WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:03.720 Hey. Good afternoon, I' m Carlen Ramirez. We are doing on 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:07.080 a mission more than ten radio- aliseño in his ears here, in designing 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:11.960 ando in the new season, here broadcasting from capo worked in San Luis, 4 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:14.320 Potosi one hundred and thirteen in the Colonia Roma. Revenge for a tour of 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:18.239 the showrum because it has high- design furniture, so come and take a 6 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:23.679 turn. They' re probably going to look amazing in their project, in 7 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:27.600 their personal project, as well as some remodeling or something, so come and 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.320 take a turn. Here I work. And I am very happy because I 9 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.359 have a guest that I have known for a thousand years, that is, 10 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:40.079 a thousand years, and the truth is that I really like this person' 11 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.479 s visit because, apart from it was at the beginnings of Dr Radio too 12 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:49.280 and I was also at the beginning of when he was independent and so today 13 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:51.880 it was like the reunion and remastering of that podcast a thousand years ago. 14 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:58.280 Then I would very much like to introduce Juan Carlos Flores how you are for 15 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:03.439 the Karen attempt to be here. Years since college. Yeah, since college, 16 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.599 I' ve been very young. We' re not still young. 17 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.120 Of course we are young, but this year I don' t, I 18 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.599 mean, I remember that podcast too. No, and I had another mark. 19 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:18.319 Uh- huh, you had another office. It was a very new 20 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:23.439 adventure, also completely new in the branch. I was leaving school, I 21 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:29.879 was not teaching classes and I was passing, I mean, the east pass 22 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:30.599 of faith. Just like that to see what' s gonna happen. It 23 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:36.079 was completed. It was a lot, a lot of effort there at the 24 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:40.920 time. I remember ten more years now. We' re gonna be eight 25 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.680 kids a day, Radio. I think it has to be like, yes, 26 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.519 I think eight years, because they were the first ones, they were 27 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.480 the first you, yes, but the one we know bad, oh no 28 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:53.359 yes, that we know much more. That' s already going, yes, 29 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.120 of course, still a lot more. We' ve known each other 30 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.280 since college. And the truth is it' s a very important to me 31 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.719 that you come here, because it was like seeing us at different stages and 32 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.760 at this stage I don' t know more formal for you maybe also for 33 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:12.159 me. And so keep evolving how good to see you, since following the 34 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.680 architecture still. How good that is already with another mat, another concept, 35 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.960 but the more formal, more evolved, you say you have evolved learning, 36 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.479 learning and not yet yet, Yes, yet, but it is not the 37 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.759 same, not definitely. You see it with other eyes, not too, 38 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:34.120 but I don' t see it. Hey, and first of all, 39 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:39.000 I' d like to start this nice interview by asking you who it is, 40 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.879 Juan Carlos Flores, who is it? Who is it? How you 41 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:47.680 would define it, both personally and professionally, how you would define it. 42 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:53.960 Hey, look, today I' m at a stage of a lot of 43 00:02:53.879 --> 00:03:04.159 personal knowledge, ok personal growth in projecting myself, i e knowing many parts 44 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:08.000 of me that of my consciousness. Today I can tell you that for five 45 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:16.560 years or so. I am not the same as regards spirituality to forms of 46 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:23.840 character because somehow I wanted to get into my history why I lived in a 47 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:29.120 certain way for what, of course, a goal, a sense of life. 48 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:40.360 So that' s my quest today. I am not a finished matter, 49 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.159 because everyone learns and everything and I go living and learning. But of 50 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:51.479 course I think that today I can consider myself as someone a little bit, 51 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:58.319 maybe one more recording of consciousness that today makes me enjoy more the day makes 52 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.159 me very grateful for what I have, what I don' t have or 53 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.280 what happens that doesn' t happen. That for me has been a way 54 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.960 of living very level, very free, of a lot of freedom. In 55 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:13.199 that today I see the challenges, not as bad things of life, but 56 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:17.120 I have in blood and you, if you' re on certain tests somehow, 57 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.879 you' re going to try them at some point. So, right 58 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:25.920 now, I' m at that stage. I feel very impassioned, very, 59 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:31.439 very calm. I see problems as part of life, grief, as 60 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:36.560 part of life, loss, gain. I believe that today, where I 61 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:42.920 consider this being also a human being. Many mistakes, of course, many 62 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:48.959 many mistakes, many falls, fighting, fighting with a sense of life. 63 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:54.079 I think that' s like today. I consider myself that way. Oh, 64 00:04:54.319 --> 00:05:00.680 what a father, yes, what a father, and professionally, we 65 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.399 ' re a group. They had another mark when I started, then certain 66 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:14.680 things happened. I slid and generated another brand that has constituted since seventeen, 67 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:24.079 seventeen, seven, myths, seven years old, equal basically from scratch. 68 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:33.600 Everybody. Thank you for saying we' re good, but I don' 69 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:39.160 t like it. This is how our clients and ok know us and the 70 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:45.519 group went here and you already because we are no longer a group of architects. 