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You're not going to want 10 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:04.000 to miss that one, and if you're already a channel member, it should 11 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.319 pop up in your feed, but if it doesn't, check the community tab 12 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:12.280 page on the channel. So this evening, we have an amazing show for 13 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:18.200 you guys with author, filmmaker and writer, producer and star of our hit 14 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:23.680 documentary jfk X Solving the Crime of the Century on Amazon Prime now. The 15 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.159 links are in the description. Jay Widner, welcome back to the show. 16 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:33.040 How's it going. It's doing great and I'm excited to jump into this topic 17 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.920 with you, because man, have we got a lot of good documentaries that's 18 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:40.799 come out here recently. Netflix is really just blowing the lid off of a 19 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:46.120 lot of things. And what we're really going to be discussing here this evening 20 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:53.879 is this new documentary called American Conspiracy The Octopus Murders. And when I first 21 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.959 saw this pop up on Netflix, I ask a few of my friends. 22 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.920 I was like, Hey, what do you guys know about this? And 23 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.599 one of them said, Oh, it's got something to do with UFOs and 24 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:06.879 I was like, no, it doesn't. It doesn't have anything to do 25 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.319 with UFOs and I was like yeah. Then I watched it and they didn't 26 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:15.120 really talk anything about UFOs any And then I contacted you and I'm like, 27 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.879 hey, we got a what do you know about this? And then you 28 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:23.560 gave me a whole story and how you were pretty much involved with this whole 29 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:29.639 case when it happened. So, first off, what did you think about 30 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.080 the documentary? Oh? I thought it was really good, you know, 31 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.879 they it wasn't as comprehensive as I wished it would be. But I don't 32 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.400 know alwas fault that is. I know Netflix likes to keep things tight. 33 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:46.000 So they were probably under some kind of restrictions to keep things in some kind 34 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:50.599 of order, and they didn't retract themselves like they did with the Son of 35 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:54.879 Sam documentary, where we spent the first three episodes getting all the copious, 36 00:02:54.879 --> 00:03:00.599 delicious facts and then on the fourth episode therese at none of that's true and 37 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:05.560 throw it all out. You know that kind of Netflix BS really pisses me 38 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.639 off, and they didn't do it. So I was really happy that they 39 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.080 didn't like suddenly say at the very end, oh well, you know, 40 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:15.680 Danny Castlero probably killed himself and then the whole rest is just BS. And 41 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.159 they didn't. So it was a good documentary. And the guy, you 42 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:22.800 know, the guy, the lead investigator, I mean, you know, 43 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:30.599 spent ten years looking into that. And so the way I got involved, 44 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:37.840 and actually I got involved in all of this because of Danny Castellio, who 45 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.520 was murdered in nineteen ninety one, I believe May of nineteen ninety one. 46 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:47.000 And what happened with me was I was living out on Bainbridge Island in the 47 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:53.080 Puget Sound, and one night I woke up with a nightmare. And it 48 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.879 usually had nightmares, but this was a whopper. And in this dream, 49 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.719 I was in a kind of a hotel room and there was this guy with 50 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:05.439 has kind of long blondish hair, and he was completely naked and his whole 51 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:10.159 arm, both arms, were just bleeding down onto the ground and the ground 52 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:14.000 was filling up with blood. And then he looked up at me with anguish 53 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:15.600 in his eyes. He said, man, you have to help me. 54 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.839 And I woke up and I was completely flipped out. And then I got 55 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:26.160 on the ferry to go do a job the next day. And I always 56 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:30.120 bought the Seattle Times when I would take the ferry ride, the forty minute 57 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.680 ferry ride, and in those days, I wouldn't do it now. And 58 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:36.759 there on page four was the guy I saw in my dream, and it 59 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:44.079 was an article about how this investigative journalist named Danny Castilero had committed suicide in 60 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:49.000 a West Virginia motel room. And it flipped me out. I completely flipped 61 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:58.639 out. And literally within months, I'd started my radio show on CASEMUFM. 62 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.279 Mind Over Mat was the name of the show, which I started covering all 63 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:08.279 of this stuff and got deeply involved in a bunch of different things. And 64 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:13.879 I was at the peripheral of the octopus Danny Cassillo murder. I did talk 65 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:18.560 to the guy who was featured heavily in that documentary, Michael Riconoscudo, by 66 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:25.160 phone from the Pierce County jail where he was serving time for meth I think 67 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:30.240 making meth, I believe, because he was too smart to be doing something 68 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:34.920 stupid like that. He was clearly very intelligent guy. I you know, 69 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:41.800 I knew how to program assembly and basic and I talked to him, and 70 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:46.279 he definitely knew how to program really well. He knew all the right terms, 71 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:53.199 not only a really good programmer would know. And I was left with 72 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:59.120 this idea that what he said he did he did that he had the talent 73 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.759 to actually do he said he did. And what did he say he did? 74 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:09.680 What he said he did was that he took the software called Promise and 75 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:15.240 rode a back door into it for the CIA. And that is why I 76 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.560 called him, and I, you know, and so I questioned him to 77 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:24.199 find out if he was a BS artist. And like all people that work 78 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.240 in intelligence, you know, a lot of stuff he says is just thrown 79 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.199 in there to confuse you. So you have to be really careful it's a 80 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.879 very difficult path to navigate through the wilderness when you're dealing with these guys. 81 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:40.439 But you know, I didn't know enough about programming to know that he was 82 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:46.040 a very very good programmer, and so I came away believing that that part 83 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:51.680 of what he said was true, and he served I believe, like twenty 84 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:56.439 years. I think he just got out recently they show him getting out into 85 00:06:56.519 --> 00:07:00.959 documentary and Michael, if you're out there, I'm glad you're free. But 86 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.920 what's really interesting about this whole octopus thing is that actually links to JFKX, 87 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:11.360 believe it or not. And that's why I'm so intrigued by it. So 88 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:19.160 as we've been talking in several episodes about these intel wars that actually started with 89 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:25.079 the election of John F. Kennedy, I'm just going to really repeat this 90 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.319 real fast because i want to get to the real meat of this. But 91 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:34.279 basically, the CIA took over the intelligence of the United States in nineteen forty 92 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:39.560 seven, usurping the Office of Naval Intelligence, who had been which had been 93 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:43.759 the number one intelligence agency, and they didn't take it very well. That's 94 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.879 why the CIA's first director was an admiral. They're trying to assuage the Navy 95 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:57.199 from being angry. And so thirteen years later, after the Eisenhower administration was 96 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.319 ending the O and I really wanted to find out what was going on in 97 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:07.800 the CIA, and the CIA was requesting all sorts of very secretive documents from 98 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:09.279 him. They didn't want to give up, and they didn't. They were 99 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:15.279 in a quandary, and so they put two candidates up for election in nineteen 100 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.759 sixty. Richard Nixon was Office of Naval Intelligence and John F. Kennedy was 101 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.399 Office in Naval Intelligence. They did this to ensure that they wouldn't lose, 102 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:31.839 and that's why Nixon didn't complain. When Kennedy obviously stole the Chicago election from 103 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.679 Nixon, everyone wondered why Nixon is just going, okay, well see you 104 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.720 next time. Because that was the operation was to get somebody in there. 105 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:41.960 It wasn't to win the election. It was to get somebody from the Office 106 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.840 of Naval Intelligence into the presidency to find out what the hell was going on. 107 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.120 So Kennedy gets in there. Of course we know what happened. He 108 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.679 and Bobby uncover all their stuff and then his life is threatened, and then 109 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.360 the Office of Naval Intelligence, you know, goes in and rescues their agent, 110 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.480 as they should do with his life and his family's life was under dress. 111 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:11.799 And so we start beginning this weird succession of presidents that are either Office 112 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.559 in Nable Intelligence or their CIA. So Johnson was clearly in with the CIA 113 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.720 and the military industrial complex. And then they elected Nixon. Nixon was again 114 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.240 Office of Naval Intelligence. And you'll notice that the Office of Naval Intelligence. 115 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:30.799 Presidents are going to show you never last very long in office. He latched 116 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.159 three years. Nixon got re elected, the only one that got re elected, 117 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.519 and he only lasted five years because they threw him out on Watergate, 118 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:43.120 which is a complete CIA operation. So Nixon and the other thing that unites 119 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.320 them is they don't start wars. They're the only people in I'm going to 120 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.080 list out here that don't start any wars. So Kennedy didn't start a war. 121 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.279 Nixon got us out of Vietnam. He didn't start a war. Then 122 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.919 the next president was Ford, and he was CIA, he was in the 123 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.799 Warrant Commission. Then the next one was Jimmy Carter, who is definitely ONI 124 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:09.120 officially obviously able intelligence. He of course put Stancefield Turner in who is an 125 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:15.759 eight Navy pissing the CIA off. And here where Cassolero and the Octopus comes 126 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:24.159 in. So Stansfield Turner does an complete evaluation of the CIA, and he 127 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:30.960 finds all sorts of bad, bad people in there, and he makes a 128 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.320 list. And by the way, those guys in the Octopus film, they 129 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.759 show a list of all the people they think are in the Octopus on the 130 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.440 site. It's every one of those people. Every one of those people that's 131 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:46.919 on that list in that documentary is the people that I'm about to talk about. 