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What's he throughout the impossible or whatever
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be true. And it is not
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a touch of mysticism is today?
It is Empires as a host of them

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souls, hellophaps, my father spirit
dud for a certain termed work the night

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yere the old gods aunt dead?
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dead? You can't complain. People
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cause to effect. That actually,
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it's more like a big ball of
whiby wobbly timey. Whymy stuff. You're

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listening to Paranormal UK Radio and good
evening everybody. Welcome to another edition of

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the Paranormal UK Radio Show, the
flagship show here on the Paranormal UK Radio

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Network. I'm your main host for
the evening, Mark Johnson. Irene Allen

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unfortunately is having some back issues tonight, so she's taking the night off,

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so I'm working solo tonight. Just
send Irene some healing energy and hopefully she's

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feeling better soon. So and you
know when I was over there visiting her

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in August, Yeah, I could
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back problems. Thankfully, I've never
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So anyway, hopefully we will have
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I just wanted to welcome everybody back
to the show. I don't really

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have a lot of new updates at
this point in time. We are coming

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up on Halloween very soon, my
favorite time of the year, and this

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year is just flying by. There's
a lot of things going on in the

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world right now. You know,
I really don't touch on politics or things

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right now, but if you know, people can say some prayers or keep

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good thoughts for things to get better, healing people who are who are in

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the middle of all this. Good
God, what a weird time to be

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alive, I'll tell you. So. Anyway, I think we're going to

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go right into our show tonight now. Our guest tonight is an author of

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a new book called Enter the Journey, a Mystical Guide for Rebirth and Renewal.

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So we want to welcome our guest
Rosanna. I inco Rosanna, how

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are you tonight, Hi Mark,
I'm doing great, Thank you, and

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I would like to just send wonderful
wishes, best wishes and speedy recovery to

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Irene, and I know what back
pain's like, and I really feel for

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her, so I'm sorry she can't
join us, but I'm sending lots of

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feeling vibes from Sedona. Great place
to be broadcasting from. I'll tell you,

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if you want to send good energy, then that's the place to do

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it. It sure is. I'm
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and I've been through Arizona before in
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and yet I've never made it to
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is on my bucket list just for
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location. Oh, it's stunning and
you're really gonna love it, Mark,

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So I really encourage you to come
and visit. You'll know exactly when the

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right time is for you to come, but you're gonna love it. And

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I encourage everyone to visit Sedona.
It really is a magical, mystical place.

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Now, let's talk about a little
bit about you and your background and

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what led you on your journey and
to writing this book. Well, how

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far back can we go? So
what led me on my spiritual journey?

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Probably about thirty years ago, I
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I was invited to a sweat lodge
with a Native American elder and that completely

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changed my life. I was having
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a lot of dreams, a lot
of sechronicity that led me to that moment.

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it was actually quite a scary time. Again. I was very naive

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at the time, but my dreams
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this so called shaman was actually a
sorcerer who was trying to make me wife

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number nine. Oh, so that's
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prequel to Enter the Journey. So
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Finding your life Purpose, and that
led me onto this book, Enter

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the Journey. So many synchronicities and
many teachers, and a lot of going

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through the dark Knight of the soul
coming out the other side. And as

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we continue to be you know,
students on this journey, this mystical journey

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of life. Well, you know
are listeners who've been following me. I

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ad trussed me. I know all
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I've been going through it for the
last year. My wife passed away last

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year. Yeah, so it's I
definitely understand that struggle. When you first

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mentioned doing a Native American sweat lodge
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that's an odd location for it.
He was on tour. Yeah, I

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guess he's out shopping for that new
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was fifteen in the end. I
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one who got I got away thanks
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pack that kept occurring in a dream
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me the gate leave, you know, exit, go through the exit and

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don't come back. Well, when
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late mother, she passed away this
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was, Yeah, she was.
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you know, she would always openly
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she would talk about you know,
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who had passed away, and you
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place of safety because I knew that
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continues after death, that it's just
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having a lot of dreams and really
remembering dreams and then trying to analyze the

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dreams. And then my mother's best
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like a second mom to me,
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and again we used to just have
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coffee reader, so you know,
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read my cup and you know,
and then I started moving into into another

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world, an expansion of the dream
time and bringing you know, the dream

