WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:06.440 Fame. He'd like to be walked on a leash and play really dirty, 2 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:11.119 kinky sex games. He's uh the guy put the cock in the peacock network. 3 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.839 Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody a J. Benzi here for fame 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.359 as a bitch. This is your show for September twenty seven, twenty twenty 5 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:28.199 three, Wednesday. It's the show for my free birds. Here we are 6 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.120 here, you go. Hope your little beaks. Here's a free show for 7 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:37.399 you guys. Cute they look look at you. How daddy's feeding the little 8 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:42.119 birdies. I say that in old seriousness. I'm very happy to do so. 9 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.719 As you know, I took a month off. Wanted you to miss 10 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:51.640 me, so did you. I hope you did. I'm back to stay, 11 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:57.880 but I'm staying only because I want you on that Patreon team. I 12 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.960 want you on the other show. You get more bang for your buck Patreon 13 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.959 dot com. Slash Fame is a bit by the way. We had a 14 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:08.200 bird when I was a kid. We had a minor bird named Dax and 15 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:14.239 beautiful bird. We had the cage in the dining room where we used to 16 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:18.519 eat dinner and stuff, and naturally my father taught him all Italian curse words 17 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:23.480 buff and goul ogistugats non debucco parti, which means don't worry about nothing, 18 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:30.280 just countless curse words. And ship. And my aunt Mary, my father's 19 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:34.120 sister, was very concerned because she lived with us. And Mary used to 20 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.799 go to Hawaii quite a bit. In fact, she went to Hawaii thirty 21 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:42.680 one times, fell in love with a Holly Kulani. I suffered through my 22 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:51.599 childhood listening to Don Hull records Tiny Bubbles and the one make you Feel Happy, 23 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:55.200 Make You Feel Fun. Whenever she started playing that song, my father 24 00:01:55.200 --> 00:02:00.359 would yell upstairs, tiny bubbles, up your ass, Halford, please don't 25 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:06.159 say that. And Mary was nervous because her friend Emmlanie was coming from Hawaii 26 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:12.319 to stay for a week in the guest room in our house. Now was 27 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:14.759 it Mary and lesbian? I don't think so. I mean I used to 28 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:16.639 think so, but mister Roslie as a shoreby, that's not the case. 29 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:21.479 And Mary was in love with a man, two different men at different times. 30 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:24.080 That broke her heart and she kind of gave up and lived a life 31 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:30.120 of traveling. I mean she went everywhere Galapagos islands, islands, I mean 32 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.240 the tips of the world she wanted to. She fed groupers with a big 33 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:37.840 diving bell scooba diving helmet on. I mean, and Mary was a thrill 34 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:43.039 seeking crazy Africa, fell off a truck while elephant was stampeding, broke her 35 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.360 on. I mean, Mary was crazy. Alfred, Please don't let docs 36 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.080 say curses when Emilanie's here, as if Emilanie was better than us. Oh, 37 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.520 Mary, I would never do that. Don't worry about it. As 38 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.680 soon as Emilanie sat down for dinner, up your ass, up your ass 39 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:00.960 by fun gle bifun gle. And then Melanie started laughing and Mary was red 40 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:07.159 as a lobster. The funny thing with Dax was we had two phones, 41 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.599 one of the kitchen and one straight upstairs on a little glass tabletop for Rosalie, 42 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.199 Lorraine, at Mary and I because we my mother and father stopped upstairs 43 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:20.800 as well. Phone upstairs, a phone in the kitchen. Well, what 44 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.960 happened a lot in the course of our days was the phone would ring, 45 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.680 and you know, and Mary might be upstairs, my mother's downstairs. One 46 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.520 of them grabbed the phone and the other would say, I got it, 47 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.719 I got it. You know. It was like an automatic Well, the 48 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:42.759 bird picked that up, so several times people got hung up on it because 49 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.960 somebody who picked the phone up and the bird would yell I got it, 50 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.000 and the other person would hang up, and that meant the person calling just 51 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:53.639 got disconnected live phone with the bird. Jack's Dax died. We used to 52 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:59.159 put the the big black curtain over its cage at night before he went to 53 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.080 bed, and he would always say, bought a sana, banna, sana, 54 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:04.439 good night, good night das in the morning, you take the blanket 55 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:12.000 off by drawn, by drawing no. And one night we forgot to put 56 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.399 the black sheet over his cage, and apparently one of our three cats jumped 57 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.560 on top of the cage. Because they were very interested in him. They 58 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:21.800 used to jump on the hutch and look at the kids to get down, 59 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:29.519 Get down. We had Bidojo Badacci and Tabitha and Badacci, but Dad, 60 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.240 she was more of a hunter type and she must have jumped on top of 61 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:36.439 the cage and gave the bird a heart attack and they went das. Before 62 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.480 I begin the show, I want to say something. I said this to 63 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:45.560 my patrons weeks ago, really bothering me. It came up again in the 64 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:51.199 conversation I have with a girlfriend. It really bothers me. You know, 65 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:58.800 months ago, my good friend Drina de Niro, Robert de Niro's daughter, 66 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.639 lost her son to a well to fentanyl, to a fent atyl overdose. 