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Yeah Now aid in odiaa January twenty
six, twenty twenty four, allegedly,

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according to that thing we call a
calendar, this is the O'Kelly effect.

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Now, there was a couple of
obstructions to broadcasts earlier this week. Those

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have been removed, so we should
be all right now. Only got the

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one solid show through and re releases
of some JFK Myths shows from twenty fifteen

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to twenty nineteen, I think respectably. The first and last of the JFK

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Myths shows were re released on the
podcast feed this week instead of the live

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shows. Kind of planned on doing
that next week, but that's okay.

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We'll jump ahead, and in fact, i'll take requests from you guys if

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there's a particular one, like if
you say, wanted to hear episode three,

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which was the first first of two
that focused almost exclusively on Judith Farry

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Baker, be more than happy to
repost that one if that's what you want,

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But I'm not going to repost all
sixteen of them, and they are

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going to YouTube once again, so
let's see what happens there. Because you

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know, there's no Shelli Effect channel
on YouTube, and allegedly I'm not supposed

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to even have another channel as an
owner again, but we're kind of skirting

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the rules and seeing what happens.
Okay, so I'm not advertising it,

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but there is a Chuck Ocelly YouTube
channel anyways, So it'll go back out

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there and you can get it where
all podcasts are except YouTube usually, so

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it's out there, it's on your
Apple feed and everything else. And if

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you guys have requests once again for
some of the Old Myths episodes, as

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you've been requesting, that we pick
it up again because we need to address

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not new myths necessarily, but newly
popular myths again on the Kennedy case,

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So let me know about that,
let me know about anything, because tonight

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is open my time, and that
means that I'm here at my cos b

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Pete and you could join us at
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one six. That's three one nine
five two seven five zero one six,

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and it is open topics and you
can reach me via Skype Charles dot Ocelly

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on Skype, especially if you're elsewhere
on the planet outside of the Americas or

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North America or whatever where that cell
phone call is probably free at three one

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nine five two seven five zero one
six. You want to reach me via

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Skype, I'm Charles dot ocelly and
I'm sure I'm the only guy on there

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claiming to be the host of the
o'celly effect. So there's that. And

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like I said, Bpete is with
me, and I'm gonna check my Skype

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messages because i just got a handful
of them just now, so we'll see

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if maybe people want to join there, and I'll keep an eye on the

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phones, like I'm trying to keep
an eye on the news. What do

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we got in the news, or
first let me find out what's going on

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with with my cost bpte. How
you doing this week? Uh? Doing

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good? I was correct last week
when I predicted we'd be sitting around in

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shorts and flip flops. It's almost
seventy degrees here. You had just a

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couple of days ago it was nineteen. Yeah, it got hot and humid

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like today, right, you know? So yeah, hot and humid to

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day. But you see now,
two days ago, if that humidity came

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in, it would have been cold, rain and ice on the ground and

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I know, it's like, oh, what are you bitching about down south

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if you're up north anywhere, because
you know, you guys definitely dealt with

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snow and freezing and this and that
all the time. But it's weird.

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It gets very weird in the South
when you know, things freeze up a

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bit and people start to panic about
their pipes that they never had to think

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about before and stuff like that gets
to be strange. But anyway, yeah,

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it's been a weird time and you
know, Kim going to work and

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everything. That's been fun lately due
to the weather and the strangeness there.

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But anyway, so what what what's
going on in your neck of the woods

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outside of the weather? Oh not
a lot. We got playoff games this

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weekend to see who's going to go
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I worked, same old, same
old. It's work, but trying

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to get a few things done inside
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it's been, it's gonna be raining
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an electrical repair day. We've elected
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depreptent place, so it'll still be
a fun day. Well, hey,

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you know, what I'm hearing the
wienie dog bark by the way in the

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background. It's been uh, it's
been strange in the neighborhood too. We

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actually have some brand new loose dogs
around here. You know what my neighborhood

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looks like. No kids on the
street, and outside of our little wienie

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dogs, you don't usually see uh
animals either. You know. A couple

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of stray cats is the norm around
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multiply and they get faral and they
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loose dogs lately, outside of that, I mean, the neighborhood's been funky.

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Lucy is barking at these dogs every
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the way, I still have seven
mighty many months to get rid of if

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anybody needs a puppy and it's somewhere
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We just want them to go to
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really cool. Although I may have
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the group, but I don't know. Maybe I'll keep him, we'll see.

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But I don't want to add to
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and I need to get rid of
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we're praying that Honey is not knocked
up by the Bye b Pete.

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We did get Buster fixed, though, did I tell you that we got

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them fixed? Apparently too late?
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too late for Honey. We'll see, you know, the littlest of the

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dogs that we keep. Hopefully she's
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I don't know, who are we
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Yike's hard to find good homes for
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of them destroyed. You know,
they're they're really they're really nice little dogs

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and they stay small and they're just
they're just cool. You know, ad

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section on the website you don't call
it Chucks Puppy Mill or something and post

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pictures. I think this breed ought
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you know, I could send you
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we're done with the show, I
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the pups. Let you take a
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maybe I can figure out a way
to even get them on I don't know,

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Maybe I'll figure out a way to
get them in the chatroom Metochelli dot

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com. By the way, any
activity there, do you see it?

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Uh? Nope? Well, really
got eight people in the room. Okay,

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oh wait, there is shifter and
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no, no, no, this
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of those. And one of them
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Uh in case someone missed it.
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I got two Judy Baker episodes,
and I'll tell you what. I'll try

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and get those out late tonight after
we're done broadcasting. Uh So, we'll

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add those to the feed. But
I'm not going to put out all sixteen

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of the Myths episode because that's one
of those benefits you get when you sign

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up at Ocelli dot com. It's
in the members media section. Sometimes.

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I've left that open to the public
too, since they took down my YouTube

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channel, because they all used to
be on a playlist on YouTube and it

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was easy to find. I should
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Rumble or something, so at least
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off of the Myths series. Yeah. Do you recall the people I asked

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about them at the conference by the
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I remember, well, I remember
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it, when you were talking about
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thumb and sending them out. Yeah. Well I told people if there was

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yeah, like if they were just
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thinking about creating a JFK Drive,
you know, that just had those interviews

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and just had the myths and stuff
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series we did on all the investigations, you know, with Larry which,

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by the way, the last Myths
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they should put out that one with
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she's she's deceased now and it would
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let people rediscover her too, right, Yeah, I mean, but you

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could do that with your entire library. Throw your groups together, I mean,

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all of your shows with one that
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know, do your JFK stuff OCoP
what's his name, Jordan Maxwell? I

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can't. Yeah, yeah, put
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mariyall put together, or you know, combine them with two groups in one

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if you need, you know,
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size, that's another way to go. See. That's why I think it's

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gonna be good if you're signed up
as a member at Ocelli dot com over

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the course of twenty twenty four if
you're signed up, and I do mean

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from the beginning, you'll get ten
years worth of what I produced, not

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just my show, by the way, because everybody shows there was an agreement

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that I could repackage them and offer
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you'll get Pierce Redman, you'll get
Jeffrey Matt's show, You'll get Aaron Shows

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obviously, you'll get you know,
all these shows, Bob Wilson, Chris

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Graves, right, Donald Jeffries,
all those shows will come along with it

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as soon as you get to the
appropriate year, because I'm going to release

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twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen first in
a couple of days. Actually, I've

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got them ready and they're gonna come
out and zip folders to anybody who's signed

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up. If you have a membership
at Ocelli dot com and you let me

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know that you want to have the
archive email to you, you'll have the

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zip folders and you can do with
them what you want, but you either

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got to sign up for a spot
on the supporter wall and pay all in

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one shot, or you pay over
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did raise the price to ten bucks. Now, I know that sounds like

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I'm asking a lot, but I
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that it's basically one hundred and twenty
dollars. You end up with five thousand

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podcasts. You support me at ten
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keep this going. I think it's
not so bad for ten bucks, especially

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because you know, I launched the
membership section in twenty fifteen and I haven't

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raised the price. It's been six
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three, so you know, price
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think is not so Bpete, what
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It's definitely a bargain for the amount
of program and you got to go

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through. Yeah, it's definitely a
bardin. And like I said, once

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a month, there's gonna be this
batch email where everybody's gonna get you know,

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anybody who's on the list will get
these massive you know, it'll be

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a couple of gigs, probably every
email, and that's why I'm only gonna

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be able to send them out and
then I'm gonna have to delete them.

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So you better get him and download
them if you get them, because I'm

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gonna have to delete them out of
my Google Drive and then replace them with

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the next month's mail, you know, So you might want to get in

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on that early. Of course,
if you catch up on it later,

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I mean, I'll figure out a
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it's gonna be tough. I mean, I'm thinking to myself, I might

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have to mail it out over the
course of two years, and you know,

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if you missed the first couple of
months, well stay signed up for

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the full twelve months and I'll redo
it again next year. You know,

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I don't know. That's what I'm
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twenty twenty four season onto it,
because so far it goes from twenty thirteen

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to twenty twenty three, which technically
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know twenty thirteen. There's not much
material from twenty thirteen, but if you

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count that as one year twenty fourteen
twenty fifteen, I'm counting with my fingers

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here twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,

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twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two
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you have actually ten years there,
then twenty twenty three is a separate year

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should be. So actually I'm giving
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to separate twenty twenty three out.
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stuff that came with the website that
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be included. So that's the unrecorded
stuff, the after effects, the you

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know, the stuff that was edited
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All that stuff is included in there
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I produced five of them or one
hundred of them, different people, my

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show, the Extra Stuff, Hell
and High Water? What else can you

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ask for? The Liberty Beacon Hour
that I used to do, and by

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the way, a bunch of shows
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I was a semi regular on,
like Boiler Room Radio for I don't know

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about six months back in twenty fourteen, I was on another show called After

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the Last Cup, which was meant
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an entire you know, alternative media
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all the hosts together, you know, a bunch of the hosts together at

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the end of the week on Saturday
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promote their stuff and all that.
And for a long time there it was

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me and the guy who hosted that
show showing up on it, and that's

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where people first heard from missus.
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radio show is included the Jaded podcast, which I was co host of and

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produced live, and even though I
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as well. But it's all fun. And by the way, I'm redoing

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those on the live stream lately,
but again, they usually can't go out

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and podcast for them, so enjoy
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add those JFK myths, those really
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there. Okay, Okay, I'm
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know, because I want to know. Anyway, We've already got a couple

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of callers and enough of me talking
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o'chile coast to ghost anyway, there
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off and acting stupid. Anything you
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the floodgates and get to the chaos
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Okay, I asked if there was
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open up the callers? Is there
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Hang. No, I was just
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some headlines here we can breathe through. And uh, in addition to

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whatever our callers happened to bring on
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one story here. I don't know
if you remember back a raid on a

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US private vaults business that they suspected
some criminals were wiping some money through.

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The FBI went in and took everything, and the federal court just ruled that

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the the seizure of those take the
positive boxes was unconstitutional. So they went

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through about seven hundred safety posit boxes
and they're getting slapped by federal judge here

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shortly. Okay, nice. Yeah, so this was not a bank but

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a private company, although you know
banks are private companies too, but let's

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not get into that argument right now. But what are you talking about?

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Sorry, this was a mailbox plus
where you'd go in to rent a mailbox

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and you would have an actual address
that you could have stuff delivered to.

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Well, this is a company called
US Private Vaults, and they allow people

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to rent safe deposit boxes anonymously,
you know. And so the agents raided

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this thing. They brought in drug
sniffing dogs and plan to plan to set

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aside any cash worth more than five
thousand dollars as they went through these boxes.

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And after the raid, people wanted
their stuff back and FBI said no,

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and so they took them to court. And it says once the government

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begins adding a set of customized instructions
to a standardize a standardized inventory policy,

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particularly the type of custom instructions presented
by this case, the entire search stops

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being conducted pursuing to a standardized policy. So if this is going to get

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interesting, I wonder, how what
is it going to get sued for.

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Well, you know, it's it's
good when you have enough money to fight

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with the guy government, right,
because most people just get run over.

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I mean if they go to Sea's
and by the way, it's very rare

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that they ever go after you know, the safety deposit boxes in banks.

