1 00:00:14,839 --> 00:00:19,359 What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season two, episode forty 2 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,199 four of Clips and dav I am Chuck Lockler joined by Will Updike. Adam 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,519 Oslin is working for AM five point seventy. Right now, we are live 4 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:31,199 from the press box after the game on YouTube. If you're listening to this, 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,079 thanks for listening. If you're watching, you're getting it live. The 6 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:38,799 Clippers beat the Lakers in a kind of gross game. Defensively, I don't 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,679 know, Will, how are you feeling after gets the dub behind Pawi's second 8 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:47,679 career triple double. A win is a win. I think the team petered 9 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:51,600 out a little bit in the second half. Defensively, it wasn't quite what 10 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,320 we'd come to expect. This wasn't the Clippers team that we've seen through December 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,359 and stretches of January. But still they were able to get it done. 12 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,799 It was an ugly game, they gritted it out. So overall, feeling 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,640 good, you know, feeling good, feel a lot worse if we lost. 14 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:07,799 Yes, I am too. Oh, we we have a secret. 15 00:01:08,439 --> 00:01:11,200 We're gonna get to some chat comments in the second shout out Jeremy Mormon. 16 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:15,079 But we have a surprise dropping right now. Who is this? What is 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,840 going up? Welcome? Ohoh it's my award? How are you everyone? 18 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:23,799 My wife doesn't know I'm on here, so I only have a couple of 19 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,079 seconds. I just wanted to say the Clippers are now fifteen and two. 20 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:32,079 When Russell westword plays less than twenty minutes, it was I was really nervous. 21 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:34,439 I was really nervous that he was going to keep him in there. 22 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,319 He pulled him. I knew we were gonna win. It was gonna be 23 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:40,560 so great. Well, thank you? Do you have to go now? 24 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:42,439 No? I can stay for all right? Cool. Well, so Jeremy 25 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:46,879 Mormon's pointing out a very funny thing. If you watch the game. Russ 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,599 lost a shoe and then nail the three, and then proceeded to play the 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:57,480 next defensive possession without a shoe. But God saved by a whistle. We're 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 gonna talk the Clippers defense and stuff like that, which was not very good 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:06,560 in this game. We're gonna talk Kawhi as well. He was a triple 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,039 double. But this was the full Russ experience tonight, yeay or nay? 31 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:15,719 Joseph I award, I mean other than him actually hitting threes. Yes, 32 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,120 it was the full Russ experience. It's like you live by it or die 33 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:24,680 by it. I think that the biggest thing that Russ brings, you know, 34 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,360 on clips at Brian and I used to talk about like the chaos guy. 35 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,719 Yeah, and we always wanted it to be someone in the mode of 36 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,159 like Pat beev right, which is like good to neutral chaos, whereas with 37 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:44,159 Russ you're on either end of the spectrum. It's either like you are flying 38 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:47,800 on the highest high or you are flying on the lowest low. And so 39 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,360 I think it was really funny. He was like three for three from deep, 40 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:54,680 but I think he was one for four at the room or something like 41 00:02:54,719 --> 00:03:01,159 that. So it's just it's so wild to watch him play. And I 42 00:03:01,199 --> 00:03:07,240 think it's like it's just it's this roller coaster that I don't enjoy. I 43 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,840 just don't enjoy the highs and lows of it. I love the highs. 44 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:14,000 I don't know what you're talking about. I'm here for great Well. He 45 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:17,159 just he needs the ball so much more than someone in the PATV type of 46 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:21,479 mold. That it's right, you know, it's it's it's a lot more 47 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,960 responsibility. It does get a lot more nerve wracking yes, just just due 48 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,199 to the sheer fact of that, like off ball, there's not really a 49 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:34,199 whole lot that he can provide. So yeah, it's it's it's the degree 50 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:38,159 of variability is always going to be very high when the ball is in your 51 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,639 hands that much of the time, right. I I don't want to commandeer 52 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,919 your show, but we probably should talk about some of these comments about the 53 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,560 bigs and Paul George, So yeah, do we want we should maybe talk 54 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,599 Yeah, the let's talk the bigs. And there was some Paul George concern 55 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,400 with he got his leg wrapped and then immediately went back out on the court, 56 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,240 which gave me a little bit. Ye, but let's talk the Zoo 57 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,120 thing. Miles Johnson saying centers have been absolutely brutal since Zoo got hurt. 58 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:09,360 They have been. Mason Plumley, I give the benefit of the doubt because 59 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,120 he came from an injury and then was like, hey, Zoo's out, 60 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:15,800 so you need to be playing it maybe your highest level ever, like to 61 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,759 make up for this. So I don't blame tys Is Tye though, like 62 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,279 I think, I don't know if they've been brutal. I think they've been 63 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,879 what they are which is rough compared to what Zoo was. It's brutal for 64 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,279 the amount of minutes you have to play them without Zoo, right, Like, 65 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:33,759 the plan was never for for these like for Mason to be the starting 66 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,680 center and for for Tye to be a backup to this level. You know, 67 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,279 if Plumbley had knock gone down, I mean, where are we really 68 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:46,639 right now in Zoo's absence? So yeah, I agree, it's it's been 69 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,720 really it's been really difficult. I if you're looking for a light out of 70 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:53,560 the at the end of the tunnel, though, outside of Zoo coming back, 71 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,759 I don't really have one for you right now. When's he coming back? 72 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:01,199 Tell us will when is Zoo coming back? So that is also just 73 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:08,319 to kind of temper people's expectations. I guess Zoo's reevaluated in four weeks from 74 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,519 the injury, so I think Zoo's going to be out a total of six 75 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,160 weeks would be my guess. If you look at how the All Star break 76 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,199 lines up, are we at week two right now or we're like just over 77 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,639 one week in right I think we're just a week I think we're at week 78 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,319 two. Yeah, turning the corner into week two did we And so from 79 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:31,920 this game specific, we're kissing week two