WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:07.559 It's the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. Stuff went numb. That 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:09.439 shouldn't go numb. You know what I'm saying. And I was like, 3 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:12.480 what is it? No, I don't, No, you don't and co 4 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:16.960 Hols Marney Winfield. It was kind of an awkward thing. He's like, 5 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.480 would you guys want come along? Can you get away to come to the 6 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:28.120 island. I'm like, yeah, we just got back from there. It 7 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:33.280 is the eleventh of February twenty twenty four. My name is Cory Winfield. 8 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:37.079 My name's Marnie Winfield. And this is the two seventeen Recovery podcast. Super 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:43.640 Bowl Sunday. But you can't say Super Bowl who you can? Because I 10 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:46.799 mean whatever, we're not making money off this podcast and we're talking about real 11 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:49.719 life. Thanks super Bowl, right, it's on TV. So happened in 12 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:57.880 today? The Chiefs versus the forty nine? Who you got? I like 13 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:03.320 the Chiefsky It's just I've always favored that team except for when they're you know, 14 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.439 playing Buffalo, because that's who I like because that was my fantasy stack 15 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.799 had Buffalo players. Yeah, and you had some Chiefs players too. You 16 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.959 had Pachenko this year on your fantasy team. I did. I've had Pajenko 17 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:23.079 since he just started getting good, yeah, which was this year, which 18 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:25.959 is good. I had him last year. Yeah, he didn't really do 19 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.799 a whole lot last year until kind of the end. I don't if I 20 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:33.159 remember correctly, Like in the super Bowl he did really good and I was 21 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:34.480 like, Okay, now we see her. That's just coming out party. 22 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:40.040 And then because they had old Clyde Edwards Hilaire. When I say old, 23 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.040 I mean like twenty five, right, Yeah, but he's just kind of 24 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.159 not the guy they thought he was, I think. And pa Jenko is 25 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.480 good. He runs hard, and I think the difference tonight and everybody's like 26 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.719 San Francisco's got a defense, it's pretty good. Yeah, you can pass 27 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:59.799 on them. And what does Kansas City have. I don't know the best 28 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.719 ter back in the league right now. Who's going to catch the ball besides 29 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:09.159 Travis Kelce. That's to be debated because they do have some wide receiver issues. 30 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:13.639 But that Rice guy is pretty good and they got Kelsey and Pacenko can 31 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:15.960 catch the ball a little bit, so it'll be good. And I think 32 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:23.000 Kansas City's defense is actually better than San Francisco's defense. San Francisco has a 33 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.360 couple of guys that will sack you and all that stuff, But other than 34 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.719 that, I don't know sure. I mean, Detroit, look what they 35 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.280 did to him, right, you know, just Detroit forgot you had to 36 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.520 finish the game. Yeah, And I use that in analogies when I talk 37 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.000 to people now, like seriously, dude, like like you can put in 38 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.080 all the hard work you want, and I notice it and I get it. 39 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.599 But if you look around, everybody's talking about the fumble you did, 40 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:53.400 you know, like like I was like comparing it to his name, Gibbs, 41 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.759 the running back for Detroit, Like he had a great year, he 42 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.240 won them some games, you know, just on being a badass, and 43 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.479 then everybody talks about the football yep, you know. And same thing with 44 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.960 Reynolds who dropped the ball. You know, he could have had eighteen catches 45 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.560 in that game, but you still be talking about the one that was on 46 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.759 fourth and two and he dropped. Yeah, he was. He was doing 47 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.639 some amazing stuff last couple of games. I don't know if that's just like 48 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:28.400 the human nature of what or if it's the pain of the drop hurts more 49 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.319 than like catching eighteen ball. Of course he didn't catch eighteen balls. But 50 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:35.599 I'm just saying, like, is it the oh kicking the nuts that hurts 51 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.680 more than the celebration of yay? I think it's. I think it's easier 52 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:47.759 for people to find things that can where the outcome is due to placing blame 53 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:54.319 opposed to finding things that people did good to make a different outcome. It's 54 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:59.599 not collective when it's just something like that. When it's a win, it's 55 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.159 like, oh, everybody you know there, they can say these people shined, 56 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:09.439 but they don't win games or people that people like stuff like that isolated 57 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:12.680 events, they'll be like, that's what happened, that's why we lost because 58 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.199 he dropped that one ball. Yeah, but they will or he fumbled and 59 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:21.319 yeah, kickers get a bad rap two And it's like, okay, kicks 60 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:25.399 aren't guaranteed, and I don't care if it's from ten yards away, eighteen 61 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:28.040 yards away, something could happen to snap the whole. You know, like 62 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.560 there's so many different things that could that could go wrong, but people just 63 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:32.720 think it's a gimme, Oh, it was only twenty yard field goal, 64 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.920 he should hit that. Well, you know, there's a lot of factors 65 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:40.560 in it, and then people want to like throw it out there, like 66 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.000 the person came in like super drunk or hungover, or