WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.320 Well, hello and good evening everybody. Party people. It is Thursday, 2 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:18.000 January eighteen, twenty and twenty four. Welcome, so the only show about 3 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:23.039 Spartan Dogs hosted by Spartan Dogs. This is Spartan MSU. I'm your host, 4 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:28.079 Jason Strayhorn, along with my co hosts Otis the Boss, Wiley and 5 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:33.920 ju to you. Colchrit, Hey, look, this is your first time 6 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.640 to the show. You know he got that gig. Yeah, he jigg 7 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:40.399 look at it, got the bills on and all that good stuff. We 8 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:45.079 wearing that Spartan all day. Baby. Look, without further ado, gentlemen, 9 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.600 we got to bring on a special guest, a Spartan dog of all 10 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.439 dogs, a hard hitting safe. We got two safeties. We with a 11 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:56.079 hard hitting safety from the bottom of the map down in for a lot of 12 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:00.640 their Florida. Well, Lottie Doddy, we likes to party, is right, 13 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.040 joins, This is part of the ms U. What's had? I 14 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.480 gotta I gotta get this straight now because they're gonna get mad at me. 15 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.359 Miami. I'm from Lake Wales, Central Florida. I'm sorry, Folk County. 16 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:18.159 Baby, he ain't gonna get mad at meybody started claiming I know he 17 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:21.480 from day. I can't claim Brownwood. They're getting mad. Well, you 18 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:26.200 can't clan. That's right central Florida, Lake Wells, Yes, Lake Well. 19 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.200 You go to Lego Land, you'll be right by my house. Been 20 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:33.439 there lake Land? That's where that butter is from, right, I don't 21 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:41.439 know. I mean Land butter Man All the Tracks is in Florida. Bro, 22 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.239 I haven't been there since I was a kids, so I don't know. 23 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:47.959 People don't do their tractions. Man, welcome to the show. Brother. 24 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.359 Hey, we got braidenton checking in Braidenson in the house. They trying 25 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.359 to get someone that that's close to Lego Land a little bit. Yeah, 26 00:01:55.400 --> 00:02:00.599 about a couple of hours. We're good. Right, So you came in, 27 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.920 man, you was recruited. You you're one of the guys that was 28 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.800 recruited by Saving and he played for him and Bobby Williams. Right yep, 29 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:13.039 So talk about that going back to the days in Lake Well, Florida. 30 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:17.080 But what brought you up to Michigan State. Well, it's crazy, man, 31 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:23.759 because only a few people know this story. I was getting recruited, 32 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.960 like I was number one safety in the state of Florida, and I was 33 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.520 getting recruited by everybody all you know, all the all the big ten, 34 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:36.639 I mean not big ten, but all the SEC sec ACC schools. So 35 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:42.039 it's funny because Todd Grantham was the one that came down and seen and noticed 36 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:46.680 me. So when Todd Grantham, you know Todd Grantham. So so when 37 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.000 he came down, he seen me, and he stayed connected to me. 38 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.719 So I was having a little trouble with the S A T at the time, 39 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.159 you know, not taking it serious. And I had Bush Davis at 40 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.960 my house, Lou Holts, I had. I went and seen Bobby, 41 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:06.879 Bobby Bowden, uh, Steve Spurry. I never went to see because I 42 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:08.280 was out of Florida State fan. So I never liked the Gators, so 43 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.360 I didn't go. I didn't go see them, you know. But uh 44 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.800 but I had. I had all the major coaches in the house. Man. 45 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.120 And the thing about it was, like I said, I was struggling 46 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:21.479 with a S A T at the time, and Michigan State was the only 47 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.240 school, bro the only school that said, you know what, We're gonna 48 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.960 stick with you through the process. And I said, okay. And I 49 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.280 seen Miami back off, I seen Florida State. I seen all the big 50 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.759 schools. Well, Missis State is still a bit school, but I've seen 51 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.639 all those schools back off because I knew I was gonna be a semino. 52 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:42.759 But they everybody backed off. And once once they backed off, and Todd 53 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.479 Grantham kept coming down, kept coming down and kept saying, you know, 54 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.199 kept talking to my mom, just telling me that hey, man, like 55 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.840 we want him, we want him. And when it was the decision time, 56 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:55.840 That's how I ended up Michigan State. Because I'm like, if they 57 00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:00.759 were lorded to me, then they'll be lord to me later. So that's 58 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.439 how I ended up at Michigan State. Because no way in the world a 59 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:05.599 number one safety out of state of Florida is supposed to leave Florida, you 60 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:10.599 know, because Alabama and Georgia wasn't even good at the time. So I 61 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.080 ain't nowhere el supposed to leave Florida. And with Todd Grantham and matter of 62 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.959 fact, coach Saban came to my house, came to my house. I 63 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.959 had a Michigan jersey on. I had a had a mari In jersey on. 64 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.160 He looked at he looked at me and say, hey, son, 65 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.319 you got to take that off. I looked at my mom. I'm like, 66 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:33.560 who was it supposed to be? Said? But the crazy part was 67 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:36.560 I kept it on. But the crazy part was real. Like we laid 68 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:41.000 on the floor and all he did was draw up plays. He drew up 69 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.360 plays. He asked me question. He was like, hey, if I 70 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.120 if I call this play, he'll he'll he'll explain the defense to me. 71 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.079 And then he said, if I call this plate, where do you go? 72 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:50.319 And I'm like, whyn't you going this? Going this? Man? 73 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.680 He said correct, He said, well, if I call this play, 74 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:56.360 run, he'll draw it up. And he said, so what are you 75 00:04:56.360 --> 00:05:00.040 supposed to do now? And I'm like I dropped to the flats. And 76 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.079 after that, man, it was it was on the popular cause they never 77 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.720 let up. All the schools let up. And then once I passed my 78 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:11.800 s a t everybody can't rushing back in. But my choice, man, 79 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:15.639 that that's that's such a great story that uh, you know, because that's 80 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.800 something that you hear about at the combine. You know, you're in the 81 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:21.600 in the in the room on the grease board with coaches and gms and they, 82 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.480 you know, draw up a play and but coach Saban as a high 83 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.160 school kid. He was, you know, quizzing you on plays. You 84 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:32.240 know that that's a that's something that's that's next level and for you to be 85 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.959 to have the whereabouts and to be able to to understand, you know, 86 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.000 the concepts that he was teaching to you. It showed a lot and that's 87 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:48.839 you know, another reason you had success on the field. I appreciate it. 88 00:05:51.639 --> 00:06:00.519 Yeah, So, like you know, these guys, I feel like 89 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.680 everyone on this everyone on this show right now has went through a coaching change. 90 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.680 And so you went from coach Saving to you know, Bobby Williams, 91 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:14.920 and like what was that like? And it wasn't like anything that you see 92 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.399 now the coaches leaving and not talking to their team or you know, switching 93 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:23.360 up. But how was this transition from Saving and Bobby Williams. We all 94 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:27.959 have different stories people tell us and why Saving left and but how how was 95 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:32.639 that transition when it happened? Well, I mean when when coach Savan left, 96 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.759 it was it was funny because he called a meeting at like seven o'clock 97 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.519 in the morning and we got there and it was funny because I'm walking and 98 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:44.319 I can remember this, bro, I'm walking across the street. I had 99 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.399 my CD player and the song that was playing in my headphones was Tupac, 100 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.360 I ain't mad at you. I'm telling you that. I'm telling you, 101 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.120 bro. That was playing in my headphones because I remember this because you know, 102 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.560 I was in Case Hall five forty five Case Hall. You had his 103 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.240 core memories, like that was a core memory. Like I'm walking across the 104 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:10.759 street and I'm playing Tupac, I ain't mad at you. But then once 105 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.959 he left, you know I was, I thought about transferring. I mean, 106 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.800 the transferred portal is not like the same as it is now. We 107 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.160 had no portal. Yeah, so if I was transferred, I would have 108 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:24.120 been stuck for a second. You had you had a portal, but you 109 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:29.399 had to send it out. So I thought about transferring that going out of 110 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:31.439 l s U. But then I call home. I talked to a few 111 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.839 people