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All right, what is going on? Everyone? Welcome to another episode.

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Conspiracy or just a coincidence. It's
been a while. I think my last

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show is November. It's been a
crazy time, long break. I'm finally

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back though the baby, I have
my my son's home. I got the

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odd Man with me, so for
I'll introduce odd Man first. Odd Man,

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how are you doing? Thanks for
coming. How's it been? Man,

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It's great to be back with you. It's great to be back period.

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Uh you know, I've been kind
of laying low myself, not doing

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as much stuff, and uh,
you know, it's it was kind of

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good to to kind of get some
time off. So thank you for asking

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me on. Oh dude, I'm
so happy you're you're able to do it.

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So without further ado, We'll bring
my We'll bring Louie, Louis James

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Allan, here are you passing to
me? Oh? One set? One

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set, one set? Okay,
all right, So everybody, this is

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mister, this is mister, this
is mister Lewis. So here he is.

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You're live. You're live, You're
you're live to two people the world

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to see you. He's already a
star. And that's right. He's got

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a conspiracy theorist. All right,
you got him? All right? No,

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so all right, So anyway,
so I'm so but thanks man for

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doing. You know, it's like
it's hard, like once you have a

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baby and pets and life. It
was, it's just been you know,

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it's tough to juggle a podcast and
work and you know it's gets life gets

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hectic. Oh sure does, man, it sure does. I know exactly

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what you mean, yeah, dude, And so I I even like I've

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been listening to a lot of audio
books, so like I love this series.

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It's by Wildering and they're written over
like I don't know if you ever

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heard it. I think, I'm
sure I've taught, we've like talked about.

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But it's like from or ancient times
to I think it goes up to

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maybe the post Revolutionary War, maybe
right around there. But it's like twelve

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series, twelve books there. It's
like like eighty thousand pages and I've just

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been using audible credit after audible credit
and all those I've jumped all around.

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So now I'm on Napoleon's era.
But it's an awesome series because like I

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don't you know, I know bits
and pieces of the history you know,

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but it's just that's so that's just
what I've been it said, I haven't

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been reading as much, but that's
what I just listened to that all the

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time. I finished like five of
his books already. So if you're ever

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looking at their amazing, I mean
they're so amazing. I've learned so much

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about like the Renaissance, and you
know, he just breaks it up.

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It's awesome, it's so awesome.
Cool. Yeah, but that's been my

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big so the first time, like
I told ad Man, before I even

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started the show, I had zero
plans. I can't. I was washing

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bottles, uh, you know,
before I even came up here. It

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was we were struggling. But the
biggest topic obviously that I wanted to talk

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about was the Jewish tunnels being dug
in the what's the the Chad Lubadovich,

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which what is I I feel like
you've talked about that group before. Yeah,

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it's actually I think it's called the
hubbad Lubovich. Yes, okay,

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it's it's it's weird. I've heard
it pronounce a bunch of different ways.

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But yeah, they're like, you
know, kind of a different sect of

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the Hasidic Jews, Orthodox Jews,
and they're what makes them different is they

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well, for one, they own
an absolute unbelievable amount of property, so

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they're very wealthy. That's not really
anything new, but they're very wealthy.

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And also they I'm blanking on on
the title, but they are one of

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the few Jewish sex that actually tries
to convert people. And what they do

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is they pay young couples to go
out and convert, try to convert people

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to Judy. Really, they're like
the Mormons knocking on door or Joel Witness

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is knocking on doors. Yes,
similar to that very much. So yeah,

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yeah, because I feel like,
I don't, I don't, I

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don't, I know nothing, but
I feel like it's like against the rules

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to prothless prothlessize or I mean,
it's just extremely uncommon. So that's really

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weird that they do that. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that

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they try to convert non Jews,
you know, I think they just try

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to I see, I'm sorry,
So they try to convert already Jews to

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their sect yeah, or just uh, non religious Jews to Judaism. There's

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their version of it. Yeah,
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a few interviews on the tunnels,
and like the one guy, you know,

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he was I don't know if he's
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they're they're saying it was. It
was totally unknown to the leaders of the

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synagogue they were doing this. It
was done by migrant workers. I'm like,

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what, dude, come on,
you you know such And it was

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done by a bunch of teenagers from
Israel, some far right teenagers. You

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know, that's such a BS story, unbelievably BS. But I did find

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it interesting was that they so again
this is allegedly they did this because the

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guy, the guy that they claimed
was the Messiah, at one point rebbe

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from blanking on his name. I
don't know if you know his name who

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passed away, and like, do
you know his name, yeah, knock

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him Mendel Schneerson, Yes, yes, And he passed and he like six

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years before he died. He said
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holy site they have in Crown Heights
where they dug the tunnels, and that's

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why they were digging the tunnels to
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But and and then I found even
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that the Argentinian president visited when he
went to New York. I don't know

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if you knew that, no,
but man, it's coming together. That's

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really interesting because we've probably talked about
this, but that was the grave that

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Ivanka and Jared had visited the night
before Trump was elected and they prayed there.

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Yeah, no way, dude,
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And then I saw like a few
like posters like he like claiming he was

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the Messiah, you know, or
something like that. And so I found

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that that interesting as well, is
that I don't know if he's still people

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still share those or hold those beliefs, you know, within that group,

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but clearly he had a lot of
sway and a lot of power to be

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claimed to be called the Messiah at
some point, you know. I mean,

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yeah, absolutely. I saw an
interview with somebody. It's been a

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few months ago, but they said
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I guess a Bodist if I don't
know if that's what they call themselves,

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but the Bodhists. But in Israel, they still hold signs and say that

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he's the Messiah. So damn wow. And they call yeah, and they

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call him Rebbi, they call him
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that that that's where the Argentinian president
visited, I said, like, very

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that's very interesting. And you know, so many people were and I try

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not to be so like pessimistic,
but when you know, so many people

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were like, yeah, look this
this libertarian president one, It's like,

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dude, come on, come on, yeah, how like you how many

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times do we need to be tricked
before you realize that he's not going to

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do anything. He's not going to
do anything. What's going on? Du

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mister terrible? Thanks for coming,
but yeah, like you know what I

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mean, like, come on,
guys, please please. Yeah. You'd

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think that people would learn, but
that people just don't learn in mass you

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know. And you know another thing
about Sneerson and just hbad in general is

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they have like when you see presidents
or people like you know, DeSantis and

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there's rabbis gathered around, if they
have those black hats kind of look like

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sort of like mobster hats but not
yeah, a little bit bigger. Yeah,

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those are hubbodists because the other sex, I believe, wear different types

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of hats. That's my understanding.
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president in the last I don't know. At least going back to Carter,

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you can see pictures of those guys
with the President. And not only that,

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but Sneerson, if I remember correctly, was born in Ukraine, which

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is an interesting connection. Right well, I remember John on the show at

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some point talked about I feel or
maybe you did, that they even have

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like power in Russia. That's who
like Putin, you know, associated with.

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So I mean this must be a
very large group, you know,

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a large sack of Judaism, but
that holds a lot of power. I

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think they do. And I've seen
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book upstairs and I've only read bits
and pieces of it, but it's the

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guy who's in the Hubbad organization.
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and he's got a section in there
where he talks about how during the Cold

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War they the Hobbodists, they ran
an intelligence ring in Russia. So these

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guys are more than just a synagogue, for sure. I've seen some videos

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they had some kind of I mean, all churches have intelligence and inspirings.

