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And winning record nine and eight,
for the first time ever that all the

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teams in a Division one had a
winning record with the Bengals and only went

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not in the playoffs. If somebody
had said two or three months ago that

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the Bengals three teams we are going
to get to the playoffs out of the

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Northern Division of the AFC, and
the Bengals will not be one of them,

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nobody would have believed it. But
it happened. Pitchers and Catchers report

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in about four or five weeks.
But until then, Governor Mike DeWine the

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House Bill sixty eight, he vetoed
it a few days back. I spoke

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to some of the leadership of the
House earlier this morning and I was told

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they're going to try to override it
on Wednesday. And Governor Mike DeWine,

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welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show of
this glorious Monday afternoon in the tri State.

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And we heard your explanation and your
reasons for issuing the veto, and

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it appears, according to some that
it's going to be overridden. Would you

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view that if the Republicans you're guys
and your women, and the House and

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Senate override your veto When you have
the Lieutenant Governor against you on this,

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the Attorney General is against you,
the auditor is against you, the Treasurer

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is against you, the Secretary of
State is against you. The House and

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the Senate Republicans are against you.
You stand alone, like a tenfold beacon

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in the night, and you see
something that all these other Republicans don't see.

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What do you see that all those
other Republicans don't see? Well,

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first of all, Billy, let's
let's talk about what this is not about.

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What any kind of disagreement is not
about. I issue in order on

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Friday, no surgery for minors.
I think that's where the House and sent

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are. That's certainly where I am. And you know that's not been an

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issue the I think it's not been
an issue. Uh, you know,

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I'm not you know, in favor
of having men who transitioned to a woman

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play sports and that you know,
so we're not there's no dispute about that.

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But you but you vetoed that,
you vetoed that part of that bill

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correct. Well, bill, what
they did is they took two bills and

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they put them together. And so
look here, here's what the dispute comes

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down to, you know, our
our party stands for UH prontal rights.

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We stand for families. We believe
that UH families should make decisions and not

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government whenever, whenever possible. And
so what I did bill really during during

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the Christmas holidays, and and you
know, this bill came to me,

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I had ten days to sign it
or not sign it. Uh. You

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know, I spent a lot of
time uh talking to medical experts, but

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more importantly, I talk to families. You know. I talked to moms

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and dads, uh, you know, just just people like you who you

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know, have been faced with this
UH situation in their family. And I

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came down to the conclusion that we're
better off letting parents make this decision.

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And and and so you know,
as I, as I said at the

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time when I vetoed it, if
I were to sign this bill, we

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would be saying that the that the
state of Ohio, the government knows better

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than parents, the people who have
raised this child, the people who love

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this child the most, the people
who've agonized with this child as the child

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has gone through some some difficult times. UH government knows better. And it

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seems to me that's not a Republican
position. That's not a conservative position.

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Uh. And but more important than
that, it's just not the right it's

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not the right position. I mean, I had Bill, I've had people

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who I've had, you know,
sit down with me. I had a

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couple, uh, came over to
our house over the Christmas break, invited

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them over just to kind of hear
their story, and you know, they

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looked me in the eye and they
basically said, and I had other couples

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do the same thing. My child
would not be alive today but for the

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fact that they were able to get
care at the Cincinnati Children's Hospital. They

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were able to get care at Columbus
Children's Hospital and work with professionals and made,

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you know, a decision. The
most important thing in all this,

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it's it's clear to me, is
mental health care. And you know,

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two thirds, two thirds of families
who get this mental health care and the

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child gets the mental health care do
not go forward with with with anything in

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regard to transgender They kind of figure
out that it's something else and they get

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the mental health care that they need. So it's a relatively small number of

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people. But for those people who
get down to it, after months and

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months of going through this, and
they've got the advice of doctors. But

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more importantly, they know in their
heart, you know, what they think

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is right. They make that decision. Why should the government be telling them,

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no, we know more than you
do about your your child. Governor,

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Since ask me a question, I'll
give you an answer, which is

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government tells parents all kinds of things
that they can't do with their children.

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In fact, masking, there were
many parents that didn't want their kids masked

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up. A government said, parents
don't know best. Maybe there's parents that

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want to give their kid sixteen year
old marijuana. Well, government knows best.

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You can't do that. Maybe some
parents don't want to put their kid

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in a child safety seat, Well
government knows best. Parents, you can't

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raise your kid that way. Well
let me let me tell you. Let

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me tell you the difference. Let
me tell you the difference. I don't

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know any I can't think of any
cage where we have a situation where the

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doctor that is working with the child, or the hospital that is working with

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the doctor and the child, the
child and the parents all want to do

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one thing, and the government comes
in and tells the doctors no know tells

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the child know and tells the parents
know. All the examples you've given are

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good examples. Bill. Yes,
we do make decisions when we say parents

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can't do things, and you know
that obviously are in the and not in

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the interests of the child. But
this is an eric where there is a

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disagreement, and you've got good people
on both sides of the of this issue,

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and you know the people who are
going to vote to override if they

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do that, I'm voted for this
bill. They're good people. They you

