What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season two, episode forty
four of Clips and dav I am Chuck Lockler joined by Will Updike. Adam
Oslin is working for AM five point seventy. Right now, we are live
from the press box after the game on YouTube. If you're listening to this,
thanks for listening. If you're watching, you're getting it live. The
Clippers beat the Lakers in a kind of gross game. Defensively, I don't
know, Will, how are you feeling after gets the dub behind Pawi's second
career triple double. A win is a win. I think the team petered
out a little bit in the second half. Defensively, it wasn't quite what
we'd come to expect. This wasn't the Clippers team that we've seen through December
and stretches of January. But still they were able to get it done.
It was an ugly game, they gritted it out. So overall, feeling
good, you know, feeling good, feel a lot worse if we lost.
Yes, I am too. Oh, we we have a secret.
We're gonna get to some chat comments in the second shout out Jeremy Mormon.
But we have a surprise dropping right now. Who is this? What is
going up? Welcome? Ohoh it's my award? How are you everyone?
My wife doesn't know I'm on here, so I only have a couple of
seconds. I just wanted to say the Clippers are now fifteen and two.
When Russell westword plays less than twenty minutes, it was I was really nervous.
I was really nervous that he was going to keep him in there.
He pulled him. I knew we were gonna win. It was gonna be
so great. Well, thank you? Do you have to go now?
No? I can stay for all right? Cool. Well, so Jeremy
Mormon's pointing out a very funny thing. If you watch the game. Russ
lost a shoe and then nail the three, and then proceeded to play the
next defensive possession without a shoe. But God saved by a whistle. We're
gonna talk the Clippers defense and stuff like that, which was not very good
in this game. We're gonna talk Kawhi as well. He was a triple
double. But this was the full Russ experience tonight, yeay or nay?
Joseph I award, I mean other than him actually hitting threes. Yes,
it was the full Russ experience. It's like you live by it or die
by it. I think that the biggest thing that Russ brings, you know,
on clips at Brian and I used to talk about like the chaos guy.
Yeah, and we always wanted it to be someone in the mode of
like Pat beev right, which is like good to neutral chaos, whereas with
Russ you're on either end of the spectrum. It's either like you are flying
on the highest high or you are flying on the lowest low. And so
I think it was really funny. He was like three for three from deep,
but I think he was one for four at the room or something like
that. So it's just it's so wild to watch him play. And I
think it's like it's just it's this roller coaster that I don't enjoy. I
just don't enjoy the highs and lows of it. I love the highs.
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm here for great Well. He
just he needs the ball so much more than someone in the PATV type of
mold. That it's right, you know, it's it's it's a lot more
responsibility. It does get a lot more nerve wracking yes, just just due
to the sheer fact of that, like off ball, there's not really a
whole lot that he can provide. So yeah, it's it's it's the degree
of variability is always going to be very high when the ball is in your
hands that much of the time, right. I I don't want to commandeer
your show, but we probably should talk about some of these comments about the
bigs and Paul George, So yeah, do we want we should maybe talk
Yeah, the let's talk the bigs. And there was some Paul George concern
with he got his leg wrapped and then immediately went back out on the court,
which gave me a little bit. Ye, but let's talk the Zoo
thing. Miles Johnson saying centers have been absolutely brutal since Zoo got hurt.
They have been. Mason Plumley, I give the benefit of the doubt because
he came from an injury and then was like, hey, Zoo's out,
so you need to be playing it maybe your highest level ever, like to
make up for this. So I don't blame tys Is Tye though, like
I think, I don't know if they've been brutal. I think they've been
what they are which is rough compared to what Zoo was. It's brutal for
the amount of minutes you have to play them without Zoo, right, Like,
the plan was never for for these like for Mason to be the starting
center and for for Tye to be a backup to this level. You know,
if Plumbley had knock gone down, I mean, where are we really
right now in Zoo's absence? So yeah, I agree, it's it's been
really it's been really difficult. I if you're looking for a light out of
the at the end of the tunnel, though, outside of Zoo coming back,
I don't really have one for you right now. When's he coming back?