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That's totally normal, right right.
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was it was some kind of get
together they had and it was it was

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a video clip and it was what
was that? Joseph Lieberman, he was

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a Democrat senator a few terms ago, and when I first got into politics,

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he was really popular. He was
a Democrat, but he was like

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friends with Hannity, friends with all
the Republicans, right, And so he

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introduces Jay Wolsey, who is the
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time, but he had been the
CIA director. And I forget the exact

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quote that Lieberman says, but he
says something like I've often said that about

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is no ordinary synagogue. They're almost
like an intelligence agency in themselves. And

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then he introduces Wolseley. So these
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would think, oh, absolutely,
dude, absolutely, and and like just

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the and I don't you know,
I don't know what the tunnels are for.

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I think the one, you know, everyone's like pointing to the mattress

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and like the baby stroller and you
know, assuming the worst. But I

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think I saw like the measurements being
something like three feet by, like they

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weren't big, they were like very
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about it. Like you could crawl
under them, you know. So I

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don't know the true purpose of what, but I did see and you know,

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I know, I don't know if
it's real or not. But I

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saw some guy's Twitter account and he, like you, maybe he has a

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podca. He's like twenty thousand followers, but he tweeted December like seventh.

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He says, I swear I keep
hearing Yiddish underneath me, but I'm on

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the bottom floor and I don't my
building doesn't have a basement. And then

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like on the twenty thirty, said, I'm going to delete this tweet because

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people, if they're gonna people are
calling me schizophrenic and all this stuff.

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And he lives like right by the
synagogue. So I thought that was funny.

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I mean, if I don't know
if it's real, you know,

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people can like doctor all those things
and stuff like that. But I thought

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that made me laugh that, you
know, because if you can just imagine

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you're sitting in your room or like
someone speaking Yiddish underneath me here a nightmare.

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that somebody had taken a screenshot of

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a couple of that guy's tweets,
and I wasn't familiar with him. So

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I went on Twitter or x or
whatever they called these days, and the

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guy is like, he works for
the Blaze. So yeah, I guess

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that's he had said that people were
calling him anti Semitic, right, yeah,

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he was saying that. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, right, which

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is insane, and I mean that's
you know, so, oh so what

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do you do you have any speculation
what the tunnels are for? Yeah?

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No, I mean I'd like to
know more about them. You know,

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there's not been a lot of information
that I could find. You know,

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basically what you said is about all
I know. Yeah, you know,

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somebody said, well, they're just
uh, they're just like making more room

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to live because it's so expensive to
live in New York City. Yeah,

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that's a lot of that's a lot
of work and a big chance to take

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just to you know, did you
hear they hired migrant workers to dig the

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tunnels? Oh? No? Oh
so and that was the other thing that

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made zero sense that because again they
claimed they did this without the leadership knowing

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that they did it, like Shawshank
Redemption, where so these migrant workers secretly

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were digging these tunnels for them.
And then the far right teams were carrying

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out the dirt in their pockets,
Like come on, oh man, I

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mean you saw how I think they
got like at least like fifty feet or

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something like that. They got far
they were carrying out the dirt in their

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pockets. I mean really really,
like somebody wouldn't notice the dirt all over

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you know, they're so messy,
you're going to see that all over the

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sidewalk, all over their clothes.
I mean, dude, that's such an

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outrageous claim to make, that they're
carrying out the dirt, you know,

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carrying out this stuff in their pockets, like, you know, they just

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think we're so dumb, they think
we're idiots. Yeah. Yeah, And

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somebody suggested that it was a place
for I think they call it the mikvah,

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the ritual baths for the females.
Okay, I don't know if there's

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any truth to that or not.
I mean, why wouldn't you just do

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that part of the synagogue, I
don't know. Yeah, And you know,

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and then you also have like the
QAnon people, Well I don't have

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QAnon. They're probably I don't think
they're anti you know, Zionists. So,

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but you know, human trafficking and
I mean maybe, but like again,

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I'm pretty sure the tunnels are only
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by you know, not you know, not like big enough to crawl like

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an adult could crawl through you.
No, I mean, I mean human

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trafficking. Maybe, I don't know. I find again, like that's you'd

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have to build build a bigger tunnel. You have to do that. So

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I feel, you know, there's
got it. There's definitely some reasoning to

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it, maybe to hide maybe do
escape people. But I can't imagine that

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you're I don't know, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,

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that doesn't quite Yeah, that doesn't
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but it could just be what you
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temple because they believe it's a holy
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they do some crazy stuff, so
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me, I guess, because I
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abuse cases in those communities, but
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I wish I could remember the name
of the page because it's worth following

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on Instagram. But there's one and
I'll try to find it and if anybody

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wants to ask me, I'll try
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to him. It's just video clips
of this rabbi sneers and people giving him

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money, just coming and giving him
handfuls of money. And there's one that's

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a short clip of this lady comes
up and she says, I'm Steve Spielberg's

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mother. Do you know who Steven
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and you know, she gives him
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blesses her, you know, and
it's yeah, I mean, this guy

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clearly had power. I mean,
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lot. They called him the Messiah, so clearly, you know. But

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it's interesting he's from Ukraine as well. Yeah, isn't that weird? I

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believe that if I'm not mistaken,
it's you know, I've looked up all

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this stuff and I'm starting to forget
more than I remember, but it's just

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all going in my head. But
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the whole, like the Hasidic sect
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pretty sure that's where the kind of
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reading The Thirteen Tribe by Arthur Koestler, which is basically talks about how none

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of the Jews from the Bible still
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which was a modern day like Turkey, Ukraine Ish area from and they

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resided there from like six hundred to
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what pushed him out, if it
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but then they spread from there and
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hype the way like you know,
he goes, yeah, he cites all

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this evidence, these letters from like
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leader of the tribe at this point
he had a Christian missionary, a Musslim

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missionary, and a Jewish missionary all
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so like, why what religion should
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it out Islam. But he so
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What he did was they all agreed
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and so he said, since they
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go with Judaism. And that's how
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know modern and since like you know, I frege at which Roman emperor's son

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wiped out all the Jews? Do
you remember his name? I can't remember

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who did that? No, I
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is. But that, but that's
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and they come from that, you
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find that I and I that I
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because you know, it's a that's
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if you look up Kazari, there's
so much little information on this. It

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was a real place, you know, all these things, but yet you

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that. And there's something else.
It's like DNA testing, it's not banned

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there in Israel. There's something weird
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it would show that these people are
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like that though, So I found
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know, I I asked Ron Lane
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and I don't know if he's going
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they call him Ron from the North, I've heard him on a few podcasts

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and he knows a lot about the
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this, if anybody listens to Ron's
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with odd Man. I've bugged him
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think I'm a lunatic like a lot
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a lot of good information on that, and I've tried to look into it

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myself. I've got enough to do
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matter of kind of putting everything in
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no, that Thirteenth Tribe book is
awesome. You know, it would be

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hard. I was thinking about doing
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because he writes it with just using
source documents and then like analyzes the source

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documents, you know, So it's
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Yea, but like it, like
it was just really fat. It

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was like because at the time there
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Jewish populations and they're called what Sephardic, right, and so they were the

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ones that came over and they were
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huge civilization existed of a Jewish homeland
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But yeah, it's just like how
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Israel. Their bloodline comes from from
Kazaria. And you know, it's just

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funny now that you said that that
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know, it's just a weird,
weird coincidence, I guess, yeah.

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there are no coincidences, conspiracy or just

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a coincidence. I forgot the name
of my show. It's been so long,

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I forgot, but but you can
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a lot of sleep. But yeah, but yeah, so I just when

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I saw those tunnels, though,
dude, that cracked me the hell out,

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Like it was just so funny the
videos and like the throwing of things

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and the blocking of them. But
then when again when I saw that somebody

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they really were pushing the lie that
they were carrying the dirt out in their

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pockets, I was literally like,
oh my God, Like, who believes

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this? Who believes this? You
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you're on, you know, is
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I guess that's people would believe that
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that's another thing that makes Hubbad a
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the American or the docs seem to
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Zionists, a lot of them anti
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mean, I've tried to read because
like they really have a good source.