U and this game specifically, it's 80 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,959 kind of funny. Mason Plumbley was a plus four with no points in twenty 81 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,800 minutes, which is insane. Yeah, well it was this game. The 82 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,439 defense by the Clippers was bad. Yeah, for this game, we scored 83 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:47,240 seventy seven points at half, which was great, but it was seventy seven 84 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,360 to sixty four. And that's where you see Zoo's loss. Like we had 85 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,000 so many paint touches on offense, but on defense, it was just like 86 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,079 there was nothing to stabilize anybody. Guys were all over the place. It 87 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,399 was rough. It's so funny to me to watch the games like tonight and 88 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:10,040 then against the against the nets, you can see the guys acting as though 89 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Zoo is still back there. So the game plan still seems to be, 90 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:18,439 like, Okay, if you're beat, it's fine. Does Kawhi get a 91 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:21,959 triple double ifsos there tonight? I do not think so. Probably not. 92 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,639 I don't think he gets the words. Someone commented like, well, someone's 93 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:28,000 got a rebound for the Clippers, and I was like, that's actually a 94 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,399 great point. Like Kawhi was the best rebounder of anybody. Are there positives 95 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:38,959 to Zoo being gone? No, Charles Mott, not what I'm saying. 96 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:44,600 Triple double Kawhi mode activated. All right, So let's talk Let's talk PG 97 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:48,720 because PG, and then we'll get to Kawhi's greatness. Mike dang great last 98 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,800 name, uh said, what's with PG tonight? Did he get bench or 99 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:57,360 was he hurt? Really odd passes from him? The bench thing was weird. 100 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,319 It seems like they took him out and then checked on his knee and 101 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,959 then he was right back out there. But this was a rough night. 102 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:09,439 That doesn't mean much for this Clippers like his leg. Yeah, I think 103 00:07:09,439 --> 00:07:14,720 if we've learned anything that a player returning right back out there isn't necessarily a 104 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,600 vote of confidence long term. I feel like Joseph, is this a stupid 105 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,360 idea. Harden was very aggressive to start this game, which was great offensively. 106 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:27,439 It looked like that may be messed with Peach's rhythm a little bit. 107 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:30,240 I think he had what two shots in the first quarter or something like that, 108 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,519 Like he just couldn't find any space. Yeah, I mean, I 109 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:43,600 think Paul is wont to disappear. He he is someone who will float away 110 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,680 as a game if a game just kind of gets away from him. I 111 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:57,079 do think that the Clippers at various times have made efforts to have made efforts 112 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,879 to get Paul going, and it's been great. You know, he gets 113 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,000 going early, but then he disappears late. So it's just I think it's 114 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,480 just Paul. I do kind of wonder though, with the whole like closing 115 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,759 with a mere coffee, you getting a treas shift Terrence coming in and out 116 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:18,639 that there was a year by the way, a shadow minutes restriction or something. 117 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,519 Maybe he's got something nagging and before the Grammy trip they didn't want to 118 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,160 like push him too hard. I wouldn't put that past the Clippers, But 119 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:30,680 I also wouldn't put it past Paul to have no leg below his knee, 120 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:33,919 go play a game, pretend like he's fine, come back into a game, 121 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,399 and then be out, you know, for whatever. So you never 122 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,039 know. Yeah, I guess there's something to keep an eye on during the 123 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,480 road trip. Coffee also did play really really well too, Like It's not 124 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:48,399 like the decision to me was completely baffling. I thought the Powell lineup with 125 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:54,039 Coffee out there was had some great stretches and Coffee played. I thought exceptionally, 126 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:58,960 a mere coffee is playing the perfect A mere coffee is playing championship level 127 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,120 basketball for his role. Yeah, yeah, like he's been and with the 128 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,159 offseason he had just his overall Clippers career. I think am here Coffee is 129 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,320 maybe my favorite story this year for the Clippers. I like this comment from 130 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,039 Miles Johnson. Harden then got super passive in the second half and kind of 131 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:16,679 lost his rhythm. James Harden was on a tear to open this game, 132 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,440 I guess the Lakers. But then I think he's kind of right things. 133 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:26,399 If you watch this game, that third quarter was the most frustrating frustrated I 134 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,799 think I've been watching the Clippers this season. It felt like there was zero 135 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:33,440 paint penetration. It seemed like the only person was get who was getting to 136 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,440 the paint was the only person who can't make layups, which is very problematic 137 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:46,279 for the Clippers. Yes, that can be bad. What did you notice, 138 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:48,759 I'll go ahead, Joe. No, it's just it's the same story 139 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,120 against the Lakers. There's never been a normal game against the Lakers. They 140 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:56,600 always go up big and then they decide, okay, we did our job, 141 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:00,360 and then the Lakers get back into it, and then it's like for 142 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,000 a little bit and yeah, it's it's another roller coast drive like off of 143 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:07,159 I think in this first half the Clippers had more points in the paint in 144 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,320 that first half than of any half so far this season. And then the 145 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,279 defense just was bleeding points to the Lakers. In the second half, it 146 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,559 was defense. There was at one point there was a five on four because 147 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,600 Cam Reddish got hurt and the Clippers lost those two possessions by two points. 148 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,639 They would have lost it bout five after like a really bad PG turnover. 