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Eighty sixty six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Tiger is a loser.

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Won nothing to the Marlins was a
couple of weeks back. I believe

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I said eleven times they had been
held to two runs or fewer. Now

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another shutout, despite Reesoulson doing a
hell of a job. Lion's schedule will

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be released tonight at eight o'clock.
Another example of how good the NFL is.

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They just they find a way to
market and stay in front of people

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constantly. In the NHL, Boston
ends Florida season with a two to one

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win. Edmonton beats Vancouver three to
two. Evan Bouchard with the game whin

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he goal thirty nine seconds left in
the game. Leon Dreysidtle had a goal

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on and assist. Edmonton and Vancouver
tied at two wins a piece. In

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the NBA, New York blows out
Indiana one twenty one nightey Win Jalen Brunson

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had forty four. He scored a
knixt playoff record twenty eight in the first

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half. Denver shocks Minnesota. Way
that series is flipped, isn't it?

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First time Minnesota has lost three straight
all season long. Nikola Jokic forty points,

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thirteen assists, second centat to ever
do that in a playoff game,

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It's incredible. He is an amazing
player, and you're sure as hell wouldn't

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think so looking at him. PGA
Championship aginst from ow At Valhalla, Scotty

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Scheffler the favorite. I'll tell you
why. Coming up. Let's get to

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the phone lines the Meyer online eight
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Ben. Who's waiting for us?
Chris from Boyne City. Hi, Chris,

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good morning to you. How are
you good? Good morning? I'm

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doing well. How are you I'm
doing great? Thanks? Good. First

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off, it's good to hear your
voice in the mornings. I enjoy listening

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to you. Well. Thanks,
Chris, I appreciate that very much.

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And I have a question and a
thought day. My question is, if

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they were to release Bias, is
his contract fully guaranteed? Yes, so

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they have to pay him every dollar
over the next three and a half years.

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That that's how baseball works. Yep. Yeah, But so my thought

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is if they did move on from
him, what about if Banya is that

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short step? Would you want him
there every day? Do you want Bias

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there every day? Yeah? Would
you? Would you want? Would you

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want Andy A Banyez at shortstop every
day? Compared to what we've got going

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on now? I guess I'd be
okay with it because I'd rather see We

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know that he can hit, and
I'd rather see well Keith that second take

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his lumps and what I'd rather watch
him that one sixty than watched Bayas that

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one sixties. I get it.
You realize Andy A. Banyas has never

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played shortstop? Well, I didn't
know that part. Yeah, he's been

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a second baseman, he's been a
third baseman, he's even adapted to the

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outfield. He has never played shortstop. Gotcha. Well, I'm kind of

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kind of in desperation mode. It
feels like, so I'm just brainstorming.

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I guess Yeah, No, I
get it. I completely understand why you

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would think that. And thanks to
the phone call, Chris, I appreciate

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you listening to Sheboygan very much.
Up there in wg R Y won a

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one point one FM up North Sports
Radio. I learned this because I felt

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the same way, by the way, not necessarily about andy A Bonyez,

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but about certain players. I had
learned this And sorry if I've repeated this

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story before from Mike Babcock, who
used to be the head coach of the

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Red Wings. And do you guys
remember a guy with the name of Brad

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Stewart who was a really good defenseman
for Detroit, but he was the number

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three defenceman on those Red Wings teams. And I remember asking Mike Babcock,

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why not move as good as Brad
Stewart is, why not move him to

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the first pairing? And his responses
was, in so many words, because

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some guys are better in the situation
you put them in, and why not

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just leave him in that situation to
continue to thrive instead of weakening two more.

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In other words, if you moved
him to the first line, he

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would be weaker against top lines and
you would also weaken your second line.

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Is that the case for andy A
Banyez. I don't know. I'm not

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going to try and fool you and
say this is the secret elixir and yes

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it's going to be fixed. Oh
I can't say that. Here's what I

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do know, andy A Banyez has
never been an everyday guy. That doesn't

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mean he can't be. It doesn't
mean you can't earn your way into that.

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So please don't take it like I
think this is a ridiculous idea.