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hbad dot org and I forget the other

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one, but you can find out
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because they they just straight up tell
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I've read a lot of their stuff
and it's just really interesting to kind of,

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you know, see this happening at
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You know. Yeah, so that
sex big into Kabbala and the occultism

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and all with the rituals. I'm
guessing oh yeah, yeah, absolutely as

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crazy as you want to get pretty
much really I want. And I wonder,

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like, you know, I did
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wonder how closely related Hubbad is to
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practice. Yeah. You know,
it's kind of hard because you can see

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elements of Frank or at least I
know more about shabtaiz v. I guess

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he was the precursor to Frank.
Didn't Frank like think he was Shabbatai reincarnated

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or something. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, so but I see some things

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that that really remind me of that. You know, they say he was

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like anti Noman or whatever. He
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then again, at the same time
that they seemed to push all their laws,

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you know, like there's six hundred
and thirteen laws and all that stuff.

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into the Noahide laws. They're big

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pushers of these Noahide laws. And
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and then then George Bush signed a
document a document as well. And the

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way they did it was it was
in the name it was to honor this

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Rabbi, Sneers said, But they
put it under an education bill or whatever,

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and so on a certain holiday they
they honor him. And it has

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some text in there actually about the
Noahide laws. Really, so it's not

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like they implemented them, but they
they show them honor. And then I

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noticed a governor, I want to
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I could be wrong. There's been
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last few years honoring the Noahide laws. Wow, and for I've what are

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the I've like, I vaguely,
what are the Noahide laws? Again,

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Well, so the Jews have a
whole bunch of laws, but these are

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added They claim that Noah gave the
or God gave these to Noah uh either

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after before the arc. And then
the Gentiles only have seven noah Hide laws

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that they have to follow. But
they're also sub laws if you start looking

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into the text. Because I've got
this book and I think it's called the

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Divine Code, It's like an eight
hundred page book. I've got the PDF.

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and it's like all the laws,
what they mean the sub laws,

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and so I've tried to like go
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one I'll tell people that they should
look out for as far as the seven

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for the Gentiles is they say that
idolatry calls for the death penalty, capital

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punishment, and they consider Christians idolators
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and they actually what I thought was
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that the Muslims are not blasphemers,
they worship the same God. Interesting,

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but the Christians are, I mean
idolators, not blasphemers. So you know,

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it's pretty interesting because I think to
myself, damn, look at the

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way they treat the Muslims and they
think they served the same God. Right,

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so think what they would do to
the Christians if they ever Well,

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and I'm sorry I'm jumping back to
the Kazarians, but I just remember something

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else. The Kazarian prior to converting
to Judaism, they were pagans, and

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they were big into like ritualistic you
know, blood sacrifices, all this that,

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you know, all the you know, like all pagan groups are,

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you know, sacrificing people and stuff
like that, and they incorporated that into

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the Judaism. So when the Jewish
missionary came back, or when a Jewish

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missionary came back to visit Kazaria,
he was like, whoa, this is

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a lot different than this isn't really
what we do and you know, we

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don't do this. And so I
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interesting that that that rabbi is from
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the the sac problem, incorporate it
incorporates I'm sure so much Kabbala in it.

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And I wonder how how much comes
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practices that they incorporated into into Judaism. Yeah, that's a great question.

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The Kazarians. So people say that
the ashkar Nazi are a Kazarian,

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right right, yes, and the
Sephardic are the ones that come from Spain,

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correct right now? This is this
is one of the things I have

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to question though, and I'm kind
of skeptical on if they are Kazarians and

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they're not real Jews. There's some
pretty like powerful Sephardic rabbis in in Sephardic

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synagogues. Why would they not be
freaking out, you know, because they

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are the Ashkannazi are taken over,
like at one point that the Safardam were

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the majority and now the Ashkenazi far
I think, yeah, so that that

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makes me wonder why that hasn't because
I know there's problems between the two types

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of Jews in Israel anyway, Yes, yeah, which is it's fun.

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I think the Sephardic don't they look
down on the I think, I mean,

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I think both like there's there's an
animosity between both. But I'm pretty

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sure like the Sephardi believe I don't
you know, they think they're more like

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real than the Ashkenazi, right,
I think that's yeah, I think so,

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like they look down on them as
well. They think they're stupid and and

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not as sophisticated as Nazi. Interesting, dude, Yeah, it's like it's

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such a fascinating like that it is
a fact. I didn't finish the book

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yet, but it's fascinating topic,
like just how they they were like this

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the bulwark against you know, so
I don't forget, I don't know who

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they they protected kind of Europe from
that's why they supported them. A lot

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of European countries paid tribute to the
Kazarians because like they they were, like

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they said, like the they were
like the people stopping and I want to

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say the Mongols, but I think
that's wrong because the Mongols were like after

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that, but I'm pretty sure,
but I think that's what drove them out

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eventually, actually was the Mongol Empire
eventually pushed Kazar because that's what ended the

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Kazarian Empire was the Mongols and they
pushed they pushed them out. But but

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yeah, and and it would make
sense though to hide that if you're if

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you're this is your big claim to
Israel is this is your birth your homeland,

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this is your birthright, and you
would hide this information that will actually

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you're no one's from there. We're
all from Turkey and Ukraine, Russian and

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area. But you know, that's
that's why you would hide that information.

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Like the as much as possible.
Oh, absolutely, yeah, it's it's

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it's fascinating. And you know,
I remember probably seven eight years ago stumbling

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upon an article like it was like
a scientific article from from a professor in

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Israel, I think it was Hebrew
University, and she had done that DNA

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study probably the one that you're talking
about that said that they were uh you

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know, the ashke Nazi were of
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you know, right, So right, you know that, right,

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that's that's interesting. Well yeah,
it's just it's fat, dude, and

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00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.480
it makes sense because like the again, I want to say, Herodis,

405
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.079
that's gonna bother me. I'll have
to look it up when you're talking.

406
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.839
But when he you know, when
the Romans wiped out the Jews there,

407
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:02.000
I mean, they slaughtered like all
of them, it didn't matter. They

408
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:07.640
enslaved the women, they killed every
like every male, They enslaved the children.

409
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.920
I mean because they were fed.
I think they killed a few like

410
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.079
Roman soldiers or Roman you know,
they didn't want to pay taxes or something

411
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.000
like that. I mean, and
they slaughtered like all of them. I

412
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.559
mean they came in he literally,
I mean they kind of like what they

413
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:27.119
did to uh Hannibal's group, the
Cartheniagens or whatever, you know, Carthage.

414
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.680
So you I mean, how many
really survived from that that attack.

415
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.759
I can't imagine that that many did. So you know, even if you

416
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:41.240
have, yeah, I mean not
like if you fifty thousand survived, I

417
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.640
mean you can't. It would be
hard to re populate with you know,

418
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.759
nobody wanted to take you know,
they had nowhere to go. It was

419
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:53.279
you know it really so it makes
it makes perfect sense that that was the

420
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:59.319
at that's where you have this large
population come from, because yeah, they

421
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.839
wouldn't they know there was they didn't
they I mean they raised that they burned

422
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.519
the city of the ground they did, they destroyed it. Yeah, yeah,

423
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.480
it's yeah, there's a lot there
to to investigate, and I would

424
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.640
you know, I'm sure that there's
some people out there looking into this and

425
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.519
probably have done some great work on
it, Like I said, Ron Lane,

426
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.960
but I'm sure there's other people as
well. But you know, if

427
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.599
you if you're a big show,
you're probably not gonna do too much on

428
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:28.920
it because you don't want to.
By the way, did you think it

429
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.559
was last week or maybe two weeks
ago? I'm getting the times mixed up.