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Going to tell you a little criminal
world underworld secret is that a lot of

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horrible things, a lot of illegal
things, a lot of dangerous things,

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indeed, are within the strong boxes
that are kept in bank vaults by FDIC

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and short legitimate stand up banks.
Indeed, you know, if you wanted

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to get rid of something like,
oh, I don't know, a human

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skull, because say you were able
to eliminate the flesh, but you couldn't

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get rid of the bones, and
you didn't want DNA found, you might

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keep a trophy of bones in a
box. Cause you know why they don't

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send cadaver snipping dogs into banks.
Nobody would think of that. And usually

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you get to privately deposit a lot
of things if you go to the right

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bank. So you could deposit drugs, explosives, human remains. I mean,

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you got to make sure it's sealed
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he can't have a stench starting to
float through the strong box area. But

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you can get away with a lot
of wild stuff, stuff that's supposed to

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have disappeared, pieces of artwork or
jewelry that are particular. And you know,

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look, if somebody holds onto it
long enough, maybe they'll stop looking

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for it big loads of cash that
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could be in legitimate safety deposit boxes
that you know, if a gangster

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goes and has his aunt Maria,
go ahead and get a safety deposit box

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down at the local credit union or
whatever. Right, guess what Nobody ever

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sees what's in that box except Aunt
Mary and you keep a key. And

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guess who the government can't search usually
the bank vault, just saying it's not

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a bad hiding spot. Much like
you know, if you really want to

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destroy human remains, I have explained
to you before that it's good yew to

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know a crematory. Yeah. Yeah's
the difference here being, you know,

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when you go to a bank now
you've got to produce so many damn forms

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of ID just at CASHO. You
know, a check it's here. It

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was all you could be done anonymously, says the company that you're renting from

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doesn't have all your personal info to
be given out. And you know,

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unlike some of the arguments that they
have made in this case talking about well,

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you know, you like was like
when you seize vehicle, you don't

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have to inventory the vehicle at a
drug stop and blah blah blah, and

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they're going, nah that this is
different. This is a this is a

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safety deposit box and a vault.
It's not the same as pulling somebody over

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on the highway. Well so,
and because it's just what it's going to

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be when they get sued, how
much they're going to have to pay out.

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Well, the other thing is in
those drug seizures, right, the

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logic has always been which I totally
disagree with, you know, just because

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they say, look, you're involved
in business where there's ill gotten gains,

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right, there's illegal gains. You
gained your drug money, you bought a

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house for your mom with your drug
money. Therefore we can seize the house.

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They do that with the cars because
it's either part of the illegal operation

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or it's from the ill gotten gains. In a case where you have a

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safety deposit box, you know,
somewhere along the line, it seems to

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me like you'd have to connect that
and say this is part of criminal activity.

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How do we know it? Well, outside of being able to search

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one particular box, because you've found
out that there is and you have evidence,

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you have a you know, what
do they call that? When you

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can actually get a sworn piece of
testimony right entered into evidence and affidavid a

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fact in order to say that this
is testified to and therefore that's one of

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those justifications for a completely legal search. If you don't have that in each

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particular case, in these boxes,
it seems to me like you don't have

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the right to disturb a box.
Even if you have the right to disturb

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the vault, you'd have to go
through and be able to disturb each box,

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which means you'd have to essentially say
that each one of these boxes is

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connected to some sort of criminal activity
or suspected criminal activity for you to even

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get a look at it. And
you can't just base it on a hunch,

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right, You're supposed to have a
sworn witness to get reasonable cause.

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I mean, maybe it's just me
and my constitutional thinking, but seems like

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you would have to do that.
Now. Funny thing you bring up these

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mailboxes and whatever, because look,
if you go get a cutout person,

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right, somebody who doesn't exist or
somebody who died three years ago to go

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rent themselves a box, but you
have the key, and you show up

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and you can enter in there,
and you can go get the stuff out

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of the box. So long as
you don't have to deal with the counter

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where you have to pick up a
slip or something, you get around that

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too. Like I said, you
get have Aunt Mary go get the strong

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box, give her one right next
to it if you want, she can

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put her jewelry that she wants to
make sure her grandnieces get. And next

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to that is your stuff you're hiding, you know, But nobody has the

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right to search it because it all
legally belongs to Aunt Mary and she's got

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a private agreement. And unless you've
got reasonable cause to go after her possessions

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and examine this thing that is either
purchased with ill gotten gains or contains some

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ill gotten gains, or is part
of the criminal operation, you got no

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right to be searching the box.
And again I think there's you know,

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if this was not like a place
that was catering to people that had good

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money. I'm telling you now,
if this was like you know, you

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and me, and they decided to
rate our mailboxes, etc. And they

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confiscated all our stuff, we'd be
writing it off because there's no way you're

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going to ever fight that back.
And we probably wouldn't even be able to

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find out where the evidence, alleged
evidence went, you know. So anyway,

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it's it's a fascinating story. And
I vaguely remember this and thinking to

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myself, I wonder if it's one
of these places where, you know,

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you can actually get something that's about
as big as a storage space, but

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they count it as a safety deposit
box, right, because you've seen those

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places where you can actually put paintings, you know, full huge, like

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six foot wide paintings into a storage
box. You've seen those places, right,

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Yeah, They're they're expensive because they're
bonded and insurance wise, so they

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charge you for that insurance seed.
Oh yeah, absolutely, but you know

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they keep somebody there. They've got
somebody watching the place. It's not like

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us, just a regular storage unit
you would rent. So it's worth the

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money if you've got something that needs
protect. If I had a big art

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collection, yeah, I could see
paying the money to keep it in a

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secure place like that. Oh right. I mean, look, if it

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was the old days and I had
you know, camera originals of you know,

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certain JFK films or whatever, I
might go to one of those places

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that indeed is entirely temperature controlled and
get myself a locker where it's you know,

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in a freezer and everything so that
things don't decay, you know,

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because that's another thing. You save
things of historical value and whatnot. Probably

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if I had, you know,
the resources back in the day, I

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would have put all my research materials
in there, and then my ex wife

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wouldn't have been able to dispose them
as she did. Anyways, like I

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said, please join us via the
phone lines. I'm gonna go ahead and

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open up to that chaos unless you
got something else. I mean, I

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know we're gonna have to hit on
the e Gene Carroll settlement at some point

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tonight discuss that, but maybe we'll
be better opening that up to the phone

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lines before we start commenting on that. Between us, what do you say

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sounds like a plan. Well,
there's also the progress or lack thereof regarding

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the presidential selection game and what's going
on with Nicky Hale and what indeed is

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happening with the santis who drops out
after placing second in Iowa and uh example,

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yeah, go ahead. RFK Junior
says he's got enough signatures to qualify

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for the new Hampshire ballot in November, so he's having to like this,

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you know state at the time,
just to be able to get on the

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ballot. So more power to them. I hope he qualifies for all of

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them, right, And a couple
of weeks ago I brought up the No

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Labels Party and what's going on.
I was kind of shocked to see Joe

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Lieberman is the de facto head of
the No Labels Party. You remember Lieberman,

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right, yeah, I mean he's
Joe Lieberman is one of those that

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you can sit down and have a
discussion with and still disagree with. But

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the problem with the No Labels Party
is you've got Pat McCrory, a text

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that thing who claims he's a Republican. Let me tell you right now.

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I mean, when you've got people
like Pat McCrory, there's nothing but snake

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oil salesman involved with this. I
got nothing to do with him. I

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you know, I really don't care
whether they have any success or not,

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just to I mean, I like
Joe Lieberman, but Pat McCrory, that's

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not worth getting involved with. Well, Joe Lieberman's a you know, a

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strange animal in the zoo anyway,
because quite frankly, you're talking about a

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guy who is, to my best
of my recollection in orthodox jew right,

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who literally, you know, everywhere
he went he wore the Yamica was a

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senator from Connecticut, which usually means, you know, a very liberal sort

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of state. For sure, in
the northeast. Connecticut's liberal. It's got

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a lot of money, all right, It's a moneyed state, I promise

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you that. I mean, I
know, I've been to Bridgeport. There

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are poor areas, but and I
lived in west Haven, which was apparently,

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you know, the ghetto to them. Looked like suburbia, a nice

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piece of suburbia to me. But
according to people around there, it was

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like, oh, that's like the
ghetto over there. Uh. And I'm

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looking around, going okay, so
crack sidewalks, ghetto, gotcha? Okay,

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Anyway, it was weird. And
Lieberman's from that state, and he

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was like a Democrat who didn't behave
much like a Democrat. You got to

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remember now, he walked away from
Democratic Party right before he got out of

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politics became independent. So yeah,
give him a little credit there. No,

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no, I saw the light.
But what I'm saying is is he

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gained his notoriety by being a Democrat. Well yeah, yeah, you know,

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it seems a little strange for a
and Orthodox Jew and b you know,

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because they have fairly conservative values intact, and you would think, but

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that's just it. Though. There's
a lot and that's what surprises me.

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There's a lot of Jews to support
the Democratic Party, a lot of Orthodox

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Jews. I don't know what it
is. I don't get it. Well.

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I can understand the liberal you know, the sort of like nonpracticing go

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to temple twice a year Jew supporting
the Democratic Party. It almost meanke sense.

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But the guy was story work to
deal with. When about delegates,

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it was somewhere in New York up
there group of Orthodox Jews community ran the

407
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:17.759
whole community, and she worked some
deal with them where they all supposedly supported

408
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:22.480
her. It was it was,
I'll have to look that one up on

409
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.240
arm of that deal. M Yeah, go ahead, go ahead and look

410
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.480
that up. We'll see if we
wind up talking about no labels or anything

411
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.200
else. Our FK Junior, the
politics of politicking. Maybe there was some

412
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:40.880
UAP information that came out a little
bit of progress in the JFK files case.

413
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.319
Maybe maybe, And I don't mean
the mister Sutton case. I do

414
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:51.480
mean the files being released and new
mechanisms that might be available, although it

415
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:57.000
seems like the Biden administration is clutching
onto its you know, not releasing the

416
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.680
last of it still, just like
Trump did before that. Anyway, obstruction

417
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.720
and obstruction and what else is your
function? Ah? Maybe we'll go Schoolhouse

418
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.000
Rock before we're all done. Meanwhile, let's go to the phones. Only

419
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.920
got one caller consistently holding on,
but again you can join three one nine

420
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.400
five two seven five zero one six. Looks like we got Jimmy James,

421
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.519
and I'd like to hear what's on
Jimmy's mind tonight. Jimmy, how you

422
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:33.599
doing? Well? It's sick.
I'm coming. I'm starting amend. I

423
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.119
guess it took a week off for
a while and then it came back.

424
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.200
Sorry to hear it. So you're
getting hit with the latest wave of the

425
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:49.079
flu ish kind of kind of thing, right, Yeah, I guess everyone

426
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:56.079
that gets checked out it's being told
it's another COVID. Mm. Oh yeah,

427
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.640
Well as far as what you're being
told, I don't know what to

428
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:04.319
tell you, but yeah, go
ahead, okay, Yeah, it's alka

429
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:11.480
sels are cold and severe cold seems
to be work best work, good enough

430
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:19.720
for me for now. Yeah,
Well, Lieberman wasn't uh, Lieberman was

431
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:29.759
wasn't an Orthodox Jew. Now he
is Jewish and supports Israel, which yeah,

432
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.640
right now. The Democrat Party is
having a big issue with that because

433
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:44.319
of course they've always had high support
from the Jewish community, but that seems

434
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:55.039
to be eroding because of well the
Democrat Party positions, particularly the ones from

435
00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:04.200
AOC and her crew anti Israeli positions. So there's a lot of people that

436
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:13.839
are like Alan der Schwitz and others
that are watching very carefully. But before

437
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.480
Leeber there, oh yeah, the
whole thing about the bank books. Yeah,

438
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:22.079
the FDI is a big mass.
They're fools. There's all kinds of

439
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:28.599
legal principles, Like you said,
you can't issue blanket warrants in America.

440
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.680
Then there's another legal principle about a
diary and a lacked drawer. There's just

441
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:42.319
all kinds of laws against blanket warrants. That doesn't work in America. Yeah,

442
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.799
I'm thinking it does sometimes. Well, there should have been like five

443
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.559
different things that should have put a
stop to that massive search, you know,

444
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:53.680
before it ever happened based on the
principles as they're supposed to operate.

445
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.039
And the reason why I said that
he's an Orthodox jew is as follows.