71 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:51.680 Also some designers have gone over here. We serve the boys of the 72 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:59.639 universities, with social service, for example, courses and so on, because 73 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:03.000 we basically dedicate it to everything that is architecture. You don' t ask 74 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.680 me for a door like a door. That' s a window. So 75 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:11.800 and so I started not so we started because everyone, from themselves, from 76 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.720 hear, arrange me here and then, yes, that is, learning. 77 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.600 It is not clear that there is much in school, yes, there is 78 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.959 teaching, but practice is what we think is most valuable to us. As 79 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:28.759 far as the field of work is concerned, our branch is certainly extremely practical. 80 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.639 I mean, to do it exactly. And so we, because we 81 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:40.639 generate many things, remodelings, new works, we have of reo, we 82 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.519 do structural theme, we do a lot of structural calculation. How well we 83 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:49.879 do effort, scant remodeling, departments. Just last year we made some offices 84 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:56.879 here in Rome, as well as from scratch, from the project to the 85 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:04.439 entire structural executive, is tory and execution of the work ok gardenes kitchens, 86 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:12.439 furniture, smithy, a lot of blacksmithing, or architectural interior project, that 87 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.399 is, the truth is that only complete what yours hears come from everything and 88 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.800 the truth is that it is so. No, I mean, I' 89 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:23.079 m gonna make you honest. In some beginnings they sometimes asked us for things 90 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.439 we didn' t know and I said yes, that' s how we 91 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.279 all are. I mean, I was saying something like that, so we 92 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.040 ' re going to learn, use how we do it, no, and 93 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:33.959 try to go, that' s if it' s reality. I mean, 94 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:38.839 I' m not gonna tell you we' re not great that we 95 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.560 ' re no, no, no, no, we' re not learning 96 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:43.839 and changing, yeah, I don' t understand you perfect. We were 97 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:49.079 recently caught doing a temascal in life. We had made a central theme and 98 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:55.680 how it is projected is a plane. There are plans for the ascal theme. 99 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:01.600 Don' t wait for me, yeah, and they know do it 100 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.519 Oh, yeah, of course, then it' s not like you have 101 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.879 to jump into the arena somehow from the ports. He' s not learning 102 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:13.279 on the road right now. We' re generating an executive project of a 103 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:20.160 rack for is orale. The race is this is being quoted, but it 104 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.519 ' s something we haven' t done. For example, ok is a 105 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.279 blacksmith raght, but they want it well calculated and it' s the books 106 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:30.160 or it asks you for certain rules. Yeah, he' s in a 107 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:31.919 few t' s gonna be in hospitals, and that' s regulation. 108 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.240 The certified oratorios of the lords are certified then they are I say surely they 109 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.879 will not hear it. People who know about it, but we have worked 110 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.440 more on as more personal or with customers, not with many brands. Yes, 111 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:52.960 we have brands as clients, but we do work more personally, ok, 112 00:08:54.799 --> 00:09:03.000 more independent people, families, families, girls family, big families, 113 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:09.159 to you we have passed in it. How nice your best challenges. Yes, 114 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.759 but the recommendation is always. I believe that this is the whole compromise 115 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:22.799 that we can have from the constancy of all the principles that I have learned 116 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:28.080 today thanks to not knowing myself to see another kind of path that I was 117 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:35.320 telling you at the beginning. I have a mentor who used to say hey 118 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.960 to me. The target is not the target. That is you, what 119 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.639 you have to do is observe everything you do to reach the target, because 120 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:50.440 the goal may not be clear what happens. It may be or it may 121 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.799 happen. It may be that we have a building project and it' s 122 00:09:54.840 --> 00:10:01.759 just the word is project. The building is being built and the goal for 123 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.879 me could be to finish the building. But maybe investors don' t smell 124 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:11.279 anymore, maybe not. But what we try not to give up, to 125 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:18.759 just make the commitment is to be every day, to be constant the love 126 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.639 we put to things. So that bastard I see today that' s how 127 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.120 it is to me that' s what facade is. No, of course, 128 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.080 this is the way we' re going. Not maybe his targets. 129 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:35.279 We have not finished seeing for certain circumstances, not for us, or things 130 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.440 that are out of your hands. So it always happens many times. So 131 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.879 that' s what we' re trying to face. Of course he' 132 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.159 s a father. That' s good, because it' s a very 133 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.519 genuine thing. There are not many who say no yes, we get a 134 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.320 project and tell us, but something very genuine? It' s trial and 135 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.440 error or asking for projects and maybe you' re the ones present, but 136 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.480 sometimes it' s not done, that is, it' s a very 137 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.519 genuine thing No, because that' s the reality. Out there, yes, 138 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:07.840 then, one of the principles we have had is precisely perseverance. That 139 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:13.519 is very important because if I start to count the projects that have not given 140 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.440 me, I cannot say no, because I do not follow him better. 