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time and this time, you know, merging the two realities together. Very

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interesting, the the aspect of the
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of did you find your dreams more
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go with that. You know,
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analyze the symbols. But then I
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went through my teenage years, all
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and the energy was becoming very strong, and I was at a heightened

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point with it. And then I
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four, and then met an incredible
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a wonderful community, and I started
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really safe place for me to explore
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connect more profoundly with nature, and
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safe, and I felt really at
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feel very much at home in nature
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I was no longer afraid. You
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which is something very close to me. I have been kind of on

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and off of shamanic path for many
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between because life intervenes and whatnot.
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even trained for a year with some
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who I see you know wrote a
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I absolutely love her so coming off
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be a shamanic practitioner for a year. Unfortunately, again, life intervened right

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after that, and I haven't really
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it because I loved it so much
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to kind of put things aside to
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whole journeying thing, which I'm struggling
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journey, it's just all the clutter
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and I can't move past it.
Keep trying, though, can I can?

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I ask you, Mark, when
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the drum? Do you do you
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else to journey? I have used
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and I listened to those. I
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I've never tried to journey while drumming
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always felt like that's counterproductive because you're
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had people drum for me, but
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to journey and have you played your
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Not in a while? No,
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But again, it's one of those
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last few years. So now I'm
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it's I don't really have the resources
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and there's I'm back out here in
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out here of people to connect with
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So anyway, that's just with some
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you and your book. So when
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and you started realizing your spirit animals
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I've always had an incredible love for
wolves, and I would always dream

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of wolves, and honestly, I'm
I am a wolf spirit. I really

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am. You know, the pack
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time where I really was in danger, it was so profound, you know,

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I've even talking about I get emotional
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such a bond with these beautiful wolves, and yeah, they did save me

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from that situation, and I just
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totally understand what you were saying.
And I really want to thank you Mark

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for sharing you know, your story
with me and with the viewers right now

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with the listeners, because life does
take over, and you know, we

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we sort of step off our rhythm
and what we forget and you know I've

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done it and many people do it
is that they're always there for us.

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They're there. Yes, the more
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spirit, their energy. You know, we could even draw a picture of

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them, write a poem for our
spirit animals, talk to them, sing

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to them, or even just just
think of them. We tend to forget

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when we're going through these times that
they are actually here for us, you

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know, the most. But we're
human, our human side takes over and

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we forget. So I totally understand
you know what you're what you were saying.

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Now, just for the listeners who
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can you give a brief explanation from
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entails. Sure from my point of
view, Well, there's different types of

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shamanism. There's traditional shamanism across cultural
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I'm connected to is the same as
Sandra Ingerman. You know, I trained

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through the Foundation for Shamanic Studies with
Michael Harner, and then I trained with

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some wonderful teachers under that, and
then I trained with Jonathan Horowitz who founded

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the Scandinavian Center for Shamanic Studies in
Denmark and he's in Sweden now. So

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so the type of journeying that I
connect to is the way that I was

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taught through that type of journeying with
a drum or even a rattle or a

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didgerido, And it was the technique
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of us and through his book The
Way of the Shaman that he had learned

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from the Havaro Indians of the Upper
Amazon. So it's a basic technique of

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going into an altered state of consciousness
through the drum journey. Or again,

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it could be a crystal bowl,
or it could be a didgerido, or

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it could be a rattle and it's
a way of taming or just shutting off

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or hoping that the monkey mind is
going to shut off through breathing, through

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listening to the drum, and moving
into your intention. So when I'm teaching

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or I'm working with a client,
I will always say, before we enter

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any type of journey, a shamanic
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So what is your intention? So, for example, I would encourage

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them to meet their spirit animal.
So go on this journey to first meet

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your spirit animal. And it could
be a short journey. And you know,

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some people are very visual, some
people are audio. Some people you

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know, say that they feel nothing. And that's okay because there's no right

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or wrong way of doing this shamanic
journey. You really just need to trust

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yourself, to honor yourself on this
journey and to know that there's incredible spirit

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animals or power animals that are here
for us. There's spirit guides that are

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waiting to connect with us. So
that would be a very basic way to

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start. And even prior to going
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you to go out in nature and
find a tree, just sit with the

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tree, put your hands on the
tree, Thank the spirit of the tree.