446
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.319
I went and decide to go look
for where it was that I got that

447
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:09.559
idea, and it was from the
campaign back in the year two thousand,

448
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:15.400
believe it or not, al gore
selection of Senator Joseph Lieberman. This is

449
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.200
from ABC News, by the way, and it was part of a press

450
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.920
release from the campaign that was written
into a news story back then. And

451
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.519
it's you know, it's from the
two thousand election time. Right. Al

452
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.920
Gore's selection of Senator Joseph Lieberman and
orthodox jew as his running mate, takes

453
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:39.960
the Democratic presidential ticket into uncharted waters
never before as a US presidential candidate chosen

454
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.759
a Jewish running mate. Gorge selection
of the Connecticut senator, which will be

455
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.680
formally announced today, as sparked questions
about whether enough of the American public is

456
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.920
ready to elect a Jewish vice president. Almost amazing that they would have written

457
00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:00.920
a story worded that way in two
thousand, Right, But I've just mentioned

458
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.920
shows, Yeah, the way they
phrased these quests just of course they aren't

459
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:16.000
really questions they're the so called reporters
opinions softballs. But okay, fine,

460
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:22.840
Lieberman, he wants to be Orthodox, you fine, is unlike one of

461
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.920
them, look forward, Yeah,
no, true, I mean I'm not

462
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.960
going to do me no, no, that's fine. True. I just

463
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.440
thought it was interesting because he's like
an odd Orthodox, you if he is,

464
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.440
because he always keeps the Yamica on, which would be one thing an

465
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.079
Orthodox you would do like constantly with
the yamica. Right. But uh,

466
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.800
but here's the thing, like from
his rabbi again, a statement made around

467
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:51.480
the same time back then Rabbi Barry
Frondel, the rabbi of the synagogue Lieberman

468
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.079
attends, this was like a big
focus in two thousands. Attends in Washington's

469
00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:00.719
Georgetown neighborhood told ABC News the pick
represents a qu breakthrough moment end quote in

470
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.639
American politics. They made a big
deal out of the fact that this was,

471
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.800
you know, a Jewish vice presidential
candidate in two thousand and they might

472
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.320
have been trying to you know,
hit it home with improper labels here even

473
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.440
to say that he was, you
know, Orthodox, or to push the

474
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:21.800
fact that he's very conservative, to
make that you know, balance, right,

475
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:27.440
here's the very liberal Al Gore here
is the Democrat, but very conservative

476
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:31.079
because he's orthodox religiously, and that
might have been the way they were trying

477
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:38.159
to balance that out. What do
you think of that, Jimmy James.

478
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:45.599
I believe they were definitely framing it
in that kind of context. And it

479
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.599
is a fact that not in thirty
or forty years, but there was a

480
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:58.840
time when New Hampshire, Connecticut were
independent. But as before all the texts

481
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:06.880
of chooses, fleers went to their
states like locusts and destroyed their states as

482
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:12.400
well. Of course it's just stall
ate up. But uh uh, and

483
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.599
then before that, wasn't there some
JFK stuff? One thing I wanted to

484
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:28.519
mention Harry Connick Senior passed away at
age ninety seven. Really when when?

485
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:34.440
Uh huh, let's see when was
that? Like a few days? Huh?

486
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:42.000
This week? Now? Why couldn't
that have been Judge Garrison and Harry

487
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:49.760
Connick sor No, I'm saying that's
just a shame. M M. Harry

488
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.960
Cot the guy I would have liked
to the guy I would have liked to

489
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:59.719
have seen make it to ninety seven. I suppose there you go. I

490
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.119
would would liked to have seen that
as well. Harry Connock Junior's father dead

491
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.679
at ninety seven, and I have
a report on it. It was in

492
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.480
my news feed, and I didn't
didn't take notice of it. But yeah,

493
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:15.000
let me read from it really quick. Harry Connock Senior, long time.

494
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.559
Excuse me, I got to move
my Skype thing anyway, long time

495
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:23.960
New Orleans district attorney and singer's father
dead at ninety seven. Let's see what

496
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.440
does say. Conic Senior reportedly died
peacefully at his home, surrounded by his

497
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.199
family, including his son, Harry
Connick Junior. Harry Connock Senior, the

498
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.920
father of singer Harry Connick Junior,
and longtime districttorney New Orleans. Okay,

499
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.920
blah blah blah. They're repeating themselves. Conic guy, Yeah, blah blah

500
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.119
blah. Okay. Harry Senior served
as the district attorney for the city of

501
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:50.800
New Orleans from nineteen seventy three to
two thousand and three, winning re election

502
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.280
four times before retiring undefeated in two
thousand and three. Per the AP,

503
00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.679
it was it was a Conic who
defeated Garrison to take that that that office.

504
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:07.000
I'm thinking it was, yes,
yes, it was Garrison. Garrison

505
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:15.239
barely, he barely was defeated.
He was so busy working on retrying.

506
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:21.239
Oh no, I'm not there lying
on their old show. He wasn't CI

507
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:30.320
agent. Yeah he was right.
He's busy preparing a perjury case against Clay

508
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:37.639
Shaw and he just wasn't off campaigning. And Harry Karanick singing apparently really wanted

509
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.639
it. He want it, buy
a few hundred. I think it didn't

510
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:45.079
help that there's one thing going on. Yeah, well, really quickly,

511
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.679
really really quickly, Jimmy. I
think it also didn't help Garrison because I'm

512
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:53.719
pretty sure at the time there were
these scandals in the press about Garrison possibly

513
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.239
And by the way, there's a
guy, if I go to the flea

514
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.679
market this weekend, this guy will
come to me and tell me all about

515
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:06.159
how Garrison was in the pocket of
the mafia. He does it every time

516
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.199
I show up at the flea market. And anyway, Yeah, there was

517
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:15.440
accusations that Garrison had been paid off
by organized crime figures at the time,

518
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:21.760
I think circulating publicly that probably undermined
his campaign as well among people who didn't

519
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.760
know him so well. And today
there's plenty of people that state that he

520
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.880
was crooked and all this other stuff. And look, I'm not saying he

521
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:30.519
was angelic, but I don't know. I don't think he was in the

522
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.880
pocket of the mob. He behaved
rather strange for a guy who would have

523
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.039
been in the organized criminal payroll.
But anyway. In a statement provided by

524
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:44.800
the AP, by the way,
current New Orleans District Attorney Jason Williams expressed

525
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:49.440
his sympathies to the Conic family.
Quote, mister Connic remains the longest tenured

526
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.920
district attorney, serving from nineteen seventy
three to two thousand and three. Such

527
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:58.239
a long standing public servant gives an
enormous amount of themselves to their community,

528
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.599
as do their family. Blah blah
blah okay. Harry Senior was born March

529
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.800
twenty seven, nineteen twenty six,
in Mobile, Alabama, and moved to

530
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.239
New Orleans when he was two years
old. He served in the Navy in

531
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:15.280
World War Two, and after he
graduated from the US Army Corps of Engineers,

532
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:22.920
he ed Anita Francis Livingston got a
check on that with whom he shared

533
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:30.679
Susannah and Harry Junior. According with
whom he shared Susannah and Harry Junior want

534
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.760
to make sure I read that right? According to the New Orleans Times,

535
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:40.159
pickyun, isn't that a familiar newspaper? Harry Senior owned and operated two record

536
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.119
stores in New Orleans around the time
his children were born, and for the

537
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:50.159
Times Pickyun. He and Harry Junior
were later among the founders of the New

538
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:59.480
Orleans Musical Organization Crew of Orpheus.
Like his son, Harry Senior enjoyed music

539
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.840
and was a record performer at many
French quarter clubs. The AP reported his

540
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.320
son made regular trips to visit his
father, whom he called his quote hero

541
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:15.400
and inspiration. Anyway, I'll drop
the link to that in the chatroom mittochelli

542
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.519
dot com live chat room. Yeah, I'm not missing this guy, and

543
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.960
I'm not missing the behaviors in a
lot of circumstances where the New Orleans District

544
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:31.360
Attorney who inherited that office could have
been rather helpful in a lot of situations

545
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.880
where he was not. And indeed, Jimmy, what would be the most

546
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:43.119
egregious thing that this guy was involved
in along with Alexander Dair and all these

547
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:49.599
other guys that you could relate to
people. Yeah, His major sin was

548
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:58.239
the destruction of all the evidence the
garrison collected. It saw we high seventy

549
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:04.679
five percent of everything collected is just
bod Yeah, that's true. And you

550
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.199
know what the sad part is that
we ended up with the majority of the

551
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:15.920
grand jury, the grand jury transcripts, but not because of this guy.

552
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.280
This guy wanted those destroyed along with
everything else. Somebody wound up keeping it

553
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.599
in their garage and had to go
through quite a bit of trouble to hand

554
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.920
it over to the Assassination Records Review
Board. There's an interesting story about that,

555
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:42.119
you know that one, right,
Jimmy, Oh, Jimmy, you're

556
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:47.639
still with me? Me, Peter, you there, okay, yeah,

557
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:54.440
some crazy okay, yeah, I
don't talk hi about and sits up,

558
00:42:54.519 --> 00:43:00.880
sir. That now it's actually named
the Harry Connick sor collect So since no

559
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:07.440
one fought harder for that information not
to get out, the man tried to

560
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:15.320
destroy it, this guy saved it. I mean, that's the situation,

561
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.400
right that you're talking about. Oh
yeah, you know there's even a story

562
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:24.039
that that guy was physically assaulted trying
to move that stuff and he never filed

563
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:29.360
charges or anything because there was something
really twisted about the whole situation. But

564
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:34.320
there was like physical assault, trats, all kinds of things going on just

565
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.519
for us to never get to see
those grand jury you know, transcripts,

566
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.320
and they're they're might they're they're incomplete
by a couple by the way, there's

567
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.519
a couple of missing transcripts from the
collection. But I don't think it's the

568
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.639
fault of the guy who had him
in his garage. You know. Uh,

569
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.920
we're kind of lucky that we got
any of it. He said,

570
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.960
he just tried to grab anything he
could because he knew it was important.

571
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:06.079
But he said, like you said, he didn't he got like maybe a

572
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.199
quarter of it. So yeah,
but I mean that's yeah. But the

573
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:14.760
whole the grand jury transcripts, though, should have been preserved, you know,

574
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.320
just for the sake of the legal
record, you would think. And

575
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:21.880
yet that wasn't the case. So
Jimmy tell you what, I'm gonna put

576
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.119
you on hold. Very weird it
is, uh wait, wait, wait,

577
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.079
sure, sure, I just got
one little thing I want to do,

578
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.320
and then I really don't have just
say, well, I'll put you

579
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.239
on hold. I'll put you on
hold. After that, I'll put you

580
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:38.840
on hold. After that, because
uh, I don't know if you want

581
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.559
to come up with another poem this
week or not, but you know,

582
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.960
I'd love to hear another one.
So but whatever you got, go ahead

583
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:52.199
and I'll put you on hold after
that. Well, I just thought of

584
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:59.400
the answer that I haven't even told
that bon Pian guy on YouTube yet.

585
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.719
It just occurred to me something that
he asked eight years ago. You remember

586
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:10.920
when they first posted that David Berry
like audio tape and all of us were

587
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:19.239
blown away because of course he speaks
nothing like Joe as she right right,

588
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.880
And anyways, on the threat there, one of his questions was is he

589
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:34.639
said the documents? He says.
It says he was asking what's FC.

590
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:42.719
It says the documents were marked back
FC. Remember that part he was asked

591
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:50.559
for water who was FC? Right, Well, it's part of the thread.

592
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:58.760
Anyway, I thought about it that
time. I almost thought it's Pride

593
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:06.119
File Cabinet because it said something like
back f seed. But anyways, to

594
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.840
its just occurred to me the other
day. I know exactly the FC is

595
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:19.079
Fred Christman. It makes total sense
because the tape, because of the David

596
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:23.639
Ferry, they were all in that
click. He was there makes total sense.

597
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.480
So where to come from, Fred
Christmin, that's my guess. That

598
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.679
would make some sense. You know
what, if you have a link to

599
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.239
or a copy of that audio recording. I don't have it, by the

600
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.559
way, So if you if you
know where I can obtain it, send

601
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:47.320
me a link or let me know. Okay, I will do both.

602
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:51.920
I'll send them to you a copy
and the link from which it came from.

603
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:57.719
And it's kind of an interesting thread, the kind of I mean,

604
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.360
all of us were mostly just blown
away that he sounded nothing like we ever

605
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.599
imagined. Yeah. I remember hearing
that and saying to myself, this,

606
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.960
are we sure this is who it
is? Because it did not sound like

607
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:15.039
him, you know what I mean. And it wouldn't be the first time

608
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:22.559
that somebody's voice is like you know, it didn't sound like the caricature of

609
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:28.000
him that we'd come to know because
the film. But right in the beginning,

610
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.639
the man says his name age because
he's apparently doing this for his lawyer,

611
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.119
which is another reason why I think
it's Christmas of all. Of course,

612
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.679
of course, it's just all kinds
of reasons. Well, that's the

613
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.360
other thing about it, though,
is that you know, even if we

614
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:53.400
have an hsca tape of allegedly a
guy and it's a woman, sounds like

615
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.800
a woman reading the transcript, is
what it sounds like, with a whole

616
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.199
lot of noise going on in the
background, as if she's narrating something that's

617
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:06.679
happening in front of her. But
maybe she's reading a transcript based off some

618
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:12.239
of the clues in the recording.
And you know that that what's your goal?