or he did something 67 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.399 on purpose to miss that kick. You know, well, if he wouldn't 68 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.839 have been out partying all night of the night before, maybe he was. 69 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:55.759 Maybe he wasn't. You know, sometimes you just miss things. It's not 70 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.639 like a guarantee. It's not like death, like hey, we're all gonna 71 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:01.040 die. It's guaranteed. You know, it's not a guarantee. It's a 72 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.360 sport. And yeah you might have fumbled, Yeah you might have dropped a 73 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:10.560 fourth and two pass, but it is what it is. And from that, 74 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.199 just like last year when the Lions didn't make the playoffs, you know, 75 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.639 they were close, and then they finished the year by beating Green Bay 76 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.279 and eliminating them from the playoffs. And that was Aaron Rodgers' last game with 77 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.079 the Packers, so that was kind of cool. But they built on that, 78 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.040 and they kind of built on like, Okay, we need to make 79 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.680 the playoffs next year because this doesn't feel good. Like, yeah, it 80 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.240 feel good to beat the Packers at the end to take Aaron Rodgers out or 81 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:36.680 whatever, but we want to be in the playoffs because we think we could 82 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.800 beat those teams. And so like when bad things happened to you, like 83 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:46.879 Homeboy dropping the ball gives fumbling lines, losing, they should learn from that 84 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.759 and never want to feel that pain again, you know. So maybe next 85 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.199 year, if they're up big at halftime, they can finish the job. 86 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:58.279 And I bet you they will, because again, that's how we learn. 87 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.639 So a lot of lion talk usually doesn't happen. You talk about Super Bowls, 88 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:10.279 right, that's funny. I was gonna hit a drop, but I 89 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:14.759 feared they didn't even need one, right, So yeah, so I think 90 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:16.120 that the Chiefs are going to win too, and and I'm kind of torn 91 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:21.199 because I'm a big Tom Brady fan and I don't want homes to have more 92 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:27.000 Super Bowl rings and Tom Brady. So it's gonna like pump the Brakes man, 93 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.439 I don't even think he's thirty yet. They calm down, bro well, 94 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.959 slow it down. But I'm not a big fan of San Francisco. 95 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:42.120 So yeah, I was gonna say, you never have been back when they 96 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:46.839 had Joe Montana that her real name, Joe Montana, Like I used to 97 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.560 like Joe Montana, but then they kind of did him dirty and had Steve 98 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.920 Young take over. But they won a Super Bowl that was their last one, 99 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:58.079 which was a long ass time ago. But yeah, we'll see what 100 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:02.240 happens tonight. Though I know I used to partake in a lot of alcohol 101 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.439 and Super Bowl Sunday back in my day, and I'm thankful I don't have 102 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:11.439 to do that today. You know, I can actually try to enjoy the 103 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.240 game or enjoy watching you sleep during the game, right, the best part 104 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.920 of it. And I think a couple of years ago we had a friend 105 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.439 over, I guess you could say, and you like did up the whole 106 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:27.160 spread. I think that was when the Chiefs played Tampa and Tom Brady was 107 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:33.680 twenty might have been one, maybe twenty one. Yeah, yeah, And 108 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:35.600 that was fun, and it's cool to have a lot of food. We 109 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.879 have more food than we probably needed. But it was kind of cool and 110 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.120 you were like a rock star with that. But this year's gonna be a 111 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:47.519 lot different. Yeah, yeah, but that's okay. I'm going to a 112 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:54.879 place called Redford, Michigan. You have wanted to call it all kinds of 113 00:07:54.920 --> 00:08:01.439 different names other than what it was called. What really red rock watch plants 114 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.839 and yeah, you were calling it all kinds of different names. Ever, 115 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:11.839 it's always called Redd. No, you were saying red Rock and you were 116 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:16.759 saying Rockford. I think at one time YE was gonna go, what do 117 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.319 you have such a difficult time remembering where this training's at? Ilmost just said 118 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.560 rhetor rock right then? I know, Yeah, we're staying in Lavonia, 119 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.800 I am I saying that right? So we're about in the Detroit area. 120 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:33.240 Yeah, and hopefully I go to that pancake house, that original pancake house 121 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.440 is what it's called. You said, jealous of that? Yeah, man, 122 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.440 they had this. It was good. First of all, we went 123 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.600 there with your mom once too. We did. We went there with the 124 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:45.279 crew and we went to that Lions game bringing back the Lions come on. 125 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.080 And they had First of all, the waistaff was great and the food was 126 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.320 pretty good. I don't recommend the big elephant ear pancake thing they had that 127 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.960 that really wasn't No, that wasn't so hip on that. But their pancakes 128 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.519 are delicious and they have this like bacon thing it comes with like you get 129 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.440 hash browns, I think scrambled eggs, pancakes like eight pieces of bacon. 