Tell us will when is Zoo coming back? So that is also just
to kind of temper people's expectations. I guess Zoo's reevaluated in four weeks from
the injury, so I think Zoo's going to be out a total of six
weeks would be my guess. If you look at how the All Star break
lines up, are we at week two right now or we're like just over
one week in right I think we're just a week I think we're at week
two. Yeah, turning the corner into week two did we And so from
this game specific, we're kissing week two U and this game specifically, it's
kind of funny. Mason Plumbley was a plus four with no points in twenty
minutes, which is insane. Yeah, well it was this game. The
defense by the Clippers was bad. Yeah, for this game, we scored
seventy seven points at half, which was great, but it was seventy seven
to sixty four. And that's where you see Zoo's loss. Like we had
so many paint touches on offense, but on defense, it was just like
there was nothing to stabilize anybody. Guys were all over the place. It
was rough. It's so funny to me to watch the games like tonight and
then against the against the nets, you can see the guys acting as though
Zoo is still back there. So the game plan still seems to be,
like, Okay, if you're beat, it's fine. Does Kawhi get a
triple double ifsos there tonight? I do not think so. Probably not.
I don't think he gets the words. Someone commented like, well, someone's
got a rebound for the Clippers, and I was like, that's actually a
great point. Like Kawhi was the best rebounder of anybody. Are there positives
to Zoo being gone? No, Charles Mott, not what I'm saying.
Triple double Kawhi mode activated. All right, So let's talk Let's talk PG
because PG, and then we'll get to Kawhi's greatness. Mike dang great last
name, uh said, what's with PG tonight? Did he get bench or
was he hurt? Really odd passes from him? The bench thing was weird.
It seems like they took him out and then checked on his knee and
then he was right back out there. But this was a rough night.
That doesn't mean much for this Clippers like his leg. Yeah, I think
if we've learned anything that a player returning right back out there isn't necessarily a
vote of confidence long term. I feel like Joseph, is this a stupid
idea. Harden was very aggressive to start this game, which was great offensively.
It looked like that may be messed with Peach's rhythm a little bit.
I think he had what two shots in the first quarter or something like that,
Like he just couldn't find any space. Yeah, I mean, I
think Paul is wont to disappear. He he is someone who will float away
as a game if a game just kind of gets away from him. I
do think that the Clippers at various times have made efforts to have made efforts
to get Paul going, and it's been great. You know, he gets
going early, but then he disappears late. So it's just I think it's
just Paul. I do kind of wonder though, with the whole like closing
with a mere coffee, you getting a treas shift Terrence coming in and out
that there was a year by the way, a shadow minutes restriction or something.
Maybe he's got something nagging and before the Grammy trip they didn't want to
like push him too hard. I wouldn't put that past the Clippers, But
I also wouldn't put it past Paul to have no leg below his knee,
go play a game, pretend like he's fine, come back into a game,
and then be out, you know, for whatever. So you never
know. Yeah, I guess there's something to keep an eye on during the
road trip. Coffee also did play really really well too, Like It's not
like the decision to me was completely baffling. I thought the Powell lineup with
Coffee out there was had some great stretches and Coffee played. I thought exceptionally,
a mere coffee is playing the perfect A mere coffee is playing championship level
basketball for his role. Yeah, yeah, like he's been and with the
offseason he had just his overall Clippers career. I think am here Coffee is
maybe my favorite story this year for the Clippers. I like this comment from
Miles Johnson. Harden then got super passive in the second half and kind of
lost his rhythm. James Harden was on a tear to open this game,
I guess the Lakers. But then I think he's kind of right things.
If you watch this game, that third quarter was the most frustrating frustrated I
think I've been watching the Clippers this season. It felt like there was zero
paint penetration. It seemed like the only person was get who was getting to
the paint was the only person who can't make layups, which is very problematic
for the Clippers. Yes, that can be bad. What did you notice,
I'll go ahead, Joe. No, it's just it's the same story
against the Lakers. There's never been a normal game against the Lakers. They
always go up big and then they decide, okay, we did our job,
and then the Lakers get back into it, and then it's like for
a little bit and yeah, it's it's another roller coast drive like off of
I think in this first half the Clippers had more points in the paint in
that first half than of any half so far this season. And then the
defense just was bleeding points to the Lakers. In the second half, it
was defense. There was at one point there was a five on four because
Cam Reddish got hurt and the Clippers lost those two possessions by two points.
They would have lost it bout five after like a really bad PG turnover.
But like that was that was the most brutal thing. I don't know.
I'm happy we won, though they Will said it on the pod like this.
These the Clippers were ten point favorites for this game, which is like
absolutely insane if you actually watch Clippers Lakers anytimes. Yeah, but I'm just
happy they got the win. Cashed, right, Uh did a cash?
