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Great Detectives dot net. Well, now it is time for this week's episode
of Dragnet. The original aired eight September the twenty fourth, nineteen forty nine,
and the title is The Brickbats Slayer. Here's another in NBC's great parade
of new shows. Ladies and Gentlemen, The story you are about to hear
is true, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent. NBC
brings you dragnet. You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a homicide. A
mad killer is loose in the city. In every instance, he leaves the
murder weapon behind. There are no fingerprints, no clues to the killer's identity.
Your job get him a time. Drag Net that documented drama of an
actual crime, investigated and solved by the men who unrelentingly stand watch on the
security of your home, your family, and your life. For the next
thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel
step by step on the side of the law through an actual case, from
official police files, from beginning to end, from prime to punishment. Dragnet
is the story if your police force in action. It was Tuesday, June
third, was warm in Los Angeles. We were working the day watch out
a homicide. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is at backstrand, Chief
of Detectives. My name is Friday. I was off duty, reporting back
in on an emergency call. Was three fifty seven am. When I got
to the basement of the city Hall the car pool, let's go, Friday,
sorry to call you back in. Couldn't be helped, all right,
Ben okaysgiv what's up in double murder? Quinn, I don't know. I
found out about it forty minutes ago. Got any ideas roughly? Samemo was
that sixty four to thirteen? Or which you giver? No? Sixty four
to thirty? What do you mean the same mo? I'm the same guy,
break back killer? How many does this make counting to night four?
We got anything at all? Mum, it's much fingerpins. We can't even
classify him. Sounds like a smart operator. We got to get him.
We have to shake down the city from one end to the other. Big
job, togill her big killer. Uh. At four twenty six am we
put up in front of sixty four thirty Norowitch Drive, a small group of
bungalow apartments facing on an oval shaped garden court. Two uniformed officers were stationed
at the door to the apartment. Hi, Chief, I had Fellas we
went inside, Wellberg from Thomas side was waiting for us. This way in
here, Well there they are, Yeah, mother, daughter, Yeah,
on the floor beside the bend. Yeah, a red brick MS afters.
We know how you must feel about all this, but would you please try
to answer a few more questions for it. Yes, all right, poor
Markers, mss hafters. How long did you know missus Diaz and her daughter?
Nine years? It's November they moved next door. I remember it so
well. We got along right from the stuff. And as far as you
know, the only close friends mother and daughter had live right here in the
apartment court. Yes, Margaret was a pretty girl, but she was no
chaser, no boyfriends, very close to her mother, the two of them
very close. Did they keep any amount of valuables in the apartment, money,
jewelry, things like that. No, Missus Dias and Margaret didn't have
much, you know, very modest, didn't come. They both worked,
and you can think of no good reasons. No, no, poor Margaret.
Yes, would you show him his halters back to our apartment? Sure,
Sar, thank him as halfing. We appreciate it. You well,
Joe, let's check with Ed. He's back in the bedroom. You get
anything from the neighbors, the usual Ed, No jealous boyfriends, ex husbands,
nothing like that. Boys find any evidence yet, Skaber, I'm still
working on it. He got any theories and we know the killings were all
done by the same guy, cuts the same pattern out of the window screen,
cuts the same pattern with a glass cutter out of the window, reaches
in and flips the larks. All right, where's that lays? And before
he gets inside he makes sure there are only women in the house. That
means he probably watches the house for a few days. Once he gets inside.
He wants only one thing to kill. He's never taken any valuables as
far as we can tell, He's never searched for any What kind of a
man and works like that? I think the guy's killed crazy, hey fellas,
Yes, Donna, here's a break. Two fair prints, one thumb,
one forefinger. What'd you get? Pete only got nine points? Not
enough to go into court, but enough to make him. We'll know him
when we get him. Yeah, found the prints on the lens of the
old lady's eyeglasses. Probably knock him off the night table when he went after
him, and when he was done and put him back on the table.