130 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.440 Yeah, we talked about it before we talked about it. Yeah, it 131 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.720 was amazing and it was thick cut bacon. It was so good. Yeah, 132 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:18.320 I love that place. So hopefully I think we're close enough for I 133 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.879 can pop in there and Adam's going with us because we're doing recovery coach training, 134 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.919 which you're like, Corey, haven't you taken this? Mm hm yep 135 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.919 couple times. But the difference here is this is the state's training. Yeah, 136 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:33.200 you're like, well, isn't that the same training? Yes, I've 137 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.120 heard of it is pretty much exactly the same, but I have not taken 138 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:43.759 it. But we're a nonprofit organization and we work off of grants, and 139 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:48.320 in order to use these grants, you have to have people like Adam, 140 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:54.200 Like Justin's already certified with the state, Adam is not. So Adam's going 141 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.480 with this training as well. Mitch is going I think next month, And 142 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.000 once you get certified, then you can be trained to from the state and 143 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.440 then you can use state money to pay for the you know, you can 144 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.000 use grant money to pay these people's salaries. And then I'm going because there 145 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:13.080 was some kind of certified certifications super duper something I figured out. I want 146 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.799 give me some of that. I don't even know what I just said, 147 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.399 and it's fake anyway. It was a whole lot of words with no real 148 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:26.720 like definition of what it was you're going for. Yeah, so you get 149 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:33.279 what I'm saying. No, but I have to do that and somehow. 150 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.639 Okay, So if I hire somebody or we hire somebody and they come along, 151 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.480 we have to have someone who is state certified in order to like certify 152 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.480 that. Yeah, there you go. You know, like, hey, 153 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:50.399 you're under me, Like, let me three reports. It's like being supervised. 154 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.399 Yeah, that's kind of why I'm doing it. Plus I have a 155 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.200 few things I would like to get off my chest. I get there, 156 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.600 look out. That's the thing about being unforgettable. It's not always a good 157 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:09.879 thing. Oh it's not. Sometimes it's bad. We went to the Verizon 158 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:11.879 the other day and walk in and I was like, yeah, She's like, 159 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.080 oh, yeah, I remember you. I don't know if it was 160 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.440 that apparent, but and you said, is that bad thing? And she's 161 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.720 like, eh, no, neither neither here nor there. Not really, 162 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.799 Yeah it wasn't a good thing. It was. Yeah, well I'm sure 163 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.279 they I'm sure that a place like that has a lot of disgruntled people that 164 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.080 come in, so well, they made us sway for the half hour. 165 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.440 Then they told us that they couldn't help us. Actually, I think it 166 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.080 was like forty five minutes. I was like what some would drive back to 167 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.440 work and then the Robin guy who I had spoken to, calls me on 168 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:46.120 the phone was like, hey, man, we can help you. I 169 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.320 was like, oh, okay, well I was just there and they told 170 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.600 me you kind of oh no, no, no, they didn't understand blah 171 00:11:50.600 --> 00:12:00.000 blah blah. Okay, so that we got team caraff But being unforgettable, 172 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.639 that's what I'm I'm not setting out to do that at this training, but 173 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.279 there's just a lot of things that I have questions about and I want to 174 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.759 bring it to light in front of everybody because I hear a lot of things 175 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:11.759 that and Okay, here it is. I'll break it down for your real 176 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:18.360 simple Not everybody needs to be in recovery. Right there, you go, 177 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:24.279 done, Mike done. Now, I'm not saying everybody can't be in recovery, 178 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.679 but it seems like everybody wants to be in recover. Everybody wants to 179 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:30.559 say there in recovery. Everybody wants to go drink on the weekend, smoke 180 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.200 pot all the time and say they're in recovery wolves because it's not my drugg 181 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.200 of choice. Okay, let me break it down for you real quick. 182 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.080 This. So I've tried meth, I've tried a heroin. That's not my 183 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:45.120 drug of choice. Alcohol was So I'm not drinking alcohol. But if I 184 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:46.399 want to do some meth on the weekend, I should be fine. Right, 185 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.519 it's not my drug of choice. I'm in recovery. When I say, 186 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.440 am like to me, that makes no sense, you know. And 187 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.440 again there's nothing. If somebody wants smoke meth on the weekend, go do 188 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.840 it, you know. But I'm telling you is a bad choice. But 189 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:05.320 you don't have to say you're in recovery, right, you can just say, 190 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.840 hey, you know, I don't drink anymore, right, you know. 191 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:11.759 But if they want to include everybody, I don't know if it's a 192 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:16.080 money thing, Like if everybody that was just hey, completely off every single 193 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.840 thing, they're like, oh, we only have eight people in the Holy 194 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.639 America that does that. Because you want to bring it down to every little 195 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.799 thing, sugar, everything, it would probably be eight people in the whole 196 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.879 nation, but to include everybody. They oh, well, if you do 197 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.000 that or you do you know whatever, it's harm reduction using air quotes, 198 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:37.000 then that's fine, you know, that's cool, and that's better. It's 199 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.240 better to do this than this. And that's the thing too, is harm 200 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.840 reduction is such a wide thing. Like when I say harm reduction, people 201 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.639 might be like, oh cool, we are your passing out needles, and 202 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.320 other people like, oh wait, hold on, that's medicated. That's as 203 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.679 sister treatment, you know, medicated, a sister treatment. That's kind of 204 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:54.879 harm reduction too. But there's so different spectrums of the passing out needles to 205 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.720 take in some boxin to be taken vivitrol, but it's lumped into harm reduction. 