149 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,720 But like that was that was the most brutal thing. I don't know. 150 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:37,720 I'm happy we won, though they Will said it on the pod like this. 151 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:39,639 These the Clippers were ten point favorites for this game, which is like 152 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:46,480 absolutely insane if you actually watch Clippers Lakers anytimes. Yeah, but I'm just 153 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,639 happy they got the win. Cashed, right, Uh did a cash? 154 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:56,279 I don't they Yeah they did, they did. Wow, Will did you 155 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,279 tell your boss to take the under? I did tell it Core take the 156 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,320 under so I might not be on the stream. Good thing, good thing, 157 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,799 I hammered that over. Yeah, Hey, boss, go ahead and 158 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,480 put my next paycheck on that other baby. So let's talk Kawhi. Kahi 159 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,519 had a second career triple double, the quietest triple double uh in the history 160 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:24,399 of the Clippers. I think he was fantastic. Twenty five eleven and ten 161 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,840 plus two steals in a block, plus fifteen in this game. Josepher will 162 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,480 who wants to talk how great Kawhi was this night? A stabilizing presence for 163 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:37,039 a horrific game. From that standpoint, well, I'm just gonna give something 164 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,399 brief because I have to know, Joseph, give us some positivity, trying 165 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,600 to trying to, you know, break down the door so that I come 166 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:50,080 back. I'm going against my wife and my doctor's wishes. He said, 167 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,159 you can't go on any more podcasts. Your ticker, your ticker can It's 168 00:11:54,240 --> 00:12:01,159 bad. Yeah, Kawhi is awesome the whole season in rest. I like 169 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:13,960 it on Kawhi's shoulders. And he has carried the team since. Since that's 170 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,120 true. I did say that he has carried the team since the lineup change, 171 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,159 and I think that it it coincides with the lineup change, but also 172 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:31,960 Kawhi running into shape. That's a cripple double is killing me. A cripple 173 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:37,919 double. Wow, that's that's so funny. He only shot left handed all 174 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:43,000 night. I think that I wish he would have got for I just love 175 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:46,759 watching him play and and like he does things that are that are dumb, 176 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,840 but he's Kawhi and it works, like when he went up against Reeves and 177 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:56,600 like turned around and then split the defenders and then kind of just flung it 178 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,039 at the rim with one hand and then it bound six times to win in 179 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,320 it's just when he's when he's on, the Clippers can win the title. 180 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,879 Yeah, I agree, I would. I would have liked to see the 181 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,840 Clippers take advantage from outside a little bit more when Kawhi was getting those super 182 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,600 aggressive double teams. Yeah that's a good call. Do you have to leave 183 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,720 now, Joseph? I do actually have to thank you so much, Joseph. 184 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:26,240 We'll see you later. But I want to talk about Reeves on Kauhi. 185 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,759 There were some times where I was like, I didn't know Reeves could 186 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,039 maybe a lot COI up like this, So I do we do have to 187 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,679 get a little bit of credit, uh, to Austin Reeves for some of 188 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:39,679 his defense on Kauwhi, but I think Joseph nailed it right like Kawhi. 189 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:43,480 We talked about how Kawhi and PG are averaging, you know, basically the 190 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,320 same points per game. It's like twenty two point eight and twenty two point 191 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:50,080 nine or something, but just looks very different exactly, And that's how the 192 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,799 triple double sneaks up on you. Kawhi was wildly efficient. I think he 193 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:58,120 hit his first eight shots in this game or something like that. He ended 194 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,519 up eleven for sixteen. The lack of foul calls in this game for the 195 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,960 Clippers was insane down low. I don't know what the refs were doing in 196 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,799 this game. It was overall a slow whistle on both sides. Like it, 197 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:13,519 you know, they didn't Neither team really spent a lot of time in 198 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,200 the bonus in this one, but I agree there was. I think that's 199 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,639 what led to some of the issues with the paint penetration in that in the 200 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,960 second half, is like there was a lot of contact there. Not going 201 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,759 to say whether it was like right or wrong, especially, but I do 202 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:33,200 think that it made guys a little bit more tentative to go there. Yeah, 203 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:37,240 I totally agree, and the Clippers defense didn't even really give the refs 204 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:41,200 like a chance to try and draw the line because there was no real defense 205 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:46,279 kind of in the paint in this one. Yeah, I'm still kind of 206 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,200 just trying to I know we won the game, and I know Kawhi was 207 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,480 fantastic. Mike dang, Yeah, go ahead. Well, yeah, I 208 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,159 feel like we got to talk about Norm Powell too, because I thought when 209 00:14:56,159 --> 00:15:01,200 the offense really stalled out there to start the fourth, I mean, how 210 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,559 long was it until we got our second field goal of that quarter? Like 211 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,000 it was it was like a four minute Yeah, and Norm was able to 212 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:16,159 kind of turn things around and get things going. You'd finished with seventeen five 213 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,000 and two, just a great game, fifty seven percent from the floor. 214 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:24,159 Only hit one of his threes, which is really really characteristic, one of 215 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,759 four for Norm. Yeah, and that three came in the fourth. He 216 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:31,720 was one for two in the fourth. He hit his three other shots at 217 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:35,600 the rim. Norm hit a layup. This game was pretty much out of 218 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,440 hand. That was the most like it was like a hook. It was 219 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,399 a half hook like this, and it went real high off the glass on 220 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,759 the right back end. So we really you gotta appreciate Norman Powell. Tonight, 221 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,679 josephry Ward, who was just on here, mentioned that the Clippers might 222 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,679 be trying to trade Norman Powell. I hope that doesn't happen. I do 223 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,120 not think that's happening because they just can't do it. But yeah, this 224 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:02,559 Clippers team, this is a game and I always said this last game. 225 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:04,679 Did they lose this game last year? Did they let what happened in the 226 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:10,879 third quarter seep even more into the fourth? And do they this was this 227 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,919 was a different at a different team win. I liked it that we got 228 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:18,279 the win. Look, I mean it depends like if we get the sort 229 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,200 of like the insane role players step up sort of wins that we came accustomed 230 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,879 to in the year before last season, Like maybe they put it away, 231 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:29,240 maybe they were able to do it. If it is, you know, 232 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:33,679 two one three at the level that we saw last year, no James Harden, 233 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:37,519 that's definitely a loss. Like I don't know, especially with Paul kind 234 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:40,879 of having an off night, that's not a game that they can put away 235 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:45,240 with without that without without an extra guy, yeah, exactly, an extra 236 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,000 guy, and without the contributions we got from everyone on the bench tonight. 