WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.919 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week covering Our Flag Means Death 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:16.120 Season two, episode three, The innkeeper Ye, welcome to Spacey Now. 3 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.320 I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing Our Flag Means Death one 4 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.160 episode at a time. Spoiler free in the series is available to stream on 5 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.079 Max and you should know this is a rewatch for us. We will have 6 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:31.199 a spoiler section at the end of the podcast where we are free to discuss 7 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:35.320 any future events in the series. So it's your first time watching Johnny spoilers. 8 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.560 We'll just need to skip that clearly marked section, but otherwise we won't 9 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:42.560 be spoiling anything past this episode, which is Our Flag Means Death Season two, 10 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:48.000 episode three, The Innkeeper's originally aired on October fifth, twenty twenty three, 11 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:50.759 which is the same as the last two weeks because they released them in 12 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.640 batches like that. It was written by Alyssa Laine and Alex Sherman and directed 13 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.920 by Andrew Deyong. In this episode, Dongie Sal's crew complete a successful raid 14 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.640 and come upon the Damnage Revenge. Steed finds the remaining crew but can't get 15 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.120 any information about Ed's whereabouts. Anti suspects of mutiny and advises Ying to kill 16 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:11.040 the crew of the Revenge. Steed and the crew escape pen steal back the 17 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:15.680 Revenge, taking the Red Flag's wheel in the process. Meanwhile, Ed is 18 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.079 in a form of purgatory referred to as a gravy basket under the care of 19 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.040 his former captain Benjamin Hornigold, and must decide whether to live or die. 20 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.319 As he begins to die, he is saved by the sound of Steed's voice 21 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.400 and his appearance in the form of a mermaid, and Ed wakes up to 22 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:36.680 Steed at his bedside, clutching his hand. Vibe check. Did we like 23 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.040 the episode overall? How does it stand the test of time? What a 24 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:45.959 nice little story. It's a good episode. Care to elaborate. I liked 25 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.879 it. I thought it was good. It was interesting to see the two 26 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:57.519 crews finally meeting and you see the juxtaposition of their situations and how they've been 27 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:04.680 dealing with the separation. It's very interesting. Yeah, one cruise in survival 28 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.680 mode and the others eating soup. Yeah. And I like how Steve is 29 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:15.039 kind of learning from Uh Jao Jeong. She said it really casual in this 30 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:21.080 episode, and she said like Jang Shang Shang so shangy South. Yeah, 31 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.960 she's like teaching him a lot based on like he's just like taking notes. 32 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.560 Yeah, he's got like an apprenticeship. So yeah, it's a it's a 33 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.080 good episode. It kind of it gets you back to where you want to 34 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:37.400 be with the crew together and Ed and Stead are reunited. We don't know 35 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.319 what that's going to look like when they wake up, but like the things 36 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.400 we've been wanting to get back to, we've achieved at the end of this 37 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.960 third episode. Right, Yeah, very interesting. So for trivia, I 38 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:52.439 didn't really find any trivia for this episode. There's no trivia for Steve in 39 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.919 a Mermaid suit. I didn't find any. Oh, there is so much 40 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.560 fan art. It's as Steve as a Mermaid fan art. It's crazy. 41 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:12.120 I could not escape Mermaid Steed for like weeks that fall. Yeah. Yeah, 42 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:14.800 I do think that, like the strike, so I'd have impacted like 43 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:19.520 just how much general information was out there for the show and like, yeah, 44 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.840 background information for the episodes just because no one could talk about it. 45 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:24.639 Yeah, and by the time they were able to, like they were kind 46 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:29.319 of just past commenting on every single episode. I guess yeah, and I 47 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.360 think, like, let's think about the world stage. Like a couple of 48 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:38.439 days after that, there was like that whole issue with Gaza and Israel happening. 49 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:44.439 Oh yeah October. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just like hard to 50 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:52.000 kind of focus on a show when there's actor strikes and there's like air strikes. 