206 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.960 So when you say it, what does it even mean? You like? 207 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.519 Those are the things I would really love to get down, like to 208 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:07.759 a science to just like what does it mean? And again, not everybody 209 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.559 needs being recovery, right, you know, if you're smoking weed on the 210 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.840 weekend or doing whatever, if you're doing a mind altering substance. But I 211 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.279 do it from my back and I don't care. It doesn't matter what you're 212 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.639 doing it for. It's not the point of it, you know, to 213 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:24.879 confuse somebody who's early in recovery. Safe if, for instance, somebody comes 214 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.080 to our two seventeen recovery center and they want to hit a meeting on the 215 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.440 weekend. They come in and say, we got somebody that's leading in a 216 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:35.840 group that you know what they drink because their problem was I don't know, 217 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:41.840 just to say pills or something, you know, And so they're like, 218 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:43.960 oh, no, my thing was pills, and say the person that's coming 219 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:46.720 there was like, oh, well my thing was heroin. Oh yeah, 220 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:50.159 well still I drink, is what's what they're teaching people at these meetings. 221 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.000 Oh I know, I get drunk all the time, you know, And 222 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.240 that's fine. That's not my thing. That wasn't my problem. So then 223 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.799 the person comes in early in recovery and it's like, well if soon as 224 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:05.720 they're leading a group here at this awesome two seventeen recovery center and they're saying 225 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.679 they drink, well shit, my thing was hair, So I can drink 226 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.039 then, and again they can do whatever the f they want to. I'm 227 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.360 telling you it's not a good IDEA. Buddy of mine right now is in 228 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.399 treatment because he thought, well, hey, hair. One's my thing, 229 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.200 so I can drink. No, he found out he could not, and 230 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:28.200 he went so hardcore with that. And I'm so proud of him for catching 231 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.480 himself because I kind of knew it was going on. But there's nothing I 232 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.080 can do about it. And I don't hate him for it. You know, 233 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:37.919 I'm not going to never talk to him again, but I'm glad he's 234 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.679 at where he's at, and I'm glad he caught himself and realized, WHOA, 235 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.279 this is getting out of control. I cannot stop. I need help, 236 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:48.039 And I'm proud of him for that. But a lot of people I've 237 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:52.360 known several and I don't want to start calling out names, but there were 238 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.879 some people that were really close to me that did you know, the same 239 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.279 thing. And one of them said, Corey, I don't know how you 240 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.480 alcoholics do it, and said, what are you talking about? He's like 241 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.360 this withdrawal, It's like it's ten times worse than anything I ever dealt with 242 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:10.840 with heroin. I was like, yeah, then, you guys that was 243 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.639 give them shit because at treatment centers people well, Doupe sick, man, 244 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.279 Doupe sick. I'm like, yeah, well, I was just sick. 245 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.600 As an mfort and volume. Not nothing they gave me did anything. Of 246 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:27.519 course, maybe probably because the liver failure thing, but like it was horrible. 247 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.279 So people like, hey, take this antibuse. You're gonna get real 248 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.519 sick if you drink. I'm like, shit, I'm gonna get real sick 249 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:34.600 if I drink anyway, Like what are you talking about? Like I'm not 250 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.200 drinking, Like, sick doesn't scare me, right, death doesn't scare me. 251 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.600 It's at one point I was welcoming it. Come on, come on, 252 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.519 come on, I can't do any of this. I can't figure it 253 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.840 out. It's the easy way out. Not even that wasn't even an easy 254 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.279 way out. Well, I think there's the one piece that I can see 255 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.759 where why people want so badly to be able to relate where they're at with 256 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:59.559 the word recovery is because recovery is has a positive connotation to it. It 257 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:03.880 is a very strength based word and very productive word. And for somebody who 258 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:08.680 struggled with something, and everybody's got a different story. But like you said, 259 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:14.720 let's say it's heroin, let's say it's math, and like they were 260 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.160 on the down and outs, like they were literally like like buying you know, 261 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:25.400 drugs every cent out of their pocket, homeless, sick, you know, 262 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.759 partaking in illegal activities to be able to feed their drug habit whatever. 