141 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:26.200 Let' s do a program is lesial all work another long no, I 142 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.519 mean perish see or be my mission here is that is mine i mean my 143 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.360 actions are the ones I looked for the client. I' m in the 144 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:39.799 works, I mean, I' m in there. In fact, right 145 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.679 now, here in the colony, strong loves, in a house. How 146 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.759 good are we there? Right now, as an office. I did there 147 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.480 we are, we are working there, let' s plant other projects like 148 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.720 sales more, the one that demands the most, then we are there. 149 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.679 But I' m getting out of there the clients, I mean, I 150 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:05.600 ' ve got to be three or four months ahead. Or that there are 151 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:11.919 many issues. Yes, many understand you very much, yes, of course, 152 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.519 yes, we are the same. I mean, we can' t 153 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.759 counter concentrating 100% on the client we have right now, because we have 154 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.440 to see those from the other months, because it' s not the client. 155 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.759 It won' t be forever, you don' t have to go 156 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:28.639 seeing the others that will give you the flow for the next few months. 157 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.639 I mean, it has to be that way, of course, and exactly. 158 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.120 But yes, a dream, a longing is that something has already been 159 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:43.480 here about whether it is still that part being much more solid, that is, 160 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.559 before the pandemic it already had. We already have large offices, we 161 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:54.240 have four and with five architect works and then we have a lot of work 162 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.240 and, well, the pandemic. Not everyone, not everyone, it totally 163 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:01.120 happened to us. No. Then I could have said there. You know 164 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.240 not anymore. Yeah, I mean, I give up again. Yeah, 165 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.679 no, yeah, it' s very valid. I thought about it and 166 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:13.279 it happened and I said it, I mean, follow it and look and 167 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.200 look and look for it. So this thanks to the Universe, to God, 168 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:24.480 to whoever it is comes, has always arrived, I have always arrived 169 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.759 work like this, that' s good. I always work, there has 170 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.120 always been to have the same, to have that a chavos in the service, 171 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.440 to companions, to collaborators. How good then I hear our goal before, 172 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.080 such that all being very sincere, with the other driving was yes, 173 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:43.519 money, that is, money was neither my goal. Same in life in 174 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:48.519 many things, but today. Oy, today is today, it is added, 175 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:54.120 Today is a means of these principles that today we try to integrate our 176 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:58.080 ay which father I like very much and good that you are very genuine in 177 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.480 that I give many tastes hear. And how you got into architecture, because 178 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.799 you' re the chicken. Yeah, I' m a politeria, ay, 179 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:11.600 forgive me. Forgive the truth, please, how you go or technical, 180 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:15.879 how you went into it. My sister that quiitenta, ok she works 181 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:22.360 the winter and she takes me nine years, nine years, Oko, I 182 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:31.159 was already studying and I was going to use you, prepare prepaja and this 183 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:37.559 and see how she draws very well, very good cartoonist. He learned from 184 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.600 those accredited to talk about him. We have one in common. He learned 185 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:45.840 from him. It draws very well. I go to his drawings, his 186 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:50.360 blueprints, he was in his distillers. And that started as calling it ok 187 00:14:50.759 --> 00:15:00.919 to call it theme. I' ve already entered the polytechnic, I' 188 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.159 ve done or my prepa in occasional eleven where it' s not that it 189 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:07.639 was technical options and that' s where I started to see the plans. 190 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:13.679 But it was also very casual on that one day, in that technical career. 191 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:20.320 Then my sister inspired me and then I got in there or the technical 192 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.759 career. And from there, because I already had decided very well what was 193 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.720 going to be there in the top of the architecture. Ah very much in 194 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:33.840 what father? And there and then came a lot of engineering that' s 195 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:35.519 why I' ve had a lot of cultural calculations. Also a lie in 196 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:43.080 that is father, because we don' t like it too. But I 197 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:50.000 began to see architecture differently when I started teaching. Okay, I don' 198 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:56.320 t know if you can sort of, uh, vaguely there. Well, 199 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.480 I got to work there to teach at the architect. It' s the 200 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:06.480 smoker. Ay we send a greeting to Sergio Ahá, in fact, made 201 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:12.840 right now and then I saw another kind of bouquet, so to speak, 202 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:19.279 something else in architecture, that is more humanistic. The color is light, 203 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:23.679 I mean pain, the Polly. For me it' s in my house, 204 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:30.279 not sure, but seeing this kind of humanities I didn' t see 205 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.919 anyone and I don' t know why it was me for school. But, 206 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:41.879 well, I didn' t have this kind of wave of design expression 207 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.000 concepts and I didn' t know them. Sure. In fact, I 208 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:49.399 was generating my social service in a company of structure and smithy, that is, 209 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:55.519 of pure engineering. Okay, and every once in a while, we 210 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:56.840 were making a little egg