67 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:10.680 The kid was not a drug addict. He was nineteen years old. He 68 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.279 had just recently moved out from his mom's apartment in New York City, got 69 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:20.560 his own place, and he look. I don't know, maybe he was 70 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.879 addicted. I don't know, but I want to be careful what I say 71 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:29.600 because I think the world of Drina, and it's horrible that she lost a 72 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:34.639 child. I can't even imagine. And you know, I spoke to her, 73 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:38.519 I wrote her, I write her when whenever she's on Instagram and she 74 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.560 puts pictures up of her son all the time, Leandro, cute kid. 75 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:49.800 And when it happened, it was heartbreaking, obviously, and Drina wrote many, 76 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:53.839 many passages and she still does about how much she misses and loves him, 77 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:58.959 of course, but yet I'll put pictures of a tutsie and dream it 78 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:00.560 will comment. Then she laughs about how crazy he too. He looks, 79 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.959 So I get I get happy knowing that she can at least step away from 80 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:08.560 that grief and find happiness somewhere, even if it's a silly picture of my 81 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.879 dog. But I can't help but say this, and I don't want to. 82 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:18.439 You know, there's nothing about Drena, but this poor kid died because 83 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:25.120 the pill he got, whatever he asked for, contained fentyl and he died, 84 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.680 just found dead July two. And Drena went on the war path and 85 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.800 said, the people seldom that pill knew, they knew what they were giving 86 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:39.560 him, because you know, we're in a nightmare of addiction and fentyl overdoses, 87 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:44.959 and that's what killed my son. My son suffered tremendously through the pandemic, 88 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.959 as maybe many of your kids had. Sadly, addiction took over in 89 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:54.680 his last year and eventually killed him. Okay, being very honest about what 90 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.120 her boy went through. And it's horrible to even think that that can happen 91 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.879 to our children. But the fact is it did. And the bigger fact 92 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.879 is the reason why Fentinel is in this country as much as it is is 93 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:12.759 because of the southern border, because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris the borders are 94 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.639 and all the other assholes in the Biden administration don't do a goddamn thing but 95 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.720 make believe the boarder is closed. They make believe every day the board is 96 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:25.160 fine. The borders closed, they say. And yet you put on TV 97 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:30.639 and you see pictures of illegal immigrants on trains coming in. You see them 98 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:38.639 walking across the Rio grand You see them walking for miles, just hell bent 99 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:41.240 on getting in the country, and they know they will get in, and 100 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.399 once they get in, they get everything for free. We all know that 101 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.879 stuff. This is not about that stuff. This is about the fact that 102 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:51.199 a man as powerful as Robert de Niro, who's in with all the Democrats, 103 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:55.600 and I mean I would, I would. I would say he's probably 104 00:07:56.519 --> 00:08:01.720 top five or ten powerful liberals in Hollywood. Would you say he knows where 105 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.600 these drugs are coming from. He knows Fentinel's coming from down South, and 106 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:11.319 Joe Biden, the man he voted for from the party he adores, is 107 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:16.480 allowing it. Now. I'm gonna put myself in Robert DeNiro's shoes. If 108 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:24.079 I lost my grandson to a poison and a drug that comes from these fucks 109 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.120 across the border, I don't care where it originates in China. That's bad 110 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.159 enough. Don't ask me how I feel about that country, but the fact 111 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:35.200 that it gets it, that it gets into Mexico, and then these pieces 112 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.679 of shit walk across the border with a strap to their back, and Biden 113 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.960 and his friends do nothing about it. If I'm Robert DeNiro, you could 114 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.639 make such a big dent in this problem by opening your mouth and saying you 115 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:52.159 lost a grandson. This affected you personally. You love that little boy. 116 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:58.440 I've seen the pictures. What bothers me is a guy as powerful as Robert 117 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:03.320 DeNiro doesn't open his mouth and have a meeting with Joe Biden or go on 118 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:09.480 the record and just say it. The border has to be stronger, strengthened. 119 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:13.279 We can't live like this anymore. He's in a perfect position to make 120 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:20.320 that statement, and yet he won't because he's liberal hardcore, and he's a 121 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.480 Democrat hardcore, and amazingly he thinks Joe Biden is doing a great job. 122 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:31.360 And I just don't know what to say. I mean, you know, 123 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.039 I don't want to join as a personal friend. And I've gone out with 124 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:39.399 her, We've been buddies for a long time, real New York chick. 125 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:46.279 I really like her a lot she's a Tiger mom. But yet they have 126 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.519 Joe Biden on speed dial, or anybody that's powerful in the Democratic Party on 127 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:58.039 speed dial. Use that strength, use that influence, and make America see 128 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.440 that you're with us. Whatever. How do you vote with that? You 129 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.679 want that ball to shut down? Come on, man, just bothers the 130 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:15.759 shit out of me. I thought better of him. Anyhow, I wanted 131 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:20.480 to talk about another hard luck woman, another hard luck actress. I had 132 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:26.240 some really great stories last week or two. It's all some great stories in 133 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:33.200 the patron page about Susan Cabot and so many actresses from Hollywood's Golden era who 134 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.000 died and had problems with addiction and PTSD and rape and bulimia and drugs and 135 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:43.879 sexual problem. It just murder, addiction, so many problems, and their 136 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:52.679 careers just withered away. And alcohol two was a big one. Alcohol addiction 137 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.440 was a big one. And for a guy that just quit Booze, I 138 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:01.039 didn't give you guys the whole story that my patrons know how crazy it was 139 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.759 for me to quit Cold Turkey and what I went through. The hallucinations, 140 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.240 I mean, the dts, the seeing people in my room, not seeing 141 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:13.600 people. I would have been everything in my life that that person. Those 142 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.519 people were in my room. I was talking to a bed with nobody on 143 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.080 it, but I was convinced that I was talking to so and so on 144 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.679 my bed. It was terrifying. I'll never go through it again because I 145 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.919 won't drink again. So that was a big thing when it came to these 146 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.240 old hard luck actresses. But one person I want to talk about because somebody 147 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.000 one of my patrons. Hey man, you know that's a great story. 