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Well here we are back. Happy
Marcuss Monday. I was just talking Jason

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before we got on. Good weekend. I guess if you're a Commander's fan,

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I don't know. I mean they
still we took the Eagles here to

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overtime. I'll take that as win. We got the Bears coming up this

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week. But you know, we
can talk swift ties today if we want.

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I think everyone's a little tired about
what'll be talking some damn Canadian football

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here, gentlemen, how are we
doing? Evan back on the program,

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Evan, how are you? Yeah, I'm doing well. I know I

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missed last week unfortunately, but we're
back now. Had a couple of you

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know, good games this weekend.
I actually saw a couple of teams,

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you know, clinch playoff spots,
which is always fun, always exciting.

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So I'm happy to dive into that
here. Yeah, the Mariners can no

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longer break my heart. The fiercely
eliminated. We're done. We're done,

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They're out. It's cracking season all
the time. We have a preseason against

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and Night will be going to and
then, like I said, Commanders Threason

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and Night Football. I feel bullish
on that right now. So that to

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me, that's the end of the
season. If we can't do that.

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Jason, your bills, like you
said, dice to fish here putting up

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tremendous points. How are you feeling, Tiecats clinched ride as well, we're

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officially playoff ound Yep. Great football
weekend for me, and I mean,

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you know, one thing I wanted
to bring up to start was the passing

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of Hall of Famer George Reid,
who was one of the greatest CFL running

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backs and figures around the Canadian Football
League all time and honestly played his entire

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career for the rough Riders. Obviously, you know, me being a pretty

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young person, I didn't get to
see him play. But this guy,

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just looking at his statistics, eleven
time a thousand yard rusher in the Canadian

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Football League, I ventured that's probably
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just an incredible career for him,
and he's one of the all time

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greats. So sad to see him
go and rest in power. Yeah,

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I saw that come out. It
was late last night, right, and

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I saw Randy and everyone kind of
put that out. See, I wanted

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to make sure we talked about that
off the top of the show, a

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couple of other news items. Big
Game obviously coming up this Friday in BC

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whatever, Vancouver. I will be
in attendance there at Dorothy and I we

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have our airbnb and all that,
so we will be there making the trek

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up to BC plays for that game, leaving hopefully immediately after Dorothy school.

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So I don't know if we'll be
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I don't, you know, there's
you weird. I don't know what you

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Canadians do. You know? It's
like we're celebrating the Thanksgiving in October.

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But we'll be up there for that, so that'll be exciting. So if

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you around, say hi, we'll
be getting drinks afterwards. Evan excited to

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get to go back at you or
BC Place earlier this season. Yeah,

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I mean, you know, it's
a it's a really nice spot. I

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think you'll enjoy it, and you
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been the BC Place a couple of
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we'll cross Hamilton off the list,
hoping to get to a couple more you

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know, CFL venues, especially the
ones you know that maybe feel a bit

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more. I don't know if I
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like you know, you went to
Regina for the Great Cup and you know,

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Winnipeg. I feel like those would
all be cool spots to visit.

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So definitely on my list. I'm
hoping to get up there at some point.

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Jason Game of the Year thus far, I feel like stakes I don't

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think could be higher to me.
You know, and we'll talk, we'll

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preview the games, but I think
I don't I think BC needs that first

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place in the West. Do you
disagree, and the importance of that of

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not having to go into Mosaic,
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yeah, I definitely agree. I
think the Lions definitely need to win

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this game on Friday Night. I
mean I take it as basically, you

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know, a playoff game in and
of itself, because i mean, like

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you saw last year how difficult was
even with Nathan Roke to go in there

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and get a win at ig Field
from playoff time. So I'm really excited

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for this week's game. Yeah,
we'll talk. Liients. You know,

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it seems like they showed up this
week. You know, we had Andrew

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on the show, and I don't
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his perspective, because I know we've
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coach Rank and kind of the locker
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good to kind of see like how
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And so. Have you missed Andrew's
interview on the Friday Show? The

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other thing, this is tremendous news, I think. Yeah. To me,

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I'll respect to carry Underwood and this
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song. But Green Day here announced
Saturday. I got the email. I

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was at the aw wrestling event,
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think halftime, but the Hambleton game. I'll give my thoughts on this,

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but I'll defer to YouTube first,
since you actually are in the target demographic

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where I am no longer in the
eighteen thirty four target demo. Evan,

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what do you make of this Green
Day? I think this is tremendous.

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Yeah. I mean, look,
I'll say this much. You know,

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I wouldn't consider myself to be a
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Green Day is one of those bands
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I was growing up, you know, they were always on the radio,

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you know, I know several of
their songs. Again, and I'm not

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you know, a fan, I
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there's no denying, you know,
the impact that they've had on you know,

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music across the US, and you
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at I mean, I think they
peaked you know, back uh, you

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know, two thousands, right,
so maybe nineties. I'm not again,

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this is even getting well. I
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that eighteen to thirty four demographics,
so you can't quote me on any of

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this, but no, man,
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I think, you know, you
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a it's a very good showing.
And you know, I know that there's

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been you know, some backlash in
recent years of you know, not having

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you know, Canadian performers you know, at the at the games, but

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I completely agree read. I think
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for the Gray Cup. And I
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Green Day, you know, pop
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happened at halftime of that Hamilton Calgary
game. Yeah, and this is because

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this is was his you know,
and you're finely well, I don't even

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you know, I kind of agree
like that that's great because I'm just you're

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trying to hit all different demos here, right, and people are tired of

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the country, Like Jason, what
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it's fantastic. Honestly, the Green
Day personally is one of probably my top

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five favorite bands, like ever.
I mean, I always say, do

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they even have a bad song?
It's like they have just so many popular

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songs, and you know, they
were, you know, pretty relevant even

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recently, so I think that,
you know, it was a great get

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for the CFL halftime show. It
was funny. I was at the game

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with my buddy and he was like, any guesses for the halftime show and

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I was just randomly I was like, I don't know green Day, and

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the end a few minutes later,
I was announced as Green Day, So

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that was pretty cool. But yeah, I think it's great because they're one

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of like, you know, there's
I can't think of many bands that are

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as popular across a wide range demographics
as Green Day. I know, my

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dad even likes Green Day. All
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mean, they're very popular across the
wide age range, which is very important

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for a halftime show like this.
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was talking anyway, And I love
Bob. I love Bob Irving, friend

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of the show. He's been on, you know, Green Days. An

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American band. I don't the mishmash
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Country artist we had last year was
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I think I think that that's okay
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and you you brought up the point
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to a Lesson Jake show a couple
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They're nowhere near as obviously as popular, but you know, they've been doing

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this now thirty years, and you're
getting to the point where the people my

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age and older are bringing their kids
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it's almost like this weird circle of
like we were seeing ten year olds mosh

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pitting, and like the safest mosh
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of forty five year old dads like
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So I think it's great. I
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I think they have a CD coming
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that they're doing that. But you
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the CFL Gray Cup halftime show as
a big deal. I mean this is

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uh, you know, widely viewed
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the Gray Cup. And so I
think this is tremendous. Uh, you

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know burned, right, you guys
had Nickelback and Bieber and stuff. But

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to me, like, I don't
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I think Nickelback probably burned hotter,
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a lot longer than the nickel Back
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so Bieber, when did Bieber do
it? And was that he at the

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height of his power when Bieber was
the Gray Cup show? Was that tremendous?

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Yeah, that was a huge deal. That was the for the hundredth

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Grat Cup in Toronto, So it
was it was a huge deal in twenty

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twelve and it was justin Bieber,
Marianna's trench, Carlie Ray Jepson and I

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think it was Gordon Lightfoot of ball
people that was part of that as well.

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So it was a big deal and
they made you made it a big

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deal for that game at Roger Center. We'll well, we'll be there.

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put together a little media event here, let's get in with the Green Day.