430
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:37.079
But have you seen uh? Are
you familiar with brother Nathaniel? He

431
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:44.200
was a gu his whole life and
became an Orthodox minister recently. Yeah,

432
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.480
yeah, did you get to check
that out? I saw a few clips

433
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.839
of it, but you probably saw
the best part. Yeah. It's funny

434
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.200
because from what I can tell,
I saw a bunch of people say that

435
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:59.880
Alex deleted that pretty soon afterwards.
I forget what what do you say?

436
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.039
He said something like what did he
say? I forget what he said?

437
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.680
Well, his main I think the
main thing he was trying to push h

438
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.799
to get Alex to accept, is
that, you know, because they basically

439
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.640
are the money lenders. It's the
same old story going back, you know,

440
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.200
hundreds and hundreds of years. They
control the money. So just that

441
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.799
simple fact of they control the money
means they control politics and control entertainment and

442
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.200
news and stuff like that. And
so I think that was his main thing.

443
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.319
You know, he he knows it
so well because he grew up in

444
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.039
that culture, you know. So
yeah, it's I saw it, Like

445
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.720
I said, I saw the clips
of it, and it's funny that Alex

446
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:45.160
deleted the clips. But and he
seems like kind of like a crazy guy

447
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.000
a little bit though, you know, yeah, I don't know, but

448
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.440
he seems like a little he seems
like a little wacko. But well,

449
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.720
apparently I didn't realize this, but
he had started a the website Real Jews

450
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.720
News, and I've been seeing that
for years. I didn't know that was

451
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:07.559
his website. And I talked to
a shout out to Carl Hassel. A

452
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.039
lot of people know him on Twitter, but he was telling me that brother

453
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.239
Nathaniel has been around for like he's
an I've been following him for fifteen years.

454
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.119
I thought he was kind of like
new on the scene. So I

455
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.280
didn't realize that he'd been putting out
information that long. Wow, dude,

456
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.920
that is a long time. Yeah, very long. And then all right,

457
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.599
so we'll get off this topic because
I don't know, you know,

458
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.000
we start with the tunnels, and
we we beat I feel like we beat

459
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:36.000
the tunnels up. And I'm sure
every like show has talked about the tunnels

460
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.880
to the n degree and you know, there's there's there's only so much in

461
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.920
Tide. But I just love the
dirt in the pockets. But anyway,

462
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.920
so you were talking about how you
your last study or what you've been working

463
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.960
on recently was freemasonry and and yeah, so what have you been studying?

464
00:34:54.039 --> 00:35:00.000
Well, basically, I've just been
looking into the because, like you know,

465
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.760
know, ever since I got into
like researching, reading history books kind

466
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.559
of suppressed history and stuff like that, and the occult, you know,

467
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.480
and I hear people talk about the
New Age and Freemasonry, you know,

468
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.239
constantly, and so the more I've
looked into kabbala, you know, the

469
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:21.800
more I realized that it's the root
of Freemasonry and the New Age. And

470
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.960
so I just was like, let's
see if we can prove it, because

471
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.400
you hear a quote here and there
from maybe Albert Pike or maybe Manly p

472
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:35.639
Hall like kind of equating the two. But I was able to find just

473
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:40.480
a whole bunch of quotes from different
occultists and freemasons about that. So that's

474
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.079
mainly what the I've done two shows
on that, and that's mainly what it's

475
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:50.000
about. I basically just for the
most part read the quotes because I feel

476
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:55.599
like they're telling and their proof that
you know, they are. Kabala is

477
00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.239
like the root of I would say, even modern occult in general, because

478
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:06.519
they all use the Tree of Life, and that seems to be one of

479
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.440
the major things that they, you
know, all occultists agree upon. And

480
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:14.760
I've talked to a cultists that are
pretty seasoned and they they don't not all

481
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.199
occult is even realize that's where it
comes from, like the Kabbala and all

482
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.000
that. So and I don't I
don't know when like Cabala was incorporated into

483
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.280
judae as it always been involved with
it. I like, I don't know

484
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.719
when, and like do I don't
think like and do regular groups, Like

485
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.800
I don't know how much it's involved
in like regular because I know there's like

486
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.559
three level, just like Christians,
there's like three levels. I forget because

487
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.280
I where I grew up, like
my high school, my area, we

488
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.920
have a large Jewish population, and
so I forget. So it's like,

489
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:51.440
you know, there's Orthodox, there's
like a middle group, what's that Orthodox

490
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.920
Reform and Conservative? Yes, okay, all right, and I and there's

491
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:58.639
yeah, so like because most there
was no like Orthodox in my school,

492
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.599
but there was a lot of like
the other ones. Yeah, but yeah,

493
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.480
So where as I going, Oh, so I don't know which,

494
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.119
so I assume only the Orthodox.
I don't like which group, you know,

495
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.000
I would assume only the Orthodox get
involved in it. With that,

496
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.320
well, you know, I thought
that at first, and you know,

497
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.199
you've got the Orthodox and the ultra
Orthodox, and that's these different Hasidic groups.

498
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.679
And I'm not sure where Hobbad's falls
in there, but one of the

499
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:31.320
most popular rabbis who is has written
many books about kabbala is Michael Lateman,

500
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.519
and he's like one of the most
popular rabbis in Israel. And so I

501
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.840
started looking at reform Judaism and he's
in the reform sect, and I started

502
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:47.039
finding more and more articles about reform
Judaism and Kabba law, and so I'm

503
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.079
like, well, you know,
and you do read every now and then

504
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:57.039
you'll read like that they weren't big
on mysticism, but it's it's been incorporated

505
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:01.760
in over time. And from what
I can understand with the with conservative and

506
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.360
reform Judaism, So what that was
is Judaism, you know, was they

507
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.280
were getting kicked out of all these
places and all the programs and all these

508
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.559
different things. And part of the
reason was because of their beliefs, because

509
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.440
they wanted to, you know,
be able to rule themselves under these Talmudic

510
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.639
laws which are so bizarre and inhuman
right, and that was it. They

511
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.199
didn't want to obey the laws of
the land, basically what I'm trying to

512
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:31.239
say. So in Europe they they
they kind of had the idea, i

513
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:37.840
think, to create reform Judaism,
okay, and in the United States as

514
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:43.159
well, and then conservative Judaism is
mainly, from what I can tell,

515
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.360
mostly just in the United States.
I'm sure there's some synagogues here in there,

516
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.159
but it was a way to kind
of it's an Americanized Judaism that you

517
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.800
know, that they wanted to be
able to have these synagogues without getting pushedback

518
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:01.920
basically. And so they're not supposed
to be the conservatives. They're not supposed

519
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.360
to be into mysticism that much.
But I've been finding the same here lately

520
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:14.679
about reading the Zohar in a conservative
you know, ju ju daate ick website,

521
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.639
synagogues and different things like that.
Not as much as the reform,

522
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.400
but also in the beginning of reform
they didn't they were against the tal mood.