148 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.440 You did the mysteries and scandals on it, but I never heard you talk 149 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:43.039 about him on the show. And that is a woman named Yvette Vicars. 150 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:48.120 Evette was an actress, playboy playmate, and what a horrible death. Not 151 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.720 many people know this story, but back in twenty ten, the Los Angeles 152 00:11:52.919 --> 00:12:00.159 Police Department found a mummified body in the home of the former playmate and B 153 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:05.600 movie actress Evette Vickers. A neighbor noticed letters and cobwebs and Vickers mailbox. 154 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.600 She went into the house and discovered a body upstairs next to a still running 155 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.279 space heater, and the body appeared to have been there anywhere from several months 156 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:20.960 to a year. She was eighty two years old Evette Vickers appeared in movies 157 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.399 like Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman an Attack of the Giant Leeches. That 158 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:31.919 movie poster read crawling horror, rising from the depths of hell to kill and 159 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.080 conquer. And like I said, she was also a Playboy Playmate of the 160 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.039 Month in July of nineteen fifty nine. She looked good man, I'm talking 161 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.159 knockout. She had friends, but mostly kept to herself. She was more 162 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:52.600 of an independent type spirit, and as she got older and further away from 163 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:58.240 people's memories and very far away from anybody in Hollywood, she would still get 164 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.080 cards and letters from all over the world requesting photographs and all sorts of fans 165 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:09.799 still wanting to be her friend. It's very sad, sad story, but 166 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.799 like I said, I've heard way too many times stories like this when it 167 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.240 comes to how some people are treated once the phone stops ringing with work. 168 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.240 One thing that bugs me. If she was lying dead that long, why 169 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:28.080 was her phone still connected? Why was her electricity still running to run that 170 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:35.559 heater? Who was paying her bills? Weird right, paying her bills but 171 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.399 not talking to her, not speaking to her for all that time while she 172 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:46.960 lay dead, weird. But if that Thinkers was a pin up girl and 173 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.279 did some cool and schlocky movies. You know I'm talking about some Some of 174 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:56.799 those movies and the actors in them make us laugh more than a big budget 175 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.039 comedy pack with box office stars. Was he to Hangover? Three? Awful? 176 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.879 Hang Over one, tremendous Hangover, Hangover two pretty good? The third 177 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:11.320 one terrible. I saw one of those movies the other night. It was 178 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.879 called Sorority Row, some shitty slash or flick with a bunch of chicks in 179 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.120 it. But it had Audrina part Audrina Patridge in it, and I've always 180 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.200 thought she's cutie, so I tuned it. Oh my god, is she 181 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.799 a horrible actress? Jesus Christ, So was everybody. But it was so 182 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.440 bad it was funny, And then I couldn't believe my eyes because of old 183 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.879 people. Carrie Fisher turned up in this movie. She played one of the 184 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.879 girls mothers. Maybe she owed somebody a favor. I noticed she didn't need 185 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:48.159 the money. I couldn't believe I saw her in this shitty movie. Now, 186 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.879 most people know Carrie Fisher for her role as Princess Leia and the Star 187 00:14:52.679 --> 00:15:00.360 Wars films, a lot of people don't realize that her writing career spans farther 188 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:05.000 than the best selling books and novels that she wrote. Over the years, 189 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.919 people have described Carrie Fisher as one of the most sought after script doctors in 190 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:15.639 town. And she worked without credit on the films like Hook, Last Action 191 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:22.279 Hero, even the Star Wars prequels, and a lot more stuff. But 192 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.360 I'll get back to carrying a second. But let me get back to Vickers. 193 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.480 Is this show is going to jump back and forth. But Vickers was 194 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.759 a second generation jazz child. Put it that way. Her mother, her 195 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.840 parents were into jazz. Her father played sacks. His name is Charlie Vetter, 196 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.799 his mom played Her mom played piano, Maria Vettter out in Kansas City's 197 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:48.159 jazz scene. And Yvette learned to sing while she hung around those clubs as 198 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.679 a kid while her parents did their thing. And she came to LA studied 199 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:58.480 at UCLA and got some work in TV commercials. Her first role a little 200 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.720 bit of flash. She part in the movie Sunset Boulevard, all my favorite 201 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.799 movies. It's a quick little part, not really important to the film. 202 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:14.799 But as she is, took some classes under skills then She got married from 203 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:18.039 fifty three to fifty seven to a guy named Don Prell. He was a 204 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:23.320 bass player. Then she did some stuff like Reform School Girl, Sad Sack. 205 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:29.399 She worked with Jimmy Cagney and Short Cut to Hell. But really the 206 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:34.240 big movies weren't in her repertoire. She made b movies teen Exploitation or Horror 207 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.440 Flix, Juvenile Jungle, and like I said, Attack of the Fifty Foot 208 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:42.879 Woman, an Attack of the Giant Leeches. She also posed for men's magazines, 209 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:47.240 and that was a second career that really got her a lot of a 210 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:53.240 lot of notice. Russ Meyer a man who loved women, big breasted women. 