WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.839 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 2 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:11.839 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are 3 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:15.919 get off our show, idiot, the kids are playing or turn off. 4 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:20.160 The countries are screwing it up. Goldplay inter Murals, Brother, Goldplay inter 5 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:25.079 Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's 6 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:29.480 the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? 7 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:43.439 Here's nick coffee? All right, ladies and gents, Welcome in to 8 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:47.520 another edition of Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven 9 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:55.439 Sports Talk seven ninety and I just completely Sports Talk seven, but it's a 10 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.520 radio host. Yeah, it was, it was something. It was something. 11 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:00.399 I don't know what that was like it was I was kind of like 12 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.680 briefly blocked out or something. But I'm good to go. I guess better 13 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.319 to get that out of the way at three oh one rather than, you 14 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.719 know, in the middle of an interview or something like that. But let's, 15 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:12.840 again, as mentioned, get it started. And I can't tell you 16 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:15.799 what station this says. This is Sports Talk seven ninety and again it's coffee 17 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.000 and Company, fueled by Thornton's My name is Nick Coffee. The company man 18 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:26.439 John all In alongside today on a muggy, moist, humid Thursday afternoon, 19 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:29.920 it's swamp ass. See is it just me? Or is it? Is 20 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:33.879 it like sticky out there? It is sticky yesterday too because the temperature is 21 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:38.920 not that bad. It was like seventy five yesterday i left it. It's 22 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.640 amazing how weather. You know, how mother nature is, you know how 23 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:48.799 she operates. Because my son plays t ball at the Blue not Blue Lick, 24 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.480 that's where it's that doesn't exist anymore. That's where I played t ball 25 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:53.120 for you know, four games and quit when I was a little kid. 26 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.319 But he plays at Okolona Optimist, which is right behind Southern High School, 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:02.359 and it looked like it was about to storm the entire way on my way 28 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.680 there. He played at six o'clock. I got there at like six twenty 29 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:10.039 and during the game looked like it was about to storm and never did. 30 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.879 And then sure enough, and you go a mile down the road and it 31 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:19.599 looks as if as if it's monsooned out there. So you know, after 32 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.840 that, it kind of cooled off a little bit. But this I think 33 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.520 this humidity, this moisture out there, it's because rain's on the way. 34 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.240 So if you are at the PGA Championship out of Valhalla, enjoy yourself, 35 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:31.159 because I don't know if you're going to be there tomorrow. I mean you 36 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.199 could be, but they may be having some weather delays because I believe it's 37 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.439 supposed to thunderstorm all day tomorrow. So the fomost kind of wore off. 38 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.960 John like, I'm glad people are enjoying it, But now that it's actually 39 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.360 going on, meeting the PGA Championship, I hope everybody's enjoying it. Again. 40 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:47.800 It's a big git for the city to host these kind of events. 41 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:52.680 A lot of eyeballs on Louisville, and by all accounts of those who cover 42 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:55.879 golf will really just cover sports in general. Right, It's not just golf, 43 00:02:55.919 --> 00:03:00.199 right, We've got I mean, ESPN has a lot of their op 44 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.599 talent here doing their daily shows because there, of course, you know, 45 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.800 mixing in coverage of the PGA Championship. But now that it's here and everybody's 46 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.800 enjoying it, it's just a reminder to me that, like I don't know 47 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:14.360 anything about it, I'm hearing. I'm hearing like score updates, all these 48 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:15.319 updates, and I'm like, okay, yeah, I don't know what it 49 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:19.520 means. I saw Scotty Scheffler eagled on his opening hole, I believe, 50 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.599 right, Yeah, And apparently is it Scotty Scheffler. I mean, he's 51 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.759 the guy that apparently has been on fire entering this in this tournament. But 52 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:29.280 there's somebody else who I guess is off to a great start. It might 53 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.479 be Scheffler, but I feel like it was a different name, one that 54 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.120 you know, wasn't the you know, wasn't Tiger. Obviously he's not going 55 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:36.400 to be a real contender here, at least he's not supposed to be. 56 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.479 So yeah, hopefully everybody's enjoying it. But we were actually potentially gonna have 57 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:45.560 the show. That was the initial plan was to do the show there today 58 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:50.800 and tomorrow, which you know didn't end up going through, which is good 59 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:57.240 because you know, I really would have felt unworthy of being there, not 60 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:59.879 only you know, not not only because I'm not a big golf guy, 61 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.680 like you know, when you're broadcasting from that kind of event, you would, 62 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:06.319 you know, I have I have a fear of being you know when 63 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.759 I'm on location somewhere at like an event, which do happened that often? 64 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.840 Like usually if I'm doing a remote, it's at a business or somebody we're 65 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:15.199 partnered with or something like that, or I'm traveling, which I guess you 66 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:20.000 wouldn't call that a remote. But back in my earlier days of radio, 67 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:25.879 probably ten years ago roughly, I ended up doing a show at a golf 68 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:30.079 course in Bullet County. What is the name of that golf course that's right 69 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:31.560 off Cedar Grove? That Heritage Hills? Is that what that? No, 70 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.839 that's Heritage Chills. Is Indiana. There's two different ones. There's an Indiana 71 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:40.199 Heritage Chills and there's there's a Heritage Hills golf course. Imagine be Heritage Hill 72 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.160 without the yes at the end. Okay, either way, we did the 73 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.519 show there. It was Yeah, it is Heritagechill, It's and it was 74 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.680 it was great, Like it was a I mean, just another show. 75 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:54.600 I was on different station at the time, on from I believe at that 76 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:58.240 time I was on from like five to seven, and we were set up 77 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.240 there and I think we already had some kind of a relationship, like business 78 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:06.720 wise with the golf course. Itself, but they were doing the Topper Tour 79 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:11.800 or something like that. In Louisville. They have the they used to have 80 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.639 the Cardinal Caravan where there'd be these events in different places in different areas and 81 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.879 they'd bring a handful of coaches and players, kind of like a little many 82 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:23.439 pep rally for alumni. Indiana does win at Huber's what do they call that, 83 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.120 Like, they have these events where India. I don't know the name 84 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.399 of it, but it's been at Hubers for years. And he used to 85 