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You are Ugde Intergalactic Air. Oh
hi Daub, longtime listener, first time

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caller. It's so nice to see
you and shisk. I've been active with

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the Palladian Earth Initiative for decades.
As a matter of fact, I'll be

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teaching some of them physics tonight,
and I just wanted to say thank you

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for all the good work you're doing. I know I'm donating and I'm giving

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it my all, as are me
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Thank you, Thank you caller.
We are very happy to hear from

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the plane m M. To give
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donation sick to protect. We now
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form of see game. Just a
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word she took the midnight Jack and
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I think that Midnight trains going nowhere. The humans typically drink a lot of

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liquor before engaging in this custome god. And don't don't stop playing, don't

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stop playing this episode. Hey,
everybody, I'm living Flora. Are you

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sure? No, I'm on a
journey and I am shit. I'm Dave

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Stecco. That hurt the boy photos
That really hurts my neck, not even

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just my throat, like my whole
neck. You just have to get tight

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to make that sound. Well.
You gotta make sacrifices in order to bring

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bring the people what they want.
It's so true. And this is what

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you want. You want protection,
yeah, from everything that's out to get

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you. Yeah, and we're he
probably didn't realize you need a protection,

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and that's why we're here. We
both create the problem and offer the solution

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at a modest markup of free.
Yeah. I hope you're doing well.

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Yeah, happy late spring, early
summer to you. I hope I know

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that my mom is digging out of
a snowfall in Colorado, because that's just

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how May goes out there. Wow, Yep, we have a lot to

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talk about. I mean, David, are we gonna be able to fiddle

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this into just one episode. Yeah, I think we can do it.

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Okay, then let's let's try it. Foreshadowing sound. I've got one of

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those. I know you do,
I know you do. I've been listening

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to old episodes and I've been remembering
some of the sounds that we've had.

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Yeah, you'll probably just make a
new one rather than try to find No,

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I will not. Oh no,
I'm I'm getting ready. I'm still

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I'm in Ireland right now. Oh
that's right. But when we're recording this,

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I am getting ready, which means
I have to edit like a month

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it's worth of episodes. Yeah,
so that I can release them regularly.

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No, we're not going to be
able to fit everything into one episode.

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Yeah, you suckers. You got
yourself a dose partner dose patrony, which

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we didn't plan on it being,
but once we started doing the research on

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this thing, it kind of landed
at our feet. Yeah. You,

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I don't think you understood the precarious
razor's edge that we, as a species

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being human beings live on because we
we all like the righteous man who is

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beset on all sides by the tyranny
of extraterrestrials. And you will know my

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name is bashaw when I lay my
dolphin down before ye oh gosh. So

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we're going to talk about to um
decent sized episodes. We're gonna talk about

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alien taxonomy. Yep, you know
it because you already read the episode title.

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But yeah, we did ghost taxonomy
and we thought, oh, alien

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taxonomy, how many how many different
men are there? Yeah? A lot?

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Turns out there's a lot. And
as I was going through, I

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told Dave, I said, there's
a lot of cool stuff to set it

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up with, just a lot of
things that could tie in without even going

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into the deep end of the pool. Yeah, what became oh, this

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will be our brief intro became oh, this could actually be its own episode,

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and yeah, which became it could
be two episodes exactly. So so

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to kick things off, let's let's
just start about I mean, you know,

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we always talked about how we would
never do um like we don't we

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don't do like episodes on UFOs or
sightings or abductions or any rodswell. Yeah,

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So this is this is going to
be as close as we tangentially get

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to that, and we're gonna we're
gonna sweep a lot of it up in

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this net yep. Um. So
yeah, So I think to start off,

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let's just talk about the concept of
extraterrestrial life. Right, are they

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out there? What are they doing? And how you know? How many

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of them are they out there?
And and why why are we still wondering

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right out there? Right? I've
got I've got a list of things to

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hit on throughout the course of two
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We'll just generally define an alien,
like what is an alien? What's

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defined as other life? If he
took her jobs then ye dude, I'm

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all about pronunciation. You got it
wrong. It's Turker Tucker Jerve or if

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you're in a rush to We're also
gonna I've found a couple of polls for

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how many people believe in aliens.
Oh, I'm gonna throw that in there.

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We've got Henech's scale of close encounters, nice, very fun thing alien

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encounters throughout history. I've just got
a peppering where we won't because who's got

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time one of these things we're going
to talk about. I told Dave it's

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like aliens just in general is like
the rainforest of subject matter. Yeah,

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like we there's a huge amount of
resources, but it is finite, but

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you know, there's a lot of
stuff. We're still patch of it just

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to do whatever we want. Oh
displaced, play display some native peoples while

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we're at it. Please stop clear
cutting the Amazon watch medicine man, say

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the reinforced other things. I don't
know, I'm just are you doing?

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Shut up? Have you ever seen
medicine man? No? Really, Sean

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Connery and that that chick oh with
the ants cure cancer? Something like that

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they eat his sugar and they cure
cancer. Yeah, like they spit in

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a bunch of stuff and yeah something
and he slides down and I don't know.

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It's a good movie. All them
on now dog whatever. But we're

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also going to talk about the Drake
equation and Firm's paradox. So my actual

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physicists take on extraterrestrial life, and
then we're goners not not the not Drake

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the Rapper spoilers. Then we're going
to go through different types of aliens,

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yes, races, species, whatever
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get into the racial profiles of aliens. Uh, and we might let off

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it. We might top it all
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talk about you know, what what
a way you do aliens want from us?

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What would they would they be doing
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You know, I forgot to say
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it now. And even though it
doesn't fits uh as far as that intro

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goes, that was one of those
that might not be too easy for you

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to listen to, but it was
a hell of a lot more. It

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was fun for us to do.
So that's why that happened that way when

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loose up listener. Also, I
toned down my voice from the Bhutanese passport.

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Yeah, well it's it's a great
voice. It's just I understand doing

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an Asian accent. You can't do
it. You can't do it, shouldn't

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do it, won't do it.
How about we start out here? Okay,

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we get we get everybody on board
with what an alien is. And

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it's important. You wouldn't think these
these this definition part would be important,

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but it is. It becomes very
weird later on, as as all things

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do. Now when we say alien, just right off the bad, of

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course, we're talking about an extraterrestrial
something that is is um at any life

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which does not originate from Earth.
Alien is kind of the uh, the

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the layman's term for extra terrestrial.
Yep. But since you got all this

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political talk about you know what,
what can and can't be coming into the

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country, and then you've got it, you can't say alien anymore. And

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I don't feel like saying extraterrestrial.
So just know we're talking about Yeah,

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we're gonna say et s huh.
I'm not saying ets. I'm saying aliens.

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All right, We'll say aliens or
ets, and no one is going

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to get offended. Yeah, cucolo, sound it's such a thing even possible?

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Yes it is, Yes it is. Please, yeah, begging you.

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So this could be anything from bacteria
or viruses to sentient complex beings.

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Yep. The field of study for
what may or may not be extraterrestrial life

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in all its forms is called exobiology, and that's something that we're not going

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to focus on a little bit.
Last time you're gonna hear that word.

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Yeah, we're gonna be talking about
complex beings that supposedly originate from anywhere but

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Earth. Yeah. These are the
These are the the organized senti and races

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of extraterrestrial entities that are uck in
with our ship. Right whether for our

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benefit or contrary wise, although it's
very interesting to think that even a even

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a little strain of bacteria could be
considered extraterrestrial. Well in it and it

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should be because it has I mean, just just to us the Native Americans,

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what happens when a few extra microbes
start mixing in? Oh yeah,

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it can get bad quickly. So
just even even a non native bacterium could

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easily rule this planet or cause life
to spring forth on the planet if there's

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nothing on it but a warm,
shallow sea. True. True, You

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know what if it turns us all
into those uh what are those? What

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are those fungus? Zombies? Clickers? What from the Last of Us?

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Did you ever play that game?
That? I never did either, but

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if they had, you know what
the flood from Palo Yeah, that's the

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premise of that game if you'd never
played it, which I haven't either,

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but I liked it as an idea, is that there was a a fungal

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infection that that people got infected with
and it functionally turned them into zombies.

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Now, this actually happens to arthropods. There's the court acepts fungus in the

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Amazon. It it actually not only
infects insects and spiders. It alters their

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behavior. It actually steals control of
their their motor functions in their minds and

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makes them behave differently. They'll actually
actively seek out high ground so that when

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the fungal spores break out of the
exoskeleton of the insect, they get carried

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on the windy's here. And it's
kind of spooky stuff, but for the

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purposes of this thing, like,
oh, that's how that's what their zombies

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are. Their humans that got infected
with it, with a human version of

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this fungus, and they turn into
these things called clickers. They would just

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click I guess I don't know.
But the point being that, uh that,

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yeah, even something as simple as
a fungus, a spore, a

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bacillum, a virus, any of
these things could easily will wipe everything else

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out, even not even if it
isn't directly for example, like the clickers

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or something like that, the infected
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I mean either way. Yeah,
as if it doesn't originate from Earth,

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that's just another right drop in the
bucket. The that's interesting to me

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just in the fact that there is
there's a theory that even fungus may be

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extraterrestrial. You've got systems that are
are connected, and help me out here

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if you if you know what the
hell I'm talking about the underground system that's

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so complex, Like there are known
systems of fungus that are living in the

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soil that are so connected, but
they're over a huge swath of land.

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Yeah, some of the the I
think the largest discrete biological entities are these

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giant megafungus that live underground. And
I mean and they're all connected though acres,

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yeah large. Yeah. I think
the trees also, right right right,

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Yeah, aspen trees are the same
kind of thing. It's all an

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interconnected system, and it's just,
you know, it's a different way of

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thinking about what could be an extraterrestrial
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may be dipping into a little bit
too soon. But well, I also

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I think we should put the brakes
on this because I'm starting to feel like,

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man, maybe mycology would be a
cool future episode. Mycology would be

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yeah, yeah, so cool.
Anyway, that's that's that's how this research

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has gone to. It's like,
whoah, my god, I just I

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thought it was a whole. Nope, it's it's a whole hollow earth.

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Let's move on. We we've got
we we've sort of got a definition for

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alien life, extraterrestrials, Dave.
How many how many people do you think

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believe in complex alien life existing?
So? And I think hence far they

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can say aliens, like, you
know, like do you believe in aliens?