619
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:19.159
That's what my mom used to do
on DC. She's saying that for

620
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.519
the personal to tight are you telling
my one little tapes where they say like

621
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:28.840
and then and then David Ferry,
well to the end of the peer period,

622
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:34.519
let's paragraph so who is or something
like that. It's a dictation,

623
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.400
crazy like that. It's a dictation. But the funny thing is that it's

624
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:44.599
in a collection with a whole bunch
of recordings of people's testimony, and it's

625
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:50.599
supposedly testimony from that photographer that they
you know, that is not supposed to

626
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.280
be part of the official record,
but was attached to the White House,

627
00:48:53.079 --> 00:49:00.480
And it's not guy's testimony being read
by a woman. Totally weird. I

628
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.559
can't remember the guy's name off the
top of my head. But he was

629
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.039
the guy they featured in The Men
Who Killed Kennedy and they said, maybe

630
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.440
he's the actual autopsy photographer. Even
though Stringer is the photographer of record.

631
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:15.039
It was that guy. They wound
up interviewing his family for the ARRB.

632
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:20.960
Anyway. Yeah, you ought to
take a listen to that sometimes, because

633
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.000
I can't sort out why the hell
that is that way, because it should

634
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:28.239
be a tape of him speaking,
and it's not there. It just it

635
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.679
says it's him on the you know, the way the tape is marked,

636
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:38.519
but it's not. It's this lady
reading anyway. Yeah, I remember someone

637
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:44.480
spent one hundred and twenty bucks.
I remember that and got burned. They

638
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.559
bought that and then it ended up
just being some crazy speed reading thing.

639
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.360
Yeah, exactly. And that's how
the and and by the way, I've

640
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:59.800
tracked down how those HSCA cassettes became
available long before the ARRB ever got him.

641
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:06.559
Probably the ARRB got those cassettes from
an assassination researcher. Actually, that's

642
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.760
the only reason why they have the
audio recordings from the HSCA. There's a

643
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:15.440
whole strange story about that because they
weren't officially entered into the National Archives until

644
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:22.239
nineteen ninety five. So yeah,
I'm thinking that this is one of those

645
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.760
things that oddly floated amongst us tape
traders that ended up in the National Archives.

646
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.400
Anyway, we'll get to more of
that and more stuff that is probably

647
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.199
boring some people to tears because they
don't care. But you and I could

648
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.920
have these discussions anyway. Jimmy,
let me put you on hold for now

649
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.480
and get around to another caller if
you don't mind, be pete unless you

650
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:45.000
want to add something to that part
of the discussion about the Kennedy case and

651
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.440
all. No, just keep in
mind when you want to take a break,

652
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:53.639
is airing a schedule for ten,
and we're going to have to stop

653
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.719
at ten. Yeah, we're going
to have to stop at ten. So

654
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.159
yeah, I should try and move
things along better. Yeah, I figure

655
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.199
where you want to put a break
in there. You can bring a caller

656
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:06.920
in and we can go to break, or we can go to breaking and

657
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.039
bring them after. Either way.
Yeah, let's bring in the caller first,

658
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:12.960
see what he's got on his mind, you know, because it's our

659
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.880
friend, I think it's our friend
Vance And let's bring. Is that you

660
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:22.000
vance? Yes, sir, there
you go. So are you still doing

661
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:28.960
the Saturday Night Anarchy thing? Yeah? Yeah, we're doing it tomorrow night.

662
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.079
Excellent. So you guys, if
you go over to Twitter, that's

663
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.679
an easy way to go find it. But you can find it on Tom

664
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.639
Cooper's feed on Twitter, and I
think you could probably find it on the

665
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.719
the vanarchy feed on Twitter. What
is your Twitter handle? By the way,

666
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.760
I think it's anarchy because I don't
really officially. I just like posted

667
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.119
one time and they said the post
you got to sign up through his account,

668
00:51:54.199 --> 00:52:00.559
and the one that came up was
an old account Yahoo count that I

669
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:05.960
don't could have anymore. So I
think I like posted the reply to one

670
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.119
of Tom's things or something, and
so now I'm one, there is ban

671
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:13.199
archy. It might be banarchy sixty
one. I don't remember. Okay,

672
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.800
well look at it this way.
If people it's not something that I don't

673
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.239
necessarily follow it or post anything there
or you know, get any notifications or

674
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.840
well, no problem. But if
people find Tom Cooper TNP on Twitter,

675
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:31.400
you'll get the live feed of Saturday
Night Anarchy starting at what is it eight

676
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:39.559
pm Eastern right tomorrow night. Yeah, yeah, seventh Central, eight pm

677
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:45.320
Eastern. There you go on the
New Prisoners Network over there, so you

678
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.320
can get it through their Rumble channel, through Twitter, a bunch of different

679
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:52.679
places, but starting at eight pm
Eastern tomorrow night, and you'll hear from

680
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.679
Vance on his own show. Anyways, wanted to get that out of the

681
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:59.639
way before I asked you what was
entirely on your mind this week? Vance?

682
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:07.519
And are you, by the way, fantastic? Pretty good because I

683
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.639
don't live in Palestine, so you
know, it could be worse, That's

684
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.079
true. You don't have bombs flying
over your head every day. So yeah,

685
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:20.199
we got a frame of reference.
You know. Nowadays, it's like,

686
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.280
you know, even with that being
there, it's like, hey,

687
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.480
well it could be worse, you
know, it's it's it's amazing that it's

688
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:32.719
not. You know. One of
the the highlights of you know, recent

689
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.239
happenings is you know, the criminal
court case against them by South Africa that's

690
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.320
going on, you know, and
I see Jay and all that, so

691
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.440
you know, I'm thankful at least
that there's going to be some exposure to

692
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.840
what I'm you know, considered to
be the reality of you know, what

693
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.360
they're accused of for a long time, so maybe we can move past that

694
00:53:54.559 --> 00:54:00.440
and actually get to some sort of
peace and in that region. Well,

695
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.000
I saw, you know, some
of the political talking heads saying stuff like,

696
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.840
you know, is this going to
be the end of international law because

697
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.719
they're not going to adhere to anything
that comes out of that court anyway.

698
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.320
And I'm thinking to myself, since
when have any of the international courts been

699
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.719
able to enforce anything? You know? So it is what it is,

700
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:21.440
I mean, And hey, you
could also be in Ukraine at this point,

701
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:23.639
which, by the way, I
found that story interesting, which I

702
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:29.639
covered with Larry on was it Wednesday, you know, this whole thing with

703
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:35.280
the Russian plane that went down and
they immediately claimed that it was full of

704
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:42.000
prisoners to be exchanged with Ukraine,
and that claim floated by the story disappeared,

705
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.639
But it turns out that that's not
what was on that plane. Plus

706
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:52.360
it was clearly on its way to
or from Iran at the time, according

707
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:55.239
to what people could figure out.
And one wonders, you know, do

708
00:54:55.400 --> 00:55:00.800
you keep your prisoners of war from
Ukraine in Iran? I don't think so.

709
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:05.280
It was going from Iran. By
the way, I was thinking there

710
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.840
per second. That's right. It
was going from Iran on its way to

711
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:13.239
Russia. So you know, not
saying I know what's on the plane or

712
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.920
anything else, or that a country
which is currently in the midst of a

713
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:22.400
conflict is going to be entirely transparent
about anything they share, because that would

714
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:28.559
just be strategically unsound. But I
found that story interesting. Did you see

715
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:34.119
that this week? Did you say
Iran? It was supposed to be something

716
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.280
from Iran? Yeah, a Russian
plane was taken down, like one of

717
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:43.719
their transport planes, big transport plane, and they typically use it to transport

718
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:49.079
you know, large items or large
amounts of things generally used by the military,

719
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:54.039
and it appears to have been possibly
shot down, but it kind of

720
00:55:54.119 --> 00:56:00.400
departed from Iran. Now, Russia
claimed that it was loaded with you Krainian

721
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:06.320
prisoners of war that they were getting
ready to exchange with Ukraine. But oddly,

722
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:07.880
when you track down to people on
the list, it turns out some

723
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.280
of them had already been released,
some of them are dead, not just

724
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.880
this week but months ago, so
you know, weird list, and it

725
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:22.079
turns out maybe they weren't telling the
truth. And besides, it was departing

726
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.159
from Iran on its way to Russia, which you know, I'm not saying

727
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.800
I know what the purpose of that
flight was, but it doesn't seem to

728
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:36.440
me as though they would keep Ukrainian
prisoners of war in Iran to bring back

729
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.599
to Russia or Ukraine or whatever.
And the plane was clearly on its way

730
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:44.840
to Russia. So anyway, there's
that. But I was wondering if you

731
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.760
saw that story or he had any
thoughts on it. No, I didn't

732
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.480
see it. But you know,
how many prisoners are we talking about?

733
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.880
You know, I mean I'm picturing
like a Sea one thirty or some kind

734
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.400
of cargo plane like that. So
yeah, it's like how many seats?

735
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:07.039
You know, were you gonna how
many people it was? Were they claiming

736
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:08.800
we're supposed to be on the plane? Well, a plane like that,

737
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.679
Yeah, a plane similar to like
one of those C one thirties, I

738
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:17.800
think in its uses not necessarily its
design number one number two to my understanding,

739
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:23.440
and it may be a misunderstanding of
initial translations, but it seemed to

740
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:29.079
me as though they were stating there
was like thirty or forty prisoners on there,

741
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:32.760
which is not you know, indicative
of a large plane. Could have

742
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:37.679
been carrying other stuff too, I
guess. But turns out that a lot

743
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:42.599
of the people they listed as supposedly
being casualties were not, you know,

744
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:50.400
legitimately around they'd already been returned to
Ukraine or had been declared dead some of

745
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.679
them, so the list was questionable. And then again it was something that

746
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.719
came from Iran, so I guess
you didn't see all the details on it.

747
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.079
I know I didn't see all the
details, but I found it curious

748
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.519
and it was one of those things
again that I discussed with Larry, and

749
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.400
I'm sure the link is with the
show notes on it. But okay,

750
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.440
anyway, Hey, if you didn't
see you didn't see it. Anything else

751
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.880
on your mind this week? Vance, No, I'm just my kind of

752
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:22.199
point of reference was about the Israel
stuff. Is you know, at least

753
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.880
I don't really expect that the criminal
court is going to do any you know,

754
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:31.159
but at least it's it's you know, changed people are getting exposed to

755
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:37.280
it and and going to be more
open minded to you know, you know,

756
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.039
not be as supportive as they you
know, think they should be,

757
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:46.400
because there's legitimate, you know,
pause for concern about the you know,

758
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.079
there's the whole structure of what's been
going on and will continue to go on

759
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.480
if something doesn't happen to you know, make that not appealing. Well,

760
00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:01.760
a few things happened this week too
where there was what some sort of I

761
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:06.360
don't know if it was a truck
or a plane something was blown up which

762
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:10.000
was supposed to contain supplies, and
initially they had said that it was going

763
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.800
to be you know, humanitarian relief
that was coming in, and you know,

764
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:19.760
as per usual in an active,
live firing situation, you got accusations

765
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.199
that are going to fly back and
forth. Again. This is something that

766
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.320
I kind of discussed openly with Larry
on Wednesday. You know, where it's

767
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.480
like, do you expect to get
the straight story from anybody? Doesn't mean

768
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.880
they're a good guy, bad guy, they're on the right side, wrong

769
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.679
side during a conflict, you're not
going to get completely transparent stories about these

770
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:45.639
things. And certainly there's a lot
of questions going on, and frankly,

771
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.400
there seems to be a tide turning
as far as the information war out there,

772
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.360
where you know, there might be
people starting to question some of this.

773
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:59.440
At least I think at all times
you should question before a whole.

