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You're listening to kf I am sixty
on demand. Michelle, Welcome to the

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Jesus Christ Show. Did you say, Michelle? I sure did? How

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can I help you? Michelle?
Okay, I'm really nervous and I don't

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know why. Oh no, that's
okay. I'm afraid I'm not going to

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get my question across right. And
I've been trying to get the my thoughts

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in order well enough to call for
a month. And what's going on.

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I have absolutely no doubt, no
reservation, no no issue with my unending,

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unquestionable love for you or you for
me. Good start, But I'm

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confused about prayer. I've heard a
hundred things. I really try hard to

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live with compassion, empathy, acceptance, service, really trying to live the

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word, and I think I'm doing
a pretty good job with it. My

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confusion comes in about I heard thy
will be done and not to pray for

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yourself unless others will be health.
No, well, it so you never

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pray for anything for yourself? For
strength? Oh yeah, well yeah,

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well if you? If if strength
is okay, then what about health?

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And if health is okay, what
about wealth? And if wealth is okay?

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I don't understand and I've heard people
teach that, so I don't put

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that on you. But it's okay
to pray for things. The Prayer of

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Jabez was a book that came out
years ago that was quite popular and really

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had its roots in in scripture,
of course, about a prayer where Jabez

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just asked for more, give me
more land, give me more things.

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You know the way it was perceived. But trust me that I'm going to

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do good things with it. But
I need it, you know. So

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there's nothing wrong with making prayer requests
for yourself. But go ahead, okay.

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Well that takes a tremendous load off
of my mind. I just you

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know, you hear that I will
be done. How do I know that

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when I'm asking for things and truly
with a good intent, with a complete

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intent. It's a huge thing that
I'm asking for, um, but it

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is a thing that would give me
gratisfaction in helping other people. But it's

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enormous and I have no idea how
it can happen. But I have faith

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that you do. But how do
I know if you will? Okay?

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So this is the fun part.
And by the way, First Chronicles,

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chapter four is where you can read
about Jabez, and I encourage you to

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do that to see it gives you
the example there. But this is where

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people get confused big time about prayer, because you're right. The people assume

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prayer is man's way of telling God
what man wants and needs, and it's

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not. Prayer is God's way of
teaching man what God wants. So this

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is how it works. And the
analogy that we give on the show and

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we talk about is a child in
the grocery cart in every single grocery store

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on the planet, that is pointing
out want that. I want that,

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I want that, I want that, I want that. So you'd think

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that that scenario is about the child
telling the parent what they want. Put

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that in the grocery cart, put
I want that for cereal, I want

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that for dinner. And that's the
appearance of it. The reality is it's

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a way for the parent to teach
the child what they should be wanting.

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No, honey, this cereal is
better for you, No honey, this

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dinner is better for you. So
although it's engaged or initiated by the child,

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the actual function, when done properly, is the opportunity for the parent,

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the older, smarter, wiser,
hopefully one in the equation to look

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towards the child and say, no, honey, this is what you need,

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not what you want. So prayer. Similarly, you, as the

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child of God, reaches out and
say, Abba, Father, I want

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X, Y and Z, and
your Father in heaven says, I think

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this is better for you, or
I think this is best or you're right

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on. But it's about God's will, not your will. And everybody assumes

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like if I pray hard enough,
or I do it on one foot,

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or I put my hands really tight
together so it makes an antenna that's going

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to reach God. Or I do
it in a prayer closet, or I

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do it at the end of the
bed, or I do it with tears,

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or I use big words, or
I say things that sound really biblical

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like, or I do it with
a group of people, or I do

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it doing the you know, the
old English from the King James version.

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Then it's then God's gonna hear and
go, oh my gosh, how could

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I say no to that. That's
not how it works. It's not what

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it's about. It's about you.
Learning's familiar. These things have actually gone

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through my hands. Of course,
they go through everyone's head. It's like,

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are you doing it wrong? Is
I do any to put rabbity ears

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on the house or get a new
antenna or what is it now? Having

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said that, there, if there's
a lot of sin in someone's life in

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the sense that they're in a state
of rebellion and really rebelling against God,

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then for lack of a better term, it's hard to get a good signal.