Yeah, had blood on his hands. He Yeah, that's funny, isn't
it. Why would he go to the trouble of picking up the woman's glasses
after he killed her. We'll ask him when we find him. Hi,
ben Joe might have something for him. We can usually hold it. Yeah,
crime lamb joan, Yeah, yeah, all right, I'll tell him
right ed backstrand. If you're through checking the victims clothes by eight o'clock,
you can knock off asleep until noon. What if we're not, take it
up with the chaplain. Here's what I wanted to show you over here.
A couple of casts bare foot print that's right, goes from the deer's place.
Found them outside the dining room window in the flower bed. Take a
look, good cast size nine ten Uh missing toe there, huh left foot
first toe, that's lucky. One of the guy took his shoes off before
he went in that house. That's the way it looks. You leave any
other princely three with his shoes on? Here? They are here? Yeah,
how would you say the guy has built lee? Oh? From the
impression, pretty heavy man. There's no full length of stride. Or I
might give you an idea of his height. How about them bricksley here?
They are all trails use this one in the first murder, this one in
the second, this one last night. Leaves him around like calling cards,
and there's no way to check him. You'll never get a fingerprint. Off
a common red brick like this pin surface is too rough. Well, I
got an idea of his weight. You know that the first toes missing from
his left foot. That's something one we had yesterday. We can check that
mission towing the amputation file. Joe. Yeah, well we better get back,
Pete. Ought to have those prints ready too, Thanks a lot late.
Okay, fellas say they post the bodies yet, Yeah, they're doing
it now, same as the first two. The brain concussion hemorrhings. They
didn't have a chance. Hold it a minute, time left, Jones,
Sure, just a minute. Either one of your fellas, I'll get it.
Joe, Oh yeah, well yeah, that would be right over.
They gotta make on his two fingers frinks, okay, Joe, single print
file made him on the index finger. Let me see, Pete. Uh
take a look then. Yeah, doesn't look like a killer, does he,
Joe. Kind of nice looking, that's right, Pete. They said
the same thing about John Dillinger. The name at the top of the makesheet
read Carlos Richard Monterey, male, Caucasian, age nineteen, height five feet
eleven inches, eight hundred and sixty five pounds, dark brown haired, dark
brown eyes. Last known address sixteen sixty three Naples Street, Los Angeles.
Previous arrests one auto theft, February eighth, nineteen thirty six. That was
all then, and I have been expecting more. The information on the Mama
sheet from Monterey was thirteen years old. So was the picture, So was
the description, so was the address. In thirteen years. A man can
change in a thousand ways. So can his habits, his appearances, address
in thirteen years. Everything can change except two things, a man's fingerprints and
the physical deformitie I seen too on the left foot, Carlos Richard Monterey.
Here there is Joe sixteen sixty three names. Yes, come on, somebody's
coming. Yes? What is it for police officers? We'd like to ask
you a few questions. Oh yes, would you like to come in?
Thank you, ma'am? Yes, would you mind telling us your name?
Monterday? Today? What is it you want? You're married? Yes?
My husband is Francisco mon Today. Would you explain how you are here?
We thought you might be able to help us. We're looking for a man
named Carlos Monterey. Nice, I don't understand you. We're looking for him
man. We'd like to talk to him. You know where he is.
Yes, Carlos is dead. Seven years ago. He's dead. My husband
told me. Does your husband know Carlos or did he know him? He
was his brother? What about your husband's parents, Miss Monaee? Where they
they're both dead sometime? Now have you ever met Carlos? No? Never,
I've only heard of him. What have you heard of him? Ms?
Monrae, do not ask me? This is important, very important.
Francisco wouldn't like it if I told you it's important as many believe it.
Carlus, he's sick, he's mind wa eight years. Francisco has not seen
him, not heard from him. He thinks he's dead, but he only
thinks so, Miss Monaey. No one has told him his brother's dad.
He just thinks so. What else he did to think? Where's your husband?
Now? What his work? Miss Dorr? Never stet no mean grocery?