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I don't. So far this season, he's played in what nineteen games,

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and he's sitting in you know,
well over three hundred three to twenty I

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think is what I saw last night. That's fine. Maybe, just maybe,

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India Banyez is that effective because of
the infrequency that he plays last year

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as a Tiger in his first year, one hundred and fourteen games, eleven

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homers, two sixty four batting average, a decent on base eh with the

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slug and ops. You would take
it from that position from that player.

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He's thirty one years old. I'm
not going to transition him. This is

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my opinion. Now. I wouldn't
transition him into a shortstop for the first

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time in his career for this team. Like it or not. I mean,

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is it's really hard in baseball to
find quick fixes within your organization during

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a season. Think about it.
If a guy was that good, Let's

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say a guy's playing in the miners
right now. So Chris is in the

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miners right now, Chris from Boyne
City's in the miners playing shortstop. We're

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going to bring him up and we
expect him to be better than our established

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veteran. Why wouldn't it. Chris
made it out of spring training. Oftentimes,

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if a guy's not on the forty
man roster, then you've got to

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make a move to get him on
that forty man roster, which means exposing

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somebody else to waivers. Who that
is, I don't know. Should I

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care? Probably not. I get
tired of. I've always felt the Tigers'

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forty man roster was way overprotected.
It's a little different now, but under

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ala Vila was way overprotected. Everybody
looks at draft picks and trades and all

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that other stuff, and those are
fair, but look at what you do

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with a forty man roster. You're
holding on to certain guys who are not

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valuable period. I like Zach Short, really good guy, okay, unbelievable

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golfer and a really good locker room
guy. They kept him on the forty

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man time and time and time again. He's been released twice this year.

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It's crazy. Certain guys they're going
to pass through waivers or you might get

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another shot at them. But the
Tigers used to hold onto these forty man

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rosters, the thirty seven, thirty
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like they were gold and they were
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guys like that. It shows you
either the lack of depth or the inability

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to scout talent. Maybe it's both. It was ridiculous, but that's what

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they did. Are they doing the
same thing now? There are certain guys

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where we're we just don't know about
yet. But it's hard to argue that

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this team lacks a young player who
could come up and feel comfortable at that

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position arguably outside of you know,
Catcher, I would say shortstop arguably the

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most important position on the field of
play, and they don't have it.

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off by semi apologize. Okay, I

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don't like being the guy who finds
the easiest thing to complain about and use

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three hours to bitch about it.
I don't like doing that, but I

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truly believe that standards have to be
raised with every team that Detroit has to

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offer, or the state has to
offer. If you're listening on the Max

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ninety six point ONEFM the game and
you follow Grand Valley and Fair Estate,

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you expect them to contend for for
national championships. The Glee acts a given,

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but you expect them to contend for
national championships. That's an honor.

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That's an honor for those two programs. That tells you they have set a

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standard of excellence. You also understand
as a sports fan that things can be

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cyclical. Winning is challenging. You
got to have the right pieces when you

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have rebuilds. It's going to take
a little bit of time. You understand

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all that, as do I.
The Tigers have won four World championships.

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Think about this for a second.
They've won four World championships thirty five,

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forty five, sixty eight, and
eighty four. Nineteen eighty four is the

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last time this team won a World
championship. That's embarrassing the buyer. The

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bar has to be raised higher.
The acceptance of playing hard and having good

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dudes should be over. Enough is
enough? How long is long enough?

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That's where this comes from. It's
okay, we've done that with the Lions,

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right because they were never winners.
They just weren't. They weren't consistent

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winners. There's a long history of
the Detroit Lions, folks. That's the

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beauty of what the state has to
offer the four major I've said this a

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long time about the state of Michigan
and Detroit specifically. The beauty is that

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we combine our passion with college sports
and pro sports. I was doing an

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interview on a podcast not too long
ago with a guy who was pretty important

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in my radio career early on,
and Greg Henson, who said, when

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people came to town and they asked
him or they wanted to tell him what

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they were ready for in certain roles
regarding and they just rattled off the four

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major pro sports teams. He said, no, no, no, you

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have to be educated on the local
college teams as well, because this area

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is as passionate about their college teams
as they are their pro teams. There's

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not many places like that in the
country. Folks, find me another place

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in the nation that does that.
It's one of the beauties of being a

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sports fan and a sports personality in
the area. But people used to complain

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all the time about Michigan's national championships. Look at how far back they went.