132 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.399 So Stansfield Turner, on Halloween Night nineteen seventy eight, he did what 133 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:56.200 in the intelligence community is called the Halloween Night massacre. He fired we don't 134 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.399 know the exact number, somewhere between two to three hundred cias and sent them 135 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:07.159 into complete and utter oblivion. We thought, we thought, But what happened 136 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:18.440 is is that a certain ex president who lived in Texas, who had been 137 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:26.360 the head of the CIA, created a clandestine intelligence agency, one that was 138 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.399 not beholden to anyone, that was completely off the books, using these fired 139 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:37.320 two to three hundred agents. We know about this because it culminated in the 140 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:45.759 Iran Contra scandal in nineteen eighty six, eight years after the firing, in 141 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:50.840 which we discovered that this clant we discovered the Clandestine Intelligence Agency, and we 142 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:56.120 discovered that they're running drugs and guns mostly out of Mina, Arkansas. Bill 143 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:03.600 Clinton was governor at the time, and uh uh and that this u uh, 144 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:11.440 this clandestine organization. When Reagan got elected and Bush was his vice president, 145 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:20.159 they really hit the pedal to the medal and they got all the money 146 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:28.120 and funding and the looking away that they wanted and they immediately cocaine began pouring 147 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.039 into the United States. I was live then, remember very well what happened. 148 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:39.080 Uh, crime started skyrocketing, people started going missing, all sorts of 149 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.120 really weird stuff started going on. And you know, as much as people 150 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.799 want to praise Reagan, you know, he let it go on his watch, 151 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.799 and it was a lot of bad stuff. And so just to clarify 152 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.919 here, so there was this group of individuals, really bad people within the 153 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:03.240 CIA. They were then fired and then they organize this kind of black budget 154 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:09.799 arm of the CIA and set up for guns and drugs smuggling. Yeah, 155 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.720 and that's a really interesting part of this documentary. Too, because what they 156 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.559 did is they pretty much just went out and set up on Indian Native American 157 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:24.639 lands. Yeah, that was kind of the brilliant part about this whole operation 158 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.159 is that they could operate within the United States but not be inside the United 159 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:35.120 States if they operated on Indian reservations Native American reservations because they're technically not part 160 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:39.480 of the United States. That's why they can have gambling and all the other 161 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.919 things that they have because federal law doesn't have anything to do with them. 162 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:48.600 They control and govern their own land. And so the CIA sent in this 163 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.399 guy name I can't remember his name right now, I believe they mentioned him 164 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.120 in the documentary, and he he just has gobs of money and he just 165 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:01.120 comes in and, you know, gives it to all the Caabazon Native Americans 166 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:07.120 and they start a casino and all sorts of all sorts of nasty stuff that's 167 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:13.840 going on on this Indian reservation and there's nothing that anyone can do about it 168 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:20.559 because it's not the United States domain. And that was the brilliant part. 169 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.000 And who knows how many other Native American reservations they took over. Because I'm 170 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.360 in a rock bottom poor right, they put them in the worst places. 171 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.440 The worst land possible is what the reservations are, and so they're easy pickings. 172 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.759 You come in with a bunch of money and you can take over really 173 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:43.799 fast. And that's what these guys did. And so around nineteen eighty seven, 174 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:50.159 Danny Casilero, who's a journalist, he reads an article and he was 175 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:56.679 working for a computer magazine actually, and he reads an article about this promised 176 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:01.440 software right, and he decides to start looking int it, and he probably 177 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:09.559 wishes that he hadn't, and he got involved in the investigation of it. 178 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:15.919 And then he met Michael Ricona, Shudo and uh and as he spread out 179 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:22.559 his investigation looking into these exact people, he began to call the whole thing 180 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.120 the octopus because it was in everything. It was in every everywhere he looked. 181 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:33.559 He found the tentacles of this group, this clandestine x CIA off the 182 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:43.120 books organization that may still be with us, by the way, And and 183 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:50.399 so they've created. What they did was they created human traffic. They didn't 184 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:56.559 created, they increased and organized human trafficking, running of drugs back and forth, 185 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:02.799 guns down to Central America to go to El Salvador and Nicaragua and a 186 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:07.360 lot of other places and arming all of those people. MS thirteen got armed 187 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:15.879 by this, all of them did. And they basically they felt that America, 188 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:21.840 all of America, South and North America, was theirs and that it 189 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:26.000 was theirs to run, and so they became this. There used to be 190 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:32.519 a bumper sticker back in the in the nineteen nineties on cars and it said 191 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.360 there that dare up. You know, Dare is dare to keep kids off 192 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.600 drugs, right, and said dare just like that, they said dare to 193 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:44.639 keep the CIA from selling drugs, right, And it was really true because 194 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:48.120 that's what the uh, that's what they were doing. It wasn't technically the 195 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:52.480 CIA. So you can see how they got to do all the stuff that 196 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:57.799 they wanted to do without having to have any responsibility for it by having this 197 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:07.359 plant DestinE an organization that Danny called the octopus. And and who knows how 198 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:17.640 many mysterious deaths and murders and everything happened in the nineties and the eighties that 199 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.200 were a results of this group and what they were doing, and nobody talks 200 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:26.119 about it. I mean this, I guarantee you we're the only show anywhere 201 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.279 that's talking about this information because nobody knows about it. This is like information 202 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:34.559 you only get from somebody from who's deep, deep into the intelligence world. 203 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:41.000 There is where I got learned all this several What I used to do was 204 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.359 I would occasionally I would meet someone from the CIA and they would, you 205 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.880 know, I'd say, can I talk to you and say, I'm not 206 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:51.680 telling you anything. I said, I'm not going to ask you to tell 207 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:53.200 me anything. I don't want you to say one word to me. And 208 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.039 they say good, because they don't know if I'm CIA or not. I'm 209 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:00.480 sure the CIA is always count you know, contacting their own agents to find 210 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.359 out what they're going to say, right and what they're going to cop out 211 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.319 to probably sending in beautiful women to do it. Probably anyway, it's a 212 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:17.279 good mo They do that all the time, Operation Midnight Climax, Sure Ceei 213 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:22.119 running these brothels to get all this information out of politicians and people. Yeah, 214 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.319 incredible, exactly, and and and and who knows how deep and far 215 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.559 it goes? You know. That's the other thing is we just don't know. 216 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:36.640 We don't know how how what they're doing. Where where did this graduate 217 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:40.400 to? You know, we don't know. And well, if you if 218 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.640 you kind of follow, because they kind of just brush over in the very 219 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:48.119 first episode with this promised software and this gentleman there. They had a contract 220 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:55.079 with the Department of Justice to create this UH software to tract different cases, 221 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.680 different core cases, and different criminal cases, to find the connecting issue between 222 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.839 all all the cases. And then the government, the Department of Justice ended 223 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:08.759 up bankrupting his entire company and stole the software. And then that's when micro 224 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:14.640 Verconda Shooto comes in. Micro Kanda Shooto put the back door into the software, 225 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.319 and then the government sold that software to all the other different countries intelligence 226 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:22.119 communities, so they had that spy They were able to spy on what any 227 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.119 other country in the world was doing. And I think that that's the root 228 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:32.359 of this, and I think that how it evolved. We've seen the evolving 229 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.200 nature of it. We got it in our pocket, We got it in 230 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.440 our hand. Now they no longer have to do that. Now it's just 231 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:42.480 everyone's already got it. They already have the back door in the surveillance technology 232 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:48.720 in everyone's pocket. Sure, And with that computer bank in Utah, and 233 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:53.480 you combine that with AI, they can watch everybody and cross index and everything 234 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.839 in real time. I mean, so, yeah, you're right. They 235 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:02.720 don't even need to promise for anymore. It's useless because they can do it 236 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:07.079 right now in real time with everybody, and so they can cross connect where 237 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.400 I am and where somebody else is and did we meet right? It's like, 238 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.799 how are you going to get away from it? They out there picking 239 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.400 your phone all the time, so they know everywhere you are. There was 240 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:27.079 a recent murder here in our area and I was following it and the cops 241 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:33.880 had the guy running around his yard, you know, and asking why did 242 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.880 you run around your yard for twenty minutes? You know, clearly he was 243 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:45.680 chasing something, and you know, his wife disappeared the next day, and 244 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:47.680 you know he said, oh, I was chasing chipmunks. You know. 245 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.920 I was okay, yeah, right, So yeah that when I saw that, 246 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:53.039 Oh my god. You know, I'm gonna leave my phone at home, 247 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:56.119 you know, So I do. I tend to just leave my phone 248 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.839 at home if I can, because I now know they can track everybody and 249 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.440 everything. But it's just interesting to see the origin of that. And I 250 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:10.279 really think that that's what this documentary is really about. And they try kind 251 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:12.039 of try and just you know, brush it off. But that's a huge 252 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:18.079 deal that the United States did in the late eighties and into the early nineties. 