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And that's not because you know,
God is you know, sticking his

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fingers in his ears, going la
la, la, la la, I'm

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not listening when when somebody's sinning.
It's that people have a harder time connecting

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with the Father when they're so disconnected. It's almost like, um, when

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you know, you loan money to
a friend and they haven't paid you back,

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and now the time has kind of
gone on a little too long,

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and when they come across the opportunity
to see you, they just kind of

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want to get out of the room
because now they just are embarrassed to by

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the whole thing. And that's how
people get with God. They sin,

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and then they kind of don't want
to be around God anymore, and they're

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constantly looking for excuses not to be
around God. But God is different the

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friend who loans you money and just
wants to be with you. So people

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get different, and so those things
do modify how people pray or the intent

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of their heart and things like that. But otherwise God is listening at all

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times to connect with you and to
impart and show and make obvious his will,

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because his will is the proper path. And the more the closer your

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life has lived towards God's will,
the more productive it is towards God's goal.

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Well, can I ask you one
more thing? Of course I have

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heard it said in church a month
ago or so that sometimes you have to

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do the ridiculous for God to do
the miraculous. Now I understand a leap

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of faith, I understand, but
one is a ridiculous just a ridiculous or

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is that something I will won't know
until until I know? Well? God,

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God bless church and the people in
it. But sometimes I think they're

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worried about something rhyming more than they
are being biblically sound. Yes, Scripture

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is very clear that you have to
be willing to die to self to get

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things done. It has to not
be about you, And in that sense

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that statement is absolutely correct. There
are things that you have that will make

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you feel uncomfortable. But I guarantee
you that if you walked in with a

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funny hat, barefoot in a weird
coat and said I'm ready for the miracle,

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that pastor or whoever said it so
well, what I meant was,

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so it's not just about that,
but it's dying to oneself or being a

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living sacrifice. I says, it
says in scripture is something that is day

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to day, and I think you
know. We talked to a young man

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one time who was talking about his
relationship with his parents, and I asked

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him, I said, you feel
passionate about your parents and you love them

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and he said, of course I
do. And I said you would even

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Heaven forbid, but you would even
die for them to protect them? And

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he said, of course I would. I said, would you do the

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dishes every day and rake the leaves? And people don't understand that it's really

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the mundane that gets it done,
not the extravagant. So yes, maybe

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there are times where you have to
be ridiculous or whatever, but really what

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it's about is being consistent and the
way you would show your love towards a

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parent is not well, a gosh, Heaven forbid, if someone comes in

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here, I'm going to die for
you. It's you know what, I'm

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going to live for you. I'm
going to do things daily to glorify you

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and to show you my love for
you. And that means rip the leaves

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and do the dishes, and clean
my room and you know, speak to

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you properly and things like that.
And I think that is more glorious to

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God than the Gosh. You see
these people around Easter time that are nailing

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themselves to cross as physically and and
God is shaking his head, going,

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how does that help anyone? You
know? So, so I think there's

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balancing. It's acute statement. I
get the spirit in which it's intended is

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probably the thing to focus on.
But really it's about not being so worried

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about yourself and letting God do what
He's going to do. Absolutely and you

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can get there by the day to
day and not just doing some weird things

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standing on your foot. But you
should be ready and willing and able to

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do that if God said to do
it, because unfortunately, humility comes from

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humiliation. Well I'm okay with that. Yeah, then I think you're in

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a good place, my friend.
I think you are going to be just

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fine. Thank you so much.
I'm so glad I got the courage up

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to call. That wasn't that at
all. I had a good time.

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No, I appreciate it as well. Thank you for taking the time and

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thank you for listening. Prayer is
one of those things that it's easy to

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get caught up in and wondering what's
going on. And I love prayer questions

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because they're when you don't take the
whole process for granted. It shows that

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you're thinking through it, that your
faith is something that's growing and not just

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well, I was told that this
is what you do, and I'm going

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to do it. No one has
prayer classes or anything like that. I

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mean maybe there's a church somewhere that
tries to, but it's it's communication the

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whole thing. If you're new to
any of this, it's about relationships,

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it really is. The entirety of
scripture is about relationships. So if you

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go throughout scriptures from the beginning in
Genesis all the way to the end,

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it's about relationships. And the ten
Commandments themselves, you can almost split them

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in half. Are going to be
half dealing with man's relationship with mankind.

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So humans interacting with each other,
and the other half is mankind's relationship with

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God. Because that's the focus.
It's being able to get these relationships down.

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And prayer is although unique, is
the way you communicate with God.

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It's that time of focus because God's
not sitting in front of you like someone

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else in your locking eyes and connecting
in a way that you are used to

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and designed to in a day to
day setting is something different. Now now

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you're you're you're connecting with God in
a totally different way. And yeah,

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it takes time. It takes time
to understand, to feel comfortable and to

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feel that it is something that is
valuable and that you can actually learn from.

