I'm looking at next year,
which you can right so that you have that understanding and do that yearly
budget. But it's never too early, I guess, is my, my,
my, you know you're out there, is it's not too early to
call even if it is next year, so that if there is things you
need to do to get ready, either there's a program coming or you know,
for people like us like I got to get on your show next week,
And I'm like why, They're like, we're launching a book the week
after. I'm like, we book five weeks out, so we would have
to literally switch a show around, do you know what I mean? So
that kind of information. But the other thing is how easy it is.
I don't think people realize how easy. Like we're having a conversation right here,
right now. You know, you're in your friend's kitchen, I'm in
my you know, I'm in my office and we're comfortable and we're casual,
and we're having a conversation. And that I know. Both you and I
do pre show coaching. So sometimes people are nervous and what makes them nervous
and we give them Then we'll give them questions or they give us the questions
to ask that they they would know if they were standing there shaking in their
boots, like they know the answer to those questions. So there's all sorts
of backstage you know, I don't want to say tricks and tips, but
there's all backstage strategies for making you look like the star comfortable knowing, and
I'm I think it's really important for people to understand they don't have to be
at certain barometers or certain incomes to play. These are really great, great
things to do that are not the big, the big house stuff exactly.
Yeah, but they can market it that way. Like you take something like,
I know, at your show costs, it's incredibly reasonable. You take
something like your show and you bring it into your social media bandwidth or your
Instagram or you know, not your Instagram, your emails or whatever you're doing.
It just brings the value of it up, you know. Yeah,
going back to when you said, you know, preparing for a show as
well, it does. It's really custom to my guests most of the time
though, I'm very much off paper, off script because that way it does
become an authentic type of a conversation. I will, you know, introduce
a guest and be like, okay, you know why they are there for
that show, what they want to, you know, tell their audience.
But I find having just a comfortable conversation makes everyone just they do they feel
a little bit more at home. I've had almost every single guest after just
say, you know, thank you. I felt so comfortable talking with you.
And it's also just someone that will listen as well. That's kind of
what you want to have is somebody that's comfortable, they're willing to listen,
they're willing to give you that time. If you go to again, the
major media outlets, it's very business ye, so they're going to be like
why are you here, They'll give you their questions, and it's in and
out, you know, not even your three to five business days. It's
three to five minutes and you're in and out, you know. So you
have to be extremely prepared for those times, and it will be completely scripted.
So not only that, but you know, if you're going into a
major media with a commercial, it's got to be prepared. It's got to
be right then and there. Thirty second commercials again, they're going to cost
you a lot of money, so don't be afraid to ask. Like I've
got a sponsor who has a commercial and every so often, you know,
if he's like, hey, can you just post that up? You know,
because he's a sponsor, he gets special privileges and their sponsor packages,
so ask about that as well. They get extra stuff. So if they
wanted you know, their commercial out there a couple times a month, they
get it. If they want it every day, they get it. And
again like you're going to be, you know, paying so much more under
those major media outlets, for sure. But just ask asking us orderful opens
up so many opportunities and don't just don't be afraid. Yeah, I love
that. I think we could call this just ask. But it's interesting because
people don't know, and we've had people that are like, I will never
go on stage, never, never, never? Do you have sponsorship?
Can I still get my name on there? Can I still get mentioned on
the summits? Can I still? They're not going to get on stage no
matter what, So that's fine, but they want the results. And I
think you just brought up a really good point is in terms of having your
name and being a sponsor, you can sponsor shows, you can sponsor segments,
you can sponsor commercials, you can do all sorts of things to have
that media exposure. So I know we're going to be wrapping up soon,
and I'm loving this conversation because I think what it does is makes media a
normal word. Do you know what I mean? It's like and it has
a high level accessibility. And here's the interesting thing. When people do media,
you need to market the media. We've just told you to market your
media. What about you. Have you ever had an experience where you've you've
had your own you know, I don't know something cool that's happened by doing
something in media, or you've had a fun experience, or there's a cool
story or something that happened for your business or your project or yourself personally,
Like, do you have anything fun to share? Oh? The greatest thing
I remember is I've been doing I haven't been doing it recently, but I
was doing a Tuesday show called Culture Connection with another host. He's down in
the States and I'm of course in Canada. So that's why it was a
cross reference of cultures and how they differ in things. So we're doing that
every Tuesday nights. And I remember it was I think our season three,
and we've decided to have on some virtual concerts because we thought, you know,
it's fun just to interview, but it's also fun to have people on
to perform their music as well. And yes, I do that on Connected
with Carry as well for my shows, so you can do that there.
But this was this stood out because we had two very well known artists from
Canada, specifically in Alberta, come out and they performed and it was just
so incredible. But our numbers were way over half a million that tuned in,
and it was just like one of those milestones that stood out. And
we don't know during the shows who's tuning in and how many because that's marked
by the radio station, like, we don't know till after. And then
he showed us, you know, the little monitor where they keep track of
how many people, and I was just I was just floored. And you
know, but I did see beforehand how they were, you know, sharing
it out there and getting people to tune in and get their fans engaged.