Monte God wrote grocery. Hey, it's you change, Thank you missus
myers. Now look, officers, you know how it is. You don't
like to let these things get out. That's why I trust you. You
can trust us, mister Monterey. We just want to check on a few
things. Oh fine, always glad to help out if I can. Can
you tell us if your brother was ever in a mental institution in his life?
Oh? I know there was nothing wrong. Nineteen twenty three, got
a little bad, Simon. Dad had to put him away for a while,
just till he calmed down. I remember the day. Sometimes, dumb
stupid kid, what he know, standing there by himself in the train,
crying in the public nursey stupid way. He cried, what do you do?
I cried too. I was only ten subject I saw him go.
He was alone. Later on, mister money, your brother was released from
the state institution. Yeah, he was sixteen, and he started running around,
playing tough, carried it gun, live by himself. He never came
around. He dropped from sight about nineteen thirty eight. You haven't heard from
him since. Nothing, never seen him. Do you know of anybody who
might have seen him. There was a girly head, Anita something on Soteo
Street, Anita Martin. Yeah, that's it, Soteo Street. Maybe she's
seen it. Ask her, maybe she's seen it. Carlos Carlos Maderee and
not in a year less march she was in When I was working at the
Peacock Donald South Maine. He came in, we talked for a while.
That was all. And you haven't seen Carlos for the past two months or
so, I tell you, no, has he readen two years? He
phoned once. Three weeks ago he phoned here. You left a message with
my girlfriend, but he didn't call back again. Now that's it. That's
all I know. Thank you, Miss Martin. Here's our card. If
he does call on, you'll let us know. Yeah, I'll let you
know. You like Carlos? Is that it? An like him? No?
I didn't like him. He was funny. I thought he was nice.
You know, I pitied him. Why did you pity him, Miss
Martin? Well, he was a good fellow who was strange. He could
smile, you know, he had a nice smile, but you could tell
it was never laughing. There was something in his mind. Something. Oh
I don't know. At least a year closer to two, I haven't seen
Carlos. No letters, not a card, nothing. It was in these
The last time I heard when was that year ago January? I was in
here. He sent me a calendar. Sometimes he could get along fine,
very well, other times terrible. I couldn't keep him down. How they
managed to stay out of jail at Leiva Ciny, I don't know. Sometimes
he should have been in jail five times over. We'll say, you don't
know of anybody who might have a recent picture of Carlos, a snapshot?
No, no knowing, I can think of. Okay, Vincent, the
year's our cord. If you do think of somebody, let us know where
you'll help. Sure glad to for I hear of anybody. What kind of
a day is it outside? Hot? Hot? By five o'clock that afternoon,
Ben and I were certain of one thing. Carlos Monterey was in the
city of Los Angeles, somewhere. We drove back to the office and told
ed Backstrand about our interviews with Monterey's relatives and his friends. Inquiries and requests
for further identification and information on him were immediately relayed to the state mental institutions.
The thirteen year old picture of Monterey taken from the files was copied and
distributed with a note of caution as to the age of the photograph, and
apb was sent out. Stakeouts were placed at the home of Monterey's brother,
at the brother's store, and at the apartment of Anita Martin, a special
detail of three hundred men was ordered to join the Dragon at already in operation.
The details at the airport and the bus terminals were alerted, as well
as the details at the union depot and the main post office. By six
o'clock that night, almost one thousand men were actively working at the job of
tracking down Carlos Monterey. At six thirty PM, Ben and I drew a
four hour relief period. We drove out to Ben's place and his wife fixes
some dinner. At ten thirty that night, we reported into the office,
picked up at backstand, and we drove out to join the mandment. Unit
thirty two are on the court of South Flower Lewis at three ninety w KLA
three six seven, Unit twelve eight cold N sixty six at eighty six four
of wall streams them out about a five oh seven LA six seven Unit forty
two five point three h east GM Apartment m D, and we cruised with
a dragnet operation until five o'clock that morning. Now Ben and I took turns
driving. Actually, the tremendous job of scouring five hundred square miles of city
for one man was only beginning unless it was an unexpected break. The search
for Carlinos Monterey could wear on for weeks. It did. Night after night.