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Gary, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Yes, did you hear

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me? I sure can, Garry? How can I help you? Yeah?

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I had a question. I had
a family member that you gotta get

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up on that phone. Gary,
you got to get up on that phone

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because I'm starting to lose you.
Okay, is that better much? Okay?

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Okay, go ahead. I had
a family member that passed away and

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he lived like the devil his whole
life and hated the things of God and

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religion and all that. But on
his death bed he gave his heart to

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the Lord and died maybe two hours
later. And I'm just wondering, does

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he go to the same place in
heaven that somebody that served the Lord their

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whole life and worked hard to crucify
their flesh or you know, really do

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the things that Jesus wants them to
do. Is he going to go to

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the same place as I'm going to
go or somebody that serve the Lord his

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whole life? Oh boy, and
that they are Is that really fair?

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It's not fair. Well, it
depends on what you think is fair and

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how you think somebody's being purified.
If somebody looks for love for sixty years

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and finally finds it and somebody finds
love in three months, is their difference

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in the love? Absolutely not.
Love is love. Love is about connecting

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and becoming one and all of those
things. So you can make all the

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rules you want down here, but
you didn't write the Bible. The rules

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of scripture are very simple. It's
not about you. It's not about those

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things. It's about whenever you whenever
you come to the notion. Here's what

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the entirety of it is about acceptance
or rejection. That's how you're judged.

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And if you accept it early the
knowledge you have, any of that knowledge

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you're accountable for and once you have
that knowledge, you're accountable to accept it.

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If you accept it, then there's
rules that you want to live by

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that are part of that acceptance.
If you reject it, you're accountable for

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the rejection. It's not a matter
of time because God is not living in

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this time continuum. There's no God's
not tapping his finger waiting for somebody to

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believe or not to believe. They
either have or haven't to God. So

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the time continuum is something you live
in. So you're saying, Gosh,

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you know I've been busting my hump
for all this time because you're making it

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about you, and God's saying no, it's about the acceptance and the purity

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of the person's heart in the moment
they accept. If it's just words,

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no, that it didn't mean anything. You can just say words before you

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die and it doesn't mean anything,
but yes, in the eleventh hour,

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somebody can find God. The problem
with that is if people wait till the

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eleventh hour, sometimes they die at
ten thirty. And if you are,

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if you have the knowledge, you're
accountable to it, and you're accountable to

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receive it. And that may have
been how long it took, so you

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can look at it as you were
running the race and he wasn't, but

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that's not true. Both were running
the race. You just understand the power

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of the finish line long before he
did. But you're both running the race,

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and you're both accountable. Now.
Scripture is doesn't speak about different heavens

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for people, and second Corinthians twelve
two. A lot of people get that

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confused because it talks about being caught
up into the third heaven, and some

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people go, well, there's a
third heaven and there's going to be different

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levels of where people go, and
that's not the case. The third heaven

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or any reference to multiple heavens like
that, is referring to three different looks

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at One is the sky that you
see right now. You look out and

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you see blue sky, that's one
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when you see the stars, that's
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is actually the dwelling place of God. So in scripture you'll hear these these

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terms as as people hear them.
Sometimes they go, ah, the three

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heavens and you're going to get a
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That's not the case. It is
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and then God's domicile. But some
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Divine Comedy talks about all these different
levels, and people get confused. Having

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said that there are different rewards,
they're not specified in scripture, but there

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is reference that there will be different
different works value differently in scripture, so

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there is some sort of rewards system
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the ultimate reward of being in the
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is the same. That there are
different references in scripture to certain rewards that

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might be different, but it doesn't
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say to whom receives them. So
that may be the answer that you're looking

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for there. But as far as
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It's in Christianity, wherever you start
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So if you start running ten years
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ten minutes ago, be running.
It's it's not the same meritocracy that you

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would look here on earth where you
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of time they were doing something or
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it. And the key is if
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or you stopped doing wrong ten years
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and the important thing is to never
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of time that you've been doing it. Okay, well that makes a lot

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of sense, I hope. So
that's my job. I take that information

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and sit on it a little bit. But you can read Second Corinthians twelve

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two was the reference to the different
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you. And then two more verses
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might be of help as well.
I know it's very easy to get caught

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up in that concept of good,
But when that concept of good becomes better

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than, becomes that concept of I'm
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Y and Z, that's not fair. You're judged by what you can't.

