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What is Krakolac and fellow thermonuclear a
efforts. I am Dana Valley coming at

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you with my certified fans hab you
as co host, mister Grant Hughes.

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This is part three of our four
part every team in the NBA Mailbag.

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We're on to the Western Conference.
We will do the first seven or eight

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teams that'll be going live on Friday, March fifteenth. The other one will

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be going live on Monday. What
is that March eighteenth or whatever. I

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hope you've enjoyed these. These were
a ton of work, but we thoroughly

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enjoyed them. Hopefully we'll pace ourselves
a little bit better than the last one,

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which was, like I tilighted it
up, Grant, it ended up

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being like over three hours worth of
mailbag questions for the East. So we'll

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try and pace ourselves a little bit
better here. First and foremost, though,

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before we get started, how thatck
are you doing? I thank you

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for asking. I'm doing very very
well. I'm excited to get to the

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Western Conference because like, actually,
i'd be curious about how you feel about

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this. I just feel like I
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more. I'm on the West coast, Like I feel more familiar with the

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West because I'm gonna watch every Warriors
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just seeing more West teams. Do
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you're on the East coast or do
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what happens this late into the season
is there are certain teams where they become

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film watches for me where it's like, you know what, like I'm not

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carving out of time, They're playing
a certain team that I think I need

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to see a good team. I'm
not gonna sit down and watch an entire

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Wizard's Pistons game at this point,
like if I want to go back and

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look at the film from a player, that's the cuts you have to make

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this time of year. And so
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competitive teams, like the bloodbath in
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like the top ten teams, they're
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the fucking order is gonna be,
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I feel I don't know if I
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it definitely intrigues me more than the
East where there's still that bloodbath between four

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and eight, because like I can't
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what the Bulls and the Hawks are
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just can't. So yeah, I'm
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a lot of great questions, especially
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a ton of Jazz questions, so
those teams should be fun. To start

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us off, though, we will
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alphabet here right Grant? Well no, but but so far, so good,

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because that is where we should start. Would you like me to read

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it to you? Do you want
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I'll feed you this one and we'll
loop these two together. So Rafael Faliza

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daff asked how good will the map
can the MAVs be without Jason Kidd?

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And then at Lance Underscore nine to
seven, two friends of the podcast,

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Lance robertson, Uh, when does
Dallas hire Mike Budenholtzer. By the way,

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that's the second people just want Budd. Remember we had a question last

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week, when can we get Bud
for JB Bickers? That? Right?

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Yeah? No, I so look
the MAVs. I actually was. It's

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funny I filed the other day coaches
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and Jason Kidd was one that I
nominated. And a lot of it has

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to do with the defense falling apart, and just you know, as an

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example, Luka Doncicch sets a record
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the MAVs win three of those games, so they go three and three with

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this guy just being historically ridiculous on
offense. I had the MAVs. I

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had to update the stat they were
the worst defense in the league. Since

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the All Star Break, they're all
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is not including whatever happens against Golden
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kudos to them, but the defense
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amazing, and you have kid kind
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first year on the job, they
make the conference finals and the defense is

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really good, and then they missed
the playoffs last year, and then this

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year they're you know, hovering around
the play in mess and maybe they get

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up to six, maybe they fall
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like I get it that like kid
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did not leave on great terms in
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know, he tends to sort of
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get worse. I guess I don't
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is all on him and how much
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like you have Luca, you have
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like dependent players surrounding them. It's
probably a lot you know a little from

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call Um abcd on down the line. But like, I guess what I

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would say is it's harder. This
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we don't know ninety five percent,
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We say that all the time.
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of a coach, of every coach
for some reason, right like oh he

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mismanaged his timeout, it's always rotation
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coaches, you flip it and say
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done really well? Like what can
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well, the MAVs are better because
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attack to key employees, or like
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don't know what that thing is.
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be critical of him, but I
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to say, which is like I'm
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would say like he's great at this
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sense? I think? And it's
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some mid season changes in the heart
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for some of the defensive incoherence,
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great defensively for a lot of this
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to be not great defensively this season, And I think with Sam Vessini did

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a breakdown on his podcast recently where
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does seem, specifically since the trade
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and they've struggled, I would argue, and people have watched more MAVs than

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me can tell me I'm wrong.
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that do anything create in the half
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of rotation or force them to change
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diagnose like, well, this is
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do think there's been a lot of
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their primaries when you're looking at Luca
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we received a lot of shit.
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about it and I hammered them twice
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the trade deadline, some of the
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don't know if this falls on him, but like the rotation could look different,

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and I don't know if it's in
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Washington trade doesn't exist, because like
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three, I think he's at thirty
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you need him involved almost in the
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need to use him as a screener
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just near it, that all of
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of the data like might be fine
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but it's well, that's why we
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work. And then all of a
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so now you're just in this spot. I know Derek Lively's kind of hit

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this rookie wall is he banged up
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with an ankle issue. So is
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up this weird front court rotation now
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like heavily uses PJ. Washington.
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where or are these the optimal lineups? How much is that on Jason Kidd?

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Though? Could you get Mike Budenholzer
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better defense if you're looking for someone
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you right now, my Gutenholzer is
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made wholesale changes in Milwaukee, not
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just like disappointed in the playoffs basically, but it was like he had an

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entire offseason to do it, and
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I don't think he's a particularly good
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to connect with certain players or ingratiate
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that's a skill. Yeah, But
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I do wonder how much of a
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of this and I don't think lucas
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the problem there. There's spectacular an
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might be an indictment of Jason Kidd
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to land on it. I don't
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think you put Mike Budenholzer right now, and I'm not saying they should.

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We're in march to fire a coach
now when you have playoff aspirations, Oh

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no, if you gave the fight, it's just if you gave him a

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training camp, maybe they look a
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ceiling? Honestly, you could get
who's the best defensive coach? Like if

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you put Eric Spoelstra in charge of
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into a league average defense. I
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thing. Like it was bizarre earlier
this year when it was like Derek Lively,

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a rookie center, is like the
key to this defense. Like that's

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that's a weird situation. Really good
though he was, but it's like,

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Yeah, Derek Lively has been or
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Let me, I'll just put it
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be a coaching change now. I
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chance. Do you think Jason Kidd
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don't. What would it I'm gonna
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it take for him? They have
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at this point, we're just assuming
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round the playoffs, like they are
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I'm sorry to cop out, but
like the answer, what it would take

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is Luka Dn should saying I want
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same thing in Phoenix, Like Monti
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and Devin Booker wanted Money Williams to
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Luca wants Jason Kidd to stay,
he will stay. Like it's not even

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with new ownership, Like ish,
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with Dallas. I call it there's
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new ownership changes things a lot of
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is the one doing the basketball stuff
purportedly, right, I will say the

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difference there just seems like the Las
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did that as like a bet that
we can turn this into like a tourist.

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what you're saying though, And also
regardless of who's in charge at this point,

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it might just be stale. You
can't you they purposely missed the playoffs

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last season, but the fact that
it was so late in the year and

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they had the ability to miss the
playoffs is not great there, right,

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and that's on the table. Something
went wrong if like that being there as

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an option. All right, Well, I don't know if Mike Bundholzer is

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the answer. Do you think I
think we could agree Bud would be an

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upgrade over Kid. I just I
want to know what people think the ceiling

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of this personnel really is. And
that was my concern when they gave up,

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because at one point it's not like
this anymore. But like, Daniel

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Gafford was their fourth big and you
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him, and I'm looking at it
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then it's like, well, how
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Like right now, he's their third
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deadline, because they pulled back a
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him and Derek Live basically mirroring each
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a little bit more lately, but
like he's among the bigs. He's fourth

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in minutes per game since the traded
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weird in itself, and he has
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has not happened. I didn't think
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a victory lap. I'm just like
it feels. I think the issue is

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more so with the personnel outside of
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their top two players are flawed on
the defensive end, but those two guys

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can carry you towards a super elite
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that, I don't know how to
grade out Jason Kidd, but I do

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think when we're looking at other coaches, like given what JB. Bickerstaff has

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done in Cleveland this year, they
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his lineups, So you could say
I could see him changing in this being

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better. I think it is easier. I'll frame it this way. I

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think it's easier to upgrade from Jason
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other coaches that, like when Warrior
Stands before the current extension, were frustrated

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with him. That would have been
hard to make on that. But like

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Budd, Kenny Atkinson, you go
through some of those names if you like,

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even in this situation, maybe you're
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if it's a first time head coach, although I don't know if you want

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to go that route when Lucas nearing
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I think I think Bud would be an

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have a base defense and drill at
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it because some of those in look
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going on. I think it was
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me. Was like they were playing
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you don't understand, I'll just say
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you can look at that possession be
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understand what they were doing, right. Yeah. Well Tim Cato wrote about

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it too, and like he pointed
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all on Luca, but like he
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like a major tenet of them is
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to put him in a place where
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doesn't have a lot of responsibilities,
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you're constantly trying to like play this
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there and everywhere, to like be
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job is harder just because would you
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even like a Maverick question. It's
harder to hide people on defense now,

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right because offense have become so sophisticated
that it's no longer just you need to

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cover this guy. You need to
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why it becomes so hard to where
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romanticized, and I've said this probably
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he was healthy, but like to
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on them, like that actually matters
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for, even if you're getting hidden. Well, I think too, because