253 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.559 I mean that means that they had a back door into whatever other countries 254 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.920 intelligence communities was using the software for. And it's like wow, I mean, 255 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:37.160 that's a huge it's like the infancy of the the surveillance state. Yeah, 256 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.400 it really was, and you know, and it was an amazing software, 257 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:45.880 it really was. Bill Hamilton did a really good job developing it. 258 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:51.279 And you know, suddenly, you know, you could have a you could 259 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:56.039 have a bank robbery in New York and then three days later, you know, 260 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.680 you have a very similar bank robbery in say Reno, Nevada. And 261 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.559 in the old days, you would never even know the two happened. Or 262 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.720 you know, one might happen if you're in New York, but you wouldn't 263 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.359 know about the Nevada one, or if you're in Nevada, you'd know about 264 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.960 that one, about the New York one. And so the promised software immediately 265 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:15.960 would you know, like that come up on the screen, But oh my 266 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:19.880 god, there was a robbery with the same exact MLL three days later, 267 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.720 right, And so now you have the software that's tracking these incidents so that 268 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:32.039 you can manage your criminal management better. And it was brilliant and it probably 269 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:36.279 saved a lot of money. But yeah, the United States wrote Michael Rocono 270 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:38.440 Schudo wrote a back door into it, and they sold it to everybody. 271 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:45.079 Even Israel got it. So who is the power that did that? Well, 272 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.559 it was a Department of Justice, but you know, you got to 273 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.480 wonder who in the Department of Justice ordered that. I mean, that's like 274 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:57.920 really a very big criminal act. And not to mention that they stole the 275 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.480 software from Hamilton and never paid them to dine. I mean, you know, 276 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:08.440 anyway, the octopus may still be at large here. I don't know. 277 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:19.039 I think that it was incorporated finally into corporate organized crime, is what 278 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:23.839 I'm thinking. That they by the time that Castelera was murdered, they were 279 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:29.359 fully active. But I believe by the early two thousands they had done what 280 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.960 everybody else did and just created shell corporations and had everything funded in through that 281 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.480 way. And they could you know, because they just took everything corporate, 282 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:44.519 so you know, they no way they could never get caught, nothing could 283 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:48.279 ever track back to them. That's right, and it's just skeletons back there 284 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:55.279 anyway. So you know that the CIA has software and has had software since 285 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:03.400 the early nineteen nineties that tracks every single flight above fifty feet in the United 286 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.160 States. They know where every flight is, where it's going to eat up 287 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.599 to fifty feet above the ground. So they know where every single plane that 288 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.599 has drugs is landing. They know where every single plane that has guns is 289 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:19.000 landing. They know every all of it. They've filed it for years. 290 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.680 So you know, you've got to take that into account. You know what's 291 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:27.920 going really going on here? And well, I think they did a sort 292 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:32.440 of like a can't beat them, join them type of thing, because it 293 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:37.240 really starts in the drugs really start in Florida with the cocaine, and they 294 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:44.400 found out the more that they would take down these drug cartel people, another 295 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.000 one would just pop up so they couldn't stop it. And they're like, 296 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:48.680 okay, well, how do what do we do? Well, we'll just 297 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:53.240 we'll be the ones. We'll just hold it in. Yeah, we fold 298 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.880 it into our company and take all the profits. You know, that's why 299 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.079 the drugs get in. I mean, that's because is all part of the 300 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.880 it's all part of things. That's why they're not salting the vatanyl. That's 301 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:10.839 probably you know, who knows how much influence the octopus had on, say, 302 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.599 the drug cartels, right, because the octopus is moving literally tons of 303 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:19.839 cocaine in and out of Columbia right, moving it into Florida and Arkansas, 304 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:25.319 right, So they you know, they had to have known all the cartel 305 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:30.440 leaders, I mean how much influence. And I mean didn't thought cartels really 306 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.640 not get strong until after Octopus was created in nineteen eighty. I mean, 307 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:38.160 it's what it looks like. I don't remember any cartels before nineteen eighty. 308 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.519 All of a sudden in nineteen eighties, there's cartels everywhere, and they're armed 309 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.960 to the teeth. Who's selling them the guns? You know? Well, 310 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:53.039 you know it's the octopus. The octopus is The cartels are bureaucratic, corporate 311 00:25:53.119 --> 00:26:00.559 offshoots of the original clandestine operation. And that's why they're not never stopped because 312 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.759 you could easily stop these cartels. I mean, we know right where they 313 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.559 are. You go in there and drop a bomb on them, or do 314 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:14.279 some syops and make everybody suddenly have a migraine inside their houses and stuff. 315 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:15.759 We have all sorts of stuff they could do, but we don't do it. 316 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.119 And you know, you have to ask yourself why. And I'm sure 317 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:26.720 Danny Castilero was wondering why the cocaine was flooding in, and he knew exactly 318 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:32.240 where it was flooding in from, and he knew that this octopus was behind 319 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:37.160 it all, and you know, and then you have to ask yourself, 320 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:51.119 you know. So when he died, the police arrive and they take his 321 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:56.640 body, and the maid comes in. There's no crime scene at all. 322 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.880 The may comes in and cleans the entire motel room. After they take the 323 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.680 body out, they don't come into any forensics. The may cleans up the 324 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.759 house. You don't tell me not to touch anything. They don't put the 325 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:14.559 yellow tape over the door or anything. And then they cremate his body, 326 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:21.559 you know, and the family didn't give permission for it. His brother plays 327 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.960 an integral part in this documentary, and his brothers was like, oh, 328 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:30.680 dude, and of course it's super suspicious. And we really don't know who 329 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:36.079 Danny was going to meet. And another thing, if you are an investigative 330 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.799 journalist and you're going to meet someone in the middle of the night and two 331 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:47.559 things. Bring a friend, bring a gun. You're going to be and 332 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.640 you don't know who you're meeting and you don't know what's going to happen to 333 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.519 you. Well, I think you did ask one of his friends or maybe 334 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:59.279 able to his brother to come with him to meet this person in Mertinsburg, 335 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:03.599 West Virginia, and they said no, or that they couldn't or whatever. 336 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.079 So I think he knew. It's just said. I don't think anyone wanted 337 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.359 to go with him. Yeah, well that it must have been a horrendous 338 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.920 thing. So, you know, in a lot of ways, to send 339 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:22.359 a chill through the entire journalism community at the time, and we were all 340 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.559 terrified. I had a radio show and I was covering all sorts of super 341 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.640 controversial stuff that no one was covering, and we were all, you know, 342 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:34.640 it was a chill. It was a serious chill through the whole community. 343 00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.160 And I'm not sure we ever recover, to be honest with you, 344 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.240 the sense of freedom that we had before nineteen ninety one. It never really 345 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.079 came back, except maybe in the early years of YouTube where they were free 346 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.759 wheeling and letting us all talk and everything. But it kind of kind of 347 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.960 scared everybody so bad that everyone said, you know what, I'm just going 348 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.799 to cover you know, sports and entertainment or something, because you know, 349 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.119 this is getting too dangerous. And I think we all knew that it was 350 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:11.720 foul play, even even the normies had to have suspected that this could not 351 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.880 possibly have actually happened. And I know there is oh well, he was 352 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.039 two hundred thousand dollars in debt and all this. I know, guys like 353 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.039 Danny Castelaria, they don't they don't give a rats ask about how much in 354 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.599 debt they are. They're living, they're living their life and they don't care, 355 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.880 and they don't I know, guys will just pay the credit card with 356 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.440 credit cards with credit cards, and they're all crazy and they're all doing what 357 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:41.160 they want to do, and they're highly intelligent. And Danny Castlero fits right 358 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.160 into that bracket. So I don't think he killed himself at all. Don't 359 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:51.960 even have a smidgeon of a chance it now, whenever I guess it kind 360 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.680 of reminds me of Pat Price as well. They did almost the exact same 361 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.519 thing with Pat Price whenever he was found dead in in California. He was 362 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.839 a remote viewer for SRI International in eighty five, I believe is when he 363 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:12.759 was found dead in California and they cremated his body without telling the family about 364 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:18.319 it. He got a big life insurance policy before he died. The night 365 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.599 before he died, he called all of his family members and told them cryptically 366 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.319 that goodbye, you know, and a man with a briefcase came in and 367 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.480 took his body away in a suit and all this stuff. So it's a 368 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:37.359 really strange coincidence. Now, whenever you talked to Michael Racana Shudeo, what 369 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:44.880 did he did he give you any more information about Danny? Did anything like 370 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.279 that or in? Yeah, he was. He was one of those really 371 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:55.680 kind of super fast talkers trying to crab as much. I think because he 372 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.519 was on a prison phone. I think it was a limited call. I 373 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:03.200 can't exactly remember it was thirty three years ago, but I think it was 374 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.279 like we had a half hour something like that, and that was all they're 375 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.240 going to allow him to have, and so he was just like just tearing 376 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.759 through it. And I didn't have a tape recourse, so I was writing 377 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:21.079 everything down as fast as I could, and he knew I had a radio 378 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.319 show in Seattle, and so I think he was really trying, you know, 379 00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:32.640 to he wanted to me to help him, basically is what he wanted. 