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Put your hands on the earth,
Thank our beautiful mother Earth, and

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just sit there and breathe in the
energy and allow Mother Earth and the spirits

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of nature to nurture you, and
even ask, you know, please help

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me tame this monkey mind. You
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We're thinking, Okay, oh,
nope, I gotta go. Oh,

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I have an appointment. Oh what
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What am I gonna have for dinner? And we just wander. And I

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know through my own experience, the
more frequently I would journey, the more

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I would be able to tame the
monkey mine. Somehow, I would focus

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so much on the breath and so
much on the journey and on what I'm

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sensing, feeling, hearing and seeing
in the journey. And again, you

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know, some people don't feel sense
or here, and maybe they just feel

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like they're journeying through a void.
And I've done that many times, where

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I've gone into a journey and nothing's
happening, and i feel like I'm in

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a dark void, and that in
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a journey. So again, I
would encourage to just stay with it,

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don't resist, just surrender into that
journey and allow yourself to receive. Be

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open to receiving the guidance that is
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being wolf and everyone can have.
Everyone has totally different spirit animals depending on

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the nature of that animal, what
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But is it possible that I I've
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could change or have different spirit animal
guides. Oh. Absolutely, Mark,

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we have more than one spirit animal
and guide. I work with many.

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I work with various power animals I've
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you know they're always there, but
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specific time in your life. So, for example, for myself, if

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I need to move into more of
my leadership qualities, my cougar will be

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with me. My cougar will be
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through being a better leader. You
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healing, I have another spirit animal
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healing. If I need to be
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spirit animal that comes through for that. So absolutely, there's more than one

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spirit animal. And of course I'm
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indigenous cultures in the world that have
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those traditions. But the way that
I work is a basic technique that was

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taught, you know, through the
foundation. Okay, I mean a long

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time ago. I'm talking about a
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I've been on my spiritual journey since
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grew up in church like you did, not Catholic, Presbyterian, but kind

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of broke away from that and started
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two thousands, I was learning more
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Bear was my my animal guide,
which is ironic because where I live

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here in New Jersey, we get
lots of bears. Oh how wonderful?

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Do you see many of them?
Mark? Yeah? Yeah. My house

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is located in a lake community up
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behind me, so nobody's behind me. So I get a lot of deer,

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foxes, bears, sometimes wild turkeys
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in fact, I saw three slightly
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the woods the other day. Oh, what a blessing. That is so

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beautiful, and that in itself,
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Spirits of the bear, you know
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bear is with you, and you
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Yeah. I love seeing them around
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I walk around outside, I kind
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house. Actually walked around the corner
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came around the corner and there was
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I looked at him, he looked
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opposite directions. What that is just
such powerful medicine. That is amazing,

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you know. So the signs are
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it's very interesting. Now. The
one thing with with shamanic journeying that again

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I'm kind of helping to explain for
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when we talk about drumming or rattles, is using a technique to through vibrations

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through It's all everything's energy and vibrations, So when you have a rhythmic drumming,

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especially live, not just listening through
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the vibe. My teacher used to
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he would walk around the group,
but sometimes drum right over you and you

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just feel that reverberation going through your
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But it puts one in an altered
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Some people can liken it to astral
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spirit or however you want to put
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and with shamanism there from what I've
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Upper, Midilum, and lower worlds. Depending on what you're looking for in

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terms of healing or information or meeting
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would be journeying to. Does that
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it does. And it always comes
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I can have an intention where I
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to travel, I'm going to journey
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and then all of a sudden,
that's my intention. I surrender,

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I trust, I go and move
into the journey. I go into that

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altered state, that very relaxed state, and then I find myself in the

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middle world in the tree with the
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into the flight into the upper world. And again I'm trusting, and I

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think it's really crucial, you know, to trust. It's very important to

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build that relationship with your spirit animals
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be even more in my experience,
more clear and more profound and deep and

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really moving into deeper journeys when you
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to clarify for listeners, when we
talk about the lower world, that in

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no way has religious connotations, if
you know what I mean. You're not

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talking about going down to the depths
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Meeting your animal spirits tends to happen
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which is very much a natural world. Yes, the middle world is

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you can almost consider that the plane
that we're currently living in absolutely and then

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the upper world being you know,
the higher level vibrations connecting more with higher

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spirits and guides. And it's interesting
that you talked about having that journey experience

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with writing with Al going up to
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similar experience many years ago doing a
journey where I had an eagle take me

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from the tree up to the upper
world. Oh that's beautiful. I actually

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went through the Kashak records, Oh
fantastic. Has a very interesting information given

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to me there, which in a
nutshell, was all talking about balance,

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which is something I needed in my
life, about balancing out lifetimes, balancing

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out even energies, masculine feminine energies. Just so much is based on balance.