523
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.719
And now the Talmod's come into being
looked upon, is okay to read

524
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.360
at least parts of it in the
reform Judaism, and it's kind of working

525
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.840
its way into conservative Judaism. So
I think they're all just basically trying to

526
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:42.119
get back to orthodox Judaism. Okay, sorry, that's a lot of no

527
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.480
And I was isn't this so the
Talmud? Right? So this is what

528
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:51.119
I think I remember is when Noah
got the ten commandments the Talmud, is

529
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.800
he got other information or was there
like other people with him or something,

530
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.039
And that's the oral tradition that's been
past. Supposedly that's been Those are the

531
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.920
rules that were passed down when from
God to Noah, right right, Yeah,

532
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.639
that's yeah. Supposedly God told Noah
the oral as well. You know,

533
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.000
he gave him the tablets with the
ten command right, then gave him

534
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.239
the So that's I guess we're the
six hundred and thirteen years because it's like

535
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:20.800
a bowload of things and that's and
that's been passed down just like you know,

536
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:27.000
like that's been just passed down from
generation to generation. Yeah, yeah,

537
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:32.119
and to your forgive me, I
got sidetracked. So it's so from

538
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:40.039
what I can understand, some people
say that Kabbalah it come about like before

539
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.800
any recorded history. But from what
I can understand, there was mysticism.

540
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.760
There was something called Mercaba mysticism in
Judaism, which was kind of the precursor

541
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:58.599
to Kabbo law. But Coupla really
came about as far as having written documents

542
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.599
and I think, uh, like
uh, eleven hundreds, so it's a

543
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:07.360
relatively new thing. Yeah, and
then you got you know, the I

544
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.800
think the thirteen hundreds when the Zohar
was published by this rabbi Moses da Leon.

545
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:19.199
And then I think maybe two hundred
years later, give or take some

546
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.360
change there, Uh, you had
the the lorient Kabala come about. It

547
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:28.360
was kind of like a revamped,
reformed Kabala. And that was by this

548
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:34.079
guy. They called him Isaac Luria, the the lion Luriau the ari i

549
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.679
guess Ari means lion. But anyway, so he kind of like was the

550
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:43.239
one that come up with all the
light, the symbolism behind light in kabbala,

551
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.239
sparks of light escaping and you having
to collect the light by doing these

552
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:52.320
good deeds, obeying the laws and
all that kind of stuff. And from

553
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:57.320
what I can tell, that's also
where the idea of tikau lam come from.

554
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.760
Is Uh. Basically it's their idea
of the great work. Basically Freemasons

555
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:07.719
we would call it the great work
or occult but doing good deeds to try

556
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:15.239
and kind of right the wrongs of
the world. So that and that's in

557
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.960
Judaism across the board. Now like
that, a lot of stuff that happened

558
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.360
under Isaac Luria just seeped into all
of Judaism. So it's pretty interesting once

559
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.280
I started realizing, oh man,
a lot of these ideas came out of

560
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.159
Kabbala and they're just a part of
all Judaism as far as I can tell.

561
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.920
Interesting, huh and you and so
I think I changed the topic on

562
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.360
you. But so if you,
Freemasonry pulls a lot of its ideas from

563
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.039
the Kabbala, and I think the
most secret societies do as well. They

564
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:52.119
pull their information from that that mysticism. That right, yeah, yeah,

565
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.159
and uh, you know it comes
about like the kabbala Is talk about levels

566
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.280
between levels and levels beyond level,
and you'll hear like Manly p. Hall

567
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:07.440
talk about how masonry has levels between
levels, and you know, they it's

568
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:13.480
basically like, you know, there's
no absolutes. That's kind of what Kabbala

569
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.079
teaches and what free masonry teaches and
what the occult teaches. For the most

570
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:20.599
part, I think, as far
as I can tell, there are no

571
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.920
absolutes. And so the kabbala,
the rabbis say that, you know,

572
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:28.559
they can make it basically the they
say it's based on the first five books

573
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:34.840
of the Bible, but they also
say that those books can be interpreted anyway

574
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:38.760
you want. Basically, it's endless
their interpretations, you know. And so

575
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.840
all these rabbis have been writing books
for hundreds of years and thousands of years,

576
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:49.920
I guess now with different interpretations of
what it means. So and I

577
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.719
wonder why this why, Like it's
I guess it's seeped into the secret societies,

578
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:58.920
maybe to like cast a wider net, I don't you know. I

579
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.840
like, I wonder why is it
or to cat to get more people that

580
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.199
in practicing, you know, like, what's the purpose of it getting into

581
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:12.760
these secret society groups? Well,
you know, I wanted to I wish

582
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:17.119
I could say for sure, because
the big question is did Jews create freemasonry,

583
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:22.280
because there's so many similarities. But
you know, I tend to kind

584
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:28.639
of think that they didn't create it, but that there's just so many similarities

585
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.960
that they once once it was kind
of put together and came out in the

586
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.679
open as hey, we're we're a
secret society. You can join it,

587
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.079
and people started finding out about it. I think it was you know,

588
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:46.039
I think they kind of infiltrated it. And because it why not. I

589
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:51.760
mean, it's a perfect situation.
It's it's it's based on their so called

590
00:44:51.800 --> 00:45:00.199
religion, and it's also secretive and
perfect for things like you know like uh,

591
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:06.199
intelligence and uh, you know,
doing things like mobster ish different things

592
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:09.639
like that. And then a breath
was you know, became the a d

593
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.360
L and the neigh Breath was Freemasonry. It became out of a law.

594
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.519
I mean they call them lodges.
Many of the guys that started the neighbor

595
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.280
were Masons and that's all documented too. So yeah, but then I struggle.

596
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:28.280
I also, but it's weird with
that because like Scottish rife freemasonry that

597
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:32.599
came from you know, like the
templars and all the that things. So

598
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:38.039
it's it that's and it crosses over
so it's like you know, between religions.

599
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.920
So it's so you know, maybe
if it's pulled those ideas from that,

600
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.519
but it's weird and they I mean, and even some of those ideas

601
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:52.639
get pulled in from like what is
it the what what mystic the group is

602
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.159
in Islam the sufis, yeah,
the sufis yes. So it's crazy how

603
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.840
that that also crossed that over,
you know, between all religions, how

604
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.159
they have this mystic group, you
know, like a mystic sect of it

605
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.679
that all seemed to practice the same
thing. Yeah, yeah, that is

606
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.840
very interesting. Indeed. Yeah,
it's it's hard to you know, it's

607
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.880
hard to find absolute definite proof of
this or that. But I've just tried

608
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.119
to kind of collect as much information
from the people in the know and kind

609
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:29.960
of say, okay, this is
all the information we have saying that basically,

610
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.960
and I dude, man, of
course there's some hermeticism in freemasonry.

611
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:40.920
There is, you know, you
can find some astrology and freemasonry, but

612
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.880
it just seems like that that's the
roots of it. And you know,

613
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:51.199
I'm hoping to do a show about
this. I've been looking at the origins

614
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.880
of the Scottish Rite in the United
States, which started in Charleston, you

615
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.440
know, Charleston, South Carolina.
I know it started in Charleston. I

616
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.320
believe. So, oh yeah,
at least that's where the headquarters was,

617
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:06.440
and I think now it's in Washington. Oh really, but yeah, Actually

618
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.880
we went there a few years ago
and it's a neat town if you ever

619
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:15.119
get to go, because there's all
these historical markers on the streets on the

620
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.719
old houses. They say they're cannonballs
still in some of the houses in the

621
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.400
inside the walls from because it's right
there where uh you know, the first

622
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:29.400
shots of the Civil War were fought
and all that stuff. But yeah,

623
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:34.679
it's that was there was actually,
like I got a picture of it.

624
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.719
There is a on the side of
a building and it could have been the

625
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:43.199
old Scottich Right headquarters. I don't
know, but it was an abandoned building

626
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.519
had this metal thing that looked something
like maybe a vent on the side and

627
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:51.039
it stuck out and it had the
eye and the pyramid in it and it

628
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.199
looked like it was like two hundred
years old. It was rusted. Is

629
00:47:54.320 --> 00:48:02.679
pretty awesome, And there's lots we
were driving for Louis, like appointments and

630
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.840
in Philadelphia they at the Penn It's
like or no is it Penn? Yeah,

631
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.840
University of Penn and like they're old, this old like shutdown part of

632
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:17.199
the campus and on the campus there
was it a Star David or not.