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.519 do one another location. Yeah, yeah, they do them. They do 86 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:31.480 them all over the place, but the one, I think the closest one 87 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:36.480 to Louisville, yes, was Hubers. So anyways, WKU was doing one 88 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:44.759 of those things and the coach can think give his name, maybe not McDonald, 89 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:48.199 ray Harper. Ray Harper was the coach at WKU basketball at that time, 90 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:54.000 and we weren't there to cover that event, but that was going on 91 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.199 while we were there doing the show, and I don't remember who was working 92 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.399 WKU media relations at the time, but they thought we were there to cover 93 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:06.399 it. And I'm live on the air, probably talking about nonsense like I 94 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:12.720 typically do, and the s I d for WKU basketball, walks up and 95 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.920 sits Ray Harper next to me, and you know, we just got back 96 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.120 from a break. I know that that's Ray Harper. Glad me they'd have 97 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.680 brought me another coach. I would not have known who it was, so 98 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:26.240 I kind of just you know, if that happened now, I would have, 99 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.720 I guess the courage to say, you know, just to say I 100 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:30.959 would I would tell them to wait till the breaks. I would. I 101 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.560 would tell whoever is producing, like tell them that, like I don't know 102 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.480 what they're doing, Like tell them we need, you know, we need 103 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:38.600 a segment here and then we can regroup and figure out what's going on, 104 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.959 because I think there's there's some confusion going on here. But I just you 105 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:43.680 know, sat there and felt like, Okay, well, I guess I'm 106 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.279 gonna interview Ray Harper. And I didn't you know, he didn't. He 107 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:50.279 didn't seem eager to you know, it wasn't like he was using this as 108 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:56.279 an opportunity to really pitch WKU basketball to my listeners. You know, he 109 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.199 looked like he just got drug over there by his sid to sit down and 110 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.519 do an interview. Kind but he wasn't like real energetic. He didn't know 111 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:06.480 me, and I probably made it very clear during the conversation that I didn't 112 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:10.199 know him. I mean I knew of him and I know basketball a little 113 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:15.399 bit. But I remember they brought in George Phant, who was a pretty 114 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:19.560 big time recruit out of Bowling Green, played at Warren Central, ended up 115 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:24.600 having a good career there WKU, and ended up now he's an NFL offensive 116 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.680 lineman. He made the switch to football. So anyways, I remember covering 117 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.839 the Derby Classic like two weeks prior and George Fant was a part of that, 118 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.680 and I think I asked him like five questions about specifically about George Fant, 119 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.000 the incoming freshman. He might have brought back an All American. I 120 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.240 didn't know that, but that's all I had. That's the only thing I 121 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.360 had in the back for the interview, is to ask about the one player 122 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:45.399 I knew that was on his team. I mean, I didn't know a 123 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:47.800 lot about his background, like where he came from. So it was probably 124 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.720 one of the worst interviews I've ever done. And I always get fear when 125 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:56.720 I'm at when I'm at an event that like they think because you know this, 126 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.759 John, You've worked with me long enough. I don't I don't want 127 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:01.279 to have a guest on that I don't have any interest in talking to. 128 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.759 Now, sometimes you have to do that, but I'm not good at making 129 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.240 that in any way compelling. Like I'm not good at setting up that guest 130 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:11.120 to look great. I'm not good at faking like I have a lot of 131 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.759 interest. I mean, there's other people that do that really really well. 132 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.720 And I say that sincerely because that's that's a good skill to have, because 133 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.399 at the end of the day, entertainment is what this is. But you 134 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:28.480 know, making your advertisers look good and selling that partnership is important and I'm 135 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.080 just not That's not what I'm great at. I'm not sure if I'm great 136 00:08:31.080 --> 00:08:35.159 at anything, but I know it's not that. So I thought about doing 137 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.279 the show at Valhalla during the PGA Championship and it's going on right now, 138 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:41.360 so I doubt that they'd be throwing a guest at me. But like if 139 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:45.519 they did, like there's a I don't know, a former caddy making the 140 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.399 rounds promoting, you know, some kind and he's there on behalf of some 141 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.399 brand kind of like when they have those former NFL players do radio row at 142 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.159 Super Bowl, Like they're there, you get am eight minutes, they'll answer 143 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.559 a few questions, but of the two of the eight minutes, you got 144 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.279 to have him pimp out whatever sponsor they're they're promoting. So I'm kind of 145 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.559 glad we're not there. The FOMO were off because I now know deep down 146 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.960 I don't belong at Valhalla. Uh it's it's just not me. I'm not 147 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.639 worthy. So we're here at the studio and we're gonna have some fun today. 148 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:20.399 I'm I'm very much looking forward to it. Do you know who Ray 149 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.960 Harper is? He probably was the coach Stansburgh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 150 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:30.879 good coach. But yeah, there's there's there's a handful of memories that 151 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:35.799 I'll always that'll always be with me, and some great and you know, 152 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.279 wow that was awesome and some like wow like that that That was a moment 153 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.120 where I questioned myself, like should I be doing this? Should I just 154 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.279 go back and get my you know, go back to my real real job. 155 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.639 And that was one of them, just because I felt like so it 156 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.799 was just a bad interview and if I didn't know when I was gonna get 157 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.799 the w Q basketball coach. I would have been ready and I would have 158 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.799 you know, I'd have tried my best because I always try, and those 159 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.320 that situation. Stat's a good question that like fans of the team would want 160 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.600 to hear about when it comes to basketball, but also lighten it up a 161 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:09.000 little bit and let them kind of you know, maybe like my goal each 162 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.639 time I would interview a coach is to bring something out that they haven't expressed 163 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.320 in another interview, right, something that humanizes them a little bit and maybe 164 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.799 just you get to know them a little bit more about them as a person. 165 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.320 And I couldn't. I mean, that was I hope that doesn't exist 166 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.559 in the archives somewhere. And then another one was my first ever remote. 167 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.600 This was back in twenty and eleven. I did a remote at a like 168 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.960 a bar and grill in Oldham County. I don't think it's open anymore. 