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Maybe we can do all that stuff. So here we go Week seventeen

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here coming up. Obviously we have
our wonderful CFL stats on here. Uh,

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Jason, the Calgary Hamilton game,
you were in attendance, we had

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the announcements and kind of all that
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Saturday night? Well, I mean, first of all, from the Calgary

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perspective, I mean, this team
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you could stick a fork in them, even though they're not mathematically you know,

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eliminated yet because you know, Saskatchewan's
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own. But I just don't see
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more wins the rest of the season
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the playoffs. They just look like
a team that's completely I said lifeless at

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this point. And then from the
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the best I think I've seen the
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maybe that game at BC. I
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tremendous throughout this entire game. They
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And on offense, it was kind
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quick hook and they brought in Matthew
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throws I think it was like a
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that was really the turning point of
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at that point and then Hamilton was
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up and didn't really look back from
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really strong game from the Hamilton perspective, even though they didn't win by a

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whole bunch. Yeah, I mean, I think if you, I mean,

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this is a typical Calgary fifteen,
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more points, like I think you're
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proven. I was kind of reminded
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Jets Chiefs last night, where they're
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be able to put up twenty five
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they haven't proven that they've been able
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last night, I mean they weren't. They weren't able to do that.

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So, yeah, Evans seen your
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Did you make of Hamilton's Yeah,
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was a very a very good outing
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you know, it was nice to
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playoffs at home. I think again, you know, we there was a

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lot of a couple of weeks ago
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might have not been possible, and
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kind of you know, lock in
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and now obviously you know, I
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know, I we'll see how they
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know, some of the bigger teams
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certainly look capable. Really impressed to
get Yeah, you know with with Schiltz,

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I know you brought that up.
Really impressed with his performance, you

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know, him coming in two hundred
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you know, pretty outstanding. You
don't see that very often. I mean,

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again, a lot of big playability. I'm sure that uh, you

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know, seventy yard touchdown or whatever
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But yeah, definitely a nice performance
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you know, Jason brought up the
defense. You know, I know

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we don't we don't talk a lot
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know, guys like jamir Thurman,
will Sunderland, you know, they all

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stood out. And then yeah,
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agree with everything that's already been said. You know, I feel like Calgary,

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you know, even if they're not
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you you know, view this as
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of say that they have to win, you're you're pulling for them. They

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just can't get the job done.
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one of those years for Calgary.
Again, very very uncharacteristic for them since

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during the playoffs every year, but
it really just kind of has been one

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of those years where you know,
they're never really able to get over the

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hump. And keep in mind,
Calgary has flashed a lot of good things,

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you know, even though I think
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you know, complete, and they
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on the offensive side of the ball, where things have been you know,

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it feels like they've been really slow
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overall, you know, Calgary,
we just you know that this was a

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game where I thought they honestly had
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you know, surprise Hamilton's just because
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and you know, maybe they were
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just a bit short. So you
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uh, you know, life goes
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a time, you know that it
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and possibly be looking at you know, making some significant changes in the offseason,

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Jason, in terms of you know, Shilts coming in here, and

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obviously it's early Monday, we'll kind
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like, is that the game plan
moving forward? What did you make of

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that in terms of getting too the
playoffs here, Well, they've had some

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weird strategies the past couple of years
with their quarterbacks. I mean remember last

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year when they had at times they
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in the same game when they were
both healthy. So I mean we could

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see that like a platoon situation where
you know, Howel starts the game and

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Schiltz comes in again, and then
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forth with that and kind of ride
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and you also have to bring up
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you know, that could throw a
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it should be very interesting to see, you know, you know, who's

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going to be under center for the
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I don't. I mean, we
do this a lot like XFL.

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hand of the quarterback. I mean, Evan, did you ever see that

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working like long term? You mean
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the concept of that. Like I
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saying, because it does seem like
they've done that before. But like I

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said, we've seen that in other
leagues, Like, well, we're gonna

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use I think you gotta ride with
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out. Okay you had a bad
drive, Okay, we gotta pull You

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saw mac Joe get pulled yesterday.
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to ride or die here. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'd have

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to agree with that part of it. I mean, I think, you

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know, at the quarterback position,
you're looking for consistency, and if you're

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swapping guys in and out of a
game, you know all the time,

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you know, no one's gonna really
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things together in a complete manner like
I know in college. You know,

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one of the better examples of a
two quarterback system was Sacramento State because their

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team, you know, went to
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run at the FCS level last year
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Astro Hara. I believe in Dunaway
is actually now, you know, with

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the Ottawa Redblacks. So kind of
funny how that all works out. But

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my point being, you know,
it's very rare to see a two quarterback

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system, if that's what you want
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it's very rare to see that workout
in my opinion, And I feel

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like, you know, once once
you have a guy in there, you

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know who's who looks capable, you
kind of just have to roll with that

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for a bit, you know,
bargaining setbacks. And I feel like if

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you have a two quarterback system,
it just creates a scenario where, you

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know, it's kind of like you've
got you know, two siblings fighting over

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something. You know, it's it
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you know, might be a bit
of a shift in power, because

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again, quarterback is supposed to be
a leader, right, It's a leadership

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position. You're supposed to take accountability. And you know, if there's two

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quarterbacks. It's kind of hard to
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like you want to follow both,
but then you don't know who's going to

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be in. So again, it
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are catching the ball. You know
that maybe one quarterback can run, so

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you're gonna have more you know,
option players or whatever. Again, there's

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a lot of logistics to get go
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like most of the time, rolling
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go. So Jason, we're basically
looking here. I was trying to look

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at the schedule here coming up.
But you know, so if we look

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at the standings, right, tie
Cats we gotta get. We want home

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field advantage right in the semis against
Alouettes coming up, they have I had

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here then, So Hamilton's going into
Saskatchewan right Ottawa and the Montreal and then

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the next week he got BC at
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Alolettes. Any prediction there, do
you think Hamilton's able to make up that

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game on Montreal? Probably not,
because I don't see the Red Blacks beating

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the Alouettes at this point, given
the poor effort that we saw this past

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week, and so I think that
Alottes will gonna win there. Hamilton's I'm

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fifty fifty about whether or not they're
gonna go into Saskatchwe and win, even

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though Saskatchewe's looking very poor right now
themselves. You know, that's been a

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house of horrors for the tie Cats. I can tell you as a tie

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Cats fan, I think they haven't
won there in like seven years or something

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like that, Like even the year
in twenty nineteen where they went fifteen and

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three. That was one of their
losses that year. So I mean,

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I don't know if they're going to
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be a two game gap and that
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But you know, I do think
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I think, you know, given
what we saw in that first match

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against them, and then the last
week of the season and they play,

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you know what on the road against
Montreal, so that will be an interesting

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game if it means anything at that
point. So I'm really excited to see

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what happens the rest of the season. But you know, I think at

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the end of the day, I
don't see the Alouettes giving up that second

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place spot to Hamilton. So let's
so, and you're a lot more knowledgeable

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about all these playoff seedings and standings, like so, you know, let's

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crazy world here. BC shows up
Friday, right, kicks the pants off

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Winnipeg. Do they have to stay
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it because the tiebreaker? And I
like, are we are we still having

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to you know, like going into
Hamilton's here and we've got the host calorie?

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Like, what do you make a
BC at the end of their schedule

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if you are able to get the
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BC wins this weekend against Winnipeg,
they'll have the tiebreaker and they'll be because

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they have the same record right now, there'll be a game up, So

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they would effectively have a little bit
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to drop a game if they so
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weeks for an example. So I
think, like I said, that game

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on Friday is absolutely huge. I
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mean it could have looked even better
for BC. If Toronto was able to

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hold on and beat Winnipeg on Friday
night. But unfortunately for the Lions it

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didn't happen, so they'll have to
take care of business themselves. Yeah,

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because I mean, if you're looking
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I said, the Friday game,
Hamilton, You're going into Hamilton's and then

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hosting Calgary the kind of end up
the year, Evan, I guess any

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other thoughts we'll get to the other
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here, no Jason, anything else
on this Hamilton's faithful where they were was

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it was the hammer rockin. Yeah. It was a great crowd, I

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felt like because Calgary is not necessarily
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like the fans really come out for
the Toronto games, and you know that

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the games like against the marquee opponent, like say like a Winnipeger or maybe

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even a BC. But I think
for it being a game against Calgary,

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I thought the crowd was really excellent. I think it was around twenty three

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thousand there on Saturday night, So
I thought it was a great crowd and

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a great atmosphere for that announcement for
Green Days, the halftime show. All

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right, so let's get in here. Let me get back over so Montreal

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going into Ottawa. Here, we'll
go Jason first on this while I get