237 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:52,440 You know, we talked to Russ and Norman and Amir and stuff like that. 238 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:57,320 Yeah, I don't know what was kind of Yeah, this is just 239 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,320 it's a good way in the Clippers having insane road trip. I'm happy they 240 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,240 got this win. Eleven games. Wait, it's an eleven game road trip. 241 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,720 I thought it was eleven. I think it's seven. If it's eleven, 242 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:15,720 I'm quitting. I don't know what I'm doing. Let's talk the other 243 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:18,519 team, because we do have to talk about the the other side of the 244 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:25,000 ball in this one. Yeah, Anthony Davis twenty six and twelve, damseler 245 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:29,880 Russell twenty seven and ten assists. I think someone put in the chat that 246 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,640 you called. Yeah, we got a comment from Wamie who said, we'll 247 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,079 literally called Damsel going off for no reason. Yeah, let's kind of play 248 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,359 here is his name's been in trade rumors like he he kind of shows up 249 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,119 for Clippers games. It feels like this. I thought this in the third 250 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,240 quarter. I thought this was gonna be Oh, Damsel Russell's going to ruin 251 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:53,839 our night tonight. I appreciate him. He's my high numbers, low impact 252 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,279 king. I think that's I think that's fair. He was minus seven in 253 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:02,640 this game. No, I've loved that about him since, Like when he 254 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,160 went to the nets, we didn't have really an answer. The defense on 255 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,920 Daniel Russell was a little frustrating. We didn't really have an answer for a 256 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,880 d obviously, no real bigs or anything like that. They did their best 257 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,480 to pull them away. And the mid range jumpers we got a couple. 258 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,200 There's children playing basketball on the court by Sorry about that, everyone listening. 259 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,880 But now just the size thing was on full display here. We had some 260 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:37,720 comments to you talking about just like just the size right like this this small 261 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:41,599 ball lineup. How are we feeling about this ramp up in small ball minutes? 262 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,240 Do you think that this will sustain itself? Do you think we're gonna 263 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,799 see this one Zoo's back. No, you think it's You think it's just 264 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,400 the spell for the next It's such a big chunk of time. It's the 265 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,480 only reason I'm wondering. Look, I think there might be stretches for sure, 266 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:59,240 and there are matchups where it could be advantageous, But I think the 267 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:04,359 most numbers aside. The craziest thing about Zoo has changed this year is the 268 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:10,200 level of trust that he has in closing lineups and it just adds, it 269 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:12,839 just adds another layer to what the Clippers can do defensively. And I'm not 270 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,920 saying that it's gonna work in the in the playoffs against every team or in 271 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,119 you know, every night, but I think that that is really significant and 272 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,200 I it just makes the most sense to have him as your defensive anchor out 273 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:32,119 there whenever you possibly can, and with the pickup offensively that you know, 274 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,119 the added value offensively that James Harden adds for zoo uh, it mitigates really 275 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,079 like what what negatives you would have? But to him being on the floor 276 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,319 right like you know that that's the biggest thing is like what does it do 277 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,720 to the offense? Is he getting blown by guys? Which has He's been 278 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,240 passed for a while now, We've seen him in the playoffs even be passed 279 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:56,359 like you know that first you know Warriors series in the Shay years when he 280 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:02,720 looked completely lost out there. So yeah, his growth is I'm excited for 281 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,680 the just just to see what does in the playoffs this year. There is 282 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,880 some news coming out about Paul George's groin injury. Left groin injury from last 283 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,799 month is being managed by the team per Tyleru. This quote below is from 284 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:22,480 La Murray, an excellent reporter and a quick aside while this announcer yells behind 285 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:27,279 me, if you're able to show love to Andrew Griffe or anything like that, 286 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:30,039 give him a shout out on Twitter. Andrew Grive was laid off by 287 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,160 the La Times. It's horrible for journalism, horrible for the Clippers. Be 288 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:37,319 so anyway, shout out Andrew and everyone who works who got laid off for 289 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,839 the time. So it's is brutal, amazing b writer. But Eric we 290 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,720 confused in the comments about Paul George's groin. He said, I didn't realize 291 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,039 PG was making passes with his groin. Maybe he should try them with his 292 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,799 hands. Hey, fair point, Eric, We're not gonna We're not gonna 293 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,880 knock that guidance. But the Paul George groin thing, what's your level of 294 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,319 starting with this? He had a rap on his knee. No one's making 295 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,079 it sound like anything too serious, which I don't think is super surprising. 296 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,400 Scale a one to ten. Where are you at? Well until we get 297 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,000 further news, I mean it's it's kind of a five, like there's some 298 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,160 level of concern, but it's fairly neutral. I just hope it doesn't have 299 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,359 to be exacerbated over these road games. I mean, there were some things 300 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:29,160 tonight, like execution wise, where I mean they were they were subbing Paul 301 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,960 in and out to to manage the injury, of course, but like they 302 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,599 shouldn't have needed him, you know what I mean, they like they they 303 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,799 shouldn't have, Like they shouldn't have had to rely on him as much in 304 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,839 this game in a normal scenario. But you know, like Joseph said, 305 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:47,960 there's no normal scenario between these two teams anytime they meet up. It's very 306 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:51,640 very bizarre. It's odd to it's odd. What things to take away from 307 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,480 it, like Clippers season high in paint