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Who cares you were still tabbed a
champion. The Tigers have done that

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just four times. They're going to
celebrate at some point this summer, which

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really bothers me, to be honest
with you, It hurts me because I

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know, damn well, there's going
to be a celebration a forty year celebration

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of my favorite team, the nineteen
eighty four world champion Detroit Tigers. That's

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the last time this team celebrated a
championship. How do you figure it's incredible?

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It really is. Those are the
things that really pissed me off because

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this team, this organization, is
supposed to be better than that. This

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team, this organization is supposed to
be held to a higher standard, and

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we've let the standard go. They've
tried quick fixes. It hasn't worked.

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The draft picks, a lot of
the draft picks have not worked. One

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of the most important positions in this
sport is shortstop, and the attitude has

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been, well, we've got some
versatile guys and we can do this,

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and we can do my god,
man, look at their top prospects.

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First of all, they're forty man. Is you know they got a couple

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of guys on there like, are
you serious? Really? This is what

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I mean about the forty man Take
a look at that, because that's important.

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Those are some of the important things. Look at the forty man roster.

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The guys they're protecting. They're protecting
Buddy Kennedy, Edieth, Leonard a

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Kill, bad Ryan Valley. Those
are the guys they're predicting. If they're

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gone. Honestly, if they're gone, do you think some what is grabbing

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those guys? How much are you
going to miss those guys? I guess

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is what is what I would ask. And then when you look at the

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prospects, and I'm not saying it's
Barren, it's not Jackson, Joe high

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If you missed it last night,
Tigers lose one zip to the Marlins.

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Just bite Rhese Olson throwing a career
best eight scoreless inning. Sixty of

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his ninety six pitches were for strikes, surrender just three hits, struck out

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six, but the Tigers fall and
lose for the twenty first time this year,

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the same number of victories as losses
so far in the NHL. Boston

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beats Florida two to one. The
Panthers season is over, and that's a

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really good hockey team, man,
really good hockey team. Edmonton beats Vancouver

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three, two Oilers with a power
play goal in nine straight games, a

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playoff franchise record for them. That
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My thought was while watching those games, and I'm flipping back and forth,

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right, but my thought was,
I hear people all the time say,

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you know what, next year,
you know, the incentive is there for

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this team. People tell me that
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So I expect them. They got
close, but I expect them to

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win it all next year because they
came up just short this year. Okay,

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I would remind you that there was
a lot of incentive for Florida this

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year. They made it to the
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they're bounced in the second round.
There's a ton of incentive for teams in

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general. I mean, Boston will
have plenty of it moving forward. Carolina

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Colorado both were division winners a year
ago but never reached the ultimate goal.

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You don't think there's incentive for all
those teams. Who has the most incentives.

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You can't look at it just for
your team. Well, they got

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closed, so next year they're gonna
get there. There's a lot of teams

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that say that, just about every
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all. You don't think Milwaukee,
the Milwaukee Bucks had incentive or the Miami

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Heat had incentive this year, but
they lost in the first round. Granted

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Jimmy Butler was hurt, but they
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You think in the offseason they're taking
jumpers, they're in the gym, they're

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on the track every single day,
going, man, we came up just

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short. It's going to be different
this year. Absolutely, they were even

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the Pistons. Anybody who was on
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that won seventeen flipping games, you
don't think all off season they were partly

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driven to be better, and what
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So when I watch those playoff hockey
games and I think of just how frustrating

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it can be in that sport,
and it can be you work so hard

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to gain control of the puck in
the zone and then boom, a turnover

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or a shot that hits a leg
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you got to start all over again. Good games last night, though.