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know, they think they're doing what's
best for the for the child. But

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it just seems to me that I
can't as governor, and I couldn't go

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ahead and say, look, government
knows best. When we line up and

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you've got the doctor saying one thing, that parents saying the same thing,

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the child's saying the other thing,
and now this time the government comes in

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and says, oh, no,
you're all wrong, you're all wrong,

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and we're right. Government's right,
even though the people who are voting on

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don't know the child. Uh So, look, but good people on both

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sides, I get it. Reasonable
people can disagree about this. I did

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what I did because I thought it
was right. We have a system of

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government where the legislature can override my
veto. It's in the Constitution, and

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I'm sure that there are you know, people who will cast their votes this

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week or later on, will do
what they think is right. Are you

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politic and are you making calls to
legislators, either directly or indirectly, encouraging

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them not to override your veto.
The only thing I've done bill, I

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talked to some legislators. I wanted
to make sure everybody understood what we did

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on Friday, and what we did
on Friday is really, in some sense,

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do some things to protect people that
wasn't even in the bill. And

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the part that was in the bill
that is consistent is no surgery that was

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in the bill. I issued an
executive board of My order went into effect

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right away. Any legislation takes takes
a while before it goes into effect,

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as you know. So now today
i'm the state a while because in my

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order there's no surgeries can be allowed
on a minor second, we issued in

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order. Everybody who's looked at this
says, well, we don't have enough

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data. We issued an order that
said from our health department, if you're

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a doctor, if you're a hospital, you're going to have to start reporting

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this stuff. You know, we
report abortions, we report flu report you

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know this and that, and there's
no reason we can't report that. No

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one's names reported, you know,
none of this, but the data is.

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So we did that and I wanted
to make sure people understood that.

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And the third thing we did is
issued in order. And this has to

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do with adults. The bill only
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do with adults. That struck me
as I look more and more at this

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and listen, listen that the most
important thing, whether it's an adult that's

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going through this or a child,
is you've got to have the mental health

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care up on front, and it's
got to be first, and it's gonna

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be lengthy, it's got to be
comprehensive and before anybody even thinks about making

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any other kind of decision. What
we have now with with adults before we

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issued our order is there's no there's
no real requirement of psychiatric care. Uh.

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And so what we didn't want is
these pop up clinics who want to

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make money, starting in different places
around Ohio and just you know, writing

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writing prescriptions. That is not good
and it's not the best certainly not the

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best practice. And again I don't
know anybody that really disagrees with without either,

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but it's not not into the law. So in answer to your question,

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my conversations with legislators, if I've
had any, I have had it

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with some. Uh has simply been
here's what we did on Friday, Here's

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why we did it. We think
this, we think this works. And

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Governor, assuming the legislature overrides your
veto, which is according to one of

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the leaders there, that they're confident
they're going to do it, would you

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view that this is a rejection of
one of the major policies of Mike DeWine.

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You don't veto too many bills and
you stand alone. Is this a

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rejection of Mike DeWine's policy? If
if the veto is overridden, No,

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I stand. Look, I stand
with families, and that's why the veto.

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But one of the things that I
think sometimes is missed. And I

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know the uh, God love them, the news media, you know,

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life's controversy, because that's that's interesting, right. The area is if you

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look at the areas that are the
central to what Mike de Wine is doing,

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what our team is doing, what
I think the state needs to do.

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There's big, like three or four
big areas. In each one of

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these areas, the legislature has stood
with us. UH. Economic development is

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number one. UH Number number two
is education, a particularly emphasis on what

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we now call the science of reading. We're rolling that out in every school

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in the state of Ohio. Legislature
backed me one hundred hundred percent sent on

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that. Mental health, making sure
that we build a mental health system in

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the state that we've never had before. The legislature has given us strengthly an

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unprecedent amount of money, and we've
rolled this out with a lot of help

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going into the local communities. We're
out there yet, but the legislature has

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backed us on that as well.
And getting back to the other I started

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with, which which is the whole
area of economic development. You know,

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one of the things we asked the
legislature to do is we know that there

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are sites in Ohio, and sites
not not just in you know the three

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c's, but in other parts of
Ohio, sort of the other Ohio that

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sometimes gets ignored. We know there
are good job sites there, and we

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ask for specifically for money to be
able to help these communities develop these sites

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so that when a company comes in
and says, hey, Governor, we

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need a site and it needs to
be this big da da da da da

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da, and we can say,
yep, we've got a site and it's

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ready for you. And so all
those things, Bill, those are the

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core of what we do every single
day. This is a bill that came

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along that has got a lot of
publicity. I understand it. I studied

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it hard, made I made a
decision. It affects a relatively small number

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of people in the state. Again, I think I'm with the parents,

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and I think I'm with parents making
this decision. I think it's the conservative

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point of view. I think it's
the high way to do it. Obviously,

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we have people on the other side
who disagree they override me, and

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if they do, they do.
That's part of our system. You know,

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your decision here is awfully unpopular,
especially among conservatives. And when your

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own lieutenant governor says I disagree with
the governor and he wants to be your

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replacement, has that created a rift
between you and your lieutenant governor. No,

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Look, Bill, if you find
too, if you can find two

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people to agree about, absolutely everything. Uh, you know something's wrong.