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it pulled up. Thoughts on this
one, I don't have many thoughts on

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this one because I didn't get a
chance to really watch too much of this

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game. My main takeaway would be
that just the Red Blacks, just like

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Calgary, they're they're very similar teams. They came out with no fight in

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this one. Once again, it
was twenty two to nothing entering the fourth

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quarter. They had multiple turnovers in
the red zone. They had a situation

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where, you know, I think
they were down by seven points at that

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point of the game early in the
second quarter, and they threw a pick

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six to Mark Antoine de Qua,
who was having an excellent season by the

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way, from Montreal. So,
I mean, Red Blacks just a very

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disappointing effort for them. I thought
that this game would be a lot closer

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than it ended up being, but
ultimately they didn't show up to play and

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then Montreal. Nothing spectacular from them, but defense continues to be a big

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story. Fajarda was solid and this
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back getting some good yardage and efficiency
there. So that was good to see

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from them. But I think the
big takeaway was Outawa just showing up flat

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once again. Yeah, we had
an Arbuckle appearance here as well, seven

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of nine. Yeah, I guess
so, I, like I said,

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I didn't catch too much of the
game, but uh, yeah, I

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was kind of shocked when I looked
at the box score and saw that he

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got into some action because they were
very, very reluctant to play him like

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ever since that those first couple appearances
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I don't know. I mean krum
here, like we said, come

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back down, they come back down
to Earth. I mean, I certainly

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think he's played well enough to kind
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least to kind of be in that
contention. Evan thoughts on this. I

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know this is kind of the Saturday
afternoon and they're kind of I think it

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was even like early than that here
on the on the West Coast. Yeah,

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I watched. I watched a good
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you know, first half and then
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like it was over pretty quickly. You

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know, it was just clear that
I mean, you know, Montreal kind

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of came out and it don't you
know, keep in mind it was slow,

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but I just didn't really feel like, you know, Ottawa had the

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juice in that game to get things
done. But I will say a couple

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of notes. I was really impressed
with the way Justin Crum spread the ball

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around to his receivers. It almost
reminded me of Vernon Adams and BC.

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Arbuckle came in after, you know
whatever. But Ottawa I think had five

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receivers with over four catches in that
game, which I thought was very impressive,

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you know, definitely getting a lot
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on the Montreal side, I know, what's his name, Austin Mack was

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out this game, so you had
cold Speaker filling in. You know,

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three catches for sixty yards standback really
impressed me in this game. Wasn't and

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you know, it wasn't a terribly
you know, exciting performance, I guess,

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but six and a half yards per
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Just felt like you know, he
was kind of a workhorse and you know,

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really nice to see him again kind
of you know, progressed through the

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course of the season because we we
had talked about at the beginning of the

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season that you know, he was
a bit slow with the injury and everything,

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and you know, coming off that
and then you know, he this

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was kind of, I think,
a big year for him. And you

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know, he's you know now in
these last couple of weeks, seems like

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you know, he's trying, he's
finding his way, i should say,

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and you know he was doing that
a bit, you know, a couple

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of weeks ago too, here and
there that there was definitely signs things were

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going in the right direction. But
the one you know, really interesting takeaway

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that I had from this game,
and you know this is kind of a

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bit random, but you know,
there was a play in this game that

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really got some you know traction on
Twitter, and I'm talking like it kind

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of went viral and it was I
believe justin yes, the onside punt,

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and I had no idea, you
know, what was going on or why

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you know that was important, like
I thought, you know, to me,

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I thought the cool play of the
game was when I think Montreal missed

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a field goal and then Ottawa returned
it and then the ball went out of

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you know, Ottawa's hands right back
into I believe it was Siba Sue maybe

409
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.400
he had the ball, and then
it was like this really weird turnover.

410
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.640
But yeah, the onside punt gained
a lad of traction. You know,

411
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:30.880
everyone was like, you know,
why would you do that? You know,

412
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.440
it doesn't make any sense. And
then I think it was Trey Watson

413
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.759
was in the XFL right now,
he used to put with Montreal. He

414
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.480
said, man, like, you
wouldn't understand the CFL unless you were reading

415
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.319
the rule book during the game,
you know what I mean. And yeah,

416
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.319
it was just one of those things
where I don't know. I was

417
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.599
like scratching my head during the game, like what is he doing? And

418
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:48.559
I went on Twitter and I'm like, geez, like this is getting a

419
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.160
lot of a lot of attention for
some you know, random CFL play on

420
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.960
a Saturday, but hey, I
mean more publicity for the league, you

421
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.240
know. And it was definitely talked
about, you know, afterwards for a

422
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:03.519
bit, so that I guess was
nice to see. But was this I

423
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.480
mean, so this is on perfect. Yeah, very odd here. Yeah,

424
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:11.960
I mean I think it's fine as
a novelty, like you know,

425
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:17.400
happens once. I've never seen this
before. I thought it had to travel

426
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:22.200
a certain amount of yards, but
I guess not. I mean he tried

427
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:26.279
to like Antwi himself tried this play
earlier in the year against BC. It

428
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.599
backfired on him. I think he
uh, it was a bumble and it

429
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.839
ultimately cost the Alouettes in that game. But yeah, I think it's fine

430
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.720
for like a one time thing.
But if this becomes a thing that people

431
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.440
try, I think it makes the
look the league look bad. I think

432
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.480
ultimately at the end of the day, it looks really silly. I feel

433
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.759
like and they would have to put
some kind of amendment. But I think

434
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.079
if it's just this one time,
I think it's it's fine. I just

435
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.680
don't get so we're second in eighteen
here. I just don't understand, Like,

436
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.880
what is the purpose of this.
It looks more like an accident than

437
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.279
anything else. Yeah, for some
reason, I don't know why, but

438
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.200
it resets the down, so we
got a first down into that, Like,

439
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:10.039
like, it doesn't make sense to
me. I think it should be

440
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.000
because apparently the rule is as long
as you kick it behind the line of

441
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.559
scrimmage and it crosses the line of
scrimmage and you recover it bond beyond the

442
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.720
line of scrimmage, it's a first
down, but I think it should be

443
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.319
you know, it has to be
beyond the first down market. I think

444
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.039
that makes more sense to me.
But I mean, at the end of

445
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:26.960
the day, like I said,
I don't think we're gonna see this on

446
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.480
a regular basis, and if it
does, I think the CFL will have

447
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.200
to do something about it. So
I'm taking it back. I tweeted last

448
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.319
night during the Chiefs game, Hey, I agree people talking CFL rules better

449
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.960
than the NFL and all that stuff, because he got my home serious like

450
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.559
that. I take all that back. I take all that back that this

451
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:47.000
is a legal forward play. Then
they were able to reset that. Evan,

452
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.000
this is absurd. Yeah, I
mean, and I again, I

453
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.039
didn't realize, like until I,
you know, started doing some research.

454
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.119
I was like, you know,
why would he do that? And I

455
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.200
realized, you know, you can
get an automatic first down doing that.

456
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.440
But I will say, extremely risky
play, Like I'm surprised, you know,

457
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.039
it makes me, well, I
shouldn't say, it makes me happy,

458
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:07.599
but at least makes me feel a
bit better knowing that you know,

459
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.880
someone has tried this before and lost
the football, because the reality is like

460
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.240
it looks like, I mean,
you know, you're taking a huge risk,

461
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.359
you know, letting the ball out
of your hands and having it roll,

462
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.359
even just for a couple of yards, there's any defenders in that area,

463
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.440
someone could fall on it, and
you know it's a turnover. You

464
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.039
lost the fumble essentially, So yeah, I agree with Jason. It's like

465
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.880
it's cool, you know, for
maybe one time, but like if people

466
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.680
think that this is like a new
trick that's gonna work, you know,

467
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.480
every time you've got a long second
down, I think you might be sorely

468
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.759
mistaken. I hope, Well I
don't hope, but I almost. It's

469
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.079
like it's one of those things where
you know, maybe maybe we will see

470
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:45.880
it play out where a team you
know, unfortunately you know, loses the

471
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:51.480
football and gives up you know,
good field position of the other team just

472
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.720
to really you know, bring the
point home and to learn a lesson because

473
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:56.920
I don't know, that's like,
that's got to be one of the weirdest

474
00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.559
things ever. Like in I've ever
seen in any level of football, not

475
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.880
even like you know just NFL or
you know, high level Pro Bowl,

476
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.559
but you know college even like high
school. I mean that's like that feels

477
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:14.640
like something that would happen like at
the high school level to miss uh if

478
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.680
he Haddson Nielsen on the college why
is he doing? Why is he doing?