I don't they Yeah they did, they did. Wow, Will did you
tell your boss to take the under? I did tell it Core take the
under so I might not be on the stream. Good thing, good thing,
I hammered that over. Yeah, Hey, boss, go ahead and
put my next paycheck on that other baby. So let's talk Kawhi. Kahi
had a second career triple double, the quietest triple double uh in the history
of the Clippers. I think he was fantastic. Twenty five eleven and ten
plus two steals in a block, plus fifteen in this game. Josepher will
who wants to talk how great Kawhi was this night? A stabilizing presence for
a horrific game. From that standpoint, well, I'm just gonna give something
brief because I have to know, Joseph, give us some positivity, trying
to trying to, you know, break down the door so that I come
back. I'm going against my wife and my doctor's wishes. He said,
you can't go on any more podcasts. Your ticker, your ticker can It's
bad. Yeah, Kawhi is awesome the whole season in rest. I like
it on Kawhi's shoulders. And he has carried the team since. Since that's
true. I did say that he has carried the team since the lineup change,
and I think that it it coincides with the lineup change, but also
Kawhi running into shape. That's a cripple double is killing me. A cripple
double. Wow, that's that's so funny. He only shot left handed all
night. I think that I wish he would have got for I just love
watching him play and and like he does things that are that are dumb,
but he's Kawhi and it works, like when he went up against Reeves and
like turned around and then split the defenders and then kind of just flung it
at the rim with one hand and then it bound six times to win in
it's just when he's when he's on, the Clippers can win the title.
Yeah, I agree, I would. I would have liked to see the
Clippers take advantage from outside a little bit more when Kawhi was getting those super
aggressive double teams. Yeah that's a good call. Do you have to leave
now, Joseph? I do actually have to thank you so much, Joseph.
We'll see you later. But I want to talk about Reeves on Kauhi.
There were some times where I was like, I didn't know Reeves could
maybe a lot COI up like this, So I do we do have to
get a little bit of credit, uh, to Austin Reeves for some of
his defense on Kauwhi, but I think Joseph nailed it right like Kawhi.
We talked about how Kawhi and PG are averaging, you know, basically the
same points per game. It's like twenty two point eight and twenty two point
nine or something, but just looks very different exactly, And that's how the
triple double sneaks up on you. Kawhi was wildly efficient. I think he
hit his first eight shots in this game or something like that. He ended
up eleven for sixteen. The lack of foul calls in this game for the
Clippers was insane down low. I don't know what the refs were doing in
this game. It was overall a slow whistle on both sides. Like it,
you know, they didn't Neither team really spent a lot of time in
the bonus in this one, but I agree there was. I think that's
what led to some of the issues with the paint penetration in that in the
second half, is like there was a lot of contact there. Not going
to say whether it was like right or wrong, especially, but I do
think that it made guys a little bit more tentative to go there. Yeah,
I totally agree, and the Clippers defense didn't even really give the refs
like a chance to try and draw the line because there was no real defense
kind of in the paint in this one. Yeah, I'm still kind of
just trying to I know we won the game, and I know Kawhi was
fantastic. Mike dang, Yeah, go ahead. Well, yeah, I
feel like we got to talk about Norm Powell too, because I thought when
the offense really stalled out there to start the fourth, I mean, how
long was it until we got our second field goal of that quarter? Like
it was it was like a four minute Yeah, and Norm was able to
kind of turn things around and get things going. You'd finished with seventeen five
and two, just a great game, fifty seven percent from the floor.
Only hit one of his threes, which is really really characteristic, one of
four for Norm. Yeah, and that three came in the fourth. He
was one for two in the fourth. He hit his three other shots at
the rim. Norm hit a layup. This game was pretty much out of
hand. That was the most like it was like a hook. It was
a half hook like this, and it went real high off the glass on
the right back end. So we really you gotta appreciate Norman Powell. Tonight,
josephry Ward, who was just on here, mentioned that the Clippers might
be trying to trade Norman Powell. I hope that doesn't happen. I do
not think that's happening because they just can't do it. But yeah, this
Clippers team, this is a game and I always said this last game.
Did they lose this game last year? Did they let what happened in the
third quarter seep even more into the fourth? And do they this was this
was a different at a different team win. I liked it that we got
the win. Look, I mean it depends like if we get the sort
of like the insane role players step up sort of wins that we came accustomed
to in the year before last season, Like maybe they put it away,
maybe they were able to do it. If it is, you know,
two one three at the level that we saw last year, no James Harden,
that's definitely a loss. Like I don't know, especially with Paul kind
of having an off night, that's not a game that they can put away
with without that without without an extra guy, yeah, exactly, an extra
guy, and without the contributions we got from everyone on the bench tonight.