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Right? That's what you're asking.
Sure, the kind that flyer on

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and spaceships and are spying on us
or whatever whatever, whatever kind you wanted

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to be. Okay, if there's
something out there that's not human, gotcha?

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Is there is there intelligent life elsewhere? Yeah? If I was going

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to guess, I would say seventy
percent. That's my guest. Seventy percent

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of of just whatever whatever number is
is pulled, would believe it's interesting the

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field of statistics. Obviously it can
be trusted, but it can't because there's

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a lot of people on the planet
and most of them are fucking liars.

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And and how do you how do
you get an accurate feel for it?

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how do you justify that as a
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a lot of big differences. I
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know, like you it's a good
probably a bell weather for the relative comfort

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of the people in a country,
in an ethnic area, how much they

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worry about aliens. People in Syria
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doesn't even show up on a list, is my guess. You know,

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like people who live in areas in
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They're they're worried about their next meal, about their safety, you know.

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So I think there's going to be
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Yeah, you're you're right on You're
you're right on the number. And it's

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hard to quote quantify this. I
found a couple of surveys that have been

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done in you know, the last
ten years. One of them is a

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twenty twelve survey Commission for National Geographic
Channels series Chasing UFOs, And according to

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the survey, eighty million Americans were
apparently surveyed on whether or not they believe

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UFOs and extraterrestrials exist. According to
the survey, thirty six percent thought they

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do exist. Well, seventeen percent
thought they don't, and forty eight percent

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weren't sure. So if you add
the unsure to the people who do that,

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I'm sort of close. But other
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I'm not close. Then I thought, I thought, well more people would.

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Well, I'll keep going here.
About seventy nine percent of those surveyed

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think the government has kept information about
UFOs a secret from the public, and

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fifty five percent believe there are real
life men in black style agents who threaten

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people who spot UFOs if extraterrestrials showed
up. I guess this was part of

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the survey. Twenty two percent would
try to befriend the alien, fifteen percent

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would run away, thirteen percent would
lock their doors, and two percent would

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try to inflict bodily harm. I
don't know what would that's that's still leaving

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people like, what the hell do
they do? Right, Yeah, it's

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not A very percent of people would
flash them with legitaria. Is this what

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you came for? Let's let's just
add that to the list, right,

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that's what they didn't They can't print
that, so we will do it in

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the podcast. And so there and
there's always that big you know for people

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who are in into you know,
reading about ufology and things like that.

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Disclosure that's what they call it.
Yeah, this there will twenty fifteen be

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the year a full government. The
government is finally like listen, right,

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we we've known about alien since the
fifties. Here's what's going on. Don't

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be scarred. Yeah, And every
year someone swears this is the gear for

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Oh Obama's getting He's in two months, in ten days, He's gonna make

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this this ground shaking declaration. And
and you know, you know what I

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would look forward to about government disclosure
to just watch nothing change, but just

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watch the coin flip sides. Oh, the government said that there's aliens are

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real, but I think that they're
liars. That's not for you know,

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like demand that would happen instantly.
And what if this And I was just

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thinking about this, like what if
one of the reasons the government isn't disclosing

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anything about aliens, what if they
did have contact with aliens save in nineteen

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sixty two Cold War, everyone's little
on edge and aliens came down. There

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was contact and they didn't they didn't
leave a business card, they just left

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and we haven't heard anything ever since. Why disclose that, like aside from

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saying, well, yeah, they're
out there, but they like they came

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here for like two hours and then
left and we've never heard a word or

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hiding more hair of him since,
So we don't. I don't know what

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that There's so many there's so many
like what ifs, and yeah, right,

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I think we can we can save
that and get into that later,

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especially like there's a lot of uh, not only political implications, but religious

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implications in there too, yep,
And just like how would people deal with

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that mentally? Anyway, that's a
that's a great teaser. One more thing,

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one more thing with this survey.
Just to lend credence to this survey,

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they asked one more question. Who
you like Clearwater Revival? What's your

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favorite CCR song? How many candles
do you put in the window? Are

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you a fortunate son? Um?
If you just got home from Illinois,

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which door would you be looking at? But now that I say that is

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it? Is it looking out my
back door, looking out my back porch?

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I think it's door? I don't. I don't know. God,

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Well, in my mind right now, in my in my semi drunk mind,

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right now, it's door. I
thought doors felt better but I'm covering

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the point is if if you're Marry
is proud, then you're good. That's

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right, you're rolling rolling, all
right? So they anyway, they asked,

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say they did one more one more
question? Who would you call if

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aliens showed up? Twenty one percent
would call the Hulk? What? Twelve

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percent would call Batman, and eight
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That's what. That's what this?
Who's on there? Well? I

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mean, and who would the rest
of the people call? Right, I'm

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gonna call my next door nightmre Jerry, but called taken fix it intimidating.

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I got a twenty dollars bet with
him that aliens are real, so I'd

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be looking to collect right away.
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be honest, of the three of
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Saved New York from an actually alien
incursion. I I'm sorry a thirty

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second tangent. I can't stand the
Hulk because he's he can't be beat,

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but nothing can stop him. But
he's not under control. He's I don't

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care. He's he's a big thing
that is angry and violent, and that's

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his superpower. It's my superpower.
Shut up, smash. I hate the

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Hulk just for that reason. Angry
that's the superpower. And I'm fine with

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the struggle between Bruce Banner and the
entity that's known as the Hulk. I

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just hate that his superpower is he
the angry here gets he can't be beat.

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The more invincible he is. I
think it's great. I mean,

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Jet shot him and he's just like, oh, jump, smash. Jets

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shoot lots of things that still live, all right, something nothing comes to

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mind at them else but anything else
that whatever, dude, anyway, that's

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it's my beef with the Hulk.
That's Superman. I'm fine with Superman.

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Yeah, you would be. You
disgusted me. He's he's an alien,

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Yeah he is. I got another
I got another pole here, hulka,

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yes all damn day. A twenty
ten Reuters IPSOS poll asked twenty three thousand

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adults in twenty two countries if aliens
exist and live amongst us disguised as humans.

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Now, this is this comes back
to what you were saying earlier.

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Twenty percent said that they did believe, just flat out did believe. More

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than forty percent of people from India
and China believe that aliens walk among us

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disguised as humans, while those least
likely to believe in this were from Belgium,

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Sweden, and the Netherlands at eight
percent each. The thought behind this

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was that areas that are smaller know
each other more. That makes sense,

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and therefore strangers, yeah, less
strangers. They're not as apt to believe

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that aliens are among us. But
those that were that had huge numbers of

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people, you know, in a
concentrated area or whatever, you're not going

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to know everybody and therefore are going
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Yeah, which is it's an interesting
psychology. Alien psychology could be its

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own thing. Everything that we that
we say could be its own episode.

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I'm just saying, this is the
rainforest of subject matter. We can have

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an entire episode of the fact that
your next birthday cake will be the Incredible

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Hulk holding a bitcoin, just so
you know, I'm going to find the

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biggest battery and I launch it directly
at your crotch. The majority of people

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pulled at a whopping eighty percent didn't
believe aliens are in our midst, and

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more men than women twenty two percent
versus seventeen percent. Believe that alien beings

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are on Earth. Most of those
believers were under the age of thirty five

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and across all income classes. The
survey showed. Of those who did not

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believe, most were women because they
got better things to do. Yeah,

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that's right. But we could talk
adnausing about what people believe and why I

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think we already did, but that's
for another episode. If you can't wait,

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if you if you just need to
know why why people think of this,

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like why people think aliens exist or
what they're doing, you can find

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a published study on this very subject
in the Applied Cognitive Psychology Journal, where

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researchers at the Universities of Westminster and
Vienna have identified a proverbial host of factors

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that appear to correlate to belief in
UFOs. And this includes gender, politics,

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religiosity, intelligence, fantasy, proneness, even certain psychological disorders like schizophrenia.

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Though you might have to pay to
read it for some dumbass reason paywall.

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I tried. I tried to get
to the PDF of the abstract,

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and it was like six dollars if
you want to rental of it, Jesus,

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like thirty dollars if you want to
actually get it. It's like why

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you're in a library. Yeah.
Oh, polls are fun. That's that's

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fun. It's in no way an
indication of the entire planet how people view

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stuff. But it's a couple of
recent snippets into pop culture belief. I

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guess let's talk about the Heineck scale
or yea, this is the kinds of

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close encounters well, first, second, and third kind Yeah, only one

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of which merits a movie. There
is a system of classification of personally witnessing

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alien life and UFOs which was created
by an astronomer and ufologist named Jay Allan

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Heineck in nineteen seventy two called Heineck
Scale. Sightings of extraterrestrials and UFOs five

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hundred feet or more are classified as
one of three types. Nocturnal lights those

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are lights in the sky by definition
at night, daylight discs. What this

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just go with it, okay.
UFO is seen in the daytime, generally

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having a discoidal or oval shapes.
Discoidal is a word. Yeah, it

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means no coitus radar visual for UFO
reports that seem to have a radar confirmation

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sem legitimate, Yeah, I mean, and these are those are the ones

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you hear about a lot like.
Oh, in nineteen sixty eight, I

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was flying missions over De Nang and
I was tailed by something and the tower

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was like, we've got positive radar
confirmation. There's a bogee on your tail.

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And I was like, that boge's
a giant ball, a green lot.

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And I kept swear to God,
it's good with me. There's no

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shortage of those stories which we will
mine. Yes, yes, that's our

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leasier this summer. At closer than
five hundred feet. They are classified as

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three other types. Close encounters of
the first kind visual sightings of an unidentified

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flying objects seemingly less than five hundred
feet away that show an appreciable angular extension

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and considerable detail. Wow, lots
of words. What is appreciable angular extension?