So it wasn't really us, it was the whole team that had worked together.
But it was just it was incredible and it was like, wow,
you know, there's power. There's definitely a lot of power in media for
sure, and it was so fun. Oh my goodness. Well that makes
it fun, right, It makes it fun for you, It makes fun
for everyone who's involved, and everyone likes to have, you know, a
great have success. And actually I think it even drives the mission even more,
right. I mean, I know that you're very mission based where Mari
Vision base, and honestly most media people are. When you're talking they're really
their mission is to support you. They are willing to take a back seat.
They're backstage and pushing you out on the stage and being the vehicle that
allows you to go there and shine so you can activate what it is that
you want and have the you know, honestly, the ROI like, I
think the accessible accessibility to media has brought so much money into people's businesses because
they have the power for not a large budget, like you said, and
we know those thirty seconds and I've been on radio shows where you know,
it's pretty tight, like you're there and you're off, and you're this,
and this is that and this is how it is. But the just the
exposure model that it offers and to have an RO, I mean, I
would imagine those musicians would have been just super thrilled right through like what an
hour of their time and some posting and they had happened. Really, but
it doesn't It really doesn't take long to post, like you kind of get
into a rhythm of it. But really, I mean, just take literally
ten minutes of your day to post all across everywhere, like I said,
stories and put on your LinkedIn and your Instagram, Facebook everywhere and just share
it up into little groups and things too. Don't forget groups. I always
kind of forget there's a little like you know, music groups or things like
that because they're all over the world too, or maybe it's a Canada based
one. Wherever you are, just share it out because who knows they might
want to come on to or they might want to perform with you. Like,
there's so many opportunities. It just doesn't like end there. It goes
and branches off to collaborations, to being in books, to being in albums
to whatever, Like it just doesn't stop. It's it's so amazing what it
brings. Yeah, it's a creative pathway for sure. Like it really is
is a creative pathway because by nature, people in media have a they see
things in a bigger scope and it is a very creative experience. I mean
I always say I get to right, like, you know, I don't
People like what do you go to do today? And I'm like, well,
I don't got to do anything, but I get to interview super cool
people or I get to so it's a whole different way of being. Okay,
I have one final question. We're gonna wrap it up, but before
we do, Can you please tell our listeners and they know what's in the
show notes and cool groovy and all that stuff, and we know now we're
going to be all over your media. We're gonna put our money, We're
remoute this. We're gonna do the same thing with the show we always do.
But where can people reach you? Okay? So Facebook, Underground Radio
see excuse me for my personal Facebook is just Carrie Hanson. With my personal
one, it's friend as friends of friends. So if you know someone who
is a friend of mine, then chances are you'll get added. I don't
really take strangers that way. Email me RADIOC dot contact at gmail dot com
can reach me there. Also my Instagram is Underground Underscore Radio Underscore c as
well. There are LinkedIn's just Carrie Hanson. I'm on Alnable. It's not
one of the major platforms, but again it's just Carrie Hansen over there.
Yeah, hit me up. We'll have conversations, zooms, whatever it takes
to be able to get you on, and we'll have fun. Yeah.
Absolutely, And of course we'll have all of that in the show notes.
But just for those of you that are listening and want to contact and reach
and subscribe and to all that groovy stuff. Now, last question for you
before we end our show today. You are on your way to a desert
island and you're packing your suitcase and it's you and you, and you've got
one You've got room for one album. You're like, I've only got room
for one album and a monst of all that sunscreen. What one album could
you not imagine not listening to for the rest of your days? Oh,
my goodness, album, band song, Thanks. It can't be a collection,
can't be the greatest hits. Okay. I am a huge Chris Brown
fan, raassive huge. It's on repeat all the time right now. His
eleven eleven album is out, He's on tour everything, and I'm just like
I said, it's on repeat. I do the old schools and everything too.
But if I have to name one album, it's the eleven eleven Deluxe
right now. So all right, Chris Brown, that is awesome. Well,
thank you so much for sharing, and thank you for listeners again,
And look at our listeners are super active. We know they're sharing, we
know they're talking, we know that they're they're doing all the things because they
are more than likely on some kind of mission themselves, and they so appreciate
if you want to be where Carrie's sitting and you'd like to be on a
show. We have solo shows like Carrie is today. We have group shows
of different sectors of people like entrepreneurs and people in media and health and wellness
and coaches and and datagers. If you're out there, we want to bring
you on the show with your peeps and have that conversation as well as we
have an incredible We've just opened conversations up for the next twenty twenty four and
twenty twenty five speakers, So if you'd like to speak and be on stage,
either live or live online, if you want to get that kind of
exposure, just reach out to us, and it's super easy. You know
where it is. It's debit dev drummond dot com. This is not difficult,
super easy. And until we meet you again, until we see you
next week, as always, be well and stay groovy. Thanks so much,