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You know what. I absolutely love
this conversation we're having, Mark,

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because it's spot on. I was
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we go to kitchen a woman who
is the feminine and warrior rock who is

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the masculine, and that vortex is
all about balance. And that's exactly what

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I was doing yesterday, really sitting
between that balance of divine masculine and divine

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feminine, and it's just an incredible
energy of merging the two together. And

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when we really breathe into that energy
of both the masculine and the feminine and

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merge it into a wonderful creation,
it's just divine. It really is blissful.

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So with anybody who might be interested
in learning more about shamanism, what

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would you suggest would be a good
starting point for people? So a good

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starting point would be setting your intention. First of all, why do you

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want to connect? What is your
intention? You may have an intention of

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I'm confused about my life journey and
I need help, I need assistance,

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I need guidance. And I would
recommend, you know, just just putting

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that out. Put put that intention
out, and then I would recommend again

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going out in nature, sitting with
a tree, and then receiving the wisdom

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through nature. And then if you're
seeking a teacher, you know, ask

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to be aligned with the right teacher
for you. And honestly, there is

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so much power. I know,
you know the Internet and I don't know.

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The Internet is a portal in itself, and I've found so many incredible

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teachers and I've been led on so
many synchronistic journeys through googling. Googling a

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word. So you know, even
if you wanted to just google, show

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comonic practitioner in my area, or
even you know animism, because animism is

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really what we're doing as well,
you know, connecting to our power,

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animals, connecting with nature. So
I would recommend finding an experienced shamanic practitioner

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in your area and maybe going for
a session, a one on one or

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if you feel like you want to
be part of a community, try a

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basic workshop. You know, you
may even want to try online, you

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know, if you don't want to
feel like you want to be amongst other

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people, if you're not ready to
be in a community and you want to

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stay just you know, in your
home, but you still want to connect,

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then there's lots of people that are
teaching. I'm going to be starting

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monthly shamanic drumming groups online as well. But you know, you may find

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someone in your area, but put
the intention out to align to the right

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align with the right person for you. That's a great way to start.

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And there are books that you could
read as well if you want to learn

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more about on the background of shamanism. Michael what was Michael's last name?

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Again, I have his book is
just I'm just having a brain freeze on

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his last name, Michael Harner,
The Way of the Shaman, And of

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course Andra Ingerman has some wonderful books. You know, her book on her

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books on soul retrieval incredibly profound and
extremely healing. And you know, I

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know for myself, you know,
in the area of soul retrieval, my

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whole life was transformed completely. Yes, I have her books as well,

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and I've had the opportunity during my
own training on learning soul retrieval, and

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that was that was something quite different
and very very rewarding. Oh that's cool.

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It is extremely rewarding. Again when
we surrender into that place and opening

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ourselves up to the healing, and
once we have the courage to move into

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that healing, our lives will never
be the same. No, that's true,

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and there's so much that can be
done with it. I mean,

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depending on what you're calling is what
you want to do with this information?

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You have to go with your intuition. Where's your intuition leading you? Yes,

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well, you are your greatest teacher. We have wonderful teachers that were

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blessed to have and we're you know, we're always a student. We're always

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a teacher and a student, so
we're so very blessed. But you know,

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in the end, the wisdom is
within you. You have all the

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answers. Well, if you want
to look at it as part of your

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higher self. Your higher self always
has the answers, and that's where meditation

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really comes in handy too. Not
just the journeying is a great tool,

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but through meditation, quieting the mind
and being able to connect to that higher

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self where most of that information is
already there. I totally agree with you.