169 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.480 And I showed up. There was a show on before mine, and they 170 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:43.159 were on from I think like four three to like three to five, and 171 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.320 I was five to seven and I showed up. You know, I'm in 172 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:50.960 twenty and eleven. I'm very young, I am, because how old would 173 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.879 I be? I was born in eighty eight, twenty and eleven was I 174 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.600 let's do some math here. I feel like I have thirty three. No 175 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:05.320 three, I'm thirty five now, twenty and eleven, so yeah, so 176 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.639 fourteen yeah, so I'm thirty five now and that would have been thirteen years 177 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.799 ago, so I guess I would have been twenty two. No way, 178 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.720 Wow, Could I been that young? That sounds crazy? Why's the math 179 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.559 not math in here? Either way, I was young. I probably didn't 180 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.519 look like somebody that you would just expect to have his own radio show. 181 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.960 So I walked in and they're kind of sitting on the patio area. I 182 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:33.600 walk up to the bar and, you know, just I say, can 183 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:35.840 I get a water? Well, then lady comes out. It's like, 184 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.600 can I help you, like with something else? And I said, yeah, 185 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.399 I'm here. You know i'm here. I said, I'm here for 186 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:43.559 work, meaning like the radio show. Well, She's like, okay, 187 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:45.480 come here, come on, come on back. So I walked back, 188 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:46.679 like and I'm like, what is she gonna do. She gonna like give 189 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.720 me a tour of the place. She's going to give me a gift card. 190 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.559 She was the owner, I believe, and she handed me in apron. 191 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.360 She thought I was the new bus boy, and you know, and 192 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.840 you know that was a you know, it wasn't like a crazy uh you 193 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.000 know, she felt about two feet tall after the fact, But like, 194 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.759 how would she have known, right, Like, she wouldn't nobody know who 195 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.519 I was, and I'd probably didn't look like I mean, I probably looked 196 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.720 like somebody she would have hired for that position. But I'll never forget that, 197 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:11.360 right because I was like, well, I guess I got a long 198 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.600 way to go before, I got a long way to go before people know 199 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:16.960 who I am. And you know, when they have my have my name 200 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.120 up on the thing, like you know, sports Dtation X is going to 201 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.200 be here in this show and that show. Like I remember thinking, I 202 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.399 got a long way to go and a lot of work to put in before 203 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:30.480 anybody actually sees that and knows who the hell I am. And people probably 204 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.399 still don't know who the hell I am, and that's okay, But anyways, 205 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.159 everybody enjoyed the PGA Championship. We actually are going to check in with 206 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.600 Kent Spencer coming up today at four thirty. He's been doing some really great 207 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:43.840 coverage. I enjoyed his story. He did for WWHS eleven yesterday on Tiger 208 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.720 Woods, and how obviously he's not, you know, believed to be a 209 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.240 real threat to win this thing, but obviously he's Tiger Woods and still commands 210 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.600 a lot of attention. And I don't know if it's genuine, I assume 211 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:00.399 it is. But he now that he is a part of these events, 212 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.440 and he still moves the needle, and obviously he's going to be the most 213 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:05.919 of one of the most talked about players at every event he goes to. 214 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.279 But we all know he's not. I mean, you never count him out, 215 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.799 but like he's not. He's not at the top of his game or 216 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.759 anywhere close to it. So the fact that he's still playing and still commands 217 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.120 this attention, I thought it was a really heartfelt answer when he asks, 218 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.480 you know, he mentions, you know, twenty years later, I mean, 219 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.240 I think that's the last time he played here at Valhalla. You know, 220 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.919 he now appreciates the amount of people that are, you know, super 221 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.360 fans of his that like if they're in his presence, like it's something they're 222 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.519 going to remember for the rest of his life because he's been doing this a 223 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.080 long time. And again, he still moves the needle like nobody else. 224 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:43.320 But it's just because he's a larger than live star and that's and that's really 225 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.840 it. So again we'll talk to Kit coming up here at about four thirty. 226 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.080 All right, so let's start, I guess with a little bit of 227 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:56.320 a recap from yesterday's events, because we had back to back days. And 228 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.440 I say events, I mean, like, you know, I guess they're 229 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.799 probably not considered events. But you know, Pat Kelsey land in recruits, 230 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.279 that's you know, to me, that's an eventful thing. And it started 231 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.519 with Case and pryor sort of out of nowhere on Tuesday, and then yesterday 232 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.120 Kahani Roots the four star freshman, top forty, top thirty player depending on 233 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.399 where you look, he committed. And this really really is is an example 234 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:26.200 for me as to how different we look at freshmen now because you know, 235 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.679 he's a top you know again in all the like, he's one of the 236 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.559 top thirty five. I think he's thirty first in the twenty four to seven 237 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:39.440 Sports Composite rankings, which that's what I mean. Let me just give you 238 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.519 some context here. And people are excited about him, trust me, like 239 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:45.840 they are. But now that people now just question. Okay, this is 240 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.639 great, but like it's kind of a one year investment, right because the 241 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.600 portal he could leave in any moment and we'll see if he's ready to contribute 242 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.960 right away like that. It's just we look at it differently now. So 243 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.639 I don't want to position this as if fans kind of don't care that they 244 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.399 landed a good recruit. But he's the eighth highest ranked incoming freshman to ever 245 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.440 commit and sign with Louisville. And I feel like if you'd have said that 246 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:09.080 a few years ago, it would have it would have been all anybody's talking 247 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.240 about around town. And yes, the situation here is just, you know 248 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.440 different. You have a new coach and you have an entire new team, 249 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.879 so you know, it's just different. And as much as he is a 250 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.440 highly ranked guy, you know, it's not Jaden Quains with Jayden Quains. 