What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three, episode five.
I think counting all the lives we've done, get it together, man
of clips, and I'm frazzled. These midweek holidays have me thrown off.
We hope everyone had a great fourth. I am Chuck Mockler, joined by
Will Updyke and Adam Oslin coming us from his friend's place in NorCal. It's
gonna be a good time today. We're talking about the Clippers have lost what
they've gained. It's been a whirlwind since last weekend's weekend of lives. I
feel like we had after the Paul George and the James Harden stuff, before
we get into the new guys, before we didn't get into what might be
next. Adam, will how you guys doing? How was your fourth?
Will you go first? I had a great fourth? I saw you actually,
So that was pretty Uh that was a pretty good time. Uh,
not beating the do they live together allegations? But no, it was great.
You know, It's I wonder. It kind of had me thinking,
like I was remembering that Fourth of July, obviously the most notorious in Clippers
fan history, and I was just kind of thinking to myself, like what
what is that next domino going to be for the Clippers? Like what is
that? Are they going to end up making, you know, a big
swing this summer or is it going to be a situation where we're going to
have to wait a little while to acquire another big free agent? Like that?
Interesting waited? I was not thinking about the Clippers at all. Yesterday
I had grill master, responsiblity visual, I was. I was very casual
yesterday. I had to focus on the grill and I think everyone at the
barbecue was, now you uh it, Adam, how is your fourth?
That was pretty good. I put down the smoke bombs and the sparklers and
let the kids handle that stuff and just watch and observe from a distance,
a safe distance. Nobody lost a hand. Nobody lost a hand. One
of my buddies did blow up his hand one time in Mexico, but just
got on some morphine, started talking ship to everybody while he was on it,
and then eventually healed and eighties. He had a string. But we
gotta be careful. But it uh, it's weird and nostalgic. And I'm
up in NorCal you know where I'm from, And Sacramento. So I've had
time to kind of ruminate a little bit too and decompress after the fast and
furious type of Clippers weekend we had with those four shows we did in three
days, all lives last week. If you missed any of them, check
ab out. We had it covered the whole situation with Paul Georgia Moore.
Yeah, we covered, I mean extensively everything that we know so far about
free agency. So if you if you if you need a ketchup or a
refresher, I would recommend checking those out, Yes, and you can find
those at YouTube dot com, slash at Clippers podcast or anywhere you listen to
podcasts. So now that's kind of what we were gonna tile. First.
Where the Clippers stand if you're just a casual deciding to listen for the first
time. The Clippers have lost Mason Plumbley. PJ. Tucker doesn't see long
for the roster, Russell Westbrook, there's a pending trade. They're trying to
find a team to take Russell Westbrook right now to also help facilitate this Chris
Dunn deal. It's easy's going to the Russ stands right, It shouldn't be
hard to find the guy to replace what is his four and a half million
dollar contract or five million dollars that he opted into, likely because there weren't
gonna be any other offers out there, which is pretty wild at this point.
I know he's turning thirty six, but maybe the rest of the league
was also watching the playoff series where he went eight for forty two the last
five games. It was very unfortunate, and I like Russ, but I
there's no way to explain away what happened. I guess the Dallas Mavericks easily
and really what he's been throughout his playoff career, but it's it's tough right
now. I guess to find that landing spot. Yeah, I mean,
I think like this is the I feel like we always get hit with the
he you know, Tylo didn't use him in the right way. You know,
he was forced to try to play a different stile of play, and
I think if you look at the number of suitors out there in the league,
I mean, it feels pretty apparent that it's a puzzle piece that nobody
is thinking is going to really be able to compliment the team at this juncture.
Otherwise, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be able to snag
a minimum offer from another team. And that's and supposedly it's the Nuggets who
have apparently Jokic wants Russell Westbrook, which go off King, I would love
what if the Nuggets got Russell Westbrook. Mostly if they can make it work
with Russell Westbrook, more power to them. Sure, I will wait with
to see how that will go. I agree. So that's yeah. So
supposedly the Clippers the Chris Dun deal that that's just kind of hung up.
The deal is the done deal of done deal? Well, I think I
think the lob of the jam will be the first one to know. Go
show them some love on Twitter too. Chaff had to be excited. Then,
of course Paul George went to the seventy six ers. The Clippers have
gained Derek Jones, Junior, Mobamba, Nick batoom is back. We talked
on Chris Dunn, Kevin Porter Junior probably not gonna do anything for this team.
And then there's a maybe gained guy that I wanted to talk about.
After we kind of talk about, you know, the guys that we've gained.
We haven't really all talked about this on the pod kind of since all
the moves have been like cemented Adam Howe. I mean, the more I
kind of read into the Derek Jones Junior stuff, I'm very excited to see
what he looks like in the starting five as the three for the Clippers.
Yeah, I think it's a great signing. I don't know if it was
a coincidence or not that you lose Paul George and then bring in the guy
that locked him down and held him to nineteen points per game and taking only
fifteen shots in that series against the Dallas Mavericks. He was the best defender
on the floor for both teams when it came to impact on that series.
It was really just Game four, in the first half of Game four where
Paul George really got loose offensively at a really efficient rate. So the one
thing I'll say about Derek Jones Junior, I do like the signing overall very
much because it looks like to me that they're trying to build a defensive identity.
And I went back and we talked about this throughout the season, how
bad the Clippers were shockingly batted on the defensive end, considering they ended up
being the four seed in the Western Conference because their offense was so elite and
overpowering and outstanding once things started to roll with James Harden, but the last
seventy games of the season, guys, So minus the first twelve, the
Clippers were twenty first defensively the last seventy games of the season, and there
were moments, and obviously I don't think the defense is what suffered so much
of the playoff series. I did think they flipped the switch on that end
were much better. It was offensively where they couldn't get much going against the
Dallas Mavericks defense, but still they should always be better than that how they
had on the team. So I was on with Doug Gottlieb on Fox Sports
Radio yesterday talking about the move, and he kind of pushed back when I
said, look, they're trying to build a defensive identity here. They're doing
basically the best they can having lost Paul George, as he said, well,
they're no longer a contender, and I said, it's hard to argue
they are at this point. But I will say if you bring in there
Jones, Junior, Nicholas Batoum, and Chris Dunn, you can at least
have much more of an identity, a defensive identity out there than they had
all of last season. I don't think there's any way that they're gonna end
up that bad for that long of a time twenty first for seventy games,
defensively with the type of personnel they have now with those point of attack defenders.