263 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:34.920 And they actually managed to kick that, right, They actually manage to get 264 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.279 that piece out of the eliminate that out of their life, is the use 265 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:44.839 of heroin or math or whatever it is they're talking about. And so they 266 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.240 so they know that that's their downfall, they know that's their doc and that's 267 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.000 what gets them, and they don't ever want to get back to that pit. 268 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.839 And you're right, like switching to alcohol, people think, oh, 269 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:57.720 we alcohol is my problem. So I mean I can get I can get 270 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:02.359 drunk every once in a while, I can have some cocktails or whatever obviously 271 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.640 for me and you know, same messaging as you is. I wouldn't recommend 272 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:11.319 it because we know people who have tried to use that switch, arou and 273 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:17.440 it never works out well. And so knowing that, but they still want 274 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:22.400 to hang on to that piece of but what was killing me and what when 275 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:27.559 my life was so bad? I've eliminated that part, Like I don't do 276 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:32.279 that anymore, you know, So it's hard I think for them to not 277 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:37.599 want to still say I'm in recovery because as much as they want that heroin 278 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.720 or as much as they want that math, they're not doing it. So 279 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:47.720 to them, they feel like that translates to being in recovery. Might not 280 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.720 down the road, right, alcoholic go to heroin and meth in the weekend, 281 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.079 is what I'm saying. No, I get what you're saying. I 282 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.000 get what you're saying. I'm just saying that's I feel like illal no, 283 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.480 But I feel like that's why they feel like, didn't they earn don't they 284 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.000 didn't they earn that word to be able to use that word since they were 285 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:10.119 shooting up with you know, needles, you know, cooking up cooking up 286 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:14.079 heroin and you know, shooting it into their veins, and now they're not, 287 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.440 Like, don't they deserve to be able to use that word? I 288 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:21.039 think is where Yeah, and if they if they want to, that's fine, 289 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.200 But like, I don't think that you should be able to like start 290 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:27.559 doing other drugs as a replacement for that drug that you used and then still 291 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.039 say like, oh, I'm in recovery. I completely, I completely, 292 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.359 I'm on the same I'm saying, like everybody, I mean, that's great, 293 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.039 if they want to do that. And people can do whatever they want. 294 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.240 It's the beauty of life. You get that choice. But I'm just 295 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.480 saying that everybody has to say they're in recovery. They can say they're they 296 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.039 don't use heroin anymore. Yeah, you know, like, well, don't 297 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.559 use the word clean. They'll tell you too, because that's a negative thing. 298 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:49.000 I don't whatever you want to use, use it. If you want 299 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.680 to be a giraft say you're a giraffe. If you want to, well, 300 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.160 I wouldn't say have sex with animals, because that's illegal. But I 301 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:00.000 don't care what other people do, is my point. But at the same 302 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.039 time, I care enough to think, like, okay, if that whole 303 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.440 setting I put it in. You know, if somebody comes into the meeting 304 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:08.160 and they might have the same drug of choice, it would say it was 305 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.079 pills, like I said earlier, and they hear the person that's running the 306 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.240 meeting or someone at the meeting talking about, oh no, no, I 307 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.039 just don't do pills anymore. But I smoke weed, you know, I 308 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.920 drink time drunk every weekend and say I do hear that? Yeah, But 309 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.640 then the newcomer comes in and goes oh, well, shit, I can 310 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:27.000 do this right, because I was one of those people thinking, oh, 311 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.200 I'll just smoke weed right, and here, here, here in lies the 312 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.039 problem. Here's here I'm thinking, this is where you're going with this. 313 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:40.000 Here's you headed off to this training about being a recovery coach. Now, 314 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.519 what is a recovery coach? There's different definitions of what people think that that 315 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:48.920 rule serves, but in essence, you are kind of walking with someone through 316 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:53.960 their journey of recovery. And so when you're stuck in this thing of what 317 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.920 is the definition of recovery, when that part is muddled, then that gets 318 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:04.759 very dangerous because here you are trying to mentor somebody saying, this is how 319 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.440 it is that you can get your life back together. These are the steps 320 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:12.279 that you can take to or the things you should do or not should or 321 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:17.240 shouldn't do, not so much as like rules, but like these are the 322 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:22.559 ways where you'll find yourself to a better life. Those answers to that for 323 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:26.480 me as a recovery coach is I mean, I am a certified recovery coach 324 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:32.759 amongst other certifications, but that's irrelevant. Is I don't want my messaging to 325 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:37.720 be to somebody who's trying to get clean to say, but hey, go 326 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.680 ahead and you can get drunk and high on the weekends as long as you're 327 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:47.000 not doing the heroin you're doc or whatever or swip swap. You can smoke 328 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.480 some meth when you go to parties, but as long as you're not drinking. 