points? Like how real is that 308 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:59,319 against like a large team? No Lebron is you know, is that something 309 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,559 that they could exploit against another team? But then they completely you know, 310 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:10,440 it looked completely different in the second half. So I don't know. DJ 311 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,720 Dance is calling a hell of a pickup game behind us. Yeah, So, 312 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:17,440 Paul George, for this road trip, you mentioned the Clippers go it 313 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:21,960 is seven games, not eleven. No worries, the Clippers go Raptors Celtics, 314 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,960 Calves, Wizards, Pistons, heat Hawks, so pretty top heavy to 315 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,480 start. You know, you got new look Raps who we know we're gonna 316 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,240 run us, We're gonna run. You got the Celtics, you got the 317 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,039 Calves. It gets a little easier with that Wizard's pistons. Scratch it there, 318 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,880 But this is I hope. I hope his growings not put too much 319 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,240 of the test. A lot of people are in the chat put the groin 320 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,279 to the test. I don't want them to. A lot of people are 321 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:56,960 saying that this game showed the size issue for the Clippers. The game is 322 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:03,440 not worth this much comment. Chare would you once Sue is back? People 323 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,440 in the chat, does your concern for another big go away? Because I 324 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,000 think games like this, we're gonna have four weeks and know Zoo at least, 325 00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:11,759 I think we're gonna maybe get conditioned to thinking this team is smaller than 326 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:15,200 it is. Well, I'll go to you while people form their thoughts. 327 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,759 Uh in the chat. But when Zoo comes back to you think the Clippers 328 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:26,160 still need another power forwards? Hmmm? I mean it's like one of those 329 00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:34,480 nice to have it just I like Jeremy Mormon's very blunt response, I don't 330 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:38,359 really think it's necessary. I'm feeling really good about this roster. Like I 331 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:44,279 I think, like a little marginal move or something, but I think the 332 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,000 idea of like a more dynamic four. I mean, you're not getting someone 333 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,519 like even like an Aaron Gordon level. I mean, I think someone like 334 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,920 I would love an Aaron Gordon level. I mean you're I mean, I'm 335 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,960 just saying you're definitely not getting that. Yeah, I don't know. I 336 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,039 think like a marginal move makes sense. I think with the way this season 337 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,279 is gone thus far, I'm feeling even less comfortable with giving up the twenty 338 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,720 thirty pick. Oh yeah, I think have to be Oh just I mean, 339 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:19,279 unless Norm is going out, the biggest thing, you have to offer 340 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,319 a value, and if Norm is going out, you need so now you're 341 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:26,440 talking about a four who's a solid defender and also like you yeah, like, 342 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,160 I'm just I'm sorry, I'm not like, I'm just not seeing it 343 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,000 out there. If we could have it, would I love it? Yeah? 344 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:34,880 Of course that'd be great. Yeah I would. Hey, Mike Dang 345 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,920 proposed PJ bones plus fillers for our old buddy John Collins. I don't think 346 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,160 it would work, but I guess I would take that. So if it's 347 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,960 no, if it's no pick, sure. Yeah. Someone also mentioned something 348 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,519 about the minutes like, oh here we go. Uh, Redizi Entertainment says, 349 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:55,640 if flips out of Power Forward, whose minutes are going away? IMO, 350 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:59,920 this team's healthy is best case scenario. I think I'm with diz Entertainment 351 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:03,039 here, Like this team norms play. You go down the roster, find 352 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:07,720 the guy who's playing real minutes, who's not playing well right now? Yeah, 353 00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:10,960 I mean I think kind of. I think if you could get you 354 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,519 know, uh, not even an all star level player, but a wrung 355 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:22,240 below like a legit fourth option, uh, maybe that would bump Terrence out 356 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,400 of the lineup. But I you know, like I said, I don't 357 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,279 know that that's really necessary. If if, what if Terrence's production right now 358 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:33,640 is the single thing that's holding this Clippers team back from like a deep, 359 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,279 a deep playoff run, then we got some issues, man, we got 360 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:41,400 we got some real issues there. Yeah, Chaizong said, I'm not goingly 361 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,240 trying to send out any first round picks with the age of this core. 362 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:47,960 I agree that. Yeah, that's where that's where I'm at and that's that's 363 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,960 gonna be a huge hamper in any any maneuverings that the Clippers can do. 364 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,359 Is like I, you know, it's not like we're playing poorly, like 365 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,359 I, We're not so desperate that we need to give up the twenty thirty 366 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,720 And look, man, twenty thirty is just that's a that's a long time 367 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,599 away. That's a long time away. And even yeah, you could protect, 368 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,519 you can try to protect the hell out of the pick, and you 369 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,480 know, so it's it's less of like a real first rounder. But I 370 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:17,640 don't know how much value that really offers then in terms of the trade value. 371 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,759 So yeah, would it be nice? Yeah? Do I see it 372 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:26,880 as a realistic possibility. Not today January Not today January twenty third, twenty 373 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,720 twenty four. I like Jeremy Mormon's idea trade the twenty thirty pick top twenty 374 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:34,720 nine protected absolutely. I also just a note for the listeners and people watching, 375 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:38,160 it is not small children playing basketball. There are grown men playing basketball 376 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:45,079 right now against children on the court, against children. Miles Johnson says, 377 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,200 uh, you know, uh, we only really have two forwards with five 378 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,720 guards with the current rotation, so we would also like, I mean, 379 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,440 you know, a consolidation move would make sense, but like, what what 380 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:02,400 two guards do you want to part with for a forward? Right? And 381 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,559 it's not gonna be Russ. We're not They're not trading Russell Westbrook for the 382 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,559 locker room. There's no way they're trading Russell Westbrook. It would be mutiny 383 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:15,119 if the Clippers trade. I don't know that it would be mutiny. But 384 