and they were like, dude, you played as a freshman, so 112 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.000 you need you just go ahead and tough it out. You know, you 113 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.199 made a name for yourself already, so just go ahead and tough it out. 114 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.720 But now saving with more of a he was more of a like a 115 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:49.800 a dictator, you know. Uh, he was he was more by itinerary 116 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.879 and by practice and this is what we're gonna do, you know, And 117 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.360 cause he showed, he showed a fund side. Sometimes you know, Nick 118 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:03.240 Saving want all bad but but I kind of liked his regiment because you know, 119 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:05.040 it was it was strict, It wasn't no plan. It was just 120 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.600 straight to the point. And then coach Williams came in, it was more 121 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.360 a little laid back, you know. And I love Coach Williams death man, 122 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.480 And you know, I'm playing hard for him, just like I was 123 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.800 playing hard for Saving. But at the same time, you know, when 124 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.079 you get you get those younger guys coming in, you know, the more 125 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.160 relaxed atmosphere. You know, these young guys don't tend to tend to know 126 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.040 what we got, you know, so as as an older as an older 127 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:31.120 guy, you know, you try to instill in them, hey man, 128 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:33.960 we can't be doing this, we can't be doing that. But you know, 129 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:39.159 once you got to practice, you know it is what it is, 130 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.799 you know. So so CoA coach Williams did. He did a great job. 131 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.840 Man, I didn't think he got a fair shape that end of the 132 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.559 day. I think he should have gave him you know, like another two 133 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.879 three years to build his program because he can get the city of Detroit. 134 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.759 But but yeah, it was just like more saving. It was more just 135 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:05.799 strict dictatorship. Coach Williams was more a player coach and more of just hey, 136 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:07.240 man, what's going on? Talk to me, you know, because 137 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.200 we did have plenty of conversations. Hey, I cried with coach sad when 138 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.679 I mean, when coach Coach Williams got fired, man, I was I 139 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.559 was hurt. But at the end of the day, you just you got 140 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.120 to pull your pass up and you know, go play in this game. 141 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.559 Yeah, coach coach Sean Williams, he was Uh. When I started my 142 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.080 recruiting, he was the guy that started to recruit me. And uh, 143 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.080 from talking to everyone, he was such a player's coach. Everyone loved him. 144 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.600 There's a guy I want to talk up to you about, teammate of 145 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.039 yours and arguably you know, one of the best to ever play the game. 146 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:43.159 And uh he had an iconic catch in the tunnel en zone end zone. 147 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.440 Side there you got Chuck Rogers. You know, how how was it 148 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.919 like playing with a guy like that and being you know, on the defense 149 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.679 and seeing that coming at you, you know, on a on a daily 150 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.600 basis in practice, and how did that prep you for the next level? 151 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.399 You know, it's funny. I mean, was getting ready for the Michigan 152 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.799 game one time, and uh, Chuck just caught like two or three deep 153 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.320 balls on us. So I started cussing the whole secondary out. You know, 154 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.559 I'm just going off. You know, Coach Williams is looking at me, 155 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.159 and I messed around, you know, I messed around to say he 156 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:24.879 ain't that good because with me, he was like, well, Coach Williams 157 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:31.159 looked at me, he was like all right, t right, oh man. 158 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.759 But but playing with Chuck Man, like like you just you just seen 159 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.320 greatness, you know what I mean. You you just seen greatness. You've 160 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.200 seen You've seen a guy that you know, loved the game. You've seen 161 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.320 a guy that actually you know that that's what it was all about. He 162 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.559 was about his kids, he was about the game, and you know, 163 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.240 it was just it was just one of those things that he just he was 164 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.919 just a good dude. Man. I mean it was sometimes like I was 165 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.720 riding around in my car and I pull up to him, I pull up 166 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.039 to his house and you know, we're finna hang out, and I'm like, 167 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.279 Chuck, let me use your card, you know, he yo, 168 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.279 yep, t you know, you know you're good, you know, take 169 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.679 it, you know. And you know he was just a good, genuine 170 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:15.360 dude man. And I think that's where a lot of people uh missed about 171 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.440 Chuck. He was a great a great guy, and he was a good 172 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.440 friend man. So yeah, Chuck, Chuck was cool man. But I 173 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:24.039 had to say this too though. Well people don't realize and I had to 174 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.200 toot my own horn sometimes because people forget about this before he caught that before 175 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.200 he caught that past in the Notre Dad game with the foot in the on 176 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.480 the back of line of his own. I caught the pick before that. 177 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.279 Why don't replay that? Yeah, I caught the pick. I caught the 178 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.039 pick like on the like the five or ten yard line, and him and 179 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:48.159 Smoke just put it together and just made it do what to do? So 180 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:54.000 I took my horn right quick. I mean he's supposed to we don't get 181 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.120 that shigns he right, you know, we gotta go, you know how 182 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.759 to say this, man? We just back there, man, hey, 183 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:07.080 hold the ball, talk about it, like to if something happened on the 184 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.000 officive side and were running off. You know how you run off the office 185 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.799 run past you, and they'd be like, hey, hey, my bad, 186 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:18.879 go ahead, get the ball back for us though, right, I 187 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:30.559 know, y'all hate that. I hate that when you hear that. You 188 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:31.840 right, I told him, I told him to wrong, go bro. 189 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:37.960 We just sat down and had a drinking water, right, right. I 190 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.679 mean, man, you're still sweating and off and they throw a pick. 191 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.399 You gotta run back out or or to hunt ready, bro, Like that's 192 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:58.559 the worst. Yeah, you're wrong, that's so true. I mean you 193 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:05.120 have to y'all. That's post traumatic stress. Hey man, see right, 194 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:07.200 man, like so like, so you came to Michigan State, you balled 195 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.080 out. I remember, I remember when you was getting recruited because I was 196 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.960 in there in ninety eight. On end of ninety nine, you was coming 197 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.519 up. You came into ninety nine right the next year. Yeah, yeah, 198 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.679 man, the coach was real happy to get you because it was a 199 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:24.240 hard hit safety. Everybody from the bottom is supposed to be that guy. 200 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:31.159 Jayu doesn't believe that at all. But regardless of how Jayu feels look looking 201 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.440 at looking at your career, man, like you ended up getting to play 202 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.600 with the Tennessee Titans. Okay, so talk about your experience, like what 203 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:45.240 did you learn in Michigan State that prepared you for the NFL? Man, 204 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.639 So when I got to the Titans, it was crazy because everybody talk about 205 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.320 how, you know, the pro teams, like how they do the rookies 206 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.000 and you know how they hate the rookies, or how the veterans don't get 207 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.120 along with the rookies. You know, nothing like that. You know, 208 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.960 Like when I got to Tennessee, man, it was all love, like 209 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.240 you know, you got you got veterans, like, you know, God 210 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.279 bless them. But you know, Frank Watchick I was, I was going, 211 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.639 I was going Frank Watchick in practice, and you know he beat me 212 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.440 on the route. So he'll come. He'll come back to me and say, 213 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.840 hey, look, man, if you're gonna play tight ends in this 214 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.559 league, you need to do X, Y and Z. A lot of 215 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.559 veterans won't do that, you know. Keith Bullock. I remember Keith Bullock, 216 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.000 Man, Like he pulled me to the side, you know, yeah, 217 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.159 yeah, he tell you put me to the side one day. Man. 218 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:37.679 I remember one out my rookie year and he put me to the side, 219 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:39.919 and he was like, man, look, man, a lot of 220 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.080 a lot of a lot of these older players are not gonna tell you this, 221 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.279 he said, but guess what, man, You're gonna be good. 222 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.399 You're gonna be good. And for a veteran to pull you to the side 223 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:50.840 and tell you that, you know, you know, you got something, 224 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.600 you know, so I mean and then Tennessee, Man, Nashville was cool, 225 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:00.799 like it was laid back, and I mean, you got second streak 226 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.000 down now, but I mean just now, Nashview was just over around cool. 227 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.519 So yeah, now, Tennessee, the Titans was a great organization. 