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Maybe that's the things that stop on
a dime and and then suddenly go

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the opposite direction or something to see. I think that's not just the opposite

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appreciable angular extension. I was make
like structural, like a structural maybe control

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surface like yeah, wing or a
fin or gosh, we're we're great,

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right Yoh yeah, Well, I
don't know what the okay? Moving on

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close encounters of the second kind a
UFO event in which a physical effect is

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alleged. This can be interference in
the functioning of a vehicle or electronic device,

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animal reacting physiological effects such as paralysis
and heat of discomforted the witness,

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some physical trace of impressions of the
ground scorched or otherwise effective vegetation, or

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a chemical trace. Close encounters of
the third kind UFO encounters in which an

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animated creature is present. These include
humanoids, robots, and humans who seem

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to be occupants or pilots of a
UFO. There have been extensions and subtypes

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added since Heineck's original classifications, though
they are not universally accepted by the UFO

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research community due to being more conjecture
than actual thuds. For more to add

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to the encounters scale are as follows. Close encounters of the fourth kind a

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UFO event in which a human is
abducted by ufour it's occupants. This type

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is not included in Heineck's original close
encounter scale. Ufologists Jack Valig argues that

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the Journal of Scientific Exploration that a
CE four should be described as quote cases

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when witnesses experience of transformation of their
sense of reality and quote so as to

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also include non abduction cases where absurd, hallucinatory, or dream like events are

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associated with UFO encounters. That's I
can tell you what that is. That

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is the ending of Communion, the
Whitley Stream movie with Christopher Walkin where he's

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wearing a top hat and she gets
real weird. I don't think I'm familiar

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with it. You've you never seen
Communion? I don't. I don't think

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so. I've seen Fire in the
sky. Oh. No, Communion is

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great. I read it as a
book like Forever Ago in the eighties.

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It's a ostensibly true story written by
the guy named Whitley, Strieber or Striber

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about being abducted from his He hit
a home in the mountains. I don't

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I don't actually recall where, and
he had he they were repressed. He

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would remember seeing an owl with large
eyes. He would remember there was there

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were hypnotic suggestions put in his head, according to him, and when he

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was able to finally get through them, he recalled being abducted by Grays,

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by classic grays. Okay, and
it I just remember that the end of

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it gets super weird, like it
gets like David Lynch weird. Where Mistopher

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Walkin is wearing like a top hat
and a tails and like the aliens,

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parts of them are coming apart,
and you realize, oh, what you

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thought was a gray face is actually
like a face mask for a different kind

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of alien. Or is he hallucinating
that part? But I think that this

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m Jacques val jacqu and Valet.
Yeah, I think Jacques Valet is full

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of I'll tell you why he's You
know, he's saying, well, what

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if why can't we include in this
people who feel like they've been abducted?

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I had a weird dream. Now
I've had a close encounter of the fourth

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kind. I don't, I don't. I don't like that, and I

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think it muddies the waters of an
already pretty muddy water. Okay, I

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see. I would say he's probably
coming from a place where it's like,

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since people are more than likely drugged, for lack of a better term,

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like they're they're put under something to
make them forget that they're abducted. You

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know, right that that that's the
best they can do is think that it's

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a hallucination or or a story or
a dream that they've made up. But

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by that definition, remember that dream
I told you about that I had.

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Yeah, that would mean that I
have been a part of a close Encounter

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00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.679
of the Fourth Kind because I had
a dreamlike event that was associated with a

403
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:23.360
UFO encounter. Then I don't think
that's legit whatsoever. I will maybe I'm

404
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:29.559
just protecting myself in my fragile psyche, maybe from the reality that's surround me,

405
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:35.599
Like hungry sharks. It's kind of
a way of protecting because if if

406
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.480
that's what happened, how would you
know right that that happened? You know,

407
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.079
I mean in the I mean,
I don't know if it's Okam's razor

408
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:52.360
or whatever, but what's Malkam?
What's what's more likely that I had a

409
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:57.239
bad dream or that I know,
I know what you're saying. I'm I'm

410
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.719
not disagreeing. I'm playing Devil's advocate
with Jacques. Yeah. But the good

411
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.760
news is that's it. There's there's
only four kinds. There's no I mean,

412
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.280
that's it, there's just the fourth
kick. Scept what Close Encounters of

413
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:15.239
the Fifth Kind a UFO invent that
involves direct communication between aliens and humans so

414
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.079
named by UFOLO. Just Stephen M. Greers SESTI group He's are described as

415
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.920
bilateral contact experiences through consciousness, voluntary
and proactive human initiated cooperative communication with extraterrestrial

416
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.599
intelligence and just slow it down.
And I'm just really glad I got through

417
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.360
that. That was I'm impressed with
myself. What is a bilateral contact experience

418
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:37.800
through conscious It means that I'm talking
to you and you're talking to me.

419
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:45.079
We're both choosing it. Both sides
of the communication are participate. It's telepathic.

420
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:52.119
Well no, but but we're both
I'm not drugged or being hypnotized while

421
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.760
you interrogate me, Like, we're
both conscious. We're both sitting here,

422
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.920
like when we walk away discussion,
we're both going to remember this when we

423
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:01.639
walk away from this. You know
this, you say, okay, yeah,

424
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:07.519
it's the difference between voluntary, proactive
human initiated. Yeah, that's interesting

425
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.440
cooperative communication. So humans like,
hey, aliens talk to me and they're

426
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.119
like okay, well, and this
is where you get channeling. This is

427
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.199
where you get ashtar command. This
is where you get people who you know,

428
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.920
like my I told you the story
my friend's mom. She had the

429
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:31.320
headband that she wore with the and
then cry stakes. But yeah, human

430
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:37.360
initiated ring ring. Are you there, Ashtar, It's me Margaret, I

431
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.519
see okay, cool? Yeah?
How about close encounters of the sixth kind?

432
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.920
So wait, does this end with
with with people? Just does this

433
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.840
end with people banging aliens? Yes? Damn it, keep going Jesus Christ

434
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.519
of course. All right, all
right, close encounters are the sixth kind

435
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.960
death of a human or animal associated
with UFOs. Although somebody can said this

436
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.920
more said your example of the second
kind encounter, so it's just dying from

437
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:10.199
aliens includes cattle mutilation, right the
wait, you're trying to tell me they

438
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.719
traveled hundred, the thousand, the
light yeeth just to pop them, old

439
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:20.800
guy and take his groceriath man,
you can keep this galla kind. It's

440
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:25.400
gallack thee sometimes we hit it.
Yeah, but no, this is this

441
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.519
is cattle mutilation. This is uh
death death by transport beam. Right,

442
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.920
you get squished by a landing gear
and the and I forget what. I

443
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.280
always say it's dB Sweeney because that's
the actor who played it, but it

444
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.960
was the I forget what the guy's
name was. The fire in the sky

445
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.760
story said that he saw dead people. Travis Walton. Travis Walton, thank

446
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.559
you he saw dead people on the
ship. Well, so they got their

447
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.800
sixth kind, that's true, and
they didn't live to till about it.

448
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.760
Um, how do they know?
How do they know? Uh? And

449
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:02.760
then finally they've got close encounter?
Is of the seventh kind? Your favorite?

450
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:10.000
My favorite? Our favorite? The
creation of a human alien hybrid,

451
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:20.559
either by oh, sexual reproduction or
hey, artificial scientific methods. I've got

452
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.920
a mouthard you can use what's that
method? You can see? You can

453
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.840
use my beaker? What's in your
beaker? Chemicals? What kind of chemicals?

454
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:36.559
A cocktail of chemicals? Like like
I don't understand what you mean,

455
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.159
like like like actual chemical compounds or
do you mean like that's I just put

456
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:44.760
a port a mixture that you put
inside your sale? What part of myself?

457
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.639
All parts? So I could put
this in my eyes and nothing battle

458
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.440
happen. Oh yeah, I could
dip my toes in it. If you

459
00:41:53.599 --> 00:42:00.559
won't, I gotta tell you you're
you're being very vague. It's hard.

460
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.679
Oh so yeah, there's your seventh
trial. Although I love humankind is like,

461
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.880
dying's easy. Now, banging an
alien that's harder. That's seventh level

462
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:20.119
sh that Now, again, keep
in mind that fourth, three seventh here

463
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.000
have been added. Not by Heinech
himself, No, is it by the

464
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.320
same people who watch tentacle porn.
You don't know that. You don't know

465
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.880
that. You can assume that it's
a safe assumption. But those that's your

466
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:40.320
that's your close encounter scale made famous
after the movie made made a little more

467
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:45.360
famous, not not, I guess
famous isn't quite the term the famous.

468
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.119
Well, I mean it just it
brought it to the consciousness of people that,

469
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.679
yeah, there is a scale and
people do quantify how these things happen,

470
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.599
and I guess and there's actually for
most of my life, I mean

471
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:00.639
up until just a few years ago, I always thought that that it was

472
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.280
a trilogy. For no reason.
I just was like, oh, of

473
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.800
the third kind, that was the
third movie that they you know, each

474
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.000
movie was got a little weirder.
I don't know why I thought that.

475
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:15.480
But but you have seen the movie, right, yeah, the Steven Spielberg,

476
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.119
Yeah, movie with them Close Encounters
of the Third Kind famous Smashed Potatoes.

477
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:24.239
So w do you do you say? Yes? Do you agree with

478
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.280
that as being a close encounter of
the third kind? According to the scale

479
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.159
in the movie. In the movie
yeah, yeah, yeah, they were

480
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.960
there. The animated creatures were present. You couldn't make them out because of

481
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:42.239
all light, but that you saw
them moving around there. There was an

482
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:49.199
attempt to communicate me. And then
all the abductees got released. Yeah spoiler.

483
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.519
Yeah to watch that, No,
you do, because you have to

484
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:59.039
watch Richard. You gotta watch drive
Us, watch Drive Us try to communicate

485
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.559
with the alien and Richard, Richard, we're all out of mashed potatoes.

486
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:10.880
What? Um? That was the
one thing in my contract I wanted mashed

487
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:17.079
potatoes. Also, the last scene
is going to be filmed in southern Florida,

488
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:28.800
uh in not Wyoming. Um.
Let's then move on to alien counters

489
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:34.800
in history. Yeah, historical accounts. Now, we're not gonna go super

490
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.480
in depth with this. We're not
even go a little in depth with this.