The man went on, and day after day there was no break.
Sixteen days later, on a Sunday night, I went to bed early.
I read a while, and then I turned off the lamp and went to
sleep. Hello Friday talking Sorry, Joe, get in here as fast as
you can. What's the matter that girl Monta Rayu, the one you talked
to. Yeah, she left her apartment, went to her girlfriends. Yeah,
she's dead. It is a very red brick founded by the body.
How long she've been dead? Scar her? She was seen alive about an
hour and a half ago. Got three bare footprints, good length of stride.
Found them down in the lomp beside the house. What do they look
like? Same guy? First toe missing from the left foot, the same
weight, impression should be about five foot eleven. That checks out without you,
God, doesn't it all right? So it's the same guy. What
about those shoes? We finally, Yeah, they correspond they were impregnated with
foreign matter. What'd you find? Particles of lettuce, leave, dry onion
skin, traces of red cabbage, maybe a vegetable counter maybe what about the
City Wholesale Market down on Front Street. What about any market in Los Angeles?
No lead. That wholesale market is big enough to hide anybody. Hundreds
of traincents working there, and some of them even sleep there. For a
guy like Monterey to be perfect, it's a fair guess. Check it when
it opens. They opened at two am, two thirty. Now I get
back to the office and pick up as many extra men as you need to
get down there right away. Okay, you know he's a rougherence to watch
it. On Monday, June twenty third, at two minutes past three am,
we pulled up at the City Wholesale Ploduce Market with the exception of fifty
four police officers in plain clothes who mingled with the buyers and sellers. Business
went along as usual. The market itself, covered almost three square blocks in
the lower part of the downtown area, was divided off into hundreds of individual
stalls by flimsy wooden partitions. To make the search even tougher. The place
was crowded for the first forty five minutes. We had the men circulated at
random through the crowd on the chance that one of them might spot Carlos Monterey
from the thirteen year old picture. It didn't happen. After that, we
started the systematic canvas. We talked to the customers, We talked to the
managers of the different booths. We gave them Monterey's description, We showed them
his picture. Nobody recognized them. We checked the employment records one by one.
Not a sign. Sorry, sergeant, like to hell, I've never
seen the guy. Okay, mister Snyders, thank you. We sure picked
the sweet jobs, don't we. Oh yeah, we could spend a year
at this. Oh, sergeant, Sergeant Friday, Yeah, comanski you find
something. I had the boot over there against the far wall things. He
might have hired Monterey a couple of days ago. Come on, well over
there, sergeant showing Monern inspection. Yeah, he thinks it might be him.
Mister President, this is a sergeant rom Merrow, Sergeant Friday, And
yes, I told you your boy, sergeant, this fellow Carlos, I
hire him to help last Thursday, bigger rush for me. And now so
I hired him. You're sure he's a man in the picture. Things so
a little older maybe, but I know faces he's the man you're looking for
him, You say, you hired this man last Thursday. It's all right,
it's a big rush for me now in the morning. I hire him
a Thursday. He worked Thurs the day Friday Saturday. But I don't show
up this morning, so I got annoy. Use too many minutes to pick
it from you don't show up by lett him? Go What kind of work
did he do for you? Same as he did before? Schiller done the
heavy work moving the stores they're cleaning up. What kind of brodius to Shiller
handle? Mister frans Nanny fansy, very fancy vegetable, they say, choice,
no potatoes, expensive red onions. Hill the sells to the bigger hotels.