633
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.320
Damn it, I'm pretty sure it
was a Star of David or it was

634
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.599
like yeah, I'm pretty sure the
Star David was on and this you know,

635
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.079
the pennant started, you know,
before the Israel was created, so

636
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.559
before that flag was utilized. You
know, the Star David is not from

637
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.840
the Bible, but that it was
on a building in there, and I

638
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.840
was like, that's so like,
what's you know, that's such clearly and

639
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.519
you know obviously Philadelphia huge freemason,
Freemason town, I mean, all the

640
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.199
founding fathers and everything. So I
just found that like super fascinating that this

641
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.480
it's engraved in this and now it's
like it's like the courtyards like totally like

642
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.639
shut down and everything like that now. But it just it's like so weird

643
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:02.079
that you know, it's aged in
this building from you know, the seventeen

644
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:06.920
hundreds. Oh yeah, there's a
lot of history in that state for sure.

645
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.920
That Yeah. I heard this mason, Robert W. Sullivan, and

646
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.199
he was talking about Philadelphia and he
said, you know, it's the Keystone

647
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:16.760
state, and he said, the
reason they call it the keystone is because

648
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.840
that's the uh, it's basically the
like the royal art stone in the center,

649
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.480
the keystone, the whole of that
thing together, right. I never

650
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.480
thought about that. I was like, no, yeah, that's what they

651
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.039
said. Yeah, that's yeah.
But I mean I think it's like dual

652
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.320
meaning you can like say anyone regular
it like holds you know, these states

653
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.679
together. But if it's a big
Freemason term, obviously the keystone it's huge.

654
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.000
It's like such a you know,
huge you know, sim symbol or

655
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.639
whatever, right, right, I
all, But then I also like to

656
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.440
in today's day and age, you
know, I don't you know, obviously

657
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.599
freemasonry isn't popular anymore. I guess
maybe they just they don't need to.

658
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.440
Maybe you don't need to have a
secret society to do it, you know,

659
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.360
or maybe it's just celebrities that do
it. I mean, because I

660
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:06.079
don't know, I don't follow like
ma, but like like Doja Cat,

661
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.320
I don't even I didn't even listen
to the song, but like she has

662
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:13.079
like a song like called Demons and
like little not you know, obviously I'm

663
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.639
sure people listen to Isaac Wisop they
could find much more better information, but

664
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:22.039
it's it's so amazing, like the
what they put out, like these these

665
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:28.480
music videos that are just such like
clear ritualistic you know, spells or whatever

666
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:34.239
you want to call them, energy
harvesting like rituals. That it's it's so

667
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.679
maybe you don't need a secret society
to practice it anymore. You can just

668
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:42.280
do it out in the open and
call it art. You know, yeah,

669
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.760
yeah, you know that's now that
you said that, Like I listened

670
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.519
to uh. I think it was
William Ramsey. He sometimes will play old

671
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.840
podcasts from other shows, like classic
stuff, and he had one the other

672
00:50:53.920 --> 00:51:00.239
day. I just was scrolling through
and it had the author of the book

673
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.119
Blood on the Altar. I think
his name's I want to say, Craig

674
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:07.320
Heimbechner or something like that. It's
a great book. It's about the Ordo

675
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:13.119
templey Orientis and he claimed that was
the main kind of like secret society that

676
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:17.039
runs the world, which I have
my doubts about that, but it was

677
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.239
very interesting and none nonetheless, because
he has so much other information in that

678
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.440
book, but he was saying something
that I thought I'd actually thought about and

679
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.320
may have even said something similar,
but he said, look, you don't

680
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:35.519
need the Masonic lodges to be popular
anymore. You don't need these secret societies

681
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:42.519
to be that popular anymore because everybody
has been initiated through pop culture. So

682
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:45.159
oh, I like that. And
that kind of goes along with kind of

683
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:50.519
like some of the stuff you read
from Alice Bailey kind of talking about initiation

684
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.360
and stuff like that, so it
all kind of makes sense. Did jump

685
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:59.519
around jump around like crawl. That
was also so weird was how Crawley like

686
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.000
in World War One, because you
know we talked about I'm still like reading

687
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:07.559
that book because I'm just so slow
on reading these days. But like how

688
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:12.280
all like the these all these people, these powerful people in every country,

689
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.320
they were all conn and a lot
of it this comes from Germany, which

690
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:16.920
is so weird as well. I
don't again, I don't know what the

691
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:21.519
connection is with Germany and like their
fat I don't know if it was like

692
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.440
just a fascination with the with their
people or like what it was. But

693
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:30.320
regardless, like they're just how all
these powerful people were so connected in these

694
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:36.000
secret groups and that was how like
Crowley was able to be such an influential

695
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:40.320
spy, was because you know,
they they really appreciated his work or whatever

696
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.239
you want to call it, and
that's how he was able to infiltrate all

697
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:49.639
these upper echelons of German you know, power players, because they were all

698
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.800
members of these secret societies, like
whether it was the OT, I don't

699
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.599
know if it was the OTO or
their medical order. You know, they're

700
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:59.360
all whatever, whatever group they were
a part of. But it just was

701
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:02.679
so crazy, all these powerful people, just like today, we're so high

702
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.599
up and involved in these you know, these rituals and doing all these crazy

703
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.719
things. It's just like wild,
how times have not changed at all?

704
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.800
No, No, that's it,
You're right, And yeah, I mean

705
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.679
and we kind of the same way
you think about it with the I mean,

706
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.519
I'm not as down on the Founding
Fathers like some people in our community.

707
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:28.239
I try to keep a level ahead
about it because I mean, without

708
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.639
them, we wouldn't be here.
So I mean, you know, but

709
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.719
you know, we were kind of
led to believe that they were all Christians,

710
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:36.719
and then you get a little older
and look into this stuff and you're

711
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:38.199
like, oh, well, most
of them are Freemasons and Indias, or

712
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:42.559
at least a good percentage of them, So yeah, I got all of

713
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.400
them. Yeah yeah. So you
know, if you go back to that,

714
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.840
and and I try to tell myself
too, because I've tried to go

715
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.320
I've done like ten shows on freemasonry
at this point or something like that,

716
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.920
and I've tried to really delve into
the books that nobody reads, you know,

717
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:01.039
the really occult Freemasons. Like a
lot of it's just cookie cutter stuff,

718
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:05.440
you know, it's like surface level. But a lot of these guys

719
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.480
like J. D. Buck is
one of the ones. Mystic Masonry is

720
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.239
one of his books, and he
tells her plainly in there, you know,

721
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:17.280
it's it's about becoming your own God, you know, basically the and

722
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.159
she goes right back to the the
Garden of Eden. That's you know,

723
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.519
he's he's and that's I think the
basis of all occult belief systems is just

724
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:30.119
becoming your own God. You know. In my opinion, I don't know,

725
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:35.159
do you know Billy Carson is he's
like he's an African American guy.

726
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.000
He's like real big into he's he's
like a new age kind of guy.

727
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:43.159
But I mean he's he's like very
super smart guy. He's an alien guy

728
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.000
though, so I don't know if
you've ever seen Billy Carson, do you

729
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:51.199
know that. No, he's like
he's very popular. He was on Instagram

730
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:52.480
and stuff like, I mean,
he's got a lot of followers. But

731
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:57.760
he's big on the Anyanaki, the
Emerald tablets and stuff like that. But

732
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:02.039
that's like what he pushes and from. It's constantly is with like combining Jesus.