251 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:26.879 That would have been different because he is, you know, in the eyes 252 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:28.919 of some the number. You know, he's like the top top five, 253 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.519 top six player in the country. And he was committed to Kentucky. You 254 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:35.360 know, clearly everybody wanted him. With Ruthsip is different. He was committed 255 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.879 to Michigan, got out of his letter because Juan Hyard was fired and really 256 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.039 Louisville kind of appeared in the last few weeks to be the real threat to 257 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:48.320 land him, and that's what happened. But this kind of commitment years prior, 258 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.440 it would have been all anybody was talking about. And now it's kind 259 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:54.159 of like, okay, yeah, another nice, good piece. We'll see 260 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.759 if he can play, like we'll see if he can maybe crack the rotation. 261 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.639 Because now it's I mean again I talked to this yesterday. You have 262 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:11.120 the ability now to choose not to rely on young players anymore, and most 263 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:17.279 coaches understandably so choose not to because it's more of a risk. So I 264 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:18.559 think he's gonna have a chance to crack the rotation and play. He's six 265 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.679 's eight two oh five. Pat Kelsey seems to have a type, and 266 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.039 what I mean by that is skilled and versatile. I think you could put 267 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.200 him on the wing. He could be a stretch four for you, you 268 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:30.120 know, heck, you could maybe make him. I mean, I don't 269 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.360 know if he's a guard, but he seems to be somebody that is highly 270 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:37.080 skilled for a guy with that size, so you know he'll he'll have some 271 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.559 tough competition because he's going to be competing against grown men. But I love 272 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:47.080 the idea of you taking a freshman, one guy coming in and you know, 273 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:48.240 it's not just any freshman. He's one of the best freshmen in the 274 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.840 country as far as these rankings go. And he's going to be playing around 275 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.000 a lot of grown men. So I think that's going to be a good 276 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.840 culture for him to come in and really learn from guys who've been doing this 277 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.720 for quite some time. And you know, maybe I'm just a nerd for 278 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.680 this kind of stuff, but like I think these guys who've played at James 279 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:15.039 Madison, who have played at Long Beach State, even College at Charleston, 280 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.440 Like, if this thing is rolling next year and you've got eighteen thousand at 281 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:25.400 the UMP Center, like those guys will I hope be really like blown away 282 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.920 by that and seeing like what a program like this can be when things are 283 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:33.000 thriving. And I think it'll be good for I think Kahani Ruz to see 284 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.960 like, Okay, I'm at a pretty special place, so a big addition, 285 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:38.880 no doubt. In fact, I'm looking at it right now. Maybe 286 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:44.319 this is an example as to why we shouldn't you know, rely on these 287 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.079 rankings as much as we do, which I know we shouldn't, but we 288 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.240 do. Smarto. Samuel's a number one player ever that committed. He was 289 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:52.400 the number one player in the country, and he was a good college player. 290 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:53.960 But like you know, I don't know if people would say that, 291 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.839 like you got your bank for your buck by landing the high school player of 292 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.599 the year. And I hate that they include these guys. But Sebastian Telfair's 293 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.720 number two, and he never played here, went to the NBA. Number 294 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:11.359 three, Samuel Williamson loved Sam but man that never came close to being accurate 295 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.920 as far as like his upside. Brian Bowen never played here. Trenton Flowers 296 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.960 never played here, Dennis Evans kind of played here for a minute or two. 297 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.039 Mer Johnson never played here, went to the NBA. And then it's 298 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.240 Kahani Russ. So after him, it is Shane Bhannon, who had a 299 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.680 really good career here and was part of a national championship team. Number ten 300 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:37.359 VJ. King VJ King is like, in my opinion, one of the 301 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.920 I don't want to I think there's a difference in being a bust in being 302 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.599 like way over like VJ was just overrated. He wasn't a bud, Like 303 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.599 he wasn't as if he couldn't play. He just wasn't nearly as good as 304 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.599 everybody thought he would be. Wayne blackshere number eleven. This is what pisses 305 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.799 me off, Like people would say that VJ is the new Wayne, and 306 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:02.119 that makes me want to punch something. Because Wayne black Sheer scored over a 307 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:06.599 thousand points, played for some of the most successful program most successful teams Lois 308 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.400 had my lifetime, and was a starter on a national championship team. Like 309 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:12.400 I don't mean, did he make the NBA, did he become an All 310 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:18.559 American? No? But like the disrespect Wayne used to get was just mind 311 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.400 boggling to me, So is he? You know, would people guess that 312 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.599 he's one of the highest ranked guys to ever commit here, maybe because they 313 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.599 knew the hype he had coming out of high school and he you know the 314 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:33.119 did the results necessarily match what you thought you were getting? I don't know. 315 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.119 I guess that's up for you to decide. However, you know, 316 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.000 he also played and was productive with guys like Russ Smith on his team and 317 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.880 Luke Hancock and Peyton Siva and Gorky Jang and Shane Behan, and so you 318 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.400 know, if Wayne would have been sort of the guy on a on a 319 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:51.480 team that's not close to that good, he might have put up twenty five 320 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.039 a game, but he played with some of the best players we've ever had 321 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:57.519 here. Number twelve, totally overrated guy, I mean, just wasn't nearly 322 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:03.359 as good as anybody thought. Malik Willilliams thirteen Tchaikuan airon Total Bust, couldn't 323 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.119 play here, went to USC wasn't very good there either. Donovan Mitchell number 324 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:08.680 fourteen, I'd say that when worked out, and I'd say he probably belongs 325 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:14.759 to be a lot higher. Number fifteen is Brian Harvey, a guy who 326 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.400 I would say is one of them. I mean, he was a big 327 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:22.880 time recruit. He couldn't play here, transferred transferred out after I think maybe 328 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.839 one or two years, and then I later played against him in a men's 329 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.200 league game and he tried to fight me. True story, I wouldn't have 330 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.839 done well in the fight. He's six five, two hundred pounds, built 331 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:34.240 like an NBA two guard, but his game didn't match that at all. 332 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.240 But yeah, how about that? True story? Did you instigate. Who 333 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.319 oh, I mean, I probably instigated a little bit of a I probably 334 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.640 instigated some things as far as maybe saying some stuff, having some attitude that 335 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:47.960 made him mad. But trust me, I'm an idiot, but I'm not 336 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:49.720 that big of an idiot to try to get in a fight with somebody like 337 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.359 