Shillar handle brown onions, mister fans On only the best big dealer that
the Shiller tell us it to the big hotels. How long has this Carlo
has been working around the market? Oh, I don't know. Is it
just the like of their race? First they're working for me, then the
lord go Marceine, then the shielder. Hey, why are you looking so
hard to for hear me? He stolen somebody, He murdered somebody, Ye,
my murder. Do you have any idea where Carlos live for me no,
no, And if it comes to back here, I tell her to
get out. I got nothing to do with this straw. You'll tell him
nothing, mister Presidenttie, here's our card. If you see Monterey again,
call us say nothing to him. Sure, sure, Joe, call the
chief at the office where your messages came in banks. Now, come on,
Ben, Yeah, there's a phone booth. See no, I don't
wear Crady had a little laught. Oh yeah, you got a nickel see
oh yeah? And there thanks, I'll see what that wants. City Hall
two five one Jee detectives always had him. Mike head there Ed take it
on extension too, were you? Thanks? Fan talking Friday Ed, we'll
fasten this one. Joe, what's up? Main post office? Conlis Monterey
pick up a letter there less than five minutes ago. Come on, Ben,
there's that over there with Welberg. Yeah five pick short, jammed up
around here, l r Ed Friday from home, you all said, Wilberg,
All set Chief Spring Street to San Pedro sunset. The first gotta covered
good? What's the story? Both office detailed tipped us off. Five minutes
after eight, A man answering Corlis Monterey's description picked up a letter at the
general delivery window that was sixteen minutes ago. Who spotted him, Sam Lane,
you got to look at him just as he was leaving the window,
called to him to stop, but Monterey ran Lane called me and we threw
an it over the area for six blocks around and Monterey is still somewhere inside
this area. I don't know how I could have gotten out. What's next
and I'll give him an how to break foot. After that, we start
a house to house search with the whole area. Stop all pedestrian and vehicular
traffic for identification. If you're going to jam up the depot traffic, that's
cheaper than murder. Romero get going. The first hour we counted off in
five minutes segments like Backstrand. We felt close enough to moderate to touch him,
but he still wasn't there. The north and south ends of the blockade
started to move in, slowly, searching every store, every house, every
conceivable place where a man might hide out. In the meantime, Ben and
I worked the Spring Street side of the blockade and watching the faces of the
pedestrians as they came through one by one, examining all vehicles and their drivers.
In the morning, war on the sun came out and it started to
get warm. By eleven o'clock that morning, Monterey still had not been found.
The temperature was ninety three. In Los Angeles, it was still climbing.
The search went on. At ten minutes past two pm. Backstrand made
the round. How's it look, scanner? Not good? Going slow?
How much longer you figure? I don't know, and it'll go to after
doc that's showing district down here is like a vatchiness. Yeah, nothing,
nothing, but he's someplace inside this blockade. He's gonna be any chance getting
relief for the men in our square, and some of them been working straight
through since yesterday. MM. I'll see check with me if I find this
afternoon. Thank you, Scarving. Keep a sharp look up. One slip,
that's all it takes. The search went on at three o'clock that afternoon.
The temperature was ninety five. We swelltered and we waited. At three
forty five, Backstrand sent a squad of men into the Union depot to search
it and talked about him. There was one false alarm when one of the
men thought he saw him on a race slipping out a side door into a
taxi it turned out to be a train conductor. At twenty five minutes past
four, Backstrand passed along the order to our detail to start moving in the
house by house was a tedious job, and it went slowly. The men
were tired. At five point thirty the relief squad showed up. Ben and
I stayed on. After another two hours of house to house searching, the
trap was narrowed down to a three square block area, a single block wide
and three blocks long. It started to get dark. Back Strand ordered out
batteries of floodlights. By eight pm, the cordon closed in around the last
two square blocks. Lines rossets give ready to move? Good? What do
you think? I well know, pretty soon one way or the other.
Pry keep that traffick moving, all right, you two get going, say
lads, given Joe, let's take a look in here. Okay, here
is an old build. Yeah what Komanski go? Oh no, here,
men to go away. There's his flashlight down the end of the corridor.
There he's signal yeah, come on, Kemanski, Yes, down below searching
the basement. Come on, Monterey, he's been there. I think,
yeah, this alright? Where over here and watch the step that light's bad.
There he is, says he's a janitor. Oh my, it's been
slug all right, come on, how it happened? Can you tell us?