733
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:07.320
But really you know where all gods
and and you know you can see

734
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.880
where that where that's going. You
know where that could take you when you

735
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.400
when you think you're a god,
you know, right, And that's what

736
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:20.159
I always like try to explain to
people. You know, they always are

737
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.239
bigger, like, oh, the
Europeans they slaughtered all these people, they

738
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.639
did all this stuff, you know, like these practices that they were doing

739
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.559
prior to the EU. Like when
you're a pagan culture and you don't have

740
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.639
this set of not saying Christianity is
like a perfect religion by any means,

741
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:37.280
but if you don't have that,
you know, the Aztecs were slaughtering up

742
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:43.159
to one hundred thousand people a year
alive, cutting out, beating hearts to

743
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:47.320
appease these gods. And so you
can see how if you can remove Christianity

744
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.360
from a culture, you can remove
these standards and you promote these ideas like

745
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:58.559
you know, where your morality is
kind of like up to you, you

746
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.119
do what feels good. These are
the same beliefs that you know, the

747
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:07.079
Sabotine Francas have that that you can
see where that will lead to, you

748
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:08.840
know what I mean, Like it's
it's a it's like a dangerous spot to

749
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.599
go to, yeah it is.
And you know, you look at some

750
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.400
of the things that happened, like
all the dead people that died under communism.

751
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.320
I mean, granted that was part
of the West's fault too because they

752
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.079
were doing things that kind of you
know, because they were finding communism to

753
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.800
to break these countries and you know, but still at the same time,

754
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.760
a lot of people died under communism, which was atheist. And then you

755
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.519
look at like science. I mean, I always think back about science.

756
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.559
You know, it's basically known as
you know, atheists loved to put got

757
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.800
science on the back of their car, right, But if you think about

758
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:46.840
it, science has done on one
side, science is double edged sword.

759
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:52.400
It's done some wonderful things and given
us a ton of fun things. On

760
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.320
the other side, it's given us
poisons, It's it's given us the atomic

761
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.480
bomb. It's it's given us all
these things that allow us to kill our

762
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:06.800
fellow humans and masks and make us
sick. And you know, so you

763
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.239
know you got to think about it
man and all the scientists, Well there's

764
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.360
I guess no, it's split.
There's some scientists that were very Christian and

765
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:17.039
then there was some scientists that weren't. But it reminds me of Steve I'm

766
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.719
and we'll end with like this topic. But the Epstein and I didn't even

767
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.960
did you read the Epstein documents that
that were leaked or like, I didn't

768
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:30.960
even because I think it was just
like the same names that always came out

769
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.119
like that. We all knew.
I'm pretty sure, right, Like I

770
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.320
know, I mean I've seen some
people post some things and they posted some

771
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:42.199
pictures some guy and it was like
a collage of it was just like movie

772
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.119
stars like Bruce Willis and some people
you wouldn't kind of think would have been

773
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:50.199
on there. But you know,
yeah, well I saw this Stephen Hawking

774
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.760
was or not Stephen Hawking, right, Yeah, the guy in the wheelchair,

775
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:58.880
I can't Yeah, yeah, that
guy he was on there and like

776
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.400
visited you know, frequently or all
the time. And I'm stealing this from

777
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.599
Roman Benjamin, but he brought up
like a great point too, like he

778
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:14.320
was diagnosed with I think it's a
sthing like yeah, with a l S

779
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.519
and like the normally like the the
you're you know, the the lifespan of

780
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.199
people with this disease very short,
you know, not a long time.

781
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.559
And if even if it is,
you last long, like you you lose

782
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:30.280
brain function and things like that,
and like this guy he lasted supposed you

783
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:35.599
know, so long. I don't, you know, it's just like another

784
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.679
like scam that just like it's just
that maybe you know, like I don't

785
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:44.840
know, I don't know, It's
just it's just and again just I'm just

786
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:50.760
saying that because science he's involved in
Epstein Islands, like you know what,

787
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.000
it's just like what are the odds
of that? You know? So weird,

788
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.119
it's so weird. Yeah, but
yeah, Like so I didn't read

789
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.000
any cause I think it was all
the names that were already on the list

790
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.159
like that we all knew, like
the Ken or you know, then there's

791
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:08.079
Kennedy's on there, Clinton's on there, but and then I keep seeing articles

792
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.840
now and I don't you know,
I'm not like a Trump. I don't

793
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:15.440
love Trump, but I keep seeing
articles now that at first they highlighted,

794
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:20.199
you know, Clint Or they taught
they had to bring up Clinton, Prince

795
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.119
Andrew, and then they also like
there's this one guy. I keep seeing

796
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:28.719
articles, one guy is talking about
like Trump and Trump, and it a

797
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.880
lot. And I don't doubt that
Trump was you know, was was was

798
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.960
involved in that thing. It's like, you know, I don't you know

799
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.079
I would accept that, but yeah, it's just funny, like how politically

800
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:42.920
I see the discourse is if you
bring up Clinton, then they'll bring up

801
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.039
Trump. You know, you have
to spend your gout your side at all

802
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:52.920
costs. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's sad. I saw I saw today

803
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:59.320
that the former Prime Minister of Israel, his name is Ehud Barak, he

804
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:02.960
was one of the I guess this
Newest League show that he had ridden the

805
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:08.199
uh Epstein plane thirty plus times.
So I thought that was interesting because this

806
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:13.519
guy's connected to all kinds of people
and you just look at the guy and

807
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:17.639
he's got weasel written all over him. So thirty plus times, dude,

808
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:23.360
and people were saying that, well, they're alleging and I haven't read this,

809
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:30.039
so I don't know, but that
he was basically the I guess,

810
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.639
the contact man for Mosad in Epstein. You know, he was kind of

811
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:37.920
like the middle man. I don't
know if that's true, but it would

812
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:40.840
make sense, I guess. And
I just last, like, I just

813
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.920
I don't know how big the island
was or anything like that, but I

814
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:50.679
mean, I guess, like I
don't know. I just struggle like that

815
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.440
it remained under wraps so long that
this operation was able to just continue to,

816
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.480
you know, grow and grow and
grow. It's amazing. And then

817
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:01.679
why and ended? You know,
why did it get why shut it down?

818
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:06.320
Did it lose its purpose? Like
why did they even let it end

819
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:08.920
come out this way? You know, I wonder, like what's the purpose

820
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:13.679
of that of releasing this information?
Because you know that if they wanted to,

821
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:15.679
it wouldn't have to release and you
know they you would never find out

822
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.639
about it, you know, right, yeah, they would just laugh it

823
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.519
off like, oh, this is
like stupid, whatever you want whatever,

824
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:27.440
you know exactly. Yeah, that's
a great question. You know, have

825
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:31.159
you seen it's old now, but
that footage of that. She was either

826
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:37.199
I think she was NBC or maybe
ABC, but the yeah, ABC.

827
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.559
Yeah, and she's talking about how
she was trying to get them to put

828
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:45.719
that information out. She's talking off
air, you know. She yeah,

829
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:50.159
she like three she had the information
like three years earlier. Yeah, yeah,

830
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.320
she she was so pissed, and
I think she got her fired.

831
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.760
I'm pretty sure I think they fired
her. Yeah. Yeah. And dude,

832
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.199
well and Cindy McCain, she,
you know, she's like, oh,

833
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:05.039
we all knew that this was going
on, and you know, it's

834
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:08.199
like what you say something, And
I so I wonder now where what's replaced

835
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:13.320
because obvious there's you know, does
Bohemian Grove still happen? Do they still

836
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:15.400
hold Bohemian Grove? You know,
as far as I know, they do,

837
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.079
But I haven't heard anything about it
in the last couple of years.