380 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.880 And so I was, you know, firing off as many questions as 381 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.799 possible. At first, I tested him to see if he really was a 382 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.799 good programmer, and he was. I mean, he really knew how to 383 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.960 do assembly. Assembly is the hardest. It's machine language, so it's seriously 384 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.960 difficult, as anybody out there knows. They don't even think they do assembly 385 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:59.839 anymore. But then after a while he started saying stuff about well, I 386 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:06.039 was over at right Pat, I think, he said, and they were 387 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:10.000 asking me to WRITELL this software for their UFOs, and I think, you 388 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.799 know, I said, wait, wait, wait what and then he he 389 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.880 said, yeah, yeah, they're building UFOs flying saucers over at right Pat 390 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.319 in Area fifty one. And I go in there and I do operations for 391 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.079 him, and I said, I've stopped him. I said, well, 392 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:31.039 you know you're saying UFOs are you Are you saying like alien UFOs or these 393 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.799 are aliens? And he goes, well, now, there probably are aliens, 394 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.240 but these are I don't think these are aliens. This is our stuff 395 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:43.920 and so I went on because I'd already been told a couple of years earlier, 396 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:51.440 in eighty nine by a high up at NASA that they had craft and 397 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.839 that they were all man made and man built, and there were UFOs, 398 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:58.880 and most of the UFOs that people see are their craft, and they didn't 399 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.839 say they're the government has it. We now know it was a Navy program 400 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.599 about NASA was also run by the Navy. The Navy get it the Navy, 401 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:19.039 and then so then you know and so and so I really I would 402 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:25.960 say that the reason there has not been another Office of Naval Intelligence president until 403 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.960 Trump, so Olive, Reagan, Olive Bush to know Clinton, all of 404 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.359 Clinton. So it's eight eight sixteen years, and then Bush on two and 405 00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.599 that's eight year, so that's twenty four years. Then Obama is eight year, 406 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:49.799 So thirty two years between Jimmy Carter and Donald Trump. Now, why 407 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:54.039 do I think Donald Trump is an Office of Naval Intelligence candidate or a person? 408 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.880 Well, first off, the CIA absolutely hates and we know that, 409 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.480 and we know that Obama ordered the CIA to disrupt his life in twenty fifteen 410 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.880 when he said he was going to run. But the real reason is because 411 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:15.079 it's well known fact that the guy who asked Trump to run in twenty fifteen 412 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:22.960 is former, maybe not former Office of Naval Intelligence officer Steve Bannon and everybody 413 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:29.400 around Steve Bannon, Jack Prosobic and all those other Office of Naval Intelligence right 414 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.559 since they're operating an insurrection, so not about it. The Office of Naval 415 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:45.119 Intelligence is right now involved in an insurrection against the politicians backed by the CIA. 416 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.559 That's what's going on in front of us. It seems like a war 417 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:53.679 between two factions of people, and they're kind of fighting for control based off 418 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:59.440 of what you're saying there. Now. They can never let Trump in because 419 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.880 Trump will Uh. This time, there's no way Trump will. Uh. 420 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:08.480 Every rock will be overturned, every every file candidate will be opened. Everything 421 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.280 will happen. Uh, There's no doubt about it. In fact, I 422 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:21.320 would say from reading between the lines that Steve Bannon has created an army of 423 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.440 people that are ready to go in there and do all of this. He's 424 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.000 intimating that if you follow it. I don't really follow him that much, 425 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.199 but people send me little snippets of what he says, and he's the only 426 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.159 one being open about the Baltimore Bridge bombing too. He's the only one that 427 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.320 had Laura Logan on it said that it was definitely, you know, uh, 428 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.519 a cyber attack. So well, I mean, that's the reason why 429 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.840 he's not going to win the presidential election. There's no way it's not going 430 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.440 to happen. It's never going to happen. So anybody of the things said 431 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:59.519 that it is is not so guaranteed it ain't gonna happen. Now. Whenever 432 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:07.119 it came to because how you got to watch the entire documentary was when this 433 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.800 lady came on and was talking about the zu Bruder film, which I found 434 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.400 this very suspicious. It was this lady right here, and it kind of 435 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:21.880 came up out of nowhere. You know, this whole documentary is revolving around 436 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.360 you know, Danny Castillero, Micro Racona, Schudo, the Christian, Kristin 437 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.039 Hanson, the creator and the maker of the documentary, and they're going into 438 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.679 all these murders, and then all of a sudden, randomly, we kind 439 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.679 of seems like it's just inserted into the entire documentary. We get this lady 440 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:47.360 that's talking about the zu Bruder film and she says that she saw a version 441 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:54.079 of the Zubruder film that showed the driver of the limousine turning around and shooting 442 00:36:54.599 --> 00:37:00.400 JFK in the side of the hat, and that this was the the real 443 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:07.840 version of the Zubruder film and the other version that everyone else got is a 444 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:13.599 fake, altered version. Yeah, that was kind of a mind blower because 445 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.679 it was clearly out of the blue, did not belong with the movie at 446 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.400 all, and it's like a five minute diversion, which seems really odd. 447 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:30.119 And furthermore, they kind of so the pedigree of this whole thing is Around 448 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:35.880 that same time, around nineteen ninety one, researcher and writer Bill Cooper, 449 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.960 whom I knew, was running around on the circuit showing a version of the 450 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.840 Zubruner film that was terrible. It was a copy of a copy of a 451 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.519 copy. I saw it. I went to the lecture, I saw it. 452 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.320 I talked to him afterwards. And we know the driver because we now 453 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:57.880 in JFK, actually have the enhanced version, the best version ever, four 454 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.199 K version of the Zubruterer film, which is the main reason you guys got 455 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.280 to see it, because nobody hows that one. And we can clearly see 456 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.559 that the driver has both of his hands on the wheel, but he does 457 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:14.719 turn around and look at JFK before the thing that happens. And in fact, 458 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:19.760 as soon as JFK does this movement, everybody except for Jackie is pinds 459 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.199 their head turned around and is looking right at JFK. So what I suspect 460 00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:30.039 is that the bad copy was the driver turning around and then a flash of 461 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:37.280 light which is there, which would be about gun angle size. I think 462 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.760 that's what you see, because here's the problem with that whole theory. First 463 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.000 off, everybody would see it, right, I'd be really loud right. 464 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.880 Secondly, the driver is on the left. If we're looking at the car, 465 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.639 the driver's on the left side and Kennedy's on the right side. To 466 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.880 hit Kennedy on the right side of the head, you couldn't do it from 467 00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.480 that angle. You could get him here on the other side, you could 468 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.679 get him, but you couldn't get this side of the head from over there. 469 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.920 It's impossible to think about it. Reach around and try to imagine if 470 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.920 there's somebody two car seats behind you, it's all the way over to the 471 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:14.360 other side. How are you going to get your gun around to get him 472 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:19.039 here, which clearly is what happens, So it's a nice and you would 473 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:25.920 also have to miss uh good that part. Yeah, you would have to 474 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.480 miss what's his name though? And his wife, Yeah, you'd have to. 475 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.719 Yeah. They would have to be perfectly positioned so they're not in the 476 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.159 way, which means they'd probably have to be part of it. So you 477 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:42.360 know, that's it's an outlandy theory. The good copies don't show that. 478 00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:47.960 I take a variance with this idea that there's severals of Bruder films running around. 479 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.559 I've never seen any. I've seen just the one, never seen any 480 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.440 others. There's frame count, you can look at every frame and see where 481 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:01.639 it's at, and you know, and the other thing about the Zabruder film 482 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:09.760 that I really think needs to be debunked is the idea that in nineteen sixty 483 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:17.760 three that they had the motion picture industry had technology that they could do things 484 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.480 that they can do today. They could, they didn't. It was it 485 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.239 was very difficult to make effects in those days. Everything had to be physical. 