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Luca is the size of a of
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be guarding, like that dangerous big
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you're sticking him on on the on
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means like somebody who's not really I
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if you have Luca, you have
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lineups because you don't really have a
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forces somebody else to go guard a
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it's like why am I guarding like
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six' eight in athletic, Like
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Like but if you like why is
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shouldn't be the guy on Kevin Durant
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a lot of times the answer in
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teams are flawed. But that's a
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minutes on this. You don't need
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That's their next because they're great and
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space NERD thirteen thirteen, who are
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six to eight guys off the bench
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this point it's just solidified as in
whatever order. But like Christian Brown,

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Peyton Watson, and Reggie Jackson round
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gonna go nine, I'm assuming Zeke
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Break with sneak in there, over
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that's just like you know, I
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their rotation. You can say this
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there. We've seen Christian Brown perform
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incredible year, but like if his
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on it, Christian Brown can be
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just the idea that, like I
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is the most important reserve just because
the lifts he has to do as a

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as a point guard. Yeah,
and that's even he has these against the

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heat. He scored like seven straight
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Nuggets when they just flipped their switch
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there's also just something unsettling about being
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year twenty twenty four. That's the
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feel, because like I think Reggie
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guy just because they got to have
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Watson are just not you know,
on all type guys. Really like he's

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super important and like he's got more
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be like just objectively a better player
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I think I think Watson particularly has
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going to be really great. With
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makes me very uncomfortable that Reggie Jackson
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Jackson is someone I mean, I
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but like Reggie Jackson we thought signed
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offseason. From a team perspective,
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I went, but I would.
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the days of him thinking like I'm
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I gotta go somewhere else and cook
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he has remember the Clippers, which
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like moments with the Clippers series where
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Detroit Reggie Jackson. That was the
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minutes that matter, I'll be really
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team is so they can't surprise,
or I don't want to say they can't

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surprise, but they're so set where
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there's gonna be some like switcher ruse
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the playoffs, or the player that's
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dependent, there's already an answer,
and it's Michael Porter Junior. Like we've

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seen it this year where it's like, yeah, you're gonna close with your

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starting five, but if you need
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go with Brown or Watson, it's
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of this team, which is like
we know, like it's set, and

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there's some risks within the top eight
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is so good, Like even if
we're gonna make changes, we know where

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they're coming from. Yeah, quick
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Honey's how Long until Teams Face Guard? Aaron Gordon win Jokic is working the

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post just so he doesn't catch game
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I guess basically, I don't like
if your kid can't do that,

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another set of eyes off Nikole Yokaich
just seems like a very bad idea,

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and that's so, yeah, I
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they have so much other guys who
will comfor from moving in motion that

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if you're you're basically removing a defender
from a play. It's different if you

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want to say, let's face try
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But when you're just trying to stop
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not even trying to deny him the
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trying to deny Yokic from doing whatever. And so the answer could be like,

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should they just face guard Yokic and
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So I don't think I think it's
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you haven't, like I think we've
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I feel like I can't remember which
team did it? Was it in

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Minnesota once? I don't remember which
team it was, But like you might

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as well just try shit, I
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I think Yokic would carve it up. I think I think that would be

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my Yokic would carve it up as
my answer to like any any weird defensive

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tweak you could possibly suggest to me. So that makes that one easy for

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me. We are onto idea.
There's really nothing the Nuggets or just the

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Nuggets. We only have one question
on the Warriors, and it's your show

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now, mister Hughes. So we
have from uh it's at a underscore Aaron

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three the Warriors ideal rotation includes how
many guys in our notes doc for anyone

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who cares, I have one bullet
point it says all you, mister Hughes,

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This is very easy. It's Steph
Clay, Andre Goodala, Kevin Durant,

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David West, Shawan Livingston. Like
I just think, like a problem

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with this team now is you could
talk. I was watching the beginning of

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tonight of Maps Warriors, and I
think Steve Kirk got to ten guys within

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like the first seven minutes, and
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Like he's gonna play you can play
twelve guys, I think. So,

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I like that's one of those things
like oh, if you know the quarterback

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controversy thing, like if you've got
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you don't actually have one like type
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yeah, So I don't know,
like you can't really cut it off

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at eight, right, because if
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you go Clay, whether he's coming
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must Wiggins is a must kamingas and
must Draymond's and must uh GP two I

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think has to play. Pagemski has
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Are you not going to play CP
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how much do you really need him? If Pajemski is going to be like

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they've they've started making tough not tough
cuts, but like, okay, we

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know that Charge and Looney don't need
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Moody always gets xcized, Looney has
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He played early tonight, but like
you know, it's not that long ago

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that, like Lester kenyone is a
converted two week guy was playing significant minutes

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ahead of Moody, of course,
because everybody plays ahead of Moody. What

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do I do? What? What? What do you do? What do

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you mean? What did Moody do
to like just be he? I think

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partly it's the Looney thing where it's
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not gonna pout, So it's like, well then we can bench him.

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But he's just Moody is like Moody's
good at a few things and great at

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basically nothing. So it's kind of
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That's not gonna get Moody on the
floor. Oh we need lockdown perimeter

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defense. That's not getting Moody on
the floor. We need high volume three

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point shooting, not getting Moody on
the floor. Like he's he's he's capable

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of doing a lot of things.
He's just never gonna be the guy you

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pull in. It's like, we
need to fix this deficiency in what we're

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getting. He's the answer because there'll
always be somebody on the roster right now

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that's like better at the thing you
need to add to the rotation than he

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is. So it's just he's always
the odd man out. That's just what

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it is. But like he almost
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He's always he's typically like, oh, he did a couple of good things

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and then like he doesn't play for
a week. Like that's just that's just

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the moody experience. I don't have
a great answer to this question. I

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think there's like a dozen guys they
play. Do you know what to complicates

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it too, is that if part
of shortening rotation is consistency, like we've

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seen regression from pods, is it
a rookie walls he banged up? Like?

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Is it defenses just understand like he's
not a shooter, and they're gonna

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try and force him to create more
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There are two and it might even
this might even be kind. But

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because he hasn't been as available as
he should be. This year, you

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have two constants, it's Draymond Green
and Steph Curry, And so in that

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way, you're very similar to the
Lakers who have Lebron James and Anthony Davis

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and lately D'Angelo Russell. But just
because the talent below Draymond and Steph when

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they hit their peak, that it's
higher than the Lakers supporting cast, but

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the fact that they can't maintain it, and they've been all over the place,

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most of these guys, because like
even Kaminga and there's Pods, and

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there's Clay and Wiggins has been a
roller coaster ride. How do you shorten

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come up with a concrete rotation when
you don't know you can't even It's not

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just oh, they'll go through like
a couple like a short trough here and

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there. No, it's like these
you don't know where you're gonna get from

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anyone other than Stephan Draymond on any
given night. At this point, I

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would I would say that Kaminga has
established like he's playing a lot all the

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time. There's he's not like he's
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Cominga are like before guys, we
are gonna play boatloader minutes right right,

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because even which is which is like
Wiggins is like I think, more important

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to the Warriors than say Pajemski is, but like Wiggins does sometimes just if

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he's doesn't have it, Kerr will
still put him to you know, limit

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those minutes especially sometimes won't close with
him. I think generally speaking, Wiggins

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and Kaminga like, I gotta be
out there just because like you need some

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athleticism if like Draymond and Steph and
Pods is just like that's not you're not

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getting your like length and your defensive
switchability from from those guys. I mean,

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Draymond can do it, but like
so Kaminga and Wiggins, I think

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those five guys were talking about Pods, Wiggins cominga, Steph, Draymond are

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like they're gonna play a ton and
then after that it's like who's got it

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going or like what do we need
nights? And there could be seven guys.

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We even mentioned Trace Jackson Davis who's
playing over Looney like all the time

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now, and Sorch too, so
like he just there's no good answer,

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and that's why the Warriors are just
kind of you know, not a serious

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contender, but not like falling apart
and can look really good and can look

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really bad. They just don't have
a consistent eight nine man rotation. Houston

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Rockets, you're ready. Oh,
I'm ready. This is from Dan Favalley.

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That's weird. Alpert Sangun might be
done for the year, probably,

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it seems like now. Although did
you see that injury? Yeah, I

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was watching live and then I rewatched
it. I was I was convinced.

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I was like, oh, that's
something's broken. Yeah. So I was

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in the building for that. I
didn't tell you this. I went to

402
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:51,839
that game, the King's Rockets game, and I they let you in.

403
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,759
They let you in that building.
I paid for a ticket. I went

404
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:57,640
in there, and so I took
my son. This is he because he

405
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,839
wanted to go to a game.
And this was the only game that started

406
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,519
at not seven pm, which would
get us way past bedtime, so a

407
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:07,440
three pm start. We left a
little early, and as we're walking like

408
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,079
two minutes left, I think it
was about two minutes, we're walking up

409
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,000
to go get it. It was
Slampson. It was our mascot's birthday,

410
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,480
so they had balloon animal stations.
So we had to go get a balloon

411
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:18,920
animal before we left. As we're
walking up the steps to get to the

412
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,599
concourse, we hear oh and it
was a sang Goon play. Because the

413
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,240
whole crowd saw the replay of it, it was like, oh my god,

414
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,599
this guy and sure enough he got
wheelchaired off. When I saw it,

415
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,640
I couldn't see it, like you
know why, I couldn't tell what

416
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,559
was going on. It was at
the other end of the floor. But

417
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:38,640
then seeing the replay, it was
just like, well, this is a

418
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,720
sad day, I thought for sure, but it turns out like severely sprained

419
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,200
ankle is the worst of it,
which is like I didn't even know the

420
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,319
ankle was an issue, just because
I was focusing on his knee going the

421
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,000
wrong way. Anyway, just want
to, you know, just throw that

422
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:56,880
anecdote in there. Anyway, How
does how does his increased usage and growth

423
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,119
impact the rocket trajectory? So let's
talk about some positive Shangoon things. Will

424
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,440
you get a max extension this summer? So that would start him at just

425
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:06,519
under thirty nine million for his first
year, and if you go four years,

426
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:08,039
it's one seventy three point seven five
years, and you get up to

427
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:11,440
two twenty four point nine. So
I guess we'll just talk about Shang Gun

428
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:17,359
what like what does he mean to
how you build this Rockets team? Are

429
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,920
you maxing him immediately? How are
you playing this? I think they've already

430
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,400
well, I guess the idea of
the way they've surrounded him and insulated him

431
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,960
defensively, like you just having Jabari
Smith Junior, there a healthy Taries and

432
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,160
Jayshon Tay, Fred VanVleet, Dylan
Brooks having those like well, Jabari Smith

433
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,240
Junior could play over the place,
like the strong perimeter guys that he's able

434
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,640
to focus on what feels like more
simplified rimp protection and surprise, surprise,

435
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,079
he's improved when you look at where
he's stationed and just his general contest,

436
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,519
he's improved as a rimp protector.
I do think he's good enough offensively to

437
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:51,599
give you that guiding light even if
you still have well, what is Aman

438
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Thompson going to be? Are we
still holding out hope for Jalen Green?