228 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.960 Man. They still bring us back every year too, you know, for 229 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:15.000 like a Titan reunion. You played there with Robert Smith An Yeah, yeah, 230 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:20.840 so so you know I want no hazey going though now with Robert. 231 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.360 No. When I told her, when they knew Robert was my guy, 232 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:28.559 oh no, you ain't messing with Robert telling I met with the young fellow, 233 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.919 I wasn't playing. I wasn't playing no games either, so they already 234 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:37.399 knew that. But then I got him on top of what I'm doing. 235 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.159 I'm all good. Oh yeah, man, you're a big safety even Oh, 236 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.000 there's both big safeties. Man. You know, but there's a question 237 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.759 here in the chat talking about the what's the capitol one Citrus bold? Man, 238 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:56.519 you know you was in that one right when when you talked Spurrier and 239 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:03.840 the sec A lesson. That's from Alan McVeigh, talk about it right there. 240 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:12.080 Look at that picture man, that game. Yeah, that's nug Johnson 241 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.120 down there. Man, that game was so fun, bro, because the 242 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.639 thing about it was so I'm from Florida. That's my that's my that's my 243 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:25.039 freshman year. I haven't been home since June. So we're playing the Citshes 244 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:30.080 Bowl and we're playing the Sisheres Bowl. Now my mom and grandma and and 245 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.120 all my cousins and friends can come to the game. I even have friends 246 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:38.200 working in concession get in the game, you know. Yeah, I had. 247 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:41.720 I had friends work in concession get in the game. So, man, 248 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.720 that meant so much. Yeah, so that that means so much. 249 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.320 Man. Just the ball out in front of my ball out in front of 250 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.080 my family, you know, and just and do my thing, because you 251 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:57.120 got to think too, I'm playing with Julie Peterson and all these other NFL 252 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:00.879 guys on the team, man, and from me to be in the game 253 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.400 as a freshman. I was on the freshman that played on defense. Yeah, 254 00:17:03.920 --> 00:17:08.039 so just you and Duck, Me and Duck, you know what I 255 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.880 mean. So yeah, yeah, well Duck was supposed to play linebacker, 256 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.559 but I guess he showed up. Show a little more about you know, 257 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:21.279 I mean, welcome back to you, welcome back. We got you. 258 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.759 Don't worry about you didn't miss nothing. Yeah, I love bowl man. 259 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:29.119 I had the ball, miss basketball, steal the deal. We're good. 260 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:33.599 Maybe seventy six sixty six for the final for basketball my league Hall sixteen point 261 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.200 twelve rebound, Tyson Walker twenty one points. What they in the game, 262 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:42.400 mom a ten to two run and two run. Yeah, became our family. 263 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:47.200 Yep, you right, I know, I know right now you are. 264 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:52.880 You're heavily involved in the high school football world. And we talked about 265 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.039 like you know, I know, you break down film in my roommate and 266 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:02.559 Ricky Rose woh yeah, and so you know, we talked about like, 267 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:06.759 first let's flash back when we had to sound my somebody, and then obviously 268 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.279 the camp that was happening this past year in the summertime, and we was 269 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:14.920 talking about like just the recruiting of efforts of Michigan stay at the time of 270 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:19.440 the class coaching staff. But now we got a new coaching regime. You 271 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.880 know, what are you hearing, what are you seeing and feeling with like 272 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.960 the young guys and coaches and the state of misis. But and where you're 273 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.160 at right now, what are you hearing with the new staff? And then 274 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.799 like any upcoming talent too that we should be aware of that we're not even 275 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.359 looking at right now. I mean, like I haven't really met the coaching 276 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:38.640 staff, the real cru and of guys, you know, so because I 277 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.200 was cool with Sayid and and and and all the other guys down there. 278 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:47.519 So I'm I'm with I'm trying to build that relationship with those guys because once 279 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.039 I get to know them, I'm just gonna send them product all the time, 280 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.480 you know. And that's the thing about it, Like you have to 281 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.680 you have to constant send product. You have to When I say product, 282 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:57.920 I mean you know you know what I mean athletes, athletes, Yeah, 283 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:02.240 yeah, so, but you you have to send them all the time. 284 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.200 And then but the thing about it is you have to send quality, not 285 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.160 quantity, because a lot of these guys are saying, Hey, here's my 286 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:12.480 son's nephew, my son's cousin, nephew, whatever, and they'll just send 287 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.680 anybody. But guy's no no long to look at that. You know, 288 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:18.720 you want to send quality these to these guys and then they'll come back to 289 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.599 you and say, hey, who else you got? Who else you got? 290 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.880 You know, because that's what that's what's going on now. A lot 291 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:29.880 of guys just sending guys. But it's not what it's not what Mischisian State 292 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:33.279 football looks like. You know, you have you have to send quality, 293 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.119 and that's all. That's all I send them is quality. So right now, 294 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:38.480 I've sent a few kids so far, but I know what the coaching 295 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:42.279 change, I'll help back some. So I've been holding some in my vaute 296 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.839 for a second so I can I can get them out. But most of 297 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.359 them, most of the guys I got now are like down South kids. 298 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.839 But I'm trying to tap into that mid West area, you know. So 299 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.039 I'm trying to If y'all got any connections on the Midwest kids, let me 300 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.200 know. But I'm trying to tap into that men West area because when I 301 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:02.839 played at Michigan State, we had like nine ten guys on the team of 302 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:08.039 Florida. Mm hm, so I I mean, yeah, go to the 303 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.759 boys, baby, I'm trying to get him up here. I got one 304 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.240 of Hey, I got one. I got one on the team right now. 305 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.759 He's gonna be adug, you know what I mean. So if we 306 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.559 get him up here, you know it's it's gonna be great. But I 307 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:23.720 mean, just get to know the coaching staff and just trying to trying to 308 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.240 get in the trust you to know that you're going to bring in You're gonna 309 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:32.599 bring them quality and not quantity. I mean that's a big part of just 310 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.319 building relationship with them. Yeah, it's a tough thing, man, you 311 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:37.759 know, you talk about it, but you know you got You're a person, 312 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.559 a guy, a player, a dog who played you from Florida to 313 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:47.880 the bottom where that's it's obviously talent rich. You play at Michigan State for 314 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.759 Nick Satan, was recruited by the Goat, played for Bobby Williams and then 315 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.359 playing in the NFL. Man, I mean, you got good eyes, 316 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.400 right like, that's sure. That's that's that's something that I think a good 317 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.759 coaching staff will want a leverage. I think that's something that I don't know 318 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:06.279 right now. I'm sure the coaching staff is drinking from the fire hydrant. 