479
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:22.599
Okay, that's crazy, all right? Anything else on this one,

480
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.359
I mean you would think of anything
that that would be Bob Dyce would be

481
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.599
died on that up not Montreal.
You know you think Bobby diyas the special

482
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:30.759
teams guy, would be doing that. Jason. Anything else on this one,

483
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:33.920
Yeah, I guess I'll give a
couple of shot outs for each team.

484
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.240
So from Montreal. Like I said, William stand back, It's good

485
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.720
to see him playing well. Reggie
Stubblefield, I think he's been a really

486
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.880
good addition for the back end for
the Alouettes. He had eight tackles,

487
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.839
two sacks, and the interception in
this game, so really filled the stat

488
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:53.119
sheet. Mark Antoine de quap excellent
season, pick six in this one.

489
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.720
And then for the Red Blacks up
Raylan Addison had his best game in a

490
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:03.119
long time, seven matches for ninety
four yards and then clay On Lang defensive

491
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.519
tackle, who I used to think
was one of the best Canadian players in

492
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.759
the CFL, but it's went quite
the last couple of years. He had

493
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.720
a big game in this one for
a couple of sacks. And then I

494
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.160
guess I was looking ahead here.
Yeah, we were talking before we at

495
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:21.279
Montreal going, uh where is it
Ottowa coming into Montreal doing these home at

496
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.559
home again. It really feels like
set up here for outlets to take a

497
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.400
second here in the East. Jason, how do you feel tie cats traveling

498
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:34.279
in and will you be making the
journey with your boys for semis? Oh

499
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.000
the Semis? No, No,
I probably will not be going to Montreal,

500
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.440
but you know i'd love too.
I planned to make it there one

501
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.559
day. That's one of the stadiums
I haven't been to, along with all

502
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.839
the other Western ones, but I
think, yeah, at the end of

503
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.960
the day, I probably won't end
up traveling to that one. It's it's

504
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.559
interesting because basically we're gonna have almost
a repeat of last year's playoffs. It

505
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.400
looks like because I think Montreal's gonna
hold on the second, so it's gonna

506
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.680
be Hamilton traveling to Montreal. The
only thing different this year. It looks

507
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.240
like saskatch one's gonna make it.
But yeah, I think BC's probably gonna

508
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.680
finish second. If if they lose
this game on Friday, they'll probably finish

509
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.160
second. So I mean, yeah, it looks like deja vu for for

510
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.400
CFL fans. Well, and that's
way I mean, and I've said this,

511
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:19.160
it mays has to get on here, but you know, yeah,

512
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.160
swap out Saskatchewe for Calgary if the
BC's in second place, so you know,

513
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.079
host them at host them in Vancouver
and then traveling to Winnipeg and that

514
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.799
that is to me, it gets
terrifying on that going here, h BC

515
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.319
hosting Saskatchewan. I got a little
close at the end, but I feel

516
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:37.640
like some of this was we took
the foot off the gas in terms of

517
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.559
defensive stuff. Here, Evan,
we'll talk go to you first. Yeah,

518
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.960
you know, I didn't get to
watch a ton of this game.

519
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.279
I mean I watched a bit you
know here and there, but uh yeah,

520
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.799
I mean once again, just another
you know, offensive clinic from BC.

521
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.079
Again. The defense, you know, they they it got a bit

522
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.319
close there, you know, Saskatchewan. I think at fifteen points in the

523
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.759
fourth quarter, so talk about a
rally. But you know, I mean

524
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:10.279
again at offense is just so it's
so lethal, you know, so potent,

525
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.559
like I mean Vernon Adams, like
it's almost like if he doesn't throw

526
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.559
for more than four hundred yards in
a game, it's a disappointment. Now,

527
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.440
and that's a that's a crazy number. I know it's CFL whatever,

528
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.119
maybe it's more of a passing league, but like man, I meant every

529
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:27.720
game, it just I think he's
over four thousand now, if I'm not

530
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.640
mistaken, I think he hit that
in this game. So you know,

531
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.319
Vernon again continues to be oppressive.
Twenty seven to thirty six, four fifty

532
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.759
eight, three touchdowns. You know. The run game, you know for

533
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.759
BC is still a bit slow.
That's something where you know, we've talked

534
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.279
about this before and I'm not going
to touch on it too much year,

535
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.640
but maybe one of those things you
want to lean into a bit more before

536
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.359
the playoffs, just to be safe, you know, just to make sure

537
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.160
that you have everything you know,
where you want it before you go and

538
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.640
take on you know, Winnipeg wherever
that is again, whether it's in BC

539
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:06.200
or you know at at ig Field
again that we crazy how you know this

540
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.200
is all unfolding now when we were
talking about that being one of the biggest

541
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.480
scenarios of the season like two months
ago. But anyway, that that's a

542
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.119
separate story. Yeah. And then
you know, the receivers for BC,

543
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.279
I mean, do I even need
to talk about them anymore? Hollands Hatcher,

544
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.400
I mean, every everybody you know
gets a nice piece here in that

545
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.079
offense, especially Hatcher in this game, you know, just had an absolutely

546
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:32.559
outstanding performance. And then you know, for Saskatchewan, I don't know,

547
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.880
I feel like, you know,
I feel like they've had a lot of

548
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.359
games where they've lost and their offense
continues to impress me, but it just

549
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:44.519
comes down to their own defense and
you know, some turnovers here and there,

550
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.400
and you know, it just it
seems like, you know, I

551
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.640
mean, Dola Gala through for four
hundred and nine yards but did not have

552
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.960
a passing touchdown. I mean,
that's that's fascinating to me, but not

553
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:58.319
necessarily for the right reason. So
and again, their run game, I

554
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.519
mean, you know, I think
we've discussed this before too, but but

555
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.920
their run game might even need some
more work than Bcason in certain areas I

556
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.920
just don't even know. You know, Yes, BC and Saskatchewan have both

557
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.799
struggled at times running the football,
but I feel like BC, at least

558
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.119
with my Zell, you know,
they have a bit more of a higher

559
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.440
ceiling there, whereas I look at
Saskatchewan and I'm like, I don't know,

560
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.960
you know, so that that's tough. But then I mean they they

561
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.880
had too you know. Interestingly,
they BC only had one you know,

562
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.759
one hundred plus yard receiver and that
was key On Hatcher, but Saskatchewan had

563
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.720
two of them and Keyan Shaffer Baker
and uh Jared Starns, who you know,

564
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.599
I've talked about Jared Sterns at nauseam
being you know, one of my

565
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.880
you know, favorite players. He
was one of my favorite players at the

566
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.640
college level, and I've been very
pleased with you know what he's been able

567
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.599
to do, you know, coming
into the CFL. He signed with Saskatchewan

568
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.799
I think in July, so,
you know, middle of the season type

569
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.720
thing, and has come in and
has really you know, carved out a

570
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.039
role for himself there. But yeah, ultimately, you know, this was

571
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:59.079
a game I expected BC to win. You know, their offense continues to,

572
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.319
uh, you know, really impressed
me. You know, one of

573
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:06.759
the more I think exciting you know
offenses to watch in the entire league.

574
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.320
And I say that, you know, even with all the teams like Toronto

575
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:12.400
and Winnipeg, you know who go
out there and you know, sling it

576
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.280
every weekend. I mean I've seen
BC you know live you know now and

577
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.280
back to back seasons at BC plays
and both times, I mean the story

578
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.760
was their offense. You know,
first it was with Nathan Rourke. Second

579
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.920
time it was with of course Vernon
Adams, who's there now. But yeah,

580
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.880
I mean you know that it was
a pretty again just about what I

581
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.440
expected, you know, a couple
of things that could have been better,

582
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.320
but BC gets to win and you
know they carry that momentum into the big

583
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.199
game that you're going to read.
Yeah you're talking here, Yeah, Vernon

584
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.199
and if this is you know,
we can never tell with the CFL that

585
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.559
we have four thousand over four thousand
yards now for the season. Tremendous for

586
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:52.599
that. Just a couple thoughts.
And I want to get to Jason right

587
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.960
Rhymes was back right, he had
been out, so that was good to

588
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.199
see Vernon here, you know,
crazy for a fifty eight but giving up

589
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.119
like, where are the Donut boys? Are you giving it four hundred nine

590
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.360
yards? Did Jake Dalla Galla?
I mean, Jason, what do you

591
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.920
like you can't give You got Winnipeg
coming in. You can't be giving it

592
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.360
four hundred plus yards to Sacatch one. Uh, I think that's misleading.