that. But once I get him that hot that, I know I'm under 338 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.200 their skin. And you know, I never crossed the line to where I'm 339 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.440 like, you know, prepared to get beat up after the game in the 340 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.279 parking lot. But yeah, I mean I played with a little flair, 341 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:04.240 as they say, which I don't know if people say that, but my 342 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.759 coach used to say that I play with Flair, not Rick Flair. But 343 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:12.680 you know, like I guess some SaaS. I remember one time, my 344 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:15.640 grandmother she used to come to all my games and if I was you know, 345 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:19.480 if I was talking trash to the other team or you know, just 346 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.759 kind of there was one of those moments where I was a little mouthy, 347 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.279 or maybe I was mouthed off to the ref and got a technical. My 348 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.440 grandmother would ask me after the game why I was being so sassy, which 349 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.960 I always thought that was funny. So I'm glad Louisville ind to Kahani Russ 350 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:38.079 And right now, right now as we speak, unless you know the reporting 351 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.680 has been incorrect, Noah Waterman is visiting Louisville, or at least he's on 352 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.200 his way here. So I mean it sounds like because of the relationship with 353 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:51.839 Ali Khalifa, his teammate at BYU, and because there was clearly some mutual 354 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:56.319 interest that was expressed in some former fashion prior to him entering the portal a 355 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.519 few days ago. I mean, I think Louisville is in the driver's seat 356 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:03.119 and he would be a big time pickup. And as far as that last 357 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:07.119 spot, let's say Waterman does end up committing, I think Ugo is still 358 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.240 you know, on the board. But as we discussed the other day, 359 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.839 I'm thinking to myself, you know what, if you've got one spot, 360 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:19.759 what's the best sell right like? What is like what position would you be 361 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:23.599 able to really attract interest from because they could see a path to them having 362 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:30.160 a role, And it's point guard because you can put Corn Johnson at the 363 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.359 one. But chuckiy Hepburn is gonna run your team. He's gonna be your 364 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.440 point guard and he's gonna be the guy that plays probably as many minutes or 365 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:37.880 more minutes than anybody else. But after that, you know, you need 366 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.640 somebody that can give him a break if he gets in foul trouble or just 367 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.599 you know, to get him some rest. And now it sounds like Louisville 368 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.799 is in the mix for Elijah Crawford, who is also a freshman to be 369 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:53.039 part of the twenty twenty four class. He was committed to Stanford, got 370 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.960 out of his letter of intent and is now you know, talking to a 371 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:02.400 handful of schools, including camps by U, Louisville, Wake Forest, And 372 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:03.480 I don't know if he's going to visit Louisville, but he went to Brewster 373 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:07.359 Academy, which is where Donovan Mitchell went. So maybe Donovan could uh, 374 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.680 you know, make a phone call and and really sell Louisville because the kid, 375 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.839 you know, six' to one, you know, he's a four 376 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:18.200 star point guard. Not a guy that's ranked nearly as high as as ruth'sys, 377 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:21.240 but still a guy that I think, you know, to me, 378 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.440 I mean, it took me a while to kind of realize that, but 379 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.000 I think that I don't want to say like it's a weakness, because again, 380 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:29.279 I think you can play Corn Johnson at the one, and he's shown 381 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.079 that he can he can distribute, but I think a backup point guard would 382 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.359 be would be ideal. And again I think you can You know you're recruiting 383 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.680 freshman differently than you're recruiting transfers. All right, let's get to a quick 384 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:41.799 break here, a lot that we need to get into the rest of the 385 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.440 way. Here, We've got some sound from Pat Kelsey from the ACC meetings 386 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.839 earlier this week, which I think will make you fall in love with him 387 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.599 even more than you already are, you know, if you're a Louisville fan. 388 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:59.640 And he posted a picture last night that I have questions about. So 389 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.480 we'll get to that. Kentucky Land at another commitment from the portal, giving 390 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.880 them a little more depth, And at some point, I want to talk 391 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:11.720 about something that I believe is a uncomfortable conversation for a lot of people, 392 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:18.440 understandably so, and that's gratuity tipping at restaurants. I'll save that though, 393 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:23.680 because I've got some thoughts to share and I'm done with hiding the way I 394 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.160 feel about tipping. I'm just going to lay it all out there, John, 395 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.880 you join you, all right, let's do it Coffee and Company. 396 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:34.000 Fel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. This is the Kanye 397 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.359 West that I was really, really a big fan of good stuff here. 398 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.880 I feel like most people enjoy the college drop out late registration era, and 399 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:47.599 Kanye clearly others that really enjoy the later stuff. I'm just not one of 400 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.759 them. And I feel like he's always been a really creative artist and he's 401 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.000 a to me, he seems like he's lost his mind as of late, 402 00:24:55.599 --> 00:25:02.559 but I remember really getting it, like gosh, it's probably been no joke 403 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:06.519 twenty years. But at the time he started becoming you know, mainstream relevant, 404 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:08.720 I remember thinking to myself, like, this guy's like super creative, 405 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.079 Like you know, I can't really like he's He's very unique. Like there 406 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:17.440 wasn't somebody that I would find myself like comparing him to. And you know, 407 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.599 sometimes when I'm at the gym and yes, I know you can tell 408 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:25.480 i'll do workout, I'll just hit like two or three Kanye songs on the 409 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:29.920 on the shuffle within like you know, twenty thirty minutes, and I'm reminded, 410 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.359 like, man, this was this was really good stuff. Speaking of 411 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:36.599 good stuff, it's coffee and company here fiel By Thornton's on Sports Talk seven 412 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.680 ninety. 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It's speaking of vacation again. 430 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:38.240 Reminder I'm out next week and uh, I'm getting I'm getting a little 431 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.240 slap happy. And I don't know if I've told you this yet, John, 432 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.119 we have not. The kids don't know Whe're going, Oh yeah, 433 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.200 that's cool, So we'll surprise trip. So they love the you know, 434 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:53.119 they love the airport, and they love being on planes. They haven't flown 435 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.400 a lot, but they really they think it's cool. And they see airplanes 436 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.359 in the sky and my son's obsessed with with airplanes. So what we're gonna 437 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:06.880 do is we actually leave Monday, Monday afternoon or early like mcnon I think. 