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I'm glad you're here with your entourage. You have your walk up music.

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The bomb sniffing dogs have cleared the
facility. DJ Hodge has the security failings

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available. Not seeing you for a
year and a half, you don't look

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any worse, by the way,
Thank you. Hit the music, Dave.

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I'll tell you what this is your
walk up music as prosecutor? Is

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that correct? That's correct? Hitten
that sunset. Tell the TV schme I'm

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for out. I can get women
today. Hit a Dave because I'm dynamite

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singing Sharon Kennedy in the background,
Justice Joe Leaders State visit. It's been

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a year and a half. Sharon
Kennedy has given me a list of questions

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not to ask. You got your
own list there? Sure? What can

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I ask? Not much? Before
we get into the weather, anything relevant

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that someone might be interested in.
Can we talk about a couple of things?

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First of all, for you to
complain that I'm never on the air

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here, are you joking? I
mean it's I need some time off to

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coalesce. It's a crop shoot.
Every time I turn on the radio,

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it's January the seventeenth that I'm here. I like the promos, though,

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listen to Bill today, he's gonna
discuss black b Yeah, Ken Bruce on

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Ken Live on he's been liberal for
me, Yeah, a little bit.

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But they did a great job.
And what can I talk about? How

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about this? Tell me the last
year you were as prosecutor? First year

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is a high Supreme Court justice?
How's the gig? How's the job differently?

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What's better about it? And what's
worse? The job is fantastic.

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I mean, it's it's it was
the right time. I was at the

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prosecutor's office for twenty six years and
they wanted they wanted you out. All

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the people used to come up to
me all the time and say, you

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know, we did these horrible cases, dead kids. Just I've prosecuted five

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serial killers. People say, how
do you? How do you deal with

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that every day? How you and
it just kind of you just kind of

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get immune to it, I think. And when I left that job,

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God blessed Missy Powers. When I
left that job, I realized the toll

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it was taking on me. I
mean, it really does get to you.

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After a while. You can you
can only deal with so many dead

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children. It's tough. And the
other is man of people you have one

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hundred and two hundred and forty,
two hundred forty employees. And when you

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have two hundred forty employees, you're
the personnel director. And I went from

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two hundred and forty employees to four. Is that a positive? It was

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a no. Sharon Kennedy, God
bless her. She has to mess with

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all the budgets, the legislature.
She's fantastic. I mean, it's it's

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unbelievable the job she does. And
you know, Pat Fisher and Pat de

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Wine, they both have helped me
a lot up there because they're very smart

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lawyers, and yours truly isn't as
smart as that, but they are very

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smart lawyers, and they've helped me
adjust to it. And I think it's

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a I think the Supreme Court's great
right now. And that's dogical. Now,

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those guys aren't practical. They're bright
and all that stuff, but you're

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on You spent most of your life
on the sidewalks on the main streets of

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Cincinnati, and you have a practicality. Maybe these erudyte justices don't. Yeah,

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yeah, I think if I bring
anything to the court, it's I

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always stress to them. Look,
you're reading a very sterile transcript of what

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happened in a trial. And I
would read cases from the Supreme Court of

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Ohio and other courts, appellate courts
where they would disparage defense attorneys for proceeding

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down some line of defense. Well, they're not in the courtroom watching jurors

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roll their eyes at at another defense. You know, if you bring stuff

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up, you just don't know the
atmosphere of that courtroom. And I think

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what I've been able to stress the
best I can to the other justices is

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that we need to get great deference
to these trial judges and to what's going

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on in these courtrooms. I've been
there, as you know, a lot,

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and you know, God bless them, they have the best view.

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It's like second guests in a referee
and you don't have instant replay. I

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mean, it's just doesn't it's not
a look at it this way. Also

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that many times a person gets onto
a bench, especially when it's the last

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most powerful bench in Ohio, and
they change. Very rarely does a person

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go in as a liberal and come
out a conservative. It's normally going as

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a conservative come out as a liberal. Is there a concern that you have

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now the area dot, you got
your staff. I was there for the

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Andy Douglas unveiling of the portrait,
and I thank you and his lovely wife

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Sue for inviting me in the hollow
chambers. You kind of walk into carpeting.

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It goes down to your ankles.
You kind of walk in there,

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and everyone coaches served to you.
Breakfast is served. You can't buy a

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meal anywhere in Ohio. And it
changes. Is there a fear we have

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justice Joe deaters that you're going to
change they come a left ring radical liberal?

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Is that possible? There's probably no
possibility of that. But you know,

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when I first went up there,
one of my brothers said to me,

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who you know, said, how
do you like the new job?