439
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,160
And so it's how can you flesh
out the roster around him to compliment him?

440
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,720
And there are some quiet where it's
will some of these players shoot well

441
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,480
enough long term, but I think
generally when you look at the archetype of

442
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,599
players they have, like the Fred
van Fleet signing in particular, was super

443
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,680
smart. Do I think the Rockets
understood what they have? No hashtag Brook

444
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,880
Lopez pursuit, So I think that
now they might want someone who's better than

445
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,400
Shang Gun, But as of right
now, it's well, how do we

446
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,359
optimize this roster around him? With
all that said, though, I think

447
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,640
I'd be pretty surprised if he got
the five year max. I would expect

448
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,720
him to probably get like the four
year max at this point, and if

449
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,759
if they're not giving him the max, I'm curious as to whether he would

450
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,839
sign, Like is this something that
actually leaks into restricted free agency? Yeah,

451
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:45,400
he's I love his game, Like, I just think he's has the

452
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,240
potential to be such a like,
you know, one of the best offensive

453
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,279
players in the league, like full
stop, and just because of his ability

454
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,960
to score and distribute at that position, I think he gets maxed. I

455
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:02,599
do though, like if I'm I'm
hyper critical of the Kings extending Sabonis on

456
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,680
a MAX and like they're not the
same players, but I think you potentially

457
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:12,279
consign yourself to some of the same
issues where it's like we're gonna have and

458
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,000
look, you said it. The
Rockets have surrounded Shangun with the types of

459
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,960
defenders the Kings never did with Sabonis, so they're like mitigating the issue with

460
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,000
like a you know, not the
most mobile, switchable like rim protecting big.

461
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,920
But like, I do wonder if
you build your team around this guy

462
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,000
and he's not Yokic, which is
to say he's not even bigger, and

463
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,160
just you know, is the best
offensive player in the league, best player

464
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,359
in the league, are you are
you like putting a ceiling on your potential?

465
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,359
Like I don't know, it would
be something I would think about,

466
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,599
but if it was, like if
it's if it's max or I'm wid like

467
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:49,079
I'm just gonna max him because you
don't really you don't really like Jalen Green,

468
00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,359
I don't think is gonna get anywhere
close to the max. So you're

469
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,440
not like looking down the pike at
like, oh shit, we're gonna have

470
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,440
to we can't max this guy because
what's that going to do for our ability

471
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,359
to pay the ex way, So
it's it's it's not a no brainer,

472
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,519
but like, and it's weird to
say this because I do like Shanghun so

473
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,640
much, but like you gotta you
gotta think a little bit about it.

474
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Like if you could do it for
four years, I think it's I think

475
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,359
you do it pretty, you know, without much hesitation. But that fifth

476
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400
year at you know, you're talking
two hundred twenty five million, that's like,

477
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:22,480
I don't know, you gotta really
think he's gonna get even better from

478
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,559
from this level. And I'm just
curious about how the Rockets feel about that,

479
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,119
given what they did over the last
offseason. I will say, I

480
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400
know people like to compare him to
Sibonis and Si Bonus is I would still

481
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,319
say is the better player right now, But I do think long term,

482
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,440
Shanghun I'm just gonna trust defensively more. And maybe I'm just's to say more

483
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,519
about the context of the town around
him than what the Bonus has. And

484
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:48,359
I think his willingness to take more
threes than Sibonus it opens up the floor

485
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,839
in different types of ways. So
I don't think I'd be as hesitant to

486
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,039
give him the four year max.
But I totally I understand what you're saying

487
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,720
there. I'm I'm even curious though, as to whether they view him as

488
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:03,640
their sort of guiding force moving forward
because is it Aman Thompson or do they

489
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,039
think that they're still going to draft
this guy or acquire him via trade or

490
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,960
something. And I would just be
I would love to give Raphael Stone and

491
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,519
the rest of the Rockets front office
just truth serum and know their thoughts about

492
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,759
Alpura and shang Gun. Yeah,
you know, I think the Lopez thing

493
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,759
is great. Like clearly Shangun improved
to a degree that they did not foresee,

494
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,240
So like what where are they on
him? Okay, I still think

495
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,960
by the way that his playmaking can
be branched out because he he the only

496
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,839
he reminds me of Jokic in a
sense where it's just like he can facilitate

497
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,880
and doesn't have the same vision and
his passes are not He's not Yolkic.

498
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,519
I want to make that clear.
I'm not calling him baby Yokic or anything.

499
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,039
Disclaimer is not Jokic, but like
he can set up the offense and

500
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:52,000
by so many different methods, like
like across the entire floor in all these

501
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:55,839
different spots. That's what intrigues the
hell out of me. Even if you

502
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,079
think there's some limitations on his jumper, which they're currently is. But again,

503
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:00,839
he's I think he's taing one hundred
and eleven threes this year, which

504
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,839
I'd probably like to see that number
come up. You certainly want to see

505
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,359
him shot better than thirty percent on
them. But there's there's value in the

506
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,039
volume two where you're going to be
stationed, right, Okay, So defense

507
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,119
is going to be a factor here
if you're building around Shangun. So this

508
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,839
is from Cosmic Raccoon. The Rockets
have been a top five to ten defense

509
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,599
the entire season. They're sixth right
now, and that's been without their two

510
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:26,279
best defenders. I guess that's probably
right. I'm in an Easton getting a

511
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:32,000
ton of playing time. Easton particularly
just lost season essentially, and you're talking

512
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:33,759
about a rookie in the other case. So the question is, can the

513
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,640
Rockets be in the hunt for the
top defense in the league next year with

514
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,400
no other change than a lot more
minutes for their two best defenders. That's

515
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,759
interesting, Yeah, I mean when
you're looking so, I mean, if

516
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,680
Ruego Bear's playing like he is now, you have Minnesota there, Cleveland,

517
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,039
if they don't make any wholesale changes
to their front court, would certainly be

518
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,079
there. I think, what could
so when you look at their personnel,

519
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,599
if tar Eastan's healthy, if I'm
in Thompson is healthy, and then you

520
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,960
figure out, oh he's gonna be
you know, he'll have NBA experience under

521
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,839
his belt. Imagine what it looked
like. Then you still have Dylan Brooks,

522
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,720
you still have fred van Fleet,
maybe Jayshawn Tates there just like all

523
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:12,000
Jabari Smith Junior, all these options. I want to say, yes,

524
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,440
I wonder if and I'm curious that
you feel about this. The thing that

525
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,599
could hold him back from doing that
is there? Eventually, Can they get

526
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:24,079
to a point where they're building elite
level defensive units that give you an above

527
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:29,640
average offense because they don't have that
right now, and some of the lineups

528
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,039
that have fare really well offensively,
and by the way, a lot of

529
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:36,200
their most used lineups have not.
They've typically given like a real trade of

530
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,599
a trade off up on the defensive
end. And so I don't know,

531
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,039
like you need to It's weird because
it's okay, you have the players to

532
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:45,880
be the best defense, but can
these players also get you to a point

533
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,680
where you have one of the lead
even if you don't think that they need

534
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,400
to have a top ten offense and
like that's sort of title contention barometer material.

535
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400
But when you're looking at this team, it's okay, well you have

536
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,920
Alprin Shangun. We just sung this
praise this, should you maxihim? And

537
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,880
yet you're twenty fourth in point score
per possession? Can you get better than

538
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,279
that with this personnel? And I'm
just curious, like who is the key

539
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,359
there? Is it? Still?
We know what Shan Gun is and we

540
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,519
know what Fred van Fleet does.
Is it a'm and Thompson? Is it

541
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,440
Jaellen Green? If they still have
faith him? Or is it they need

542
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,440
to make a wholesale change via trade
or maybe they draft him or as signing

543
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,599
and then that player can't compromise their
defensive value because you're getting into all the

544
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,720
guys that are so important to their
defense. And like I'm and Thompson will

545
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:31,920
be around. I think they would
be foolish. I know he's injury prone,

546
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,079
but Tarr Eastan's a fantastic fit.
Like now you're starting to get in

547
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:37,599
the names. Okay, well then
it's Dyllan Brooks or it's Fred van Fleet.