486 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.440 There was air brushing. But when you consider that the frame of sixteen 487 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.760 millimeters about that big, you know, it's pretty hard to imagine how you 488 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.360 would airbrush that. Now I would say that they go, oh, you 489 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.960 blew the frame up, you airbrushed it, and then you reduced it again. 490 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.800 Okay, I guess that could happen, but that would be the only 491 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.039 way it could go down. In those days, you know, there wasn't 492 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:57.199 there was Hollywood would be using every tool and invention that they could find to 493 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.880 make movies. And so they didn't have it. I mean they didn't I 494 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.760 know the technology, and I know they didn't have it. So did they 495 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:12.559 do something to the film after the splice at frame two o seven? Yeah, 496 00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:19.800 yeah, they put it through an optical printer, thank you, an 497 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.920 optical printer, and they made a traveling mat of the limousine with the people 498 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.599 in it, and they mode it, struck it down in size, and 499 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.559 lowered it right when the shooting happens. And that's all. It's just a 500 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.079 very simple way to hide what's going on without it looking to unless you really 501 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:37.599 know your optics. No one ever saw it. I mean, as far 502 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.440 as I know, four or five people have noticed that the people in the 503 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.639 background are as big as or bigger than the people in the limousine, which 504 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.599 cannot be by the law of physics, but not very many other people noticed 505 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:55.039 that, And so again this is all connected. So weird. The fact 506 00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:00.559 that they stuck that in the film is just so weird because it's just doesn't 507 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.400 fit. And it's almost like they were told to put it in. That's 508 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.599 what I'm wondering. Well, even the lady's reaction to it, it's almost 509 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:13.159 like it came out of left field. She was kind of like, oh 510 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.480 oh, and there's a film. Yeah, So it's like it was really 511 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.239 strange, right, a strange diversion for them to take in the middle of 512 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:28.880 that film, and it doesn't fit with anything, but it is an attempt 513 00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:34.800 to debug KX at the same time, you know, And and I mean, 514 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:39.159 I'm pretty sure that the intelligence agencies run Netflix are released the programming, 515 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:44.559 and so I think they just said, well, oh yeah, just footage 516 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.239 here. Why don't you just keep it in, you know, let's just 517 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.000 keep it in, because I mean, Netflix and Hulu seemed to be then 518 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.079 the main people that are trying to debunk JFKX. I mean, so I 519 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:04.440 don't know, I'd have to look at and who owns Hulu Disney Disney, 520 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.719 Yeah, Disney. So there you go. And we know who Disney is, 521 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.760 and so there you go. Yeah, so you know, Disney was 522 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:23.840 the first first film production to uh uh uh broadcast NASA before NASA was even 523 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.320 created. Berner, von Braun and Disney, Walt Disney got together and made 524 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:36.039 a documentary that was shown on National TV. It was incredible, and it 525 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.400 had all fake footage in it of going up into outer space and and and 526 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:45.360 everything and and and then Berner later is working with Kubrick, you know, 527 00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.199 in the NASA East, which is London, which is where all the highest 528 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:55.679 ranking NASHA NASA people came to visit. And I heard this interesting theory that 529 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:04.400 maybe NASA wasn't busy viiting Kubric on the set of two thousand and one for 530 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.920 Kubric to learn how to make the food fake the moon landing. Maybe NASA 531 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:15.760 was trying to learn from Cubric how to fake the moon landing. Double double 532 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:22.000 got to hit them with a double double. Yeah and yeah. So anyway, 533 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:31.599 the sad tale of the clandestine origins of this super intelligence agency, you 534 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.760 know, goes back to this war between the CIA and the O n I, 535 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:43.159 and that war created a third intelligence agency that we don't even know or 536 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.159 anything about them. Except for what we learned during the Iran contray scandal, 537 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:51.599 which was that they were running drugs and guns for money, and then it 538 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:55.599 went completely obscure again. And you can't tell me that they just went out 539 00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.519 of business because Danny Castelario is using their exactly names and his book on the 540 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:06.559 Octopus, so you had the exact people that were involved. Well, that's 541 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:12.480 another thing that makes you wonder, like and see that it's not a suicide 542 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.280 because his briefcase, his documents, and everything that he was working on was 543 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:22.599 missing from his hotel room. Yep. Yeah, that's not what a writer 544 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.519 does. The writer doesn't get rid of all their stuff that they've been working 545 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.719 on for ten years and then kill themselves. It's just not how it goes. 546 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:35.159 It's pretty outsides. He had what nine slashes on one wrist and seven 547 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:39.239 on the other. You lose your you lose your ability to move your hand 548 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.039 and your arm once you cut that tend in there, and you're al will 549 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:46.760 just flop down at that point. You won't even be able to lift it 550 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:52.800 or anything. So even that should have been, you know, a cause 551 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.559 for concern when they did the autopsy, but they didn't do an autopsy. 552 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:06.039 They just burned the body, cremated the body, so really suspicious and you 553 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:13.880 know right outside of DC where you know, all the operatives are and and 554 00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.920 uh, yeah, sad thing man, really sad thing and Riconda shootout. 555 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:20.440 He's not out of jail. I don't know what he's doing. Maybe you 556 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.039 should try to get an interview with him, that would be cool. Well, 557 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.559 it's interesting to the Towards the end of the documentary, they're like, 558 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.039 you know, the filmmakers are kind of like, yeah, we're going to 559 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.599 wrap this up. We're kind of at a dead end and all this, 560 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:38.639 and then Michael Riccona Shudo calls him and is like, hey, you know, 561 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.760 this is what's going on. I'm getting ready to tell you the actual 562 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.679 truth of what's happening. What do you think that he was going to tell 563 00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.760 them? Do you think David is going to tell them about the the UFO 564 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.360 stuff? And I think he was going to tell him about the fact that 565 00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:02.039 he was working in the secret space program back in late eighties, and they 566 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:06.519 they probably he probably did tell them. They just you know, I'm not 567 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.920 going to touch that with a ten foot pool, and or they were ordered 568 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:15.519 by whoever the guys are at Netflix to stay away from that, and so 569 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.480 they did. And so he was working, you know, on all these 570 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.440 blackout projects. And he was like the perfect guy because he was like a 571 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:34.519 super genius and super eccentric. You know, he liked to he liked his 572 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.559 drugs, and he liked his women, and you know that's the way it 573 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:47.880 was. And typical intelligence guy. You mean clandestin space operations, Yeah, 574 00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:54.320 because I mean so in nineteen ninety one, I mean there was almost nobody 575 00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:04.880 talking about like a secret space program. I'm sorry about that. J Clandestine 576 00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:13.719 space operations, not what he just said, just a secret space programmer. 577 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:19.679 I think you mean clan Dustine space, clandestine space program, what we're calling 578 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.400 SSP now, whatever it was. And again, you know, you go 579 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:29.440 back to this octopus. It starts up in like nineteen eighty. Reagan's elected 580 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:35.760 in nineteen eighty. Reagan is the number one guy behind the clandestine space operation. 581 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.360 He writes about it in his diary. I was told today that we 582 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.280 have a ship that can go into outer space, that can hold two hundred 583 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.360 people. That's what he says in his diary. Right, And then we 584 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.800 know Gary McKinnon hacked the Pentagon and found out that there was all these ships 585 00:48:52.880 --> 00:49:00.440 up there named after admirals, maybe right old admirals, including the the guy 586 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:05.559 who was the first head of the CIA. And then he gets harassed for 587 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.760 the next ten years by the American intelligence agencies trying to get him out of 588 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:14.920 England and into the United States, where he would certain have roasted for the 589 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:22.440 rest of his life in jail. And so we know that, and we 590 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.840 know that they were active, and yes they would be getting you know, 591 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.280 they're the top highest IQ people to work for him. A lot of the 592 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:36.920 uh as David politis the Missing four one one writer. He told me a 593 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.679 lot of the people that are missing that are never found are people who with 594 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.800 super high IQ's. He said, they just walk into the forest one day 595 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.440 and then they're never seen again. And a lot of them are scientists. 