The one thing though about Derek Jones Junior is, guys, I think
some of what he did in the playoffs three point shooting wise, has to
translate now to the regular season because if you look at his overall numbers in
his career from three, he is only a thirty one percent three point shooter.
So he shot thirty four percent in the regular season last year for the
Dallas Mavericks. That's still below league average. But in the playoffs he was
about thirty seven percent and was much better throughout the Western Conference runs of the
finals, where then the numbers kind of fell off. But I want to
say he only took it was a low volume, about sixty five to three
pointers throughout their playoff run, so it wasn't huge. You can't put a
ton into that, but what you can hope is that he's twenty seven and
if guys are gonna leave him open like they did in the playoffs, he's
gonna make teams pay now in the regular season two and just at least get
to league average. He's got to be around thirty six percent from the outside
for the Clippers for this really to be a home run, slam dunk type
of move. I think, yeah, I'm hoping. Wow, I don't
realize it was that low, but yes, that does need to be That
really does need to be close to leave average. I knew he wasn't exactly
a knockdown shooter. Yeah, you mentioned the defense thing. I saw a
stat on Twitter that he guarded uh the number one like the opponent's team scoring
ball handler. He was number one in the amount of time that he guarded
them percentage wise over the season in the NBA. So he's used to tough
assignments. You know. It's not like they were giving that to Luker Kyrie
for the MAVs. So he's used to kind of iron sharpening iron in that
sense. And this also with Terrence Man and with Derek Jones. This is
just another guy to help out Kawhi Leonard in terms of not having to be
on the number one option the entire game, which I'm pretty hyped for.
Yeah, he also brings youth and bounced to the to the team, which
is like, you know, the youth thing was something that was just achingly
apparent for this team during the regular season. The way they sort of limped
out of the All Star break, you know it, it was just you
saw time and time again, like you know, just effort and pace could
could really sort of put this team on the ropes, pat them on their
heels, even with the immense amount of talent on this team, and you
know, they could climb out of it at times. But just being able
to, you know, insert a little bit of youthful energy into that starting
lineup I think is I think is huge. And did we get Derek Jones
Junior on a slight overpay? I mean yeah, I think so. I
think we only in total offered him like three million more than the MAVs.
I think he was offered three for twenty seven. We gave him three for
thirty. So it's you know, like a slight overpay to take him from
a contender. But if he could get that three point shooting number, like
if he's even a thirty six percent three point shooter during the regular season.
I mean, that's significant enough. And it's not of course, it's not
great, it's not you know, it's not blowing your socks off. But
that's enough to open up the floor and then you know, he can use
his athleticism and what he provides on the defensive end. I think I think
it's a solid pickup p Like, is it enough to replace Paul George?
Obviously not, but uh, you know, it is a guy who can,
for an eighty two game series maintain a very high level of two way
play. So I do enjoy that. And we get so he's twenty seven,
so we're getting like a million dollars of season extra. Feels like,
eh, sure whatever. And he's twenty seven. He's gonna be out of
this contract when he's thirty as an unrestricted free agent, which means this isn't
a contract year, but the years. Yeah, we're getting his prime years,
and then we assuming he's still on the team for that last year of
this contract, we're getting contract year twenty nine to thirty year old Derek Jones
Junior, which if they can, you know, if things trend well and
he gets better with the things, he needs to shore up and kind of
you know, keeps being a good cutter, keeps being a lob threat,
keeps being good in transition. That's gonna be a nice like it's just gonna
be a good place for the Clippers to be in again. Theoretically, I
love it as a building block piece. I found one of my tweets,
my play by play tweets during every Clippers game at follow out of May on
X, I put a retweet on one of them, which was early on.
I can't remember if it was game five or game six or game four,
but he had a block, a sequence of a block on James Harden
at the rim, and then he dunked on Paul George on the other end
right afterwards, and that was all in one suite. And it's like,
this is I guess who Derek Jones Junior can be the athleticism that Will is
talking about. He won the Dunk Contest right in twenty twenty. He won
it with Miami, I believe. And he does have the nickname Airplane Mode,
which is one of the best nicknames twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, good call. It's legit bounced like the Clippers have never had in
the two one three era really where you could throw it up and go get
it, and having someone like James Harden being the guy dishing to him,
that's huge. That could make him much better. I know he had Luca
and Kyrie, but James Harden is a great law passer. I just thought
of something I want to see, which between Derek Jones Junior and Terrence Man,
the Clippers have two really good cutters in the starting five, which is
great. I want to see. This just popped in my head because we've
seen Jokic do it with Aaron Gordon, and I'm not comparing these two players
in ability. But if we see a Zoo hardened pick and roll, Zoo
gets the ball in the short roll and then finds Derek Jones Junior cutting baseline
for an oop, I think Clippers Twitter is gonna lose its mind. And
I don't think that's out of the realm of possibilities for things that could maybe
happen not routinely, but I think a Zoo to Derek Jones Jr. Is
not out of the question. If this could open up the possibility. I'm
not saying I want this, I'm not saying I'm asking for this, we
talk about regrouping without Paul George and the amount of options they have under the
first apron. Now, one of the other options that Derek Jones Junior brings
is, well, you have that point of attack defender. Could they end
up trading Terence Man because they have Derek Jones Junior now because he's extension eligible
Man and throughout last season when he was asked about the contract stuff, he
didn't love that question as much as Karen's man can be, you know,
polite. Yeah, he uh, he pushed back a little bit. No,
that's table, that's that's not happening. So I almost wonder if this
is somewhat insurance in case they made some bigger move where they had to include
Terrence Man for a team that is willing to give him whatever the extension is.
That's not a bad I don't want to say he's a replacement for Terrence
Man, but it's not a bad pivot should something like that happen. I
hope on trade Terrence, well, go ahead, sorry, like you had
Oh no, not at all, But I like, I think that's super
valid having some sort of like backup play or redundancy, not the same player
for different players to me. But yeah, I think if I was Terrence,
I think I would intend to at least put some feelers out to the
rest of the league and see what's going on there. He's spent the entirety
of his career here, He's never gotten to control where his destination is.
He's constantly in the mill, in the rumor mill of of you know,
a trade piece, which who knows how how serious any of that stuff actually
ends up becoming. But you can't feel with this organization and this team like
completely solidified that you know you're going to be in Los Angeles at the India
your contract. So I think if I was him, you know, I
certainly couldn't fall him from wanting to test the market and test the waters.