774
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.719
You know, population is gonna get
crushed one way or another. But again,

775
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:07.840
you know, we went through this
many times and it is what it

776
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:12.239
is. I mean, I almost
don't want to even delve into it anymore

777
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.440
because it's just gonna be bloody,
nasty. There's gonna be a lot of

778
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:21.280
lives lost, and I think there's
gonna be tons and tons of innocent people

779
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.079
that are gonna die one way or
another, no matter where you want to

780
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.239
place them on, which side or
the other. I think there's gonna be

781
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.079
a lot of death and destruction that's
gonna come from this situation, and it's

782
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:35.400
spreading out a bit. I mean, we also have this interesting thing going

783
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:42.199
on with Yemen and supposedly slowing down
Huthi's right, who seem to pop right

784
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:46.599
back up and counterattack every time.
US assets are bombing the hell out of

785
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:52.800
places in Yemen. And all of
this is in support of this circumstance in

786
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.920
that part of the world. Right, So, I think there's a lot

787
01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:00.519
of mess to be discovered and covered
coming in the very near future, and

788
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.079
I do wonder what role it's going
to play. By the way, in

789
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.000
presidential politics, have you noticed any
of that stuff lately. And oh,

790
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:12.840
by the way, you're in Texas, any comments on you know, the

791
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:17.800
Supreme Court ruling with the barbed wire
border patrol clashes, any of that stuff.

792
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:23.039
Were people talking about that in Texas
that you know? Man's I'll tell

793
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:28.280
you what. In the last like
three four days, this last week,

794
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:35.679
I would say, I've had three
people asked me about what I would think

795
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:40.039
about seceding, So that this whole
dynamic is leading to a you know a

796
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.880
lot of people, you know,
regular people going, we just need to

797
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.760
succeed because you know, if we
can't even control our own borders, then

798
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.840
you know, what, what what
is the what's the point of that?

799
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:54.039
You know, so you know that
might that might backfire on them a little

800
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:59.199
bit, but not that it's gonna
happen necessarily. See, Yeah, I'm

801
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.440
thankful for that. It's like,
yeah, let's just you know, screw

802
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:07.119
will this declare independence and we'll control
our border. You'll control your borders,

803
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.639
and you know, we'll be like
the you know, sixteenth largest Gdpe.

804
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.760
You know, there's all those kind
of Yeah, you know, I'm quite

805
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:21.039
confident the lone Star state. I
remember studying why is the Texas flag designed

806
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.199
the way it is right because it
was an independent nation at one point,

807
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:30.199
and there have been various incarnations of
a movement to secede. Republic of Texas.

808
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.400
I used to go on a radio
show called the Republic of Texas Show,

809
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.880
uh, and they literally have people
constantly discussing this concept of maybe Texas

810
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:44.599
ought to just be Texas and say
to hell with the United States entirely right,

811
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.800
you know, but I think that
would be a poor strategy, considering

812
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:52.719
that would give them too foreign borders
to contend with. If indeed they were

813
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:57.880
allowed to secede, you know what
I mean, you'd have Mexico. Still.

814
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:04.880
Yeah, I can understand the logical, you know, the assumption of

815
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.280
that, you know, based on
geography or whatever. But you know,

816
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:13.400
like we're really worried that Oklahoma's going
to invade us, or Louisiana or you

817
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:16.880
know, I mean, I don't
think we really have to do, you

818
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:22.760
know, as America just gonna consider
us, you know, like you know,

819
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:24.360
Gaza and just you know, do
what they want to us, you

820
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:28.039
know, because we decided we don't
want to be part of their you know,

821
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.360
little little grift anymore. So well, you know, I'm just talking

822
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:36.880
out loud here, I got nobody
the aspirations is this actually gonna happen?

823
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:39.400
See to me? Strategically, again, it opens up a lot of strangeness

824
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.679
because you could have serious issues with
people who are a little pissed that you

825
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:50.519
decided to secede from America and you're
bordered on three sides by that, you

826
01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:52.159
know, who are like, hey, you know what, you're the anti

827
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:55.119
Americans. You're not with us,
right, You're you're not with us,

828
01:03:55.199 --> 01:04:00.360
You must be with the terrorists of
some kind. I mean, but how

829
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:04.800
many, but how many? But
how many people in in our world are

830
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:09.320
just fed up with the whole government, you know, the whole federal government

831
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:11.760
system one way or the other.
You know, there's people on the left

832
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.239
or fed up people in the right
better you know, you know. So

833
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:17.760
it's like, you know, there's
no question that they're way beyond their you

834
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:24.559
know, legitimate you know, realm
of authority and controlling you know, resources

835
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.559
and land and access to you and
throw and you know all that things.

836
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:32.239
So you know that, you know, I'm not really worried about that.

837
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:36.639
I would think it would encourage other
states to want to do the same thing,

838
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:44.519
and their own resources and their own
education system and not have to worry,

839
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:46.960
you know what the federal government's going
to force them see. And that's

840
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:50.320
the thing is, I always thought
that the states did have supremacy over that

841
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:55.320
kind of stuff. So there's a
lot of arguments to be made. But

842
01:04:55.719 --> 01:05:00.559
here we go again, right it's
it's it's an interesting thought, for sure,

843
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.199
But then again, I always thought
it was an interesting thought. Why

844
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:08.199
don't we just direct a serious wall
all the way around the island of Manhattan

845
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:12.000
and turn it into a prison,
because that would make lots of sense.

846
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.639
Holy crap, I just went escape
from New York, didn't I be Pete.

847
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:20.199
Maybe it'll get stranger as we go
forward on a Friday night, maybe

848
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:26.599
not. Maybe we'll talk about the
secession secessionist movement, Maybe we'll talk about

849
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.400
some other stuff. Maybe we'll get
into Egen, Carol, Donald Trump,

850
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:33.280
DeSantis, what's going on in politics, or who knows whatever else. You

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upon the great crusades. The eyes
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hopes and prayers of liberty loving people
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895
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our brave allies and brothers in arms. On the other front. Your tent

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and battle heart. He will fight
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The free men of the world are
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899
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and let us all be pickings of
almighty gods upon this great and noble under

900
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saying Friars Day night open mic.
Three one nine five two seven five zero

901
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one six. That is the number
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seven five zero one six. We
are live. The mic is open.

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I'm not gonna take another break,
and we're gonna get to the two new

904
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:44.239
callers who have joined us and get
back around to the old callers as fast

905
01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:47.079
as we can. But first let's
hear from my co host b Pete and

906
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:51.039
let it give us a rundown of
what's at the top of his news feed.

907
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:56.720
Well, I mean, this is
just stuff I'm picking up from uh

908
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.439
around the world, and we'll start
with the financial crisis as they're calling it.

909
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:08.560
Apparently hedge funds been a billion dollars
on Germany's continued economic decline. Apparently

910
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:12.319
they've been on the downturn here for
a little bit, and their predictive it's

911
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:16.079
going to continue. We've had to
deal with interest rates and pretty high inflation

912
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:23.119
since this last administration pulled their train
into the circus tent setup shop. But

913
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:29.279
it could be worse. Turkey hikes
their interest rates again to forty five percent

914
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:32.600
after inflation near sixty five percent,
So just keep in mind, people,

915
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:36.800
it could be worse. We've had
a lot of Trump trials in the news

916
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:43.479
here recently, and apparently down in
Georgia where Fanny Willis is deciding to try

917
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:50.000
to hit Trump on a Rico's statute
and apparently employed her boyfriend in the job

918
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:55.479
of prosecutors, paid him like six
and forty thousand dollars over the past ten

919
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:59.359
years, and he's been taking the
money and spending it on luxury trips.

920
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:03.279
The the residents down there in that
district are starting to get a little ticked

921
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:09.119
off, and they're demanding somebody to
look into the whole affair. As we

922
01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:13.039
go down the line, here's one
I find found interesting. COVID nineteen testing

923
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:17.680
firm exposed one point three million record
including patients' names, email addresses, dates

924
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:21.399
of birth, and passport numbers.
So you can thank the government for that

925
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:25.319
one, folks, making you have
to go take all those chests every week.

926
01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:29.479
I went through it for abouty I
was tired of it. Of course,

927
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:32.239
we covered our story earlier on the
FBI seizers on the safe deposit boxes.

928
01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:39.000
This is a good one. Kamala
Harris, our vice president. America

929
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.800
will lose this democracy if Trump is
elected, because he'll go after political enemies.

930
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.239
And if anybody's been paying attention over
the past few years, if you

931
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:51.720
want to know exactly what the Democrats
are doing, just look at what they're

932
01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:57.600
accusing Trump of going to do if
he gets into office, because the Democrats

933
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:01.359
been going after their political enemy since
they got in inside the White House.

934
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.760
Let's see if we go down.
A polite man robs the Chicago bank with

935
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:10.560
a note vowing to pay it back
soon, just days after being cleared of

936
01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:14.039
another bank robbery. You know,
you got to give God credit for being

937
01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:18.399
polite even in a bank robbery.
You know, it's so seldom we see

938
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:25.279
it in today's society. And maybe
maybe they'll rename that hospital borrowing. Sorry

939
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:34.760
maybe hospital well yeah up, hospitable
borrowing. No, it's a it's a

940
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:40.600
hostile loan, right because it is
a robbery and you are confronting somebody,

941
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:44.880
you're robbing them, So it's a
hostile loan right because he's going to pay

942
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:50.479
it back. No, I guess
I'm sanitizing, but he's gonna do it

943
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:56.840
soon. That's the important thing.
Course he'll pay it back. On Trump's

944
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:01.079
other legal aspects, I found this
interesting. Egen Carroll claimed a long time

945
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:08.119
back that Trump assaulted her and got
a civil court case against him and won

946
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.600
it. They had to pay him
some money. Well after she won,

947
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:15.680
Trump said she was liared. Well, she filed a defamation claim and that

948
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:20.800
just got settled today for like eighty
three point three million. But there's a

949
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:27.319
report out there. The dress.
Egen Carroll, the woman who sued former

950
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:31.479
President Donald Trump for defamation for denying
her claims that he sexually assaulted her in

951
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.600
a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the
early nineteen nineties, claimed she war during

952
01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:41.279
the alleged attack, did not exist
at the time. Trump's lawyer pointed out

953
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.520
Carol's second defamation trial against Trump is
underway, and we know it got settled

954
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:50.039
today. Notably, Trump is not
facing criminal charges in these cases. Carol

955
01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:55.920
first went public for the story in
twenty nineteen. However, it turns out

956
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:59.359
the dress that she claims she was
wearing was not even available at that date.

957
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:00.840
So I'm sure you're going to see
that when it comes appeal time.

958
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:05.239
Because Trump lawyer said today on the
eighty three point three million that they were

959
01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:11.079
definitely going to final an appeal on
it. Let's see RFK, Like I

960
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:14.479
said earlier, r K Junior says
he's got enough figurtures qualified for the new

961
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:19.279
Hampshire ballot November. Good luck to
him. Hopefully he can make it nationwide

962
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:25.800
and everybody will have a chance.
Survey reveals extreme bias towards January sixth defendants

963
01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:32.680
among potential DC jurors. Sorry,
that's interesting. Let's see where. Oh

964
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:36.800
yes, here's another one. Trump
trade advisor Peter Navarro was sayd its to

965
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:44.760
four months for ignoring a January sixth
subpoena from the committee that was overseeing that.

966
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:47.239
And this is what a lot of
people are interested in because, as

967
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:54.399
we all know, Haunter Biden,
you just ignored the subpoena to provide sim

968
01:20:54.479 --> 01:21:01.159
testimony in front of Congress. It
seems to be part of the new normal.

969
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:06.399
Do what I think it's part of
the new normal, b Pete.

970
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:11.319
I mean ignoring subpoenas has been going
on for the past six years. In

971
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:14.119
every headline, it seems like,
you know, Trump ignored this subpoena.

972
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:17.520
Then he shows up at court cases
where he doesn't need to other defendants,

973
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:20.439
you know, that were connected to
him for this and that they lied to

974
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:25.680
the FBI. Blah blah. They
ignored this subpoena that remember we had discussions

975
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:28.640
on this show about ignoring the subpoena
from Congress. What can they do?

976
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:32.319
Well, if somebody's in DC,
they can go send their personal little police

977
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:36.000
force to go collect them and throw
them in a cell right there in DC.

978
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:42.000
But they don't. And people are
just kind of ignoring some subpoenas.

979
01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:45.319
You know, it's like a la
carte right at a menu, you pick

980
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.479
and choose what you want to show
up for or not. And uh,

981
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:53.119
do both parties do this? Yes, they do. You know it just

982
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:56.600
if you have privilege, you know, you get to carry the card with

983
01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.520
privilege. And some cards have ours
on them and some have d on them.

984
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:02.119
So you know, if you're Hunter
Biden, maybe you don't show up.

985
01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:06.640
If you're you know, Trump's people, you don't know about it is.