329 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:56.200 Because we know alcohol's advice. I can't, in my heart of hearts, 330 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:03.000 be a coach guiding somebody and have that be my messaging. Yeah, 331 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:06.680 I'm right there with you, and that's why. And I hear it so 332 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.279 many times from all over the place, coming sideways, coming from behind, 333 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.599 like just everywhere, and I think people are just making another thing. That's 334 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:18.279 why I'm very interested to learn of what's being taught at the state training and 335 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.480 if if that's the whole messaging thing. I act to have some questions, 336 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:29.240 you know, I'm really really having questions, and it I'm trying to think 337 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:37.359 about how to say it. I think you said it best with the whole 338 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.200 I don't want that to be my messaging. And technically they can't say anything 339 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.319 about that because everybody's in recovery. When you say recovery, blah blah blah 340 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.319 blah, but you have all these things, and then you know, just 341 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.359 defining and I doubt we're going to define harm reduction this weekend. But you 342 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.839 know, the classifications of it, you know, are so broad. In 343 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.920 recovery is so broad, and I think they do that to just include more 344 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.720 people so they can say, well, there's forty eight million people in recovery, 345 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.920 because it looks better when they're trying to get bills passed or they're trying 346 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:11.119 to get money from places, and they're just like, there's eight people in 347 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.519 America that need your help. Well, and that's the funny thing too, 348 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.799 is the government does not care about us. They don't care about our health. 349 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.519 They care about our money. That's all they care about. That's facts. 350 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.759 Okay, yeah, just keep me post it. Oh that's facts. 351 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.799 That's what it is. And to think that the government is going to get 352 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.359 you out of it or help you out or because they care, they don't. 353 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.200 They just they want the money man, and they want to not spend 354 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.720 money on you. And people think, oh, they pass out clean needle 355 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.000 so that people don't get sick. No, no, no, they pass 356 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.079 out clean needle so they don't have to pay it to fix people who have 357 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.680 FC, people who have HIV. They don't want to fix that. It's 358 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.160 expensive. They don't care about people living. They care about not fixing people, 359 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.799 not having to pay to fix people. That's it. If they really 360 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.319 care, they would have passed out needles a long ass time ago. And 361 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.680 some people say this shouldn't pass out on needles at all, you know, 362 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.440 And I'm not even getting on that conversation right now. Oh man, this 363 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.839 is I mean that can roll intel. Yeah, because if you provide, 364 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.359 it makes it easier to do or it's like you're encouraging the behavior blah blah, 365 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:15.480 just like handing out condoms like go have sex people. No, that's 366 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.559 not what they're saying, but you know, so, yeah, those are 367 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:26.119 the those are the things that come along with that whole debate. Yeah, 368 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:27.599 I'm jealous. I'm jealous. So you go onto this training, I think 369 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.200 it's gonna be I think you're gonna learn. I think I think you're gonna 370 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.480 learn things in a different light, I hope, because it's gonna be different 371 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.759 people. Because a lot of the trainings we go to kind of seem to 372 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.839 be the same people. So maybe this is going to be a different crew 373 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.079 and it's going to be different people that are going to be at different levels 374 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:51.839 of professionalism. I think probably because they're all they're all going for jobs. 375 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.000 It is my guess right to be able to work as as have this be 376 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:00.720 their profession. Maybe yeah, well you have to feel and let me get 377 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:07.240 what I'm saying. That was the wrong drop. I love social media. 378 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.599 That was the wrong one too. Okay, yeah, just keep me post 379 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:17.200 it. That's the one I was looking for. Okay, yeah, I 380 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:22.799 will. But I just hope that I hope that is good, and I 381 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.640 think it will be for the most part. And again, you know, 382 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.519 these are people that are trying to help other people, and that's that's what 383 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.240 I'm a huge fan of. And people helped me along along the way, 384 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.920 even though sometimes I didn't want it. And even early on when I was 385 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.240 pushing people away, I was hearing what they were saying. I just didn't 386 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.759 want to change my life. I thought I had it all figured out and 387 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.519 I could still do what I wanted to do. And then, you know, 388 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.240 like I said, like trying to substitute other drugs for it, Oh 389 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.480 well, I just won't drink, I'll just smoke potter. Oh it's meth. 390 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.759 Well it's not alcohol, yeah, which actually I was drunk when I 391 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.799 just did every other drug ever. Right, So, but that alcohol is 392 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:03.079 very dangerous drug and you see commercial and to me, in my opinion, 393 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.440 it's the most dangerous. And now that marijuana in Michigan is legal, you 394 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.119 know that that's kind of a scary thing too, because people think that that's, 395 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:12.640 oh, it's just weed, you know, Oh, it's just just 396 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:18.039 alcohol. Well they don't maybe they do. Know, they just started telling 397 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.240 you, like the long term effects of smoking weed. You know, I'm 398 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.200 sure is not good, right, you know, it's just like eating too 399 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.720 much ice cream. It's not good for you. You know, there's so 400 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.200 many different vices. But why are you using it? And what are you 401 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.759 trying to do? Well? I just like to get home and after work 402 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.799 and on why not just smoke a bowl and get high? And Okay, 403 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.519 which when are they gonna are they going to make any connection to like the 404 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.400 smoking piece of like inhaling. I mean, it's not tobacco, But are 405 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.359 they ever going to make that connection like it's not good for your lungs? 