And we know obviously that it has a huge tie to the Massachusetts area from
being from Lowell, and he would be a fucking incredible fit team. I
don't want to think about that at all. Yeah, no, no,
no, no, But I agree with that him. It does. It
also just gives you one extra move. I don't want to see Terrence traded,
just to be perfectly clear, but it just does give you one extra
move to sort of maneuver. I'd rather see terrace Man get a shot with
more opportunities on offense. Now with alt Paul George spread around, we need
it right he shot attempts to make up for the loss of him. But
I do think there's a little bit of a question as much as you could
lean into defense with this starting five, should Derek Jones Junior be in it?
If you're saying it's James Harden, terrace Man, Dereck Jones, Kawhi
Leonard still playing the four to beat to Zoobos, that's a great starting five
defensively, outside of James Harden, everybody can really guard at a very high
level. But is there enough shot creation and firepower in that starting five?
I don't know. I think we're gonna have. We're gonna have to wait
ten fifteen games to get that figured out. But right off the top of
my head, you know, like you said, Terrence Man's role has to
get expand on offense, so does Zoo's Zoo. I think that's the biggest
question right It is like, how can they make Zoo a more integrated piece
into the offense, and that I think if if they can go back to
that and we have seen it be very successful. Then to me, the
answer is yes, there there is a way that they can come up with
the shot creation uh that they can you know, play through Zoo not all
the time, but at points to lighten some of the load for the other
guys and with having younger guys. Yes, dere Jones Junior doesn't have the
shot, but he is more he is more of a lob threat. He's
got a little bit more giddy up than Paul George. Did I mean that
times? For sure? I think, and so like, there are options.
It's not the same offense. It's definitely a different offense. It'll probably
be uglier at times. But the big question is are they willing to trust
in the Viza Zubots to be a larger full from on the offensive? En,
I'm fine with accepting they're not going to be a top five offense,
but they can. Can they still be six through ten somewhere and they still
be in that range with the defense now being top ten. If you have
that type of balance, I think you're still in really good shape. But
to Will's point about Aviza Zubos, that's it if they actually feature him consistently
now where he was thriving with James Harden in December and January, right before
he got injured with the calf injury and was getting twelve and ten every night.
And then let's not forget he was the second best player for the Clippers
in that series. It wasn't Paul George. It was a Vita Zubos averaging
sixteen to nine and Game one going for twenty and fifteen. So lean into
it. You have James Harden. That makes every big man he plays with
better. You have a really good big man, especially skill wise compared to
some of the guys that were just rim runners that Harden had before. Beats
a Zoobots has enough where you can dump it down to him on the block
and let him go to work. He really does. It's very real.
And now someone backing up or competing for the chance to back up, I
eats Zoobots. The Clipper sign Mo Bamba, which you know, seven foot
tall, can post, can shoot from three a little bit doesn't really have
any post moves to speak of that he can hit routinely, but young energetic
legs trying to see what he can do. I mean for a backup center
position. I'm assuming it's going to be more productive to Mason Plumbing, I
think, but I don't know. Will How do you feel about Baba?
I think it's like an interesting like sort of I can see the raw potential.
Well, I don't know if I'm ready to get there with him being
the number two backing up of Vitza Zubats. He could change my mind obviously
throughout the course of the season, but right now, yeah, right now,
I'm just not saying it. Obviously. The offensive skill set is a
step down from you know, what's what's been successful offensively for our centers and
guys like Plumbley or Isaiah Hertenstein. And I just don't know, like defensively
better than better than Plumbley, probably a better decision maker just because he's never
been as showy of an offensive player. But I just don't know. I
don't He's got to show it. Yeah, I just don't think that he's
like he's a better defender for sure. I don't know that he's there defensively
enough to be the number two or if we should still keep that position in
flux and either make another addition or hope that Kai Jones is able to sort
of morph into that role. As well. I to me, the backup
center is still very much a question mark. I think we have a couple
of incomplete answers, but like the question hasn't fully been answered for me as
to who's really backing up with Vizza Zoubats. I thought Robert Flahm, big
shot Bob Flahm wrote up a really good article about Mobama as soon as he
signed and revealed a little bit of the rebounding percentage numbers. Basically, he's
a much better rebounder, not much better, much better than Daniel Tice because
of his lack of size, and a little bit better than Mason Plumley as
well. And rebounding wasn't exactly you know, Plumbley's biggest weakness. It was
just picking out a position all the time defensively. When it came to defensive
numbers. When it came to efficiency within six ft of the rim teams for
shooting sixty four percent on Mobamba there, which isn't great. You'd want to
see that be a little bit higher. I did look though at the Philadelphia
seventy six ers, and their defensive rating was two points better with him on
the floor last year, which is kind of interesting. Considering. I mean,
they're a pretty good defensive team. They have Joelbeid He's a really good
rim protector. So I think he has the potential, especially because he's still
what twenty five years of age, to really prove himself and show something.
But there's a lot of inconclusive boxes to check off right now with Mobamba and
who he can be in this league exactly. I thought he was really gonna
thrive when he came to the Lakers a couple years ago. I was concerned
that, oh no, they just got to steal here him coming away from
Orlando. But he actually shot his lowest three point percentage with the Lakers at
I think thirty one percent. He did, but he was a thirty nine
percent last year. It was just one shot, one attempt one to three
per game. But on four attempts during the twenty one to twenty two season
with Orlandos seventy one games, four attempts for three, he shot thirty eight
percent. He is a career thirty six three point shooter. I do think
that is real. They may be daring him to take that shot still,
because you know he's that big, and I don't know what you're gonna do
anyways against the seven footer or who can shoot over the top of you like
that. But I think he can stretch the four a little bit. What
I want to know is, is a Visa Zubas gonna get thirty plus minutes
per night, because then that helps a much less to worry about with the
backup big if he's only getting fourteen or fifteen minutes out there, and I
think that's a great point. Who was more than earned it, right?