593
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.159
I think I think they gave up
a lot of those yards. And because

594
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:22.400
this game, Yeah, this game
was I think a three touchdown lead in

595
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.159
the fourth quarter, and that's kind
of when I stopped watching the game because

596
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.559
it was, you know, it
was just too far to reach at that

597
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:30.679
point. But then I looked at
the final score and Sascatch one scored two

598
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.039
touchdowns in the final five minutes,
So I think that's where they got a

599
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.079
lot of those yards. Like Evan
said, a sascatchwe can get much going

600
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.760
on the ground. So I think
that BC's defense actually played very well in

601
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.519
this game. They were pretty relentless
early in the game, and on the

602
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.519
other side of the ball, I
thought that, you know, uh,

603
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.559
BC's offense was just clicking on all
cylinders. So I think they're kind of

604
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:58.280
ramping up towards this matchup. They
had a couple of poor performances a few

605
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.960
weeks ago, as we alluded to
know the game against Hamilton, you know,

606
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.960
the game against Ottawa were they almost
lost. But now it feels like

607
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.760
they're back in the swing of things
and ready for that big matchup against Winnipeg.

608
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.679
And I think that, you know, if they play like this,

609
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.840
they can beat any team in the
CFL and could go on a great Cup

610
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.360
run. Here. I mean,
you gotta you gotta play sixty minutes here,

611
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.400
Jason. I don't like giving up
garbage time TVs. To Jake Della

612
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:27.800
galla here. Yeah, in terms
of yeah, you know, rushing here.

613
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.800
And I understand, like, well, you know, we have a

614
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.079
million receivers and we don't need to
do that. But Evan talked about this

615
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:37.159
Jason, like, you know,
we're giving my Zell thirty Like I don't

616
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.159
know, I feel like this is
a tail as all as time we got.

617
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.639
This is you know, snazzy West
Coast team. We're gonna go into

618
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.719
Manitoba here and we're gonna get crushed. They're gonna pound the rock in the

619
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.719
snow and then the ice. Like
if have I foreseen the future already?

620
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.760
Yeah, I mean that seems like
the biggest difference between BC and Toronto and

621
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:57.840
Winnipeg right now, it seems like, you know, Toronto Winnipeg, they

622
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.280
have these big, imposing running backs
and Alba and Olette and Andrew Harris.

623
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:05.440
I'll have been throw in there for
Toronto, whereas you know, BC,

624
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:07.159
I believe, like I would have
to check, but a few weeks ago

625
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.840
they were dead last and rushing,
and I don't think that's changed. So

626
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.199
I think, you know, they're
much more of a finesse team and that

627
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.199
makes it all the more important for
them to get that number one seed and

628
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.199
host the West Final. Evan,
in terms of our boy Vernon here clean

629
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.039
game, three touchdowns, like we've
talked about him, you know, tremendous

630
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.119
season, Like is there a chance
that he's in the MLP discussion? I

631
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.239
know Farhan and Taylor they like pumping
him up, but you know we keep

632
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.880
talking. Obviously check Kelly, but
now he's not going to be playing,

633
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.360
Like what do you make of that
with Vernon? I think he's in the

634
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.800
discussion, but to say that he
has a good chance of winning is a

635
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.760
bit of a reach. And you
know, I think that's more of the

636
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.480
emergence. Well, I mean well, let me put it this way,

637
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.960
Zach Colaros. We all know who
has been established for a long time.

638
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:59.639
Chad Kelly is probably the most likely
option to win MP. I believe just

639
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.519
even that you know, Toronto,
you know they've got we've got like you

640
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.559
know what, a month left of
regular season play and you know they can

641
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.760
pretty much rest him. Maybe that
does affect, you know, his chances

642
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:14.639
for MP. I don't know,
but you know, Vernon, I feel

643
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.400
like, yeah, I mean,
Vernon should definitely be in the discussion.

644
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:21.519
Absolutely, it's just a matter of
you know what we'll see. I think,

645
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.960
you know, my only issue with
Vernon, and this may be the

646
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.800
reason that you know he's discussed but
he doesn't win, it is again,

647
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.000
you know, yes, he throws
the ball a lot. They've been very

648
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:36.159
efficient on offense. He has these
games four hundred yards, three touchdowns,

649
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.320
no problems. But you know,
when he has an off day, it

650
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.800
tends to be pretty off. You
know. We saw that a couple of

651
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.480
times, like against Toronto where he
had you know, I don't even know

652
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:51.400
how many shicks. Yeah, it
was agnumber. And even against Ottawa,

653
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.199
you know, we we talked about
that. I guess that was two weeks

654
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.039
ago now, because I wasn't here
last week, but you know, it

655
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.199
was just like one interception, okay, fine, and then you just kind

656
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.920
of start, you know, the
turnover start piling up, and you know,

657
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.679
like that's the only that's the only
tough thing. Like if you look

658
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.280
at if you look at I mean, it's I don't know if those are

659
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.440
all well, you know, it's
I don't know if that's Vernon's stat line

660
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.320
there, but like yeah, yeah, so I know, so yeah.

661
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.519
So here I've got some Vernon's.
Vernon's twenty eight sixteen four thousand five yards.

662
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.880
We got Chack Kelly here at twenty
one and eleven, uh, you

663
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.079
know, three thirty three hundred.
That was thirty four hundred yards obviously playing

664
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.119
you know, he was hurting the
game playing. You didn't, didn't play

665
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.599
whatever. And then Clario's really clean
here thirty and fourteen, thirty seven hundred

666
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:38.960
yards. I mean, if Vernon
doesn't have that Toronto game, I think

667
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.760
he's really more in contention here.
I mean, Jason, like, I

668
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.000
think Clario's head and shoulder, not
head and shoulders. But I mean there's

669
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.159
clearly a line there. But is
it what what do you make of this.

670
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.239
Well, it's funny. We were
talking last week on the show in

671
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.519
Case you missed It, Evan about
you know, whether or not Vernon still

672
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.559
had a chance in the MLP race, and I actually said no, But

673
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.320
now he has a game this and
if they can win this week against BCS,

674
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.119
it's gonna be very interesting because if
they finished first in the West and

675
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.960
Burning plays excellent from this point to
the end of the season, I think

676
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.119
he definitely has a shot to win
this award because where are you play in

677
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.679
the standings always seems like it has
a role. It plays a role in

678
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.039
who wins these awards. And I
mean a couple of weeks ago, I

679
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.400
would have said Kelly would win it, but I think because of the you

680
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.800
know, the statistical difference because of
all the missed games, and even before

681
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.440
that, you know, Clariss's numbers
were better than Kelly. So I think

682
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:35.920
at the end of the day,
you know, Clariss is probably still gonna

683
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.760
win it, but there still is
a chance for Burning to get back into

684
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:43.039
it because of these big games coming
up. I just to me, that's

685
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.119
like that's the story, you know, like we've had this with Zach and

686
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.360
Vernon and he was with Montreal and
then he got trading mid season. He's

687
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.679
doing all that time. If you
guys hadn't listened to the interview when we

688
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.199
have burnon On, I guess it
was preseason this year is talking about like

689
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.199
you know, and I had my
I was paying rent in Montreal, and

690
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.440
I was paying rent in Vancouver and
I still have my house in Tacoma,

691
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.480
and I'm trying to learn this rule
book, like you know it have the

692
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.480
whole season unders belt here, come
back and really kick ass. I think

693
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.159
it's a pretty exciting thing, especially
for someone that's been in the CFL as

694
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.960
long as Vernon has. I mean, I know, like emotion doesn't go

695
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.360
into you know, you gotta look
at the stats and everything here. But

696
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.280
it's an interesting discussion. Evan,
any other thoughts on that. Yeah,

697
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.639
I mean, look again, I
wouldn't rule Vernon out. And the reality

698
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.559
is, you know, I mean
if if Chad Kelly continues to rest,

699
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:29.920
you know, that might push him
out. I mean, now that we're

700
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.039
looking at the numbers, you know, if we want to if we want

701
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:35.239
to base off that, I mean, Claro's definitely has the best ratio.