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I said, I love it.
Everybody's nice to me. And he said

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and the way he would say,
he said, real nice or fake nice?

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I said fake. I don't care. I don't care. Be nice.

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They're nice to me. No one's
mad at me. It's kind of

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interesting in your job. I was
in your office many times on that corner

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and there'd be arrows coming from every
direction. The pundits, the critics would

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come after you. You had victims, advocates. You of people picketing in

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front of the building, calling you
everything but a white man when you made

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a decision. You're always careful about
two hundred and forty employees, who's gotten

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pregnant, who pinched somebody in the
butt, who didn't show up today?

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How come you're still sick and you're
looking around the arrows are hitting you from

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every direction. It's like it's like
taking the perverbial drink out of a fire

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hose. It's just every time I
believe, oh my god, look what's

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going on. Every day is different. You know, somebody, some cop

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shoots somebody the night before. It
just comes at you constantly. In Columbus,

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none of that. You have your
own private parking space and a heated

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garage every day, every day.
As prosecutor was again, it's like guessing

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who's subbing for you this week?
You know, wait a minute, hang

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on a second. This is the
only time to hear I'm off, Is

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that right? Okay? Well anyway, Christmas January February. Then I'm back

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out at hard, back out at
hard. But get you to answer my

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question. The question is the question
is this reporting to work today in a

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heated parking garage up your gold embossed
elevator puts up inside your chamber, people

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sitting there. When you come off
the elevator hand some of your listeners come

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up and see the Supreme Court,
so they're beautiful. It is very beautiful,

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I will admit it, but there's
no gold plated and you sit down

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and put your feet up with your
slippers. Well, as I mentioned you

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before when I was prosecutor, this
thinge comes at you a million different ways.

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Every day is different. Last month, God bless her are Justice Sharon

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Kennedy gave me our schedule for the
year. Do you understand that the year?

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Yeah? I don't know right.
I know when I have to be

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in Columbus. I know what's going
on with the court that far in advance.

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And now we have emergency stuff.
You know, every election season brings

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out thousands of lawsuits. You know, everybody's trying to sue. Everybody got

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to sue everybody. What do you
miss about it about not being the prosecutor?

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What do you miss? What I
miss is not being able to shoot

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my mouth off like I used to. I mean, I used to be

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Come on this show, I would
challenge you if you really had statistics I

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doubt you do. I think I
appeared more than all your other guests combined

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last ten years. I think Rob
Sanders disagrees. He's the one that you

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talk, you know, in Rob
Sanders. That's a good subject. You

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know. I heard him bad mouth
of me today. And you know I

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thought I trained the boy well,
but apparently not. Once put a border

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fence? Does that make any sense? Bar bar border fence? I don't

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want to get an opinion about that
because I have to rule on that.

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You have to rule. Take it
down right, I was swimming across the

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high I want nothing to do with
that. Nothing will wait to see if

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it so you miss what the what's
next? The excitement. I've become this

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guy who yells at his TV all
the time. I mean I and I

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know you've been exaggerating, but I
talked to you quite a bit and yell

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at you. But we haven't spoken
along. I haven't seen you in a

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year and a half. I have
to be screened, and so what what

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don't you as far as the job
is prosecutor, is there When I think

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about your cases, and they were
heartbreaking and they were difficult. I think

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about the one in Blue Ash,
the killing or that rode to Nathan,

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I'm thinking, what the I know
you can't comment on that. But every

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day it's like a fight, argument, screaming, and the Supreme Court it's

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like looking. It's with slippers and
uh, a little bit of perier,

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smoking jackets and you just sit there
and stroke. You missed the excitement?

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Do you miss giving interviews? Do
you miss meeting the slaps? You know,

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after twenty six years, I don't. I don't miss it. I

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mean I'm interested in it. I
watch what's going on. You know,

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I went through my last my last
reelection. I went through a George Soros

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funded candidate who came at us with
over a million dollars out of out of

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Switzerland to defeat you. It was
they targeted fourteen prosecutors and they won twelve.

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You know San Francisco, La Chicago, all these cities Philadelphia that are

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destroyed. Those were the candidates that
they were supporting. And they did the

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same thing to me. I survived
and the prosecutor and Phoenix survived. And

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that was it. Fifty You got
fifty three percent of the vote. It

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used to be nobody ran against you. And then with most of the experienced

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great success prosecution. Forty percent of
all Aimal the county residents said, we

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want to make a change. Just
someone George Soros wanted. It's like what,

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yeah, it. Politics is a
tough business and the other side has

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so I know you had input in
it. What did Melissa Powers bring to

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the table that you thought was deserving
of your position? What did she bring?