548
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:42,000
Like minutes are gonna have to come
from somewhere if you're adding offensive talent,

549
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
that's what I think could wind up
pulling them back in the defensive rankings

550
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,960
next year. I think that's right
because if you just try to go through

551
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,680
sorry, if you did this,
like, okay, what does that number

552
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,599
one defensive lineup look like? Like
this semi realistics, Like Shan Gun's gonna

553
00:33:54,599 --> 00:34:00,599
be out there, so there's one
break even at best defender. But then

554
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,759
you go, I guess like Thompson
Brooks, Easton Jabbari, Like that's four

555
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719
really good defenders. I don't know
how that lineup's going to score a time.

556
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,480
And you just took off their best
second best offensive player and Fred Lee

557
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,599
and you like, and Jalen Green's
not out there, and Cam Wentmore's not

558
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:21,559
out there, so like I mean
you, yeah, there are a lot

559
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,880
of teams that probably could like be
a top five, top ten defense.

560
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,400
I don't about best defense in the
league, but they're never going to score

561
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,119
if you just play all their best
defenders. Yeah, the balance is the

562
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,960
key, I think, And that's
maybe that's just getting down to like,

563
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,880
oh, the Rockets actually need like
a two way guy that's better than literally

564
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,039
everyone they currently have. You know, like that's true of a lot of

565
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:43,960
teams, but that's what when you
really parse it out, that's kind of

566
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,840
what this feels like for them.
Yeah, and I'm even so now I'm

567
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,960
looking while you were talking at their
most used lineups and trying to find one

568
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,519
that ranks above average on offense and
defense that would be an offensive rating.

569
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,360
The average right now is one hundred
and sixteen, so above that, and

570
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,039
then it's the same at the other
end, so one sixteen on the defensive

571
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:07,760
end. I'm already through their like
top fifteen lineups and they don't have one.

572
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,519
I found it. So it's played
sixty one possessions, okay, one

573
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:16,400
point three offensive rating to go along
with one hundred defense rating. It's Fred

574
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,480
van Vliet, Jalen Green, Cam
Whitmore, Jabari Smith Junior, now Brin

575
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,440
Shangoun. I'm going to tell you
right now that lineup's not holding up defensively

576
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,480
no long term. If I look, if I started looking into just like

577
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:30,679
the shooting. Look, I'm sure
opponents have just not made a three against

578
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,519
that team low Bowl. They're shooting
twenty four percent from there it is against

579
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:39,000
that oh one more here, credit
to them for building like this defensive I

580
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,280
Udoka is definitely say because the defensive
talent in here is way better than I

581
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,840
would have expected. By the way, for sure, last one on the

582
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,199
rockets here from Rubik scale over under
a number of seasons on and Thompson makes

583
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:58,760
first team All Defense. Whatever we
said for us are like minus one.

584
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,440
Maybe I would say, yeah,
but I don't know. Is a man

585
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:06,239
just gonna be as a as a
Sar's film is like so stupid? Yeah,

586
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,280
and I did break so I looked
this up. His two most frequent

587
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,440
defensive matchups this year have been Kevin
Durant and Devin Booker, and so like

588
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,519
he's played so little did he guard
him both at the same time. So

589
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:23,039
the ro the suns on the eighty
seven plus possessions in which uh like Amen

590
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:27,360
Thompson's guarded log time against one of
those guys, they're aftering point nine to

591
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,039
six points per possession when he's on
one of them. And the two of

592
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:36,360
them have combined to take just sixteen
shots on eighty seven possessions against Amen Thompson.

593
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,199
And we're not talking about he's not
fouling them. They're not drawing fouls

594
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:42,639
on those possessions either. So his
just ability to limit when you go and

595
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,599
watch him, not even just on
bole opportunities, but like to force the

596
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,599
ball out of their hands or maybe
not even get the ball. It's real.

597
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,800
So I'll say, if I said
it, it is three and a

598
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,239
half too low, making all defenses
hard. There's ten spots in his positionless

599
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,000
now, so he's going up against
Biggs. I'm gonna set it at three

600
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:00,800
and a half. I think that's
a great number. I think that's right

601
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,880
about it, I will say.
And I don't want to be this guy.

602
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:08,320
But watching him in person, he's
like he's not screenable, like sorry,

603
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,639
like you can't put a body on
him that he doesn't navigate around or

604
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:15,320
anticipate being there, and just I'm
too fast for you to get a body

605
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:21,000
on me, and like he's both
Thompson's. I haven't seen a sar in

606
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,480
person, but Aman is just like
that guy is like a capital a athlete

607
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:29,079
that like just moves wherever he wants, however he wants. And if you

608
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,320
are trying to get the basketball and
he doesn't want you to possess it,

609
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,719
like good luck, you're just not
gonna see it. He he's also like

610
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,119
because you look at certain highlights or
just plays. Even when shots don't go

611
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:44,159
in or he does something where it
doesn't necessarily translate to an immediately positive he's

612
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:45,719
like caps locked for the first two
or three years of his career. It's

613
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,159
I'll throw every single stat out the
window if it doesn't support what I'm seeing

614
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,199
on the court, because like that's
the type of athlete, right, type

615
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,800
of right. No, I think
that's the right because we get look guilty,

616
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,760
like we get caught up and like, oh, well, this guy's

617
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,559
EPM is whatever, and they're for
he's better than the guy with the lower

618
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,880
one. Like I'm going to default
to that most times, but just like

619
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,280
I don't know, let's not dismiss
the eye test in certain isolated cases.

620
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:14,800
And the Thompson's are definitely eye test. They aced the eye test every time

621
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:20,519
unless they're shooting advance. Shout out
to Mattie L. Braiden, Retro Braden,

622
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,079
and Rubikskal forgiving us. They were
the only team we didn't have questions

623
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,800
for, and so I demanded them
from our discord members and they gave it

624
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,599
to us. So go join our
discord. Look, if you want to

625
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,800
see questions from your team, you
can email us Rbinox going to discord.

626
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,159
I don't know how often we'll run
this exercise, but if I don't have

627
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,440
to work as hard to get questions
for every team, me and Grant can

628
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,400
can do this often. Because they
have to work hard to get the questions

629
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,039
and then you want to think about
them. It just feels unfair to me,

630
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,760
you know. So if we're just
going to come up with like the

631
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,480
same if if we're generating all the
questions, we're just going to regurgitate the

632
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,840
same ideas. We don't have so
many independent thoughts about each team, So

633
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,480
it helps to have a third party
go join our discord and ask questions.

634
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,559
So let's start with retro Braiden and
I have a bunch of looking at the

635
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,639
typo because Bones Highland is in this, and I did this. I was

636
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,280
like inputting it while I was doing
cardio the other day, and I have

637
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,519
bones Hikens. That's not even like
somewhat I figured out on my phone.

638
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:15,280
So retro Braine, any evidence that
a healthy Russell Westbrook should be playing over

639
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Bones Highland. He they asked me
there was a longer spiel. They asked

640
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,679
me to simplify. So that was
the gist of the questions. I'm curious

641
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,480
where you land on this. I
mean, the evidence would be like bones

642
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:31,760
Highland's entire career to this point,
probably like he's what, I don't know,

643
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,920
what do you want? Like Russ
is an imperfect player and neither of

644
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,800
our favorites in terms of what he
brings to a team at like this stage

645
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,079
of his career. But like Russ
is going to give you more rim pressure.

646
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,119
He's gonna be just more physical.
He's like, I don't know,

647
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,599
stronger, He's like way physically stronger, Like if he's getting he could theoretically

648
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:52,280
he's gonna hold up on a post
up on a switch, where Highland is

649
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,280
just going to be like completely invisible
in that situation. Like just if you're

650
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,079
concerned about the scoring, I mean, you got more more granular data than

651
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,119
this. But like Russ is shooting
forty five percent from the field, which

652
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,000
is like not ideal because there aren't
a lot of threes baked into there,

653
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,119
and Higland is thirty seven point four
percent from the field, thirty three percent

654
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,280
from three, Like I don't know, like you're not getting neither of them

655
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,280
is gonna be great shakes on defense. But I would just I would prefer

656
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,559
Russ on that end one and offensively, like Russ is gonna push the odd

657
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,920
transition possession, like down the other
team's throat. He's gonna, you know,

658
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,880
go to the basket hard like Highland
is. You know, he's a

659
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,920
he's just done type that isn't good
enough to be a six man. He

660
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,800
feels a little bit redundant with the
makeup of if he it's like if he

661
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,239
did one thing better, if that
were three point shooter different and not even

662
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,559
that, but like if he got
to the rim more or shot better than

663
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,960
fifty percent at the rim, or
if he stood up physically or even just

664
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,400
functionally on defense better than Russ would, I could because you could just default

665
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,639
too well. Russ is the veteran
and tyler who's gonna like that. But

666
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,599
I really do think that, and
especially since he's been injured, you can

667
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:01,159
kind of see he adds an element
of for it's chaotic, it's anarchic,

668
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,360
and it is counterproductive a lot,
but like you still almost need it for

669
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,159
certain stretches. And then I go
back and it's in theory bones should be

670
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:14,039
the better fit next to Harden where
you don't have to kind of play like

671
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,760
the lineup roulette game as much,
but you're not trying to maximize your offense

672
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,760
when James Harden's necessarily on the court, and like, it's not hard to

673
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,320
stagger Russ and Harden, like we've
seen the Clippers do it. So if

674
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,119
you were, I guess, if
you have the long term vestiture in Bones'

675
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,400
Highlands, you should be giving him
more run even when Russell Westbrook's healthy.

