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This is a downbeat on ninety seven
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There's some more maps ticket giveaways a
little bit later in the week.

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So a little a little tip.
It's not hardcore breaking news. It's just

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a little something pumped up. So
you know how we're about to enter the

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winter's cold that spring wheel race,
okay, and we're on our own grid.

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So there's a plan, according to
the Dallas Wanting News, a plan

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to link orcott the grid to the
southeastern US states. It is a private

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company that's been hired to create the
Southern Spirit Transmission, which would be a

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four hundred line from the Texas Louisiana
border through Louisiana and Mississippi that would essentially

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not make Texas just be the Texas
grid. So this is gonna slow our

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secession. I know, right,
I'm pissed. What is this liberal agenda?

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Mike, he really wants to secede
from the union. I do from

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the best vocal member of media.
Yeah, we got touchdown Teddy on the

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case. What do we need to
worry about? Power for boy? He

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you know what, he took it
in the shorts. Remember he had a

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He was at the Longhorns game the
other night and he got as he does

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every time. Yeah, he gets
blamed for he goes to a game and

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his team loses. Someone posts a
picture of him wearing their gears. Yeah

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to Astros a lot. I don't
know if it was on this I think

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it was our station. Sometime they
had his record of games that he's attended

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and he had to respond to with
like I remember the Astros victory and this

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he listed a bunch of wins he
was at. Yeah, just got to

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get the record straight. Yeah,
more wins than losses. So yeah,

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touchdown ted Touchdown Teddy, touchdown Teddy. I wonder if he was at the

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Sugar Bowl on Monday night. He
was, That's why was he really?

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Yes, that's why this all came
about. So I have done a bit

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of a This is not a research
project at all. This is something that

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I saw that was happening over the
holidays kept seeing this name and I was

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like, I don't know what this
is. I don't know what this is.

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And then granted, I look my
it sounds weird to say the word

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my fiance and I'm the financier.
The fiance Roxy is thirty. So but

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she's you know, she stays on
the tick and does you know she's more

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hip to things than I am?
And she hips me to things and I'm

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just like, hell yes. And
then I like to imagine when she's listening

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to an eighteen minute version of Number
forty one, that she's like, he

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hips me to things. I like
to imagine that it's not true. I

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like to imagine that joke. For
nine we're broadcasting Kevin Dave Matthews thing he

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just did. So this whole Gypsy
Rose thing is going nuts now. Before

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if you're at the wistling you don't
know what that is, don't don't worry.

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We'll get there. And I'm like, okay. She's like, you've

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never heard of it, and I'm
like, no, you've never heard of

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her. I'm like, no,
I haven't. As you show these things,

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all these night clubs are holding getting
Gypsy for tipsy or getting tipsy for

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gypsy parties, look for toys or
just for fun getting throwed for gypsy rows?

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Like all these theme night how many
other ones clubs are happening? There

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are many more? Any do you
like two more? Do six more?

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Here's Kevin with six more? Okay, he's trying hard. He's like Rose,

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No, he had two? You
had two? He actually had one

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because the second one didn't even work. Tipsy for gypsy is good? What's

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the second one? You did?
It was getting throwed for Gypsy Rose?

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See that doesn't So he had one
and one bar probably did it. Okay,

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you don't worry about it. It
was multiple bars. It was a

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big story. And the people are
like, it's a bit of an internet

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meme that Gypsy Rose is free.
So what do you guys know about Gypsy

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Rose? Blanchard or Blanchard? Do
you want us to play dumb and act

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like we don't know or do you
want me to tell you. I'll play

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dumb because I think you know something, but I would need you to yell

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I five here got you? Okay? I watched the Hulu show I know.

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It's about a kid who's convinced the
kid that she was sick and they

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lied for sympathy and money and then
someone got killed. That's it. But

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start this thing from dead square one, please. Well, she was released

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from prison last Thursday, and that's
why this is in the news. She

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was serving a ten year sentence for
being an accomplice to the murder of her

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mother. Okay, she had served
eight years of that and then was released.