I mean last season he was at twenty six minutes per game, that was
lower than the year before. And with what he just in the playoffs,
with how he's looked with James Harden, I think he should be around thirty
one to thirty two minutes per night and another productive summer. He's killing an
international ball right now. Did you see what he did to Luca Dodgers and
the falls? No, I I mean, yeah, more more minutes forer
zoo does alleviate the backup center questions, but I think, yeah, it
is. It's another It's yet another year of kind of what's the backup center
situation gonna look like? For the Clippers. We're just kind of perpetually in
this now. What They signed Kai Jones today? Uh? Yeah, today,
I yeah, they signed him. He's gonna be there for summer League
probably or he get hurt. I thought he hurt his ankle or something and
might not be able to do summer league. Oh, for that would be
quite the setback for Let me look, because yeah, he wasn't on the
team until it wasn't official official. I think till today, a lot of
people assumed he'd be there for summer League with the Los Angeles Clippers. But
now it looks like he's getting a real shot. Yeah. Why did I
think he got hurt for some reason? Well, never mind, just strike
that from the record. But I thought he had an ankle thing and it
was going to keep him out somewhat. Inserts a joke if he's a Clipper,
and that's why you thought he got hurt exactly. And then another guy
who was coming back for the Clippers, we got Nick Putum back, which
just feels great. I don't think anyone's upset about this move. I hope
he doesn't. I'm interested to see what his minutes, but I'm this feels
good. I don't think there's no bad things to say about this, right
We talked about the possibility of it on a podcast over the weekend. I
did say if they signed, if Nicholas Patum came back to the Clippers,
I would be rooting for France this summer. So I actually went out and
bought a Nick Patom jersey of France. Jersey really coming in the mail.
I'll be wearing it. I don't care if they're playing TVUSA well at France.
I'm all in with Nicholas Patum being back with the Clippers. I just
I'm ecstatic. Everybody's so happy about that because it's not just a feel good
signing. His utility that they missed so much last season is still there.
If you saw him win that playing game for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Okay, sorry, I found the tweet from law July third, kai Jones
has an ankle injury that will keep him out of summer league. Per source,
Another sat back after he had a hamstr injury. So that sucks for
kai Jones and that back. That deal is non guaranteed though, and so
I don't know if the I mean, I don't know if it if it's
his like previous sort of mental health issues, or if it's the injury stuff,
but it is a non guaranteed deal. Yeah, and then the Clippers
got Chris Dunn TBD, but another you know, defensive guy for point of
attack defense coming off the bench. We're gonna take a break in a second
talk about the glutt of guards that we have right now. But yeah,
I hope the Chris Done signing gets figured out because I having a defensive minded
backup point be the number two would feel really good for this team. I
think an elite defensive minded on the defensive end, he is elite in that
area. You look at all the numbers, he's incredible. He's not a
great offensive player, he never has been, which is why he's never gotten
a you know, a ton of minutes out there. But he's more than
serviceable. I saw it was a doctor Schapp who was putting out some of
his numbers. When it came to floaters from Chris Dunn and from five to
nine feet out, it was forty six percent last year, which was twentieth
among guards. The year before he was third. From five to nine feet
out he was in almost fifty five percent. And both of those numbers from
five to nine feet out from Chris Dunn that you shot the last couple of
years. That's better than any Clipper regard shot from five to nine feet out
last season. There we go. So there's some positives. Let's hope the
deal gets done. Let's go Denver gets rusted, right, I'm a fan.
I also think though, what does that mean for Terrence Man? What
does it mean for Bones Island? I guess we'll get into it. We're
gonna get into it right after this audio break. If you're listening again,
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for the Clippers in three two one. All right, so we ran down
the sort of the big fish so far of the Clippers free agency offseason,
whatever you want to call it. Now on some others pieces of news.
We did sign Cam Christy to a four year deal. And then what's with
this signing? Charles? We have a signing and okay, Versalona signing.
Yes, let's get into it. This was odds. So the Clippers announced
that they'd sign Dinos Mittoglu. I don't know if that's how you pronounce it.
I believe he's Greek. They announced the signing on the website and then
the page was deleted, which was weird. So maybe it was just an
accidental thing. It was a test page thing. I don't know. But
Lawrence Frank went to watch him in Greece already this year. I believe one
time. He's six' ten, He's got some mid post skills, some
athleticism, he can pick and pop, but could be another name to watch
out for. Maybe there might be something weird with how his have to buy
himself out of his contract and how that money relates to like the new CBA
and stuff like that. But it appears that this player might be on the
Clippers radar, So another big who has some pick and pop skills possibly could
be a Clipper at some point. They're really assertion for that backup big.
They're going everywhere, indeed, try to find the perfect fit, to try
to find the Isaiah Hartenstein type of fit. Yeah, whish they did have
a couple of years ago. I did see Lot Murray put out that Isaiah
Hartenstein came in to try to earn that backup spot. He was twenty three.
Kai Jones is in the same spot. That'd be nice, right if
he was Isaiah Heartenstein, that'd be in business. Yes, but we wanted
to talk about Adam. You brought this up. The Clippers have a bunch
of guards right now, James Harden, Terrence Man, Norm Powell Bones,
Chris Dunn, and I guess you could count Kevin Porter Junior on that list.
I don't. I don't think there's any any real playing time. I
don't know. Oh yeah, I actually don't. I don't know it's a
minimum. I don't. I'll look up what it is. I don't think
I believe it's a minimum either way. That's a lot of guards, not
something we're totally unfamiliar with in this Clippers era. But does it feel like
a move's coming? Will? Where are you at? Do you think we're
gonna have this one, two, three, four, six guards on the
roster by opening the garden? Yes, I mean probably, Yeah, Adam,
do do we want six guards on the roster? I think I didn't
say that. Yeah, it is a different question. It is a different
question for sure. Uh. No. We want to lean back into wing
stuff. We want to get back to having more versatility at the wing position,
which the tomb is a great move for that. Dear Joe Jolles Junior
helps with that. We know what Terrence Man can do. You can play
multiple positions. I do think of move's coming. It could end up being
Bones, it could end up being Norman Powell, it could end up being
Terrence Man. I think one of those three guys most likely is not on
the roster for training camp. I don't know what that move is. It's
just conjecture and speculation on my part that they have a grip of guards or
blood of guards and they're not gonna platoon all these guys. It'd be crazy.
You couldn't get a rhythm with rotating. Now. It's not going to
turn into what we saw at the start of the twenty two to twenty three
season, where it was John Wall and Reggie and Luke Canard and Norman Powell.
I don't think they're going back to that. I think they've seen enough
of what can go wrong defensively when you have four guards and three guards out
there at all times. I you know, as much as I love Bones,
I don't know how the Clippers really feel about him. I don't know
how coach lou really feels about him, because he did sulk it times,
it looked like last season, and didn't take advantage at the reps and opportunities
that he got as much as he has shown that to be that spark and
to be electric out there and to be able to help this team and some
real utility with his three point shooting and downhill attack, which he greatly improved
on last season. You could see it. He was much better finishing get
the rim. I don't know if they're you know, willing to wait to
see. And this was somebody who apparently wasn't able to be traded along with
PJ. Tucker at the trade deadline this past season. So I can't say
for certain that Bones is going to be on the team the start of this
year, especially with Kevin Porter junior there now too. Like he's technically,
I mean, the more accomplished guy at the NBA level like he is.