Man? A big man hit me. I came down to him,
get the baskets. He hit me in the rare and over to the new
building, the new buildings at the one next door. Yeah, just a
few minutes ago. Nobody's come out of this building for the past half hour.
Every door in the place's garden. Oh no, I'm at the doors.
He went to the tunnel. I saw him over there's the tunnel.
I'll take the look, yo, yeah, the tunnel. Next the two
basements, same company, whole building, a new building, a tunnel connext
the basements. Come on, yeah, comansk you get out the backstrand tell
them what's happened, right, sergeant, call an ambulance. Right, all
right? Then through the tunnel. What's where you go in? The right's
bad? It is? M had a door up ahead, and yeah,
I think so, yeah, yeah, let's go good. There's a stairway.
Come on, watch the doors. Jure the elevator. They're both on
the third floors. Head for the stairs that fans come on one more floor,
yeah right, come on hurry, yeah, look cop on the stairs
there you go. Alright, alright, you duck from the elevator. Joey's
going down, but we'll never make it on the stairs. No, look,
you're elevator control levers fence. Let's try it anyway. I kick the
control lever, kick it them good, all right, Ben knocked the lever
back. Come on quick, yep, what's the matter, Jo, it's
Jim. We're going time. All right, let's kick it here now that
doesn't can you reach the door control? What just now? I'll see ye
yeah, I'm heayyah. While he's still in the building. Both elevators in
here now down the hall Bentley office of my left, I think, yeah,
okay, here we are by keep credit art all right, mon al
right, put on that gunner, come on out. Okay, Joe,
let's take it. Watch it happen. He's going everything he can get his
hands from. All right, Monterey here, come on you okay, then
take him gift them hum nice looking guy, clean cutting. Yeah, doesn't
figure that. What's that? My wife would say? He doesn't look like
a killer, does he? What's a you are supposed to look like?
Well? Out the story you have just heard is cruel. Only the names
were changed to protect the innocent. Carlos Monterey was examined by five different psychiatrists
appointed by the Superior Court and was found to be seen. He was tried
and convicted of murder in the first degree. He was executed in the legal
gas chamber at the State Penitentiary. You have just heard the seventeenth in a
new series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from
the office of W. A. Wharton, Acting Chief of Police, Los
Angeles Police Department. Tonight's program is dedicated to motorcycle Patrolman John Kramer of the
El Paso, Texas Sheriff's Department, who, on the afternoon of April twenty
sixth, nineteen forty, gave his life so that yours might be more secure.
Drag Meth came to you from Los Angeles, your tune for the Stars
on NBC Welcome back. Well, this is another case that moves from a
brutal crime scene to simple clothes that put our heroes on the right track.
It's such a great formula and really works time after time with all the different
turns and variations and investigation can take. Now, you might have been wondering
how the criminal was found guilty even though he was obviously disturbed. The short
answer to that, and I'm offering my non lawyer explanation, is that legal
insanity requires that whatever disturbance you have renders you unable to understand your act towards
nature or the difference between right and wrong. Enough in today's episode, case
that that was the case. Friday's question at the end as to what a
killer looks like is a good one. Media portrayals of killers then and now
often imagine a certain type or a certain look. There's makeup that can be
applied to actors that can in certain ways reflect menaces, and certainly actors can
put that into their performance even without makeup, and you know, camera work
and things like that, and then of course you have aereotypes about how criminals
look. One of my favorite audio dramas of all time, Times of Midnight
made fun of that when suspects were being asked who they suspected was the murderer,
and they would give an answer, and when asked why, they'd say,
well, because he or because she has beady eyes. But none of
that really counts in real life, and if you can get citizens distinguishing between
fantasy and reality as much as possible, that makes the job of police officers
a lot easier. Well, now we turn to listener comments and feedback,
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not only the original Dan Holiday, but the original Adam Graham in the first
four Box thirteen episodes and the original sixteen inch recordings. You are one excitable
guy. Back then two thousand and nine, in those first recordings and no
commentary, just pushing it out there as fast as you could. Suddenly,
on episode twenty one you open up with a lot of commentary with where the
show was going. Some of it was not quite well well structured in presentation
as you speak now. I only point this out to show how well you
progress through the years. The host intro is better, the commentary is better,
and you should be rightly proud to have improved in over a decade as
the Great Detectives podcast host. It seems in the middle years you consciously slowed
your speaking pace down a lot, but have since reved it up a little.