676
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:36,199
I don't know that he's done enough
in the NBA at large. Outside of

677
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,639
those they weren't just flashes and flickers. He had a really good first season

678
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:42,119
in Denver, but the fact that
they were out on him basically even before

679
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,000
the second season started. There were
stuff happening behind the scenes we know about.

680
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,840
But I don't know that he's done
enough on the court for me at

681
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,719
least. You know, you could
look at some of the lineup data and

682
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,280
yeah, there might be offensive numbers
that pop. But I actually went because

683
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,280
I think Brydon had something that said
some of the lineups were really popping,

684
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400
even though they're small samples. I
just didn't see enough of them to be

685
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,400
like, well, we need to
explore this more. No, I don't

686
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,119
think so, and like, look, we need a bench, we need

687
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:06,559
someone to come in and like cook
off the bench. Well you got Norm

688
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:10,840
Powell, who's way up in our
six man you know, awards discussion.

689
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,760
So like, I don't know.
I guess it's interesting to frame it as

690
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,480
Russ or Bones, but like,
I just don't know what Bones brings that

691
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,400
the Clippers a need and be can't
get from some place. Now, if

692
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,679
you had an injury to James Hard
and Paul George or Kawhi Leonard, do

693
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,679
you think that this becomes more of
a question or has become less of a

694
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,239
question, because then you're gonna want
I think Braydon said he believes that they're

695
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,880
about the same as passers. I
still think that Russ is gravity when he

696
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:45,800
goes downhill, like his drives and
his kicks and his deferentials, like when

697
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,079
he defers there, I'm still gonna
give him the edge. But I could

698
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:52,400
see from a theory, if you
lose one of your better perimeter scores,

699
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,159
why you would think that Bones's island
is more valuable to you than a Russell

700
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:59,440
Westbrook, who is very much not
a perimeter score. Yeah, I guess,

701
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:02,320
So we need to move on because
I'm very uncomfortable having to be put

702
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,559
in a position where I'm like advocating
for this current version of Russell Westbrook to

703
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,320
play more. I don't. I
don't feel great about that. Uh the

704
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,159
I think so. The next one
is from Maddy oh reretro brain has a

705
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,480
second part to this. What is
something grant that the Clippers would have to

706
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:22,519
do that you would solidify them as
the favorites to win the whole thing.

707
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:29,400
I mean, like this is it's
it's a it's a bad answer, but

708
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,440
it's like be healthy, like back
spasms that we record this frastics spasms,

709
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,760
No, thank you, not interested
in those. That sounds awful. That's

710
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,559
like your upper back between your shoulders
and can imagine, yeah, forget it.

711
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:45,440
Paul George's got issue, like what
is it a shoulder? I think

712
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,360
or Harden has it? No,
Harden's left shoulder. Paul George's got a

713
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000
knee right now. Like it's all
kind of it's all the Clippers are kind

714
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,119
of clippers ing, like in terms
of man like how durable Kawhi is all

715
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,480
year and look look at these guys. This is all they needed was to

716
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,800
stay on the floor and now they're
kind of like, shit, this is

717
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,119
how it's gonna go, isn't it. Like it's you know, the things

718
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:09,480
we worried about, the caveats we
attached to the Clippers forever, Like here

719
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,880
we are, like there's some of
it starting to go sideways in the way

720
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,559
that people expected or had seen it
go before. So health obviously, like,

721
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,880
yeah, health is the cop out. Every team needs to be healthy,

722
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,519
but the Clippers in particular are the
one that we've always said like,

723
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:27,119
if healthy, maybe they can do
it, and if not, then that's

724
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:29,920
just the status quo. So that's
where it starts. Like we can get

725
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,760
into more and I know you've got
some stuff on transition defense and just defense

726
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,800
in general, but like, yeah, there's live and points a lot of

727
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,719
per possession basically since the beginning of
February. I will say, I think

728
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,599
that's been a troubling trend for them
all year, has been their transition defense

729
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,480
and like they just don't get back
or match up well after their misses.

730
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,880
And then like they made the other
night, by the way, I know

731
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,320
that Kawhi was dealing with the thoracic
spasms and left you went from leading by

732
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,119
twenty two points to losing by what
was it twenty or whatever was like or

733
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:07,199
against. You made the Timberwolves transitioning
offense look thermonuclear af the antithesis of what

734
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,440
the Timberwolves transition offense is because I'm
not even sure it exists on most nights.

735
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,840
So that's something that's like, if
you were to they're healthy, but

736
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,960
this still hasn't looked right. It's
you gotta get because they haven't been hitting

737
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,599
their threes either, but I have
confidence that those will go down when you're

738
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,519
looking at those players, So I'm
more I'm the health. It's not a

739
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,559
cop out. It is the answer, and you can't even trust it because

740
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,119
it's not just Paul George, Kwi
Leonard, and James Harden are playing and

741
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,440
it's they're actually healthy, not Kawhi
is trying to make it through back spasms.

742
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,280
But it's also just like can they
win with look there, their defensive

743
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,280
returns have been weird all season.
We've kind of just trusted that well,

744
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,440
between Zubots and Paul George and Kawhi
Leonard and Terrence Man, like they'll be

745
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,159
able to turn it on when they
need to, and it's kind of like,

746
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,519
well can they So like that's the
question. I still I still sort

747
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:53,199
of have with them. That's it. That's it for me. I agree.

748
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,320
This is from Maddy l which is
interesting and Braiden retro. Braiden also

749
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,280
had some zemblance of the same question. Uh, what's going on with Paul

750
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:06,280
George's lack of an extension? If
he doesn't resign with the Clippers, doesn't

751
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,400
portend anything sinister happening in the offseason. I want to point out before you

752
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,800
get started. I know you know
this because I've seen some misconceptions about he

753
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,440
can only get X because of the
over thirty eight rule. So the loophole

754
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:21,559
is, if you are thirty five
or younger on October first, you can

755
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:24,679
sign a deal that takes you past
your thirty or into and pasture thirty eighth

756
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:29,559
birthday. So the easy answer here
could just be that Paul George wants more

757
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:32,679
years than the three that Kawhi Leonard
got, Like he might want four or

758
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,840
five, and that's why he's waiting. It is does it? It strikes

759
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,480
me as I'm surprised that Kawhi got
his and then Paul George. You know,

760
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,000
I think Brian Windhorse said, like
a deal is getting done you know

761
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,599
they're in talks. It's gonna happen. It hasn't happened yet. I just

762
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:52,559
assumed that, like they would just
sign identical deals. So to me,

763
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:57,920
what it means for Paul George is
that either he wants more years and dollars

764
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,199
than Kawhi got, or the Clippers
don't view Paul George as being worth the

765
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,920
same number of years and dollars as
Kawhi got. I mean those you know,

766
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,679
that's not exclusive, but those seem
like two of the likelier scenarios.

767
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,480
I bet it's that George is saying, like, well, my injury history

768
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:19,639
is not the same as Kauhi's or
his reps are, so you got to

769
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,960
do better than the deal that Kawai
got, which I now I can't remember

770
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,440
what it was, but it's basically
like a two plus one. Is that

771
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:27,960
what it was? I can't remember
how long. I don't even think there's

772
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,599
a player option on it. I
think it's just a straight three. Yeah,

773
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,000
okay, three, So I can
I can imagine George just saying like

774
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,039
I'm gonna need I don't know if
I need the five I need. I

775
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,599
need a longer deal, like I
need a longer max deal. It could

776
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,960
be something that they've already agreed upon
when it's like, well, you're gonna

777
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,559
decline your player option and we're just
gonna give you a longer deal rather than

778
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:50,320
that's taking off of this. Yeah, are you concerned about it? It

779
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,559
seems like he's not gonna go somewhere
else, right, he would have to

780
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:58,519
be wildly unhappy with his place in
the in the offensive pecking order with James

781
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:02,079
Harden and Kawhil And he's talked a
lot about sacrifice this year, but not

782
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:06,960
in a way that makes me think
that he's bitter or resentful and so,

783
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,679
and look where's he going? The
Sixers would be like the only team with

784
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,800
cap space that I've used the threat
he could. He's talented enough where if

785
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,360
he wants to go to the Knicks
that you make the sign and trade happen.

786
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,039
But then, like some of those
teams that he would want to be

787
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,360
signed and traded to, can they
make it work and be hard capped?

788
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,119
Is something that you're gonna have to
get into. So I'm not worried.

789
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,760
It is interesting though, just because
it's a little sucks now and so it's

790
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,760
like, it'd be cool if he
I just want to hear that Paul George

791
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,639
took meetings, which we don't get
anymore because free agency unfolds. We remember

792
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,760
back in the day, maybe when
we first started covering the league, were

793
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,679
just like, oh, they would
take days to make their decision because they

794
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,440
were having all these meetings ron like
did he take like two weeks? Well,

795
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:51,360
like oh, Dwight Howard flew to
Houston or like there was all there

796
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,840
were all these like who's flying where
we knew? We knew, like like

797
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:59,079
playing schedules, And I just want
to hear that taking meetings. That's when

798
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,199
it would be like expect him to
leave. But that's what would be interesting.