He's had a fifty point game, he's averaged twenty points per game. How
good and how much that attributed to winning with the Rockets. It's like,
well, it's hard to say because the Rockets are just really bad all round,
so it's hard to say if his points were empty stat or if he
was just on a bad team that was rebuilding. Uh. And Kevin Porter's
junior is a minimum two point two this year, two point five next year.
Yeah, with a player option next year, so kind of reprove it
type of thing for him. And yeah, and he's averaged one. I
mean he's like a thirty he's like a thirty minute. He's played a lot
of minutes and there's a much different situation. I don't think it's going to
be bad for sure the Clippers, but I think it's real. I think
it's I think assuming that he's not going to be a piece of the rotation
is I don't think that that's the case. We'll see. I think he
has real sixth seventh man off the bench potential as like a scoring punch type
thing if he is, you know, obviously the off the course stuff.
We talked about that and how he felt about that over the weekend. But
he's got a ton of upsides. Still, There's there's no way around that
he is an electric scorer at times. And do we think I think norm
is he's been the name that's kind of been in the scuttle, but recently.
He's a hard contract to move. I think he's not exact, you
know what I mean, he's he's a scorer. I don't know. We
had him in that trade package for Zach Lavine last week work. I guess
you just got to find the right scenario, right, it's a guy wrong
side of thirty in the NBA. How many years are left on that deal?
Two? This and next year? I believe, so that's time.
It makes it. Yeah it is. Let me double check, nineteen and
then twenty and twenty five, twenty six six men are getting paid around what
he's at, Like that type of player is around sixteen to twenty million now
is a real thing. And look he's one of the best of them.
Yeah, he is as efficient as it gets. Does he offer a lot
else? Know, we've talked about that, but he still supplies a lot
of offense at a high clip from three especially that you need in today's NBA.
Do you think he's worked into Believe it or not, we've heard this
name thrown around to be a Clipper, a John Collins trade. That's again
people are kicking that old dead horse one more time. I know there's been
some grant Williams Scuttle, but just in terms of like guys who could maybe
be gettable to help out on the wing or something like that. But I
mean that's the world in which Norm Palell's moved. He's not moved for another
guard or anything like that. He's moved for a wing that can, at
least, I mean, come off the bench and fill in the minutes that
the Clippers need because Patum can't. You know, he Platune doesn't need some
help off the bench a little bit. I love Nick Patum, but we
talked about the Leeds legs thing before. It would be nice. I mean,
how many misses Patum get a play during the regular season eighteen to twenty
two minutes? And that's fine because he's gonna win his minutes most likely out
there. Sure, but you you know, you know what I'm saying,
though, it would be nice to have more another wing who's helpful. No,
I agree with you. I'm saying, as great as it is that
Nicholas Batum back, he's not gonna be an Inning Zeter playing thirty five minutes
a night. This isn't twenty twenty one. Nick Batoom could he play at
that level in Spurts, I think so. Could he do that for eighty
two games? I don't think so. Yeah, he was playing twenty six
minutes per game for the seventy six ers, which is pretty What was he
playing for the Clippers before they traded him? Eighteen and then twenty two,
twenty five, twenty seven. The most he played was twenty seven. How
do you guys feel about Grant Williams, Because actually I was a pretty big
fan of possibly trying to get him last season because I've watched him a ton
with the Boston Celtics and he was a plus player for them, and I
was kind of shocked at how poorly things went with Dallas. Yeah, oh,
I'm not a fan. Yeah, why, I mean, he's just
he's just still kind of undersized, and to me, he's like more of
like a guard profile. I just don't really see him as offering as much
versatility as like a more true sized sort of wing. Yeah, a good
defender. I guess I'd like somebody with a little bit more offensive versatility,
uh, and just more athleticism in general. And we talked about Terrence Man
and the viability and is in a trade. I mean Terrence Man plus Norm
Powell for John Collins works pretty much straight up, So you know, I
don't know. I'm assuming the Jazman assets not just to shed money, but
that that deal works straight up. Would you rather do that or get Grant
Williams for PJ. Tucker because well, I mean, what you're talking about
put me in the boat light it out fire PJ. Tucker for Grant.
But I don't think it's that crazy, only because pg is the expiring.
Grant Williams is making thirteen million over the next couple of years. Charlotte may
just want to get away from that. They got a new coach, which
might change things with that outlook. I mean, I would love that trade.
Sign me up up, sign me up for that. Grant Williams has
had a myriad of ankle injuries, which don't doesn't make me super excited.
But if you could get off PJ. Tucker for Grant Williams, I don't
think there's anyone in their right mind who would say no to that deal.
Right Grant Williams is letus. He ruins the locker room, which would be
a nightmare, but he's a thirty eight three point shooter. Well, it's
not like PJ. Could do that. That's very true, very good point.
Grant Williams also a nearly one to one assisted turnover guy that is one
of your big buggle booths, so that that's not ideal. I love the
way he guards up though. Honestly he's really physical. Yeah, he's a
bit of a prick, which you need on your teams if you're gonna be
defensive. Look at the teams in the Western Conference and tell me if the
offensive production if this team like adds Grant Williams, how how that correlates.
You're not stopping everything. I like. I like the idea of leaning into
a defensive minded thing. I just I don't I don't get Grant Williams for
PJ Tucker. For PJ Tucker for sure. Yeah, okay, Well would
you rather do that versus everything you'd have to give up for John Collins?
Yes, because I don't think that John Collins can do as much as what
Terrence Man can do within the system of the Clippers team. Yeah, he's
more of a traditional four, and all of a sudden, Kawhi can slide
back into the three spot, which would be good for this team. Do
you even know if Kawhi like wants to do that. Yeah, that's definitely
a cool. Well, I'll go off of just what he said last season
until they get a real one. Yeah. Fair, that's a good point.
But like, I don't know, and like and selfishly dude, like
Terrence Man being a second round pick and spending all his time with the Clippers,
I would love for him to get rewarded with a legit deal from the
Clippers. And because he does have a role now right, Yeah, shooting
guard. I'm not yeah, I'm not saying that I want him gone or
anything. It's just like that's a name that constantly circles the Clippers sphere.