702
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.719
There's no surprise there when it comes
to you know, touchdowns, interceptions,

703
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.920
everything like that. But you know, yeah, Vernon, Like the thing

704
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.679
is again it goes back to this
upcoming game, and you know, if

705
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.519
Vernon can you know, if Vernon
has a couple like you know that Saskatchewan

706
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.119
stat line that we just looked at
twenty seven thirty six, four fifty eight

707
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:58.719
three touchdowns, if he can keep
doing that for you know, just another

708
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.079
a couple more weeks or whatever,
yeah, then I'd feel like, you

709
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.079
know, he honestly would have a
good chance. You know, I still

710
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.199
find it hard to say that,
you know, he would be the front

711
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:12.760
runner, but like there's a lot
there. You know that there's really something

712
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.440
there, and you know, there's
no denying that Vernon has been, you

713
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.760
know, one of the most impressive
quarterbacks. Again. Yes, he's had

714
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.960
some turnovers, he's had some you
know, mental errors, whatever, but

715
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.199
every quarterback has that, and you
know, I feel like, you know,

716
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.119
right now, I don't know right
now, it's a bit up in

717
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.000
the air, but you know,
if if in these final few weeks he

718
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.599
really goes out there and continues to
make a statement, I don't see why

719
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.400
you'd take him out of that discussion. I just I'm I'm happy, you

720
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.679
know, And I think, like
you said, if you take the Toronto

721
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.599
game out, I think this is
an entirely different discussion. But you know,

722
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.719
everyone's allowed. You're entitled to do
a bad game or two. It's

723
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.239
you know, it's a the eighteen
game, you know, twenty one week

724
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.079
season. I think you're allowed to
have that. I just, like I

725
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:59.320
said, longevity of it. You
here's someone that I think a lot of

726
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.519
people that hit kind of written off
and Okay, he's in Montreal or became

727
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.400
like I know, like as much
as I loved him as a person,

728
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.960
I was a little worried, like, Okay, now this year and this

729
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:12.320
we got all these toys he's playing
with and like, I think he's been

730
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.719
great. I think he's matured into
it. I know, and he's a

731
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.320
fan of man. I know,
we're big fans in the group, Jason.

732
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.079
Any other thoughts on Burnin, they're
just a story of kind of where

733
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.400
he's at right now. Yeah,
I'm really happy for him. I feel

734
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:27.000
like this is you know, his
place in the CFL. This is like

735
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.760
it feels like he's really found at
home. I mean it looked like,

736
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.119
you know, a couple of years
ago. He looked great in Montreal,

737
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:36.159
but I mean things just kind of
developed there and for whatever reason, they

738
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.679
decided to bring in Trevor Harris and
they decided to you know, make him

739
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.079
the starting quarterback there. And then
obviously he ended up leaving too. But

740
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.400
things, you know, ended pretty
poorly in Montreal. But I think this

741
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.639
is really where he belongs in the
CFL, and it's good to see him,

742
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.000
you know, finally, you know, settle in here, because he's

743
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.920
a guy that came to the CFL
with a lot of hype and a lot

744
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.440
of people were saying this guy is
like an ideal fit for the CFL game,

745
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.920
and that was like years ago.
So you know, it's finally great

746
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.159
to see that he has settles in
here. And you know, is in

747
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.719
the MP discussion and one of the
name I wanted to throw out into the

748
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.480
MP discussion. He won't get any
serious consideration of winning it, but Brady

749
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.719
Olivera has had an excellent season,
one of the best seasons by a running

750
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.360
back we've seen in quite a few
years in the CFF AL And I mean,

751
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.199
you know, if we didn't have
all these excellent quarterbacks, because that's

752
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.760
really what happens when you talk about
the MLP discussion. If a quarterback's having

753
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.320
a great season, they're gonna win
that award. But you know, the

754
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.280
years that there's not really that outstanding
quarterback, that's when you usually see a

755
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.840
positional player win it. But I
think at the end of the day,

756
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.719
Olivera deserves a shout out as well
because his numbers this year have been excellent.

757
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.320
Yeah, and then Ken ken Friedan's
his check chiming in the chat,

758
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.760
he says the two games are the
Argo's loss, Kelly was hurt or did

759
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.199
not play, the fact that he's
not playing here at the end of the

760
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.800
season. You know, they clinched
first because of I know, I know,

761
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.679
but it's I mean, it's it's
it's like the news cycle and okay,

762
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:06.800
we're moving you know, we're moving
on here, you know, I

763
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.239
mean, you're gonna stat compare their
uh my other thing. And then we'll

764
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:15.440
get to the last game here in
terms of Saskatchewan just because obviously presumably we'll

765
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.000
see a BC or whoever has to
I think it's Saskatchewan takes on BC here,

766
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.840
right, Sascatchewan takes on Winnipeg and
in the playoffs, I think it's

767
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.199
a walk in the park. But
what do you make here, Jason,

768
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:28.440
And we'll get Evan Sauz will move
on here real quick. But just Saskatchewan

769
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.360
moving forward kind of following here in
the standings a little bit. Well,

770
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:36.760
it's weird because they're almost surely going
to make the playoffs, but yeah,

771
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:38.920
it looks like they're just set up
to lose in that you know, West

772
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:44.360
semifinal. And I know they've beaten
Winnipeg and BC like once before, but

773
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.000
I think at the end of the
day, they don't look super close to

774
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:52.199
those teams right now. And the
last time we saw Winnipeg play Saskatchewan,

775
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.519
Winnipeg you know, destroyed them in
that game in the playoffs would be you

776
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.519
know, on the road in Winnipeg, and likewise for the Saskatchew one versus

777
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.519
BC matchup. So I think at
the end of the day, they're kind

778
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.559
of stuck in the in the middle
here. They're gonna make the playoffs unless

779
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.679
Calgary has a sudden resurgence. Here
Ottawa runs off three straight wins. But

780
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.360
I think at the end of the
day, I don't know what to make

781
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.159
of them, because yeah, they
really don't look like they have anywhere to

782
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.360
go right now, because it looks
that they're gonna make the playoffs but not

783
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.960
do anything else. Yeah, I
just I mean super disappointing. Again.

784
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.079
I mean last year, I know
there was a lot of you know,

785
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:31.079
heads being called for because obviously they'm
hosting the Great Cup and everything, but

786
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.000
to feel like, I don't know, I don't know what you do here,

787
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:40.360
Jason, any other sat Saskatchewan I
mean Evan Sorry no, oh yeah,

788
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.880
Sascatchewan. Yeah, yeah, I
mean just kind of yeah, I

789
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.360
feel like what everyone else has already
said. I mean, you go,

790
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.280
you know, whatever they're gonna have
to do, it's gonna be on the

791
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.400
road against a really tough team,
and you know, I just I don't

792
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.679
really see them doing too much.
It's been an interesting season for Saskatchewan.

793
00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:59.920
I feel like they have a lot
to work with, you know, I

794
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:00.880
always say that, you know,
whether they win or lose, they have

795
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:05.559
a lot of pieces there. But
you know, obviously Trevor Harris getting hurt

796
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.079
as early as he did, I
think kind of, you know, well,

797
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:12.639
it certainly didn't derail this season if
they're in playoff contention, but it

798
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.760
feels like they've had a lot of
you know, shifting components, even outside

799
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.440
of the quarterback position. I mean, yeah, you went from Trevor Harris

800
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.880
to Mason Fines and now Jake Dola
Gallis seems like the guy, and you

801
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.320
know, I'd be comfortable, you
know, moving forward with Dola Galla depending

802
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.880
on what happens with Trevor Harris.
I do think he will be back.