799
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,760
You know, Darryl Moury wants to
come in and be mister like leverage

800
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,159
play like he would love like this. Maury has like no like cap on

801
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:15,519
his ambition. So like I suspect
that you know, there's tampering has already

802
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:22,440
happened in the six all George's reps
like guaranteed campering doesn't happen. No,

803
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:28,400
it's all pretend everybody's or whatever.
So this is the last question we have

804
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,280
on the corpus from Ruverscal. Do
you think we'll see Russell Westbrook playing in

805
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,719
the dunker spot again on a super
small ball lineup of Powell, Hardened,

806
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,440
Leonard Westbrook and George We saw that
line up very fleetingly and I mean seriously

807
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,719
small sample sized theater, but it
is devastating in its speed and ability to

808
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,320
force turnovers. It is an interesting
lineup. But the problem with it,

809
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,480
I suppose, is that like you
have to play a point guard sized guy

810
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,519
in the dunker spot because you can't
really use him any place else in that

811
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,679
configuration. Well, wait, should
we bring it up? Should we sound

812
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:00,000
that, well, what have you
used Russell Westbrook? Is the screener alarm?

813
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,280
Or we have we moved be opted? I think we don't need to

814
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,840
say that anymore, do we?
Yeah? No, I mean it makes

815
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,440
some sense, Like I guess,
like who's who's getting to the bucket in

816
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:14,960
that lineup to like make the dunker
spot valuable other than Powell? I guess

817
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,159
if you're gonna pick nits about it, I wonder if you're just like,

818
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,280
it's gotta be so matchup specific though, because man, that's a small gal.

819
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,599
Yeah, that's that's a great point
where it's which teams do you think

820
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,400
that you because you can't run that
lineup against Denver. No, you can't

821
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,639
run it. You cannot if you
did it against Minnesota, I mean,

822
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:36,280
that'd be interesting because just the juxtaposition
of like, oh, this one he

823
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,119
has like two bigs on the court, and then this other team has zero

824
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:42,599
bigs and not only is a zero
bigs, but who's the tallest player in

825
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:45,800
that lineup? Is it? This
was Paul George six's eight yeah,

826
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,159
six eight six nine, And I
like, I don't know, you're I

827
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:51,440
guess you're putting him on the center. I like Phoenix. If Phoenix also

828
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:55,000
goes small, maybe you try it
there. You're not drying against the Lakers,

829
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,599
I have, I will confess because
I don't watch any games. I've

830
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,519
never seen Clippers play, so I've
never seen this lineup. They've played forty

831
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:07,000
four possessions and have a plus forty
three point two net rating, one fifty

832
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:12,639
two offensive rating, one oh nine
defensive rating. I honestly, you might

833
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:15,920
as well try it. I'm just
like, what team Phoenix? I think

834
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,280
you can get away with it against
Phoenix Golden State. I guess if Draymond's

835
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,480
the five, you probably like that's
there. Would you dare to try it

836
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:24,719
against like the just because you're not
threatened to buy like the rest of the

837
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,400
team, just like against the Lakers. Would you try it the Pelicans?

838
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,039
Anthony Davis is a thing. You
can't. Anthony Games is the thing.

839
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:36,880
But it's just like you're so like
the rest of that roster is so blots

840
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,199
where it's like you wouldn't And you're
definitely not gonna try it against the Pelicans

841
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,480
because you're either against Yonis and Zion
or then you're just inviting the Pelicans to

842
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:51,079
go Zion at the five without really
Zion three hundred points with that with no

843
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,719
bigs in there. Yeah, it's
interesting when you could try it against the

844
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,599
Kings maybe right, Yeah, the
King rust defending some bonus. Is that

845
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:01,320
what you would do? I guess. I don't know. Oh man,

846
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,280
we're talking about forty four possession lineups. Look, I want I love Everyone

847
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,360
knows how I feel about absolutely play
this lineup. I'm just curious whether it

848
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,400
would hold up. Yeah, long, like over a longer samples all if

849
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,039
they go to it for any length
of time, Like I don't know,

850
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:21,320
Zoobat's got hurt or something's gone wrong. I'm so glad I don't have to

851
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,960
answer this next question about the Los
Angeles Lakers, which is our next team

852
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:30,440
from Alexaus seventeen. Who is D'Angelo
Russell and could he finally be finally entering

853
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,480
his prime and deserve to be the
Lakers starting point guard for years to come.

854
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,519
I answered this question with another question, can you take this one?

855
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,320
No? So as someone who remember
how and I just had this discussion with

856
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,159
Kyle tayee uh oh Good's let's reliitigate
the Conley dlo well because I was saying,

857
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,400
because he was talking about how that
might have been the best trade in

858
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,400
Wolve's history since it got gnaw and
so I said, I don't know if

859
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,639
we did. Because I talked to
him for the look at man after my

860
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:59,400
own heart, I said, I
don't know if I told you this when

861
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,280
we record that I eviscerated the Wolves
when they made that trade, I said,

862
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,519
I think I gave him like a
D when I was grading them.

863
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,800
I was clearly wrong. I still
can't quit. D'Angelo Russell is just like

864
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,679
a concept because I watch his game
sometimes and I enjoy it. Since the

865
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,239
middle of January, about twenty seven
games, he's averaging twenty two point three

866
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,239
points six point four assists, forty
five point six percent from three on eight

867
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,000
point four temps per game, including
forty four point eight percent on off the

868
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,079
dribble threes. That is the second
best mark by the way of forty nine

869
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,559
players who've attempted at least fifty of
those, behind only Colin Sexton during this

870
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,320
stretch. The bigger question with D'Angelo
Russell if you want him to be your

871
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:44,440
long term point guard, is ken
he carry units on his own. The

872
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:47,159
Lakers offense is in the seventy fifth
percentile when he plays without Lebron, but

873
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:51,679
they're still minus three point one overall
because you're giving up so much on the

874
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:54,840
defensive end that declines. Actually,
they have a worse net rating when Delo

875
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:00,280
and Anthony Davis play without Lebron than
when Delo plays without Lebron and AD they've

876
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,000
actually won those minutes. I think
that says more about the quality of competition

877
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,239
and is that the path to him
being their long term point guard is So

878
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,679
you've seen that you can mesh now
with Lebron NAD, but can we just

879
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,119
make sure that you're cooking against the
right units where we're never asking your lift

880
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:21,239
as a playmaker and primary scorer to
be too heavy, And then can you

881
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,320
put together these twenty seven thirty game
stretches over the course of well, no,

882
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,039
that was forty games. That was
fifty games, to where you're just

883
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,079
he does still when you watch him, when you look at the numbers,

884
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:35,119
it does still feel like he has
more peaks and plunges than a player that

885
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,159
you would want to be your long
term point guard. I do think the

886
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,679
actual key to this is almost out
of his hands. It's can you put

887
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,920
the right personnel on this Lakers team
aside from Ad and Lebron to make it

888
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,000
work, not just in the starting
five, but outside of it. And

889
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,679
that's where you get into some weirdness
to where they haven't been able to find

890
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:57,599
these two way wings that stick.
There's the Austin Reeves dynamic there to where

891
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,760
Austin Reeves is valuable. He can
be okay defense, but he's not like

892
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,440
a good defender. So I don't
The answer here is I don't know.

893
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,639
I will say the Lakers do not
have a better option at the moment.

894
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,920
And the other final thing I'll say
is I think he has played well enough

895
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,320
to get them to think about if
you wanted to get a Trey Young or

896
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,719
de Jontay Murray. How much are
you willing to give up an addition to

897
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,280
D'Angel Russell to get those guys and
Trey Young. I want to make it

898
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,719
clear, it's just by far he
can carry lineups on his own. But

899
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,679
it's like, because of how well
d Angel Russell has played, if you

900
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,199
get to a point where you can
trade three outright first pick first round picks

901
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,199
plus Austin Reeves plus all this other
stuff, are you going the full boat

902
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:45,800
after Trey Young or you're throwing the
half boat after de Jontay Murray. If

903
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,000
D'Angel Russell closes this season to play
in the playoffs, whatever they end up

904
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:53,599
doing like this, it's a fair
question. It's also a little bit out

905
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:57,199
of their control. He has a
player option, so he can decline it

906
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:00,239
and leave if they don't want to
pay him, which I mean, yeah,

907
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,400
that's a whole other thing. Is
it too obnoxious for me to just

908
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,199
say I'm not changing any of my
priors on Russell until I see a playoff

909
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:15,119
series where he's not like targeted and
disappointing on defense to the degree that like

910
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:20,840
he gets his role cut, like
I just like everything you said is true,

911
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:27,559
Like he provides a a the types
of contributions that the Lakers aren't cannot

912
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,480
get from anyone else on the roster, like just the the scoring, the

913
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:32,519
three point shooting, the pick like
the ball handling, pick and roll stuff,

914
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:37,159
Like he's been a good offensive player
and sometimes better than that, like

915
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,559
for several years. But that's just
really never what it's been about. The

916
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:44,960
Lakers need that stuff, but you
need more than that if you're gonna say,

917
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:47,079
oh, this is our long term
answer at point guard for a team

918
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:52,920
that realistic or not has like we're
trying to win a championship. So I

919
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,840
think Russell has outperformed my expectations to
this point because they're low, but because

920
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,000
he's been good. But like,
I'm not gonna I don't know, I

921
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,599
guess I feel like I'm being dismissive, But I just like Russell is a

922
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,639
player type that I've never been a
huge fan of. I think, like

923
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,880
all of the issues you talked about, Like it's tricky to fit the right

924
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,159
pieces around him because he has like
legitimate deficiencies that good teams capitalize on all

925
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:19,960
the time. It's like just like
a big that can't move or defend the

926
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,800
rim, like a point guard that
can't guard on or off the ball,

927
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,480
and that needs really needs to shoot
well and score well to to like break

928
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:30,639
even. Like you you, I
don't know if you gave the on the

929
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,960
net rating numbers for when he's out
there with Lebron and or a d like,

930
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:37,280
they're still losing those minutes even though
the offense is pretty good. It's

931
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,599
not a coincidence that, like is
what tends to happen with him and with

932
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:43,639
players like him. So let's see
it. Let's see it in a playoff

933
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:46,760
series if they if they make a
playoff series at all, before I like

934
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:52,519
really start reevaluating like where russell sits
like in my estimation or you know,

935
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,719
at the position in general, I
think it's fair, and it's just the

936
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:59,920
player option has an interesting element because
he's gonna opt out that it's it's almost

937
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,599
well, would we rather pay him
long term or throw all our trade assets

938
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:07,320
in for Trey Young or I know
they mentioned Donovan Mitchell. I'd probably prefer

939
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,159
the Trey Young route still, even
given his own defensive limitations, just by

940
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:16,079
virtue of his his his passing is
just absolutely fantastic and you know that he

941
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:22,679
would float lineups better on his own
than D'Angel Russell. Yeah, and then

942
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,920
like the high the highs of his
offensive contributions will just be such that you

943
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,440
can live with, like the defense
is not good or whatever, like Russell's

944
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,239
not at that level production wise.
All right, move on to Memphis.