438 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.160 So we're you know, school is at school ends for my daughter on 439 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.200 Friday. Tomorrow's our last day of school. So uh, they're gonna get 440 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.640 up and kind of go to do their normal routine like Moose is gonna go 441 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.920 to daycare. My daughter, I think on Monday, she's gonna be with 442 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.720 my mother in law, and then we're just kind of going to arrive and 443 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.319 get them not that long. What we're gonna do is go home. We're 444 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.079 gonna do a little pre packing and then load up the car after we drop 445 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:30.039 them off, and then go pick them up and tell them where we got 446 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.519 a surprise, and then they'll see where we're going, you know, to 447 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.359 to the airport and be excited. Then I'm assuming we'll tell them then then 448 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.240 we're going to the beach. So in a weird way like that has been 449 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.880 the thing I'm most excited about about the trip is to surprise them, so 450 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.519 hopefully they are. They're they're happy and pleased with it, and we've probably 451 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:53.240 had I guess, I mean, Mays'll be three in a couple of weeks, 452 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:59.480 so and because my vacation has always you know, I try not to 453 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.960 take any big trips or take a lot of time off for really about eight 454 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.880 months out of the year whence football starts up until basketball ends, like I 455 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.319 rarely take many days off, certainly not a full week. So he's been 456 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.200 on a handful of trips despite you know, only being three years. I 457 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.799 say he'll be three before. So anyways, my kids are just better behaved 458 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.240 when we travel. I don't know what it is, maybe because they're just 459 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.599 there, they've got you know, they're drunk on the excitement of you know, 460 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:29.759 being on vacation. But one day that may backfire. But like we 461 00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:30.799 look back at all of our trips we've gone on, and you know, 462 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.319 my kids are usually pretty well behaved overall. But like we just have such 463 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.440 a good time when we have our family trips because you know, it's it's 464 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.960 what it's for rest, relaxation, all that kind of stuff. So looking 465 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.400 forward to it, and again, you'll be in good hands when I'm when 466 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.920 I'm out. So Kentucky, they have landed another commitment in the portal and 467 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.359 I don't you know, i'd be a'd be a fool to try to tell 468 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.480 you all, like I know much about this guy, but I do know 469 00:28:55.759 --> 00:29:02.200 that his name is Annsley Almonor and he's coming from fairly. Dickinson averaged sixteen 470 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:06.480 points, five boards, and thirty two minutes per game last year, so 471 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.680 I guess it's just a depth piece for them. I doubt that is somebody 472 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.960 that is going to be playing, you know, a ton of minutes. 473 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.359 But you never know, Right, Kentucky's in the same situation as Louisville when 474 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.839 it comes to this debut season for their new head coach, and that is 475 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.759 the ultimate unknown, Like you just have no clue what to expect. New 476 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.839 coach, entirely new staff, and an entirely new roster. And I think 477 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.880 Kentucky fans can look at their roster and feel as if they've done a pretty 478 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:36.440 good job. And maybe this is me being a homer here, but I 479 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:41.759 kind of feel like they're missing, like they're missing a like a a like 480 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.759 a a star. And maybe that's unfair to say because I'm not really sure 481 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.440 how many stars there are in college basketball, right. And there were teams 482 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.279 that did you know, like Yukon, Yukon's gonna have dudes drafted this year. 483 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.680 Like I'm not trying to sell you that Yukon is this you know, 484 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.559 you know, blue collar team with a bunch of scrubs that just play hard 485 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.839 for the love of the game. But like who was their star, like 486 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.640 you know of some players on their team because they're great. They were one 487 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:08.720 of the best teams in the country, the best team. They just won 488 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.000 the National Chiamian ship back to back years. Some of you need like a 489 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.720 Zach Edy or a Hunter Dickinson to be really good. But like who, 490 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:21.119 I wonder who Kentucky fans would say their best player is right now. I 491 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.920 feel like a beaten Blamont Butler Junior. You think just because of the fact 492 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.880 that they played for a national championship game. He had a big shot in 493 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.200 the final four. And if it's not him, my next guest would be 494 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.599 Kirk Crisa. Maybe that's not a good choice. I feel like he's gonna 495 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.160 be a big character for them. It's because of the the attitude that he 496 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.480 kind of carries himself with and the kid who they got from Dayton, the 497 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.839 Kobe b. Yeah, he's like his numbers were impressive and there were a 498 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.559 ton of I mean, his numbers are, you know, pretty. I 499 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:49.960 mean, I don't act like he's coming in, but he was a Dayton 500 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.640 in the A ten. And he's a really good shooter. We know that 501 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.960 great catch and shoot guy. And how do you spell his last name? 502 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.400 B r E y Okay. Yeah, so he he comes to Kentucky after 503 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.000 you know, a few years. I believe at Dayton. Actually he's a 504 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:08.400 he's a five year guy. He's one of these dudes that's taking advantage of 505 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:14.720 the fifth year. So this past year he averaged eleven points and shot forty 506 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.240 nine percent from three. So again, like that's like, that's good, 507 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.079 but it's at Dayton, right, So like eleven points per game at Dayton 508 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.559 in the A ten, you know, would you expect him to probably have, 509 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.920 you know, nine eight points per game at Kentucky because of the difference 510 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.680 in competition. And I don't know, some guys thrive whenever they you know, 511 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.079 play up at a higher level. But yeah, I mean, I 512 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.640 don't they got a bunch of good players, but I don't really know like 513 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:42.559 who the guy is. And I guess you could say the same exact thing 514 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:48.519 about Louisville. But I happen to believe that Chucky Hepburn is a guy that 515 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.400 you know, you feel as if night in and night out, you're gonna 516 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.079 have a point guard that is going to maybe not be as talented, maybe 517 00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.680 not have you know, you know, a gaudy stat line like somebody else 518 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.079 should go against, but like you're not going to be outmatched that often from 519 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:08.440 that specific position. I think Trey Orr is still the most undervalued guy. 520 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:13.039 Louisville has added at this point, just because I think he's gonna be hard 521 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.880 to keep off the floor. He plays with so much