211 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:59.320 He photographed her centerfold image and her husband did not like that she was 212 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:00.960 married to a guy, and Leonard Burns he didn't like the way her career 213 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.599 was going that suddenly she's a pin up. After three months he split. 214 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:11.599 Then she did Broadway one show The Gang's All Here with Melvin Douglas, E. 215 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.720 G. Marshall, Arthur Hill, Bert Wheeler, nice cast. That 216 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.039 increased their visibility. So she's thinking here I'd come Hollywood, get ready. 217 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.720 She was sleeping with big shots, Ralph Meeker, Jim Hutton, Timothy Hutton's 218 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:29.200 dad, Lee Marvin, one of the toughest bastards in Hollywood, and the 219 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:34.519 Italian director Franko Rossi also had some affairs with Carrie Grant, Mortzol and Howard 220 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:40.599 Hughes, who I don't think he ever didn't have sex with a girl in 221 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:45.640 Hollywood whose chest was I mean Holad went for a sea cupping better less than 222 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:51.400 see he didn't see you. You know. He made a braw for Jane 223 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:56.440 Russell, right, He concocted and came up with a bra for Jane Russell 224 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.559 because she was so top heavy. Loved his titster Howard us before he went 225 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.400 bananas and hid in the hotel and grew his nails nine inches long, and 226 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:11.519 oh what a psycho he was. Vickers also acted in a TV commercials and 227 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:17.160 shows drag Net, One Step Beyond. She made films like Beach Party and 228 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:21.480 Hudd. Hudd was a good movie, big movie, but that began to 229 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:26.640 dry up. You know, it happens in this town, happens in this 230 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.319 down. TV shows like Emergency, I watched that. In the late seventies, 231 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.440 things just were not going her way. She got work as a real 232 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.680 estate agent, not of fact, whenever you're in La he's looking for a 233 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.640 place to live and a moderately pretty woman shows you a home. You can 234 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.640 bet that she was once a an actress who didn't quite make it and then 235 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.279 went back to real estate. It's okay, there's no shame in that it 236 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.880 took this shot. It didn't work out, or maybe it did work out 237 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:55.880 for a while, and then it thought of the slowdown and they couldn't pay 238 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:00.279 for their their apartment or home whatever you want to call their car pa and 239 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.200 things. They're getting bed And when that happens to a pretty woman out here, 240 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.440 they normally hook up with a guy with money. But then you were 241 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.279 a slave to that guy, so I give him. I take my hat 242 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:12.759 off to these girls who go fuck it. I'm gonna get my own job 243 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:18.160 and make my own money. And that's what i vet Vickers did. She'd 244 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.799 made a song. She recorded a song called the Leechers Are Crawling all over 245 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:26.480 Me, not a catchy tune. She did that with a punk group called 246 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:33.200 Nick v Room's Tomb, and her career got goosed a little after that. 247 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.000 Then she appeared in the horror film in nineteen ninety called Evil Spirits with Karen 248 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:45.880 Black, the Horror Queen, and Artie Johnson. I'm Artie Johnson from laughing. 249 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.480 Are you guys old enough to him? A laughing Artie Johnson had arrived 250 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:53.640 this little tricycle for kids and chase Ruth Buzzy around. Another sketch. She 251 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.119 would have that German army helmet on and he would look through some bushes and 252 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:04.960 then turned to the camera and just say very interesting but stupid, and people 253 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.079 would laugh. Why do we laugh at that ship back then? How starved 254 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:14.519 were we for good comedy? Horrible? Not funny at all? Or now 255 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:18.160 I'm jumping back to Carrie Fisher. This is an event. This is a 256 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:25.680 Vickers Fisher podcast. So most people know Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia obviously, 257 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.720 but tremendous writers. She was one of the most sought after script doctors in 258 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:36.480 town and she worked a lot of times without credit on the films that she 259 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:41.559 worked with. She wrote for the Movie's Hook, Last Action Hero. She 260 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:47.079 even wrote some Star Wars prequels and a lot more. By the nineteen nineties, 261 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.759 she was one of the top script doctors in town and she was always 262 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:56.920 called in to help fix or improve movie scripts. Most films feature one or 263 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.279 two or maybe a handful of names in the writing credits. But these big 264 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:07.279 Hollywood blockbusters are a lot of time the work of a lot more uncredited writers 265 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:12.400 who they bring in to polish, to polish a character up, or punch 266 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:18.240 up jokes, make the dialogue better, and other story elements. The Flintstones 267 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:26.359 movie had over thirty uncredited screenwriters and it was still shit. Some scripts you 268 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:33.119 just can't fix, because some stories should not ever become movies like The Flintstones. 269 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.319 In fact, I watched good Will Hunting Lass Saturday for about the twenty 270 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.480 fifth time. I love that movie, and a lot of people don't know 271 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.000 just how many script doctors Harvey Weinstein brought on to make that, you know, 272 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:49.920 to make what Matt Damon and Ben Affleck wrote into the Hollywood classic it 273 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:55.000 became. Now. I know, Kevin Smith, who made Clerks and Chasing 274 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:59.400 Amy and Dogma, he was brought in did a lot of work on it. 275 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.920 But Harvey told me himself that he had as many as fifteen script doctors 276 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:11.279 come in and add their touches to the Goodwill Hunting script. He said the 277 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.480 original script that Ben and Matt turned in didn't even have the love story in 278 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:19.079 it. There was no part for Mini Driver in their version. I don't 279 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.279 know what they were thinking. You always need a love story of some kind 280 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:27.279 of love conflict in a movie. Where would Goodwill Hunting be without Matt Damon's 281 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:33.920 attraction and love for Mini Driver? It doesn't make any sense. And Matt 282 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.640 and Ben got this big head that hey, we wanted the Oscar for best 283 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.720 Screenwriting, and Harvey was like, hold on, you're handing me a script 284 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:47.759 that was a rock and we polished it into a diamond. Okay, let's 285 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.079 calm down here. And when they won the Oscar in the movie had a 286 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:56.559 second wave of making money. Ben and Matt were getting real squawky. They 287 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.519 wanted more money than what they were paid, and they kept they kept screaming 288 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.640 at Harvey. They were kind of making these statements and magazine articles, and 289 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:08.599 Harvey didn't like it because, yes, the movie was now making money. 