and they were asking me for things, but no. 211 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:06.000 When I went into that school, he started to know the design part 212 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:11.640 and that' s where I don' t know. Yeah, I mash 213 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.799 all this up for you, okay in sketches or perspectives, or all that 214 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:21.480 started calling me, but I don' t know if it happened to you. 215 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:23.440 But it' s like from the inside you know as if, like 216 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.079 he calls you and I said this is my thing, uh- huh Like 217 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.119 you find out. Suddenly, you don' t enjoy it much. Yeah, 218 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:30.839 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I' ve had my best. 219 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:36.000 Then, Father. There it was, as well, I fell into 220 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:42.079 these, in these social networks on the dark side, hear what father or 221 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.880 father and how good that you, because it is Sergio, a great professor 222 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.759 that I remember very much in the University, that nothing more a greeting. 223 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.759 This one, for they have led you to this. No, and you 224 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.079 ' re not teaching anymore. No, not anymore, right now, there 225 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.920 ' s already been a year or so that I don' t understand anymore. 226 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.799 I also got caught up in the activities. Yes, yes, yes, 227 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.920 of course, then this is the light. I' d like you 228 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:17.559 to know which one of my friends is, and it' s like being 229 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:25.279 already old- fashioned, grumpy little clard is that that' s where I 230 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:26.359 ' d like to end up teaching. So he' s really cute eating, 231 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.119 that is, more than class. It' s a lot to share. 232 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.519 Yeah, is that a lot to share? The truth is that I 233 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:38.319 never imagined that I would also teach at some point, and the truth is 234 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:45.519 that I do enjoy it very much. It' s a lot to teach, 235 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:51.279 to lead your way, not to keep it, and to be able 236 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:55.079 to share it with the new generations who are now incredibly alive with all the 237 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.359 technology they already have at hand, and to learn exactly, you also learn 238 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:00.720 a lot from them, not yes, yes, and the truth is. 239 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.480 Now I do understand that part that didn' t understand you anymore but me, 240 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.519 that' s why I was stuck there. Yeah, yeah, sure, 241 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.880 I mean, something came up in me that I don' t, 242 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:17.799 this part of the Internet that you can' t do the generous part of 243 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:26.680 me is it' s da is, I mean, what I have I 244 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.440 can give it without waiting for happiness change, good class check. I don 245 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:33.599 ' t mean, I swear to you, I didn' t realize when 246 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.880 I was depositing in the last few years, when I mean. The truth 247 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.960 is, if it wasn' t me, it was me We took advantage 248 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:48.480 of it I was yes, I was talking about selfishness and learning as much 249 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.279 as father. I' m very happy about it and the master' s 250 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.240 degree isn' t, but it is. I like it very much, 251 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.359 how good not and aside, you enjoyed teaching. The truth because you do 252 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:06.599 say you feel when a teacher is imparting his patience to you, you know 253 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.400 you feel because then you already feel those who don' t and nothing else 254 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:15.720 present themselves and give the class to give it and not when they are really 255 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.000 sharing something that they do know, that they do specialize and that you like. 256 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.720 I mean, they' re looking for you to learn the same way 257 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:23.480 as the one who' s teaching you. You don' t feel that, 258 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:30.400 and I felt that with you It' s really weird, because in 259 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:34.000 every house it' s that good. That' s good to say marks 260 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.799 here, of course, of course. So I used to teach compu lessons 261 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:44.480 at the beginning, that is, then. But then I got more into 262 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.319 it and suddenly I waved a client who would brew from a bar a little 263 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:55.839 bit. So I was supporting, doing some breweries. In fact, right 264 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:57.720 now he' s still, I mean, one of the clients still ay 265 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:03.400 what father, what comes, tes structures and various things. And they put 266 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.519 me in the restaurants, I mean, I started to see what' s 267 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:12.039 up with the restaurants. So in what semester out of that career such restaurants 268 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:18.200 and I asked you then I went like to the wall, very well, 269 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:26.599 I went like in the play and with this client and went like marching munching 270 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.000 tied. He' s a father. And the human part, of the 271 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:33.559 design part, the part of the concept that I had learning there in Nite 272 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:40.599 was that I stained it with the work. There' s no father, 273 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:42.000 because you learn. I think it' s more enriching. Not like that, 274 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:48.799 then I started generating that with the kids and they took me to the 275 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:53.079 brewery and I didn' t take myself to the wax. We' re 276 00:21:53.720 --> 00:22:00.559 here You' re trying to do more. Sure time or there was the 277 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.720 ogre. I' m not worth this polar. There is a father, 278 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.240 who comes, because that is what university students need, that is, university 279 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.640 architects or designers who are taken to the works. I' m very supportive 280 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:14.839 of that. I ask you for twenty years of experience. Yeah, everybody, 281 