319 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:10.359 It's tough and you're coming in you don't know the layer of the land and 320 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:12.359 all that stuff. But but tee, right now, you know when you 321 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:17.200 when you think back to like your days with Saving, you know, we 322 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:21.039 got to segue into this. We talk about the domino effect that that has 323 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:26.559 been caused in college football right now because of Saving retiring, you know, 324 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:32.960 and it's like it's since shock waves, right yeah, Nick Gunn and all 325 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:37.119 sorts of head coaching opportunities open up, and you see the transfer portal is 326 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.640 going crazy right now. What's your thoughts on all of this? Well, 327 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:47.319 I mean I think the n I L and the transfer portal kind of kind 328 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.759 of Warren Warring a little bit, you know what I mean? Because Coach 329 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:55.759 Saban is an old school guy. You know. Coachaban is that guy that 330 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.359 he's a he's a this is what I want, this is what I'm gonna 331 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.960 do, this to what you're gonna do, you know, So co Savan, 332 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:04.359 Coch Saban is not that type of guy that go out and try to 333 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:08.920 adjust. He's only time he'll adjusts if somebody run a different player that he 334 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.680 never seen. Other than that, he's not trying to adjust to the environment 335 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:18.720 of society of how college football should look. He's not doing that. And 336 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.440 at the age of seventy something, who would want to adjust, you know, 337 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.079 who would want to go out there and say, all right, now, 338 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.319 I got to go and bring in a kid that want two million dollars 339 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.200 to play for me. You know, coach save me. Don't want that. 340 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:34.279 You know, it's not gonna have so nil. It's for made for 341 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:40.359 those those new coaches to come in and learn, and then once they learn, 342 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:44.200 and some of them gonna burn and some of them gonna succeed. But 343 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:47.559 it's made for those coaches to come in and do trial and error, and 344 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.920 then now you have another plethora of coaches come up after them that's gonna have 345 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.200 the book, you know, because you got to go through trial and error 346 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:02.359 before you succeed at anything. Great point. That's a great point. I 347 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:06.799 mean, I mean, I know you go ahead, No I was, 348 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:10.559 I was, I'm gonna go back to like recruit because we asked, well, 349 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:14.559 I asked coach did by like looking at evaluating film and you know, 350 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.400 these coaches got to look at things different, like, yeah, you gotta 351 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.400 watch film, but you also gonna have it. You have to have a 352 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:25.119 great, solid nil package that I was with offering kids. But when you're 353 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.880 looking at film, like what are you looking at? That is validating or 354 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.839 that's worthy of a good product because people are all about highlight social media, 355 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:40.079 film and their best highlights. Right, So like you got to get nitty 356 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:41.319 greedy like what are you looking at? And then say, oh, this 357 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.359 guy got it, I'm gonna send it. So I got so I look 358 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.720 at him in two waves. So one way is a great guy from being 359 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.480 a five star, four star, three star, right, And I'll take 360 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:59.200 that kid and I'll send him to Michigan State and a bunch of unknown name 361 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:03.680 schools I'm not going to because I got contacts everywhere. I mean no, 362 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:10.200 not not down the road. But okay, okay, yeah, you know 363 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.200 I want the kids to go to school. That's a that's a big part 364 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.680 you get in school. Fine, I don't care where you go, but 365 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.799 I got a bunch of schools that I send our kids. That's five fours 366 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.400 and three's right. So when I look at that, that's great, great, 367 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.799 great, great quality, you know, and you got to think too, 368 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.880 your name is stepped on that, Your name is stepped on that, 369 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.880 because once that kid gets to that school, it's not this is so and 370 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:44.359 so from Lake West, Florida. This is t Wright's kid from Lake Wes, 371 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.240 you know, so you have to st that quality. But then again, 372 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.319 I'll send those out and that's what it is. But then again with 373 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:57.200 what I'm doing on my end, I work with two star to no star 374 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:03.680 kids and I try to get them college exposure. That's what I do because 375 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.920 it's so it's so Le'veyon Bail was what a two star, three star or 376 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.680 not? You know. So it's it's kids like Le'veyon Bail or Man grown 377 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:17.759 man now. But it's guys like him that get looked over and get that 378 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.200 one D one offer and turn out and be a beast, you know. 379 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.880 So it's a lot of guys out there like that. So that's what I 380 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.279 do on my end. As far as when I'm doing the film study with 381 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:32.720 Ross, when we're breaking our film and Ross's our training people, and and 382 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:36.519 you know, and and we're getting together collabing and making our videos because we're 383 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.720 looking at those we're not looking at three, four or five star kids, 384 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.799 we're looking at two stars or lower and seeing what we can do enhance their 385 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.200 opportunity to go to college. And that's all it is. It's not a 386 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.000 guarantee that we're gonna get you to college, but it's it's a guarantee that 387 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:52.920 we're gonna try to do best best we can to get you that exposure to 388 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.200 get to college. So that's what that's what we're doing our end. But 389 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:00.000 far as the far, far as the five, four and three stars, 390 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.359 it's all about just you know, he might get overlooked. You just put 391 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.680 it out there to say, coach, hey, man, you know this 392 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:11.200 kid, he's a singer and he's played he played in the woods of Mississippi, 393 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:18.799 and here's this film because guys out there like that of Mississippi may nobody 394 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:32.559 going to Mississippi. No, I'm just I'm going back to t Right's point 395 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:37.319 about the recruiting side, and you talk about the saving the saving effect that 396 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:42.680 that happened, and with what's happening now, coaching has turned to a young 397 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.400 man's game. You need that energy to be like we talked about last week, 398 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:55.240 Hey this kid, this kid just uh decommitted from this school. Oh 399 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.319 get that chopp already, I'm gonna run and jump in this helicopter and go 400 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:03.279 fly. You need that energy to do that. T Wright talked about Savings 401 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.039 sitting there drawing up plays. You know, hey, this happens here, 402 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:08.480 you go here, What do you do there? What do you do there? 403 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:14.319 In his living room? Nowadays, these coaches are going to these kids 404 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.279 living room and talking about this car here, this girl, this house, 405 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:29.440 this stadium. They don't they're not drawing on did you draw the girl in 406 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:45.079 the house? Put it back up? I don't know that's an el Camino, 407 00:27:49.119 --> 00:28:00.599 but camino. He Those are some of the things because next saving it's 408 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:07.160 gonna go down as the greatest coach to coach college. Yes, but he, 409 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.079 like he said, it's he can't make promises to kids anymore. He 410 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.200 can't sit back and say, hey, I'm gonna be there for the next 411 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:21.480 you know, five years. So he can't do those things because it's what's 412 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:26.680 that. I know, that's what I just said. But you know he 413 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.759 has to make adjustments and stuff like that. And I think it's it's a 414 00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.440 younger person's game. You have to have that energy, you have to be 415 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:37.680 going. But I don't think you know, him leaving caused those domino effects 416 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.839 for these coaches, you know, to do it, because I think it 417 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.519 was in the plans before that, I don't. I think going into the 418 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.160 season he was like, you know, this is probably my last year, 419 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.759 and probably by week third week, you know, eight nine, during the 420 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.680 season, he's probably like thinking, talking to ads, Yeah, let's figure 421 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.359 out a contingency plan here, because it's probably good to be it, because 422 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:06.079 there's no way a school in Alabama just out of the blue gets a new 423 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:11.519 coach within forty eight hours. Look here, man, look I kind of 424 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.319 agree with you on that. I think that Miss Terry had a lot to 425 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.119 do with it. Nick Saban's wife, you know, Terry. I think 426 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.079 the dads, the conversations they had had they had plans, right, you 427 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.880 know, going into the season, or they had what one year, the 428 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.240 five year to ten year playing they had all those plans, you know, 429 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.599 t right. How detailed he was he is. You know, we had 430 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.640 said herban swerving on here last week. He said, the man ain't the 431 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.759 same meals every Friday for the last seventy two years. I mean, that's 432 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:47.920 what he That's the kind of guy he is. So he knows like okay, 433 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.640 it's time. But I think that he was a little conflicted now. 434 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:56.960 People who are in involved in like close to him over the last was that 435 00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:02.680 last week when it happened said that he he was interviewing coaches too. He 436 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:08.720 was interviewing defensive coordinators the same day that he announced the retirement. I think, 437 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.759 you know, like and if you know Nick, you know coach Savan's 438 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.279 a guy. He will vent on several people to get feedback. I think 439 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.240 he likes to say things out loud of people that he respects, that he 440 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.880 trusts. And I think that ultimately when they asked him that question, they 441 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.440 said, who are you talking to the most ar when you decided to make 442 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.559 the you know, come and talk to the team, And he said he 443 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.960 was talking to his wife, Miss Terry. So he said it wore on 444 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.000 him, right. I think that then that plan that may have been in 445 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:47.200 place was then you know, that's when they moved forward with it. But 446 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.799 it wasn't. I don't That day wasn't in stone, like, Okay, 447 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.680 on whatever the day that was, We're going to do this. He did 448 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.759 not wake up that morning knowing that that night he would go to bed not 449 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.480 being the head coach at Alabama. Yeah, I agree, I agree. 