290 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:12.880 But they tend to forget that what they handed in was not what we saw 291 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.720 on the screen, what we fell in love with on the screen. So 292 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:19.000 I've told this story before, but one day Harvey went and met them at 293 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:23.200 the hotel they were at and handed them a million dollars in a hefty garbage 294 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.359 bag and threw it on the bed and said, now shut your fucking mounds. 295 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:30.720 You're not going to get one more penny out of me. That's it, 296 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:36.799 and he walked out. Love those stories. The point is this, 297 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:41.920 You may love a movie and not even know who the writer is who made 298 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.720 it your favorite movie. Because most, if not all, script doctors go 299 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:51.119 uncredited. They make a ship ton of money, but rarely have their names 300 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:55.519 attached, and that's fine. Sometimes they don't want their names attached because they 301 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.920 know the script they were handed as awful and there's not much they can do 302 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:03.119 to make it any good, so they cast a check, but they don't 303 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.599 want to be connected to a really shitty movie can hurt their chances down the 304 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:11.079 road. The big script doctors have included William Goldman, arguably the best screen 305 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.359 runner of all time, Quentin Tarantino, Aaron Sorkin who was tremendous, David 306 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:21.400 Mammitt, another tremendous writer, Akiva Goldsman, Frank Darabont, Josh Weedon. 307 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.640 Josh Weedon was a script doctor on a lot of films, including water World, 308 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.240 Speed Twister, X Men. And the call usually comes when they're making 309 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:36.839 a movie already and they shouldn't be okay, and then the script doctor faces 310 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:40.839 a number of challenges from hey, you know, this one scene doesn't work. 311 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:47.079 To Jesus, this script sucks. But the basic charge remains the same. 312 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:52.799 Connect whatever dots they already have, and it's taking whatever they're married to 313 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:56.079 and then trying to work something good in between the cracks of it. That's 314 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.559 what script doctors do. It's hard to find a lot of maation on the 315 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.440 movies that carry worked on, and that's typical. But I bumped into her 316 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.200 at a party when I first got to La and of course you remembered that 317 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.759 she and I both studied with the same acting coach, Mira Rostova, back 318 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:18.359 in Manhattan in the eighties. And during those days, Carrie was there for 319 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.440 my first audition for this big teacher of Mira Rostova, Russian woman stage actress 320 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:32.240 who was Montgomery Cliffs coach and helped Malon Brando for a bit. Tremendous actress, 321 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:37.920 What a great teacher. Jessica Lang, Went ALC. Baldwin, Madonna, 322 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:45.519 Richard Kylie of God, Almanda Sante, so many more. Kevin McCarthy, 323 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.279 he was in my class and Carrie Fisher. And when I was auditioning 324 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:55.680 Foramira, Carrie walked in and she kind of interrupted, and Oham's so sorry. 325 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.960 But she was there to ask my teacher, our teacher if she wanted 326 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:04.039 to go to the premiere of the second Star Wars film, and my coach, 327 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:07.000 our coach didn't want to go. And she asked me on the spot 328 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.519 with a carry a Fisher right there, do you like the Stars movies, 329 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.720 the Space movies? And I have to be honest and no, I don't 330 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.720 like them. Never cared for space movie star Trek. I don't like any 331 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.279 of that ship. And Carrie liked that I was honest, so we stayed 332 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:25.160 friendly, and after class sometimes we go out and bang around Grantwich Village and 333 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:30.359 get a cup of coffee and talk shit. But I'm walking around Manhattan with 334 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.720 Princess Leia and a lot of people didn't recognize her, but whenever someone did, 335 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.000 they go bananas. And she told me she can't go in there young 336 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:42.039 boys because she knows they all masturbate to her, so she stays away from 337 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.079 them as much as she can. She says, you know, I was 338 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.920 signing an autograph for them, but they're staring at my kids, and I'd 339 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:49.480 say, but how can you blame me? You got a great rat carry 340 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.000 and then she'd punched me in the arm. But she admitted to me once 341 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.440 that being a script doctor is a good job, but it's a job that 342 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.200 she didn't really look to get. And she said it began on the set 343 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.079 of Star Wars. Harrison Ford would rewrite his dialogue to fit in better, 344 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.240 and then that would fuck up Carrie's line. So she began to rewrite her 345 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:14.200 lines too, And I couldn't believe that George Lucas would allow this, but 346 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.079 she said it's easier as an actor to go into rewriting because you know what 347 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.920 would fit into your mouth dialogue wise, And I would tell George, you 348 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:27.640 can type this shit, but you can't say it. I know exactly what 349 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:34.119 she means. As performers, we know what words give us trouble and which 350 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:40.359 ones just slide effortlessly out of our mouths. When I got Bill's palsy twenty 351 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:44.119 years ago, and to this day, I have to write a certain way 352 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.880 because I know what words come out of my mouth with ease and which ones 353 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.440 give me trouble. Sometimes a word the last letter of a word and the 354 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.720 beginning the first letter of the next word, don't mess together in my mouth. 