491
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.880
That's how in depth we're not gonna
go because again, that that could

492
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:46.519
be its its whole separate entity.
It's own podcast, right and and let's

493
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.440
let's be honest. I mean,
this thing is you just listened to a

494
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.239
whole episode almost about alien taxonomy and
we haven't even talked about the alien types

495
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.360
of aliens. Yeah, so we
gotta set them up yeah, we might

496
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.239
have to rename this first one maybe
or change the title or something. Well,

497
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:06.760
you can't. You can't bowl without
the pins being set up, but

498
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.639
it's still bowling when when you do
set the pin. There's a metaphor in

499
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.079
there. I'll just take your word
for you. Tell me about the Bible

500
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:21.800
well before we get into that.
Uh, there's a whole world of discussion

501
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.320
about aliens in ancient times through the
present. And you know, they might

502
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.320
even make a show about it one
day. I don't know, super blow

503
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:36.679
sound. It is such a thing
even possible. Yes it is, Yes,

504
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.880
it is, and some other fair
is going to get paid a lot

505
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:45.079
of money for it. It's you
can't afford haircuts. He can afford jail,

506
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:52.800
for sure. Seeing jail no hair
gel, I thought that was sorry,

507
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.039
I'm getting drunk. I'm getting real
drunk. I thought that was a

508
00:45:54.119 --> 00:46:00.360
Kentucky jail. Jail, jail,
that was a Kentucky jail, and that

509
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.039
that means, that meant, that
means something you put in your hair.

510
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.360
Uh, listen, everybody, I'm
making up for for young Uh yeah,

511
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.920
dun, dude. I ran out
of beer, so I'm going heavy on

512
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.880
the bourbon and coke. Right now. Yeah, thanks for writing in for

513
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.280
what you like. How you like
to take your your bourbon, bourbon and

514
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:23.000
cocaine, is what he was saying. Nope, nope, I have not.

515
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:30.119
I have not snorted corks coket for
fun. I haven't been all right,

516
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:37.960
all right, okay, let's see
now. It's fun to Yeah,

517
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:43.159
I know it. It's fun to
speculate on ancient medieval chronicles and speculate.

518
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:50.800
Yeah, it is fun to speculate. It's fun to speculate on ancient and

519
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:55.599
medieval chronicles of what seemed to be
UFOs and extraterrestrials. However, we can

520
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.800
only guess and interpret what these myths
and legends were truly about out But that's

521
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.920
okay, we'll do it, Yeah, we will. Some interpretations lead researches

522
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:09.199
to believe we've been visited before,
as in an old Chinese tale which talks

523
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:15.400
about a far off quote unquote land
of flying carts inhabited by one armed,

524
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:22.840
three eyed people riding winged chariots with
gilded wheels. That's pretty I like that.

525
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.039
That's getting wild. That's word jazz. Yeah, that's every Every word

526
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:34.039
is a new journey in that sense. The Sanskrit text of the Drona Parva

527
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:39.079
part of the Indian epic, the
Mahabarata, talks about aerial dog fights between

528
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:45.320
gods piloting flying machines called vimanas.
Yeah, and I think we've brought that

529
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.440
up before. That's that famous chunk
of the Vedic text. Yeah, and

530
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.400
we'll probably get back to that at
a future date. But a very interesting

531
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:59.760
part of the globe that history wise, nobody I don't think on on our

532
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.719
of the hemisphere gets talked about a
lot. No, No, not hemisphere.

533
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:09.440
Well Western when I'm just kind of
digging the horror. Yeah, I'm

534
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:15.280
going to town on the whole whatever. In America, we don't talk about

535
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.639
Indian history and literature, so we
don't care about it in America because that's

536
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.800
not part of America. But we
should because it's very interesting. We'll get

537
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.199
it back to that one day,
I'm sure. According to one translation of

538
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:34.639
this, during the battles quote a
blazing missile possessed of the radiance of smokeless

539
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:40.079
fire was discharged in quote M.
Yeah. Another part of the epic tells

540
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.360
of an attack on an enemy army, and it goes like this, It

541
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.559
was as if the elements had been
unfurled. The sun spun around in the

542
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.960
heavens. The world shuddered in fever, scorched by the terrible heat of this

543
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:02.840
weapon. Elephants burst into flames of
the rivers. Boiled animals crumpled to the

544
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.599
ground and died. The armies of
the enemy were mowed down when the raging

545
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:15.519
elements reached them. Forests collapsed in
splintered rows, Horses and chariots were burned

546
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.719
up. The corpses of the fallen
were mutilated by the terrible heats so that

547
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:28.880
they looked other than human. Pretty
crazy, Yeah, that super crazy stuff.

548
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:34.800
Now, there is that the old
the old thing going around the our

549
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:42.519
circles about there being a nuclear war
on the Indian subcontinent. Yeah, And

550
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.440
I don't know if that's something I've
just read on, you know, doing

551
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.159
research for their episodes, or if
that's a if that's a thing that that

552
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.440
we've covered in here. We haven't
really covered it that much. It's it's

553
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.480
stuff that we I think have seen
and read more. It's definitely on,

554
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.000
but there it merits looking at sometime
in the near future, I think.

555
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.800
No, I agree, there's there's
volcanic glass or something that's that's made in

556
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:13.760
a place where there shouldn't be something
like that. That's that's kind of like

557
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.119
a teaser for right yeah, you
gosh, And I mean I don't know,

558
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.960
does that fall under kind of like
an oop arts kind of thing.

559
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:27.480
I think it's right Frontliams. You
know in a way that it's like civilization

560
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.639
and technology before humanity thought there was
civilization technology, right, yeah, I

561
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:40.199
mean unexpected thing. Now, what's
silly is if you're if you're that advanced,

562
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:45.079
but you're still dropping nukes. That
to me does an add up.

563
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:51.199
But right, it's fodder for a
future trough that we're gonna stick or faces

564
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:57.880
in and just oh, let's move
on. Even Biblical art has been known

565
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:05.079
to show interesting images. Even the
Bible can be interesting no art art art

566
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:15.119
interpretation, such as the fourteenth century
Fresco depicting the Crucifixion, which also has

567
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:21.679
two men in separate triangular shaped objects
with fins watching the event from the sky.

568
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:28.960
Chrono knots. No, it's a
chrono exclusion zone. That's right.

569
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.559
I have possibly been manum have you
seen this? You know what I'm talking

570
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.239
about? No? I do,
I do. I did see something else

571
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.159
though, i'd it's it's the Crucifixion
of Christ. The sky is a dark

572
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.679
blue, and on the right side
of it there's like a little silver craft,

573
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.800
well, a little silver triangular kind
of thing with a guy sitting in

574
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.840
it. On the left side there's
a little orange thing with a guy sitting

575
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.800
in it. Here's the deal.
Could just be the sun and the moon.

576
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.639
Yeah, man, hell if I
know. But if you saw it,

577
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.000
I bet you'd recognize it. It
is a chrono exclusion thone. I

578
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.920
mean, we've we've covered that.
There's also the Renaissance, a painting of

579
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:15.239
the Madonna and Child with the infant
Saint John, which shows a small oval

580
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:22.519
object in the sky radiating light over
her left shoulder, the Madonna and a

581
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:29.920
distant onlooker watching it. Maybe sometimes
you like to watch it's it's a little

582
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.519
it's real strange now that the going
thought is that it's just an angel,

583
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:42.199
but that angels either real small or
real far away. Man, it's it's

584
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.320
ripe for this sort of interpretation.
I'll say that, well, you know,

585
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:51.639
I uh, speaking of righte for
interpretation. When I was researching this,

586
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:59.119
I came across a recent news story
that there is perhaps an alien in

587
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.880
a little painting called the Mona Lisa. Ever heard of it? No?

588
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.000
Did you see that at all?
Um? I think I've I've heard it

589
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.480
before, but I didn't see it
in this research that uh, Leonardo da

590
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.400
Vinci had as he you know,
people know that he was fond of hiding

591
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:22.000
things in his pants, pants in
his in his work, and one of

592
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.639
the things that he had, according
to some folks, hidden that if you

593
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:31.480
put if you mirror image the Mona
Lisa at just the right distance, and

594
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:35.480
then I mean it's it's like,
sure, sure, it's a really great

595
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.440
because it's like then you enhance,
then you dhance, then you rehance,

596
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:44.679
you can almost see a gray alien. I mean it's you're really really super

597
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:49.920
reaching for it. But that's yeah, that's what I saw. Also,

598
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.920
I mean it's it's art. It's
not like it's a photograph from I don't

599
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:58.320
know. That's that's a probably a
dumb, I don't know, dumb point

600
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.360
to bring up. But sightings of
course continue today and in fact it just

601
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:08.599
you know, the number grows with
every year on who sees UFOs and this

602
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:14.960
and that, the whole sightings thing, that's that's an episode in itself too.

603
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.719
Yeah, and you know, yeah, interpreting old images of I mean,

604
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.360
and that's the thing. Just think, just just walk with me through

605
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:32.039
this sentence, interpreting fifteenth century paintings
accounts of things that happened a thousand in

606
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.239
a book, Yeah, over a
thousand years before, and they were all

607
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:43.360
religious events. I mean, people, you're gonna you're gonna see a lot

608
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.920
of a barren things. People are
going to be including things that are important.

609
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:51.519
We are no better today at this
sort of thing, you know,

610
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.519
like we're just as wild and crazy
about our religions as they were then.

611
00:54:54.800 --> 00:55:00.800
We're better at using the word ambaran. Yeah. Yeah, how much did

612
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:07.119
that cost you? It was worth
it fifty dollar word, sorry, mister

613
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:14.079
Freeman. Back home when I was
growing up, Well, mister Freeman,

614
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:19.880
read me the Bible now, Ariens
and the Bible. It's funny because a

615
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:24.519
lot of people think that the Bible
is the definitive text on all we need

616
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:30.440
to know about UFOs. Well,
it has all the answers, that's what

617
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.199
they keep telling me. Usually it's
Saturday at about four o'clock when they rolled

618
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:39.000
by my apartment. I've picked out
a few passages here from the Bible that

619
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.880
are very interesting, to say the
least. And I'm going to start with

620
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:49.159
Isaiah thirteen five, Chapter thirteen,
verse five. They come from a far

621
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.519
country from the end of heaven,
even the Lord and the weapons of his

622
00:55:52.760 --> 00:56:00.280
indignation to destroy the whole land.
Is that a blatant Aliens reference? No?

623
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.079
Yeah, no, do some people
think it is? Yes? First

624
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:10.239
Corinthians, Chapter fifteen, verse forty. There are also celestial bodies and bodies

625
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:15.840
terrestrial, but the glory of the
celestial is one and the glory of the

626
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:23.760
terrestrial is another. That's about angels
and humans get mad on in Corinthians.