596 00:49:50.280 --> 00:50:00.960 One guy was a top physicist at University of Washington in Seattle, and he 597 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.880 he goes to the Olympic Forest, which is this really dense forest, amazing 598 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:10.079 absolutely amazing forest in Washington State. And he gets out of the parking lot 599 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:15.280 and he's wearing you know, an Olympic forest. It's like always forty degrees 600 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.480 in raining he gets out of the car. He's wearing polka dot shirt, 601 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:23.039 a shorts of pink socks, and blue shoes and he says Hi to every 602 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:28.400 person in the parking. Hi, I'm going up that trail today and I'll 603 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.760 be back tonight. And everybody's like, woll this weird guy? What's he 604 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.519 doing? You know? And then he goes up the trail. He's never 605 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.760 seen again. And you know, you got to wonder if that guy wasn't 606 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:44.400 making himself super conspicuous so that his absence would be noticed, right, And 607 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.079 So I think that a lot of this is what's going on. I think 608 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:55.039 that I think that, you know, people like Jack Parsons, who supposedly 609 00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:01.480 blew up in his basement making chemicals, I think he's probably taken into this 610 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:08.840 clandestine program. I think that a lot of that kind of stuff is going 611 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:15.159 on, because they can either fake your death or they can just make you 612 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.840 missing. Either way does the exact same thing. Now, what do you 613 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:27.519 think do you think that Bill Cooper was tossing around and showing people a fake 614 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.280 version of the Zubruta film? Where do you think that he was showing a 615 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:37.559 just a really bad copy of the Zabruta film, because Bill Cooper is responsible 616 00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:42.400 for a lot of nonsense that went arong with from the community that it tracks 617 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:49.760 back to freaking Paul Benowitz getting all this missing disinformation from the NSA and Air 618 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.960 Force Special Investigators. That's where Bill Cooper got the whole idea of contract with 619 00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:59.079 the extraterrestrials between eyes an hour. You got that from Paul Minnowitz, which 620 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:05.119 you got it from ns agents Dodie and and Bill Cooper told me that he 621 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:08.639 said, I was in the Navy and I was on watch uh and I 622 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:15.880 saw two UFOs fly out of the water right and he reported it and and 623 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:22.239 the and the uh O n I took Bill down into a room and he 624 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.719 filled out his entire report and told him what he saw. And then they 625 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.599 pulled out a book, he said, a picture book, and he said 626 00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.159 here, look look at all the UFOs. And Bill's looking at him and 627 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:38.239 he said, yeah, they're aliens and they're invading. And he said that 628 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.840 They sat there and told him the whole story, and then he went out, 629 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.880 and you know, they'd done clearly done a profile on him, a 630 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:51.559 psychological profile. Knew he was a blabbermouth knew that he was just tell everybody, 631 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.719 and so they used him. He saw the UFO, so it was 632 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:58.960 a perfect chance to use him. And you know they were probably Navy and 633 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.960 the UFOs of me and and so you know they took him out. And 634 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:09.360 again, look at what uh he's spreading. He's spreading that the driver shot 635 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:15.320 Kennedy, not that the Office of Naval Intelligence is helping Kennedy escape. No, 636 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:16.920 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 637 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.679 I want that one. No, the driver somehow can whip his arm all 638 00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.639 the way around and shoot Kennedy with nobody seeing it and nobody hearing it and 639 00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.840 not hitting Johnson or Connolly and his wife. So yeah, I think it 640 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.599 was Bill Cooper was the Navy having fun, playing fun and games with him, 641 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.159 and they do that all the time. And uh, you know, 642 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:43.360 it's not an accident that he came out of the Navy and the Navy told 643 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:49.679 him that. By the way, on that same kind of subject, I'm 644 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:53.760 gonna forget the guy's name now, he's a Canadian. I can't remember his 645 00:53:53.880 --> 00:54:00.960 name now. Anyway, he's the very first guy to start pushing the modern 646 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:06.920 version of the flat Earth. He was a stand up comedian after he came 647 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.440 out as a flat earther. He was terrible. But he was a contract 648 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:15.360 worker with NASA, is how this all got started. And he was working 649 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.760 down and believe in Texas and Houston, and his story is is that one 650 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:24.599 day he got called into a meeting with these really top people at NASA and 651 00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:29.159 he was like, wow, these are like the top people here. They 652 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:32.360 want to meet with little old me, and they laid out a map which 653 00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.639 looked just like the UN logo. He said and said, this is the 654 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:43.039 real shape of the Earth. It's flat, and it's a secret. We 655 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.599 don't want anybody to know about it. And what did he do? He 656 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:52.679 quit. Two weeks later, he's telling everybody on Earth everywhere that the Earth 657 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.719 is flat. And he gets that other guy, I forget his name now 658 00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:01.440 too, Eric, Eric, remember his name. He lives over in Thailand. 659 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:07.400 He's now. He told him that he started blabbing it all over and 660 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.079 you can see it all goes back to this one guy from Toronto who was 661 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.880 given all the information by NASA. He says, that's a dessumption operation. 662 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.199 That's what they did to Paul Benowitz as well. They gave him they told 663 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.440 him to keep quiet. About all this information. Don't tell anybody, And 664 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.519 of course, what's the first thing that somebody's going to do. Whenever they 665 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.199 get this explosive, wild information, they go out and tell everybody about it. 666 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.480 And then that gets the mythology a rolling. I mean, whenever you 667 00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.320 track back almost all of the extraterrestrial stuff, you can see that it came 668 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:44.679 from Paul Benowitz. Paul Benowitz and Bill Cooper, That's who it came from. 669 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.679 And they were both influenced by A. Benoits by Air Force intelligence and 670 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:57.119 by Bill Cooper in Naval intelligence. And who's running the clandestine saucer program Probably 671 00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:02.880 the Navy and the Air Force, I would imagine. So that's how it 672 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:10.960 is. And you know, just as an aside, I think I'm gonna 673 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:15.039 tell this story, just because it's never been told. I once had a 674 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:21.320 friend who was super high up in scientology. He was a banker, and 675 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.960 he would he loved my movies and he would give me money, had tons 676 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.559 of money. He would give me money to help me finance my movies. 677 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:35.480 And he was really into conspiracy and everything. And uh, he said, 678 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.800 I was talking to him one time, and we're talking about l Ron Hubbard, 679 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:40.800 who was Office Naval Intelligence, and I was saying, well, scientology 680 00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:45.920 was started by you know, Office and Naval Intelligence officer l Ron Hubbard, 681 00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.800 and he said yeah, yeah, yeah, And he said, well, 682 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:52.679 you know the origins of scientology and the E meter. The E meter is 683 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.719 the thing that reads your mind. You put your hands on these cans. 684 00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.360 And how much money did you make last year? You say thirty thousand. 685 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.599 I goes bing bing bing, you know, okay, forty five thousand, 686 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:07.760 right, And you know, because it knows when you're lying light. Anyway, 687 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:15.400 he told me that after World War Two that the Navy it had such 688 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:23.320 a problem with homosexuality during World War Two on the Navy boats that they signed 689 00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:29.960 l Ron to find a way to cure people of homosexuality. I'm like what 690 00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.000 and and he said, so he invented the E meeter. He probably didn't 691 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.559 invent it, you know, he says he did. And then when we 692 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.679 have recruits come, we say, you know, do you like women, 693 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.079 you know, find out whether they're gay or not. And I said, 694 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:52.239 well, I mean did it work? He said no, so it didn't 695 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.480 work. He said, thenk you still get by and I will, oh, 696 00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:59.440 okay, And he said but then Elron took it, you know, 697 00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:05.360 public with Scientology. Uh and and it's I said, you know, to 698 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:10.199 me, Scientology looks like a giant intelligence gathering operation. And he said, 699 00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:14.079 it is, that's what it is. And this guy was in the Navy, 700 00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:19.360 by the way. And and so you know, just think about a 701 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.639 perfect intelligence gathering operation that is every week. You know, you're paying two 702 00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:28.119 thousand dollars a month to come in every week and take your little courses. 703 00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.280 You see a thing unusual this week? Right, and you know, no 704 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.840 bing bing, Yeah you did. What did you see? Yeah, I'm 705 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:37.880 pretty sure you're telling them about something that you saw. They're all getting written 706 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:44.400 down collated into a computer system. And uh. And that's why you never 707 00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.280 go to Scientology. You stay as far away from them as you can. 708 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:55.119 But that's also so they invented a gator. That's pretty much what you see. 709 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:02.679 You said, Yes, if I have absolutely no problem with gay people, 710 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:08.119 they can they can do whatever they want. There's actually some during the 711 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:13.119 Navy. Yeah, whatever they want to do, they can do. I 712 00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.400 got no problem with some of the gay people that I met at some of 713 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:20.079 the nicest people that you know that I've ever met, some of the most 714 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:24.119 smart, smartest people I've ever know, we're gay, So and those are 715 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:30.079 the things that I value in people, is intelligence and creativity. So yeah, 716 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:32.079 there was nothing to do with that. I just thought it was interesting 717 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:37.000 that the Navy was so interested in and rooting it out at the end of 718 00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:42.559 World War Two that they invented this whole entire psychological program, which interesting that 719 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.159 it didn't work, you know, because I know it didn't work because I 720 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.280 know guys that were in the Navy that were gay, so they obviously it 721 00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.559 didn't work. So I wonder. It makes me wonder if scientology even works 722 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:57.320 or it's just an intelligence gathering of Well, you got a lot of connections 723 00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:02.280 between scientology and through letter organizations. A lot of people that were a part 724 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.760 of the Remote Viewing Stargate project were supposed scientologists. How put Off is a 725 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:15.719 known scientologist. Miss North here says, so a high level scientologist was funding 726 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:21.000 your projects. Jane, When did you did you know from the beginning that 727 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.679 he was a high level scientologist. Yeah, yeah, I knew his high 728 01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:29.960 level scientology. He was really into alchemy. That's how we met, and 729 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.280 so, you know, we had a bunch of talks about alchemy and then 730 01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:37.880 I said, I really need money to go travel to look up all this 731 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:42.559 stuff, and he wrote me a check for twenty five thousand dollars right on 732 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.039 the spot. And I was able to, you know, go travel to 733 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:50.239 France and Peru in Italy. And I'm sure that they were watching me. 734 01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.840 I mean I was followed everywhere I went in France. Okay, I saw 735 01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.679 the same people, Like I was all over France for two and a half 736 01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:00.639 months, and I kept seeing the same people across from me. Then I'd 737 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.719 see him in another city, you know, following me down the street or 738 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.880 in a car driving by. And yeah, you know, the for some 739 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:15.039 reason, alchemy attracts the intelligence world. I'm not sure why. Well that's 740 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:20.400 how scientology works, right, don't They like kind of stalk you a little 741 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.480 bit and figure out everything about you and then try and bring you in for 742 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:27.119 an initiation. Yeah, isn't that the way it works? Yeah? And 743 01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:30.400 you know, and guess what he wanted me to do on my travels. 