51 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.000 It's just hard. But it was a good respite for a little bit 52 00:03:55.159 --> 00:04:00.120 to kind of have like that breather. But I like this episode. I 53 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:04.599 think it's cool. I like the two cultures colliding and kind of seeing each 54 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:09.360 other, like I'm trying that soup. It's great. So I must watch 55 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:17.079 for me and then Auntie being a detective, great deep sea dive. Let's 56 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:21.360 break down some of our thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts 57 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:26.680 with us through email or social media. We may use your comments on an 58 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.439 upcoming episode. Let's get into it. We start with Steed's kind of getting 59 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:34.399 a hands on lesson about raiding a ship. Yeah, like how to do 60 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:40.680 it the right way where it's not like it's obviously violent, but there's there's 61 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:48.600 like a level of decorum and there's diplomacy involved where you know he was doing 62 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:56.319 too much diplomacy and ed was too much like brutality. So this is just 63 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:00.839 like a very happy medium, like where we are doing pirate thing, but 64 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:05.800 we are also like business people. We are trying to engage and we are 65 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:10.319 working on the same side, which was interesting. And he's like, oh, 66 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:12.439 yeah, I love to talk it out as a crew, you know 67 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.319 whatever, Like I think that's great, and she's like, oh no, 68 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:17.279 no, if he didn't pick what I wanted him to pick, he was 69 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.600 definitely going to die. And he's like, oh, he was kind of 70 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:27.120 shocked that there was going to be like actual consequences too. But she's so 71 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:31.040 good at what she wants. She's so good at like presenting these ideas to 72 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.800 these men, and it's like at first they don't even know what to think 73 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:39.399 because he gets boarded and you know, all a one day and Steet are 74 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.959 there and he doesn't even see her in the middle somehow. Yeah, and 75 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:48.079 she's almost annoyed with the like predictability of everything, with the whole process of 76 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:54.519 boarding these ships. Yeah, it's her. It's a random Tuesday for her. 77 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.560 Yep. It's almost like she's a manager being called down the deal with 78 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.920 something. Yeah, he's she's a manager coming down to deal with a Karen 79 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.759 or a Ken. But then moments later we come upon another ship and it's 80 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:11.439 all our old friends. They look like shit. Yeah, they look like 81 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.079 shit. They're all in huddled in Steed's old room eating a bird. They 82 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.800 look like shit, and they're eating like garbage because Cookie wasn't with them, 83 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:25.199 right, the cook got stuck with the on the deserted island, so they 84 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:29.680 don't even know how to cook a bird and need it properly. Yeah, 85 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.199 Like, I wonder how much time has passed since we last saw them. 86 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.600 Was it just like the storm that ravaged them that much? Or have they 87 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:39.759 been out there trying to survive for a while. It's hard to say. 88 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:45.639 There's no there's no way to tell with this show time passing, right, 89 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.480 Maybe we'll figure it out when black Beard wakes up. Who knows, But 90 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:53.839 I mean, yeah, I guess not too long. If black Beard is 91 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:58.519 still able to be alive without having any sustenance, right, and nobody changing 92 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.439 his pants or something like when you die, if you really did you evacuate 93 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:06.680 your bowels, nobody wants to be around for that. They would have thrown 94 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:13.680 his ass overboard by then. But yeah, they're they're like It kind of 95 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:17.800 makes me think of that movie the song Hotel California, You know that that 96 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:25.079 like lyric where they're like stab it with their steally knives and like it's very 97 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:29.360 eerie, like the way that he walks in and then like he sees his 98 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.399 portrait all like stabbed up, and then there's like a line of like a 99 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:40.920 knife scratching through the hallway and it's just like kind of scary. Yeah, 100 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.639 it's got to be really surreal for him to like the last time he saw 101 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:48.439 the ship it was in good condition. Now it's like a eleminal space yeah 102 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:54.519 thing and full of knives. That scene where he looks up and it's just 103 00:07:54.639 --> 00:08:03.120 knives one spot. Where do they get all these knives? That's crazy. 104 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:09.199 Who's their knife maker? Who's their knife guy? Right, it's probably taken 105 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.399 knives from all the ships they're rating. Maybe, yeah, they got right. 