355 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.920 I have to change the dialogue completely so it suits me better and I 356 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.680 could speak more freely. Yeah, it's a little Painley asked, not the 357 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.880 end of the world, but whatever. But George Lucas liked the uncredited dialogue 358 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.480 revisions that Carrie Fisher did on the set of Star Wars because he asked her 359 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.799 to write an episode of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, and then Lucas asked 360 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.240 her to punch up the Star Wars prequels, and eventually she provided some rewrites 361 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.960 on the Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith. 362 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.240 I bet she didn't know that. Oh and by the way, I'll 363 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:33.119 get back to a vet vicar who's just had to get off at this eg 364 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.039 for a few minutes before I forget. But after carry Fisher overdose and wrote 365 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.680 a book called post Guards from the Edge, which was all about how she 366 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.519 had to move in with her mom, Debbie Reynolds and after the overdose, 367 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.319 and it was a best seller. It was a great book. Then she 368 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.920 went on to adapt the book into a movie that starred Mel Streep as her 369 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.039 Shirley McClain as her mom, and Dennis Quay nominated for two Academy Awards, 370 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:02.359 three Golden Globes, and based on that seven Spielberg came calling and he loved 371 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.119 her writing so much he asked her to rewrite tinker Bell's dialogue and the movie 372 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:10.920 Hook, and whenever Tinkerbell interacted with another character, she was asked and paid 373 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:18.400 to rewrite entire scenes. Carrie was uncredited for writing or rewriting comedic dialogue for 374 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:23.680 Julia Roberts Tinkerbell character and the Hook. Screenwriter Jim Hart said to Spielberg, 375 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.680 you know, Steven tends to use writers like paintbrushers. He wants this writer 376 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.160 for that, this writer for this. And the joke was that everybody in 377 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.400 town who had Steven's facts number was writing for that movie. But whatever Carrie 378 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.920 wrote on the movie Hook launched her into this career of doing uncredited writing gigs 379 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:47.880 all around town. She said she enjoyed working with Steven Spielberg on Hoop because 380 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.000 it was just nice being treated with a different kind of respect then certainly it 381 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.720 would be as an actor, but she didn't seem to like the project a 382 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.599 lot. And she told a friend of hers that she took another rewriting job 383 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.440 just to get off of that one. It comes to Merry go Round. 384 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:11.240 So it went from Hook to Sister Act to Lethal Weapon three, to The 385 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.039 River Wild to Kyote Ugly to Kate and Leopold to Mister or missus Smith, 386 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.200 and then she became known as a script doctor who could flesh out of female 387 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:27.519 characters and add some really great humor and fixed dull dialogue exchanges. And Carrie's 388 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:33.559 mantra was make the women smarter and the love scenes better. Sounds easy, 389 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.559 but it's not easy at all to grab someone else's work and make changes. 390 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.559 My buddy Neil Gumpel has done that quite a bit, and it's hard, 391 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:47.839 but he's good at that. You got to respect the original tone or the 392 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.319 dialect of the original and then try to rewrite it according to what it already 393 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:57.680 is. It's not easy. And then Carrie punched up the wedding singer Whoopie 394 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.640 Goldberg, beg go to work on Sister Act to whoopify the dialogue. Then 395 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.359 would be hired to punch up Made in America, which was a critical failure 396 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.559 but made a lot of money internationally. And get this on the film Outbreak. 397 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.759 Carry was one of the one of a couple of screenwriters brought on board 398 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.440 to help improve the screenplay. It was reported at a time that she was 399 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:25.640 being paid a hundred thousand dollars a week for her work. You imagine one 400 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.400 hundred grand a week, and that's nothing. By the way, it got 401 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:34.440 to a point where script would be questionable and some scared shit executive would give 402 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:41.519 it to Carry along with a million dollars check and say here, and then 403 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.160 once she worked, he would say, Okay, the script is fortified. 404 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.519 Now we gave it vitamins. It needed the woman's touch, so I gave 405 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.920 it to carry Fisher. And believe it or not, that makes some people 406 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:57.839 at the studio breathe easier throwing money at this enormous behemoth, because then if 407 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.079 the movie sucks, they could say, it's not our fault. We gave 408 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:06.839 it to the best in the business. That's how much money is floating around. 