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.279 she went out 18 and she was 1 0 years old Well, she 282 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.839 gave me a girl and she' s gonna come in. What a father 283 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.920 I sent him a rajis plan right now, but by the way, because 284 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:32.680 he has to learn aha somehow. What a father I really like about that. 285 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:36.519 And yes, I mean, I can say and to the notary public 286 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.599 that he was very good teacher he hears and what encouraged you to do the 287 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:42.680 same thing, that is from the first time, that is, what he 288 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:47.039 told you I don' t want to work in office. I want to 289 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.359 get into it by myself. Well, I don' t know at the 290 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:55.680 time I already had partners, but I' m already doing the same thing 291 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.960 how slow a lot of things, that is, so much internal, I 292 00:22:59.960 --> 00:22:59.960 don' t know, I' m very anxious I' m people. 293 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:06.880 I can' t sit. I mean, I put myself in an office 294 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.960 in four pairs a few years old. When I did my social service, 295 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.559 they hire me and I stay to work. There' s, like, 296 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:22.599 four years. You aha then is that I tell you my goal before is 297 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:29.240 that it is very different from my being family money. Then I focused there. 298 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.880 But I wasn' t making you happy. I mean, the reality 299 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.039 is, I don' t know if it' s past, but you 300 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:41.759 ' re on the face or you' re with someone and there' s 301 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.920 something that tells you that it' s not, I mean, it' 302 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:45.039 s not filling you, it' s not going to, it' s 303 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.440 going to come out for more than no. And all of a sudden he 304 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:51.799 sent me a play and there he went and I liked to be in a 305 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:53.480 lot of play and solve and everything. But as time went by, I 306 00:23:53.519 --> 00:24:00.000 realized not the Javiers. At the time he was my partner, my society. 307 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:04.119 This one tells me he hears why you don' t put something. 308 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.559 You' re very good. I also have one called Raúl, who had 309 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:14.279 a company in front of the conceptual and raul stage. He put the same 310 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.759 surprise and he motivated me a lot he what happens he, right now, 311 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:19.519 is going very well today, that is, it comes very well. So 312 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:25.440 he put his company just as low and then he would tell me to watch 313 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:26.680 if you throw yourself and I don' t know what. Then, but 314 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.960 there came a point where he' s already bursting. B already burst into 315 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.000 a place like Robot. Yeah, you' re doing exactly. It has 316 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.759 nothing to do with the company, it would have to do with me. 317 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:41.200 Aha then I can take a step from the void of faith to faith. 318 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.599 Yeah, it makes a black ravine that you don' t know how deep 319 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:52.680 it is and say already with my liquidation at that time. So, after 320 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.440 we started with his tualica and it was so good, so, then there 321 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:03.200 were seasons. It wasn' t too complicated for them. We had little 322 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.079 omara or we have nothing clear. Of course, then, yes, the 323 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.920 economic issue, because it is a necessity, is a means, of course. 324 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.960 But what I tell you they persevere. He went there, I mean, 325 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:21.440 I don' t want something of my own. Also good, very 326 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.200 good, something that was created. Yeah, you think so, I' 327 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:30.319 m not here right now, I' m not hearing hours at 9: 328 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.680 00. No, I mean I can' t, I mean the most 329 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:38.480 valuable thing I have today on my mark of what I do, regardless of 330 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.559 freedom. Yeah, of course it' s the freedom of your time, 331 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.599 in my time. I mean it' s no longer worth it or it 332 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:56.319 ' s more really what' s best if I do a lot of doing, 333 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:03.119 I saw a conversation where they were just talking about the schedule jobs and 334 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:04.640 all that and humanly we do about this schedule is to exercise. This schedule, 335 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.920 it' s to eat this schedule is to work this and we divide 336 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.480 it all into schedules and if we don' t do it, we do 337 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:21.400 it either way, you feel like you don' t deserve to have a 338 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.480 break, you know, but really if you see it as it is, 339 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.880 we only have time. When you do, it' s up to you, 340 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.359 but it' s only time. If you want more time for yourself 341 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.200 less time to work, it' s up to you. It' s 342 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.000 okay, but it' s time. And having that freedom to handle your 343 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.160 convenience, your time, is the best that a human can be, the 344 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.680 truth. Being very honest about that, right now you mentioned it, I 345 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.359 said yes, it is. Yes, it' s very valid of the 346 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.480 most important things to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the money. 347 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.799 I' m more interested in time and suddenly, the name of others. 