106 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:18.079 They had so much treasure they had to throw some overboard, so surely 107 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.360 they like plundered some knives as well. Somehow she lets them come aboard to 108 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.759 the ship and feeds them. Yeah, that's weird to me, those decisions 109 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:33.000 that she's making. As Auntie kind of pointed out, she's being clouded. 110 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.639 She's she wants to make the soft one happy. Yeah, she's putting a 111 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.039 lot of trust in the fact that this is all Awande's friends and Steed's friends. 112 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.799 So they're feeding them. They get some soup, which they seem very 113 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:48.600 happy about. Yeah, I mean after they ate Robern, I would be 114 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.399 too, But no word on Ed or what happened to him. No, 115 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:58.799 he's retired. Yeah, he's retired. I like that. It seemed like 116 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:00.960 that was a new concept for them. They're like, yeah, apparently if 117 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.000 you don't want to work anymore, you can just well, Steed introduced Blackbeard 118 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.320 to the idea of being retired, so I don't think they did know about 119 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.279 being retired, but I like that friend. She was like introducing it to 120 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:18.080 Steed as if Steve didn't know what it was. Last season, they didn't 121 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:24.360 know what a vacation was. Yeah, so they're just like full of wonder. 122 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:30.679 And then they the eucalyptus. The fact that all one day and Jim 123 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:35.039 couldn't pronounce or say the word eucalyptus was really good. They're like, I 124 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.799 don't know what this. It smells so nice, but I don't know what 125 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.159 it is. And the fact that the towels smelled nice is what causes everyone 126 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.559 to smell them when they received them and helps them out later when they what 127 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.159 they called on it to make them pass out chloroform. No, he said 128 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.879 it's camma meal. I don't think a meal does that. It was something. 129 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.480 But yeah, Auntie is on the case of figuring out what happened, 130 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:01.000 what happened to you. She's kind of like reminding me of Aragon when he's 131 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.879 figuring out what happened to the Hobbits, and he was like a hobbit lay 132 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:11.159 here and hear the other and they crawled their were cut. Yeah, she's 133 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.279 like he's a six foot hair of gray or silver or something. And then 134 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:22.000 she actually finds out that they have been keeping him, but she thinks he's 135 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.080 dead too. Yeah. No one checked for a pulse. No, they 136 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:30.639 don't know about pulses back then. I guess this crew doesn't like to dispose 137 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:37.600 of bodies. Not right away, but immediately after she finds that he's actually 138 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:45.279 like dead, like not retired or whatever, that it was a mutiny, 139 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.320 they get arrested and they put him in the jail cell. Yep, because 140 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.000 you know they've been pretty casual about mutiny up to this point, but we 141 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.919 can see that it doesn't go over well with other captains. Yeah. Yeah, 142 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.679 So the people who are on her crew come to visit them in the 143 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.159 jail cell and they're like, sorry, guys, uh, you know, 144 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:09.080 maybe she'll go easy on you. And Allawandi's definitely trying to broke her a 145 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:15.440 deal with her, but Steed he's like, hell no, we're fucking breaking 146 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:20.240 out. Yeah, And it's it's really sad that Alawande is forced to choose 147 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.720 in the moment. And I don't know if he's happy about his choice or 148 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.519 not. I think he's just like, I think there's a reluctancy, but 149 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:33.360 I think there's also like a loyalty to Jim because he's known Jim for so 150 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.679 much longer and they've been away from each other for a while, and they 151 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.399 came clean to each other about like Jim making out with Archie and everything, 152 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.159 and I think it's just like do you go with your crew or do you 153 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.279 stick around and figure out what this new thing is about. It's hard, 154 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.000 it's a hard decision, and I feel like Allawandi, I don't know, 155 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.120 I don't know if he's like he's like smart, but I don't I don't 156 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:03.480 know if he was prepared because he didn't even realize that Shang liked him. 157 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:09.559 Yeah, well, her seduction was very scary. It was scary. I 158 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.960 was trying to be sexy by pointing this knife at you. What do you 159 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.120 think? It's definitely like I'm going to kill you