I like your lively pace now, and I appreciate that you sometimes deliver
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You really have an experience, and if you didn't start out as a complete
expert on old time radio, you sure are now your faithful listener. Well,
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for the podcast. I did not receive favorable feedback on that particular and so
in early weeks I may have been over correcting. I should also add that
that is the only episode that I've edited down because there are people who find
the episode zero zero zero, listen to it, think that's what the whole
podcast is going to be like, and get you know, turned off to
the whole thing that is preserved. My whole intro from that pilot episode is
preserved in the season one commentary that's part of Volume one, and when I
do lesten to early commentaries, which I've had an occasion to do as we've
been getting Volume one posted and now into volume two. With Volume one and
with also Old Time Radio Superman, I too, am kind of blown away
by the speed at which I started talking. When I was first getting started,
I'm like, where did this energy come from? I mean, I
know it came from it came from nervousness, and I also I got the
idea and I think it may have had something to do with like the sort
of church culture that I grew up around. It was the idea that passion
means being loud and being fast. Those two things I've kind of come to
appreciate more as I've grown older at sometimes passion, eloquence, what have you
can come with variation of pitch and variation of speed, and it doesn't have
to be all that fast. But slowing myself down is always a challenge whenever
I'm doing anything with communications, and actually throughout so much of the early years
of the podcast, what's kind of surprised me is I've gone back and reviewed
so many episodes, is that there were, you know, not a whole
lot of commentary, often a little bit of intro at the beginning, and
then at the end, maybe a sentence or two and we're done, which
I wouldn't have expected because we were still getting all you know, when we
got the negative feedback and reviews, it was you you would think that I
was going on like Jefferson Smith at the end of Mister Smith Goes to Washington.
So many of those episodes were two or two and a half minutes of
me talking combined opening and closing. And I was not an expert on old
time radio when I started. I knew some things, but some of the
things I knew, to paraphrase a president, were so I don't know if
you could start out today with a podcast knowing as little about the topic when
I started out as I did. So I'm really grateful for the time that
I got into this the mid to light two thousands, with not only great
detectives, but the old Time Dragnet Show and the old time Radio Superman Show,
and there was a real opportunity to learn as you go, and I
think that on balance, people were incredibly gracious and encouraging and that really helped
me just to be able to stick with it and to be able to learn
and get better. And I've always been open to constructive feedback as opposed to
feedback that is nasty or out of touch with reality. Quite frankly, and
even this year, we've made some changes in some subtle and not so subtle
ways. For example, we've changed the show notes and some of the things
that we do in them. I appreciated your note and all the encouragement that
I've received from so many listeners over the years, which is really allowed the
podcast to change and grow. Well, now it's time to thank our Patreon
supporter of the day. Thank you to Pat, Patreon supporter since September twenty
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wear. I'm engaged to be mad congratulations. I'm not sure they're in order.
That's what I want you to find out. Well, just second glory.
I don't go into petty snooping if you're just trying to find out whether
your boyfriend is stepping out of I'm not concerned about other women, all right.
What I want to know is what does he do for living? Didn't
he tell you yes, a number of things, but you don't believe him.
I didn't tell yesterday. They're too fantastic, all about big business here,
but he won't give me any details. Also secret. If I can't
help wondering your tabe he's mixed up in something illegal. Otherwise why would he
try to keep them from him? I don't know. Well, Well,
it cost to have you investigated quite a lot. But I'll give you some
advice for nothing. What's that forgetting? I can't as long as you have
such serious doubts about it. I love him? Well, then what are
you doing here? Hoping you'll prove my doubts are wrong? An if they
aren't, I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, do
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