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Well? She I mean, she
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I ever had. I mean,
she was I can't endorse her, obviously,

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but Missy Powers handled one of our
toughest cases, which was Joseph Paul

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Franklin, who's a serial killer who
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little black kids in the neighborhood I
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unsolved for decades. Missy handled it
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went off and became a judge,
and she was a very respected juvenile court

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judge. And when I was leaving, yeah, obviously I talked to Missy

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about it and to make sure she
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I'll tell you, when you're a
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a different job. It's a great
job, first of all, if you

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enjoy it, it's a tremendously fun
job. But there are a lot of

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slings and arrows to it. You
get a lot of criticism, and if

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you have thin skin, the job
ain't for you. And I think I

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think Missy has it. I think, you know. I'm glad what she's

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doing has been great so far.
And we'll see where you know, how

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she does not. I think it's
forty eight out of fifty of the largest

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fifty cities inside the counties, forty
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and Hamilton County. If we go
that route with the whole government in Hamilton

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County now being a Democrat, I
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count. I'm not sure who that
guy is. You know who that guy

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is. I don't know who he
is. Republican, but I don't know

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who he is. Other than that, it's all Democrats. One philosophy city

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council Liz Keating could not win,
and she finished tenth, spent the most

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money, the most qualified, didn't
get a sniff and if normal people loses

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the prosecutor's office. None were in
serious trouble. There's no one watching what's

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going on at all completing Obviously,
I'm not speaking as justice, not at

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all. But what I don't understand
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the time about separation of powers and
what our jobs are. I also remind

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them it's important who's on the Supreme
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is look at Colorado fourty three.
It's important new's on those courts and their

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judicial philosophies and temperament and things like
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line with getting back to Missy Powers. She is a very difficult job,

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and I couldn't have asked for anybody
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hold it pro I don't know,
I maybe, I mean, I can't

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talk about it, talk about it, so I'm not going to. You

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know, your friends on the left
talk about threats to democracy. A threat

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to democracy is telling the leader of
the opposition party you can't run. Let's

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eliminate seventy four million people that voted
for the Trumpster and say, guess what,

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he's a threat to democracy. So
let's make sure we don't practice.

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That issue is going to be intense
very soon, because once one of the

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major parties has the candidate. I
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going to happen. Oh the hell's
going to break loose once if things come

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out as expected and he is the
candidate. I don't know what you do.

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I don't know. I don't think
anybody believe we'd ever be, you

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know, doing stuff, having this
type of election, when someone indicted for

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political purposes, Trump indicted for political
purposes. I'm sure you had the ability

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for a long time to ruin certain
Democrats by indicting them, much less convicting

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them. Indicting them. They want
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It might be very you didn't.
You have many circumstances. Without mentioning names,

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you had the ability and power to
indict democrats that you opposed. As

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prosecutor, you can ruin people's lives
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That's why soros As people target prosecutors
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And if you have a prosecutor that
chooses to ignore the law that he swored

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uphold, not only do you have
chaos, but you have a dangerous person

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because if they choose and in my
past, I've had people do it to

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me. They tried to use the
justice system to harm me politically, and

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those kinds of people are frightening,
and you know they should never re prosecutor.

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I remember I'm answer your question,
Bill, Yeah, we investigated public

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officials all the time. Just the
letting the information leak that we were even

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investigating someone would be catastrophic to somebody's
career. So we were always I'm sure

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you've never heard any leaks out of
my office saying oh, we're investigating uh,

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this counselman for this, this,
and this. Why would you ever

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do something like that? And they're
waiting to the election year itself to have

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these charges metastasized in order to hurt
him politically, And that's said, well,

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Joe, can you hang around for
the student's reporters happen each I had

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the guts to do that. Yeah, well you told me off there,

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don't be entertaining. I don't want
to have any fun. You're boring and

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fit right in. Yes, so
you fit right in with our I'll be

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right. And Matt Reese is not
here, Matt rees Guddy's not here.

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Yeah, said sad. He said, well, I'm sure. If we

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can make a quick phone call,
we can get Dan Carrol ken Brew on

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the line. What do you think? Now, let's continue with more.

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We'll see what happens. I'll try
not to be entertaining, just as Joe

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hang around for the Stooge Report with
the Segman Dennison beautiful, can't wait.

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Let's continue with more after two o'clock. Today is Sydney Abrams taking Bill Sites

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