744 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:34.639 Every two weeks, I had to file a report and mail it to him. 745 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.639 So there you go. I mean, I knew what they were watching 746 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:42.880 me. I didn't care because I didn't have any money and I wanted to 747 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.400 do this research. I had a lot of little bit of Danny Castelero in 748 01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:50.199 me too, where money is the least important thing that I'm worried about, 749 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:53.320 more interested in the work I'm doing. And that's why I know that Danny's 750 01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.800 the real deal. And yeah, so I did have a high level of 751 01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:01.920 scientology looking in to me. I've been told that, you know that I've 752 01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:08.440 had every major agency has gigantic files on me. That's what I've been told 753 01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:14.639 by someone whom I'm close to in the FBI. So when I went to 754 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:22.239 school with told me that I have a gigantic file at the FBI on me, 755 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.800 What can I do? You know, I didn't mean to set out 756 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.679 to go do that, but I'm just interested in the same kind of subjects 757 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:31.719 that would get me to have a file. You know, I want to 758 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:36.840 know what's really going on, and I'm kind of relentless at it, and 759 01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.199 so I'm you know, I'm raising alarms probably all the time right now, 760 01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:49.480 the Biden administrations asking Google to send anyone who's viewed whatever these sites are that 761 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.159 they gave them a list of send their IDs to to the FEDS. Right 762 01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:57.760 now that happened what yesterday. So you know, I don't know how many 763 01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.079 sites I visited that are on that list. I probably almost all of them. 764 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.239 And so you know, I'm moving up to another list now, and 765 01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.960 uh, you know, it'll just keep growing. And at the same time, 766 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:15.760 they watch people like us because we gather information, and that's what they're 767 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:20.360 doing. They're intelligence agents and the gathering information. And so if by watching 768 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:25.480 us they're intelligence gathering, they're just using us as there as their workhorses. 769 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:30.920 Right, well, they're not going to find nothing on any of my computers 770 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:32.199 and my phones. I do it all from the head, baby, and 771 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.800 that's all it goes. I don't have any on my computer. Way, 772 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:43.119 man, I'll put anything on my computer. I keep a notebook. That's 773 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:46.079 exactly right. You don't ever save any of your passwords to any of your 774 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:53.239 devices over never, no way. I'd never if I even get remotely close 775 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:57.719 to a porn site, I start turning off my computer. That's another thing 776 01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.039 too, though, they truck you through those all those kind of sites. 777 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:04.360 They do. Never go to a porn site, never, And if one 778 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.719 accidentally gets on your computer, get it off as fast as you can because 779 01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:11.719 they're timing. They're timing if you can say, well, I saw it, 780 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.559 I got it off in one second, right, But if you let 781 01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.119 it linger, you're going to get a visit. I guarantee it, especially 782 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:20.880 if it's a certain kind of porn, so they can take you down. 783 01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:25.360 But you got to be careful, and I'm not. I do not fish 784 01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:29.039 around on the Internet. I never go to the Dark Web or anything like 785 01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:30.480 that. I know they're watching it, and I know as soon as I 786 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:35.880 do it, they'll be coming for me. So hacking into your stuff like 787 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:44.119 that, And that's relating to this documentary as well. But there's another documentary 788 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.599 that I wanted to bring up with you before we wrap up this evening because 789 01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:53.960 I think that it's also very important to discuss, and that is the program 790 01:04:54.239 --> 01:05:00.480 cons cults and kidnapping. And I believe I've talked about it a few times 791 01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:05.199 on my show before, and this really shocked me. This one really shocked 792 01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:11.719 me being on Netflix and as soon as I saw it, I was like, 793 01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:16.320 Wow, this is exactly what all these secret space programs, all these 794 01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:21.599 super soldiers talk about. It's the verbatim the exact same thing, them being 795 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:27.320 abducted in the middle of the night by men and they're put into an suv. 796 01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:31.480 They're taking them to taken somewhere or their mk altrade and then they're sent 797 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.440 back to their parents. That's exactly what happens in this documentary. This is 798 01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:40.320 the exact same thing. But it's a facility, it's a behavioral health it's 799 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:45.599 a operation. And and so I mean it was you that brought it up, 800 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.440 and it's a brilliant idea, is I mean? Yeah, in the 801 01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:53.559 documentary they go to that one school and I think New York, But how 802 01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:57.559 many other schools are there? How many are there could be hundreds of these 803 01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.199 schools where they're taking kids. And by the way, every person that I 804 01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.000 ever talked to that was in the Secret Space program told me that they were 805 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:11.559 bad kids. They were troubled kids, every one of them. Everyone said 806 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.840 it. So they would be exactly what they would do in this program because 807 01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:17.599 that's who these kids are. There were troubled kids. The parents didn't know 808 01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.960 what to do with them. This company comes to them, so we'll make 809 01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:25.239 your kids better again. Just sign this document and give us a lot of 810 01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.280 money. By the way, we're going to be over about two thirty in 811 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:30.280 the morning, we're gonna be all dressed in black. We're going to take 812 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.559 your kid from him, and you're not going to see him for a year 813 01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:36.239 or two, and we're going to put him in an MK Ultra boot camp 814 01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:43.159 program. But as you pointed out, writer, why couldn't they have cover 815 01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:47.159 programs at some of these schools that we don't know about, where they actually 816 01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:51.440 make them all think they are in a secret space program. They're so special, 817 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:56.880 and we took you into the secret space program and you're going to become 818 01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:00.280 a secret space warrior astronaut. And you know, I mean, what a 819 01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:04.719 great way to straighten out a defective kid, right, to make them think 820 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:09.920 that they're part of a big program. They're going to be an astronaut. 821 01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:14.039 And Okay, well, I'm gonna start getting good grades and I'm gonna start 822 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:17.400 being good in school because I want I want to succeed in this. And 823 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:23.199 then you can we know that they can feed them false memories, so they 824 01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:28.280 can feed them false memories or even false recreations. I mean, we don't 825 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:31.480 know how far these programs have real legal one. They're they're illegal, I 826 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:36.639 believe, and I believe that we need to on a state by state basis, 827 01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:41.599 find out all the programs in our states and root them out, because 828 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.400 this is a really dangerous thing to be doing. This is and it's cultural 829 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:51.000 conditioning as well. You know, like a lot of these kids suffered a 830 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:57.360 lot of trauma within behavioral health programs and that affects them for their entire life. 831 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.360 Yeah, you know, like they were beaten, they were tortured basically. 832 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:09.639 And really a very interesting part about it that immediately got my attention. 833 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:14.639 It was in the very first episode when because We're Me and Jay are currently 834 01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:20.319 working on a new documentary and it has to do with mk Ultra and the 835 01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:27.359 film industry, and they said in the beginning of this documentary that they would 836 01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:31.960 use Stanley Kubrick's the opening of Stanley Kubrick's two thousand and one of Space Odyssey. 837 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.920 They would put that on repeat over and over and over again. That's 838 01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:42.079 a psychic driving technique, that is an mk Ultra technique, and the phrases 839 01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.079 that they would be meant to repeat. And another wild part of this too, 840 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:51.199 Jay, is that they also had the parents just as mk ultrade and 841 01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:57.239 brainwashed, is that they had the kids or more. I mean, those 842 01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:01.039 parents were just like blind to what was going on and following her along with 843 01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:03.960 it. I mean, it was insane. They knew that it was a 844 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.880 lie, but they were still following along with it. It's just like it's 845 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.479 like that program at Stanford where they, you know, took those guys and 846 01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.800 turned into uh into robots kind of. I think that that's what this what 847 01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:24.359 was going on here, they were like it was It was clearly a CIA 848 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:28.439 operation. I'm sorry, the whole thing was, and I mean, I'm 849 01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:32.279 sorry, but it was the way that they were hiding show companies within shell 850 01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:38.199 companies. That's exactly how they do it all the time. So I highly 851 01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:42.760 recommend the program on Netflix. I can't believe that you did it Netflix. 