348 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:04.519 So, I' m going to blah blah and suddenly I' m going 349 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:10.599 to gymnasium or I' m going to see dads or I' m going 350 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:10.920 around for a few nights, I' m going to my spiritual work and 351 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:11.680 I' m ready. I mean, that' s what he gets. 352 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:17.000 It' s a lot. That' s what' s dying of you, 353 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.880 of course, because I have I swear I couldn' t be this. 354 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:26.200 There' s no o or in a work of certain times, i 355 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.480 e, all day and no, i mean, I have to be in 356 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:34.720 this river down, looking for customers or throwing flyers. I' m moving 357 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.559 on to the works. Then I go gey Güey in my car, suddenly 358 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.440 a play stops I give a card doing like this. That' s good. 359 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.319 This neck is purposeful, yes, yes, yes, if not, 360 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:51.319 I feel waiting for the universe God sends me badly. He' s a 361 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:56.359 client. No, no, no, no, no, it' s 362 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:02.880 about making it happen, obviously, because I' m also not very clear 363 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:08.200 about it. We' ve had mistakes, we' ve also had complicated 364 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:15.519 works like everyone else. And but good is that the percentage of you recommending 365 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.160 us, because I was more on this side of the things that end. 366 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.319 Well, we do well, I like it well, how cute, what 367 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.440 a father hears, what your office is doing, Ahorita, because I see 368 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.559 you in the works and I see you in the works. Yeah, I 369 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.720 ' m coming right now, having this my partner come in sick, ah 370 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:41.240 ok, but well, we have in the Wiene Harroll Greetings. We' 371 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:48.599 re in a house, in a house on Portals. I' m going 372 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:56.759 to reinforce a building to the tano for Aragon, okay. I' m 373 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:04.680 strengthening a building in Naples. We' re in a malan, an apartment 374 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.799 in San Pedro, in the Pines. What a father we' re going 375 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:17.559 into a whole modeling house. This huge is a five hundred meters in aka 376 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.960 colesteraste ok we have not seven selections sorry, but out there, it' 377 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:27.599 s over there. We' re doing structural project Right now to make a 378 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:33.359 neighborhood series raise some of those boques too that they have a little bit to 379 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:38.079 ok We' re doing their structural project for a house room that we' 380 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:44.519 re going to start from first production and the twenty we' re going in 381 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:51.839 from now we' re going to put in Hebrew, we' re going 382 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.480 to reinforce or do a lot of things ok right now in a lot of 383 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:56.640 structural project and everything that I tell you last week, because we' re 384 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:57.000 a cancel of a client, so we get cancers for their game. Of 385 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:02.759 course we do, yes, then we have very good suppliers. Oh, 386 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:08.039 we' re making a glowack rookhwar right now that you call me good sentin 387 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:14.000 I don' t know what sloppy hooves. It' s not chido, 388 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:15.119 but yes, yes, it' s very cha. Yeah, that' 389 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.640 s good. I' m so glad what a father, it' s 390 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:19.039 so good that you have so much work. I remember you were also doing 391 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.000 things for Cinépolis, as well as a thousand x Yes, we started going 392 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.960 honceptual and we grew this, but well not the first ones, but they 393 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:34.960 were initial generations of automatic lockers. Uh- huh That' s how we 394 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.200 did it, sweets, big clients is. That we worked all last year, 395 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.559 two years ago a net group made them all structural. We were also 396 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:52.119 going to dictate their properties. Ok with the fox, also working with Nike. 397 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:59.119 Here our biggest customers To them we are not direct, but we are 398 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.799 only, i e the same you. It is also structural chapters. We 399 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.880 did the Mike Woman House Terrace here in here or the law hour they come. 400 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:11.880 This I mean group four that is sure, it would be neighborhood. 401 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.359 They, too, with St Paul' s never, also speak a lot 402 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.079 of structure. Hey, he' s not too moved. Chiquisis then there 403 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.000 are seasons. Sometimes there are customers like this so you can call us sometimes 404 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.880 from here months ago, but there they release us a year and so and 405 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.599 so you alone and the others how well or they are Boris to be left 406 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:41.799 for Liverpool in those tremendous moments that well, hey, it is very cool 407 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.680 and that is, They are very good precites, things, very well, 408 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:52.680 of course, but that is father. You open up both your possibilities of 409 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.400 work and your knowledge, you open up so much the gap that things come 410 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.319 out of everything and what you have right now, and that' s so 411 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:04.000 lame, that you lend yourself for everything even to put a cancel. I 412 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:05.960 ' m not going to refuse that and yes, that' s the way 413 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:12.160 it must be. No I' m not that how cool or cool, 414 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.519 super cool hears, how is your design process that from when a project comes 415 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.000 to you until it ends as it is that project development, well, your 416 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.559 process depends a lot on the client, of course, it depends on what 417 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:31.720 I want within this stage where I met the design, uncle that I started 418 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:38.160 to get more into the human part, more send in all this wave. 419 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:45.319 So, what blows me up is going to my respirator, but and drawing 420 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:53.640 by hand. No yes, for example, the house. Let' s 421 00:32:53.640 --> 00:33:00.240 remove it, that is, put your hand, start painting it, start 422 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:06.200 generating ideas, from values, expressions, because that' s the concept. 