450 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.799 I agree with that one hundred percent. But I think probably by week ten 451 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:12.240 he kind of had a good idea that it's more likely than not. Was 452 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.680 that what was that the us F game, That South Florida game. Wasn't 453 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.119 it like two week week three or four somewhere in there? It was right 454 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.079 now. I think he was already ready, man, because, like like 455 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.920 you said earlier, for him to go forty hours and you get the coach 456 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.960 from Washington coming in, that was already the plan. You know, they 457 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.440 already post a guy from Washington. They want to saving the coaches last year 458 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.319 to get him a national championship. So we're not going to talk about the 459 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.640 NCAA getting him in there, but I think that they got in there for 460 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.559 his last chance to even you know, try to win the championship. The 461 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.440 last dance, Yeah, the last dance. Pretty much he was doing the 462 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.920 last dance and Michigan was doing the last dance because you know, yeah about 463 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:57.119 that, you talk about that in a minute in the future. Let's go 464 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:04.079 back to let's go back to why why you get a girl some pigtails to 465 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:13.160 like the girl has a big tail. Lord man, that's bad. Is 466 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.279 for everybody, so you can see it. You gotta describe, subscribe. 467 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:24.920 That's so bro. I gotta get quick saving because I know guys give saving 468 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.640 stories and whatnot. I'm getting quick saving story. So I got plenty. 469 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.039 You go ahead, I got plenty, but I'm just gonna give you one. 470 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:39.079 This was solidified me playing at Michigan State. So uh, I remember 471 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:44.960 the plate bro we we was we was out. We was a practice and 472 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:50.640 we was running nine rats. So nine rat mean the safety is it's still 473 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.279 it's covered one, but it's covering nine. I mean it's covering nine, 474 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:58.279 but you know it's still man to man. I was coming down week and 475 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.880 the safety come down week and take the run back out of the backfield. 476 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:07.359 So I was coming down and the running back came my week got him, 477 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.839 but I didn't go to him, but I went out with him. So 478 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.680 I turned around to run because they threw the ball the Pleasic coach, you 479 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.200 know plas called garat Scott. They threw it down the sideline on the other 480 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.799 side. So you know Slavery wants you to run to the ball, So 481 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.039 get ready to run. He said, Thomas, God your man, and 482 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.039 just like I'm talking to y'all, I said, coach, I got boy. 483 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.960 He won in the rant. I see you don't like to be coached. 484 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.480 What's going on? So you know, we had a back and forth. 485 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.160 So Eric Watris and and and Skinny and all the guys run over. 486 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:45.160 They was like, hey, man, you can't be talking back to the 487 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.960 coach like that. I said, Man, he cussing me, I don't 488 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:55.160 cuss him out too. And then so we don't care about that. So 489 00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.720 next thing, you know, uh, we we were go back and watch 490 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.799 film. When we watched film, you know, like coach Coach D said 491 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.559 Coach De. He will be running the thing and coach able to come in. 492 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.559 He'll get up here, slide up under the table with his little cup 493 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.280 and he'll sit there just do his little jip, you know. And he's 494 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.480 said nothing unless he sees something. So the play came up, right, 495 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.079 So when the play came up, you see me go right with this guy. 496 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.360 I got him and then I turned around to run, so he ain't 497 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.559 say nothing to me. So we go out and getting ready for getting ready 498 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.039 to go to practice. You know, save it short. So he walked 499 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:37.480 past me and he looked me. Now, he said okay. I said, 500 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.079 yeah, coach, I'm good. And he ain't say sorry or nothing 501 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.639 because he's seen the play. Bro. I'm like, come on, man, 502 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.280 like we did all listen. You thought I was wrong, I said, 503 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.760 oh my god, I got finish. Joy man, he cuts me 504 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.599 out Ohio State one time. Man that oh my god on national TV. 505 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:00.760 It was my It was my fault because I posted what I posted. Had 506 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.840 the full back out of the backfield, and I was trying to make a 507 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.639 check with the other safety. Ohio State. We's already up twenty seven zero, 508 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.360 and and they hiked the ball and the fullback ran to the flat caught 509 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.559 it go touchdown. So midy, we we're not We're not at the tunnel 510 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.599 en zone. We had the other end zone. So I tried to jog 511 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.840 around the fifty so so he won't say it, so he wouldn't see me. 512 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:25.800 Don't you know. He came all the way out to the fifty. 513 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.760 He will cuss me out. Bro. I said, oh my god, 514 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:36.119 what if he didn't if like one thing I said about saving, if he 515 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.039 didn't really get on you, and and and just just just show you the 516 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.960 passion that he had for the game, Like you will never play. If 517 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:45.159 if Saban just came to you and say, hey, how you doing it, 518 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.960 or just walk past you, you never played. But if if he 519 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.199 really just got on you for making a mistake, you're like you one of 520 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.840 his guys. Mm hmm. He's really trying to coach you. He's he's 521 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.199 really trying to coach He's one of the guys. But but yeah, man, 522 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.400 I got plenty of saving stories. But that's just who I had. 523 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.800 Man, So what about this, and let's go. Let's go to the 524 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.039 practice oldest and I talk about this, and I know Duck's here in the 525 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.760 in the chat, I think he's still here. But you know those practice 526 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.440 days, now, Duck coming through there, what are you? Are you 527 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.440 making business decisions or what you're doing? No? No, no, no, 528 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.800 you can ask TJ. Won't no business decisions. No, I need 529 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.119 to hit him because I'm trying to play. It was funny, so so 530 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.880 I know, and I think, yeah, Duck still in him. So 531 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:40.840 so me and teacher. I don't know the practices an scripted, right, 532 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.920 so you know you know when the practices are scripted. So for some reason, 533 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.199 man, they kept running this play. Well, me and Duck just 534 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:54.760 kept meeting, and I'm like, I'm tired of this. One time I 535 00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:00.239 seen Duck man, he was coming downhill, and as a safety as you 536 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.039 can, you know what when you see a guy squinched his eyes and get 537 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.719 load you he coming. I'm looking at Duck like, oh man, I 538 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.920 need to speak this thag up. So I come down. We stand up. 539 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.840 So Duck he said, damn t right, what's wrong? Baby? 540 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.000 I said, Bro, you try to run me over? He said, 541 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.159 no, Man, we just trying to get a little third. I said, 542 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.239 well, look, bro, you trying to If you try, if 543 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:30.679 I see you squirtch your eyes again, we're gonna have to go at it. 544 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.480 And me and Duck always had a pat that when when we get when 545 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.760 it's me and him, we just thought real hard and just let it go. 546 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.800 That's the union. But see right, look look this is when I 547 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:50.559 saidured what they got to You got two huddles. They got two huddles, 548 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.679 right, so my huddle you got, you got Jay you one huddle and 549 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.960 