627
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:31.199
I don't know they've left that behind
the Genesis. What about Second Kings two

628
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:37.880
eleven. I like this one.
Behold they appeared a chariot of fire and

629
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:44.599
horses of files and parted them both
Asunda and Elijah went up by a whirlwind

630
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:49.960
into heaven. This is this is
a big one. This is a a

631
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.199
red flag. Red flags are bad. This is a green flag. In

632
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:58.880
green flag means ago. This is
a yellow flag. Caution. Okay,

633
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:04.280
does a yellow flag in the Bible. Elijah ascending into heaven. He's he

634
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.960
Elijah, the prophet. He has
done his job. The Lord is calling

635
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.559
him home. How does he do
it? Well? He he beams him

636
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.840
up, mother, he beats him
up. Yeah, there's a big,

637
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.960
big show about it. Yeah,
there's a big there's a fiery chariot.

638
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.800
He goes up to the whirlwind.
I mean you could, I mean you

639
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.000
could even say. He gets in
a damn Apache helicopter and takes off,

640
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:35.119
and yeah, that's awesome. I
don't know. That's that's that's one.

641
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.320
But it gets better, it gets
better. For what do we have next?

642
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:44.079
Zechariah chapter six, verses one through
seven. And I turned and lifted

643
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.880
up mine eyes and looked, and
behold, there came four chariots out from

644
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:53.159
between two mountains, and the mountains
were mountains of brass. In the first

645
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:59.119
chariot were red horses, and in
the second chariot black horses, and in

646
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:05.760
the third chariot white horses, and
in the fourth chariot grizzled and bay horses.

647
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:08.719
There were no chair. There were
no more chariots after that. And

648
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:13.440
then I answered and said, unto
the angel that talked with me, what

649
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.320
are these? My lord? No
one? Full well? They were multicolored

650
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:21.760
horses, of course. And the
angel answered and said, unto me,

651
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.719
these are the four spirits of the
heavens, which go forth from standing before

652
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.679
the Lord of all the earth.
The black horses, which are therein go

653
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.880
forth into the north country, and
the white go forth after them, and

654
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.239
the grizzled go forth toward the south
country. And the bay went forth and

655
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:43.159
sought to go that they might walk
to and fro through the earth. And

656
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.880
he said, get you hints walked
to and fro through the earth. So

657
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:51.719
they walked to and fro through the
earth. So they walked to and fro

658
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:53.920
through the earth. I feel like
you put that part in just I do

659
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.360
not. It's in the bubble.
Well, I mean, I know,

660
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:07.360
but that one doesn't seem very bay
caught me apocalypse and yeah, it doesn't

661
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.840
seem very very aliensy to me.
Well, the first part of it,

662
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:20.239
if you if you think of h
four chariots between two brass mountains and the

663
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.760
red horses black horses, I mean
fire smoke, white horses, grizz What

664
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:30.679
what the hell's a bay horse?
I don't know, he says, grizzled.

665
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.719
I mean, is that like emaciated? Is it old? Is it?

666
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.360
Is that a reference to the I
don't know something about a sick horse.

667
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:43.320
Sick horse, and doesn't it sound
apocalyptic? Though? What he said,

668
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:50.000
you ignorant son of a bitch.
He's quoting the Bible. Everything comes

669
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:58.920
back to Toomstone. I got to
slide that we might be creating a bumper

670
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:01.079
sticker at this point, No doubt. Everything comes back to Tombstone. That's

671
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:09.199
Bible. Tombstone is my Bible.
That's interesting though, right, I mean

672
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:14.000
if you think of the four horsemen, and then you're thinking of Zachariah,

673
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:20.360
here you've got red horse, black
horse, white horse, and four horse

674
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.599
and then one horse to horse,
red horse, blue horse. Right,

675
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:30.079
I don't know, I'm trying to
draw parallels for for funzies, right,

676
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:31.599
um, and you can. I
mean, it's the same thing you could

677
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:35.199
say, you know, like,
for example, the description of the beast

678
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:38.559
and is in Revelation. Yeah,
that's an alien. There's a number of

679
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:45.159
things in Revelation that could be attributed
to alien entities by far, though the

680
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:53.880
most popular alien connection in the Bible
happens to be in the Book of Ezekiel,

681
01:00:54.639 --> 01:01:00.840
chapter one versus four through twenty eight. You well know my name and

682
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:08.000
the law and our labor aliens Part
you whyoomer pile. This is the way

683
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:13.719
it went. We're gonna let's read
verses one through I don't know eight or

684
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.280
so. It's turning your Bibles to
verses one and then not. And then

685
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:22.039
we'll jump ahead a little bit and
finish up. But these are the big

686
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:28.719
things that people are like, Oh
Bible aliens eagle right. And I looked,

687
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:32.239
and behold a whirlwind came out of
the north, a great cloud,

688
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:37.079
and a fire unfolding itself, and
the brightness was about it. And out

689
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:42.000
of the midst there others the color
of amber. Out of the midst of

690
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.480
the fire. Also out of the
midst thereof came the likeness of four living

691
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:50.760
creatures. And this was their appearance. They had the likeness of a man,

692
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.880
and everyone had four faces, and
everyone had four wings. Jumping ahead

693
01:01:54.960 --> 01:02:00.719
to verse fifteen. Now, as
I beheld the living creature, behold one

694
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:07.519
wheel upon the earth by the living
creatures with his four faces. The appearance

695
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:12.639
of the wheels and their work was
likened to the color of a barrel.

696
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:17.639
And they four had one likeness,
and their appearance, and their work was

697
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.880
as it were, a wheel in
the middle of a wheel. When they

698
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:28.559
went they went upon their four sides, and they turned not when they went

699
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:34.039
as for their rings, and they
were so high that they were dreadful,

700
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:39.360
and their rings were full of eyes
round about them. For and when the

701
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:45.519
living creatures went, the wheels went
by them. And when the living creatures

702
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:51.880
were lifted up from the earth,
the wheels were lifted up. That just

703
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.960
confused the ship out of me.
It's very confusing. There was wheels and

704
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.639
aliens. Okay, but aliens,
okay, but aliens, all right,

705
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:06.800
but aliens, I'm a butt alien. Nice probe probe bro. Well,

706
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.519
I'll say this that I mean,
I mean, okay, we wheels,

707
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.599
wheels within wheels, wheels within wheels, four faces, whirlwind cloud and the

708
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.880
wheels didn't turn with them, and
they've lifted a creatures. I mean,

709
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:24.559
they have done a lot of speculation
into this. A lot of artists have

710
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:29.360
just been it's like, here's here's
what we're describing. Just draw it.

711
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:34.440
Just draw what we're describing. You
know, it's it's interesting, I'll say

712
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.960
the in the least, it's interesting
to think of this. But then again,

713
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:43.880
you know, it's it's just somebody's
writing. This pretty imaginative writer.

714
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:50.840
I don't know that's that's maybe a
different discussion, but this is the biggest

715
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:57.679
what do we say yellow flag for
aliens in the Bible is Ezekiel. Yeah,

716
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.480
right, just just from this path
message alone. And it's a it's

717
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:06.119
a long chapter like going on about
how there may or may not be aliens.

718
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:11.280
And it's not that it's saying there
may or may not be aliens.

719
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:15.880
It's just describing the glory of the
Lord to you know, what Ezekiel saw.

720
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.280
So it's fun. It's fun to
just even think about what if the

721
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:30.920
Bible the most popular book in the
world was Okay, Daved just looked up

722
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.480
a picture of it. Yeah,
an artist. There's been a ton of

723
01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:41.239
artist renditions of what this describes.
He he just looked up one that was

724
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:46.440
like, uh, four gyroscopes on
top of a like a slab of land

725
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:50.880
with a cloud above it and a
rainbow. Right, Yeah, that was

726
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:57.440
anyway, Yeah, it's I can
see why people think there may be aliens

727
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.519
involved. I make the connection like
like, yeah, I'm right there with

728
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:04.159
it. I'm right there with it. You're not, no, But I

729
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:06.920
just you know, I don't because
you believe in the glory of the Lord

730
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.400
forever and ever, amen, No, I just it doesn't seem like I

731
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.480
don't know, it's a that's a
confusing I mean, first of all,

732
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:23.760
I think that when you said about
personally interpreting a religious document, you've already

733
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:29.960
lost You have pre messed it up. Having said that, I would say,

734
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.159
what if that is a I mean, look at a person trying to

735
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:40.039
use words to describe a very intense
and weird image. Um, something that

736
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:43.880
perhaps like a tesseract um, not
not the avengerous tests I act, but

737
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:45.280
an actual tests re act. You
know, I have no idea what you're

738
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:53.840
talking about, Okay, a tests
I act. So just like, um,

739
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.320
and this is me and I'm sure
someone's come up with this before,

740
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.519
and God help me from what I'm
about to say. But like, imagine

741
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:04.599
a flat paper cross, okay,
and it's you know, it's it's four

742
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:10.039
cubes high, three cubes across,
right, Okay. That is a two

743
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:15.320
dimensional representation of something that can be
folded into a three dimensional cube. Okay.

744
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:21.400
A test erect is a three dimensional
object, that is a representation of

745
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:26.360
something that can be folded into a
four dimensional object. And what is four

746
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:30.800
dimensions in that respect? Well,
that's the thing we can to comprehend it

747
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.199
right, Okay, to my mind, if I get to interpret things however

748
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:38.440
I want, and I do because
of pay taxes, and I wear cowboy

749
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:40.800
boots. I don't know any cowboy
boots, but I want to get a

750
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:44.440
pair of cowboy boots. I kind
of do also, um, let's be

751
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.039
cowboy boot brothers. But like,
imagine someone trying to describe, like if

752
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:51.559
they're if something is if they're having
this this moment where they think that they're

753
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:57.400
seeing something extra dimensionally and they're trying
to cram all that back into words.

754
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:00.159
I don't know, Maybe I'm getting
too much credit. No, it doesn't

755
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.239
have to do with aliens though,
and that's the problem. And we gotta

756
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:05.599
we gotta stop. We gotta stop, and we gotta we gotta, we

757
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:09.639
gotta put the brakes on and get
this car back on the Alien Highway.

758
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.239
I see what you're saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying. That

759
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:16.280
it just boils down to interpretation of
what somebody is seeing. They're using the

760
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:20.719
best language they can to describe it, right, And it doesn't necessarily have

761
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:26.159
to mean that it's aliens. Yep. So yeah, I completely understand it.