803
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.199
But again, you know, Dola
Galla can maybe go to another team next

804
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:34.119
year. And I think I've brought
that up where you know, you have

805
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.639
a good showing in Saskatchew when you
can go do something somewhere else. But

806
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.760
anyway, you know, with Saskatchewan
in particular, I just feel like they

807
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.320
have a lot of a lot of
moving pieces and things kind of kind of

808
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.800
got shaken up for them early.
So it's been a real mixed bag with

809
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:51.599
them. You know. Fortunately,
they do have games where they're exciting to

810
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.880
watch, and you know they have
they have you know, one against I

811
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.880
think that, you know, interestingly
enough, I feel like and if we

812
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.320
want to talk about playoffs here real
quick, I was just running through scenarios

813
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:07.599
in my head. Unlike Montreal in
the East, the Saskatchewan has actually beaten

814
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.760
you know, some of the better
teams. They've beaten Beast, they've beaten

815
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:15.320
Winnipeg before, and that to me
really stands out. Again, I unfortunately

816
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.239
feel like, you know, that's
just I feel like, you know,

817
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.079
it's it's gonna be too strong in
the playoffs and they're not gonna be able

818
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.639
to overcome that. But like I
look at Montreal and I'm like, at

819
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.880
the rate you know, things are
going at Hamilton could go into Montreal and

820
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.280
I think they could win that game, and you know, I think that

821
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:35.000
would set up a very interesting you
know, Eastern Final. You know,

822
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.760
I guess that would be between Hamilton
and Toronto. But yeah, just just

823
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.920
a lot there. You know,
it's for Saskatchewan again, going back to

824
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.519
my original point, you know,
I would say there's season overall. I

825
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.920
mean, if you make playoffs,
I'd call it a success, given how

826
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:52.920
much uncertainty there was. Again,
but uh, you know, yeah,

827
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.360
no denying that. There's still some
work that needs to be done. And

828
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.599
obviously this was a big h This
was a year of change for them.

829
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.360
This was their first year. You
know, you moved on from Cody Fajardo,

830
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:06.320
you know, you moved on from
you know, some of the coaches.

831
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.079
Yeah, Jason Moss right, so
you know, definitely a change there.

832
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.480
But you know, I feel like
there is a bright future for a

833
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.840
team like Saskatchewan, and you know
you can't say that for everybody else in

834
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.039
the league. Right now, last
game here, we'll get to kind of

835
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:28.079
the weird game, and I thought
we had Ron Smith on the show previewing,

836
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.920
kind of talking CFL going the end
of the weekend. Like you know,

837
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.559
people have been very critical like why
was in this game earlier in the

838
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.599
Gray Cup rematch, really, you
know, didn't didn't amount for a lot.

839
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.639
We saw Brian Scott here in Friends
of the Show did not have the

840
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.679
best outy and Jason, what do
you what do you make of this one?

841
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.280
Winnipeg they trounta felt like they had
a shot there. Yeah. I

842
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:50.400
enjoyed the game for the most part, but like you said, when Brian

843
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.800
Scott got put into the game in
the fourth quarter, I felt that kind

844
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.880
of ruined, ruined the vibe of
the game. Like honestly, I thought

845
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.920
that there was really pointless to kind
of put him in there. I think

846
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.960
because you have four other games.
If you want to give Bryan Scott a

847
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:06.840
full other game, you have four
other opportunities to do that, But why

848
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.800
take Cameron Dukes out when he's playing
relatively well against a very good team that's

849
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.480
still trying to win, Like you
want to give your backups really good you

850
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:19.280
know experience, uh, and you
know game situations. You're playing against the

851
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.719
Winnipeg team that wants to win this
game. This was a perfect scenario for

852
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.360
Camera Dukes to finish this game and
and try to get Toronto the victory here,

853
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.840
even though it didn't mean anything for
them, but it was quality reps

854
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.079
that you could have gotten Cameron Dukes, but instead you you pull him in

855
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:36.719
the middle of the fourth quarter for
a guy that hasn't played, you know,

856
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.559
in the league right now, sorry
in them in the league this season.

857
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:44.360
And I don't know, it was
just such a weird vibe at the

858
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.079
end of that game because you know, Toronto basically just conceded it to Winnipeg.

859
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:51.519
And I thought that for the most
part, Toronto played very very well

860
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.719
in this game. They came to
play and I thought that, you know,

861
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.880
they looked really great in the first
half, but ultimately I feel like

862
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.320
they conceded the game in the in
the fourth quarter by putting in Brian Scott.

863
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:05.639
Yeah, maybe sad here. You
know, I love Brian. Bryan's

864
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.840
been on the show and obviously tracking
him going up there, and you know,

865
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.880
there was a lot of things with
the XFL and everything else that Evan,

866
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.519
what did you make of Brian Scott's
at first performance this season? Yeah,

867
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.480
well, you know, Brian's been
around and I was very I was

868
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.280
very pleased to see him come into
the game. I understand it was weird

869
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.320
timing and I understand, you know, it might have not been the right

870
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:30.480
decision, but you know, we
like we haven't seen Brian play since you

871
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.679
know what USFL last year, and
he only played in the couple games before

872
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.119
getting hurt. You know, it's
been a long time since he has been

873
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.719
on the field. And the fact
that you know, he's still around in

874
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:44.000
twenty twenty three, you know,
with a major pro franchise, you know,

875
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.679
one that has the potential to you
know, win a championship even if

876
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:52.039
he's not starting. I find that
to be a very a very formidable,

877
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.119
I guess is the term accomplishment,
you know, A very like I mean

878
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:59.800
I remember when he he was like
the Spring League MVP, and that feels

879
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:05.159
like, you know, decade ago
now and times. Yeah, so you

880
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.239
know, it's it's been a it's
been a long time that Brian's been around.

881
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.719
But I think the real story here, and again I'm sure Brian will

882
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.719
you know, get another opportunity hopefully, you know, down the stretch here

883
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:15.119
in the next couple of weeks.
So you know, I wouldn't. I

884
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.199
know, this wasn't his best day, but again, it was only a

885
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.320
couple of snaps, you know,
I'll give him a break, right,

886
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.559
and it was weird timing and all
that. But the real story here,

887
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.119
I think was Cameron Dukes. And
of course, you know this one,

888
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.000
you know, was was pretty special. You know Mike Davis, who I

889
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.760
work with, you know, in
Vegas. He he was the guy who

890
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.719
you know, brought Cam Dukes in, you know, to the Arena game

891
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.320
and he played in Vegas prior to
you know, going to Toronto. So

892
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.719
we were, you know, we
were very happy about that to see him,

893
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.360
you know, go up there and
get the start, and he's kind

894
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.800
of you know, he's almost I
guess the poster child in a sense,

895
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.519
like you know, if you I'm
not trying to make a pitch here to

896
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.199
anybody, but it's like you know, if you develop your game and you

897
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.840
take a chance, you know,
things like this can happen where you're getting

898
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.440
off oportunity elsewhere and you can play
on a higher stage. And you know,

899
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:06.880
Cam Dukes, you know, in
this game, he really impressed.

900
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:08.280
You know, he came out there
and against one of the best teams in

901
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.719
the league. You know, looked
like he could start multiple games and not

902
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:15.639
have a problem. You know,
he was definitely you know, in a

903
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.679
position where you know, you could
tell that he had learned throughout the season

904
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:22.480
behind Chad Kelly, and you know, he was really taken in all the

905
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:27.039
information and using his prior experience in
the arena game. You know, very

906
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.880
impressed with what Cam Dukes did,
and I think a lot of other people

907
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.119
were impressed as well. You know, on the broadcast, they were saying,

908
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:36.159
you know, this game, to
some degree, you know, we

909
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.360
all viewed this was an automatic win
for Winnipeg. And yes, they still

910
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.800
got the victory at the end of
the game, but for a while,

911
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.119
I mean it looked like, you
know, Toronto was just going to keep

912
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.039
Dukes in there and they were gonna
roll past Winnipeg. And you know that

913
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:50.960
the entire Toronto team played very well
with him at the Helm. So yeah,

914
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:52.760
I was really impressed, you know, with with how that went down.

915
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:57.480
And I feel like, you know, I mean, I you see,

916
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.800
there's too much time left in the
sea, he's in tour. I

917
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.039
would just take Chad Kelly out of
the picture, like I think Chad,

918
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.119
you know, has to play again
obviously before you know, they go to

919
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.280
the playoffs, and I hope that
goes without saying. But again, in

920
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:14.960
this game proved that you know,
if you need Cam Dukes to play,

921
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.119
he'll be there, and you know
he's gonna play in a high capacity.