you got your ring range and vine and the other huddle. So like when 550 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.199 you go like we coached deep, you know, coach d is a saving 551 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.000 saving that it's a saving night so he got the same swag. So coach, 552 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.360 do you will walk around be like right, So you're like cool, 553 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.360 I'm gonna be able to wrap up, be straight. And if somebody don't 554 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.920 wrap up or they go like you know, miss attack or something, he 555 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:22.920 was like live, so you gotta switch right. This this is this is 556 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:24.920 fresh, like this is this is crazy like junior year. So you comes 557 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.559 up and I start to know, like like you talk about you look at 558 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.239 eyes like you look at their eyes. So choosing the background, two eyes 559 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.800 get big like he'd be sitting there looking like like looking like, oh I 560 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.280 know, I'm about to bro It's the worst thing that look. It's like 561 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.880 it's like Moses partner Red Sea for for you that half back draw and you 562 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.119 I want to stand up and show you always did a little tweaky twinkle told 563 00:38:52.159 --> 00:39:02.760 He was like right, it's me is me, it is too And it's 564 00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.199 like to my point, like I'm not about to get exposed, So I'm 565 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.320 about to come up here and do whatever. Can you see Strengthen the knees, 566 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.599 baby, straight, that's crazy. That's the thing. Is thank you 567 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.480 straight. That's the thing you and you and Duck had a thing. Oh 568 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.480 never even gave us an opportunity to get that. He went, it's an 569 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.840 opportunity, he just went. That's the thing right there. I'm not trying 570 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.840 to get it. Look, I'm not trying to get no concussion we would 571 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:42.599 have made. He would have made. Then you truck me. Then you 572 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:47.000 truck me and you giggle. That's the worst part. You were young, 573 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:57.679 you to you was trucking the young boy, bro. Yeah, and you 574 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:10.199 giggle. Get that's ridiculous. But seem right though. So we're gonna we're 575 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.000 gonna talk about this. I mean, we're gonna let you go. I 576 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.800 know, but this is we having fun on here. Man. But like 577 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.679 with saving with that, like we gotta talk. Who is your agent in 578 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:24.519 the league? The Posting Brothers, Posting Brothers, that's that's that's them guys. 579 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.719 Now. You know, so back in the day, there's one guy 580 00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.480 you know who Jimmy Sexton is, right, Yeah, Jimmy Sexton. I 581 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.239 mean we didn't really know who he was way back in the way days. 582 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.519 But now I mean he's gonna turn into the power broker of C A A. 583 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.199 That's the biggest agency out there. Uh, he manages. I mean, 584 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.719 they represent a lot of coaches, you know, Hollywood stars, the 585 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.920 top five picks in the draft, all that stuff. That's John Cena's agent. 586 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:58.199 John. There you go, Sena. You can't see him like it. 587 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.440 Look, man, gim me Sexton. When you look at the people 588 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:07.320 who are on the list to potentially take over for Nick Saban, he represented 589 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.840 all of them, you know, I mean, so, I mean, 590 00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.760 do you think there was a little something game of shit going on where he 591 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.280 was able to get all of his guys paid. Oh? Yeah, it's 592 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.400 it's I mean, it's it's that thing where you know, it's that brotherhood 593 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.199 inside of a brotherhood, you know what I mean. So you know, 594 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.599 like he's the guy that like it's okay, I don't know if this is 595 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.199 a good reference, but it's like when somebody has a good barber, they 596 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.119 tell another guy to go to their barber, and then that guy he could 597 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.519 have had so good and give him a good and then and then give him 598 00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.239 a good cut. He was like, oh, man, let me tell 599 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.599 my homeboy about you. So now you got all these guys coming to the 600 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.000 same barber, and they didn't want to go anywhere else. They'll wait in 601 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.000 line for two hours and three hours for that same barber, you know. 602 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:57.159 So I think that's what sexting got going on, because I know a lot 603 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.719 of guys are represented by Section Man and they don't want to deal anybody else. 604 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.719 Is the potential guys out here that can do it. Yeah, But 605 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.679 it's once you get those once you get those relationships and you build that brand, 606 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.280 it's I mean, it's it's hard to say no because all session got 607 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.559 to do is send an email. Hen't even to make a phone call. 608 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:15.320 He sent an email and say, hey, this is my guy. I 609 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:20.280 wanted to get in there, and it's gonna happen. It's almost like the 610 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.840 mob man, like, you can't go you can't cross sectional. You're not 611 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.320 gonna get nothing else. You gotta go to the bottom of the bear after 612 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.960 that, right, you better pay them agent fees, right right. That's 613 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:37.159 my biggest regret, man. I remember my knees No, no, nah, 614 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:45.679 look I'm still testify man, because no, the Postal Brothers, like 615 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.960 I was, it was up for them. I had two decisions to make 616 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.599 between two and I remember they had they had they had big Dog Julie Peterson 617 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.280 give me a call, right, and he was like, hey, you 618 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.840 don't you don't want to go nowhere else. But these guys trust me, 619 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.679 and I don't know, man, My biggest regret is not choosing you took 620 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.880 that little that little money that they took care of you, man, because 621 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.920 you know, I mean, they had Penny hard Away, Like they used 622 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.079 to fly us south down to New Orleans. Like once you signed and you 623 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:21.039 about to leave college whatnot. We always meet up down the ass festival and 624 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.599 uh and then fly everybody out. I met LeVar Arrington. I played against 625 00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.400 the bar, but then I met him personally. Then they had Penny hard 626 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.880 Away. I mean what we had, Dorset Son, we had. We 627 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.559 had a lot of guys met Chuck, Chuck had signed with him. Yeah, 628 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.519 me and Chuck E J. E. J. Henderson line back from 629 00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.679 Maryland. You know, we had a we had a little class coming out, 630 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.920 man. But one thing, and I still talked to a couple of 631 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:46.679 guys that used to work for him, Like I still talk to them and 632 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.360 we text. I haven't talked to Kevin de Carl in a while, but 633 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.679 I still talk to a lot of guys that actually doing the footwork for him. 634 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.079 You know what I mean, I still talk I'll still talk to them 635 00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.119 to this day. Man, And somebody just asked, what was that the 636 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:17.199 prime essence fest life? That's yeah, did you whisper? He whisper? 637 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.679 No. But it was cool, man, I mean it was it was 638 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:29.960 like it was fun because like I was in the spots with the with the 639 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:35.519 guys so much maybe and Man in Fresh see me so many times. The 640 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.559 posters had uh a sweep in at the time, what was called the dome. 641 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.880 I've got what the dome it was called, but uh in the same 642 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.119 look, I mean in the in the in the same stadium they had a 643 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.480 dome, I mean a sweet And I walked in the baby and man in 644 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.400 Fresh uh, and they looked at me and was like because I had seen 645 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:55.559 him so many times because I was working out of Houston, they used to 646 00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.800 be in Houston a lot. And then when I went to New Orleans and 647 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.519 I'm like, they might think I'm from here because I used to see them 648 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.719 all the time. But it was it was so cool with them, man, 649 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.039 Like everything was laid out, everything was cool, Like I had no 650 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.440 issues, no problems, you know, they made sure I was taken care 651 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:25.360 of. So they were good dudes. Man. Yeah, go DJ man 652 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.159 before we let you go to right, Like, obviously we got new new 653 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.960 staff, like and it's the first winter conditioning leading in the spring with this 654 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:37.920 staff. But like, what do you think is gonna take to get us 655 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.599 back to the spartan football like we've known it to be. Well, I 656 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.800 mean, first of all, we have to be where of what's gonna happen. 657 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.079 You know, in the first couple of years, we're gonna see a 658 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.920 lot of influx of West Coast players. We're gonna see that because that's where 659 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.239 they're from. That's what they that's what they groomed on West Coast players. 