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She's found guilty of helping kill her
abusive mother. Now, this was

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the subject of an HBO documentary in
twenty seventeen and a Hulu series in twenty

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nineteen, a dramatic series. Yeah. Yeah, like six or eight episodes

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or something. Yeah, and that's
what it was called The Act. The

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I think the HBO doc is called
Dead Mommy and Dearest I believe, And

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they're about to have a lifetime series, which you know when I watch that

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or anything. But they're about to
have that in the news, okay over

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the last week because she got released. Yeah. In the Act was four

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years ago, and the mom,
DeeDee Blanchard, was played by Patti Arquette

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Yah Patricia Arcatt who she's really really
good in it. That's her best role

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ever as playing the crazy mom,
and a lot of things. She was

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awesome in uh Escape from Dana Mora
as well. So Gypsy Rose was the

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victim of her mother's diagnosis basically well, it ended up being a diagnosis of

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munchausend by proxy, which is when
you fictitiously impose disorders on another person.

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And usually this happens with children,
and happened very often, but it haves

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so basically the mom she married a
guy super young. He's an Irish feller,

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like eighteen or night eighteen or nineteen. He ended up running off before

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you know, really like he helped
make a Gypsy Rose as the father,

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but he was not around. He
is involved in the documentary I watched,

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so he wasn't involved in her life, but he did have communication with her.

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Gypsy Rose was in a wheelchair,
she had a feeding tube installed,

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was led to believe that she was
paralyzed below the waist. She was not

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paralyzed below the waist. But her
whole upbringing I mean includes her mom lying

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to several different doctors. One she's
got leukemia, one she said that she

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is she's slow, basically basically said
that she suffered from retardation. I mean,

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there's all kinds of things and d
D is the name of the mother.

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D D. Blanchard was by Gypsy's
side almost all of her first twenty

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years of life. So here's the
first clip, and this is Gypsy in

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prison, okay, and she's doing
an interview for this documentary, and she's

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talking about all of the things that
her mother said that she had. Now

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this is at this time, Gypsy
is probably in her mid to late twenties.

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What illnesses did your mom say that
you have? Asthma, epilepsy,

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hearing in teraired vision impaired, was
feeding to paralyzed from the waist down slow

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so retardation and among other things.
I just can't remember them. So ever,

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since she was a kid, that's
all she's known and the mom treated

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and she had been just basically told
you were you know, you're disabled because

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the mom did not want her to
grow up and leave. She didn't want

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to be left alone, right,
that's part of it, I think,

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although we don't I don't know that, And maybe that's covered in that,

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combined with massive amounts of psychosis as
well. Yeah, no, absolutely,

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And that's the HBO documentary lays it
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never got to the point I mean
they they played the fraud angle up really

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well. I mean they were getting
she was getting taken on trips to children's

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hospitals, like here's a hot tub, here's a new car. She might

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have James like four times. Yeah, I got to meet Kevin James four

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times. This is her make a
wish was James? What a great reference.

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So her entire life, she's led
to believe she can't walk, and

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dude, it's crazy. There's an
odd one. There's you know, because

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you're like, mommy, I'm standing
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no, no no. And that's
how it's portrayed in the in the the

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dramatized series. Yeah, yeah,
we'll sit down. You're paralyzed. Yeah,

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And I mean she was bedridden for
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she went to many different doctors,
flied to many different doctors, and then

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you know, so she would every
time. It's not like she had some

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normal life where she was able to
run around all the time, feeding to

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installed in her she was in pain. How does a doctor do that.