409 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.599 But then, just as fast as script doctoring fell on her lap, 410 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.799 she quit doing it in the early aughts, just stopped. She stopped because 411 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.000 the old guard in Hollywood was giving way to the new guard, and the 412 00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.519 new guard or a bunch of pussies, and now it's all changed. Now 413 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.119 in order to get a rewrite job, you got to submit your notes for 414 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.359 your ideas on how to fix the script. So they get all the notes 415 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.279 from all different writers, they keep the notes, and then they don't hire 416 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:38.039 you. That's known as free work, and that's bullshit. And that's the 417 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.839 way Carry saw it too, and good for her, and that's a big 418 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.759 reason why so many movies come in in five or six nowadays. Maybe if 419 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.960 Carrie was still around and she would call it to punch things up, you 420 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.960 might see more sevens and eights, because God knows we need it. I 421 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:59.160 don't think people realize how much the movie industry has changed for the worst for 422 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.079 two major reasons. And God help me if you're gonna get mad at me. 423 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:06.240 But the first reason is this Harvey Weinstein, who knew the secret sauce 424 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:12.680 is gone, and with him went a metric ton of great dialogue and great 425 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.200 casting choices and great producers. He knew who to put together. That's the 426 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.000 secret sauce, and Carry's gone, and with her went any number of ideas 427 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:27.319 to punch up women's dialogue and make love scenes better and have women treated better 428 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.400 at a time in Hollywood they needed more than anything. Boy this Hollywood Miscarrie 429 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.680 Fisher. They may not miss Harvey Weinstein openly, but the people in the 430 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.599 movie business know that those two people, one in prison, one dead, 431 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.920 are a big reason why movies are not what they used to be, particularly 432 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:50.440 for women. Anyhow, a little more event Vickers on the way out, 433 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.279 See I did this, say in and out little snakey here, snakey there. 434 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.680 They tried to. You know, if you do something every day, 435 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:05.599 you gotta try new things. What can I tell you? So what have 436 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.639 I brought up in the last two weeks with respect to Summony, these hard 437 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:15.159 luck actresses in Hollywood. The common thread that had attached all of them is 438 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:21.480 two things, mainly two evil things, mental illness and alcohol abuse. And 439 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.480 Yvette Vickers suffered from both, and it became more and more obvious when she 440 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:30.079 would show up to an autograph convention smelling a booze and sometimes being snappy with 441 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.440 her fans. You know, when I did Celebrity Fit Club and I worked 442 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:40.960 with Teena, You others and Aaron Morran, Willie Willie Aames, Dustin Diamond, 443 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:46.679 people who had hit TV series that came and went, and beyond that, 444 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.239 I mean, Willy Ames got work a lot, but beyond that, 445 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.800 Aaron Morran, teena others, and Dustin Diamond never really got big work anymore. 446 00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.760 I'm not sure what they did with their money, but I know Aeron 447 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.239 Moran didn't really have money anym more. After Happy Days and Joni Loves Shachi, 448 00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.800 she was on her ass to be quite frank, and she was drinking 449 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:13.360 a lot. Those reality shows they leave the liquor out all night. I 450 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.960 never touched it on those shows. I know exactly what they try to do. 451 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:21.559 Aaron couldn't stop herself from touching it. But more important, I remember 452 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:27.599 how one day she needed to get off and work an autograph convention and she 453 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:32.039 couldn't get off because we were busy filming, and she got bananas because she 454 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.119 was trying to tell everybody, and she ended up really yelling that that is 455 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:43.559 her livelihood. She depends on these autograph conventions to get money. Said, 456 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.400 I mean, she was drunk, and she was also very belligerent about needing 457 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.599 to go to this autograph. You don't realize how much money I make. 458 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.360 I need this for my life. It was like, oh my god, 459 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.719 let her go, just let her go. They let her go because she 460 00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.440 was having a conniption fit. So what happens to these people in Hollywood who 461 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.000 just don't have anything else to fall on and don't have any of the job 462 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:13.639 they do? But if that Thinkers was bright and intelligent. But then she 463 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.360 became very paramentive about people stalking her and you know, talking about her behind 464 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.519 her back. And this all began when she became very overweight and began to 465 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:28.559 lose her looks. She also became very delusional after she was no longer invited 466 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.920 to film festivals that tended to be an ego boost for a lot of actors 467 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.039 and actresses who had been forgotten from Hollywood, and she would tell people she 468 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.800 owns property and places that she didn't. At one point, she thought a 469 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.920 casting agent was doing her harm, and her friends knew that wasn't true, 470 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.639 and then she began cutting important people out of her life because she thought they 471 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.960 were trying to harm her. This is where friends should have stepped in and 472 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.880 put her in a goddamn mental health facility. Maybe they tried. I don't 473 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.599 have the whole story, but it's a shame because it wasn't always that way 474 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:06.159 event. Victors was a stone cold knockout in her day. In fact, 475 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:13.000 her Playboy pictorial was so ahead of its time that you Hefner thought he might 476 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.800 have to reshoot it for fear he was going to get in trouble. Back 477 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.840 then, nineteen fifty nine, Playboy had only been around for six years. 478 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.440 And Victor's pictorial, I've seen the picture. She's it's beautiful. She's very 479 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.239 sexy. She's lying face down on the couch. All you see is her 480 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.079 perfect ass. It's hard to believe that would frighten you Hefter, but it 481 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:39.360 did. And at her peak with the Attack of the fifty foot Woman in 482 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.039 Attack of the Leeches. At her peak, she lived in Beverly Hills and 483 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:49.079 Benedict Canyon, very prestigious part of Beverly Hills, and she was once a 484 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.679 very vibrant presence in that community. People would see her singing and dancing. 