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,119 Paul George needs his buddy. And I mean that maybe, but Paul George 385 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,880 needs Russell Westbrook. They didn't sign Pat Patterson. Yeah, but Pat patt 386 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:32,839 was Look what yes in this scenario? Yes? Uh, yeah, this 387 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,960 I don't know. And I I the top eight, in the top nine 388 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:44,480 is so good right now for the Clips. Yes. So someone's saying Boston 389 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,559 and Highland. But Brandon Boston Jr. I'm fine with parting with. I 390 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,359 don't think he has a future for the Clippers. No disrespect to him. 391 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,079 He hasn't cracked the rotation yet. It's just not there. Bones Hiland I 392 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,480 want to keep. Yeah, this is gonna sound nuts, but I know 393 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,000 that he's not even in the rotation right now. I've talked about this a 394 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,839 little bit before. I don't think that means that he is out out with 395 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,279 the age of this team. I think I don't know unless you're going in, 396 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,559 like unless you're going in for the ultimate win now move, which would 397 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,920 be I don't know, like Jeremy Grant or something like I don't really be 398 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:25,400 huge like I unless it's like a really big acquisition, which I mean with 399 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,920 salary cap stuff. Who even knows how that would work out. I don't 400 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440 know. I would prefer a whole on the Highlands, even though he's not 401 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,200 currently in the rotation. Yeah, great teammate too, great locker room guys 402 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,119 so far. Scott Tran says os in PJ. Tucker are the only tradable 403 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,160 pieces I think. I think Jane Tucker is not tradable. He is a 404 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,279 salary filler, but still he still has an extra year. He's not even 405 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:52,319 an expiring so like you have to sweeten the deal to get a team to 406 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,759 take on bad money. About that In terms of sweetening the deal with PJ. 407 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Tucker, that's where you get into terror of like maybe a mirror has 408 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,079 to go out because a mer is overplaying his four million dollar contract and that 409 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:11,079 would suck, or Bones because Bones is at what six or five or something, 410 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,200 So I think, yeah, like that's there were rumors that the Wizards 411 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,079 would maybe take on PJ to buy him out and stuff, but we'd have 412 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:26,000 to take on like Landry Shammitt for the most part. Like I don't know 413 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,720 a name that's been really popular that JJ the Boy brought up is Jrian Phiney 414 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,400 Smith. I would love I would love DFS. You're part of the DFS 415 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,759 army. They are out in full support for getting him on the Clippers. 416 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,119 He's a perfect like, he's a perfect role player, championship kind of level 417 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:45,799 wing that you know, if he if he doesn't have a huge role, 418 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,440 I don't think that that's an issue for him, and he could slot in 419 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,599 pretty well. Damn. So Bones makes two point three million dollars this year 420 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440 and then four next year. So Bones is even hard to trade because it's 421 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,400 just such little money. Chiso again shout out. I don't think we're getting 422 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,599 DFS or anything. I agree one hundred percent. I agree hundred percent. 423 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:11,920 It's going to be a buyers market for a player like that. We got 424 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,079 to get the Eric on here. Yeah, the Kelly Olink talk, you 425 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,200 had a good point about the Terry Rozier trade in relation to the Kelly Olinic 426 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:22,799 trade. Oh yeah, I mean like if if the the cost for if 427 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:27,720 the cost was for Rosier was essentially a first round pick, and not only 428 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,559 were the Hornets willing to give up Rosier, but they would take on bad 429 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:34,519 money. I just don't think. I don't think the Jazz are getting a 430 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:38,599 first round pick unless it's like crazy protections for Kelly Olinic, which I know 431 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,799 has been like sort of the thing floating around. And I'm sure, I'm 432 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,519 sure that's like what what aange wants. I don't think you're gonna get that 433 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,000 age wants a first and like six seconds uh for Kelly Olinok would be my 434 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,559 guess. Somebody asked about the value of our seconds and I would say, 435 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,519 those are sweeteners in a deal. You know, what are the value of 436 00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,680 any seconds? Yeah, no disrespect to the question. All. I generally 437 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:07,240 have no idea. We got four when we traded for Luke Canard Chunk Samson. 438 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:11,680 I would I would argue Chunk Samson goat name a goat name clips and 439 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,799 dip livestream goat as well. He thinks bones Terrence and PJ. Washington plus 440 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160 QUI PG and Harden is a solid core for the next four to five years. 441 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,680 A lot of a lot of Clippers, Frands, WoT PJ Washington too. 442 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200 These are assets. It's not like you can't get anything to them if 443 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,799 it doesn't work out. I think I like this idea. I'm just gonna 444 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,160 say this right now. Yeah, if they open into a dome and they 445 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720 retain all three of of Kawhi, PG and Harden, the idea of flipping 446 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,039 anyone is gone. I'm like, I'm sorry, Like they're gonna ride that 447 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:51,079 into the sunset. And so if if Clippers can't get it done in the 448 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,839 next year or two, I'm sorry, but you need to be prepared for 449 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,920 you know, just thinking about the glory days for a couple of years. 450 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:00,200 Well, we got well at that, we'll have the chip, we'll have 451 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,200 that that championship we're looking at, so that'll be good. Chaizong said that 452 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,599 those seconds around his viable as pg's ability to sling groin passes. I think 453 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,200 that's maybe fair, not zero, but not enough. I think I think 454 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,160 that's fair. Yeah, we talked a little bit too about the Paul George 455 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,359 contract, but I think we're all kind of that's gonna get figured out. 456 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,079 I think they're gonna be able to negotiate down from the max, especially if 457 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:30,960 he's got a groin injury. I'm no fun intended folks. All Right, 458 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,920 we should get out of here. I'm just kidding. Well, we got 459 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:37,519 have like ten fifteen more minutes. Yeah, man, I'm still yeah. 460 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880 This uh, this is a good win. I'm happy we finally out the 461 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,599 win. Not finally, it's been pretty good for the last six years or 462 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,119 so. But that's a frustrating game. I'm bumm. We didn't get to 463 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,799 see kind of lebron plays because I wanted to see both these teams full I 464 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:57,400 mean full strength and whatnot. Still don't feel good about seeing them. Not 465 00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,519 I don't feel like horrible. But Adam our other so again is working. 