You know, we talked to Russ and Norman and Amir and stuff like that.
Yeah, I don't know what was kind of Yeah, this is just
it's a good way in the Clippers having insane road trip. I'm happy they
got this win. Eleven games. Wait, it's an eleven game road trip.
I thought it was eleven. I think it's seven. If it's eleven,
I'm quitting. I don't know what I'm doing. Let's talk the other
team, because we do have to talk about the the other side of the
ball in this one. Yeah, Anthony Davis twenty six and twelve, damseler
Russell twenty seven and ten assists. I think someone put in the chat that
you called. Yeah, we got a comment from Wamie who said, we'll
literally called Damsel going off for no reason. Yeah, let's kind of play
here is his name's been in trade rumors like he he kind of shows up
for Clippers games. It feels like this. I thought this in the third
quarter. I thought this was gonna be Oh, Damsel Russell's going to ruin
our night tonight. I appreciate him. He's my high numbers, low impact
king. I think that's I think that's fair. He was minus seven in
this game. No, I've loved that about him since, Like when he
went to the nets, we didn't have really an answer. The defense on
Daniel Russell was a little frustrating. We didn't really have an answer for a
d obviously, no real bigs or anything like that. They did their best
to pull them away. And the mid range jumpers we got a couple.
There's children playing basketball on the court by Sorry about that, everyone listening.
But now just the size thing was on full display here. We had some
comments to you talking about just like just the size right like this this small
ball lineup. How are we feeling about this ramp up in small ball minutes?
Do you think that this will sustain itself? Do you think we're gonna
see this one Zoo's back. No, you think it's You think it's just
the spell for the next It's such a big chunk of time. It's the
only reason I'm wondering. Look, I think there might be stretches for sure,
and there are matchups where it could be advantageous, But I think the
most numbers aside. The craziest thing about Zoo has changed this year is the
level of trust that he has in closing lineups and it just adds, it
just adds another layer to what the Clippers can do defensively. And I'm not
saying that it's gonna work in the in the playoffs against every team or in
you know, every night, but I think that that is really significant and
I it just makes the most sense to have him as your defensive anchor out
there whenever you possibly can, and with the pickup offensively that you know,
the added value offensively that James Harden adds for zoo uh, it mitigates really
like what what negatives you would have? But to him being on the floor
right like you know that that's the biggest thing is like what does it do
to the offense? Is he getting blown by guys? Which has He's been
passed for a while now, We've seen him in the playoffs even be passed
like you know that first you know Warriors series in the Shay years when he
looked completely lost out there. So yeah, his growth is I'm excited for
the just just to see what does in the playoffs this year. There is
some news coming out about Paul George's groin injury. Left groin injury from last
month is being managed by the team per Tyleru. This quote below is from
La Murray, an excellent reporter and a quick aside while this announcer yells behind
me, if you're able to show love to Andrew Griffe or anything like that,
give him a shout out on Twitter. Andrew Grive was laid off by
the La Times. It's horrible for journalism, horrible for the Clippers. Be
so anyway, shout out Andrew and everyone who works who got laid off for
the time. So it's is brutal, amazing b writer. But Eric we
confused in the comments about Paul George's groin. He said, I didn't realize
PG was making passes with his groin. Maybe he should try them with his
hands. Hey, fair point, Eric, We're not gonna We're not gonna
knock that guidance. But the Paul George groin thing, what's your level of
starting with this? He had a rap on his knee. No one's making
it sound like anything too serious, which I don't think is super surprising.