852 01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.159 I really want to thank you for that, because it does give us a 853 01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:54.880 whole different version or idea behind the messing of the minds, causing people to 854 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:59.479 think that they were in some exalted program when they weren't, when they were 855 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:05.359 actually captured by a criminal company that was mind controlling them. That's exactly right, 856 01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:13.439 and it's very easy to mistake one of these behavioral modification programs, and 857 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:21.520 as a special SSP program, I will even cause it this that let's say 858 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:29.039 there's thirty of these schools, right, and I'm schools jails really in America, 859 01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:31.600 said, let's just pick a number out arbitrarily, say thirty. Each 860 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:38.000 one is each one of them is devoted to a different style of MK Ultra 861 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:43.079 program as an experiment. Right, That's what you would do. So some 862 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.159 would think they were in the secret space program, some would think they're taken 863 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:51.079 by aliens, some would think that they were in all sorts of different ways 864 01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:56.119 that you could put this out, and all you would have as a result 865 01:10:56.279 --> 01:11:00.960 is a bunch of traumatized, messed up minds running around telling stories, confusing 866 01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:06.560 everything, confusing everybody, doing exactly what the CIA director William Casey said, 867 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:13.399 By the time we get done here, everybody, everything that everybody knows will 868 01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:17.319 be confusion. That is the purpose of the program. And it kind of 869 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:25.279 goes into what your buzzman off was talking about to the KGB defector in the 870 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:29.239 eighties. I believe you know, I was talking about how the ways to 871 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:33.960 subvert an entire country. You know, you first take over the children, 872 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:40.000 yep, you brainwash the children, and then in a couple of generations, 873 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.479 the work will be done for you. That's right, and it's being done 874 01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:50.920 right now. The children are so far gone that apparently Generation Alpha can't even 875 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:56.359 read. They're having trouble teaching them how to read. The kids that are 876 01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:00.359 like seven or eight years old right now, probably because of the COVID MK 877 01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:06.640 ultra operation, and so you know, we're raising a generation now that may 878 01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:12.800 not be able to function at all in society. There's another documentary that came 879 01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:18.439 out earlier that was called Hell Camp and the Teen Nightmare that was basically the 880 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:29.800 it's kind of the infancy of these teen behavioral modification schools and these boarding schools 881 01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.000 or whatever you want to call them, and it started in the seventies at 882 01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:39.760 this in Utah. But the basis for it was the exact same thing. 883 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.960 The kids are being abducted in the middle of the night at three am, 884 01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:48.640 thrown into an suv. They were taken to Utah to go out in the 885 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:54.880 desert and hike for sixty days. Yep. Yeah, it's it's brutal, 886 01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:00.560 and they is we have to make it illegal. Can't a lot of this 887 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.960 go on. It's really going to mess up society. But I mean, 888 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:15.119 it is brilliant that you extrapolated the secret Space program. Storytellers with this idea 889 01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:19.760 of the program, and I gotta tell you that is that could be a 890 01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:24.520 documentary. Actually, well, I mean it's it's even the same thing. 891 01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:29.920 It's even called the program. And what are these secret space program people call 892 01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:31.920 it as well? They call it the programs program. That's right, and 893 01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:36.760 that's what it is. And how do I and and it seems like the 894 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.079 people that are involved in it, they'll be like, oh, well, 895 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.760 I know you from somewhere. You're very familiar. And it's the rope that's 896 01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:47.199 to rope them into the the entire thing. And they talk about in this 897 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:53.119 documentary that it was very difficult for them to keep track of each other, 898 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:58.800 you know, it was hard to find each other because they basically cut off 899 01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.760 communication between them, so you would have to remember all the people's full names 900 01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:06.560 to be able to look them up later. And that's what all the secret 901 01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.960 Space program people, Oh, I know you from somewhere. It's got to 902 01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.520 be from the programs. Well, you're not talking about the secret space program. 903 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:17.000 You're talking about behavioral modification programs, is what you're talking about. That's 904 01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:25.439 right, disguised as a secret space program, disguised as alien abduction, disguised 905 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:30.399 as all this other stuff. Who knows what they're really doing in these places 906 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:34.039 for sure? The uh, you know, they're all experiments. That's the 907 01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:39.079 one thing we can all agree on. They're all experiments. Every kid was 908 01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:43.479 an experiment. The whole thing was an experiment. Everything was an experiment. 909 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.840 Each kid had different stuff tried on them to see what effect it would have 910 01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:53.439 later. And they're probably following tracking those kids still to this day probably and 911 01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:57.880 then the parents too, so so weird and interesting. It was like very 912 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.439 ritualistic things that they would doing on these parents, Like they were making them 913 01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:05.920 do like weird meditations. They were being like blindfolded, they were all like 914 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.239 holding hands, walking around in a circle and making them cross dress and like 915 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:18.119 all this weird stuff. I don't get that they're making the parents cross dress. 916 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:25.279 I just don't know about that. That's really strange. It is really 917 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.880 weird. And uh. I had Kathie O'Brien on the other day and she 918 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:35.359 was talking about how, you know, there's this extraterrestrial and alien mk ultra 919 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:43.560 program that's being ran on people to make them believe that it's extraterrestrials, and 920 01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:49.680 they're using these extraterrestrials as scapegoats in order to cover up what the government is 921 01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:56.399 doing and humans are doing to other humans. So they'll give them a holographic 922 01:15:56.439 --> 01:16:00.319 image of an extraterrestrial or a reptilian or whatever, and then people that see 923 01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.600 that I think that it's real, and then they go out and spread that 924 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:08.239 information when it's not real, so that it's covered up with, you know, 925 01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:12.680 the government involvement. Yeah. Yeah, so on that saying, hell, 926 01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:16.720 I want to finish with this. Annie Jacobsen was on Lex Friedman I 927 01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:20.960 think the other day. She's a really really good journalist, and he asked 928 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:29.239 her about Roswell and she said that Roswell was stalin flying a remote control air 929 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:40.479 flying device over New Mexico with surgically deformed humans aboard to scare Americans into thinking 930 01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:44.600 that there was an alien invasion. That's what she said. This is the 931 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.560 woman who wrote the the book on Area fifty one, right, and she's 932 01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:51.399 an insider, insider, right, And that's what she said. Roswell was 933 01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:58.359 think about that, and that's exactly why people tended to believe in the late 934 01:16:58.439 --> 01:17:00.640 forties and into the fifties into the sixties, they were like, oh, 935 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:05.199 it's an alien invasion. All these weird and strange craft, the flying saucers 936 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.800 were all coming down from Earth. I mean, yeah, sure. She 937 01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.359 said that Stalin got the idea from the War of the world's broadcast powers as 938 01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.479 well. That's where the idea where this came from. And she was told 939 01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:21.079 this by a super high intelligence agent that's her source for almost everything that she 940 01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:26.399 has. She didn't say his name, but it's somebody high up. We 941 01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:29.359 told her all of this stuff. That's where she all of her books are 942 01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:33.239 from, this one guy who just tells her everything, right. I mean, 943 01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:36.840 it's the perfect it's a perfect cover up, and it's it's the perfect 944 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:42.199 story. You know, you can just shuffle the blame onto something that no 945 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.600 one ever sees, no one exists, you can't argue with it, you 946 01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:50.800 can't do anything about it. So it's a perfect cover story. It is 947 01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:55.199 unbelievable. Well, Jenny, thanks so much for coming on. Really appreciated 948 01:17:55.199 --> 01:18:00.920 amazing conversation. Can you let people know you give them the information and where 949 01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:05.720 they can watch JFKX and the website and your YouTube information as well. Yep, 950 01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.880 I got a show on YouTube named reality check. Just type in reality 951 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:14.039 check Jay Widner, they'll show up. Jaywidner dot com is where all my 952 01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:17.520 free writing is. My movies are all up on Gaya except for JFKX, 953 01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:23.640 which is on Amazon Prime. And everybody get ready for the next movie, 954 01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:30.199 because the next one is gonna blow you away. It is going to be 955 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:33.079 incredible and we're currently working on that one right now and then people are really 956 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.439 going to love. It's gonna take a little while because it's going to be 957 01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:44.039 really incredibly produced. So check out JFKX on Amazon Prime. Also if you're 958 01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:46.800 outside of the United States, so you can check it out on vimeo dot 959 01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:51.399 com as well internationally. And thanks everyone for being here. I really appreciate 960 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:54.680 your time list evening. Please be sure to hit the thumbs up on the 961 01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:58.239 help the channel and the algorithm. Sure subscribe at the bal Icon as well 962 01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:01.119 for notifications and Chloe Think, thank you very much for becoming a Writer Arranger 963 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:04.840 member. I really appreciate a new writer Arranger channel member. Video will be 964 01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:10.159 dropping tomorrow, so become a Writer Injured channel member to check out that episode. 965 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:12.640 All right, see you guys next time.