466 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,359 Listening to Am working on a five to seventy right now, if you want 467 00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,759 to go listen to him. He would be worried about the Lakers in a 468 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,519 first round series, and I think that's fair. It's not really home court 469 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:14,880 advantage for the Clippers. It's a size issue. We know that that other 470 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,880 team shows up more for the playoffs. I would not feel comfortable in a 471 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,319 first round matchup. I think we would win still and be favorites, but 472 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,240 I would not be comfortable about it would be I mean, it would be 473 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,799 an annoying It would be an annoying matchup, especially with how team, like 474 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,000 how historically close these teams have played. Yeah, it wouldn't it wouldn't be 475 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,000 a fun one. It also, like you know, we were talking about 476 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,359 this the other day, like your home court advantage has to mean something, 477 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,160 right, or it's it's not really a truly home court advantage, you know, 478 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,440 like it's it's great that you can be at home and you know, 479 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,519 literally just at home. Yeah, and like from the arena to your house 480 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,680 in thirty minutes or whatever. But if you don't have the crowd, which 481 00:33:55,799 --> 00:34:00,400 this is the only this is the only state him in all of the NBA 482 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,240 where that that could be the case, where like despite being at home, 483 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,679 you're not really you're not really the home team. I do want to give 484 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:14,239 it. We should give a shout out. Two o seven tonight at Staples 485 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,760 was great. Shout out to the Clippers fans were here. It was a 486 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,119 real battle fan wise, but the Clippers fans really showed up. They were 487 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:24,400 awesome for that that Thunder game too. Oh here's an interesting one. Is 488 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Isaiah Stewart obtainable from Detroit? He would be perfect. I don't know if 489 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,000 we need a fourth summer. Aren't they pretty aren't they pretty tired on him? 490 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,199 I know he's like one of the few process that people actually love. 491 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:45,239 I don't know about I think Detroit's ready to trade everybody except for Caide maybe. 492 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,519 Yeah, I don't know what his contract? What's he make? Talking 493 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,880 about this Paul George Groin injury thing? Do we see him? Do we 494 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,800 see him suit up against the Celtics in Boston? Which is the game after 495 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:05,679 they play the Raptors. Ooh ooh, ooh ooh, that's in Sorry, 496 00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:10,360 I'm just pulling up schedule right here. That's in four days. Yeah, 497 00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:15,639 I think he'll play against Boston Raptors. By the way, who we play 498 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,719 on Friday, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Friday have lost their last 499 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,800 three straight. So I don't like that. Had a great position for the 500 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,239 Clippers. I really don't like that. Yeah, should we should we let 501 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,199 Russ play with one shoe on too as prove as outside shot? Yeah? 502 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:38,039 You no reason not to. Yeah, let's keep Rus comfortable. Anything else 503 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:43,480 you want to get down someone saying Grandpa Lebron very funny? Was he in 504 00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,039 the building the night? I didn't see him? BEEFS two is making five 505 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:52,400 point two mill? Do we have anyone young and good enough to give the 506 00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,679 like? I? This is this Detroit want? Did they want players? 507 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,800 Do they just want picks? They've been so good at drafting. I don't 508 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,559 know they wouldn't want You know who encapsulates Detroit basketball spirit to a T PJ. 509 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,719 Tucker? He would be a great culture piece for them. Let's go 510 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,360 ahead and trade with He could turn that thing around instantly. Oh, here 511 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,239 we go. You need his event. Gregarious One says, would we announce 512 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,320 a PG extension before making a trade? Oh? I don't know if they 513 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,480 would, but that is something interesting to look at for Clippers fans. That's 514 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,400 a great take, Gregarious One, keep an eye on that. Let's keep 515 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,880 an eye if they Because Lawrence Francas said, what we're you know, he's 516 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,039 gonna do his due diligence, which is kind of what he says every single 517 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,760 time. I don't know if they'd announce it. I don't know if they'd 518 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,400 make a trade before signing PG. I just think it's I like the question 519 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,400 a lot. I like the question. I don't think those two things are 520 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,760 related. Interesting, Like, I don't think I don't think the trade market 521 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,320 and pg's extension are the trades that the Clippers would make us a huge Yeah, 522 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,039 it doesn't matter for this year, right, And that's what the Clippers 523 00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,639 need to be focused on, need to be focused on this year because chances 524 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,920 are more likely than not, there's you're not getting this many games out of 525 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,840 quiet Paul George again, and I'm I'm sorry, but you're probably not getting 526 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,360 this many the percentage that they've played that they've been available this year, you 527 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480 know, not to mention that you you don't even have Harden locked up for 528 00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,719 sure next season. It needs to be about this year. So I don't 529 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239 think any trade factors in at all to what Paul George's extension is going to 530 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,039 be. I really think they're kicking the can down the road, even on 531 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,840 on what it's going to look like contract wise, if they are able to 532 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,519 retain their big three. And you know, Kawhi was the first Domino to 533 00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,840 fall and what and you know, we were lucky to have him take less 534 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:45,960 than what he you know, theoretically could have gotten. But I I expect 535 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:51,000 the Clippers to hold pretty firm in their idea of not of not expending max 536 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,000 money. Yeah. I think that's and not