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And he and I agree on ninety
nine percent of what we do. Uh.

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This is a uh something that is
impactful very much for the people who

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who it impacts, which is why
I've drawn the line and said, you

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know, not with not with my
my my signature will will just become law.

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Uh. But again on the on
the things that affect most people,

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education, job training, our career
tech centers, making sure that they get

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the resources they need to continue to
expand scholarships for our kids going to college,

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economic development, all of these things. Lutaig Bever and I are in

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agreement, and Frank of the Legislature
and I are an agreement. Let me

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go over two or three quick matters. Uh. Marijuana status. I had

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Birdie Whisper in my ear. That
pay Course stadium yesterday had a marijuana smoking

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section much like cigarette smoking section.
You can legally smoke marijuana, you just

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can't buy it. You can grow
it in your home right now, but

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that takes three to four months to
actually do it. Things are completely confusing.

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I'm going to have on Rob Sanders
later on about the difficulties in Kenton

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County, which is not your concern. I imagine about Ohio's marijuana laws.

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As we sait here this Monday afternoon, can you give me an update on

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marijuana status in the state of Ohias. Yes, the legislature's coming back and

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you know, houses coming back this
week to vote on this override. You

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know, I like for them to
stick around and work on this marijuana situation.

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Look, Bill, I was not
in favor of legal marijuana to stay.

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I mean, it's a stupid idea, but it passed, and so

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I, you know, respect the
will of people. Fifty seven percent of

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people voted in favor of this,
but I don't think the people who vote

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in favor of it voted want of
a situation that we have now, which

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is what the law mandates. Unless
we change it. We need to.

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We frankly need to change it.
We have a situation today where you can

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use marijuana in the state of Ohio, you can grow marijuana, but you

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can't buy it legally in the state
of the model, nor can you buy

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the seeds to grow. This makes
no sense. And what's happening is you're

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starting to see a black market appear
in Ohio where people think they can buy

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it legally, but there's no place
they can legally sell it, and we

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have no quality control. We have
a black market developing. You go in,

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somebody goes and buys marijuana in this
black market. They have no idea

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if it's got pesticides in it,
they have no idea what the THHC level

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is, They have no idea if
it has some other drug in there.

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And it's just a not a good
situation. So the legislature can change that.

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We need help on and doing that. And the Senate did pass a

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bill. I'd like for the House
to pass a bill. It may not

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be the same as the Senate.
That's fine, we can do all those

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things worked out. But what we'd
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marijuana through the stores now that are
selling it for the medical marijuana and again

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eliminate this this black market, and
at least people would know that what they're

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buying is in fact they you know, not adulterated in some way. The

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other thing I'm asking the legislation to
do. We got a real problem.

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You can go out today in Ohio
and buy buy a hemp product. Many

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gas stations have it, and the
real problem is that kids can buy it

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and it's a loophole in the federal
law, it's a loophole in the state

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law, and it's hallucinogenic, and
it's just, you know, I can't

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close this loophole without the legislature taking
action. And I just you know,

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I know Senator Huffman, Steve Huffman
is working on a He and I talked

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a few days ago. He tells
me he's working on a separate bill.

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So I'd like it done either by
a separate bill or if they want to

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do it and throw it into the
marijuana fix, then they can do that.

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I don't really care. I just
need to get it on my desk

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so I can sign it. We
can start enforcing law that says you cannot

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sell this to a twelve year old. That's just absurd situation that we have

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today. But I have to have
help from the legislature on this. Lastly,

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we have about minute remaining New York, California, parts of Illinois now

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have mask mandates. Do you see
Governor Mike DeWine having any more mask mandates

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with COVID the flu a viral infection. Are mask mandates coming to Ohio?

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No, absolutely not. I don't
see that at all. Look, Bill

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what again, this is all voluntary, but if you look at the data

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of people that are we're still losing
people from COVID. We lose people from

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the flu. I mean, so
we just encourage field get your flu shot,

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uh and and get get the most
updated COVID shot and if you want

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to reduce the chances of you dying
or having long COVID. And I think

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people are really cheerful of long COVID. They don't die, but they end

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up of this thing that ends.
You know, the data is abundantly clear

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that getting that you know, new
shot of COVID that you can get many

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many places in Ohio. There's no
there's no backup on it. You can

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get that is really the best advice. And that's what people, you know,

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I would suggest they do based on
the best medical science. But we're

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not going to compel anybody to do
it. And we're not going to compel

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anybody we're mask either. All right, Governor Mike Dwine, thank you.

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You're a tenfold beacon in the night. You stand alone against the Republican Party,

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and each side has good intentions,
and each side look the same problem

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and come out with different solutions.
Mike Dwaine. We got our Governor,

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Mike DeWine, thank you for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show as my first

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Happy New Year. Yes, we
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turn off of the thank you,
thank you. Spring training is coming.

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It's coming a month. It's here, it's here. Governor Mike Dwine,

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thank you very much. Thank you. Let's continue with more your reaction five

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