986
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.199
You know, the Justice Department now
has to decide, you know,

987
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:15.720
are they going to press charges against
Hunter Biden? Uh? Congress recommended the

988
01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:20.840
charges because Biden this little stunton didn't
show up. So it's going to be

989
01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:29.520
very interesting to see if Joe Biden's
Democrat Department of Justice goes after his own

990
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.640
son. Well, I have to
wait and see, not though, because

991
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:38.600
you know why you're sing this.
You know, the Hunter Biden investigation started

992
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:44.079
under Trump and continued under Biden.
Uh and and we've seen all sorts of

993
01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:45.760
selective enforcement. It's wonderful. I'll
tell you what, though, I do

994
01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:49.000
not advise you try playing the home
game. Not just you, be Pete,

995
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:51.720
but anybody hearing the sound in my
voice. You know, when you

996
01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:57.399
don't show up for anything, including
a parking ticket. You know, these

997
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:01.520
judges they issue these things called bench
warrants and come after your ass. I'm

998
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:05.399
just saying, if you're on the
docket or you've been subpoena and you don't

999
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:10.119
go, I would not advise playing
that game at home. But if you're

1000
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:14.439
part of the white collar world or
the political elite structure in one way or

1001
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:17.119
another, even if you're an alleged
outsider, you can play that game.

1002
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:20.479
You know, you cannot show up
for stuff. You can wait for somebody

1003
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:24.039
to you know, turn around and
pardon you, even if you haven't been

1004
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.560
convicted. I mean, it's just
the way of the world at this point.

1005
01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:30.560
If you're in a privileged position,
so you know, whether you're Hunter

1006
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.520
Biden, or you're part of the
Trump team, or you know, you

1007
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:38.159
happen to be hooked up with Mike
Lindell. I mean, you know,

1008
01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:42.119
the MyPillow guy. They're out there
by the way pleading please support my company

1009
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:46.640
because I'm you know, being destroyed
through legal piece Mike Lindell. But I

1010
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:49.960
don't know anybody who actually personally owns
one of those my pillows? Do you?

1011
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:56.800
Yes? I do? Oh,
you do really cool stuff. I

1012
01:23:56.880 --> 01:24:00.319
mean, is it good? Is
a good product? Really? I say

1013
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:01.960
it is. It says quality,
it does what he says he does,

1014
01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:05.760
so cool enough. But he's got
he's got so many products out there now.

1015
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:11.039
Everything's on sale. He's been having
a sale going on for what well,

1016
01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:15.199
fintasy election since he got caught up
in the claims about the voting machines

1017
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:18.199
and that right, Uh, everything's
been on sale. Well, he needed

1018
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:21.239
to put all those well, he
needed to put all that other betting stuff

1019
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:25.439
on sale because I think he ordered
too much of it and he forgot he's

1020
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:29.359
supposed to be just to my pillow
guy, and you should just sell pillows

1021
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:31.840
because he didn't do so well.
You know, he was blaming the loss

1022
01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:35.439
in business on uh, you know, on on the bad publicity. But

1023
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:40.079
I think really it was about nobody
wants to buy sheets from you. Dude.

1024
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:43.520
You do look a little creepy and
crazy, like you're the cousin of

1025
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:47.640
Paul Behr from the w w F
days. But yeah, I have talked

1026
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:50.640
to people. He does have quality
products. It's not that people don't want

1027
01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:56.880
to buy sheets and towels and slippers
and robes and pillows. It's they don't

1028
01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:00.359
want to pay his prices. Right
well, I mean, you know,

1029
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:03.720
by what fifty percent or more?
And he's cleaning out the warehouse. He's

1030
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:06.720
got a lot of stuff on back
war now. So yeah, I mean

1031
01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:10.079
it's a good idea to go ahead
and unloaded. But he does have a

1032
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:15.079
lot of legal expenses and he has
a trial coming up, does he not?

1033
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:19.039
You know, I don't know that
against the voting company. Yeah,

1034
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:23.840
I think that, I think I
don't I don't recall, but I think

1035
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:28.960
this is more of a bad business
decision to try and you know, expand

1036
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:32.159
his boutique business where he shouldn't have
because, like you said, people didn't

1037
01:25:32.159 --> 01:25:34.920
want to pay the exorbitant price.
Don't care what your thread count is,

1038
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:39.159
dude, I got to just be
able to cover my bed without going broke.

1039
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:41.960
Uh, And that was what the
problem was. But the pillow,

1040
01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:45.159
Listen, if it's quality, it's
quality, it works. Which, by

1041
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:47.159
the way, I wanted to and
I meant to play this before when you

1042
01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:51.079
were talking EG and Carroll, just
just because you know, I think we

1043
01:25:51.159 --> 01:26:13.279
should remind people what it's all about. Anyway, I just wanted to remind

1044
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:16.000
people that's what it was all about, allegedly in a department store with what,

1045
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:21.640
no film, no dress apparently and
nothing but a claim and eighty six

1046
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:26.840
million dollars. I mean, anybody
would definitely appeal that, whether he's right

1047
01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:29.239
wrong, did it or didn't.
And by the way, if he can't

1048
01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:32.880
smell his fingers, I bet he
doesn't remember. But anyhow, let's move

1049
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:36.439
on, Bepete. I'm sorry I
kind of made us digress, and we

1050
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:43.239
have other callers I want to get
to, so go ahead. I'm trying

1051
01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:46.319
to figure out what the hell that
was you played. Oh it's a fingerbang,

1052
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:54.159
the Imaginary boy Band hit song from
Eric Cartman on South Park when he

1053
01:26:54.279 --> 01:27:00.840
wanted to make ten million dollars with
his boy band, Yeah finger bang,

1054
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:06.439
all right to oh, just a
few other things here. Apparently Europe is

1055
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:12.760
going to the right, which is
alarming a bunch of people. Apparently the

1056
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:17.439
says there's an e CFR study that
the populist right could come in first place

1057
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:23.319
in nine e U countries, increasing
to twenty five percent of the European Parliament.

1058
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:28.760
Apparently the right leaning parties were really
getting strong in Germany too. They're

1059
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:31.840
having a lot of issues over there
before some In fact, a German hotel

1060
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:38.039
chain owned by Goldman Sachs changes is
logo to signal opposition to right leading parties.

1061
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:43.439
That's pretty bad when it started getting
into the advertising. But Europe's a

1062
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:47.279
mess. At least we're not Europe. Other than that, just looking through

1063
01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:56.399
the last of the list here to
do. Oh interesting story on hot air.

1064
01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:03.720
You know our famous naked news guy
Cody, Oh god, what was

1065
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:09.119
his name? You mean the guy
who started with the whole like naked going

1066
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:13.199
to people's houses, banging on their
trailers and trying to carjack them while he's

1067
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:16.760
naked. That guy, Yeah,
yeah, then naked Frank frauds. Swimmer

1068
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:19.439
guy tried to break in the trailer. You know, he was caught on

1069
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:26.600
a RING camera. But lady that
the story started on the first place that

1070
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:30.319
he tried to go and steal a
car started banging on her trailer door.

1071
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:38.600
Well, it appears that Ring has
changed their policy. When they started this,

1072
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:42.279
they had an app that people could
put on their phones and use,

1073
01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:46.399
and the police department used this app
and if they had something go on in

1074
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:51.680
a neighborhood, they could go on
to the app and find who had Ring

1075
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:58.359
service in the area and they could
send them a private message asking if they

1076
01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:01.520
could see their footage of what was
going on out on the street. Right.

1077
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:06.359
Well, in twenty twenty one,
they disabled the ability of the police

1078
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:12.840
department to send direct messages, but
it still allowed them to make public posts

1079
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:17.199
requesting to see footage, requesting help, right, And now they move that

1080
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:23.960
ability. So now basically the police
have been thrown off the app and a

1081
01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:28.279
lot of people are wondering why.
Yeah, there's been a lot off They've

1082
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:31.119
been solved through what they see on
Ring cameras well, and there's been some

1083
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:38.560
pretty hilarious stuff like the guy trying
to get inside the Ladies tailor while he's

1084
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:43.840
running around that. There's whole TV
shows actually devoted to you know, they're

1085
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:46.199
called like Caught on Camera and this
and that, and they're very cheaply produced

1086
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:51.319
by you know, these share shows
that they have where you know, they

1087
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:55.439
give you a show for free and
then they get to keep certain sponsors and

1088
01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:59.439
then they sell sponsorships and you just
put it on your network. They have

1089
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:02.079
these deals, these trade TV shows
that are out there to you know,

1090
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:08.760
be filler for cable channels. Right
anyway, I happen to know something about

1091
01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:13.039
this due to a recent incident where
guess what, Yeah, okay, so

1092
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:18.359
the police department, through its official
channels no longer has certain abilities. However,

1093
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:25.960
they've gotten around it by simply having
a police officer or a detective or

1094
01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:30.600
somebody like that sign up. So
as a customer, there's like some sort

1095
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:35.479
of a customer way of contacting people
on and it's not necessarily Ring because Ring

1096
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:42.039
changed its policy due to privacy concerns, but a couple of different there's a

1097
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.000
bunch of these companies now that offer
you this service, you know, where

1098
01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.039
you can put an app on your
phone and here's your camera and there's cheap

1099
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:49.439
ones. I mean you could get
them for like thirty bucks for your house

1100
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:53.640
if you want it be Pete and
then you know the app if you want

1101
01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:56.920
to upgrade it to make it do
extra stuff, and so you can talk

1102
01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:00.439
back to whoever's there. Like let's
just say you're not home and you want

1103
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:02.199
to be able to talk to somebody
who's like trying to break into your house.

1104
01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:04.960
You know where you go. Hey, I see you, you're breaking

1105
01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:08.079
into my house. I'm gonna call
the cops, you know, and they'll

1106
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.880
run away this kind of thing,
even though you're not home at all,

1107
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.439
but they think you are because they
hear your voice. You don't necessarily have

1108
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:19.119
access to that stuff, but there's
a way of speaking to each other if

1109
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:24.520
you have ring apps where they're supposed
to work together. Like say there's a

1110
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.600
bunch of people in a neighborhood that
have the same app. They can talk

1111
01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:30.920
to each other and cooperate with one
another. Hey, look, some guy

1112
01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:34.119
ran off my property. They ran
toward your house. Can you know?

1113
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:38.600
Can I request your footage? So
what they do is they just have somebody

1114
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:45.039
sign up as a commercial customer.
And how do I know that? Because

1115
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:50.319
this was recently done to acquire footage
due to an incident that occurred to me

1116
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:57.279
personally. So apparently somebody got one
of these, you know, commercially available

1117
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:01.840
surveillance cameras and they decided not to
use it on their residents, but at

1118
01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:06.439
their place of business, which is
you know, private property and whatnot perfectly

1119
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:11.079
legal, but the cops can just
go on there and talk to them on

1120
01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:13.840
the forum and be like, hey, you're over here in this neighborhood,

1121
01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:19.119
we need to get a hold of
some footage, and police will routinely still,

1122
01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:25.399
you know, and sheriff's departments specifically
will routinely show up and make requests

1123
01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:30.479
of businesses or even private property owners. Can we have access just directly,

1124
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:31.760
face to face. Can we get
a hold of this? You know?

1125
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:38.000
So and businesses usually cooperate with it, but I think there was some sort

1126
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:42.319
of privacy concerns where people were worried
about them getting a hold of stuff that

1127
01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.560
wasn't relevant, you know, like
the cops come and ask for can we

1128
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:49.720
have access to your ring? And
you know, we need to see you

1129
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.720
know, all of last night,
and then they wind up checking last week,

1130
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:57.840
you know, and there you are
on your own ring camera buying weed

1131
01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:01.239
from your local guy, and you
just gave them evidence of a prime you

1132
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:08.880
committed right in some jurisdictions, right. So I don't know, it's a

1133
01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:11.439
weird, twisted question, but I
know there's ways around it. So I

1134
01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:15.079
don't know that the police don't have
access to it, but they don't have

1135
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:19.880
the same access they used to have
and ring. I think this was like

1136
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:23.680
a corporate decision. I don't think
this is like some sort of law or

1137
01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:26.079
anything else. I wonder if it's
been tested in court, do you know,

1138
01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:30.359
Well, no, it's a corporate
decision. I mean, it's their

1139
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.600
policy to deny the cops the ability
to use the app, but that can't

1140
01:33:33.720 --> 01:33:36.439
that doesn't stop the cops from being
able to go up and knock on the

1141
01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:40.720
door and go, hey, you
know we saw on the app you've got

1142
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.159
a ring camera. Can you help
us out? Let us look at your

1143
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:46.079
footage? And if they say no, cops go and if they really want

1144
01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:49.159
it, they'll go get a warrant. So the privacy issue, somebody was

1145
01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:54.640
arguing privacy and they said, well, you know, the ring cameras are

1146
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.720
pointed out in public once you leave
your house and you're in your front yard.