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Absolutely meditation is crucial. And I
mean, look what's happened in the

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world. So many people are suffering, and anxiety in individuals has never been

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this high. So if we could
all meditate, you know, that would

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completely change our lives. I agree, And we've all been distracted, we

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have this could all be another completely
different show. But yes, we're distracted

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by so many things in Western society, and where I find solace is in

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the indigenous cultures outside of Western society, which you know, so many Westerners

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for hundreds of years look down on
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oh, they're primitive savages, they
need to be converted to our religion,

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and not realizing that in a majority
of these cultures they have, through shamanic

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practices and their spiritual beliefs, are
able to tap into energies that and gather

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information. I mean the local medicine
man or woman, the local shaman is

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able to bring forth information that just
is helpful for the tribe in so many

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different ways. I have a lot
of respect for not only Native Americans,

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but the Australian Aboriginal people, and
who probably have one of the oldest cultures

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on the planet and very very deep
shamanic roots in that culture. I totally

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agree with you, and I have
a great deal of respect for indigenous cultures

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from around the world. And they
are the wise people. They are the

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wisdom keepers, and they know the
answers, and they've known the answers to

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the Earth's secrets, and they know
how to move through those portals. One

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of the things, and again this
is where Western society I have very much

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difficulty living in these days, is
the fact that we are so distracted and

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so many different things. We're taught
from a very young age to be very

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materialistic. You know, there's mainstream
religion which is also very restrictive and all

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the dogmas to be followed. And
you know, the original spirituality was to

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help us connect more with the spiritual
world, with those higher forces and not

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be separate or have to have go
to an intermediary like a priest or someone

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you could connect directly yourself, and
we're so far away from that. And

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when we talk about if everybody in
the world would start meditating, it's going

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to have to also be a lot
of deprogramming because people have been programmed for

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so many years that this type of
talk is it seems like ah as my

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friend likes to call it, Harry
Ferry to them, Yeah, you're absolutely

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right on that, completely right.
I mean, it's all about deprogramming and

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if we could all shed all of
that programming and move through it, and

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of course, you know, let's
be real, it takes work, it

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takes courage. But if you can
have the courage to move into the inner

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journey, the outer journey will completely
change something we very much need. We

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desperately need it. And you know, it is very sad to see the

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youth, you know, and our
society and just how the world is unfolding.

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And if we could come back to
self, come back to nature,

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and it does take courage, but
take that step of courage because your life

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will never be the same, and
that it's like shedding the skin of the

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snake. So if we're talking about
a spirit animal. You know, a

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snake is a wonderful spirit power animal
for this discussion. So you know,

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the snake is shedding the skin,
and if we can shed the skin of

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the programming, you know, and
deprogram ourselves from what we've been taught and

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really move back into your own individualism, right, your uniqueness, and really

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embrace that. That's when things start
to change as well. That's when you

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transform your own reality. What about
we talked about spirit animals, but what

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about spirit guides? What about those
helpful I always was taught helpful, compassionate

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spirits who are there on our side
to help us. And being able to

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connect with them. Yeah, we
are so blessed to have them as well.

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And you know, as you continue
to journey and to meditate, because

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you know, when I meditate,
my spirit guides come through as well.

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And then you can move into you
know the area of channeling as well.

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If you're in a deep altered state
and your ego is really really put aside,

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and you can be that clear divine
channel of grace that's what I call

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it, and allow that information and
that healing to flow through you. You

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know, that will really help shift
you to a different place. So these

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wonderful spirit guides. They're always here
for us as well. It's all about

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tapping into the essence of who they
are and asking the curious questions. You

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know, who are you? Why
have you come to visit me? What

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is it that you want to teach
me? So how can someone incorporate bate

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this into their daily life? I
mean we life goes through so many different

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changes, many different phases in life, and people are always searching for what's

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my purpose, what's my journey?
And the truth could be you can have

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several phases in your life and to
complete one journey and then you start another

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or overlapping goals. Sometimes we may
never get the full answer, but we

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may be led down a certain path
as we learn to discover the answers for

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ourselves. So how just in general, over the course of someone's life,

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how can they incorporate all this into
their lives to improve their lives? Again,

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and I'm not using this in a
religious way, but the power of

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prayer, you know, the the
power of intention and the power of prayer.

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Waking up in the morning breathing in
thank you Creator for this glorious day,

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maybe it doesn't feel glorious Thank you
creator. You know maybe I'm having

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challenges on this day. How can
you help me? Thank you to all

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my guides, Thank you to all
my angels, and ask them, invite

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them to show you a sign,
Invite them to come into your life.