660 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.559 So we can't get mad if they're not coach, if they're not recruiting the 661 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.920 Midwest, they're not recruiting, uh, the East Coast, they're not recruiting 662 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.239 the South, you know, Uh, they're not recruiting you know, down 663 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.480 in Texas or whatnot. So we're gonna see a lot of influx of West 664 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.280 Coast players because they had those guys lined up from twenty four, twenty five, 665 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.880 and twenty six. So if we're looking to see Midwest players come along 666 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.199 and get and get recruited, we have to wait a little bit and and 667 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.639 let them get settled in in the environment because if they're not settled in, 668 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.039 they canna go back to what they're comfortable with. And that's what that's what 669 00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.320 see, we got eight in Childs, which is a great pick up for 670 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.400 us when you're gonna see a lot of those guys that that's that's still with 671 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.199 their guys that they were they've been recruiting in twenty four twenty five, and 672 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.280 I mean not twenty four, but twenty five, twenty six to twenty seven. 673 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.000 So you have you have you have to wait wait on his wait on 674 00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.360 wait, what did he get comfortable with the Midwest and the and the Southeast 675 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.440 and the east, because if not, we're just gonna be a bunch of 676 00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.800 spars. Is gonna be complaining like while are we getting this guy? We 677 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:04.159 don't know nothing about him? Because it's some great players out west, like 678 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.199 what I'm telling you was, And I think in this just my opinion, 679 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.559 I think what we're gonna get influx in is some more on than Polynesian guys 680 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.760 because I played with two pai pekoa a beast, yeah, and I think 681 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:25.760 somebody somebody yeah, yeah, dombiton. But I played with his older brother 682 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:31.000 to so they were beasts man. So my thing is, I think we're 683 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:37.079 the Midwest, especially in Michigan State. With him from the West coast region, 684 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.360 I think we're gonna get some more some more Polynesian guys, which they 685 00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.719 can play just like us, you know what I mean. They can play 686 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.800 just like the Midwest, the South and the East, and I think we're 687 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.159 gonna see more of that. But people just got to learn to say, 688 00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.440 hey, look, let this guy do his thing. Just stay calm and 689 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.480 give him his years, you know, because if you if you just trying 690 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.960 to get success in one year, you see what happened to us the last 691 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.360 couple of years. We got with success in one year, and guess what, 692 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.119 she hit the fan, you know what I mean. So if we 693 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.800 let him do his thing and not rush him to the beast, great, 694 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.800 I think I think we would be all right. But as soon as we 695 00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:15.880 start talking about all we can need. We only had four wins this year, 696 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:21.360 what he's gonna do next, then you know, you just worry about 697 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.320 wins. You're not worried about developing the program. Because none of these guys 698 00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.679 know about being a Spartan dog. None of these guys know about Michigan State 699 00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.639 football. None of these guys know about the snow and you know, like 700 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.119 right now, none of these guys know about that. Hell, I didn't 701 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.360 know about it, so I got up here. You know. So if 702 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:38.920 you just give him a chance and let him do what he need to do 703 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.679 and not post up everything and say this guy's trashed because he lost two three 704 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:49.679 games in a row, we'll be all right. She gotta give him a 705 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.519 chance. Give a man a chance, and look, look t right man, 706 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.840 before we let you go here, everybody wants to know what's going on 707 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.079 with that party behind you. Brother, we're you get that from because that 708 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:06.800 behind you that artwork? Oh man? So uh so my guy, my 709 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.599 god. You know. Jerry's is my college roommate. And he had his 710 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:14.039 painting and it was custom may for him actually, and uh he was moving 711 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.599 and he couldn't take it with him. So he called me and say, 712 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:21.039 hey, man, I got his sparking painting. You think you can? 713 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.440 You think you can put it on your wall? And I'm like, yeah, 714 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.960 I send it, he said it. I know it was this damn 715 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:32.239 big but but but yeah, so he sent it, man, and I 716 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:38.079 put it up. I want to It's not level right, so but good 717 00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.840 and I put it up. But but yeah, man, so he sent 718 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:45.199 me this man and this is cold. Man. I love it. I 719 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.960 love it. So but yeah, we also got to ask, because we 720 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.920 always ask our former dogs like what are you doing now? Full like time, 721 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.119 because I know you got your business and all that, but we got 722 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.159 to put you on like what you're doing, which actually, what's you up 723 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.400 to? Okay, two things? Two things. I got Right Way Logistics, 724 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:05.320 which is my logistics company, you know in Sprint Advance. Actually I 725 00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:09.000 was in Follerville today doing some stuff. But I do business to business delivery. 726 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:16.639 I do pretty much like plastics or like industrial material, just delivered from 727 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:21.480 one bigger business to a smaller business because they can't, you know, get 728 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.079 it in a certain amount of time. So I'm there to just pick it 729 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.039 up. So yeah, Right Way Loigiotics, y'all can look that up. 730 00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.880 I'm out there. And my next thing is film study, which you see 731 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:35.840 me and Ross out there talking. But now mind you, I have film 732 00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:43.559 study. Roth has Roth Weavers World. So so Ross's a certified trainer and 733 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.079 he's getting all kind of this man getting all kind of certifications or whatnot, 734 00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.679 and so I work with him as far as i'm trying to tap into the 735 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.880 Midwest. So if the CHET can give me some more guys from the Midwest. 736 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:55.679 I'm trying to tap into the Midwest because I got a lot of Florida 737 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:59.599 guys, but I don't have a lot of Midwest guys. Because me and 738 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.840 Ross's trying to build something in the Midwest, you know, not only for 739 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:05.559 you know, just Spartans, but just for all the kids you know, 740 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.199 around the area. And I'm in the Detroit mentro area, the Detroit metro 741 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:13.800 area, so we're trying to build something to where he does a training and 742 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.119 I do more of the film study part which I'm looking at film. I'm 743 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:22.239 critiquing what you're doing. Uh, I'm sitting back and I'm mentoring. I'm 744 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.599 I'm I'm making sure that you know. I'm talking about grades, class girls. 745 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:30.159 It don't matter. Like I'm here, I'm like big brother uncle. 746 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.639 You know I can do you know, and that, and that's what I'm 747 00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:38.360 giving. Yeah, see, you got it too. That's what one thing 748 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:43.199 I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get the kids game early, and 749 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.800 I'm trying to get the parents game early because a lot of these parents don't 750 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.320 know about recruiting and a lot of these kids and nobody recruiting. And one 751 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.719 thing what started me was I used to get an influx of film that these 752 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:57.079 kids will send me say hey, can't check my film out, And I 753 00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.159 would look at the film and I'm like, this is organizy, this don't 754 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.000 look good, and I just swiped like a recruiter would. But in my 755 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.920 line of work, I watched the whole film. So when I watched the 756 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.320 whole film, I see two or three good plays at the end of the 757 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.960 film, and then I'm like, why don't you have these players at the 758 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.320 beginning of the film. Well, I want to say the best for last. 759 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:28.400 No. Yeah, So but I end up I end up starting my 760 00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.559 service. I end up starting my service because I was doing it behind closed 761 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.480 doors for so long. But now that I've you know, now that I've 762 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.159 got so many people, I started my company. Film studyed with that, 763 00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:44.800 and we're tying hands with Ross Weavers world to do to do you know as 764 00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.440 such, you know, to get him some kids. But then it's not 765 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.400 only just me and Ross. We do. We do tie in with the 766 00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.840 other Spartan dogs. We got Mark Dale, got Greg Jones, got Coop 767 00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.559 with dig deep. You know, we got we got all that. And 768 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.840 then my partner in crime, he don't say much, but we got you 769 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:05.519 know, Todd Duckett. You know, hey, he always gonna be involved. 