1147
01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:01.960
You're in public. You know,
anybody can film you doing whatever you're

1148
01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:06.159
doing in your front yard, so
it's probably not a privacy concern you you

1149
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:10.920
don't have to give up the footage. Well, you know that's what cops,

1150
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:14.640
right, get a warrant for it. But that I don't know.

1151
01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:18.119
It just it just seems like they're
making it more difficult for cops to be

1152
01:34:18.199 --> 01:34:23.720
able to engage with the community to
get things like that. You know,

1153
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:27.039
why take them off the app There's
really no point in it. They could,

1154
01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:30.119
you know, because it was done
discreetly at first, they would send

1155
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.720
a private message. Yeah, they
removed that. Then the cops had to

1156
01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:36.119
make a public appeal for help,
you know, post one a in the

1157
01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:42.439
in the Brentwood neighborhood. You know
this night, anybody's got footage, can

1158
01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:45.039
you let us know, can we
look at it? We're looking for you

1159
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:46.920
know stuff. Yeah see, but
but that's the thing. I know,

1160
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:50.800
there's no way of there was no
public appeal to get footage, you know,

1161
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:56.600
from say January fourth of this year
that it was done still privately,

1162
01:34:56.760 --> 01:34:59.520
still done that way, And I
don't know, it's a weird thing,

1163
01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:02.439
like remember when there was a controversy
over you know, the Apple phones are

1164
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:06.359
locked and they're not letting law enforcement
get access and they might be protecting terrorists

1165
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:11.439
Apple and remember that, And you
know it was like much ado about nothing,

1166
01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:15.560
I thought, because it was like
they had proprietary technology. And no,

1167
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.840
they don't want to give them the
keys to unlock anybody's Apple phone because

1168
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:23.439
that would clearly be abused. And
by the way, I mean, try

1169
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:26.560
and get a tech to help you
unlock your own damn phone from Apple.

1170
01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:31.279
And I say this fully with my
daughter working for them. Now you know

1171
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:34.960
that's difficult enough. I don't know. Sometimes I think some of these things

1172
01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.960
are a little much ado about nothing. And do the cops need absolute,

1173
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.960
you know, reach in all places. Maybe not. Maybe it does need

1174
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.319
to be a little difficult to obtain
stuff nowadays, if you think about if

1175
01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:49.520
these tech company phone companies, hell, they just give the information to the

1176
01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:53.239
cop, to the FEDS for free, if you've got a high enough level

1177
01:35:53.399 --> 01:35:56.640
of enforcement. I mean, it
may not want to do it with local

1178
01:35:56.680 --> 01:36:00.319
cops. But the FBI goes to
Apple and says, hey, we want

1179
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:03.199
the date off this guy's phone.
Okay, well here's his system, here's

1180
01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:08.039
his provider, go to them,
they should be able to provide you everything.

1181
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:11.520
Well, remember, yeah, there's
ways to get around them. Yeah,

1182
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:15.039
definitely, And remember there was that
that would go out of their way

1183
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:16.319
to make it harder for the cops
to be able to do their job.

1184
01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:18.920
Yeah. But see, on the
one side, I get that. But

1185
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:23.079
on the other side, I also
get that it might be just bs and

1186
01:36:23.479 --> 01:36:27.920
moaning from the law enforcement community because
they kind of complained about it a lot.

1187
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.840
With that Brandon Laundry situation. Remember
the missing girl and then he went

1188
01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:34.800
out in the woods and killed himself. That kid, there was a complaint

1189
01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:40.720
because Apple didn't immediately give them the
data they wanted, you know, just

1190
01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:44.319
by them asking, and they were
saying, well, you're endangering this girl's

1191
01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:46.680
Like, well, you know what
what would you have done in the days

1192
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:50.560
before a cell phone? Okay,
come on, there's other ways around this.

1193
01:36:50.720 --> 01:36:55.560
And I'm sure that you could put
a mechanism in place where reasonable requests

1194
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.439
could be met when it's necessary.
But I don't think the police should have

1195
01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:02.439
carte blonde to dig through everybody's digital
data all the time. It seems as

1196
01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.840
though they got too much of that
at one point, and you know,

1197
01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.359
so so to me, it's like
it's a mixed thing. You know,

1198
01:37:09.439 --> 01:37:13.840
it's not necessarily all one way,
but people will grab it and yell.

1199
01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:16.039
Either it's a violation, it's a
violation of my rights. You know,

1200
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:20.279
I have a right to my digital
data? Do you number one? Number

1201
01:37:20.279 --> 01:37:25.399
two? You know, if it's
not a violation, if it is a

1202
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:29.640
clear and normal thing, could it
be abused by law enforcement? Yes,

1203
01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:32.760
anything can be. And I don't
know. I got mixed, mixed bag

1204
01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:35.279
of feelings about this, and think
to myself, you know, do you

1205
01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:41.600
actually own your digital data and your
digital self anyway? And once you engage

1206
01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:46.079
in the you know, interwebs,
what happens big open questions anyways, for

1207
01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:49.239
more open questions, I want to
go to Harlan, who's waiting on the

1208
01:37:49.319 --> 01:37:53.960
line, and we may have another
caller after that, and then I want

1209
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:57.760
to get back around to people.
So, Harlan, what's on your mind

1210
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:00.960
this week? Because we are going
to have to cut off right around what's

1211
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:05.319
happening? Man, I'm just trying
to leave. I'm sitting there, you

1212
01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:09.960
know, hitting a salad liquor two, trying to get back and swing of

1213
01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:15.399
things I got in last week and
I just basically just had to get rolling,

1214
01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:17.960
and where I was at I wouldn't
have no signal. And I got

1215
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:21.079
down the road and I'm pretty much
in that shape again this week. Oh

1216
01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:25.399
I'm sorry, man, you know
you were still anybody done. I'm just

1217
01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:29.720
trying to get you know, back
in the you know, the the podcasting

1218
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:31.920
radio world, you know, fella
good a change men, And Chris Grave

1219
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.560
was supposed to done my first and
last week, and I was tied up

1220
01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:39.800
up on the ice roads. I
don't want to know what I'm ever gonna

1221
01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:43.560
get around to. Hey, fair
enough, but look last week you were

1222
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:45.920
just gone, but your your phone
line was still there, and I didn't

1223
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:48.680
know what happened to you. So
I was just hoping you that was a

1224
01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:51.800
week, but that was that was
a week before last. No, last

1225
01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:56.239
week, I called in, huh
and I was just I was there on

1226
01:38:56.479 --> 01:39:00.920
hold for a little while, and
uh, I'm more or less I just

1227
01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:05.199
had to go because I was afraid
that the chain law was gonna get put

1228
01:39:05.279 --> 01:39:09.039
out up the road, and I
know from here on out it was just

1229
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:12.399
gonna be in and out, in
and outside didn't even bother. And I

1230
01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:15.760
didn't want getting everybody else's way,
you know, sorry about that. All

1231
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:17.880
right, Well look man, you
got the time now, so go for

1232
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:28.119
what's on your mind. Well,
somebody sent me a story earlier. I

1233
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:31.840
heard some of the stuff that you
guys was talking about, and y'all can

1234
01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:34.640
talk about that if you want to. I know you're running close some time

1235
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:41.000
tonight. But somebody sent me a
Fox News video asked me if it was

1236
01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:45.520
true, it was gonna be over
seven hundred thousand truckers going to the border,

1237
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:50.680
and can you guys can look that
up on YouTube from Fox News,

1238
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:55.520
okay? And I just laughed.
I said, no, I do not.

1239
01:39:56.840 --> 01:40:00.119
And it's supposed to be some of
the same people the the convoys from

1240
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.239
a few years ago, supposed with
some of the guys supposed to come down

1241
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:09.520
from Canada, but the ones from
a few years ago, and they supposed

1242
01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:14.800
to have been these massive numbers.
And it looked like to me from my

1243
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:16.760
studies, and I pretty much figured
this to start with. As you know,

1244
01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:21.239
you had ten to thirty people in
most spots of the country just slow

1245
01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:27.399
rowing and I'm taking pictures like you
know, there were thousands of people.

1246
01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:30.880
You know, there was a lot
of folks out on you know, overpasses

1247
01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:31.960
and stuff like that. But from
what I got, there's a lot of

1248
01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:36.039
disappointed people too, you know,
when they and then it just kind of

1249
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:41.840
rode out from sunset and we ain't
heard from them since then. But have

1250
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:45.000
you guys heard anything like that?
Well, yeah, there's supposed to be

1251
01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:50.439
seven hundred thousand truckers. That was
on Fox Business I think was the channel

1252
01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:56.840
correctly, and was Yeah, a
convoy there calling it on its way to

1253
01:40:56.960 --> 01:41:01.079
the border in Texas, right,
which you know, I find interesting.

1254
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:04.760
I thought about the man says that
runs the truck, he don't call it

1255
01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:11.000
a con LOI. He comes with
a con LOI. Well, you know

1256
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:15.399
what, I don't blame him,
because this has a really rough history.

1257
01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:19.680
These truck or convoys which have gone
to DC a couple of times, have

1258
01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:25.359
gone to certain places and shown up
in groups and also have not shown up

1259
01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:30.520
on occasion. There was a whole
thing that went on with well, there

1260
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:34.439
was a whole thing that went on
with a fairly famous allegedly a media person

1261
01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:40.079
who is allegedly a part of the
patriot movement, who's allegedly an icon in

1262
01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:45.520
that whole section of broadcast media,
who got himself off on a charge,

1263
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:46.720
you know, claiming to be part
of the media, even though he was

1264
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:51.680
participating in something up in the northwestern
part of the country a few years back,

1265
01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:56.000
but paid no attention to that or
the gun charge he walked away from

1266
01:41:56.199 --> 01:42:01.119
in Michigan of all places. But
you know, he apparently was involved in

1267
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:04.840
something where there was a bunch of
money raised that was supposed to help out

1268
01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:09.000
these guys to pay for the fact
that they wouldn't be on the road making

1269
01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:12.239
a living, that they were going
to go together and kind of pull their

1270
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:16.319
resources together. And you know,
long before PayPal or anybody else was stealing

1271
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:23.159
the money off of truck or convoys
in Canada, apparently somebody else walked away

1272
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:28.399
with a whole lot of money raised
to support these guys. Now that's happened,

1273
01:42:28.520 --> 01:42:30.479
and there's been a couple of fictitious
things that have been floated out there

1274
01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:33.359
where they say there would be a
big gathering. I mean, much like

1275
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:40.079
the Great Antipa Uprising of what was
it twenty seventeen that was supposed to happen

1276
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:42.880
where they knew it was coming.
They knew it was coming. Antipa's coming.

1277
01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:45.239
All patriots get ready, lock and
load, stand back, and let

1278
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:50.680
local law enforcement deal with the first
wave and all that communication. And the

1279
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:55.920
next day I saw a meme where
somebody was poking an ANTIFA logo with a

1280
01:42:55.960 --> 01:42:59.560
stick saying, come on, come
on, have an uprising, CAUZ.

1281
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:04.039
Nothing happened, nobody was showing up. So we've seen fictitious things that have

1282
01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:08.399
been raised up as if they were
going to happen. We've seen things start

1283
01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:13.199
to happen and get undermined and robbed. And we've seen others where people did

1284
01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:16.520
indeed show up and make a stand
and make a point, make a scene

1285
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:21.439
if you will, in DC and
other places with these truck or convoys.

1286
01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:26.119
Again, I'm not a truck guy, so maybe I'm using the wrong terminology,

1287
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.439
but either way, we know what
we're talking about. I never put

1288
01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:32.439
any stock or paid attention to a
check. Now this is just my opinion,

1289
01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:38.000
folks. You know, I did
remember seeing a website I got through

1290
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:43.560
off of a bunch of those pages, but just asking simple questions and you

1291
01:43:43.800 --> 01:43:47.840
was attacked. I mean it was
like action, legitimate questions in a nice

1292
01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:54.079
way about you know the chosen one
used just attack, attacked and blocked.

1293
01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:59.159
And basically there was a website going
around showing where they was one of the

1294
01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:01.720
groups lected up to almost seven million
dollars, and they want up and drove

1295
01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:06.199
around DC and blew the horns.
I never did band any of it a

1296
01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:10.039
couple of years ago because I figured
it was just going to be just like

1297
01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:14.399
the other social media truck or conboys. That's all talk, and we're going

1298
01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:18.479
to do something and raw raw rod, just like the Second Amendment, you

1299
01:44:18.560 --> 01:44:21.159
know, stuff, and I'm trying
to keep it clean. Here. Do

1300
01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:26.159
you hear all this? You know, big talk like over at Richmond,

1301
01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:29.840
Virginia. Then when they got there, they was over work picking up other

1302
01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:34.720
people's trash. But I can say, you know, most of the stuff

1303
01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:38.640
that Chuck, you know, was
saying here, folks, you know,

1304
01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:42.119
I've seen some of a lot of
stuff. What I can remember, I

1305
01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:45.119
heard some of the lot of the
same things as what Chuck is talking about.