energy. I mean, 522 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.319 his his numbers for a six six, six seven or actually no, 523 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.720 he's six five, but like you can play him at the four. He's 524 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.240 got a long wingspan, you know, can jump out of the gym. 525 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.160 So somebody asked me this the other day and I didn't really give it much 526 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.759 thought, But here I am doing it. The rosters for these two teams, 527 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.319 don't I don't think they're similar as far as personnel, because you know, 528 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.759 Kentucky I think is more front court built. Louisville is more. You 529 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.839 know, they got a bunch of dudes you could put two through four. 530 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.200 Kentucky, you know they don't have as many guards, although they did add 531 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.079 Crisa. So I think there's similar in the fact that they're you know, 532 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.799 they've added a lot of good college players from a variety of different levels, 533 00:32:53.799 --> 00:33:00.799 and you just hope it works out. But ready to go there yet, 534 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:01.599 because some people have asked, like, hey, who do you think, 535 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:05.200 who do you think as the better team? Who do you think would win 536 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.720 if they played today? What would the spread be and I just I mean 537 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.200 no clue. I mean no. I love the ult event, the ultimate 538 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.839 unknown, as you keep referring to, and that's what for both teams. 539 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.720 The beginning of next season is going to be so exciting from the Louisville and 540 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.720 Kentucky market of things, because there's gonna be excitement, fear, really every 541 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.960 level of anxiety and excitement will be felt from I feel like every corner of 542 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.599 the fan base, both fan bases. Sometimes it is fun to not have 543 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.079 expectations, and I don't mean where you just like don't care what happens. 544 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.920 But again it's it's you could. You could put out there what you realistically 545 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.920 expect and what you think is fair for year one for Mark Pope and Pat 546 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.400 Kelcey, and I'm sure people will do that. That's normal, but again, 547 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.160 you have no clue if that's a fair expectation because you just don't. 548 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.240 You have no I mean, you don't know what you have. And it's 549 00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.279 not just about what you have, it's how it all works together. And 550 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.880 that's where it true is the ultimate unknown, because I think you can go 551 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.759 out and put together a team and this is very unusual that you'll see both 552 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.480 programs. In fact, any program go through this. In fact, I 553 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.760 mean maybe USC's doing it because of how things played out there Arkansas. I 554 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.400 guess they did the same thing. To be honest with me, I don't 555 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.360 think they brought back anybody, did they. I don't think CAL brought back 556 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.480 a single player from Musselman's team. So you know, it happens, but 557 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.599 it takes this kind of a situation where a coach leaves and goes to another 558 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.639 school, and that happens from time to time. But as we've learned here 559 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.880 in like the mid major, guys going up to a higher level, which 560 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.760 is what with what both Pope and Pat Kelsey did, they're aware of what 561 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.480 they can do in the portal and they're not going to bring everybody from their 562 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.760 lower level team because they know they're playing at a higher level. So you 563 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.719 know, it takes a big, a big, a big fish, if 564 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.840 you will, leaving or a disastrous situation like Louisville just had where everybody wanted 565 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.519 to get out and start over. But like Musselman was a big name and 566 00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.880 he led to USC, so you know they're in a similar situation. But 567 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.760 I think you can on paper, every year find. You know, if 568 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.679 you find yourself in this situation, you can look at who you brought in, 569 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.599 where they're from, balanced roster production, and you can check all those 570 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.280 boxes. But when it's all brand new and they've never played together, that's 571 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.840 where you just have no clue. And although it's unusual, I think it 572 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.679 could be. I mean, I enjoy this, I really do. All 573 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.199 right, we need to get to a quick break. We'll come back on 574 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:28.639 the other side and let you guys hear what Pat Kelsey had to say yesterday 575 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.679 or maybe it was the day before. I think it was two days ago 576 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.440 at the ACC Spring meetings. Talked a little bit about, you know, 577 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.599 how the roster's coming together, and talked about I'll let you guys here for 578 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.760 yourself because I was going to try to, like, you know, describe 579 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.360 what he's you know, but I'll let you hear because it's and I think 580 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.920 it's an example as to why people would want to play for this guy. 581 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.360 Good salesman, no doubt. It's coffee and company. We are feel about 582 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.480 Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Can I tell you what I 583 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.599 think one of the most overused responses or just you know, things that people 584 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.280 say to one another in a text message? What is it? And I 585 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.079 do it too, I'm guilty. It's a way to like make sure that 586 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:15.679 people know that you are being not funny, but you're it's the ultimate like 587 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:21.320 okay, they're being lighthearted like they're you know, lool like like l ol, 588 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:22.920 And a text message is like a given with a lot of people. 589 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:29.039 And I do it as well, But nobody's really laughing a lot of times 590 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.239 when you say it, right, correct, So I have now I've now 591 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:37.000 started doing this if somebody sends me something rather it be just a text message 592 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:43.920 that's funny response or a you know, a meme or a video, and 593 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:49.480 it does bring genuine laughter out of me. All right back, I laughed 594 00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.199 out loud, And don't say lol. I say it because we need to 595 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:53.920 we need to separate the two. Would you say that's one of the most 596 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.519 I mean, I shouldn't say over correct. I shouldn't say that it's overused, 597 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.480 because again, I think it serves a good purpose to like because if 598 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:07.159 you just respond without any like emoji, any any flavor within your you know, 599 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.320 your text. If that makes sense, Maybe it's punctuation, Maybe it's 600 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.280 an emoji. You know, at times people can you know, if you're 601 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.000 just real direct, it doesn't mean you're being a jerk, but you never 602 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.679 know, like you could. You know, context is not always there. 