Scale a one to ten. Where are you at? Well until we get
further news, I mean it's it's kind of a five, like there's some
level of concern, but it's fairly neutral. I just hope it doesn't have
to be exacerbated over these road games. I mean, there were some things
tonight, like execution wise, where I mean they were they were subbing Paul
in and out to to manage the injury, of course, but like they
shouldn't have needed him, you know what I mean, they like they they
shouldn't have, Like they shouldn't have had to rely on him as much in
this game in a normal scenario. But you know, like Joseph said,
there's no normal scenario between these two teams anytime they meet up. It's very
very bizarre. It's odd to it's odd. What things to take away from
it, like Clippers season high in paint points? Like how real is that
against like a large team? No Lebron is you know, is that something
that they could exploit against another team? But then they completely you know,
it looked completely different in the second half. So I don't know. DJ
Dance is calling a hell of a pickup game behind us. Yeah, So,
Paul George, for this road trip, you mentioned the Clippers go it
is seven games, not eleven. No worries, the Clippers go Raptors Celtics,
Calves, Wizards, Pistons, heat Hawks, so pretty top heavy to
start. You know, you got new look Raps who we know we're gonna
run us, We're gonna run. You got the Celtics, you got the
Calves. It gets a little easier with that Wizard's pistons. Scratch it there,
But this is I hope. I hope his growings not put too much
of the test. A lot of people are in the chat put the groin
to the test. I don't want them to. A lot of people are
saying that this game showed the size issue for the Clippers. The game is
not worth this much comment. Chare would you once Sue is back? People
in the chat, does your concern for another big go away? Because I
think games like this, we're gonna have four weeks and know Zoo at least,
I think we're gonna maybe get conditioned to thinking this team is smaller than
it is. Well, I'll go to you while people form their thoughts.
Uh in the chat. But when Zoo comes back to you think the Clippers
still need another power forwards? Hmmm? I mean it's like one of those
nice to have it just I like Jeremy Mormon's very blunt response, I don't
really think it's necessary. I'm feeling really good about this roster. Like I
I think, like a little marginal move or something, but I think the
idea of like a more dynamic four. I mean, you're not getting someone
like even like an Aaron Gordon level. I mean, I think someone like
I would love an Aaron Gordon level. I mean you're I mean, I'm
just saying you're definitely not getting that. Yeah, I don't know. I
think like a marginal move makes sense. I think with the way this season
is gone thus far, I'm feeling even less comfortable with giving up the twenty
thirty pick. Oh yeah, I think have to be Oh just I mean,
unless Norm is going out, the biggest thing, you have to offer
a value, and if Norm is going out, you need so now you're
talking about a four who's a solid defender and also like you yeah, like,
I'm just I'm sorry, I'm not like, I'm just not seeing it
out there. If we could have it, would I love it? Yeah?
Of course that'd be great. Yeah I would. Hey, Mike Dang
proposed PJ bones plus fillers for our old buddy John Collins. I don't think
it would work, but I guess I would take that. So if it's
no, if it's no pick, sure. Yeah. Someone also mentioned something
about the minutes like, oh here we go. Uh, Redizi Entertainment says,
if flips out of Power Forward, whose minutes are going away? IMO,
this team's healthy is best case scenario. I think I'm with diz Entertainment
here, Like this team norms play. You go down the roster, find
the guy who's playing real minutes, who's not playing well right now? Yeah,
I mean I think kind of. I think if you could get you
know, uh, not even an all star level player, but a wrung
below like a legit fourth option, uh, maybe that would bump Terrence out
of the lineup. But I you know, like I said, I don't
know that that's really necessary. If if, what if Terrence's production right now
is the single thing that's holding this Clippers team back from like a deep,
a deep playoff run, then we got some issues, man, we got
we got some real issues there. Yeah, Chaizong said, I'm not goingly
trying to send out any first round picks with the age of this core.
I agree that. Yeah, that's where that's where I'm at and that's that's
gonna be a huge hamper in any any maneuverings that the Clippers can do.
Is like I, you know, it's not like we're playing poorly, like
I, We're not so desperate that we need to give up the twenty thirty
And look, man, twenty thirty is just that's a that's a long time
away. That's a long time away. And even yeah, you could protect,
you can try to protect the hell out of the pick, and you
know, so it's it's less of like a real first rounder. But I
don't know how much value that really offers then in terms of the trade value.
So yeah, would it be nice? Yeah? Do I see it
as a realistic possibility. Not today January Not today January twenty third, twenty
twenty four. I like Jeremy Mormon's idea trade the twenty thirty pick top twenty
nine protected absolutely. I also just a note for the listeners and people watching,
it is not small children playing basketball. There are grown men playing basketball
right now against children on the court, against children. Miles Johnson says,
uh, you know, uh, we only really have two forwards with five
guards with the current rotation, so we would also like, I mean,
you know, a consolidation move would make sense, but like, what what
two guards do you want to part with for a forward? Right? And
it's not gonna be Russ. We're not They're not trading Russell Westbrook for the
locker room. There's no way they're trading Russell Westbrook. It would be mutiny
if the Clippers trade. I don't know that it would be mutiny. But
Paul George needs his buddy. And I mean that maybe, but Paul George
needs Russell Westbrook. They didn't sign Pat Patterson. Yeah, but Pat patt
was Look what yes in this scenario? Yes? Uh, yeah, this
I don't know. And I I the top eight, in the top nine
is so good right now for the Clips. Yes. So someone's saying Boston
and Highland. But Brandon Boston Jr. I'm fine with parting with. I
don't think he has a future for the Clippers. No disrespect to him.