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Evan Bouchard had the game when he'
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NBA Knicks blow out. Indiana won
twenty one ninety one. So many

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people thought it was a must win
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thought that, because Indiana had won
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and the Knicks were at home.
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forty four points, fifth time this
postseason he's reached forty or more Friday in

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Indiana. Don't be surprised if it
goes seven. Denver beat Minnesota one,

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twelve ninety seven. I watched that
game and I thought to myself, the

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heart and experience of a champion.
Draymond Green made a really good point on

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their pregame show. He and Vince
Carter were part of it with Kenny Smith

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and Ernie Johnson on TNT and Draymond
Green, who actually seems quite normal outside

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the court. Was talking about how
the experience of Denver and the youth of

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Minnesota being combined right now is helping
the Nuggets. In addition to that,

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in addition to that, they talk
about he was talking about who's playing better,

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and he knows who's playing better.
Nikola Jokic forty pointsints, thirteen assists,

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Aaron Gordon eighteen points, ten boards. Nuggets have won three in a

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row in the series, first time
that the home team has won a game

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in the series. Anthony Edwards is
one of, if not the most athletic

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player in the league, and that's
hard to say considering there's a ton of

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athletes, high level athletes in the
NBA. He was five for fifteen,

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just eighteen points. Lastly, the
PGA Championship begins tomorrow Valhalla in Kentucky.

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Scotti Scheffler is the favorite. I'll
tell you why. He has wins in

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four of his last five starts.
The tournament that he did not win,

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he finished second. He has forty
straight rounds of power or better, think

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of that, forty consecutive rounds,
not forty holes. Forty straight rounds.

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Forty straight rounds of eighteen holes where
he has gone par or better. That's

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unbelievable. That's why he's the favorite. Rory McElroy's in that conversation. Brooks

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Kopka is no doubt involved in that
conversation. A lot of it has to

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do with how the course plays.
So is it really good for a guy

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like Wyndham Clark, you know who? It's good for bryceon Deshamba. It's

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a big boy course. It might
favor him if he can keep his concentration.

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I did find it interesting watching a
little bit of the coverage on Golf

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Channel yesterday. Aaron Oberheiser was really
pissed at John Rahm because John Rohn came

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out and said he still considers himself
a member of the PGA Tour and supports

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the PGA Tour, and Olverheuser was
Overholser was going crazy. He was so

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upset. He's like, this is
so offensive. If you wanted to be

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part of the PGA's tour, then
stay here, don't go to the live

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tour anyway. A lot of different
things that I was thinking about yesterday threw

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a lot out there. Anything is
there for you to chomp on? On

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the Meyer Hotline eighty sixty six,
eight three, eight forty eight, forty

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Yeah, we got David Hudsonville.
All right, Dave, how you

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doing, buddy? Good morning,
chef. How are you? I'm doing

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great? How about yourself? So
a couple of things he just brought up.

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Man, if you do not get
a chance to watch Nicolo jokicch you

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have to because he's one of the
best. Is this crazy what he does

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at his size and his athleticism for
a man that big, who looks that

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awkward, but he's not, you
know, I mean you you used to.

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I mean you rarely see and he's
see it now, but rarely do

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you see centers play guard and run
the offense through the center just become you

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know, part of the NBA now, but especially with the ookis but he

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also goes in and posts, and
he also shoots the three, makes eighty

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two percent of his free throw It's
an amazing all around basketball player. And

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then jumping to what you said too
about Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards at twenty

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two is a better basketball player right
now than Michael Jordan was. I'm not

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saying he's a better basketball player overall, or he ever will be possibly,

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but right now he's got more tools
than Michael Jordan. I mean, Michael

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Jordan couldn't shoot the jumper early in
his career in the Piston That was part

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of Jordan rules, you know.
And then but Anthony Edwards has more potential

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if he gets on the right team
and they go And speaking of a young

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team, you're right about Draymond.
Draymond's really interesting to listen to because his

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basketball, like you, so high. He may act childish on the court

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at times, but he's so dang
smart. Remember for the Pistons, we

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had to lose before we won.
Bird stole the ball. Remember when we

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were just teetering with Isaiah and Joe
and that group in Lambier was just starting

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to go and all of a sudden
we lost and felt the pain of losing

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in order to come back to learn
how to be a championship team for a

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few years. Yeah, but do
you believe that do you believe in that

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process? Do you think that's something
that has to be experienced. I think

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guys have to think. I mean, I think you can win sometimes without

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it, you know, I think
magic can happen and things come along.

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But I also think there's something about
seasoning, and I think there's something about

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being there and feeling it under those
lights, under those conditions, sometimes the

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pain of losing and sometimes how to
win. But I do think there's something

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about the confidence gained or the pain
felt, you know, in those situations

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that teach you how to be a
champion. And I think that's what Draymond

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was pointing to. You know,
death Denver just knows they're a better team.