945
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,000
I think our last team of this
one before we had some stat padding Memphis

946
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:44,400
Grizzlies. Let's see, you have
to ask me this one because I asked

947
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,679
you the DL one. Oh you
did. I apologize. I'm happy to

948
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:50,480
ask you this one because this is
kind of a tough one too. Uh.

949
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,239
Our friend's nine on one ask how
much is Memphis willing to invest in

950
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:59,159
a center this offseason? And you
should probably you should probably outlay With their

951
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:01,000
cap situation, we would say,
is the better question how much can they

952
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,480
which if I believe five point two
million dollars basically is what they can do.

953
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,840
That's mini mid level cash. That's
assuming they're willing to spend it.

954
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,079
If they If they are willing to
spend it, and this I guess they're

955
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:15,960
over the tax. If they keep
Luke Canard around, they have a team

956
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,760
option on him. If they do
not keep him around. They're still butting

957
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,840
right up against the tax. So
it's like you're maybe you get to the

958
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,039
full mL I guess kind of sort
of do they want to spend that.

959
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:30,840
I don't know on a I mean, like, I guess it's not probably

960
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,239
not a starting center if you assume
Jackson is just going to be your starting

961
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,559
five. I don't know, like
they I'll put it this way, I

962
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:43,719
don't think they're going to get anybody, anybody better than a healthy Steven Adams

963
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,079
was and would have been. So
you're you're talking like the Drummonds of the

964
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:52,679
world, Dario Sarich, Daniel Tice. Uh, you know, unless you're

965
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:54,679
talking a trade, right, there's
some trade options you could you could look

966
00:59:54,719 --> 01:00:00,320
at. I just don't know how
wise it is to invest in it,

967
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:05,639
to really see that. This is
another thing. If there were major names

968
01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:08,519
out there available in trade, then
maybe you think differently about it. But

969
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:12,280
I don't know, like who's the
real difference maker you're getting in trade,

970
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,840
like Bobby Portis Kevon Looney like this, I don't know. I don't know

971
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,119
who's who's like changing who's changing their
world? Do you do? You reb

972
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,800
Capella? Right, and you're not
gonna go all in on a big when

973
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,719
you have Jaron Jackson Jr. I
don't think so, No, I mean

974
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,400
they like, if you were gonna
do that, maybe you just hold on

975
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,079
to Steven Adams and hope he gets
healthy. Like I don't know if that's

976
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,639
a realistic thing, because they probably
have a great sense of whether he will

977
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:40,679
ever be healthy or not, and
that's why they traded him. But like,

978
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,679
you're not doing better than that?
What? Like it feels like the

979
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,440
most and it would have to be
via trade because they're gon't do anything splash,

980
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,599
You've already outlined this. It feels
like, Okay, the Knicks want

981
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,440
to resign as a heart and Stein
of early bird rights make him their starting

982
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:58,639
five, and then they'll have Jerich
W. Sims a backup five and Mitchell

983
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:00,960
Robinson's healthy and becomes available. Would
you be I don't know what his trade

984
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:05,119
value would be. Like that feels
like the middle ground where he's not gonna

985
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,039
play a ton of minutes anyway,
so we get plenty of triple J at

986
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:10,880
the five and he shouldn't cost the
moon to obtain. But it feels like

987
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,199
they are most likely they will like
either bank on Brandon Clark being healthy next

988
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,920
year even though he's smaller than drag
Jift Junior, or they'll maybe they'll address

989
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,320
it in the draft or just with
one of like the smaller time free agents,

990
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,679
which aren't by the way, those
are drawing up to Like Kelly Olynics

991
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:29,039
signed an extension. Not that he
was a bad free agent, but like

992
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:32,119
he's not even gonna be on the
market anymore. Maybe maybe you think,

993
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,639
too, you can get some spot
minutes from Santill Dama at the five against

994
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:40,400
like very specific lineups. I think
you gotta be real careful there. But

995
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:45,079
it just it seems like going,
Look, look, we talk about all

996
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:51,599
the time that Jared Jackson's ability to
space like occasionally every other year basically affords

997
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:53,960
you the opportunity to, like you
can't play as Steven Adams or just like

998
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:59,039
a Bismack Biyambo or like whatever.
You can play like pretty plotting, you

999
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:01,800
know, paint bound big and get
away with it because you're getting shooting from

1000
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,880
Jackson and he can guard in space. But like doesn't mean you have to

1001
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,800
do that. You can just play
Jackson at the five and you know,

1002
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:13,639
deal with the rebounding issues that come
from that. And just put better offensive

1003
01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:15,719
players on the floor. Like that's
an option too, and for based on

1004
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,719
the landscape and based on what this
Grizzlies team should look like next year.

1005
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,079
I think that's my preference, right, I just let's have Jackson play most

1006
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:27,360
of the center minutes. You don't
need to spend even the mini mL E.

1007
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,280
You use the minimum on a on
a backup big, I guess,

1008
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,000
especially if you think Clark is going
to be you know, the guy who

1009
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:37,800
plays some small ball five against second
units, Like you're talking about a third

1010
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,400
big really now? And it's just
funny. They look they do need a

1011
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,639
big when you're kind of just looking
at the setup of their depth chart.

1012
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:46,239
They traded Steven Adams, they traded
traded Xavier Tillman. I'm just like,

1013
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,519
I'm still just the word's not infatuated, but I'm just like, can we

1014
01:02:50,559 --> 01:03:00,400
get some real wings in here?
Yeah, that'd be nice. So we'll

1015
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,880
do on this addition to stat padding, let's do you want to do guess

1016
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,199
a player? Do you want me
to give you the stat padding? Guess

1017
01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:08,639
like questions that I have for you, I'll let you choose your own adventure

1018
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:13,280
there. I'll answer your question by
adjusting my posture so I'm in a better

1019
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,400
position for you to clip these together. Oh okay, I know what that

1020
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,519
means now then, thanks very much, sir. Okay, So, Grant

1021
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:24,400
and I made this one super short
because we have a lot to do.

1022
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:34,960
Which NBA player has more triple doubles
with zero turnovers? Nicole Jokic or Jason

1023
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:38,800
Kidd Jason Kidd. That is incorrect
eight to five in favor of Jokic,

1024
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:45,920
Lebron James or Michael Jordan Lebron.
That is correct one to zero. Good

1025
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:52,960
job there, You're a monster.
Chris Paul or Ben Simmons Chris Paul.

1026
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,199
That is incorrect. Ben Simmons has
two, Chris Paul has one. Wow.

1027
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,599
Grant Hill or Magic Johnson Grant Hill. That is correct three to two.

1028
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:12,079
Kobe Bryant or Jimmy Butler Jimmy Butler
correct two to zero. Kevin Durant

1029
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:16,800
or Russell Westbrook Kevin Durant, Uh, that is incorrect. Russell Westbrook has

1030
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:23,599
him one to zero. Pow Gasol
Po Gasol excuse me? Or keem Olajuwon

1031
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,079
I gotta go Paw. That is
correct. He has him three to two.

1032
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:32,519
How about that? Yeah, Okay, Boris Dia or Larry Bird.

1033
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,440
If you're putting Boris Dia on here, you know I'm gonna pick Boris Dia

1034
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,320
that is correct. Two to one. Had him beat good stuff from you.

1035
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,360
That's that's all I have on that
one. Oh oh, are you

1036
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,320
okay? I just was happy to
hear Boris Dialle's name. If I'm being

1037
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:57,639
honest. Okay, rant which m
which active NBA player has more games in

1038
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:03,559
which they made every single shot that
they attempted? DeAndre Jordan or Bismock Biambo.

1039
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:12,519
Oh, there's no minimum shot him
ount sont for one. I'm gonna

1040
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,719
say. I'm still gonna say DeAndre
Jordan that is correct. He's the all

1041
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,639
time leader, by the way,
two hundred and seventeen. Bismock Biyambo one

1042
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:28,199
hundred and thirty five amazing. Javal
McGhee or Dwight Powell. Dwight Powell that

1043
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,960
is incorrect. Javal McGee one hundred
and thirty to one hundred and twenty seven.

1044
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:40,239
Cavan Loney or Mason Plumbley. I'm
gonna say Mason Plumbley that is incorrect.