406 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.519 Well, see that's the thing. They have a lot of the money to 407 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:56.920 not have those reports published because it's tobacco company that's behind all these marijuana places 408 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.799 that are opening and people, some people don't even realize that they're on board 409 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.480 being a dispensary. Yeah you do. I was doing taxes yesterday and it's 410 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:08.039 like, wait, what damn like buying a house being awesome? Nope, 411 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.359 I was looking for that. Awesome. Are you awesome? Here's a tax 412 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.160 break for you? Nope, none of that. But if you open a 413 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.440 dispensary, then yeah, we can get it from the state. I was 414 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.079 like, wait, what some bullshit? How about we were in a recovery 415 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:26.119 place, but never mind cares who cares about that? We got the weed 416 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.160 people coming in. But no, it is about being backed by tobacco, 417 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:34.079 and they're all about that, and they're going right that connect. See I'm 418 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:41.599 smoking this morning. I see what happens kids. Just kidding. I was 419 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:47.920 not smoking weed this morning. I was gonna make a really really bad joke 420 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.319 about what I could have been doing with my throat being that way. I'm 421 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.200 not gonna that's what's up. You know what I'm saying. I know what 422 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:04.039 you're saying. But anyway, the uh, the temptations for everything are out 423 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:08.119 there and for people just to normalize. It is when when it gets bad, 424 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.039 when you normalize, we do normalize alcohol, and we'll see what happens. 425 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:15.960 They were I was reading some stuff about why people go to the emergency 426 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:22.160 room. What drug sends people to the emergency room the most? Did you 427 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.640 hear that podcast? I didn't think. So what drug you think is number 428 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:33.599 one? Alcohol? Yep? Yeah, forty damn it. You might have 429 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.480 to go back and listen to the podcast it with justin what do you know 430 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:41.599 what anyone that is from uh this last week? Two ago, two weeks 431 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.799 too, podcasts ago? Maybe, Okay, I don't think it wasn't it 432 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.880 wasn't one just we just did on Friday. It wasn't that one. But 433 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.759 no, it was like forty four, forty six, forty eight percent. 434 00:28:53.319 --> 00:29:00.880 Yeah it was alcohol. Yeah. And the next one heroin. It might 435 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.200 have been at like twelve percent. Yeah. And then the third one I 436 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:10.200 think was marijuana. Marijuana, Yeah, really getting out of town yep? 437 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:15.000 Wow, yeah, I mean the natch the from the earth, from the 438 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.720 earth, like it don't it's not it's not bad, it's not. It's 439 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.960 good for you. Yeah, go go smoke that stuff that just grows from 440 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.640 the earth. That's gonna be different. Jeez o, Pete, you're sneezing 441 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:34.759 this morning. I got like hot throat h So yeah, but the stuff 442 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.160 now though, they do a lot of stuff to it, so you're thinking, 443 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.240 oh man, it's natural, like you got You should have stopped saying 444 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:47.759 that, like twenty years ago. Yeah, yep, for real. But 445 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.319 anyway, you can do whatever you want in your life. But for me, 446 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.759 my life is so much better not smoking weed, not trying to do 447 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.319 meth on the weekend, heroin on the week not drinking. You know, 448 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:07.160 I took opiates for when I had stomach pain that almost got out of control. 449 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.200 But I realized it and I checked myself and I started writing it down. 450 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:11.359 But I took precautions. I worked with my doctor. She would only 451 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.000 give me a week script at a time. And I mean, I still 452 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.559 had some stomach pain not too long ago, I remember, But you know, 453 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.720 it's it's about working with the people and talking and communicating, you know, 454 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.319 with your doctors about it. And then I wasn't running around trying to 455 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.359 buy stuff on the streets or anything like that. But some people would say, 456 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.640 oh, Corey, look at you. You're just talking about being in 457 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.640 recovery, but then using the stuff and de to Dor and you just said 458 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.920 I spoke weed from my dear to Dor. I know I'm talking in circles, 459 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:44.559 but I actually had something removed from my body. So yeah, like 460 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.640 I was in a lot of pain. Yeah, and I'm not a fan 461 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.039 of pain. Well that's what I said about my back of my Marijuona. 