because it's like, yeah, 537 00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,800 not because Paul George isn't worth max money, but it's just not in the 538 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,880 car. It's like, I don't know, I just don't think that can 539 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,280 work financially to keep a competitive team together. That's so we got a couple 540 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880 of questions. Youre x mongo project, how likely is it that we're making 541 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,960 a trade this season? Not as likely as last year, earlier before that, 542 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,760 but not. It would be shocked if there wasn't something, a Margins 543 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,960 move, even just getting PJ. Tucker off the roster for somebody who could 544 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,159 come in and eat up five fowels, you know what I mean, Like 545 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,960 I would be kind of shocked. Yeah, I would be kind of surprised 546 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,920 if there was nothing. Do I think that it's going to be another home 547 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,719 run trade? Not not today, not today. On January twenty third, 548 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,800 I think that we've done the big We've already done the biggest mid season trade 549 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,599 of the season for the Clippers, and it just happened to happen much earlier, 550 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:51,280 which is actually a benefit. So that's a good call. Great question 551 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,639 here from David Naggi. Which team currently in the top eight of the West 552 00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:59,400 do you think would be the easiest first round matchup? For those of you 553 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,920 wondering, the Clippers are sitting at fourth, their current matchups for the top 554 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,039 eight would be between the Pels, Sons, Kings, and Mavericks. Fuck 555 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:15,920 man, I don't like any of those, David, I guess I would 556 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:24,920 go Kings if we're fully healthy. I'm going Kings because our size is better 557 00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:30,280 than theirs. And how are you even getting that matchup in the first round? 558 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719 They're vaulting into five. I don't know. Yeah, sure, I 559 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,199 don't see it. Man, all right, So what's your answer? Which 560 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,400 are the teams currently in the top eight? Who would you think is his 561 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,840 first roun matchup? This is gonna sound crazy, but for me it's I 562 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,239 think it's the Timberwolves. Really, I think it's the Timberwolves. I don't 563 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,199 love it as a first round matchup, but if that's the second round matchup, 564 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:58,360 I would say the Clippers are are definitely making another Western Conference final appearance, 565 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,719 but this is first round matchup. I'm just saying I would I like 566 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,960 it. In the first round matchup, love it in the second round. 567 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,719 I don't know how that happens in the first round. Your scenario sells more 568 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,599 improbable than mine. But I'm going Kings. A couple other people said, 569 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,639 Kings two. The twos offense just isn't for real and they still have like 570 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:22,840 despite you having vets on the team that like, despite Carl for so long, 571 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,960 Like, it's just I'm serious, it's not a serious team. Uh 572 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,360 J and CTN Junction says, give me that, Dallas smoke. I don't 573 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,519 know how they're ready for that. No, I love it. I love 574 00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,000 it. That would be some good basketball. My heart would explode, but 575 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:43,519 it would be some good basketball. Give us, give us all your guards. 576 00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:46,719 You got a team that that completely revolves around guards. Let's go, 577 00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:50,840 We'll let's do it. Let's be the big team. That's what would be 578 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,880 nice. We would be the big team against the Kings in the maps. 579 00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:58,360 Okay, So Ben is saying, I have no faith in the Pells, 580 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,960 can't see them winning for I weirdly really do not want to play them in 581 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000 the first round. I don't want to. Well, historically, it's historically 582 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,960 that the Pelicans Clippers matchup has not been very favorable for their big like without 583 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,159 Zion healthy even so, and they're big like it's it's a it's a real 584 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,239 problem x Bongo projects or Jeremy Moore and says I can't with Dallas anymore. 585 00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:22,960 Well, so the question was I would I don't want to play the Lakers 586 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,639 in the in the first round at all. Well, you know it's because 587 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,480 Luke always spanks the Clippers. You know we all know that. Sure, 588 00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:35,039 yeah, historically those individual games. Anything else you want to touch on before 589 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:37,159 we head out. I'm feeling so good after this win. I ain't to 590 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,320 get a hot dog, hot dog, hot dog yeah from the people outside. 591 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,559 Yeah, all right, I think we're about to head out. Thank 592 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,159 you to everyone for hanging out on the stream. Oh wait, as this 593 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,960 is not possible. Uh. There was the talk about HERM Jones being traded, 594 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,400 which Adam Oslin does not believe, which I think is so funny. 595 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,159 But yeah, HERD Jones would be a Clippers film. I love HERB Jones' 596 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,239 game, but he would rip our hearts out. JJ the boy saying victory, 597 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,960 Glizzie, That's exactly what I'm wanna go do. It's gonna be bacon 598 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,440 wrapped with onions and peppers. Everyone knows what's happening right now. I wanna 599 00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,119 have hartburd later. It's been great. Adam Oslyn usually sends us out with 600 00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,800 something positive, but I'm gonna put that on will Updyke. Let's get something 601 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,679 positive before the seven game road trip. Look, it was a nasty it 602 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,239 was a nasty win, but at the end of the day, it's still 603 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,119 a win. I'm expecting the Clippers to not look at their peak through some 604 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,719 of this road game, but iron shipe sharpens iron baby, and they're gonna 605 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,320 be all the better for it when they return home in February. Let's go 606 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,480 clips. Hope to see y'all at the next game. Hell yeah, I 607 00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,519 hope to see still feel like to hop on the postgame stream let us know. 608 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,239 Yeah, it's a good time. Congrats to Kawhi, PG and Harden 609 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,679 for being in the US Olympic player pool. We're gonna be back with a 610 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,639 full pod with Adam tomorrow or Thursday, we don't really know. Reviews and 611 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:00,480 subscribes always help. Thank y'all so much on the chat. Thank you so 612 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:04,840 much for watching this later h and as always, let's go climps,