if you say the wrong 160 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.559 thing here. Yeah, so I don't know if I would feel like comfortable 161 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.679 with that kind of relationship personally, because that's like your boss, right, 162 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:31.480 whereas Jim is like more of his coworker. But they steal the wheel, 163 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:37.879 which is fucking hilarious, like wee John is on the case and he was 164 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.960 so apologetic. He's like, oh, I'm so sorry about this. They 165 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:43.759 also needed a wheel though, Yeah, they needed a wheel, but it 166 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.360 also helped them in their escape. Yeah, so it's like great on both 167 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.279 ends. It was like very well thought out their escape with Black Pete, 168 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.559 Like, Black Pete, you're gonna be the one who shoots the arrow? 169 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.919 Why me? You are just talking about how you have perfect aim. He's 170 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:11.279 such a loser. I just can't with him. Freaking Buttons could not be 171 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:16.399 quiet during there's their escape, Like this very critical moment he was just like, 172 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:22.559 oh, you grade shot. The man does not whisper. No, 173 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.399 he does not whisper. But I like that once he got on his ship, 174 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:31.639 he was immediately like delegating and like assigning tasks. He was ready to 175 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.120 move. Yeah, he's first mate. Yeah. And then when Steed came 176 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.799 aboard, there was a moment between him and is he is. He wanted 177 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.200 to like say thank you, but he didn't let him do it, and 178 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.279 I was like, kind of bat Like, I felt sad because I feel 179 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.240 like that could have been like a way for them to kind of mend their 180 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.679 relationship. So I don't know. I feel like they both love Blackbeard, 181 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.440 and I feel like they have that in common. And I think is he 182 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.399 starting to see the value of Steed? Yeah? You know, we've been 183 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.879 following is He's journey this season, but the last thing Steed saw was is 184 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:09.080 he like selling them out? Yeah? So I think it's it's a pretty 185 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.000 natural reaction for him to be called is he? Yeah? Yeah, is 186 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.000 he is. He's one of the more interesting characters to me, just because 187 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:22.480 he's been in so many different positions as like the antagonists and the victim and 188 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.799 the person who hates Steed and is now like indebted to Steed and it's yeah, 189 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:31.080 he's complex. His journey is not a straight line. Yeah no, 190 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.960 And I think that's what makes him such a strong character in this show. 191 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.799 I really enjoy is he Well, he doesn't do much, but I just 192 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:45.639 in the scope and the whole of the show is he is one of the 193 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.440 characters that definitely stands out. But in this episode, I feel like the 194 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.039 crew is just great together. I don't know, it just it's so It 195 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.559 felt so right for them to be like all gathered up and using their little 196 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:03.320 towel for that little zip line, you know, and they were talking about 197 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.600 paying using two towels because he's a little heavier set. It was cute. 198 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.519 I thought it was fun, like, you know, they're just back to 199 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:16.039 their crewdness. Yeah, and it was nice that it was the towels because 200 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.879 that's was the assignment on the ship. Yeah, And I don't know, 201 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:26.639 it was good. And then this show in this episode is so beautiful, 202 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:31.240 especially when we get to the gravy basket or whatever those shots. That scenery 203 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:39.639 that's setting is so gorgeous. It's so beautiful that it feels otherworldly. It's 204 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:43.559 like a place set in real life and reality, but the way that they 205 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:48.200 shot it made it feel ethereal and I felt like I believed that he was 206 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.879 in this other realm and it's like not anybody could just point a camera out 207 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.399 a beach and capture that, you know. So I was just like very 208 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.440 in awe of that, like being part of this little pirate show. We 209 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:06.000 had this like intermission of like I don't even know how to describe it. 210 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.000 It's just I was in awe. Like I just was like my my breath 211 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.480 was taken away. It was so gorgeous and it was weird and cool and 212 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:25.039 like like I kind of want to go to purgatory. That's maybe the first 213 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:29.799 time that's been said. I mean, you're not in heaven, you're not 214 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.559 in hell, You're just on this beach. Why not some guys they're making 215 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:40.799 shoes. I'm in You get to play innkeeper. Yeah, and then there's 216 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:45.360 like a pig who doesn't want to be around, a pig named Ruthie. 