462 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.519 Yeah, I know, but again I said, people can do whatever they 463 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.400 want, so but for me, it worked out better though, to just 464 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.000 not do stuff and to just be present in life. And I maybe it's 465 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.559 because I had been gone for so long. You know. There's a song 466 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:17.200 by Ben Howard keep your Head Up, I believe where he's talking about seeing 467 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.799 his friend and his friend looking in his eyes and he had told his friend 468 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.640 he had been gone a while, and he's like, yeah, I know, 469 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.720 you know, but that's what I kind of feel. Like I had 470 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:30.599 been gone for so long I wasn't present, and now to be present too, 471 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.920 you know, to have you, you know, a beautiful wife of 472 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.000 my life and a baby on the way. You know, like I'm going 473 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.799 to be present for all that. That is cool as ship and we have 474 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.240 to go through hell. Yep, we did, and our stories are similar 475 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:51.160 but very different. But to be where we're at now and to appreciate a 476 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:56.279 morning where you wake up you know, it's it's it's amazing and actually have 477 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.799 plans for the future. Yeah, you know, it's it's an amazing thing 478 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:05.079 and something I never had, you know. And past five years it's been 479 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.720 work. You know, a lot of people don't like the word work. 480 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.960 I usually don't, but it's fun work, it's good work. You're working 481 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.240 on yourself. It's the best kind of work that you can do. So 482 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.400 just do that, and you know, try to leave up leave it up 483 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.759 to me to get into the arguments of other people while recovery that recovery and 484 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.240 blah blah blah. It's not really even an argument. It's more of like 485 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.920 I want clear direction, you know. And like I said earlier, there's 486 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.960 so many people throwing out different things, and well they said this, this 487 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.559 is what they say, and it'll be good to hear it from people who 488 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.400 are at the state level, you know, teaching this training. And if 489 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.480 they have this is why we do this, And I will raise my hand 490 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.079 and say why. And if there's no explanation, I will take a note 491 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.160 and then when I go by to talk to Gretch. That's why I call 492 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:59.480 her Gretch. I mean Gretch, go way back, say hey, Gretch, 493 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:00.680 is what I got. That's what we need to change. And then 494 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:06.119 let's talk about gambling. Oh that we don't even have enough time talking about 495 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.839 that, right in addiction. So, yeah, don't bet on the super 496 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.799 Bowl. See how pissed off the state gets. If you really if you 497 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.920 really want to piss people off, you know, I say, don't do 498 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.000 crimes, especially people like I don't like the cops. Well, don't come 499 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.160 in any crimes. Yeah, we'll do away with them. And then don't 500 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.160 gamble. Don't bet on tonight's game. Still get so much money on that 501 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.319 and all these other places, you know, get billions. I can't remember 502 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.279 the number I heard the other day. It was like it was over one 503 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:39.680 hundred billion dollars. And we tell people they can't go to sober living, 504 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.920 which is like six hundred bucks a month because we don't have enough money. 505 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:50.079 Shut the f up. We got homeless people living in the woods. Yeah, 506 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.920 we don't have enough money. Again, back to my circle around to 507 00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:00.279 the government doesn't care about you, So vote Winfield governor. I'm telling me 508 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.559 somebody old Sarah Bush told me. She's like, I'd vote for you for 509 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:07.359 governor. Wow. I know. She's like, you get stuff done. 510 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:13.119 I'm like, yes, I would. Yeah, it's coming soon. I 511 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:19.039 just need sixty thousand signatures. So my mom, Marnie, I wonder how 512 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.199 old I have to be. We'll get baby Parker to sign it. Tyrone's 513 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.880 on board. I know that, so you know I make Justin mich I 514 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.639 mean, we get about ten people start your mom, I don't know. 515 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.719 Well, I'm gonna get to that leader. Just email it Tommy, like 516 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.440 three weeks there. I'm like, Emmy, are you going to sign that? 517 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:46.199 Well? You know, I was thinking, Ah. I love my 518 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:53.320 mother in law though I don't think she likes me, but she loves you. 519 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.679 Anyway. I have to go get on the road. But enjoy the 520 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.320 game. Hopefully enjoy this podcast. Some of the stuff I say is absolutely 521 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.400 serious, some of it is absolutely not. You got to decipher through the 522 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.320 rest. But appreciate you listening. Share it with your friends. Two seventeen 523 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.360 recovery dot Com. If you need more info, if you need help, 524 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.599 you need a recovery coach, hit us up. Watch the videos. Justin 525 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:19.679 has new clone commercial out called Fabulous, And if you haven't seen Mitch's Bear 526 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:27.599 commercial, that one is a take on Blue by d Chanelle which they spell 527 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.480 blue b l EU, which is the play on bear. So all those 528 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:36.159 videos everything online, they're on the app as well, so enjoy that. 529 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.599 I have a good laugh and they're not very long. So talk to you 530 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.360 maybe from the road. Yeah, I have a wonderful Sunday. Everyone. 531 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.639 Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. We hope you come back 532 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.400 for our next episode.