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They took a couple of punches,
but they came back and said,

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hold it now, we're going to
turn things around. Let you know,

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you know who your daddy is.
Yeah, that's well said. Look,

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there's no always or nevers right in
a situation like that, right because,

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like you said, Magic Johnson didn't
have to experience it, he wanted it

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as a rookie's that doesn't always happen. But you can't say that it never

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happens because he proved it. But
there are other times where you would think

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that experience and that heartbreak would inspire
you to be better the following year,

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and it just doesn't always work out. As a matter of fact, I

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would say it works out fewer times
than it does work out because there's only

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one champion. Yeah, and think
how many great players we can think of

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and never won a championship in multiple
sports. They were tremendous players, so

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they know, and I think when
they're When you're young, you don't realize

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it. You think you're going to
play forever, but then all of a

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sudden as time goes, you realize, I just want to be on a

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winner. I want to get a
chance to be able to win a championship.

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And it becomes kind of a pursuit
for profession. It really does.

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Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. Thanks Dave, always always a great

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call. Really is really enjoy it. Here's the thing that I've said about

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about athletes for a long time,
and again, no always are nevers.

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I truly believe when they're young,
they're going to go get their money.

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Makes sense, right, I mean
that proverbial window is open. The door

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will however you want to phrase it. It's open for you get as much

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as you possibly can. If you
don't have your ring, if you don't

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experience what it's like to be a
champion, a world champion, you're going

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to find a place to do that
what place is going to be best suited

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for me. I want a ring
or I want another one. The money

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I have is sufficient. Now it's
time to go get the championship. Something's

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missing in my career, right,
that's oftentimes what happens, and there's plenty

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of examples for it. But to
Dave's point, Nikola Jokic wins the Michael

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Jordan Award before the game, he's
handed it by Adam Silver, the commissioner

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of the NBA, and then what
does he do. He goes out and

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shows everybody why he is just that
forty points thirteen is sis And by the

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way, the thing I did not
mention no turnovers. Maybe that's his big

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as statistic as any other, the
fact that this guy's got the ball in

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his hands as often as he does
and he's not giving it back to the

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opposition. Now, to Dave's point, if you watched him dribble, just

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stand there and dribble like he's a
massive human being, but you wouldn't.

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But he's light on his feet,
like he's got great feet inside, he's

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got incredible vision. When other great
players at the highest level are talking about

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how good this guy is and Anthony
Edwards said as much after the game.

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When they're saying that, you know, the guy's totally legit. I can

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give you numbers all day long that
would support it. But sometimes the best

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support really is not what a coach
says about a guy, because the coach

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is always going to be glowing about
their own really good player or in this

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case, yes, I'm going to
say it great player. Listen to what

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other people who play against him have
to say, like Mike Malone. He

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talks about Nikola Jokic, and for
good reason, he's his guy. But

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look at what Anthony Edwards says about
him. Anthony Edwards said after the game,

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he goes Look, I said it
after game one when we won,

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and game two. He's the MVPs, the best player in the NBA.

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He's shown it the last three games, three games in a row. He's

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special. Gotta give him his flowers. He was the guy tonight. Well

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he's been the guy all year long. He's a bit of a freak of

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nature. And the box scores sometimes
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Jokic. Guy goes out there.
Sure he took twenty two shots. I

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would want him to take twenty twenty
two shots as well. If he's hitting

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fifteen of them, he's a plus
twenty one on the night. I don't

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know what numbers matter to you.
If plus minus is only important in hockey,

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I know a lot of people they
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I think it's a little overblown.
Okay, maybe it is overblown,

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but there's something to it, right. It's not the gospel, but it's

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part of the reading. Forty points, thirteen assists, seven rebounds, two

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steals, a block, no turnovers. There's only two guys who played for

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Denver last night who did not commit
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who played under a minute. There's
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who did not commit a turnover.
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who played twelve minutes. Nikola Jokic, with the ball in his hands as

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often as he has it last night, played forty one minutes, no turnovers.

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Dude's really really good. You may
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he can't do what Janisanta the Kumpo
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Edwards can do. He can't do
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