423 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.079 The concept for us is since I learned it with moral praise. It' 424 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.559 s not an expression of feelings, of emotions, if it' s something 425 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.640 that obviously doesn' t ask the client, look at what style you like, 426 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.200 how it goes. No. So they give us the parts, for 427 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:31.599 telling you about five words, but the main ones. And from there we 428 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:39.839 begin to develop concept in colors, lighting, real estate, so that you 429 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:46.119 can give this concept in what they seek. Sure and so that' s 430 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:51.240 the part as more than I call myself I' m very much with a 431 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:55.240 cigarette, with nice music and there a coffee and I' m there and 432 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:59.880 this is what music you listen to right now is my time. He' 433 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:01.839 s a father. For me it' s this father. What kind of 434 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.640 music you listen to when you' re in that process. Yes, I 435 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:10.960 swear to you, the Beatles don' t yes, they don' t 436 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:16.440 lack, they don' t lack the interpul beils Who knows why that much 437 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.280 yes the music that or which father. That' s your moment. That 438 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.280 ' s just what I like to share with this question, because, for 439 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.519 example,Álvaro Ocisa, before starting a project, puts his whole team to 440 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.320 listen to the butles and then it' s like seeing what he' s 441 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.119 going to be father. That' s part of the process to have your 442 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.480 moment of music, cigarette and you' re going to break up the project 443 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.320 until you get an unclear idea. He' s a father. Yeah, 444 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:47.639 obviously, you' re in the business of design furniture, houses, department 445 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:52.239 office sounds. So, when we have a structural project, because it is 446 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.280 a mechanic, is this yes? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? 447 00:34:54.559 --> 00:35:00.239 Yeah? Yeah? Yes, design is general, all the more plans we 448 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:07.000 have firmness. We have little responsibility for structural facilities, all- licence gesturing. 449 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:13.880 So he pretty much drives what is more engineering. Ok there' s 450 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.280 father, yes, that' s already as more, as you say, 451 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.440 more mechanic, because already then in a house, in an apartment, some 452 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.280 cinas or something that has to do more condinutos aha ha. The process is 453 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.199 much more different and I say there we go more humane, there we go 454 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:36.079 more to what I am working with, but even to be generous in the 455 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.199 project, that nothing more with the subject of projects, but with the people, 456 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:46.280 with the companions. All this trying to impregnate what I am learning today 457 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:52.480 is very good. That' s good, I' m very happy to 458 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:53.920 hear and right now, what the project would be. Yeah, that you 459 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:55.920 ' d like me to come to your office. What do you say, 460 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.880 this is the crown jewel and I would very much like it to come to 461 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.280 my office. What your ideal project would be. It would be a commercial 462 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:16.760 square, a museum, a museum, a building of lack of distal ah 463 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.199 yes, yes, yes, but I mean to do it from scratch? 464 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.800 Okay, so I know the whole project, ringitive projects, you were so 465 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.719 cultured lifting steel out of the fence. It' s what I don' 466 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.320 t touch anymore. We don' t go a few stairs there for a 467 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.800 little bit aha me of nin in the village aha of snail with metals. 468 00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:43.440 Oh, that' s nice, that' s nice, and that' 469 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.199 s what they' re not. Call then that kind of projects you create 470 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.679 is. For me it would be a very scratchy game, so it' 471 00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:57.519 s a museum very strong, something very went Sounds good, sounds great. 472 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.079 That hears what your five architects are that most appeal to your favorites, the 473 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:08.639 Mexican favorites, all of them. I am very, very, very contemporary, 474 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:15.679 very national. You say yes you like this Barragán and you remember I 475 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:21.079 took them to the house. Yes, there, either, it just went 476 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:25.559 with Sergio and the color the light oh yes. Not all this to me, 477 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.480 of which is my favorite, but of ok the number one, number 478 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:36.239 ok if I don' t try to copy his style, but I rely 479 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:40.719 a lot on all that he does is the depth that has light and color. 480 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.559 All that to me I get, cho, understand a lot, I 481 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:52.559 get a lot in all the ales of Leon with the victory I tell you 482 00:37:52.679 --> 00:38:00.719 everything I' ve been jitando s more that it' s barragan there I 483 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:07.679 said barragar yes, this what else, since I smoke from outside poster saja, 484 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:15.480 where are all those who follow much other net, the gorrita, the 485 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.880 dad Güey, the son to dad Let' s win the whole lot, 486 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.320 that is, all that stage of that Mexican protection. He called me I 487 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:30.719 would have wanted to be in that back then doing you know and apart. 488 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.800 If I am, I mean, music from the' 70s, why I 489 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.960 wasn' t young it made me feel like that Sometimes I feel, I 490 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:44.880 mean, I really like everything in the back, nothing happens to me. 491 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.239 All that, yes, it happens to me for my oret, but it 492 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.119 ronde that, that is, all that architecture for me, because it is 493 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.079 very human. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, functional, 494 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.679 already thinking about who' s gonna use it. It does benefit everything, 495 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.199 but it means. That' s what he calls me. No, I 496 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.800 mean, I' m already friar gary with these things. It' s 497 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:19.000 father, I like you, but you don' t see yourself or doing 498 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:28.639 the ok so I' m a translator there seen very holy colors, so 499 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:30.800 that' s what I call myself rather very well. It' s this 500 00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:35.039 dad Hey, it' s amazing. Being able to see you grow, 501 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:42.199 I mean, for eight years I' ve been interviewing you here to see 502 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.559 that evolution is amazing. Really. I' m glad you' re moving 503 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.360 forward. Some things happened, other things, no, but you keep moving 504 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.440 forward. You haven' t stood still and I' m very happy about 505 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.440 that. And so that you continue in the architecture and that I keep calling 506 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.519 you, because to continue in this field, not that sometimes it is very 507 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:05.159 difficult, sometimes not so much, but that good I am very happy for 508 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.679 that to have you again here and obviously, to update that podcast, because 509 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.440 it was already worthy of that, that is, it was yes or yes, 510 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.039 and when I saw that you were in work and I said I have 511 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.480 to call it because already I have to remaster that interview, because besides time 512 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:22.440 you are alone that is okay? Sure, yes or your partners yes, 513 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.760 I mean I just can' t anymore, obviously you don' t have 514 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.920 a team, but the leader is you, not having a good time? 515 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.800 All right, that' s good. Listen now to finish this big interview, 516 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:39.639 second interview with you that I hope will no longer be the last one 517 00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:46.039 and have to spend eight years, please, like the Olympics, we owe 518 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.280 in every four years. No, no, no, no, please, 519 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.559 so that you keep telling me about your projects, because aside, you do 520 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.679 a lot of things and everything, so that you keep telling me, so 521 00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.960 that you keep updating this to me and not that it takes eight years. 522 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:04.800 Please, I' d like you to say something to the offices in the 523 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.559 end. Well, architects who are about to open their own office or who 524 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.719 are already starting their own office. What would you tell them they' re 525 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.199 making the same jump you made a few years ago? What would you tell 526 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:28.519 them that fear is the main barrier. That' s one of the main 527 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:37.400 relationships well that can make a leap into faith. I' ve heard that 528 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:43.079 faith is your leap to the dark black precipice. You don' t know 529 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.079 what' s gonna happen. You don' t know Hey, right now, 530 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:51.159 we' re counting. I' m still more than ten years old. 531 00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.840 It' s a quality book of reasons that' s good. The 532 00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.880 reality is that yes and a lot were very afraid. That' s not 533 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:07.039 gonna be it. There won' t be. I don' t think 534 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.119 I knew it now, but for me to give that exact one I heard 535 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.039 something going on inside me. So there' s something called clear intuition and 536 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.880 it tells you there' s a part that says no, you' re 537 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:23.519 going to be able to the part that tells you then, are you going 538 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:30.440 then? As we gave that more courage, I mean, I' d 539 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:36.199 tell them they' re not alone, that would tell them it' s 540 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.840 not just against the world. There' s a lot out there, you 541 00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:49.199 have to attack and you have to live and try, there' s a 542 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.400 mistake in falling singing and they raise, that is, perseverance, a lot 543 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:57.559 of perseverance, that is, that' s what I could tell them to 544 00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.480 keep looking at their heart, their spirit, their soul, that' s 545 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.519 it. That' s the biggest engine, not the money, I don 546 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.079 ' t know the famous one, not any of it. The interior, 547 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:13.000 the free, the freedom can be clear to them. That' s what 548 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.039 I could tell you. All right, Juan Carlos Mil, thank you for 549 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:20.239 being here. Really. I hope it won' t be eight years before 550 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.800 you come back to be no Okllati, it' s good to have you. 551 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.000 Thank you very much for your time and, please, not a year. 552 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:30.239 It' s gonna happen, you' re gonna see, see, 553 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.000 see if it' s true, with you sorry. Thank you so much 554 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.039 for being here, thanks to the audience. I invite you to listen to 555 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:43.119 the other podcasts that are already on music streams on everyone can find us in 556 00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:49.519 Spotify, Amazon, Deezer, Apple Podcast, whatever you finish podcast. There 557 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.000 we are, so there isn' t, but that' s worth saying. 558 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.559 Oh don' t find them us and there we are. And so, 559 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.480 come for a spin for work or we' re doing the new season. 560 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.039 Here in St Louis, Potosí one hundred and three, here in the 561 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.639 Colonia Roma. Come for a ride because there is a high- design mobile 562 00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.079 and, well, we' ll listen to each other next in the next 563 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.719 episode of radio and abused because the new programs are coming. Take good care 564 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:14.000 of yourselves bye bye