If you look at norm as expendable, which I think just with the lack
of shooting in the in the loss of offensive production with Paul George, I
think that that changes that calculus a little bit. Unless one of these younger
guards really starts to pop like that, then obviously it's a little bit more
expendable. But you know, it does work, like you can figure the
money out, and I just don't know if the Jazz are willing to just
you know, if like just dumping, like shedding some salary because Collins is
only on for one more year after this, So it's like, how much
money are you really saving? Like you're not getting a pick to maybe save
like seven to ten million dollars? Is that enough? I don't really know.
And Terry, like we talked about whatever Terrence wants for an extension,
that's going to dictate if he gets traded too, because if he asks for
something that is like crazy, the Clippers are gonna probably like, well maybe
we maybe not, And they I like, yeah, I don't know,
what have you thought about in terms of going back to more small ball lineups
because they brought in Derek Jones, Junior and Nick Batum. Now enable may
not super small, not the four guard stuff I'm talking about getting back to
twenty twenty one Clippers basketball. I think we still need some more playable wings,
right, Like, I think it's a pretty thin. So like,
let's we're talking Jay like, so it's James Harden, Terrence Man, Derrek,
Just Junior Kawhi and Nick Batum is the five out lineup. I'm not
mad at that. I don't I don't hate that. Yeah, I think
I think in limited spirts, it's interesting. It's not something that's gonna be
able to it's not something that's super sustainable. No, it's not a death
lineup or anything like that. It's an annoying ass lineup to try and score
against, which could be great for befuddling streak runs or something like that.
It might give you three or four minutes at a fourth quarter that could swing
a game. Yeah, I could see that for sure. But yeah,
it's just not like it's not something you can really lean on. And I
don't think right now with the personnel that we have, we can really go
small for any sustained amount of time. It's just last year, you know.
They also we've just been talking about how much more zoois to be featured.
Let's not backpedal into small. Look, Zoo can still come back in
to be the hammer and close out the get ten minutes. We gives you
ten minutes, likely not play the entire fourth quarter. Maybe you should.
You know that. Do we know for certain that it doesn't work, because
I don't think that we do. Have we tried it. We haven't tried
it once, I don't think. But yeah, but by the way,
we did not have Norm in it. I don't think Norm is Yeah,
I don't know. Al Rangers was one of the best liners in the NBA
last season. That was true. But that lineup did that, Paul George,
So how do you a little less looked a little less good in the
playoffs? The playoffs kwhile it wasn't the power so it was real. It
was the Beatleborgs. Yeah, troopers. Did you guys? Just speaking of
Kawhi Leonard, They just posted a video of Kawhi arriving at us A men's
national team basketball camp. Got a sleeve on his knee, so maybe came
straight from the airport. He got a cool new tat. He wants to
do a slow unveiling. I like that what Tua did. That's off season,
dude, Tua likes throughout the off season. Would just like and he
just can't just fully tatted. Did we discuss the report from the La Times.
I think it was Brad Turner. Different report than the one you're probably
thinking of right now. Yeah, we're not talking about that. Another one
regarding Kawhi getting a forty five minute workout in in front of Laura Frank and
some of the other luminaries, and he impressed, correct, I believe that
was the word he was. He impressed. They went right basically. Yeah,
for TM USA, Steve Kerr was there sick. They wanted to see
where he was at physically. I mean, I feel good about I'm glad
they I'm glad the impressed and they weren't shocked. I'm not trying to be
an alarmist, but i am going to say five on five is always going
to be different. And when he gets in a few games, and even
though he'll probably be limited minutes, of course, Man, the USA is
stacked loaded. They only need him for so much, The only need everybody
for so much, how good the team is. But yeah, I still
will be closely monitoring how Kawhi Leonard looks on Team USA when you go three
months of swollen knee. But they said there's no structural damage. It's just
I'm still gonna be watching pretty closely see what's going on. Yeah, I
mean I'm looking at the sleeve. Yeah, the sleeve is a new development.
He's going with the tmax sleeve. What everybody was wearing, Yeah,
sleeves in the early two thousands. Will how are you feeling about the Kahi
report? Are you a static? Yeah, I mean I'm feeling really good.
I you know, it sounds like he nailed the audite. I hope
he gets the part. You know, hey, guys want to be a
part of this teams before we start. I'm really happy to be here.
Thanks for giving me a chance. Yeah, I mean I feel the same.
Like it's it's still like it's a completely different game doing We didn't get
any report of explosive box jumps, but I'm assuming there were a couple thrown
in. If he was impressing that hard it was the fourth of July or
near it, there should have been a couple explosive box jumps. Yeah,
And like I mean, does he do a floor routine, like in front
of all these guys, Like what is this? I don't really understand,
or do they just come and like him and Hall while he's like in the
gym doing regular gym stuff anyway are him? It's it's going to be completely
different when he's actually like on the court playing and competitive basketball at a high
level. But you know, like I said, it's it can only be
good to be honest with you, like, it can only be good for
him to get to data after some more prolonged time off how that knee is
going to respond and what the next course of action is because the answer can't
just be a question mark forever, right, I mean, I hope not.
And so in the worst case scenario where he does have to undergo surgery
or something, you know, early detection I guess would be better. Yes,
I agree with that. All right, before we move on to the
final segment, we are there was an end of an era that we're going
to talk about in the next segment for the Clippers that happened recently, No,
a different era. What do we Adam, what do you think Clippers
chances of a in the context of the Clippers right now big move yet to
come? What do you think chances one of the one chance one hundred percent
chances we're at the do you say big move? I think of guys like
Levine and DeRozan. Who else is out there? Who else has left at
this point or has been rumored to be involved in trade talks? I go
back to the Levine trade. I still out there because they're under the first
apron and are unshackled when it comes to all of the minutia with the new
CBA, I think it's it's very possible. Do they do it? I
don't know, have they seen the trade package we put together that worked on
paper. I'll say this because we know they're trying to get off PJ.
Tucker, because we know they're trying to get off of Russell Westbrook's contract.
We only know there's two guys on the team that are likely not going to
be on it by the start of training. Care very likely. I gotta
say, I would not be shocked if there was whatever you want to deem
a big move, but something else that is significant enough for us to pod
about for an hour. How about that Grant Williams or a John Collins that
feels significant enough for the pieces that would go out to pod for minutes.
Yeah, and therefore we're talking about Terrence may possibly be involved, nor Powell
possibly being involved. I think these things are real, these these options with
the Clippers when it comes to roster realignment and what they're trying to do.
Will Are you on the same trains at them? Do you think it's happening?