922
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.119
And I think that, you know, if you're Toronto, that's very that

923
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.960
makes you feel a bit more comfortable
because I think someone mentioned it on TSN.

924
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.880
They were saying, uh, you
know, the only question that Toronto

925
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.519
really had was you know, who's
the backup, you know, who's the

926
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.559
guy that's gonna come in if something
happens to Kelly during the season. And

927
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:37.920
you know, obviously it was kind
of a you know, between Dukes and

928
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.559
Scott, nobody you know, really
knew. I mean, hell, but

929
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.000
Ben Holmes was in there at one
point. But I can't bring up that

930
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:50.280
name on this show, but nah, you know, overall, yeah,

931
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.880
I was very I was still very
impressed with Toronto, even though Winnipeg got

932
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.639
the win. And yeah, I
mean I think that I know that was

933
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.920
a lot about quarterbacks, but I
mean we can get into some other some

934
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.679
other parts of the game here,
but I'll let I'll let you talk first

935
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:07.000
read. Yeah, Jason, just
you know, it's interesting and this has

936
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.000
been the discussion here for a couple
of weeks now with Chack Kelly and everything

937
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:14.960
else. Torano I mean really kind
of almost a beating Winnipeg with something.

938
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.840
And I saw a lot of like
online like well they're they're not resting everyone

939
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.960
or they did you know, I
mean there's still it's still a football game.

940
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:23.960
But what did you make? Yeah, I was shocked, how you

941
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:28.519
know, intense the argos were in
this game. I mean, yeah,

942
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.840
besides the quarterback, I feel like
they didn't really rest too many players.

943
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.800
I think a couple of guys on
the defensive side, like Sean Oakman I

944
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:37.840
think rested for this game. But
I thought that they played with a lot

945
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.360
of intensity. Ajoe Eleett I think, strangely only had the one carry in

946
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.159
this game, but it went for
you know, a big play, and

947
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:47.280
I thought that you know, you
know, the Artgos played with a lot

948
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:51.679
of intensity in this game, and
I thought they were legitimately trying to win.

949
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.559
But and that's why I was very
confused by their decision in the fourth

950
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:58.360
quarter to bring in Brian Scott.
And let me be clear, I'm not

951
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.480
ripping on Brian Scott. I'm just
saying that I thought that Cameron Duke's deserved

952
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:05.880
to finish that game with how he
was playing, and that there are other

953
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.360
opportunities to get Brian Scott a full
game with the four games they have left

954
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:13.119
in their season. So I think, you know, going forward, in

955
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.000
terms of Chad Kelly, I think
that they're going to play him next week

956
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:20.920
because I think they're gonna play him
for the home games. I think that's

957
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.360
my theory about it, because you
know, the fans there deserve to see

958
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.239
him play. But I think at
the end of the day, I think,

959
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:30.440
you know, for a game like
this in Winnipeg, I don't think

960
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.159
they wanted to show the Bombers too
much in terms of you know, they're

961
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.039
starting quarterbacks. So I think that's
why they decided to do what they did.

962
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:43.079
Yeah, I like that theory.
Yeah, play chat in the home

963
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.920
games. I just can you imagine
like a full Brian Scott game, that

964
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.599
I mean full Brian Scott and the
Argos at the home We got all these

965
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:53.519
tools here evant anyone else who wants
spotlight here before we get out, let

966
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.800
me take a look. I don't
have too many notes on this one.

967
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.599
I will say, you know,
not that he had, you know,

968
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:06.440
an extremely impressive game, but Deontey
McMahon was someone that I you know,

969
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.239
scouted an interview. He went to
school out here at McNeice State, and

970
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:13.280
you know, he signed with the
Argos. I mean, I think he

971
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.559
kind of signed with them before he
even entertained any other NFL opportunity. I

972
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.440
think he just decided that would be
the best place to go, you know,

973
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.280
given his status, you know,
coming from the FCS. But you

974
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.119
know, it's nice to see him
getting worked in. You know, he

975
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.599
was a really impressive player, you
know at the FCS level, one of

976
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:34.159
the best you know running backs,
you know, and to see him starting

977
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.760
to get some work here late in
the season for Toronto. He's another one

978
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:38.599
of those guys where it's like,
you know, kind of like Brian Scott,

979
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.960
like he might not flashed a lot
now, but you've got four more

980
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.599
weeks to do something and I'm sure
they're going to keep playing him, so

981
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:50.119
that'll be exciting to follow. Maybe
we'll talk about some guys on the Winnipeg

982
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.599
side of the ball. Yeah,
Brady Olivera, I mean, I think

983
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:57.840
that goes without saying at this point, but you know, twenty five carries

984
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.159
one hundred sixty nine yards, averaging
nearly seven yards of carry. I mean,

985
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.719
that's an absolute, absolute workhorse.
You know. That's like, I

986
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:07.440
mean, twenty five carries, you
know, for that many yards and you're

987
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.039
not even scoring, You're just kind
of getting the ball and you know,

988
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:14.320
chugging along for a couple of first
downs. I mean that's you know,

989
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.480
that's really good to see. And
you know again that I think I know

990
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:21.280
some people might you know, not
want to hear this if you're not a

991
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.440
Winnipeg fan, but you know,
that might help them a lot in the

992
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:25.920
playoffs. I think that's almost like
a secret weapon, even though we all

993
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:30.360
know how good Brady Olivera is.
But yeah, I read, I gotta

994
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.880
say it, man. I know, I know there's this whole BC deal,

995
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.760
but you know, well, we'll
see what happens. Yeah, I

996
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.079
think that's probably it. In terms
of guys from that game. Again,

997
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:43.400
I enjoyed watching it. You know. Obviously you know there were some you

998
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.039
know, different faces, but I
mean, yeah, there was enough.

999
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:49.400
There was enough starters in there.
I think Toronto they had a lot of

1000
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.079
their starting lineup in. I think
they just you know, pulled some guys

1001
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:53.599
earlier, like a j Olett had
one carry, you know, and then

1002
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.440
just kind of left after that.
So, I don't know, interesting again,

1003
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.119
kind of an interesting tactic. I
know, we brought it up with

1004
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.119
you know, we talked about Hamilton, like the two quarterbacks, like you

1005
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.960
know, some of these teams,
you know, pull some interesting cards out

1006
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.960
of the hat. And then yeah, having Brian Scott in there at the

1007
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.440
end of the game. Again,
hope to see Brian in a larger capacity

1008
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.440
having more success moving forward here over
the next couple of weeks. But yeah,

1009
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.639
ultimately that I think that's it.
Well, there you go, we

1010
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.039
did it. Like I said,
big game coming up Friday, you know,

1011
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:27.519
Winnipeg going in there, Jason,
any other games you want to spotlight

1012
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.800
before we get out of here,
Uh No, I don't think so.

1013
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.719
I mean I will add to Evans
point about you know, britty olivera being

1014
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.480
really important for them because I think
with Winnipeg they like to hit the big

1015
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:43.079
play, but they're not necessarily the
best in terms of the short range passing

1016
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.199
game. I think the running game
is very important for their pacing of that

1017
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:49.760
offense. So I think, yeah, Oliver a very key guy for them

1018
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going forward. Yeah, here els
going into the Slaughterhouse of Horror and in

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Toronto, let's see, and then
Hamilton, Saskatchewan and should be excited and

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like I said, I'll be up
at the BC game. Should be a

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good show this week. So obviously
tracking the XFL USFL stuff, I think

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Dan Caplan's gonna come on. I
think we're gonna get him on giving his

1023
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thoughts about that. And I reached
out to a couple of CFL guys trying

1024
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:17.679
to get whether the CFL panelists has
been avoiding me all season. We've been

1025
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:21.039
going back and forth trying to get
it scheduled, so maybe we can get

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01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.719
that pinned down or else. Sent
another former player another invite to maybe come

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back on, so appreciate it.
Like I said, Jason suing his other

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stuff on the channel and I think
that's it, unless anyone has anything else.

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All right, Thanks guys, we'll
see you next time. And where's

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my finger? All right? Take
care