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So you know there's ways intention and
prayer. Then you could move into art,

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and you could move into writing,
and it could be as simple as

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you know, a piece of paper
in front of you. Thank you my

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spirit guides, who are you?
Show me who you are, and then

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open yourself up to receive the signs
and the secreticity will follow. When you're

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in alignment with your intention, of
purpose and your prayer and you open yourself

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up to receiving, that's when everything
changes. So even try it for a

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day, even for people who are
skeptical or people who have you know,

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we're human again, and some days
you're just like you know, I don't

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believe in any of this, it's
all woo woo. But try it.

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Try it for a day. Really, move into your heart, go into

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your heart center, put that intention
out to the universe. Even put your

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feet onto the earth, take your
shoes off, take your socks off,

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bare feet on the earth. Thank
you Mother, earth. Put your hands

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on a tree. Thank you,
spirit of the tree, show me what

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I need to see or hear today, and then just open yourself up to

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receiving and see. That's actually something
I love doing, is I'll walk by

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a tree, I have to reach
out and touch it, feel the energy

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I go through. I've never been
to Sedona, but I've been through I

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don't know if you've ever been through
Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs.

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Oh, oh beautiful. It's the
same type of that red sandstone and these

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pillars going into the sky, and
there's so much wonderful energy there. I

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have family out that way, so
I always go through Garden of the Gods

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and I just have to touch the
stones, put my hands against the red

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sandstone. And while I may not
physically feel any energy flowing it, just

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that act alone feels good. I'll
walk by a plant or a flower and

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I'll just lightly touch it, you
know, just having that connection with nature,

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which is something that so many of
us don't have or we take for

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granted. I totally agree. It's
just it's crucial and it really can change

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our whole entire lives. Going back
to what you were saying a few minutes

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ago, though too, about being
waking up each day and thinking creator,

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thinking whoever you want to know for
the day, and people need to look

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at it this way is there is
the term the power of positive thinking.

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If people continuously are thinking negative thoughts, or they're constantly worried about what's going

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to be happening, and they're living
slightly in the future, worrying about bills,

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worrying about jobs, worrying about family
issues or any of these things,

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and not living in the moment and
not being thankful for those things that they

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have. You start getting yourself into
a habit of thinking positively, thinking whoever

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you want to thank for the beauty
of the day, for another day of

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life on this earth. If your
health is good, good health, or

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you're thinking of other people's health.
But you start off by being positive and

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then you try to start making that
a habit, and over time that power

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of positive thinking helps you manifest that
positivity in your life. Things may not

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seem so bad anymore, For things
that seem like giant problems are now minor

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problems, or they're just challenges to
work through. It. It's all about

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again we talked about deprogramming from all
the negativity that we surround ourselves with in

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our lives. Yes it, you
know, I like to call it living

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your life in ceremony. And if
we could shift into you know, what

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is ceremony? You know, what
does ceremony mean to you? Everyone?

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You know, each and every person
may have a different definition, but for

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me, that's what I would call
living in ceremony. So waking up,

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giving thanks to whoever it is that
you pray to or just acknowledge, and

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then moving into gratitude, you know, thanking the flowers like you were mentioning

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in you know, Colorado Spring,
the Garden of the Gods. That sounds

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magnificent. That is on my list. Thank you for that. Mark,

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Google it and look at the pictures. You'll, oh, I will.

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We can have a completely different conversation
altogether on Colorado and Boulder. That completely

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changed my life. And that's that's
actually in my first book, Awakening the

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Divine Soul. But back to living
our lives in ceremony, you know,

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acknowledging that plant, acknowledging that tree, saying oh you're so beautiful, thank

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you for the grace you're giving me
today, Touching the stones the rocks,

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putting your hands on them, feeling
the sun through them, saying thank you,

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I acknowledge you. And again for
you know, anyone that is skeptical

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or thinks this may be woo woo, because our society has gone a little

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bit. You know, everyone's an
overwhelm. Try it, try it.

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Come back to that gentle energy,
gentle energy of acknowledgment, acknowledging Mother Earth,

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acknowledging nature, hugging trees. So
yes, be a tree hugger.