838
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.960
Maybe it's just because all the other
stuff going on. Yeah, yeah,

839
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.760
because I was so I wonder,
like what's taking its place, you know,

840
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:29.360
because like something has to or you
know, like there's still or again,

841
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.440
maybe they just can do it more
in art like artistic forms like you

842
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:36.400
know, and that's and that's it. It doesn't need to be you know,

843
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.960
as hidden because you can just do
it as art. And you know

844
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:45.079
because even like with Larry King and
that whole you know, the Franklin scandal

845
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:50.639
and stuff like that. You know, it's like something has to if I

846
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.199
would like they don't just stop.
You know, maybe it's in those tunnels

847
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:59.800
to those that they're digging at the
synagogue. I bet there's tunnels under Bohemian

848
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.760
right, I'm sure there. I'm
sure there are, dude, well a

849
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:07.239
lad and then also I saw it
Mark. Then again we'll end it.

850
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:13.000
But Mark Zuckerberg is building that huge
bunker. Did you see that. I've

851
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.159
seen like headlines, but I haven't
delved into it, Like I didn't know

852
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:20.239
if it was just people saying that
or it's like a real thing. No,

853
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:22.800
it's a real thing, dude.
He built It's like it was like

854
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:29.519
a billion dollar in like it costs
a billion dollars something like insane to he

855
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.119
built like this, you know,
like a doomsday bunker. And you know,

856
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:37.440
and Jeff Bezos, I think he
has one somewhere. I forget where

857
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.519
he has his and oh and like
at the and then at the bottom of

858
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:45.280
like Bezos put at the bottom of
his bunker. He put like this clock

859
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:50.480
that will outlast humanity. You know, it costs like millions of dollars to

860
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.719
build. But I want, you
know, like what's going to happen in

861
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:58.440
twenty twenty four. You know,
something's something's bubbling that all these people are,

862
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.719
you know, they're letting this information
out and they're they're building this these

863
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:08.639
things. Well, I've seen some
and I haven't delved into it, so

864
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:13.800
I don't know all the details.
But there's some kind of cabitalistic prediction about

865
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:18.719
the year twenty five. So I
want to look into that, something about

866
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:21.800
like it's going to be the year
the Messiah, you know, the mushiak

867
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:28.440
the Messiah comes and no dude,
yeah, so and you know what happens

868
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:34.039
then we convert. So well it's
it's just going to get crazier and crazier.

869
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:38.519
I guess. I guess that's the
what we what we have to look

870
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:44.800
forward to is more chaos and more
fighting and uh, you know, last

871
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.719
thing, who's who is? Uh? Who's Okay? I don't know if

872
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.159
you saw the clip, Trump like
said he was going to pick his VP

873
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:54.719
and and he know or he knows
who he's going to pick his his VP,

874
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:57.800
and but he went tell on air
did you see that clip on fire?

875
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.639
I didn't see that, Okay,
Yeah, So they said, do

876
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:02.800
you know who you're gonna pick?
And he says, I know, yes,

877
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.800
I know, but I can't tell
you. So who do you think

878
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:11.599
he's gonna he's gonna choose as as
VP. I'm gonna say Nikki Haley?

879
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:15.920
Because do you think nik I mean
they on one, you know, they

880
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.199
kind of seem to hate each other
sort of or be the big I don't

881
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:26.840
know, but like they were,
they were saying that she's polling like close

882
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.840
to what Trump is. No way, Yeah, I've seen these like yeah,

883
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:35.079
these headlines. I haven't looked into
it, but like she's so unlikable

884
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.719
that I find that hard to be
true. But they're both so tiedy in

885
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.400
with you know, a pac in
that, you know, the Israel lobby

886
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:47.320
and stuff like that that I feel
like if she is polling that high,

887
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.639
he's gonna want to take her with
him, and then they have that double

888
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:56.679
bill and the Santas wouldn't have a
shot in hell, dude, I could

889
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:00.679
not see him. I don't know, I don't probably not old prediction.

890
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:04.239
That's a bold prediction because I cannot
see. I don't. I want to

891
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:08.559
say it might be vivic, but
I don't. I don't know, though.

892
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:12.559
I don't know, though that would
be pretty good idea because he's charismatic,

893
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.280
so but he's such and he's such
a scumbag too, like, oh

894
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.599
yeah, he's done that. You
know that billion dollar far he pumped up

895
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:21.119
these prices and for a drug that
I don't even think it worked. I

896
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:25.840
think it was like a pump and
dumb scam docks, you know. I

897
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:28.360
think I don't know if he was
he worked at the farm company, or

898
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.000
he's just a hedge fund. I
don't. I can't remember remember what his

899
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.679
association was with the farmer company.
I don't. I can't. I don't.

900
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.920
I don't know, if you know, I don't never know. No,

901
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:43.000
But yeah, I know doctor Shiva. You know, he kind of

902
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:49.000
goes balls out and and he hates
him so bacause they've seen him just lambast

903
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:54.320
and it's hilarious. Dude. I
love how he says he's the creator of

904
01:06:54.360 --> 01:07:00.000
email. Yeah, like and like, dude, maybe if you were maybe

905
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.880
maybe you were the creator of email, doctor she or whatever. But you

906
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:06.320
know, he just says that all
the time, and it's like, well,

907
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:11.719
the word the Wikipedia doesn't say that, dude. Okay, you know,

908
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:15.679
like you may have created email,
but I'm sorry, dude, Like

909
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:19.400
you know, you got like it's
a cringe. It's so cringe that every

910
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:25.800
show or that's like how he titled
himself the creative Email. Yeah, that's

911
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:29.320
not a good lug man come up
to embarrassed. You know, it's embarrassing.

912
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:31.760
But well, I man, thank
you for doing the show with me,

913
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:36.079
Dude, I appreciate it. It
was good to be back, you

914
01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:39.559
know it was. It was very
kind of you to do it. We

915
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.199
I thought it went pretty well with
having zero idea of what I was going

916
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:45.480
to talk about, what we were
going to talk about. So if anyone

917
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.760
wants to where can they find you? Odd Man? Follow you, listen

918
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:51.960
to you, all those good things. Yeah, man, thank you,

919
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:56.079
it's been great to be back with
you. And I hope that this year,

920
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.679
I hope that we do a lot
more shows together. Yes, yes,

921
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:02.360
yes, yeah. You can find
me at Underscore the odd Man out

922
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:09.440
on Twitter and Instagram and I've got
a link tree in the profile and the

923
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:15.079
show you can find on podbean.
It's the odd Man Out dot Podbean dot

924
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:19.359
com, and uh yeah, I
took the the odd It's no longer called

925
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:25.319
the odcast. I'll still call it
that, but it's not officially called that

926
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:28.359
because it was a confusing people,
you know, and I thought let's just

927
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:32.000
call it the odd Man Out because
nobody can find the long time because it

928
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:36.119
was yeah, because it used to
be the odd Man or the odcast with

929
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:40.800
the odd Man Out right something like
that, the Oddcast featuring the odd Man

930
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.119
Out. Too long. People couldn't
find it, so right, right,

931
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:46.079
I didn't know you changed the title. Dude, Well that was probably smart,

932
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.920
you're because you're right, that is
kind of long and it was hard.

933
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:54.000
It's too many odds in there,
right exactly? So what so what's

934
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.600
it at? So what the name
is now? The odd Man Out?

935
01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.760
Yeah, all right, the odd
Man Out. You guys can listen to

936
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.359
odd Man there. Thanks for everybody
in the chat, and I am I'm

937
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.760
Jack Allen. Conspiracy or just a
coincidence, and I might be doing a

938
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:14.760
show Sunday night with Bob and Nick
Hinton, so we'll see. But thanks

939
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.279
for all the people that were in
the chat, and it was nice seeing

940
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:24.479
everybody, and we'll talk soon take
care peace well, Thanks dude, thanks for doing