770 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:07.880 He just don't know it, you know what I mean. So I 771 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.599 got him, you know, And so you know, it's just a collective 772 00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.280 of spartans man and and I got some other guys out there from other schools. 773 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.280 But it's just a collective of us trying to put something together. But 774 00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.679 right now, I think I'm just trying to be that that middle rock and 775 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.840 then just branch out to other people. So you know, if anybody el's 776 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.800 got anything going on, and they got kids out there that need to get 777 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:31.800 exposure, you know, just holler at me and send me a DM or 778 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.440 whatnot and we can make it happen. Hey, how can they get hold 779 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:44.360 asking them to chat? Okay? So my my my email is uh at 780 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.079 film study say at gmail dot com. And if you say, if you 781 00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.320 want to know an essay for us todent athlete so at film study essay at 782 00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.360 gmail dot com. Uh my my twitters at film study. My I g 783 00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:00.840 is at film study so and then I gottat I just thought the Facebook group, 784 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.400 I haven't added everybody yet because I got over three thousand people on Facebook, 785 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.119 so I can't just I didn't want to just click and didn't have everybody 786 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.000 come in. So I'm going through and just making it. I'm making a 787 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:15.679 group, and this group is for for parents, coaches, college players, 788 00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.199 pro players, and trainers just to come in because what I'm gonna do is 789 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.119 I'm starting uploading kids that are two stars and lower. And you know parents 790 00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:28.400 won't feedback on their children, you know, so if say say like I 791 00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.760 upload somebody straight, and you play old line, right, so I don't. 792 00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:35.239 I'm not old lineman, so I can't. I can't give you the 793 00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.159 technique on what I can tell you. Are you moving if you got a 794 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.679 good motor, but I can't tell you about your hand placement and your and 795 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.559 your kickback? You know, are you getting to why you're too close? 796 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.800 So I would if straight in the group, then I'm like, straight, 797 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.480 you know, can you speak on this? Yeah? And you just look 798 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:53.679 at it and you used to give your feedback, you know, and it's 799 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:58.000 all positive, no negative, no, no. Talking about this kid is 800 00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:02.159 terrible. You know. Players don't act like that, right, And see, 801 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:05.800 and that's what and that's why, that's why I got the guys I 802 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.800 got, you know. But I'm not through adding people. I just started 803 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.880 it like a couple of days ago. So once that gets built up'm gonna 804 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:15.440 make a private to where you know, we can have a community to to 805 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:16.920 just talk about the kids that we see. Because I got kids. I 806 00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:21.079 want to upload now just so we can get feedback on the kids. And 807 00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:24.079 I would take that to other college coaches and say, hey, this is 808 00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:29.039 what I got, you know. So I mean, it's just something start 809 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:30.559 off with, because we got a lot of kids out here, man, 810 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.480 that get looked over, that that need a opportunity that just not just not 811 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.800 getting it. That's good stuff, man, that's good stuff. Just the 812 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.079 email right here there it is yep, yep, yep, that's the email. 813 00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:45.360 You see how quick we are. We see you see how we do 814 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.079 tvright. I appreciated. Matter of fact, y'all that quick. Send me 815 00:55:50.119 --> 00:56:00.599 a blank check. But sidon, man, hey man, this has been 816 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.880 excellent, brother. We appreciate you. Man, this has been great. 817 00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.599 I mean we could talk for a couple of hours. I know, we 818 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.840 could do about two or three hours with you on this call you know, 819 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:15.719 Tony out back there going nuts right now because we're twenty minutes over all right 820 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:23.199 to right now, something in the mail. He'd be all right, he'd 821 00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.840 be all right. No, hey man, t right. We appreciate you 822 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.840 coming on, brother, it's been real hey man, and don't be a 823 00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.039 stranger. Man, come back and we open up that group so we can 824 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.519 all be in there. We'll get some it's public right now, but I'm 825 00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.320 gonna close it up soon. Okay. No, I'm people, So I 826 00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:43.840 got you, okay, yeah, all right, man, all guys be 827 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:45.559 man. I appreciate it. Hey, t right, we got we gotta 828 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.480 go hit them spots out, man, I told you, man, I'm 829 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.440 gonna tell you for the longest. You better come home. I got you. 830 00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:01.880 We always do that. We always do it. Oh wait, alright, 831 00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.880 all right, brother, all right, go white and man t right. 832 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.880 Man, he one of a can doing this thing. Man. I 833 00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.800 love it. We love to see that. Look at it, all right. 834 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:19.119 The collection plate is out. I mean, look, man, how 835 00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.599 do I make it even fifty dollars? I don't I don't know about the 836 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:28.800 fifty dollars thing. I don't know. Try it again. If you try 837 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:37.440 it ten times. That was a great interview. Yeah, that was absolutely 838 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.920 fun. You know, I'm just having you know, former dogs come back 839 00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.719 there and you just we just sit here and just talk it. Like I 840 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:49.400 said, we in the locker room having great stories. And the really cool 841 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.559 thing too having a bunch of u once it's announced who's coming on. Uh, 842 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.079 you know, a bunch of former guys jumping in. You know you 843 00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:59.719 had Duck in the chat there, you had Ross in there as well. 844 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.199 There a bunch of other guys there. You know, it was something. 845 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:05.519 It was. It was really cool, really really cool, really cool show. 846 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.679 Absolutely, Hey, final thoughts on us before we get up out of 847 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:15.159 here. It's good. Love always chatted up with the former dogs and t 848 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.440 Wright's a guy man, so uh to the point, it was great. 849 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:21.920 I love. I love to kind of get back in that locker room just 850 00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.480 exchange stories and you know we always we always tell them the stories get better 851 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:31.000 and better tell them, right, I remember that detail that story, Like 852 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:38.480 like I got a lot of true stories, man. So highlight of the 853 00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:43.079 show is that picture he drew, because if we could go back to how 854 00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.400 he was looking at that pathfolio like serious, I mean, man, I 855 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.760 thought everybody thought you was taking notes. Yeah, I was like, he's 856 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:59.800 seriously, he's gonna be like, like, what's his name? Ross is 857 00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:07.559 at the guy that used to do the paintings on the Bob ross Man at 858 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.960 cloud Man. And by the way, I didn't see in the chat, 859 00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:19.079 Harry was talking about gymnastics six pm tomorrow and Big ten plus, so tune 860 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.159 in if you want to see that. Uh, we had a basketball game 861 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:27.079 tonight. A lot of good stuff going on in Michigan State Athletics right now. 862 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:29.920 And I mean, look, it's always great to have a dog back 863 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:35.800 on the call talking about that and playoffs. This weekend plays the playoffs. 864 00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:43.480 So this weekend gils A hosting and your Detroit inside that joint Sunday baby, 865 00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:53.519 live in there inside inside, don't catch me. We gonna win. We 866 00:59:53.559 --> 01:00:00.760 ain't got no left. We ain't got no left for Goston too tall and 867 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:14.440 Van dam Man right, the coach between those lines, man is the right 868 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:19.039 right. The collision course that we're on is it's a Lion's Bills super Bowl. 869 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.880 Oh man, Hey, I'm I'm on your pay road when come buy 870 01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:43.960 no tickets? Right? Oh my goodness, we digress. No, we 871 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.360 appreciate everybody man, it's been a great show. Hey, Hey, We'll 872 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:52.400 see you guys next week on Tuesday for ODIs Wiley, j U Cocher, 873 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:57.119 I'm Jason Straighthorn, Sparta Its you have a good night. God bless everyone 874 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:02.079 and go greet Go White. This is part of MSU is a combined presentation 875 01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.800 of Playfly Sports Properties and Michigan State Sports Properties. 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