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That's where it gets wild. And
they say that her mother was a master

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manipulator. It was her area of
expertise. If she was on the floor

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it would be a manipulation. Okay. Gypsy Rose is told she can't walk,

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but has spent a lot of time
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One thing I'm not super clear about
is that if she was walking home,

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which may have been portraying in that
Hulu series. Ever, No,

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but there's footage of her as a
kid playing outside in the snow and she's

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dragging herself on the ground. But
if you're watching it, you're like,

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well, she's dragging herself on the
ground, but she's also moving your legs.

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And there's a scene where her dad
and her stepmom are going through old

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doctor records with an investigator and they're
showing them and they're showing all the lying

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the mother had done. And there's
one specific record from a neurologist, and

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this is Gypsy was fourteen at the
time, and you're gonna hear this neurologist

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basically had put in his notes that
the mother's a bad life, doesn't have

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a good history, you know,
basically saying, your mother's a liar.

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And this is kind of one thing
that just got swept under the rug that

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if they would have found, maybe
none of this ever happens, but she

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was fourteen at the time. My
mother is not a good historian, which

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is interesting because he puts that in
bold and underlines it. One of the

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things was a big discrepancy was that
for a person that has not walked for

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ninety years, she should have technically
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But she didn't have muscles. Let's
looked quite normal if she was able to

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support her body weight. I remember
her standing. So I had a big

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doubt about the whole thing throw the
beginning. Analyzing all the facts, and

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I'm talking to a previous pediatrician.
There's a strong possibility of Munchausen by proxy,

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with maybe some underlying unknown ideology to
explain her symptoms. So it's right

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there on the doctor's nuts from the
neurologists that they found when they're investigating,

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you know, ten years later,
if the dad was around, I said

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on that HBO doc, the dad
who is not around a lot as a

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you know, this his his uh
now why his new wife, which would

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be Gypsy's stepmom. Boy, she
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I'm like, maybe this isn't your
story. St I'm like, y'all,

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were around, so it's it's interesting
now they're trying to do the right thing

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and find out and try to help
her now and they are involved in her

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life now or but ideally will be
now. But that was very strange.

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Now the neurologist caught it. But
later he said he reported it in his

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notes that they have a system in
place about contacting social services only for when

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the kids neglected. Right, so
she's being overtreated. He just put,

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you know, in his notes what
he saw the mom's battle. Liar,

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she I think she's been walking,
But he said, look, I'm not

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the way the system works. She's
being overtreated. She's not being neglected,

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and they would have they would have
listened to me. I did my job.

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Hopefully that's been redefined since then,
because that is still a form of

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neglect. Yeah, and I mean
this guy I think is just guilty of

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maybe doing his job and not overdoing
his job. On to the next patient.

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Yeah, I put in the notes
it's up to you know. Now

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it gets really complicated, all cut
corners, Mikey, we're humans's right.

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It gets real complicated though, as
Gypsy gets a little older, and also,

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you know, maybe a little bit
of a you know, the internet

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age. I mean there's a lot
of things you can think. So she

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is basically on the Internet at night
when her mom is asleep a lot.

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And like Keaven, she's in the
age range of eighteen to twenty two I'll

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say loosely eighteen plus. As this
is happening now, she's not. She

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doesn't have the brain capacity of an
eighteen year old at that time because her

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life was stunted. And this is
when she first meets a boy online.

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I met Nick through a Christian dating
website. Thought it was cute to check

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him out. Femine wink an me
when that gypsy had no template for romance.

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His background equipped him with a bad
narratives in different ways, so it

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was like two bad narratives collided with
each other. Go to. John also

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has a criminal past. In twenty
thirteen, he was arrested after investigators saying

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he was watching pornography and fondling himself
in a McDonald's restaurant for nine hours,

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police finding a large knife during the
erection. My headphones just fell off because

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I was about to say I but
then I was like nine hour Jesus,

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I mean, dude, three square
meals. I was like, you know,

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following this documentary and I was like, okay, this is a terrible

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story. And then we took her, which she starts beating boys take a

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break in the middle to grab a
mcdeal tea recharge nine hours. It happened