762
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:30.760
I also understand the leap that someone
would take to say that's an alien

763
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.440
spacecraft, right, that somebody is
just using the language that they know to

764
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.519
describe it as best they can.
There's a whole lot of wheels on that

765
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:44.000
alien spacecraft four, but there's wheels
within the wheels. Jyra Scoping. We

766
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.800
haven't stopped talking about about the conjecture
stuff. We've got to start getting into

767
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:54.000
either real science or fake science fation. Well, we just need to start

768
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.320
listening some aliens. And unfortunately we're
out of time. Yeah, we're out

769
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.360
of time. But you know,
well, there's there's your foundation. Who

770
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:04.199
is gonna who is gonna get in
a building that has no uh that that's

771
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:10.079
just like a door stuck in the
ground, windows that are that are just

772
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.400
like propped up. Yep. I
don't know. I don't even know what

773
01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:19.640
the fun I'm talking about anymore.
I just wanted to lay some foundation's flora.

774
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:24.960
What kind of nutshell was this?
And this this was in a historical

775
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:34.279
Reuters pulled statistically analyzed telethon nutshell that
you gotta you gotta give your bit coins

776
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:40.960
for because if not, it'll it'll
just kill itself off or the hulkle smash

777
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:45.279
it. I think we got some
time for Oh we do. We have

778
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.840
time because that's what we do.
So set it up in a way that

779
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.119
that I didn't pooch by being drunk. You got it, hey, flour.

780
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.560
You know, sometimes you gotta get
down to the basement. You gotta

781
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:04.920
line all the holes up, and
that's the only way you can save bus

782
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.399
Florad. You want to start,
you want me to go? Um,

783
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.520
I want you to go. Okay, okay, you know um Linguists and

784
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:23.960
literary historians have been um doing a
lot of interesting research now about a time

785
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:30.880
when literate gentry would, rather than
settle their disputes with um, you know,

786
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:35.119
swords or or pistols or anything,
they would send these just scathing,

787
01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:41.640
scathing notes to each other. And
uh, these just just brutal poems.

788
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:46.520
And in some cases they were so
these these poems, that their ability to

789
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:53.800
cut was so deep that that people
would read them and die. Yeah,

790
01:09:53.960 --> 01:10:00.560
those were pros encounters of the sixth
kinds. Wait, poems are aren't pros

791
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:06.920
Gough poems. I don't know the
difference. I study bugs. I'm with

792
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:12.680
you. I get you, though, I get you along the same line,

793
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.359
though, there's a bar that you
can go to where people are just

794
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:23.359
so weird when they get drunk and
they just they spout off about the Bible.

795
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:26.880
Who yeah, the Bible, politics, anything you can think of.

796
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:30.640
Is it called Flora's living room?
All right, you want to you want

797
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.600
to do all the puns, you
want to do all the punts. It's

798
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:39.159
fine, fine you Hey, everybody, it's all blurry. Dave's de eCos

799
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:43.920
and he's in charge of everything.
Let's just sit back and let him entertain

800
01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:51.159
by all means seed. No,
it's uh, it's it's it's a actually

801
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:56.319
a public house you can go to
and you can get yourself a drink and

802
01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.279
listen to these idiots. Just go
on. It's uh. It's called close

803
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:04.800
encounters of the slurred kind. Nice. I like that one. That's a

804
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:10.840
really good one. You know,
for people in the North who rather for

805
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:14.439
a vacation or sometimes for work.
If they move as they moved through,

806
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:17.079
if they were saying going on a
road trip through the South, um,

807
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:20.079
they're going to encounter a lot of
different people. And at first it was

808
01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:26.359
really difficult for Northerners to quantify their
experience. How do they you know,

809
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.680
to really make sense of who they
were meeting, and so they were actually

810
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:35.560
after a while able to develop a
means by which, you know, how

811
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:40.079
much did they interact with someone from
the South and to what degree? You

812
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:43.479
know, did you just see them
from a distance, did you talk to

813
01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:46.279
them, did they did they talk
to you? You know, did they

814
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:53.359
drug you? It's called the redneck
scale. Yeah, yeah, the high

815
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:58.239
neck. None, the redneck scale, which is not to say every from

816
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:00.920
this everyone from the South the redneck. I know that's not true, but

817
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.640
I was trying to put together a
punt on the fly, and you got

818
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.279
to paint with a broad brush to
make a pun work. So sorry,

819
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:12.079
everyone from the South and everyone from
the North. Sorry, Summer, Sorry,

820
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:14.720
I'm not you know, it's great
about the South. What we can

821
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:16.920
appreciate a joke like that. Are
you in the Are you from the South?

822
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:21.359
Yes, Kentucky is considered the south. Okay, have you heard?

823
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:26.119
Have you heard me? No one
thinks Kentucky is part of the North.

824
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:29.000
But I don't know that I've ever
associated with the South. I always felt

825
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:32.920
like Kentucky deep South. I've always
just considered Kentucky to be sort of like

826
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:39.119
it's it's it's own region. I
don't know, South, so's I could

827
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:41.560
see that. I don't. I
just never thought it in those terms.

828
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:45.399
But yeah, I get that the
deep South is Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia,

829
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.960
things like that. Mississippi, Mississippi, Florabama, Tennessee, South,

830
01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:54.199
you know whatever. Ohio, No, No, Indiana. See. I

831
01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:59.439
always considered Tennessee and Kentucky to be
sort of like this midground. Yeah,

832
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:01.279
they're just kind of like their their
own territory. But that's just my own

833
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:08.560
mind. U. I have an
ancient book of writings that a lot of

834
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:13.199
people like to read and draw a
lot of conclusions from. Oh great,

835
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.640
it's just it's based on on people
that the person who wrote the book.

836
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.960
It's in in ancient times. They
just saw a bunch of naked people running

837
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:26.239
around. Um some of them were
twirling, I don't, I don't know

838
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:33.000
twirling always. Um, they they
were rolling around in big wooden wheels.

839
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:36.479
Yeah that Uh, it was.
It was a sight to behold. And

840
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:41.319
a lot of people think that that
that there's something more to this, uh

841
01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:45.279
these stories than what is told.
But it makes a point to tell you

842
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:50.800
that all the people that were doing
this were naked, completely naked, it's

843
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:57.319
the book of Istrikiel. Why do
I get the feeling that that a whole

844
01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:04.079
section of the podcast was included so
that you would have this pl not at

845
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:12.119
all, as long as the cart
followed the horse. Oh them's pons.

846
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:16.960
That's that. And now we look
to the stars and wait for your ethereal

847
01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:23.279
messages to be dropped upon a message
I did say messages I did. I

848
01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:26.199
don't know why. I'm I'm getting
real like, I'm not slursy. I'm

849
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:29.359
just like, I think it's it's
by by proxy. Yeah, I have

850
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:33.399
not. You've had more diet coke
than you have beer. Yeah. No,

851
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:36.680
But I did have that really powerful
Margarita before I got here. Oh

852
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:49.760
there you go. I like that. Have Margarita's boom boom boom boom boom

853
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:59.039
boom boom boom rating on pigs.
Right. King emails lump Jack it's a

854
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:01.800
big skiller might have forgotten, so
he had to trap bigs to his feet

855
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:11.039
to grease Ito. Umber Jack.
Nick come back, lumber Jack. Nick.

856
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.520
Nick says, hey, guys,
hey been loving the show. Haven't

857
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:17.840
written a long time. We know, he says, I know how that

858
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:23.680
goes. We definitely know how that
goes he's moving to La Nice. Wow,

859
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:29.119
there's something that's beautiful there that he's
always been meaning to ask, says,

860
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:33.000
what the heck is it? The
Stecco does for a living? Seems

861
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:38.960
like every episode Titanic gave mentions a
previous job that he's held, and there

862
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:43.840
seems to be no consistency in a
career. Ye one time he mentioned that

863
01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:47.199
he worked in an antique store.
Another time he mentioned he worked in Antarctica.

864
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:51.319
Actually he mentions that one all the
time. Yeah, I do it.

865
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:57.239
Seems he's done everything from being a
swashbuckler to miming just curious, and

866
01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:01.399
then he gives the obligatory what is
it the floor? Does? Uh?

867
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:06.239
I have had I get? I
wouldn't say I get for it, but

868
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:11.720
I have had a lot of dissimilar
jobs. That's true. Let me just

869
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:16.279
run through it real quick. I
worked boom boom boom. Let's see.

870
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.760
I worked construction for a while.
I did entomology research. I was a

871
01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:26.359
bouncer and a manager at a bar
for a little while. I worked at

872
01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:34.319
an insurance company I worked at and
then bought into a stone fabricating shop for

873
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:41.079
a while. That was terrible.
Um, I waited tables. I worked

874
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.960
in Antarctica. I used to recover. I had a job for a while

875
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.199
recovering corneas for transplant surgery. That
was a real thing. Yeah. No,

876
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:53.960
you're one hundred percent right. I
have no clear career trajectory at all,

877
01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:58.039
um. I have actually for the
last eight years now, I am

878
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:02.319
the director of exhibitions for a fine
arts and antiques auction house. So I

879
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:06.479
just make sure everything stays safe and
just keep all the plates spinning. So

880
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.439
yeah, so you know, I've
had and I know that I've forgotten things

881
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:15.600
that I've done some of the things
I've done. I have had a ton

882
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:17.039
of jobs. I've had a lot
of weird jobs here and there. And

883
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:20.159
that's that's where I go. I'm
an adventure guy. I go where the

884
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:24.079
adventure is. I go and do
what I think is most interesting. Yeah.

885
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:29.279
So yeah, that's it. That's
my answer, Flora. I've I've

886
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.680
done things that I'm not proud of. I'm proud of. Uh No,

887
01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:40.239
I've done things that that I've been
given the opportunity to do more more truthfully,

888
01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:45.239
Like, Yeah, I moved to
Chicago out of school after doing a

889
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:49.279
theater internship m and I started work
working in HR for a parking garage company.

890
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:55.319
Super exciting work. You worked at
the three M factory, Well,

891
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.000
I did that during high school.
I wouldn't call that. I don't know.

892
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:01.119
Well, we talked for going back
that far, talked about show.