Yeah? I mean, like, look, they have to do something
just to get off of PJ. Tucker's salary, and ideally, I mean
that's probably gonna mean losing an asset. So you're hoping that you're pulling something
back in like I just don't know who else want contact and like and like
to wave and to wave and stretch him and to like hamper yourself financially for
like two seasons after this one. To me, as honestly, that might
be even worse than just pain in the fucking stupid twelve million dollars. Like
I was on the wave and stretch train and now I'm just like every choice
sucks, So you might as well get a peet. Like what a frustrating
contract to have on your books, and like maybe it's just seconds, Like
maybe you can get it done with seconds. If it was three seconds to
dump a contract right now? Is what the going rate is or whatever?
How seconds should they have? Would they have to give up somebody else just
to get some seconds back, like bones or something, I don't know,
I mean bones and PJ. That would suck. But if it's got like
I'm I don't know, that's right value, put bones PJ in two seconds,
that's more than enough. Oh yeah for anything that gets off to go
to a team like Charlotte that just was to shed salary, like we're just
like take all the just go to Charlotte expiring contract or not nothing, especially
as to day's NBA in Detroit. They're gonna have so much cap space after
they shed the PJ. Tucker salary after next year too. I don't know,
Sisty, that's true. I think there's something happened too. I think
we'll probably end up doing an impromptu pod to welcome Grant Williams or something like
that. I don't know if Lavine's in the cards. I think Tomorrow antilizing
too much. I think the way that the Bulls want to do the Tomorrow
trade, I don't think we can even get Lamar because they want like good
people back. I don't get he's an unrestricted free agent, like he doesn't
have to do a sign of trade. I know that opens up more possibilities,
I guess for getting rid of him, But sounds like sounds like tomorrow
Rose is one of the nicer guys in the NBA. Yeah, absolutely,
yeah, they I think we can get Tomorrow is if we can sign them
as a free agent. Yeah. He wants like twenty million dollars a year,
he said, so he might just play out this contract and then wait
to be a free agent and sign a deal too, he's a free agent.
Now there's no contract. He's Oh, that's what it is. Yeah,
Yeah, that's what's weird about new TBA has ruined everything. I feel
like the new CBA. Another thing about the CBA I didn't realize is that
like bonuses you have to be so you know how you sometimes players get like
wacky bonuses like Kyle Kusman will have like a finals MVP bonus or whatever that
technically counts towards your books at the end of the year for your cap.
So because of all this second apron stuff, that's like that's like making it
super weird to sign guys like you're not giving him these bonuses, and even
if they don't get that bonus, it's still counted towards your penalties in the
apron and whatnot. So it's like you have to like make room for money
that you might not even pay guys. I don't know. I don't know.
The second Aprons of Nightmare coming up, we're gonna be talking dips and
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three two one welcome back in I'm Out of maslin Is clips and dip from
a new surprise location. Uh not my usual background. We're all three in
the same place now. Now we all like our hands in the scene from
Rules of Attraction where they finally meet on camera standing next to each other.
That's a great movie. Uh yeah, I don't have a dip today,
guys. I don't have a dip either, Dude. I had a real
week. I was hosting the bar I'm out of town. How dare you,
chuck, I was out of town and had dip, not two weeks
ago. Will do you have a dip? I do, but it's not
appropriate, not appropriate? What do you mean not appropriate? Eight milligram zines?
Baby, Well, you're saving our ass this week because that's the only
dip we had, And yes, I would bring it to a barbecue.
In fact I did, In fact I did yesterday get to heaven. Well,
I'm sorry, I don't have a dip. I was. I was
just busy this week. I was thrown off. I'm sorry the listeners.
I know that we've that I've let you down. Adams also let you down,
probably even harder because he's multiple times as well. Actually will zood it
off his in so he's doing great. Our zin's illegal. Where did No,
I just don't, you know, I don't. I don't want to
endorse nicotine products on this show. I consume him a bunch, but I
don't endorse them, right of course, Yeah, banging, banging a darter
having his z in? Which would you choose? I mean, I guess,
I guess I'll take this in, But in my in my heart,
it's probably banging the stake. I don't. I don't smoke or at the
same time, and you're doing the patch with the zin, right, yeah,
patch eyes. That's why I'm wearing a hat because it's on my hairline.
That's the direct to your brain. When it's this hot out, I
can get to your brain way quicker will taking that. This is your brain
on drug to the full extent. It's a smooth, soft boiled eggs on
drugs. Well if you have such a smooth brain, Yeah, we should
talk about why the Clippers should have kept Paul George for four years. Well,
folks, we got one dip and it's zen and we would we would
take it to a barbecue. So go buy a bunch of inns, I
guess, or don't, don't buy a bunch of ins. All right,
we're talking the end of an era for the Clippers happened today, and I
think this person, this guy had a very interesting role for the Clippers.
Uh he's if you've followed the Clippers long enough, you have a soft spot
in your heart for this guy. Xavier Moon is now going to play with
the Orlando Magic this month in Vegas, Canadian Basketball League legend, they renamed
the Damn MVP Trophy after him. He was an emergency Clippers guy. He
got shoutouts on a former players podcast, Great locker Room Guy Reggie Jackson loved
him. He kept the vibes up during some really down times, but shout
out Savior Moon. I hope he can come back at some point for the
a C Clippers. I'm happy has a chance with the Magic, but bummed,
great piece of Clippers lore Xavior Moon. I think he's ineligible to be
on a two way because it would be the fourth straight year and he's already
done three straight years, and I think they're expecting you to graduate at that
point. I think so, I don't know, yeah, just too it's
just too small to be in the NBA. For sure. It's a bummer.
You put nineties and he's getting twenty minutes a night. Oh and he's
killing absolutely, but yeah, I was bummed to see that. I was
like, oh, save your moon rules, Like, I hope he has
a good time in Orlando. Yeah, a plane I really admired and like
has definitely had a great attitude and has been one of the step up guys.
Like you said, I mean he's he's a stay ready guy. Yeah,
I'll always I always think fondly of him. I enjoyed watching him on
the court. A ViBe's pillar for the Clippers team. Well, we're gonna
do like ten more minutes, but none of us have any dips, so
I think we can. Will brought up something interesting off air, right then,
Oh, do we have something else? No, I was gonna say
the sins, but oh yeah, I didn't know about that. Off air,
Will said, the national media is starting to catch up to why the
Clippers would let go of poll George. The national media is there's a bunch
of dipshits on Twitter who are like fake basketball media who aren't. But there
will always be dipshits on Twitter. That's very true. Yeah, windh Horse
recently, wasn't it wind Horse who was like, this is the third time
we've talked about that. Why are we pretending like this is gonna this is
a lock all of a sudden, And it's because the media hates the Clippers.