He hasn't cracked the rotation yet. It's just not there. Bones Hiland I
want to keep. Yeah, this is gonna sound nuts, but I know
that he's not even in the rotation right now. I've talked about this a
little bit before. I don't think that means that he is out out with
the age of this team. I think I don't know unless you're going in,
like unless you're going in for the ultimate win now move, which would
be I don't know, like Jeremy Grant or something like I don't really be
huge like I unless it's like a really big acquisition, which I mean with
salary cap stuff. Who even knows how that would work out. I don't
know. I would prefer a whole on the Highlands, even though he's not
currently in the rotation. Yeah, great teammate too, great locker room guys
so far. Scott Tran says os in PJ. Tucker are the only tradable
pieces I think. I think Jane Tucker is not tradable. He is a
salary filler, but still he still has an extra year. He's not even
an expiring so like you have to sweeten the deal to get a team to
take on bad money. About that In terms of sweetening the deal with PJ.
Tucker, that's where you get into terror of like maybe a mirror has
to go out because a mer is overplaying his four million dollar contract and that
would suck, or Bones because Bones is at what six or five or something,
So I think, yeah, like that's there were rumors that the Wizards
would maybe take on PJ to buy him out and stuff, but we'd have
to take on like Landry Shammitt for the most part. Like I don't know
a name that's been really popular that JJ the Boy brought up is Jrian Phiney
Smith. I would love I would love DFS. You're part of the DFS
army. They are out in full support for getting him on the Clippers.
He's a perfect like, he's a perfect role player, championship kind of level
wing that you know, if he if he doesn't have a huge role,
I don't think that that's an issue for him, and he could slot in
pretty well. Damn. So Bones makes two point three million dollars this year
and then four next year. So Bones is even hard to trade because it's
just such little money. Chiso again shout out. I don't think we're getting
DFS or anything. I agree one hundred percent. I agree hundred percent.
It's going to be a buyers market for a player like that. We got
to get the Eric on here. Yeah, the Kelly Olink talk, you
had a good point about the Terry Rozier trade in relation to the Kelly Olinic
trade. Oh yeah, I mean like if if the the cost for if
the cost was for Rosier was essentially a first round pick, and not only
were the Hornets willing to give up Rosier, but they would take on bad
money. I just don't think. I don't think the Jazz are getting a
first round pick unless it's like crazy protections for Kelly Olinic, which I know
has been like sort of the thing floating around. And I'm sure, I'm
sure that's like what what aange wants. I don't think you're gonna get that
age wants a first and like six seconds uh for Kelly Olinok would be my
guess. Somebody asked about the value of our seconds and I would say,
those are sweeteners in a deal. You know, what are the value of
any seconds? Yeah, no disrespect to the question. All. I generally
have no idea. We got four when we traded for Luke Canard Chunk Samson.
I would I would argue Chunk Samson goat name a goat name clips and
dip livestream goat as well. He thinks bones Terrence and PJ. Washington plus
QUI PG and Harden is a solid core for the next four to five years.
A lot of a lot of Clippers, Frands, WoT PJ Washington too.
These are assets. It's not like you can't get anything to them if
it doesn't work out. I think I like this idea. I'm just gonna
say this right now. Yeah, if they open into a dome and they
retain all three of of Kawhi, PG and Harden, the idea of flipping
anyone is gone. I'm like, I'm sorry, Like they're gonna ride that
into the sunset. And so if if Clippers can't get it done in the
next year or two, I'm sorry, but you need to be prepared for
you know, just thinking about the glory days for a couple of years.
Well, we got well at that, we'll have the chip, we'll have
that that championship we're looking at, so that'll be good. Chaizong said that
those seconds around his viable as pg's ability to sling groin passes. I think
that's maybe fair, not zero, but not enough. I think I think
that's fair. Yeah, we talked a little bit too about the Paul George
contract, but I think we're all kind of that's gonna get figured out.