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Why not try it, see what
happens. Try it for yourself and see

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what happens. And you know,
for those people who are deeply religious,

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whether all use Christianity as an example, because that's with my original background.

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This in no way is threatening to
your your religious beliefs or spiritual beliefs.

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Because if you're if you want to
honor God, if you want to have

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that connection with with God, with
Jesus, with Mohammad, with whoever it

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is that's important in your life from
a religious perspective, you still follow these

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these practices with them in mind,
and again you'll see you'll start to feel

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better. This isn't a religion.
This is not a religion. I'm so

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glad said that. Yes, uh, And there's no reason for anybody who

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is religious to feel threatened by it
because it's nature, God made nature.

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So everything in the natural world is
a part of our creator and having that

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connection with it is a good thing. It gets us away from all the

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man made bs that we're dealing with
every day. Right. Oh, absolutely,

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it's a way of being, you
know, it's not a religion at

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all. And again back to the
incredible, beautiful indigenous people throughout the whole

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world, the wisdom keepers, you
know, they know, they know the

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way, They've always known the way. So what is on your plate these

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days moving forward? And what is
your journey like as you move on from

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here? What? What what are
you going to be doing here in the

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near future. So right now I'm
working on my third book, which is

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the third installment of the series.
So we went from the first book,

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which was the prequel to my current
book, Enter the Journey, a Mystical

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Guide for Rebirth and Renewal. And
I am going to be handing in the

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manuscript for the third installment of this
series. I won't give away too much,

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but it takes place in India and
it's Yeah, another exciting journey,

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and I just want to share with
the listeners all of these books came about

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from shamanic journeys, meditation, and
journaling. For well, I've written in

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my diary since I was nine ten
years old, and I just want to

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share as well. I'm dyslexic and
I'm still a writer. So you know,

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for anyone who thinks that, oh
I could not possibly do you know

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this or that, or I can't
dream big because I can't possibly do it,

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I just want you to hear this
that you absolutely can do it.

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That we all have a purpose.
That if you align with your heart,

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your soul and call upon your beautiful
teachers, your spirit allies, whether they

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are power animals, spirit guides,
angels, archangels, departed loved ones,

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they are here for you and for
me. You know my background. I

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struggled most of my life and you
know I grew up in the hood,

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a single mom of five raising us. And these wonderful books, you know,

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have come through journeying and coming back
to self and trusting nature and my

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spirit allies. So yeah, so
that's what's on my plate right now,

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the third installment of the book.
I'm also a mother. So I have

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three kids, and you know,
I'm very very much there with them their

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journeys and helping with their purpose and
passion and creativity. And again coming back

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to that wonderful word that you brought
in, Mark, which is so spot

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on for right now. Balance.
So I'm honoring balance. I am inviting

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balance into my life so I can
complete these creative projects and continue to be

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a mother, a wife, and
a teacher, a student and to help

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00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:37,800
all my wonderful clients out there.
Fantastic, Well, Lexanna, thank you

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so much for coming on the show
today. And where can people find your

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book, Enter the Journey and Mystical
Guide for Rebirth and Renewal. So Enter

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the Journey is available through oh Books
and Collective Inc. And Amazon, Barnes

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00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:05,800
and Noble, Waterstones, H Smith
Chapters and Indigo and any other and all

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00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:10,519
other book outlets. And do you
have a website or a way for people

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to follow you or contact you?
Yeah? So my website is the Mystic

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Oracle dot com and my social media
Facebook and Instagram is under Rosanna Ayanko Wildflower.

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And if anyone has any questions,
please feel free to send me an

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email or message me on social media. I would be happy to answer any

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questions that you have, and I
also want to thank you so much Mark

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for inviting me. I've really enjoyed
this wonderful conversation with you, as have

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I thank you so much for coming
on, and I want to thank everybody

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for tuning into another edition of the
Paranormal UK Radio Show, the flagship show

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00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:06,840
here on the Paranormal UK Radio Network. And as I would usually ask Irene,

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where can people find us or responses
everywhere? People everywhere, And I

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do want to also mention, because
it's relatively new, we our podcasts are

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now available on audible for free,
so you can check that out as well.

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Everybody, thank you, have a
wonderful rest of your week. We'll

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be back next time with another great
show. Until then, to be good

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humans and we'll talk to you so
bye bye