1045
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,559
Cavonloney won twenty two to one oh
seven. Oh big margin. Rudy

1046
01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:49,239
Gobert or Yakab Peertl. I'll say
Gobert. That is correct, ninety two

1047
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:56,960
to eighty three. Mitchell Robinson or
Robert Williams the third. Oh so many

1048
01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:00,280
dunks between these two. I'll go. I'll go Mitchell Robinson. That is

1049
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:06,039
correct, seventy six to seventy three. Very topical at the moment. Daniel

1050
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:11,840
Gafford, Yes, or Robin Lopez. I'm gonna say Daniel Gafford because he's

1051
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,920
got like five of them in the
last couple of weeks. Seventy two to

1052
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,960
seventy one in favor of Daniel Gafford. Good job pulling ahead, Okay,

1053
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:27,639
Drew U Banks or Jackson Hayes.
Jackson Hayes incorrect seventy to sixty five in

1054
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:33,119
favor of Drew U. Banks.
Tristan Thompson or Taj Gibson. Oh man,

1055
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:38,280
I'm gonna go TOAJ Gibson. It's
funny that they're both considered active well

1056
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,199
the TODs. Gibson's actually on a
well, so is Thompson. Uh that's

1057
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:46,400
incorrect sixty to sixty to fifty five
in favor of Tristan Thompson. Isaiah Hartenstein

1058
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:54,039
or Kyle Anderson. I gotta keep
going with the bigs. I'm gonna say

1059
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:58,559
Hartenstein that is correct. Fifty four
to fifty. Kyler says fifty games in

1060
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:00,519
which he shot one hundred percent from
the floor. That's actually pretty wild,

1061
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:08,199
that's amazing. Uh, Clink Cappella
or Myers h no, no, no,

1062
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:12,679
no sorry, Clink Capella or what? These players aren't active? Why

1063
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:14,519
do I have them on the list. Let's try this one more time.

1064
01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:24,119
Clink Capella or Jericho Sims Clink Cappella
incorrect. Forty seven games for Jericho Sims,

1065
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:27,599
forty five for Clint Cappella. Gotta
be a lot of two for two's

1066
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:35,119
in there for Jericho Sims. Andre
Drummond or Kem Birch, Kem Birch incorrect,

1067
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:39,719
Andre Drummond forty one, Kem Birch
thirty five. Try to zag on

1068
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:46,559
that one that hurts, uh Yonas
Valentiunis or Xavier Tillman. These are so

1069
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:54,519
these guys that just never shoot.
I'm gonna go Valentis incorrect exam thirty five

1070
01:07:54,599 --> 01:07:59,119
to thirty four on tilt right now, hurting. I'll give you a couple

1071
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:01,920
more to see if you can fit
on a high note. Okay? PJ.

1072
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:10,679
Tucker or Jeff Green PJ. Tucker
correct, twenty nine to twenty eight.

1073
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:13,920
Would you like me to stop there? No, I'm gladd and give

1074
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:20,039
me one more? Okay. Roys
O'Neill or Kita bhd Off is even?

1075
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:29,159
Is this like suns Reserve edition of
this question? Royce O'Neil, that is

1076
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:33,279
correct, Let's go twenty eight to
twenty seven, twenty eight to twenty six.

1077
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,359
Excuse me? You want to go
for three in a row? I

1078
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:41,199
do? Nick Claxton or Gary Payton
the second? Oh? GP two?

1079
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,520
Yeah, that's incorrect twenty eight to
twenty seven in favor of Nick Claxton.

1080
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:54,239
Oh, at least's close. Grant
Williams or Tias Jones Tias Jones incorrect,

1081
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:57,319
twenty six to twenty five in favor
of Grant Williams. I think you're g

1082
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,199
you a pair that I think you'll
get. How could you possibly know which

1083
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,640
ones I'm gonna get? I apparently
don't, because I thought you were gonna

1084
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:13,279
do pretty well with this exercise.
Kelly olynnok or Moses Moody. Moses Moody

1085
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,279
correct twenty two to twenty one.
All right, you want to stop there.

1086
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,600
I think we got to cut it
off there, and so these are

1087
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,239
so hard, like, I'm sure, do I just pick a guy played

1088
01:09:21,239 --> 01:09:25,439
more games. I went into this
one knowing I couldn't cut it up either,

1089
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,199
because there's not enough. We do
this. It's called stat padding.

1090
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:30,159
People know why we do this.
Not enough people are gonna care about so

1091
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:33,720
many of these names in there that
they'll just swipe swipe past me. You

1092
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:40,520
don't think there's a big market for
Keta Bates Geop versus Royce O'Neill. As

1093
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,560
soon as I said it, I
was just like, this is so stupid.

1094
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,439
I feel like it's good AMMO for
anyone that's like, oh, you

1095
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,960
guys only talk about the big market
teams like, no, sir. In

1096
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:56,119
fact, we completely skew the other
way. For stat padding, we're talking

1097
01:09:56,159 --> 01:10:00,920
about the most obscure. I thought
you were gonna put Leonard in there.

1098
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,760
I was just not gonna pick him. But I was so mad that I

1099
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:08,039
had him written down. I was
like, because they're they're listed under active

1100
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:10,600
and it's just like I would like
players that are actually on rosters. And

1101
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,520
then when I had Tod Gibson and
Tristan Thompson written now I was like,

1102
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,399
you have two guys who aren't on
rosters, like no, Tod Gibson is,

1103
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,720
and I forgot just because Tristan Thompson
suspended like he So yeah, I

1104
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,399
forgot about that boy, TODJ.
Gibson. Okay that but you know,

1105
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,560
so you're mentioning we only talk about
big markets. I do throw in like

1106
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,920
so the Michael Jordan versus Lebron want
even though Jordan didn't have a game,

1107
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,279
It's like, you gotta do that
for the algo. So what is this

1108
01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:40,359
segment called grant right, it's it's
it's naked, unabashed, pay pay attention

1109
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:44,319
to us. We're gonna make shorts. It's look, it's our biggest subscriber

1110
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,640
driver. Are these shorts. If
anyone is doubting the model, it's just

1111
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,039
like I publish a long form video
or one of our clips, we might

1112
01:10:50,119 --> 01:10:56,520
game like anywhere between zero and five
subscribers. Yeah, like Mars between most

1113
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,239
of the either ors. You give
me like zero and five. Yeah,

1114
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,399
i'amiliar with it. But if this
something like this, if we get only

1115
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:08,520
five subscribers off a short, it's
a failure. Like that's just that's just

1116
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,039
how It's just bizarre. I'm familiar
with failure too, based on this last

1117
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:15,239
exercise. Sometimes it's good to get
humbled, though, I appreciate it.

1118
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:19,000
Yeah, we don't get that enough
with Guess a Player? Right, all

1119
01:11:19,079 --> 01:11:21,920
right, we're doing Guess a Player. We're gonna call it for this one

1120
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,439
and get the next edition. Can
you take us out of here? I

1121
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,319
really can. Thanks everybody for your
questions. Thanks in advance for the questions

1122
01:11:29,359 --> 01:11:31,000
we're going to read on the next
one of these. If you would like

1123
01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:35,800
to participate, join our discord uh
the link for that and how to get

1124
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,640
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1125
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:45,079
Please remember remember to rate, review, subscribe, follow anything you can on

1126
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:48,319
all of our socials. Please just
help the algorithm love us, share all

1127
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:54,039
the content that we put out here
about us. This Grant and I.

1128
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:58,039
I was telling Grant because I want
him to hear like compliments. We've gotten

1129
01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:00,000
a lot of praise from people within
the industy lately. I don't I don't

1130
01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:04,399
know what we did, but if
we're getting that type of praise, make

1131
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,520
make all the other random people praise
us. Yeah, yeah, we drive

1132
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,079
up the audience. We want perfect
strangers to care about us. That's what

1133
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:14,640
this is all about. That's how
I measure my self worth. Isn't that

1134
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,479
how you measure yours? Absolutely,
I don't care what my family thinks,

1135
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,760
like what they're stuck with me?
I will I want new people. You

1136
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:25,720
never remember both your kids' names half
time, I don't know like you.

1137
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,239
You told me you were ready to
give Mac up for adoption because he said

1138
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:31,720
Sabonus was his favorite player. I
did when we went to that we'll get

1139
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,680
out right here. Well, we
did go to the Kings game. I

1140
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,439
had like a half a thought of, like, is my son going to

1141
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:41,560
have to see me be confronted by
an angry person which recognizes me from what

1142
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:48,359
I said about Sabonis? In hindsight, thought no one, Well, uh,

1143
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,880
counterpoint, yes they do. I've
been recognized in the gym off of

1144
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,600
YouTube. By the way, we
don't make I don't even care about the

1145
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,520
peaks behind the curtain. We make
no money off of our YouTube, and

1146
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:04,880
like we most of all of our
revenues from the actual podcast stuff. Our

1147
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,800
YouTube is considered fledgling, I guess, but I've been recognized at the gym

1148
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,760
from our YouTube, So people the
algorithm knows, and there's even some people

1149
01:13:14,279 --> 01:13:15,680
I don't. I don't think enough
of myself to think this is all these

1150
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,479
case. But some of them look
at me with like a puzzled look on

1151
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,039
their face. And it could just
be because my nose and forehead are so

1152
01:13:21,159 --> 01:13:24,760
huge, or it could be I
think that guy showed up in my shorts

1153
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,960
feed like that was scrolling and I
saw this dude, but it has happened,

1154
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,279
so that was a distinct possibility put
to you for or maybe I should

1155
01:13:33,279 --> 01:13:39,039
be criticizing you for putting your child
in danger. Actually, like he's gonna

1156
01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:43,159
have to see dad have an argument
in public. Uh, that's gonna do

1157
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,159
it. Thanks, tell your friends, tell your enemies. Shout out Frank

1158
01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:47,119
Millikina apologies to Jared Allen.