485 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:58.480 But near the end of her life she began to act what do I always 486 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.960 say, crazier than a shit house rat, right, and that will also 487 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.360 be on the final exam. One day, but she would see a car 488 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.360 parked on the street and say, I think they're stocking me. They're stocking 489 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:16.119 me. She got very paranoid, and people in the canyon typically cold water 490 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:22.960 Benedict Laurel. They valued their privacy and they left her alone until the very 491 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:27.440 end. And the very end was A neighbor was walking her dog up the 492 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.400 street and noticed some yellowing envelopes and cobwebs outside of the vet vicar's home. 493 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.199 Now, this woman had just lost a friend that Easter, and she felt 494 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.440 like doing something good. And even though a vet vicar's phone was still in 495 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.679 service, which I find weird, and there were no suspicious smells coming from 496 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:51.159 her home, the woman had a hunch that something was wrong. A small, 497 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:57.079 reddish brown, two story house had fallen into disrepair, a lot of 498 00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:02.440 overgrown grass and vegetation. Some old wood was holding up part of her door 499 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.920 frame. The front door had a panel broken. Duct tape was all around 500 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.000 it. Never a good signed. Too much duct tape, Someone's losing to 501 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:16.480 mind. Rusty umbrellas hung out on the tiny upstairs balcony. The shingles on 502 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:22.400 the house for pauling apart. So this woman walks up to the front door 503 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:27.960 and calls inside the house several times and heard the phone ring, and after 504 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.840 looking through the windows, and seeing nothing because of obstructions, she pushed open 505 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:38.320 the door and went inside, and then she found the mummified remains of Yvette 506 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.920 Vicars. The cause of death, they say, was a heart attack, 507 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:50.760 and she'd been dead for nearly a year, the last time she'd been seen 508 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:57.599 or heard from by neighbors and her few remaining friends nearly a year. You 509 00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.519 know, a lot of neighbors in that part of town, up in the 510 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.960 hills, they a bad rap for not checking in on people, and nobody 511 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:06.320 had checked out on event Vickers before this woman had the courage to find her. 512 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.719 And the people who live up there are not inconsiderate people, but they 513 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:15.079 do keep to themselves. But event Vickers was a recluse by her own choice. 514 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.920 But when something like that happens on your own block, you start second 515 00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:22.840 guessing yourselves. What are you living like that for? Why are you not 516 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:29.119 reaching out to your neighbors. These are long time neighbors, and they do 517 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:34.719 respect each other's privacy, But there is such a thing as respecting your privacy 518 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.880 too much that you don't know what your neighbor has been for a year. 519 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:45.480 And it took one person to see cobwebs on the mailbox and yellow pieces of 520 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:52.800 mail and newspapers on the front door. I forget how we ended this story 521 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.079 and misreason scandals, but I would love to know who was paying the phone 522 00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.920 bill, who was paying the electric bill? Why was the heat lamp the 523 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.920 heat are still on and why was the phone still ringing? And why would 524 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.639 light still on? It's so creepy and no one's ever found out. And 525 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:15.960 the person who paid those bills never wanted any kind of publicity. Why would 526 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:22.039 they? They weren't checking them on her either, very said said Stative Affairs 527 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.880 about two dead women, Carrie Fisher and Event Vickers. One had massive fame, 528 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:37.199 big time jobs awards, born from Hollywood Royalty, Eddie Fisher. Debbie 529 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:43.280 Reynolds's parents had a ball, drugs, sex, alcohol, married a game 530 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:50.360 in still kept on trudging. Love their mothers so much they died days apart. 531 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.159 Debbie Reynolds quit living. What was it a week after Carrie Dyke. 532 00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.639 That's how close they were. You get your get a chance, do all 533 00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.639 you can to see everything that Carrie Fisher put together. When it comes to 534 00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:08.679 a woman in show and her book and the movie Postcards from the Edge, 535 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:15.119 What a life she let I feel very fortunate and lucky to have known her. 536 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.960 The fact that she interrupted my audition that day, I can't say it 537 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:23.280 changed my life, but Carrie was the one who convinced Mirror to keep me 538 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.079 and to take me on. Mirror was on the fence. I did two 539 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:37.079 different monologues. It had full of Rain and American Buffalo with Alpaccino and Carrie 540 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.280 right alongside me the second time, and she said, Mirror, take a 541 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.199 minute. He's good, and she did, and that boosted my confidence to 542 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:50.239 a whole of the level. I tell her a lot, and the Hollywood 543 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.039 community owed that Vickers more than they gave, said said, ending in a 544 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:59.920 sad state of affairs. That's Hollywood. Some people dieing their way up, 545 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.599 some people dying the way down, and some you don't even know we're dead. 546 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.679 I'm a J Benza. That was your free show for my free birds 547 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.599 one day, September twenty seven, twenty twenty three. Two more free shows 548 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.880 this week. How do you like me? Now? Figure around next week? 549 00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.039 October's gonna be good for you, guys. Good month of October. 550 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:27.400 You got Halloween, maybe some scary special some scary scary stories about people and 551 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.840 how that could be good Vincent price. What do you think, Bell Legosi, 552 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:36.440 Cloris Karlov I'm like God. To listen is endless. I'll talk to 553 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:46.480 you soon, Thank you for listening. Fame as a Bitch is an AJ 554 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.320 Benza Workhouse Connect production featuring the endless wisdom, insightful commentary, and sometimes fucked 555 00:43:52.360 --> 00:44:00.000 up perspective of a J Benza. Executive producer Mike Agavino