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within nine minutes. I'm going to
bed. Christian dating website is still doing

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it. I'm not going over there. I don't know. Just take take

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go to the windows. Grimace sat
Grimace over there? Amen? What you

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doing? You may have the wrong
pitch your voice for Grimace though, as

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we don't know. Don't add Grimace
to Danny's character lists in development and ambiguous

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and one more time Go to John
also has a criminal past. In twenty

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thirteen, he was arrested after investigators
saying he was watching pornography and fondling himself

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in a McDonald's restaurant for nine hours. Pile he's finding a large knife during

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the arrest. Okay, what fundle
himself for nine hours? Nick? Go

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to John? Is his name?
Nine hours? You should know this.

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Diagnosed with Asberger's and autism. His
parents said that the doctor said he would

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always be in the frame of mind
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okay, and he also claims also
claims they had multiple personalities. This is

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all yeah, right there something in
the nine hours. I'm kind of,

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yeah, another one. I got
to get this other person going and this

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other person so maybe so he was
on medication for multiple personalities. Buckle up

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here. As we go forth with
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at first, it was all lighthearted. You know, if you got married,

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where would you like to have your
honeymoon? You know, where would

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you like to get married? Where
all the places you want to travel?

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Different things like that, normal stuff. And as it progressed, things got

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weird. I started talking about something
called BBSM, and at first I didn't

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know what it was, so I
looked it up. Once I looked up,

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I'm like, I don't want to
do this. And then he kind

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of just toopped me into it,
like they don't fine, you know,

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try this with me, and so
I agree to it. Then his ex

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had bessaged me and she told me, you know, he's a really bad

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guy. He thinks he's a vampire
and he's in all this dominant submissive stob

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And I was thinking, it's just
an ex. You know, she's just

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bad mouthing him. She doesn't know
anything, she's jealous, blah blah blah.

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She's right, I really don't know
what's wrong with him. But I

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mean, it's not like I ever
had a boyfriend before, and she was

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just excited that someone would talk to
her. You know, that's not her

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mother, So sad you said she
is in her twenties when this audio is

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being yes, okay, it doesn't
sound like it sounds like a ten year

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old. Yeah, No, that's
what's crapy about. It needs to be

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repeated for sure. Now time goes
on, she keeps getting more frustrated with

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her brother. She can't get help
from anybody. In fact, there's one

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an anonymous report was sent into the
place that her mother was abusing her.

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The police go over, they see
Gypsy in her bed. Mother's there,

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you know, and Gypsy's bald because
her mother's told her that she has cancer,

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right, so she wore wigs and
all the time. Things like that.

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Her mother has paperwork that easily explains
all the things, because somehow she

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fell through every single crack that the
system had to off. Yeah, to

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the uninformed eye, it looks like
this mother is taking great care of this

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very sick child. So Gypsy gives
up keeps talking to Nick go to John

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online, they haven't met yet,
and through text messages they came up with

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a plan and she's finally had enough
and she's like, I'm ready, let's

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kill her. So D D.
Blanchard was killed in June twenty fifteen.

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Gypsy was in her early twenties at
that time. Nicholas go to John showed

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up at the house. Gypsy opened
the door for him while she was sleeping.

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He walks in stabs her to death
in her sleep. Oh, obvious

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case of premeditated murder. They tried
to make it look like Gypsy's Facebook was

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hacked, so they had posted that
bitch is dead, and then a few

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minutes later there's an on the post
that says Ifing slashed that fat pig and

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raped her sweet innocent daughter. Police
easily tracked the IP to go to John's

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house, which was six hundred miles
away. He had traveled that far to

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go do this and to see her, and that's where they found. Two

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days later, Nick and Gypsy at
Nick's house and it's say in a hotel

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room. The night after the murder, on the way back to his house,

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they'd say a hotel room. And
that's where I made the joke,

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the very sad joke where he's in
bed again. This kid, they're in

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their twenties. He's in bed,
he's not wearing anything. He's got a

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brownie on his chest and he's got
a smile and he gives a piece over

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the camera and she's like, is
my boyfriend now he's eating a brownie and

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later he's gonna eat me? Was
that actually that was said in the video?