I think they're gonna be able to negotiate down from the max, especially if
he's got a groin injury. I'm no fun intended folks. All Right,
we should get out of here. I'm just kidding. Well, we got
have like ten fifteen more minutes. Yeah, man, I'm still yeah.
This uh, this is a good win. I'm happy we finally out the
win. Not finally, it's been pretty good for the last six years or
so. But that's a frustrating game. I'm bumm. We didn't get to
see kind of lebron plays because I wanted to see both these teams full I
mean full strength and whatnot. Still don't feel good about seeing them. Not
I don't feel like horrible. But Adam our other so again is working.
Listening to Am working on a five to seventy right now, if you want
to go listen to him. He would be worried about the Lakers in a
first round series, and I think that's fair. It's not really home court
advantage for the Clippers. It's a size issue. We know that that other
team shows up more for the playoffs. I would not feel comfortable in a
first round matchup. I think we would win still and be favorites, but
I would not be comfortable about it would be I mean, it would be
an annoying It would be an annoying matchup, especially with how team, like
how historically close these teams have played. Yeah, it wouldn't it wouldn't be
a fun one. It also, like you know, we were talking about
this the other day, like your home court advantage has to mean something,
right, or it's it's not really a truly home court advantage, you know,
like it's it's great that you can be at home and you know,
literally just at home. Yeah, and like from the arena to your house
in thirty minutes or whatever. But if you don't have the crowd, which
this is the only this is the only state him in all of the NBA
where that that could be the case, where like despite being at home,
you're not really you're not really the home team. I do want to give
it. We should give a shout out. Two o seven tonight at Staples
was great. Shout out to the Clippers fans were here. It was a
real battle fan wise, but the Clippers fans really showed up. They were
awesome for that that Thunder game too. Oh here's an interesting one. Is
Isaiah Stewart obtainable from Detroit? He would be perfect. I don't know if
we need a fourth summer. Aren't they pretty aren't they pretty tired on him?
I know he's like one of the few process that people actually love.
I don't know about I think Detroit's ready to trade everybody except for Caide maybe.
Yeah, I don't know what his contract? What's he make? Talking
about this Paul George Groin injury thing? Do we see him? Do we
see him suit up against the Celtics in Boston? Which is the game after
they play the Raptors. Ooh ooh, ooh ooh, that's in Sorry,
I'm just pulling up schedule right here. That's in four days. Yeah,
I think he'll play against Boston Raptors. By the way, who we play
on Friday, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Friday have lost their last
three straight. So I don't like that. Had a great position for the
Clippers. I really don't like that. Yeah, should we should we let
Russ play with one shoe on too as prove as outside shot? Yeah?
You no reason not to. Yeah, let's keep Rus comfortable. Anything else
you want to get down someone saying Grandpa Lebron very funny? Was he in
the building the night? I didn't see him? BEEFS two is making five
point two mill? Do we have anyone young and good enough to give the
like? I? This is this Detroit want? Did they want players?
Do they just want picks? They've been so good at drafting. I don't
know they wouldn't want You know who encapsulates Detroit basketball spirit to a T PJ.
Tucker? He would be a great culture piece for them. Let's go
ahead and trade with He could turn that thing around instantly. Oh, here
we go. You need his event. Gregarious One says, would we announce
a PG extension before making a trade? Oh? I don't know if they
would, but that is something interesting to look at for Clippers fans. That's
a great take, Gregarious One, keep an eye on that. Let's keep
an eye if they Because Lawrence Francas said, what we're you know, he's
gonna do his due diligence, which is kind of what he says every single
time. I don't know if they'd announce it. I don't know if they'd
make a trade before signing PG. I just think it's I like the question
a lot. I like the question. I don't think those two things are
related. Interesting, Like, I don't think I don't think the trade market
and pg's extension are the trades that the Clippers would make us a huge Yeah,
it doesn't matter for this year, right, And that's what the Clippers
need to be focused on, need to be focused on this year because chances
are more likely than not, there's you're not getting this many games out of
quiet Paul George again, and I'm I'm sorry, but you're probably not getting
this many the percentage that they've played that they've been available this year, you
know, not to mention that you you don't even have Harden locked up for
sure next season. It needs to be about this year. So I don't
think any trade factors in at all to what Paul George's extension is going to
be. I really think they're kicking the can down the road, even on
on what it's going to look like contract wise, if they are able to
retain their big three. And you know, Kawhi was the first Domino to
fall and what and you know, we were lucky to have him take less
than what he you know, theoretically could have gotten. But I I expect
the Clippers to hold pretty firm in their idea of not of not expending max
money. Yeah. I think that's and not because it's like, yeah,
not because Paul George isn't worth max money, but it's just not in the
car. It's like, I don't know, I just don't think that can
work financially to keep a competitive team together. That's so we got a couple
of questions. Youre x mongo project, how likely is it that we're making
a trade this season? Not as likely as last year, earlier before that,
but not. It would be shocked if there wasn't something, a Margins
move, even just getting PJ. Tucker off the roster for somebody who could
come in and eat up five fowels, you know what I mean, Like
I would be kind of shocked. Yeah, I would be kind of surprised
if there was nothing. Do I think that it's going to be another home
run trade? Not not today, not today. On January twenty third,
I think that we've done the big We've already done the biggest mid season trade
of the season for the Clippers, and it just happened to happen much earlier,
which is actually a benefit. So that's a good call. Great question
here from David Naggi. Which team currently in the top eight of the West
do you think would be the easiest first round matchup? For those of you
wondering, the Clippers are sitting at fourth, their current matchups for the top
eight would be between the Pels, Sons, Kings, and Mavericks. Fuck
man, I don't like any of those, David, I guess I would
go Kings if we're fully healthy. I'm going Kings because our size is better
than theirs. And how are you even getting that matchup in the first round?