603 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.840 And I think LOL helps you because he can at least you know the tone 604 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.320 of the conversation. If they throw the l lol on there, but they're 605 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.360 not really laughing, it's just to kind of, you know, keep the 606 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.159 conversation, you know, lighthearted, playful. Yeah. Fine, I don't 607 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.320 think I could have said it any better because there's a there's a certain section 608 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.079 there used to be a very I guess it was very common years ago for 609 00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.920 people to text three letter I guess like there weren't acronyms, but there was 610 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.199 IDK, there was IKr, lol obviously being one of them. But nobody 611 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.039 uses the other ones anymore, they but people still use lol. Yeah. 612 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:54.400 So my buddy Andy sent me this on Instagram and during the break and I 613 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.559 wrote him back. I said, I laughed out loud, and I hope 614 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.000 if he's listening, he knows that I when I say that, it means 615 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.199 I really like. It means I really did laugh out loud. Because this 616 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.679 is a and this I'm probably already over selling this. This isn't that funny, 617 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:07.719 but I just you know, it got a chuckle out of me. 618 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:13.920 There's this meme that has it's a it's it's a it's a Spotify playlist. 619 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.719 I'm showing John here on the scene, and it says Marvin Gaye's clueless ass, 620 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.280 and it has four titles of his songs, What's going on? What's 621 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.880 happening? Brother? When did you stop loving me? Where are we going? 622 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.400 I like, isn't that funny? Yeah, that's funny. Like those 623 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:35.480 are all songs of his, And if somebody sent me laugh out you just 624 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.119 look at those, You're like, damn, this guy. He really didn't 625 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.199 know what the hell was going on. He's clueless, and he let it 626 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:45.199 be known through his through his artistry that his music. So anyways, let's 627 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.679 let's transition here to uh to mister Pat Kelsey, which I want to get 628 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.239 to his birthday post. We'll do that in the four o'clock hour, because 629 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:58.400 I refuse to believe that was a coincidence, and again we'll talk about it 630 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:01.800 coming up here shortly. But yes to I guess two days ago he was 631 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.320 in wherever the acc Spring meetings take place. Amelia Island, Florida, I 632 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.440 believe. And he was talking about his uh, you know, he was 633 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.519 talking about the you know, the the first few months on the joss a 634 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.360 few months. He hasn't been here a few months, it's not even been 635 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.000 that long. But there's a couple of clips I wanted to play for you 636 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:22.840 guys, And here's the first one. What will you do over the next 637 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.440 couple of months to unite this team some team building? Do you have anything 638 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:29.960 in mind? Anything up your sleep? Yeah? I mean, I think 639 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.559 that's part of the secret sauce of being successful in college basketball in today's day 640 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.280 and age, because there is roster turnover, there's new parts coming in every 641 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:44.039 year, and I think a program of staff's ability to build a culture right 642 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.119 and cultivate that and grow it every single day. You know, we say 643 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.599 relentless, relentless effort, competitive excellence, and the last, but not least 644 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.000 and most important, the power of the unit. That's the uncommon commitment to 645 00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.920 a guy next to you, Right. We all have individual goals and ask 646 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.719 operations in every walk of life. We're all competitive people, but nothing can 647 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.920 be at the expense of the unit and the team and winning well. So 648 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.880 I'm sure you know if you're not, you don't care about Louis of basketball, 649 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:14.880 you're a Kentucky fan whatever, Like you're you're thinking all this guy's I 650 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.920 mean, those are corny things. That's such a cliche. And look, 651 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.440 you may be right, but he'll I think he'll give you, you know, 652 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:29.480 a line or a motto that he follows and it just sounds like what 653 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.360 a coach would say. But then when he explains it, I think, 654 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:36.599 at least for me, it helps me, you know, understand more so 655 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.559 why guys are willing to buy in and play for him. Like you know, 656 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.159 I think Pat Kelsey just from what we what we know now, and 657 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:46.760 we're gonna learn a lot about him, trust me, but I feel like 658 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.920 he is somebody that would be able to lead a group like this when you 659 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.360 have so many new pieces coming from different areas. And you know, I 660 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.760 remember we had Terrence Edwards on the show. You know, he talked about 661 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:04.320 Pat Kelsey and just how I'll you know that everything he knows about his program 662 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.320 at Charleston is that like they're all dogs, like they work for everything they're 663 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.920 going to get. There's a collective buy in from everyone and when that happens 664 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.599 and you succeed. It's good for everyone. It's good for everybody. And 665 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.480 look, it happened with him at Charleston where they did that and had success, 666 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.920 and then those guys used that success to get out of Charleston and go 667 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.239 play at a higher level. So you know, you hope that you won't 668 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.639 have to do that here at Louisville because things are going well, then you 669 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.920 won't need to, all right. The one more clip I wanted to play 670 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.760 this was actually from I think a serious sexm interview that he did while while 671 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.360 there, and this is him talking just about the guys that they've signed and 672 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.639 how the roster stands today. This is about thirty seconds and then we'll get 673 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.519 to the top of the hour break here. No, it's a monumental task. 674 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.400 Right when I took the job at the press conference, and within a 675 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.400 few days you realize that you know, you're starting over from scratch. My 676 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:55.239 staff has just done an extraordinary job, work their tails off, and we're 677 00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.360 really excited about where we sit right now. In mid May and over the 678 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.360 next couple of weeks, be able to shore some things up and finalize the 679 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.719 roster. But you know, we've you know, we've signed nine guys, 680 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.519 two of which are going to be Red Shirts, and we're really close on 681 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.000 several more. But couldn't be more excited about where the roster stands. So 682 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:22.199 when that took place, I don't think they'd sign prior or roots yet. 683 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.239 So it's getting closer to being finalized, and I wouldn't be shocked if in 684 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.280 a week or two, maybe even less than that, it's done. In 685 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.760 fact, i'd say it's less than that, just because you know guys are 686 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.119 going to start making decisions here soon. All right. We got to get 687 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.519 to the top of the hour break. Two more hours to go, so 688 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.199 stick with us right here. Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports 689 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:46.159 Talk seven ninety