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Oh yeah, okay. Gypsy pled
guilty to second degree That was the

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night after the murder. Whenever that
happened in the night Gypsy played guilty of

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the second degree murder was since the
ten years in prison, they had to

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rework it to not be first agree
murder because they're like, look, she

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was abused and she didn't actually do
it. Yeah, she's got to do

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sometime. So she was let out. Know, go to John convicted the

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first degree murder or sentence to life
in prison and that's where he will be.

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Uh. Gypsy got released last week, turns into an internet sensation,

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took selfie of herself. It's going
line people magazines, you know, tweeting

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about it, and people were throwing
out she wants to meet Taylor Swift,

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like that's all, And that's like
how this became a big thing, and

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there a lot of people were having
parties to celebrate that she was released because

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a lot of people thought it was
wrong that she went to prison, but

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she still killed her mother, yes, you know. So it's like,

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I don't know, and she's become
in prison a lot more I think educated

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over time because you had some really
or maybe she's just done a lot of

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interviews, but she's really like pretty
well spoken answers in terms of like asked

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questions like do you think you know
your mom should be dead? And she's

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like, no, absolutely, what
happened should not have happened. But I

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do think her mom, my mom
should have spent time behind bars, Okay,

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And it's like yeah, I can
see that. Yeah, so it's

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a tricky thing of should she be
out. I don't know. I tend

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to feel sorry for her when I
watch all of this. Yeah, I'm

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surprised she did as much time as
she did, if any at all.

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It seems like, yeah, you
definitely can put the but I mean,

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god, his whole mental state was
probably pretty messed up too. It's really

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bad. And you know, they
get him in a couple scenes in this

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HBO documentary, which is from twenty
seventeen, and they're like, okay,

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did you He basically has to tell
the investigators, look, I think necrophilia

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is terrible. Why would you ask
that, you know, like, because

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they're like, we don't know how
crazy he is. Is he gone for

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a long time? Ye in prison, life in prison, life in prison.

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No McDonald's, no more Donalds for
him, but yeah, that's the

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time you want. But yeah,
he can break his record. You know,

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his parents talk. They were like, he's kind, he's kind of

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an outcast. Gypsy was and this
is what's not real clear to me.

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She was sending pictures that the the
BDSM stuff. They weren't They hadn't met,

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you know, they tried to meet
at a movie they went to,

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like a Disney movie. Weirdly,
Gypsy's mom took her to a movie.

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It was like a Cinderella movie or
something, and he showed up and Gypsy

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knew it, but like he couldn't
sit, you know, where they were.

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But Gypsy like went to the bathroom
and they went and had sex for

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the like upon meeting each other,
they went, I'm assuming into the handicauch

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stall. I'm assuming it's just an
assumption, just because there's more room in

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there and rails. It just makes
well. And she's in the wheelchair,

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you know, if she could stand
up. But then, like her mom

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found out that he had gone,
so they had gotten in a big fight

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over that that he was there now, So I don't know how much else

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the mom knew about the romance.
There's a lot of questions you could ask,

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how was she getting wigs and lingerie
Amazon to her house because she was

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doing that and taking pictures and sending
them to him six hundred miles away.

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Incredible. It's the craziest stuff ever. It's so wild. She's married too.

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Didn't she get married while she was
in I got married in prison.

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She's living with him now, the
new husband. Really Yeah, so there's

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another guy who's like Gypsy Rose girls
in prison. I love her And that's

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just like a fan of the story. Oh wait, you don't look like

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that actress. Can't be real?
Okay? Is that fifty four percent of

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hear today? So thank you? Kevin's

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