They're vaulting into five. I don't know. Yeah, sure, I
don't see it. Man, all right, So what's your answer? Which
are the teams currently in the top eight? Who would you think is his
first roun matchup? This is gonna sound crazy, but for me it's I
think it's the Timberwolves. Really, I think it's the Timberwolves. I don't
love it as a first round matchup, but if that's the second round matchup,
I would say the Clippers are are definitely making another Western Conference final appearance,
but this is first round matchup. I'm just saying I would I like
it. In the first round matchup, love it in the second round.
I don't know how that happens in the first round. Your scenario sells more
improbable than mine. But I'm going Kings. A couple other people said,
Kings two. The twos offense just isn't for real and they still have like
despite you having vets on the team that like, despite Carl for so long,
Like, it's just I'm serious, it's not a serious team. Uh
J and CTN Junction says, give me that, Dallas smoke. I don't
know how they're ready for that. No, I love it. I love
it. That would be some good basketball. My heart would explode, but
it would be some good basketball. Give us, give us all your guards.
You got a team that that completely revolves around guards. Let's go,
We'll let's do it. Let's be the big team. That's what would be
nice. We would be the big team against the Kings in the maps.
Okay, So Ben is saying, I have no faith in the Pells,
can't see them winning for I weirdly really do not want to play them in
the first round. I don't want to. Well, historically, it's historically
that the Pelicans Clippers matchup has not been very favorable for their big like without
Zion healthy even so, and they're big like it's it's a it's a real
problem x Bongo projects or Jeremy Moore and says I can't with Dallas anymore.
Well, so the question was I would I don't want to play the Lakers
in the in the first round at all. Well, you know it's because
Luke always spanks the Clippers. You know we all know that. Sure,
yeah, historically those individual games. Anything else you want to touch on before
we head out. I'm feeling so good after this win. I ain't to
get a hot dog, hot dog, hot dog yeah from the people outside.
Yeah, all right, I think we're about to head out. Thank
you to everyone for hanging out on the stream. Oh wait, as this
is not possible. Uh. There was the talk about HERM Jones being traded,
which Adam Oslin does not believe, which I think is so funny.
But yeah, HERD Jones would be a Clippers film. I love HERB Jones'
game, but he would rip our hearts out. JJ the boy saying victory,
Glizzie, That's exactly what I'm wanna go do. It's gonna be bacon
wrapped with onions and peppers. Everyone knows what's happening right now. I wanna
have hartburd later. It's been great. Adam Oslyn usually sends us out with
something positive, but I'm gonna put that on will Updyke. Let's get something
positive before the seven game road trip. Look, it was a nasty it
was a nasty win, but at the end of the day, it's still
a win. I'm expecting the Clippers to not look at their peak through some
of this road game, but iron shipe sharpens iron baby, and they're gonna
be all the better for it when they return home in February. Let's go
clips. Hope to see y'all at the next game. Hell yeah, I
hope to see still feel like to hop on the postgame stream let us know.
Yeah, it's a good time. Congrats to Kawhi, PG and Harden
for being in the US Olympic player pool. We're gonna be back with a
full pod with Adam tomorrow or Thursday, we don't really know. Reviews and
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