893
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:05.840
I'm just saying it was actually pretty
Jermaine. Towards the end of of the

894
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:11.640
parking garage I actually drove a horse
carriage downtown in Chicago. That's awesome.

895
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:15.479
And then I U I worked at
a group on in customer service for a

896
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:20.920
while, hated it. Um And
now I'm a caretaker at a mansion on

897
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:27.079
the Gold Coast in Chicago. So
and I do the podcast. I really

898
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:30.680
devote a lot of time to doing
the podcast when I can. We're adventurers.

899
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:35.640
Yeah, and we both perform when
we can here and there and exactly.

900
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:40.520
Sometimes that gives money, but most
often nine percent of the time.

901
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:43.760
Yeah, no way, brother,
Nope. But it's fun to do it.

902
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:45.119
Yeah. I've always taken jobs that
let me do what I want to

903
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.159
do. Yeah, that's I guess
if you put a thread through all of

904
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:50.800
that, I always do. I
always pick jobs that let me do what

905
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:55.319
I want to do. And by
far this is the most fulfilling that I've

906
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:59.560
I've done. I wouldn't call it
work. Oh, so fancy there you

907
01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:01.960
go. Thank you Nick, thanks
for at accent about us. Yeah,

908
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.920
thank you. And you're gonna have
a ton of fun in LA. And

909
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:11.560
I strongly recommend go check out Meltdown
Comics. They have a shot. They

910
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:15.560
It's not only where they record a
lot of the nerdest podcasts I mean,

911
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:17.439
like Chris Hardwicks and things like that. They have a shop in the back

912
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:21.279
where they have comedy shows all the
time. They have to shop a little

913
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:26.319
stage in the back. That's an
event. They have art shows, comedy

914
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:30.880
shows. Harmon Town, which we've
talked about a bunch is recorded there every

915
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:33.920
week. Um, if you're just
looking for a place to tap in where

916
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:38.199
cool people are doing really fun,
creative things, that's a great place to

917
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:42.880
start. And so yeah, congratulations, good luck to you. Yeah right

918
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:45.039
back. Well, so what brings
you to LA? What are you a

919
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:47.520
performer? I don't recall if you've
talked about that. I think you're an

920
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:51.600
artist. Yeah, so that's cool. That's it's always fun to move to

921
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:54.560
a new area. It's a lot
of work, don't get me wrong,

922
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:58.039
but it's it's it's still fun.
It's an adventure and that's what I'm into.

923
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:01.359
So well done, Well done.
Don't forget to feed them pigs before,

924
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:06.359
because you got to freedom between yeah
fat or there's not not a good

925
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:13.920
viscosity what you got? Dave well
uh, fresh out of the Senate Subcommittee

926
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.800
on Ethics and with absolutely no indictment
and looks like he's going to duck all

927
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:25.359
the charges of vote rigging. The
duly elected zombie Master. Oh yeah,

928
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:30.079
writes us a pun about the Fountain
of Youth. I've heard of a small

929
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.039
beverage company out of Florida that uses
water source from a private well. They

930
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.720
use this water with some added flavors
like watermelon, strawberry, and key line.

931
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:43.560
People have been claiming they feel good
younger even after getting getting a drink

932
01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:46.319
from these machines. If you want
to try some, look for restaurants feeding

933
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:55.920
featuring the soda Fountain of Youth.
Oh nice, I got another one here

934
01:20:55.960 --> 01:21:00.159
from Zombie Master, and this is
really interesting. Zombie Master's head quite an

935
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:03.920
experience. I like how it does
start like an erotic letter. I never

936
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:08.680
thought this would happen to me.
My wife has a friend who i've been

937
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:13.640
told has supernatural abilities. Yeah,
I know, to unzip your pants.

938
01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:17.199
WHOA, hey, he's married,
dude, Well married, doesn't stop the

939
01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:21.560
power? No no, no,
so now now no, now's where she

940
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:28.479
gets totally real. Okay, Zombie
Master writes, even though he does control

941
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.439
a horde of undead flesh devouring monsters, he's a skeptic. Yet this person,

942
01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:34.680
in a phone call with himself and
his wife, was able to tell

943
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:40.119
him things about himself that really only
his wife knew, and she swears she

944
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:45.439
never spoke to this person about these
details, but she was able to really

945
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:50.199
describe some very specific things about him
and his personality and some things how he

946
01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:54.640
reacts to things, what type of
music, things like that that were really

947
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:59.039
really spot on, um like beyond
like, oh, that's kind of cool

948
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:01.840
that you figured that out, like
like alarmingly correct. Okay, he uses

949
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.399
the phrase spooky correct. Colum.
So, he asked his wife about this

950
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:10.000
person, and it turns out that
she could hear things in a person's voice,

951
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:13.840
which she says is that Claire audio. Also, she could see things

952
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.840
in person, but even just sending
a picture would yield some results, and

953
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:23.039
she can see things up to six
months in the future that are almost always

954
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.439
correct. I actually read this whole
thing thinking it was a setup for a

955
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:29.800
really great pun. It's not.
This is just a true story. Yeah,

956
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:31.640
so he says, I'm at odds
with this, unlike the other things

957
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:40.159
that don't exist, like bigfoot jackalopes
who Republicans who care about America. Only

958
01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:44.359
because he's been a direct witness to
these abilities that he's like, Wow,

959
01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:46.239
that's, you know what, hooray
for things that like make you go holy

960
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:51.880
shit. Keep us posted on what
was foreseen and how that pans out.

961
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:58.520
I don't want to go out on
a limb too far to say that we

962
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.239
want to talk to this person.
Oh I don't. I don't want to

963
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:05.720
know anything about me or my future, don't you though? Nope, to

964
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:11.000
come on, like if somebody,
if somebody was just they they we called

965
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:14.319
him up and they were like,
yeah, I can tell from your voice

966
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:19.399
that X y Z no having never
you know, have this being a total

967
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:25.920
stranger. Do you remember when we
did our tarot cards and you pretty accurately

968
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:30.359
called like the next couple months of
my life sure, because I'm awesome,

969
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.359
because you're awesome. I didn't like
that. I didn't like it when it

970
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:38.199
happened. I didn't like it as
it was happening, and I didn't like

971
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:40.800
it at the end, looking back
and going wow, he was totally right.

972
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:44.119
Sometimes we don't like what happens in
life. That's I'm saying. I

973
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:47.000
accept it. Yeah I don't.
I know you you can talk to it.

974
01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:51.439
Oh, no, thank you,
that's all. That's a hell of

975
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:58.399
a cool story though, thanks Zombie
Master. Zombie Master heard from listener Will

976
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:02.760
Hello. Will, Will says,
love the show. I thank you.

977
01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:06.359
I've gone through all the archive,
most of it twice since I was forced

978
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:14.960
to listen to an episode by his
wife, Stephanie. Nice husband and wife

979
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:17.720
do it. I love it when
people force people to listen to our podcast.

980
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:23.279
Now. He can't wait for Tuesdays
to come in and in these days

981
01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:27.840
Wednesdays. But shut up so he
can he can get his taste. As

982
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:31.720
long as he get says taste.
What do you need from us, blurry

983
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:34.880
photoman to turn this into a day
job. Well, just keep doing what

984
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:38.119
you're doing, brother, Yeah,
that's it. We just need to read

985
01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:40.760
the gospel or me. Yeah,
that's all. That's all we need from

986
01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:43.399
you guys. By the way,
if you're looking for a pair of boot

987
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:47.199
serve a flannel that will last you
an astonishing amount of time without ever looking

988
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:51.319
old or wrote worn down. You
should check out the fine goods at L.

989
01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:58.079
L. Macrow b and nice well
done. That's a deep pun.

990
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:01.119
That's I like. I like the
complexity of that pun. See you on

991
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:06.479
Twitter. Will not world wide West, I almost did it, but it's

992
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:13.159
just will bite your tongue. Thank
you, will, thank you sir,

993
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:17.079
and thank you Stephanie yeah for tending
will onto that In the podcast, oh

994
01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:23.920
I had to saying. We got
an email from Danielle who dan Yelle.

995
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:30.000
Some folks in Michigan might pronounce that
Danelle. Really they'd be wrong? Did

996
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:34.359
they really really fucking wrong? Yeah? Tragically wrong? Like taking up not

997
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:38.960
even people in Kentucky, see Danielle. Yeah, there's there's worse people than

998
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:44.319
Kentuckians when it comes to diction.
Any Hootaly, Hey, what a minor

999
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:49.520
phrase you just entered. Did I
just declare war on the home of my

1000
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:57.439
favorite beverage? I almost said?
Danielle writes, So we're all fascinated with

1001
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:01.079
the first Vandyke scale, and we're
wondering where Keano reeves playing Jonathan Harker in

1002
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:06.359
bram Stoker's Dracula would rate excellent question. Yeah, I'm a few episodes behind,

1003
01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:10.119
and you may have already covered it
as I'm sure you probably get that

1004
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:15.319
question a lot. Thanks Daniel.
You know what, it's definitely towards the

1005
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:19.039
Van Dyke end. He I don't
think he even registers it's that bad.

1006
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:23.920
But I mean, but that's the
thing. I mean. The Firth Vandyke

1007
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:30.760
scale is from the most areadyke British
accent, that being Colin Firth, to

1008
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:35.880
the world's most clanging bucket over the
head being hit with a wooden spoon British

1009
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:41.880
accent, that being Dick van Dyke
in Mary Poppins. Now it correct me

1010
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:45.920
if I'm wrong. From what I
remember, Keanu Reeves didn't really attempt a

1011
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:49.079
British accent, did he? Oh? Yeah he did, did he?

1012
01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:57.600
Yeah? It's well, that's the
point. I think that's maybe that's what

1013
01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:00.640
Daniel's asking. I would put it
define. I would say, I would

1014
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:06.000
say you could probably fit seven actors
between Kano Reeves and Dick van Dyke on

1015
01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:13.199
that end of the scale. What
who in the history of bad British accents?

1016
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:16.880
Yeah, Oh, you're gonna have
to it's a lot of people I

1017
01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:20.960
know, but it's because such a
bad accent. British accents pretty badly,

1018
01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:25.880
I mean and evenly. It could
be even Kano Reeves in some other movie.