1306
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:49.640
And you know it was Hillary's famous
words, you know about the nothing

1307
01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:54.520
burger. That's about what it amounted
to. I don't know how much is

1308
01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:57.359
true of this, that and the
other, But what Chuck's hearing is the

1309
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:01.279
rumors and the stories that was af
there go ahead. Oh yeah, And

1310
01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:08.800
I knew people that legitimately wanted to
involve themselves and help right, they wanted

1311
01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:12.479
to be part of the media that
was going to help promote it. Let's

1312
01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:15.039
get more people involved. If you
make a massive stand and you show up

1313
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:19.520
in a huge group, you could
literally shut down something like DC, right,

1314
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:25.159
you could literally shut down a place
that's doing something wrong to make a

1315
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:29.159
point to make people pause. I
mean, it is the typical, like

1316
01:45:29.279 --> 01:45:31.800
you know, people do blocking traffic
kind of thing, and I watch people

1317
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:35.800
try to get legitimately involved. Yeah
that I know you're against it, but

1318
01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:42.199
I'm saying yeah because you know that
that was the part that got me.

1319
01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:46.399
And I'm not trying to blurt your
signal or sucking nobody's eyes here or the

1320
01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:49.800
place or the page or whatever.
You know, fuck it, I'm just

1321
01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:53.359
trying to live. And I mean, I just kind of it the way

1322
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:55.560
I see it. But if you
get out here on the road and you're

1323
01:45:55.600 --> 01:46:00.720
blocking the road in the truck or
you're dragging being slow, somebody could be

1324
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:05.000
going somewhere that needs to go somewhere. You can have somebody that's got a

1325
01:46:05.079 --> 01:46:09.640
family member at the hospital. All
that stuff's the wrong thing to do.

1326
01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:14.119
If they want to do that,
go to private property or go somewhere,

1327
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:16.960
get the fuck off the road,
and you go here somewhere or another,

1328
01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:20.720
and you know, do you deal
and you know you're gonna take the consequences.

1329
01:46:20.840 --> 01:46:24.960
But this getting out here on the
road, that's just making the public

1330
01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:28.840
mad, you know overall, and
I mean, I just think it's overall

1331
01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:32.159
wrong and it's dangerous. In my
opinion, is no different than if it

1332
01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:36.039
was Antifa blocking the road. You
know, get the fuck out the way.

1333
01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:42.000
You're holding people hostages. And I
and the guy said on the Fox

1334
01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:44.920
News story, you know, so
it's gonna put stuff in there, you

1335
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:47.760
know, through policies or procedures in
place to stop that. And I hope

1336
01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:51.359
nothing than that. But you know, here again, I wentn't around this

1337
01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:56.239
radio show or you know, podcasting. This shit was going on before.

1338
01:46:56.960 --> 01:47:00.640
But I hope nothing like that comes
out than just the slow rolling, the

1339
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:05.920
piling up the traffic, and you
know, everybody being cute because it's been

1340
01:47:06.039 --> 01:47:11.800
my you know, I'll say this
is my professional opinion since I'm starting my

1341
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:15.880
twenty fifth year this week. As
you get a lot of these guys,

1342
01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:18.159
they love to get out of here
and get in a fucking way and hold

1343
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:23.960
somebody up anyhow, you know,
on purpose, and when they know they're

1344
01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:27.399
doing it for spiting cause they can. And I hope nobody in these groups

1345
01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:30.640
does that, and either hope they
conduct theirselfs you know how that they need

1346
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:35.920
to. And I'm sure most of
these cats, the average person's going to

1347
01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:41.800
jump in there and they think they're
doing the right thing, but you always

1348
01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.840
got some that they want to be
cute and never forget the grift that some

1349
01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:50.960
folks is going to be running.
Well. I think at all times you

1350
01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:56.479
got to be careful of the grift, Harland. I mean because no matter

1351
01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:59.000
who you are, where you are, what you're involving yourself in. I

1352
01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:01.039
mean, even if you go back
to the occupy people or whatever else,

1353
01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:09.079
there's always going to be that element
of the grifters that have inserted themselves into

1354
01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:12.239
these things. And you can object
to them blocking stuff. Believe me,

1355
01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:16.920
New York is infamous for getting blocked
up, and you know, gridlocked over

1356
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:20.720
stuff. You don't even know what
the protest is. It's just some crap

1357
01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:24.960
going on that blocks you up.
And I'll tell you the worst thing is

1358
01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:28.279
when the president comes to town,
no matter who he is that used to

1359
01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:34.039
suck in New York City. So
you know up to you how you want

1360
01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:38.079
to take it, and I understand, but I'm just saying I know for

1361
01:48:38.159 --> 01:48:42.920
a fact that not all this stuff
is all good natured and helpful and on

1362
01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:45.600
the right side of it. No
matter how you slice it. You got

1363
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:50.079
to be careful of certain people that
are there to grift for themselves and to

1364
01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:55.319
steal from you. Because guess what, Welcome to planet Earth and welcome to

1365
01:48:55.479 --> 01:48:59.079
America. It is what it is. Am I right or am I wrong?

1366
01:49:00.399 --> 01:49:03.520
I think you're right. That's that's
kind of my opinion. And like

1367
01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:06.000
I said, I want to be
clear, I'm not saying they wouldn't a

1368
01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:13.119
lot of people that was well meaning, but I will say this right here,

1369
01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:15.319
I've got to add this, and
I'm gonna get out of the way

1370
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:18.359
to give everybody else a change to
start, especially for those of you that's

1371
01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:24.920
seen me on Facebook. The whole
harling Stone Wall gimmick got started as a

1372
01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:30.840
second account because you had here.
Again, I'm trying to be clean,

1373
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.600
I'm trying to be nice. You
had a certain section of people that was

1374
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:40.119
in on these griffs back when the
electronic clock books is coming out, and

1375
01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:44.560
it was all about like the rest
of this politics, me me, me

1376
01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:46.079
buy this T shirt, do this, that and the other. That's what

1377
01:49:46.199 --> 01:49:49.119
I seen, in my opinion.
And when you come up with what about

1378
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:53.520
this, I have about getting like
some you know, try to get some

1379
01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:57.079
exemptions so you know, you can
get the hell out of roads. You

1380
01:49:57.199 --> 01:50:00.960
run out of time. You know, we winded up getting anyway you could

1381
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:05.039
put the skies blue today it's warm
outside, and forty people go report you

1382
01:50:05.119 --> 01:50:11.359
we use in Facebook jail and eventually
you know that is how that you know

1383
01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:15.239
this is you know, the whole
Harlan thing got started because I needed something

1384
01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:20.159
other else where you could get on
Facebook and be able to use them saying

1385
01:50:20.199 --> 01:50:26.920
because I stayed in Facebook jail.
And in my opinion, the root cause

1386
01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:32.760
was coming around being around some of
this same kind of stuff. Is when

1387
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:40.399
you introduce common sense into something and
you've got people it's got vested interest or

1388
01:50:40.479 --> 01:50:42.840
they don't want to hear it,
or they want to throw it some other

1389
01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:45.600
way, then they just attack you, try to run you the you know,

1390
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:47.600
the fuck off, and there you
are. You know what I'm saying,

1391
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:53.079
right, No, absolutely true,
Garland and the thing is Look,

1392
01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:57.079
you got to you gotta have situational
awareness and all these things at all times.

1393
01:50:57.479 --> 01:51:00.439
Look, we've run right up against
the Age of Transitions here, which

1394
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:05.560
we're gonna transition too. And I
brought Aaron Franz onto my show right here

1395
01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:10.800
just to say hi to everybody.
And Aaron, can you hear me?

1396
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.359
Yes? I can? Hello.
Excellent. So we're getting ready to do

1397
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:17.760
the Age of Transitions at ten pm
Eastern, we're a little late, and

1398
01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:23.920
then eleven pm Eastern you'll transition into
the Uncle Show and that'll be live as

1399
01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.760
well. All the call lines will
remain live and loud. What do you

1400
01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:31.159
got coming up on the show tonight? Real fast before I close it out

1401
01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:35.920
and turn it over to you.
Well, we have very special guest Robbie

1402
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:41.079
Martin on the show exord to talk
tonight. It's gonna be again excellent.

1403
01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:43.760
Yeah, and I just heard from
Robbie on the Skype. I'm gonna be

1404
01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:46.880
bringing him in shortly. So here's
the thing. I'm gonna open up all

1405
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.560
the lines and we're gonna start with
Jimmy, James. Jimmy, give me

1406
01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:56.159
a final quick bullet point before we
get out of here, because we're gonna

1407
01:51:56.279 --> 01:52:03.199
drop this show real fast and get
on over to Aaron's next All right,

1408
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:08.199
Oh, I had a love issues. What was just said? I guess

1409
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:13.079
there's no time to address them from
Parlem, so I will just say that

1410
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:20.600
everybody tune in Sunday and the Lions, of course, will be advancing to

1411
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:27.199
the super Bowl to play the riggings. Ah, and everybody haven't been with

1412
01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:30.600
them, and God bless thank you. Jimmy James. Hey, listen,

1413
01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:34.600
I hope you're going to hang around
to get involved with the Uncle Show because

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he'll want to talk to you about
them Lions starting at eleven PM if you're

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around. Meanwhile, let's just hear
really quick from Vance. Vance, what's

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your final point for the week here, and try and make it quick so

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we can get on over to the
Age of Transitions. Just everybody, have

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a good weekend and try to keep
you know, positive outlook as much as

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you can, and look forward to
Aaron Show tonight. I do too,

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01:53:04.039 --> 01:53:08.359
because Robbie Martin's a great guest and
I can't wait to hear what he's got

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to say. So look, we
heard from Harlan there toward the end,

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so I'm gonna put Vance on hold. Anybody who's on hold right now.

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If you want to remain on hold
for Aaron Franz's show coming up next,

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you can do so. So I
will give the final word on the O'Kelly

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effect Friday Night open mic to my
co host b Pete, what's your closing

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01:53:29.319 --> 01:53:32.000
thought here? As we're about five
minutes late for Aaron show, I got

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to figure out a better formula.
I get used to it again. Go

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ahead, hello to Aaron and have
a good show. Everybody else, go

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support your local food banks. Go
to achelly dot com and hit the donate

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button. Other than that, we'll
see you next week. Absolutely true.

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And look, if you get involved
at o'ceelly dot com, just a quick

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message here you can sign up to
be a supporter throughout the year and end

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up with over five thousand podcasts us
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folder over the course of the twelve
months of twenty twenty four, which will

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represent the first decade of the O'Kelly
effect at ocelly dot com, which includes

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the age of Transitions which was formerly
known as trans resistor radio and Aaron Franz,

1437
01:54:18.319 --> 01:54:24.079
who has been the longest standing,
most consistent and a happy partner along

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01:54:24.199 --> 01:54:30.079
this journey for the Ocelli dot com
Radio network. Aaron, I'm pretty excited

1439
01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:34.000
to see what happens when we put
out the experimental, interesting shows that you've

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01:54:34.079 --> 01:54:39.279
done over the years, along with
the archives, and maybe introduce you to

1441
01:54:39.359 --> 01:54:43.520
some new listeners along the way.
What do you think about that? Yeah,

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01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:45.920
I we'll see. I always like
to have you people listen. Yeah,

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01:54:46.520 --> 01:54:51.119
absolutely true. So stay tuned ocelly
dot com because the Age of Transitions

1444
01:54:51.399 --> 01:54:56.119
is up next and I do appreciate
it if you go to ocelli dot com

1445
01:54:56.199 --> 01:54:59.840
and make a donation or sign up
as a member on the website, lots

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of benefits if you do so.
Anyway, you can also get a spot

1447
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on the supporter wall if you do, those options are available. Or sign

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up a Patreon for ten dollars a
month and I'll do the same thing.

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Those emails are going out within the
week, so you might want to get

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on the list anyway. No matter
who you are, where you are,

1451
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when you are, I want you
to remember that I am merely o'celly.

1452
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:25.720
All of you are indeed the effect. Thank you Harlan, thank you Vance,

1453
01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:30.039
thank you other caller. We're dropped
off and thank you Jimmy James as

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01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:35.600
well as Aaron Franz. Theo'ceelly dot
com radio network is still live in loud

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twenty four to seven. Stick around