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Two people can't be judged the same
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sense. Their experience is different,
their pressures are different, their insights are

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different. Their life experience is different. The whole concept of you know,

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being in someone someone else's shoes,
that's different. You're going to that means

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to experience their life experience. There
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has their own luggage, luggage and
their own weight, and they all carry

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it. And I know that the
way life is designed, you're always going

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to see your weight as the heaviest
weight there is and the most different goal

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to carry. And that's normal but
not necessarily true. And if you were

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to experience somebody else's walk, even
if it seemed like they were rejecting God

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throughout the entirety of their life,
then on their deathbed they received God.

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There might have been circumstances and pain
and insight that they never shared. You

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know, there's there are Christians that
aren't before they die except Christ. But

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their life was filled with frustration about
about the church. There are people,

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countless people that tell me of the
way they were treated when they were younger

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in a church environment. How are
they gonna receive properly? How is somebody

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who's been mistreated by the church,
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church. The trust being broken by
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or whatever it might be, at
any part of their life. But let's

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say it started young, and then
they rebel against not God but the Church,

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thinking they're one and the same and
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Better, don't have clarity until something
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veil between the physical and the spiritual
get thinner, they maybe see clearer or

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they're able to accept or to see
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against it, to rebel with hubris
we've got breaks that down and makes a

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pride simple pride, and then breaks
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in those points and at that time
the scales, as Scripture often refers to

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them, the scales fall from the
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open to receive. I must tell
you it is. It should be a

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point of rejoicing, no matter when
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arms to Abba, the Father of
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How could you not rejoice in that
as a believer. Regardless of the time,

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The important thing is that they received. The important thing is that it

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is honest and that it comes from
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knows. So the cynical world can
roll their eyes and say, sure,

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you're on your deathbed, or you're
in prison, or you're whatever wife left

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you, husband left you, life
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But if it's real, if it
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will know, and in that place
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It's not about your qualifications, it's
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know. The world is very much
about that right now, and it's a

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super easy to get sucked into.
There's a strange, strange Western vibe going

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on where people are packing their artillery, whether it's an actual gun, whether

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it's their fists and knife, their
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the world and they feel like they
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disconnect from one another, and there's
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that it's all about that individual,
and it can't be. The system

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doesn't work that way until it becomes
we we all of us, and you

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start focusing on the units, it
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the equation. It can't just be
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breaks down. It's no longer a
community, it's no longer a society,

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it's no longer humanity. It's you
against the world, and that's not the

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way it works. It's about incorporating. Work plays a part of that.

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Getting along with others, seeing how
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them, and connecting with them is
imperative. Having a partner in life outside

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of work is important. Connecting with
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these things are to teach you,
to show you the power of community,

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because that is what you are.
That's what you're hoping for in heaven.

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Everybody thinks heaven is going to be
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that's that's all it is about,
and it will be a powerful thing.

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But it's about coming together as one
again in the arms of the Almighty maker.

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Frank, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Yes, good morning,

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Hi there, Can you speak up
just a little bit? Yes? Does

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Jesus week Yes. As a matter
of fact, that's the the shortest verse

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in the entire entirety of scripture is
John eleven thirty five. That simply says,

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Jesus wept. Oh. It's the
shortest verse you'll find in scripture,

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and you have to understand that,
as one god, one hundred percent man,

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that those feelings or certain emotions are
going to be felt. That's how

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I could be tempted, at least
technically in the desert by the enemy,

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and that the pain that I felt
was real. A lot of people go,

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well, what was taking place on
the cross? And if if he

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knew he wasn't going to die technically
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to my response as well, the
reason I felt those things is because I

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was a man, and taking on
the sins of the world was different for

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me than it was The pain was
different from me than what another man or

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what the thieves on either side of
me were feeling. Because I was sinless,

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there was no need imagine being in
jail is horrible. Being incarcerated as

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horrible for something that you did.
Imagine being in jail for life for something

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you didn't do. Now you compound
that under the circumstance into an understanding that

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surpasses anything you can imagine, and
it shows that the pain was something unique,

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something that only I could feel.
And there were many situations. There

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were times where I was lonely as
well were times that I wanted those with

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me to come and pray, and
they did not could not. Their bodies

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were exhausted, fatigued, and they
just couldn't. But simply, the tiniest

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verse there in jail on eleven thirty
five is Jesus Wept k f I AM

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