1019
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:30.079
Well let me tell you why.
I mean, I can't, I

1020
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:32.079
can't give an exact position, but
I would say definitely towards the Van Dyke

1021
01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:36.000
end of the scale. Yeah,
I would say close enough to be kissing

1022
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:40.319
on Dick van Dyke. Yeah.
Well, the problem is is that,

1023
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:45.439
like it's a accent for lack of
effort. Yeah, that's I mean,

1024
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.479
you you weren't even sure, you
know, it's if I just speak softly

1025
01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:53.319
enough, maybe this is an English
accent that's not an you know, whereas

1026
01:27:53.399 --> 01:28:00.079
like that's what I love about Dick
van Dyke is Mary piden Skull. Yeah,

1027
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:06.479
well he aims for the target and
then just like aims with a bazooka.

1028
01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:10.800
Right, Yeah, but yeah,
I see what you're saying. Yeah,

1029
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.600
it's it's tough because yeah, do
you how do you rate a week

1030
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:18.000
attempt? Oh man, you can't
even love it because it's so weak.

1031
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.399
You're right, it might not fall
on the scale, it might not be

1032
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:26.960
scalable. Tough, good question,
Dan, good question. Danielle played,

1033
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:32.920
all right, Dave, we heard
from Amy. I gotta be so mean.

1034
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:36.920
Why does she get it? I
think she might address that. She

1035
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:43.760
might. Well, she links us
to a video about to see an end

1036
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:48.800
reporter that's attacked by a ghost,
apparently in Pennsylvania. She lives in Pennsylvania.

1037
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:54.880
In Pennsylvania considering visiting this place.
She hasn't yet seen anything about ghosts

1038
01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:58.680
that can't be explained by psychology or
physics, but she's willing to be proven

1039
01:28:59.039 --> 01:29:01.720
wrong, much like us. Yeah, yeah, what I don't know,

1040
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:06.720
like who knows? Ye, agreed, agreed. It's it's fun go to

1041
01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:12.119
it and see see if you get
to you know, cost it. She's

1042
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.880
still catching up archives. That's that's
cool. That's cool and doable. Did

1043
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:18.720
we know that Dylan Thomas wrote a
poem about one of our subjects? No?

1044
01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:21.359
I didn't. Did you know that? It's quite famous? He wrote,

1045
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:26.239
do not go beck Ley Teppe into
that good night though sun should burn

1046
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:30.760
and rave at close of day?
Rage, rage against the burying of the

1047
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:35.880
site. Nice. Well, that
is that is powerful. That is compound.

1048
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:40.880
Yeah words smithy, Yeah, should
talk to Connor about that, And

1049
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:45.680
she says she wouldn't describe herself as
mean, but she'd probably be lying a

1050
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:50.479
dam why you gotta uh, she's
got more, She's got more. Okay,

1051
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:55.640
just listen to the EVP clip the
oh the waters thing that we that

1052
01:29:55.760 --> 01:30:00.279
we found again, that that disappeared
and then we found h She says,

1053
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:03.199
she's got a question. Okay.
According to Wikipedia, yes, the gold

1054
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:09.399
standard of scholarly pursues it is paranormal. Claims for the origin of EVP include

1055
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:15.239
living humans imprinting thoughts directly on an
electronic medium through psychokinesis, and communication by

1056
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:21.119
discarnate entities such as spirits, nature, energies, beings from other dimensions,

1057
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:28.000
or extra terrestrials. If we accept
this, and she says, she doesn't

1058
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:30.840
see why she should, but she'll
allow it for this time. Why is

1059
01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:35.880
the water recorded? It's a really
good point. How does the water imprint

1060
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:41.399
it sound? Does water have consciousness? Is this a homeopathic? Well?

1061
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:45.359
If it's the energy of the place, who says murder while they're killing someone?

1062
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:50.199
The whole thing just seemed really fakey. Why would an EVP have sound

1063
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:58.359
effects? Great point, great points, way to dive into that and tart

1064
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:02.039
as under. Yeah, deep also
have we considered setting up a forum somewhere

1065
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:06.479
so she can bother all the other
listeners rather than us with wondering. Yeah,

1066
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:10.920
new new website. We should have
a forum going there and then we'd

1067
01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:14.119
have fun. Yeah. I think
everybody would get along and have fun discussions.

1068
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:17.000
Oh man, I no one on
the internet gets along. I look

1069
01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:20.520
forward to the moment we have to
moderate it. Somebody's to be like boss,

1070
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:27.239
boss boss dude. Maybe that's a
good points. And that's also a

1071
01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:30.520
fair point. Yeah, but that
doesn't mean we wouldn't do it. It's

1072
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.319
still worth doing. We can see. We'll think about it. Also sends

1073
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:38.439
a fun suggestion. Thank you,
Amy, thank you again. She says,

1074
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:41.199
thank you again for an excellent show. Well, we we'd love to

1075
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:44.039
do it for you, right,
damn right, and thanks for writing in

1076
01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:46.840
Yeah, all right and rounding out
this mail bag. We got an email

1077
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:54.560
from Diane, who Anne, we
do it. All these people are by

1078
01:31:54.640 --> 01:32:03.640
men and they're women. Somebody told
me that's how you get a song out

1079
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.279
of your head, Like if you
just have the chorus of a song stuck

1080
01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:13.680
in your head like aby my God
would be so mean. Uh men,

1081
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:16.199
And and that's supposed to it's supposed
to break the cycle. I don't know.

1082
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:21.000
Diane writes, uh, like your
show, thank you awfully nice you

1083
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:27.840
even if your candy chat seems somewhat
self serving, our candy chat, because

1084
01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:34.000
we're serving ourselves candy, we're not. Yeah. I feel like Diane's the

1085
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:38.239
kind of person that goes to Disney
World and asks like Tinkerbell, like,

1086
01:32:38.439 --> 01:32:42.319
so where do you live? Where
are you from? You got? You

1087
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.720
got? How are your parents?
Would you study in school? Yeah?

1088
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:53.079
Exactly. Everyone just goes, how
about a show about drones? Now,

1089
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:57.560
granted this is from the beginning part
of April, so when drones were hot,

1090
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.399
when drones were so hot, then
well I think we touched on a

1091
01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:05.520
little bit in a Robots episode.
We got into some yeah, exah my

1092
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:11.600
personal response to drones, Um,
she finds them disturbing. I'm pretty sure

1093
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:14.680
you two science heads could come up
with something really rewarding for us. All

1094
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:17.880
right, keep up the good world
now hang on. But for science heads,

1095
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:27.560
I'm a science but it's all about
science. I got science thighs.

1096
01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:32.760
It's hard for me to find pants
that will fit right. Keep up the

1097
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:36.800
good work. I had my fingers
crossed for the upcoming podcast awards. Well,

1098
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:41.359
and that's how far behind we are. Yeah, thank you very much

1099
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:45.159
for yeah, for voting and working
towards that end. And we won second

1100
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:49.239
place, so says I, because
I don't go any better, so I

1101
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:54.800
claim second place ahead of Neil de
grass Tyson. So thank you. Then,

1102
01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:58.119
thank you everyone who takes the time
to I know that we're a little

1103
01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:01.560
I'm done every time I apologize,
I can't. Everyone gets it. Well,

1104
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:05.279
I'll tell you what. We might
have a mail bag to clean up

1105
01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:11.079
the dirty laundry. And then oh
so that maybe not again. So our

1106
01:34:11.159 --> 01:34:13.880
listeners, shut up, shut up, shut up, up. Just their

1107
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:15.920
letters are dirty laundry. You didn't
shut up when I asked you too,

1108
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:20.439
so you really Yeah, what what
I do? Flora? You connected the

1109
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:25.159
dots for them, So shut up, silence me, because I'm the voice

1110
01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:27.359
of the peach up, shut up, shut up, shut up. You

1111
01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:30.359
know peppers? Bring me? You're
gonna kettle me. It's too political for

1112
01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:34.039
my taste. Dude, you can
kettle you wait, kettle yeah, what's

1113
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:40.000
kettle kettling? It's when I'm like, when people protest and they take they

1114
01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:43.960
put them into little tiny holding areas
so they can be monitored and they don't

1115
01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:46.720
get to be a kettling. It
was a big deal during the entire Wall

1116
01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:49.640
Street. Yeah, I don't know
where your go to Facebook though, and

1117
01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:54.439
like, go to Twitter, follow
us on blurry, underscore photos, rate

1118
01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:57.800
us five stars and iTunes. Yep, donate to us please, Yeah,

1119
01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:01.600
do all those appreciate, don't forget
audible trial, slash blurry photos, get

1120
01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:06.560
your free book, get us a
high five. And even as you listen

1121
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:12.159
to this, this is not a
lie and this is not Oh we hope

1122
01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:15.760
this works out. T shirts are
being printed as you hear this. Multiple

1123
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:21.119
T shirts are getting thrown out of
a print shop into a box lovingly folded

1124
01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:28.079
by a chupacabra. Yep, we
hired a chiopacabra. You know why because

1125
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:30.279
you donated to us and we could
afford it. It's right, we could

1126
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.720
afford it. You don't have to
pay taxes on a cheep aicabra, that's

1127
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.039
right. We could buy all the
goats for it to suck. Yeah,

1128
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:42.159
those are easy. So yeah,
so as soon as Flora's back from Ireland,

1129
01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:45.439
Yeah, is that where you're going? That's that's where I'm going.

1130
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:47.039
That's where I am right now.
As soon as Flaura's back, we cry

1131
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:51.399
havoc and let loose the dogs of
commerce, and those dogs are all wearing

1132
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:57.600
a Blurry Photo shirt. Also where
we are very near announcing our live show

1133
01:35:57.720 --> 01:36:00.520
date. Yes we are so great, so um. Look for all that

1134
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:04.399
in the future, but for now, look for part two of the Alien

1135
01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:10.279
Taxonomy, where we actually taxonomize aliens, where we make good. I'm a

1136
01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:15.920
lie that was the first episode.
Anyways. For this episode of Blurry Photos,

1137
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:23.800
I have been David close encounter of
the Flora's kind nice and I have

1138
01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:31.279
been Dave this episode's sober driver Stecco, and I'm just I'm just getting worse

1139
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:40.159
and worse. Those middle finger guns
away to fight her gun but way not

1140
01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:47.039
giving me the middle finger, double
barreled into the face Flora. Laura,

1141
01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:51.680
don't let him take me away.
Sorry, double barreled finger. Give me

1142
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:56.279
the finger. Fe