217 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.000 I don't know, I'm into it. It was really cool. It was 218 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:56.960 interesting. It's like Blackbeard coming to terms with his feelings towards himself and how 219 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:03.240 he's behaving and accepting that maybe he's got to die. That's crazy. Yeah, 220 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.599 well, like wondering what he has to live for. And then in 221 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:14.440 the end it's Mermaid Steed. I fucking love this scene. The scene is 222 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:22.359 like a gay fever dream, especially with Ed's hair flowing like so beautifully in 223 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:29.279 the water and Steed this magical mermaid, like made of gold almost. It's 224 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:33.960 just iconic, iconic. Those guys, they held their breath for so long. 225 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.160 It was great. I can't yeah, I don't. Yeah, it 226 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:41.039 was just perfect. That's and that's what like brings him back to life, 227 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:48.160 literally, like that evidence and song you know what what I'm talking about, 228 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:56.559 And and Steed like, you know, he's mourning the loss of his lover. 229 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.039 He's like please, Ed, like I'm sorry, and then starts moving 230 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:07.119 his hand involuntarily, and that gives Steve more hope and more drive to like 231 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.400 keep calling to Ed. And the last thing we see is Ed's eyes open 232 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.559 up. Oh it's so good. It's crazy. I don't know. I'm 233 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.920 just like, I can't even. Yeah. When I was when I saw 234 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.240 like this episode was coming up the way I remembered it, it was like 235 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:27.720 it wasn't as balanced as it actually is in my memory, like the episode 236 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.319 is more balanced than I remembered it being because I thought it was a lot 237 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:36.079 more of just like black Beard in the Gravy Basket. Yeah, but there 238 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.400 was so much else going on, and so yeah, I think I remembered 239 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:44.599 it being much more of this like just character piece for black Beard, which 240 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.200 it is, but I felt like it had just a lot of other elements. 241 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.039 Oh yeah, Yeah, it definitely moves the plot forward. The plot 242 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.480 was moving, it was. It's not stagnant or like a black Beard episode. 243 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.440 Yeah, Like in my mind, like we kind of like breast pause 244 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:02.079 and we're going to deal with Blackbeard and then we're going to pick back up. 245 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:03.920 But that's not really how it felt watching it again. No, this 246 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.720 show doesn't do that. This show is really good about like keeping it moving 247 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:14.279 and going and like setting you up for the next one. It's so good 248 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:17.319 like that. Yeah, it's only eight episodes this season. They got to 249 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:21.359 keep it moving. Yeah, they have a lot to get through. But 250 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.000 yeah, I love this episode. I think it's one of the like, 251 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.759 like the cinematography on it alone is just incredibly I don't know, they should 252 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.680 have gotten an Emmy or something for that. It's so good. People talk 253 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.359 about like Lost being like really beautiful and epic and shit like that, and 254 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:41.319 I'm like, yeah, but what about you know, our flag means death? 255 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:48.720 Like sure, maybe it's like the Pirates. Maybe it's like the humor. 256 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.240 I don't know, but people just didn't take it seriously and in a 257 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.240 lot of ways, and it just it's so good, it's just so disappointing. 258 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.680 Yeah, like sci fi fantasy, assume drama type things don't get a 259 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.799 lot of attention and awards. Yeah, but this one's saying so much like 260 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:11.079 even in the beginning, a woman pirate going through her like everyday shpiel to 261 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.920 these men about how you know, do you want to die surrendering to a 262 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.240 woman or do you want to work for me? Like you know, she's 263 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:23.319 girl bossing. I don't know. It's just really fun and it's like you 264 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:27.680 don't see that a lot in these kind of like I mean, you're seeing 265 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.400 it more now, but it's not I mean, I don't know of a 266 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.880 pirate show that I can think of that had like a very strong female character 267 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:40.279 