Well, he thought they were RUDDI list and didn't have a direction right
at the start of free agency, and he's like, I don't know,
I don't know what they're doing. Great analysis, man, you couldn't see
that they were trying to lead it into defense. He dumbass. I like
Windhorse, but I like Windhorse. I just everybody on that panel, Kendrick
Perkers, they were all so befuddled by what the Clippers were doing with bringing
in Derrick Jose Judu was like, guys, they're trying to be a much
better defensive team. I don't think anybody realized how bad they were on that
end last season. Yeah, and I think too. I mean, like,
look, you can say whatever you want about the Clippers. I mean,
obviously trade didn't work out the way. That's the way they got Paul
George, And it really was not for a lack of trying. They tried
every single configuration that he wanted, brought in every single frame, and tried
everything. And I know that people were pointing out like if the Clippers,
as far as they were willing to go, was near that Kui deal three
for one fifty, which would still make them a second Apron team, maybe
the Clippers were just never really two foot two feet into these negotiations in the
first place. You know, they gave him a big they gave him one
big contract, you know it. It resulted in three playoff playoff series wins
in five years. And I don't know, I think that that's pretty reasonable
to want to move on from from that. And as far as like the
you know, I've talked about this already on here before, as far as
like the let him walk for nothing, I just think the return that you
were looking at is not worth being over the second Apron like for a what
like for like a for like a measly like late first round pick, and
you could, you know, in a season or two, shed some of
the salary, Like I don't, I just don't. I don't think that
return was worth it. I don't fault the front off this for that deal,
I think, and I think the reaction to the Paul George thing shows
and you maybe have to stick with me on this one. It's a lot
easier to shit on the Clippers for not re signing Paul George for four years
than it is to learn what the CBA actually is, to learn what the
hamstrings a hamstrings actually are for this any team right now, we're seeing it
happen in different ways, but this is not the first time a team isn't
going to resign a guy to a max contract. It's much worse for the
Clippers when you talk about picks, first round picks seven years out being frozen
and if you're over the second aprin three times out of five years, those
picks moving to the back of the line twice For the Clippers, who don't
have a first round pick till twenty thirty, despite the balloons background going off,
yeah, well, it's nothing to celebrate. It is way more of
a penalty for a team like them than anybody else because this would already be
the second straight year they're over the second apron had they re signed Paul George.
They were last year, so they're already flirting with having picks frozen.
If they're one more year in with this, it's it's more detrimental to them
really than anyone because of all the first round picks that have been out like
to imagine them. Oh, we finally have our picks back, but they're
frozen and they're pick thirty. Uh great, great, yeah, and we
should have had like the sixth because Paul George is thirty eight. We're paying
them sixty million dollars. We fucking suck. And I don't think it's and
I know Will wasn't saying this, but I don't think you know, it's
Paul George's all his fault. They only won three playoff series. It's so
nuanced and complicated. Outside of just this, the Clippers could never stay healthy
enough. And he was just gonna say that, isn't that nuanced? They
just weren't healthy. Again, No, I don't blame Paul George for that,
but like, yeah, no, they just they weren't healthy. If
that happens, you know, for eight years in a row, heads are
gonna roll and maybe, you know, regardless of whether you think it was
the right heads or not, like this is where we are, This is
what the deal was. And I also wonder, I mean, I just
wonder what this would have looked like if Kawhi was asking for only for a
max You know what I mean, like I think, is there is there
a yeah, Like is there a yeah? I think I saw that.
Like obviously, me not being healthy, it's been hurting the team to this
sucks. I want to be healthy. I'm not taking an extra year and
I'm taking ten million dollars less on this deal. And it was after he
started as a hardened deal, right, the first one the trade Yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah. And he also he started a trade, so yeah,
he so like he also was you know, I just think that he
was Obviously he doesn't have maybe doesn't have the same leverage due to the health
situation. But yeah, he read the room and he knew that if they
was any way to keep this team together, it would involve a little bit
of sacrifice on the financial land. And he knows, like comments about the
power forward, right, he knows that this team needs some help. He
understands how his salary can affect winning at this point in his career, with
his injuries and whatnot. Like, yeah, I think they would have pieced
out if you would to ask for him. He and James Harden both took
a lot less. Both took enough less to make it feasible for the Clippers
to do a little bit more on the margins. Paul George wasn't willing to
do that. That's fine, that's his prerogative. He'll be in Philly because
of that. But it's the Clippers to not want to give is the Clippers,
you know, a position to not want to give him that fourth year.
I I I completely see these negotiations from both sides in this cereo.
It's Paul George's Asian job that if you're going for the money, get as
much as you nip the money. Cool. From the Clippers point of view,
not giving him all that money also makes sense, like there shouldn't be
that much bitter and acrimony around this, honestly. Yeah, And we'll see
how things go in Philadelphia for him, because, as has been mentioned many
times, they are as unforgiving of a fan base as any in the history
of forced different vibes over there when things are cold. Let's just say,
I think that about wraps things up here. I am melting in the space
that we are that I am recording this today. I hope everyone had a
great fourth and how to say fourth? Hope the weekend is chill. I
keep thinking it's Monday. I have no idea what day it is. For
those of us with office jobs, will where can these fantastic listeners find us
and listen before we're back next week with more fantastic lumbers content. Yeah,
the best place to find us is over on YouTube dot com slash at Clippers
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show, you know we appreciate you. We always do. And before we
fully get out of here to enjoy this rest of this long weekend, Adam,
give us one positive thing to go out on. Take sauls from the
fact that, hey, yes, Paul George is doing what's best for Paul
George, the Clipper is doing what's best for the Clippers. If those two
rows don't meet, that's how you don't have a deal struck. That's what
this came down to. It's not that complicated, and I think the Clippers
have pivoted to a really nice spot defensively so far, having lost Paul George,
and I think they had a plan right away for these guys. This
doesn't look like a scramble to find anybody. This looks like some intelligent design
going on with the Clippers and constructing this team and being a more defensive oriented
squad with Jeff Van Gundy now as an assistant coach. So I like what
I'm seeing. No, you can't make up for losing Paul George, like
I talked about with Doug Gottlieb, there's no way to do that. But
if all of a sudden your tenth defensively on the entire season, even though
you're gonna slip offensively, you're still very competitive, and that's what's gonna be.
It's gonna be competitive next year. Wonderful positivity going into this offseason.
Again, like I said, hope veryone has a great rest of your weekend,
and as always, let's go Clips.