that wasn't a secondary she's the captain. No offense to Kia Knightley. But 268 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.119 I don't believe she ever captained a ship. Maybe she did in like the 269 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:49.119 seventh movie or something, but I believe the first we ever saw her was 270 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:56.279 her being so tightly wound up in a course that she fell and couldn't swim. 271 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.559 I think she does become a captain at some point. I'm sure she 272 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.519 does. Yeah, I think everyone in that series gets to be a captain 273 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:12.359 astral queen. Who was the stand out character in the episode? Who's your 274 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.519 astral queen? Oh? No, A good question. Who should it be? 275 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.400 Minds Steve Bonnet? Steve, Yeah, for being a go getter and 276 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:25.960 a learner and just going above and beyond, and you know, standing by 277 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.119 his man and apologizing. So that's that's what I was saying. Yeah, 278 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.240 ste he makes most sense. I would say he orchestrated the escape and he 279 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:37.519 brought Blackbeard back. I probably have to pick him, unless I want to 280 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:42.279 pick Auntie's detective skills. But Wundy, she was good. She warned her 281 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:47.079 and she didn't say I told you so, and she should have. She 282 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.480 held her tongue, so that's also good. You're right, I mean, 283 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:56.480 you're you're more than justified and picking Auntie. No, I think it's got 284 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.920 to be Steed. The patriarchy wins again. Yep Steed, Mermaid Steed. 285 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:07.319 Oh yeah, Mermaid Steed. Can I put I'm gonna say mermaid Steve Steve 286 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.319 as a mermaid. It's just iconic. I don't know. It's just like 287 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.200 you see a lot of mermaids on TV, and shit, they're all women 288 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:21.359 with like seashells on their tits. How often do you see a merman rescuing 289 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:26.680 another man and kissing underwater? You may have never seen it before actually at 290 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:30.759 first. Yeah, usually they're you know, they're all jacked. They're Jason 291 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.200 Momoa. He doesn't he's not mermaid. He's got two feet Yeah, but 292 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:41.000 yeah, you're right there. Yeah, with those big Pepperoni nipples. There's 293 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.599 nothing wrong with Pepperoni nipples either. All nipples are valid, but those are 294 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:49.920 Yeah, you're right. Most of these guys have pecks and abs and they're 295 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:56.599 like impossible beauty standards. Steve is like average Joe Merman, murdude, if 296 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.319 you will, middle aged Murman. Yeah, I like it. I like 297 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.960 it a lot. Well, I think that wraps up the main part of 298 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:07.720 the episode, So we will go to the spoiler section next. Oh you 299 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.319 ready, So if you don't want to be spoiled, then you have to 300 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.960 be left behind. The next episode is called fun and Games, and we 301 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.359 will see you for that one sounds fun. Let's put our living stereo stylist 302 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:29.000 in this group. Grace for impact. Spoilers ahead. If you haven't seen 303 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:33.039 the whole series, now is the time to say goodbye. Remember you can 304 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:38.440 contact us at Spacingoutpod at gmail dot com, find us on social media, 305 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:45.359 share your thoughts and be a part of the discussion. Spoilers in five four 306 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.640 three two one. Okay, I really want to talk about is and how 307 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:56.359 fucking tragic is arciss Okay, it's so sad, Like it's just I cannot 308 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.920 believe I still cannot get over the fact that he dies. Because we were 309 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:07.279 talking about like how his character is so complex and different, and there's like, 310 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.039 you know, he's been a victim, he's been the antagonist, and 311 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:18.079 he's gone through a fucking hell in high water to find some sort of semblance 312 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.240 of a life of a happiness, and the fact that he dies is just 313 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.799 so sad. I'm just it's so sad. I can't believe it. I 314 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.720 still can't believe it. I'm so upset about is he dying, Like it's 315 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:34.680 so hard to watch this show knowing that he's going to die, especially after 316 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:41.799 we see him in Calypso's birthday. Calypso's birthday is when Izy kind of metamorphoses 317 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:48.319 into who he truly is, like this beautiful, like glammed up, flamboyant 318 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:53.319 person and you see him shining and then like it all just turns to ash. 319 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.640 It's so sad. Yeah. I don't remember exactly what happens to him, 320 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:02.839 but I know that like he like he's searching for like where he belongs, 321 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.680 and he tries to like cut himself off from the crew, but they 322 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.200 show their respect for him by giving him that leg from the horse on the 323 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.079 ship. Yeah. So yeah, it's been for a heart of a character 324 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:21.119 to stomach as he was originally, Like it's such a it's tragic and it's 325 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.519 kind of like a beautiful arct Like seeing him today at that table when they're 326 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:29.000 all eating that bird carcass, like that's when it hit me like, like 327 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.480 Izzy has he's really like one of the crew. Now, he's not above 328 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.759 them, he's not below them, not like they're all united and equalized. 329 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.519 Yeah, I think and him being like willing to show the humility to say 330 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:47.039 I do want to like say thank you to Steed and like start to mend 331 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.839 that relationship. Yeah, yeah, that was big. That was huge for 332 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:55.480 Izzy. But I think part of it is the fact that he has gone 333 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:00.359 through like so much with black Beard, the fact that he lost his leg, 334 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.799 he lost a pose, like you know, pits and pieces of himself 335 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:08.119 have literally been torn off of him in order for him to be able to 336 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:12.319 feel something like you're right, he's right now, He's at the bottom. 337 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:18.799 And I think this happens a lot with people who experience the loss of like 338 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.200 a limb or an ability like like you know, not being able to walk 339 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:29.559 or do something like if you get diagnosed with an illness something. There's like 340 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.880 a grief process, and I think in this show they show they show this 341 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:42.000 show shows that grief and that loss of that former self so well, it's 342 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:48.559 not like hokey or overdone either. It's just like really real. And I'm 343 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:53.079 really happy that he has those friendships with the crew, like they're able to 344 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.880 forgive him for being a rat bastard. Yeah, and I know that I 345 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.440 know Blackbeard is he's going to be like banished from the ship, but he 346 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.440 gets brought back through Steed, So is he's gonna have to, you know, 347 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.960 be face to face with black Beard again, And I don't remember how 348 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.319 all that goes down, but he forever has this reminder of what black Beard 349 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.920 has done to him, like he can't it's always there with him. Yeah, 350 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.839 but it's I'm just yeah, it's such a tragic figure. I really 351 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:26.119 enjoy the character, and I'm just like every time, I just I will 352 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.000 not be able to forget that he dies. Watch he doesn't die, and 353 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:36.599 I forget. I'm like remembering it wrong. Maybe there's like a post credit 354 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:41.960 scene you didn't watch. Yeah, I don't know. And I'm excited for 355 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:51.920 that episode where they get that cursed outfit. Steve gets that cursed suit and 356 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.799 nobody likes him in that suit, even though he looks great in it, 357 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.200 Like, holy shit, the costume department. That's great. I'm excited for 358 00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.759 that episode. I feel like Steve is gonna slowly become his own pirate. 359 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:08.960 I'm excited for him an Izzy to mend there and build their bridge. Anything 360 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.759 else any spoilers from you, I don't think so. I mean, yeah, 361 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.559 nothing really needs addressed. I'm willing to let the rest of the season 362 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.519 just come as it comes. How many more episodes? Five? Five? 363 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:23.920 That's not a lot, it's not enough. No, well man, the 364 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:30.680 show is so short. Hollywood sucks. And even like the way they released 365 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.119 it, it was like three three and two or something, so it was 366 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.119 like three weeks. Yeah, it was over quickly. Yeah. Yeah, 367 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.599 So I guess that's it. Yeah. Yeah, So we'll see you next 368 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:48.160 time for fun and games. Some fun new characters. Oh, we've got 369 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.799 those the two women running the shop, those two women and the other famous 370 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.640 woman pirate. I think we're name right now. Yeah. Thanks for sailing 371 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:02.240 on the revenge. The Knives really bring the place together. Thank you for 372 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:07.000 spacing out with BB and Jason. You can help us out by subscribing and 373 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.839 leaving a positive rating or review. 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