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Eye on the Ball, which four
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your most ride r at I Heeart
Radio. But afternoon, everybody, welcome

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to Eye on the Ball, you
know, Fox fourteen to see I'm Steve

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vera Blom, said host jaganzas we
gotta Jason with us today. Feels like

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we've been away for a month.
I like it. You know, somebody

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actually thought our show was like over, are you guys like done? Did

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you guys? Did you guys end
your show? Like no? We you

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know, we had a couple of
things to do. We took some days

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off to kind of get cut off
on a few things. Yeah, so

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you know, we just had to
take a couple of days off. Sorry,

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called life. You know what,
I'm happy that somebody was asking exactly

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missed somebody like Sally Field the really
literally guys exactly? Yeah, Hey,

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yeah, I didn't check you,
sading frisk you. But did you bring

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it down to the work today?
Man? You know what, No,

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And as you get upset, I
just you know, I'm gonna ask you

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this to Jason, so be prepared. Wasn't one of those things, Steve,

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where I want guys who have these
incredible opportunities that they wouldn't otherwise have

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to not screw it up. Yeah, right on stupid stuff. And so

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no, I didn't bring his gun
to work today. So Jason, did

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you uh, you know when I'm
referring to we're talking about the jam jammer.

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So so when he told us,
you, everyone else, including the

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world, that he knew he made
a mistake in January, March whatever it

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was, Yeah, did you say, Okay, we'll see Yeah. I

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mean I figured because it happened too
quickly for him and just like flip the

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sword to be like I'm good,
you can move forward now. I'm like

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that was more of his what his
team told him to say, rather than

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it was he actually that was you
know, really meant. So I figured,

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as as soon as the off season
can just gonna continue his antics.

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And so not a surprise, no, not a surprise, no, yeah,

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not a surprise. But they're disappointing
because, like I said, you

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know, and we would say this
every time something like this comes up,

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but we would have given to have
an ounce of the talents that those guys

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have, to have an opportunity like
they've been given, and then to watch

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him piss it away the way they
do it just really bothers. I think

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eventually, well, I'm sure there's
gonna be a heavy fine and another big

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suspension. Yeah, I heard he's
probably going to miss a lot of the

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next season, if not the whole
season. Wouldn't you be really pissed off

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to pure his teammate because you already
cost me to see a pretty good season,

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right? How about being the commissioner
of the NBA. You know that

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guy, because you know that you
know, he gave him the benefit of

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the doubt. He really got suspended
for two games, not six, because

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you know, he set out,
had set up six games. He was

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already by the time they announced the
suspension. They says an eight game suspension,

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so he only had to miss two
more games and then he was back.

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They led him off so easy,
they gave him a chance, and

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yet you know, does it again, and then he did it a out

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kind of having to gilbal Arenas right, kind of like Arenus worked his way

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out of the out of the out
of the league. Still time to play,

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right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's just so disappointing. And

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and the thing is, you know, he got in that trouble and he

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went back and hung around with all
the same guys doing all the same things,

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and he has buddies, his buddies, so whatever where you filming him?

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Yeah? Well what the world these
hangers on filming him, filming him

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and then putting it up on social
media. Yeah, so the video,

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it's friend in the car with him
once job, you know, pulled it

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out. His friend like trying to
like move the camera up and those way

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too late, and they go and
they fought up there. Yeah, and

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somebody spotted. Yeah imagine if were
not around, right, yeah, oh

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yeah, but you know here and
here's the thing now to me is that

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you just are waiting for something really
bad to happen with him, whether it

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happens to him or he does something
right that he doesn't get it. So

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and he's not gonna get it.
I don't think he's gonna get it.

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Let's say let's say he's out of
the NBA because of this right because nobody

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wants to touch him. He gets
suspend or whatever, nobody's gonna take him.

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Let's say he gets out of the
NBA and he's got all this moneys

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do all whatever he's doing until until
it runs out. You just feel like

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this is a guy who doesn't have
control of himself, and he's gonna do

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something. Either he's gonna kill somebody
or he's gonna get killed, which is

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weird because his background isn't like that. Likes both thoth parents, a supported

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family around him. Like he's a
good kid, smart guy, Like I

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don't know why he's doing this,
Like he's got idiots around. Yeah,

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and he lets himself be directed by
these idiots. Yeah. Well, and

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he's got to be smarter than those
idiots, right, he's not. Yeah,

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unfortunate. There's also a phrase that
I use often. Uh it's the

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mom who says, well, he
hangs around. He just hangs around the

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backgroud, ma'am. He is thinking
the bad he's the back out in that

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exactly. All the money, right, guys with his buddies don't have the

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money. No, yeah, you
know you could if you didn't have any

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money thing to be doing this stuff. So it is what it is not

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to be a preachy. But I
just thought that was God with Steve.

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You know. I mean, hopefully
somebody, some kid out there, you

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know it's maybe headed towards this kind
of a career. You want them to

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see this and say, just say
don't do that. Just don't do that

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postal child with what not to do? Right, yeah, right. You

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can do a lot of things,
and you have a lot of freedom when

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you've got a lot of money like
that, but there's some freedoms that you

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don't have and this is one of
them, and you blow it and blow

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it right. Gilbert should talk to
him. Gilbert should and say, you

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know, this is what happened to
me. Oh, hey's okay. So

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we got about Tim and a good
show today a Monday for for a Monday.

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We got the Pima all right.
Pema's got a lot of stuff going

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on, including the baseball team getting
to the district championship. Now, um

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Wonda Region beat the Arizona Western two
out of three, So I think go

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to Nebraska. I guess. Is
that like a is there a tournament?

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I meant to look it up and
they is it a tournament or is it

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like a super Reachi? No?
I think it's a tournament. And then

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to try and get to be one
of the final eight in the national tournament,

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which I haven't been in and long
time. When it used to be

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they did it a few times,
you know during the Rich all Day years

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yeah, so good luck with that. Um. They had some a couple

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of golfers that finished pretty women's golfers
finishes as all Americans. So some some

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cool smartical stuff. We're up up, We're up season upright tonight today,

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director Pima. And then at four
fifteen Kent Summers, who's retired but he's

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still doing some stuff, and he
wrote a column for three sixty Sports Arizona

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and talking about Montie Williams getting fired. Yeah that was crazy. Yeah,

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I don't Yeah, it's crazy.
We'll talk more about ten. I was

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in Phoenix Thursday to watch the Diamondbacks
and right across the street, you know,

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trying to find parking. There was
probably more people at the Sun's game

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than nowhere at the diamond Bad right, and they could Uh we heard the

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seven eighth ten and it was two
zero. We gotta get coming out out

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of here for the beat. The
traffic and Suns guys were already ended up

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that way. He was over at
the end of the fish. But yeah,

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twenty two years in row, um
he was. He's been the savior

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of that so that organization for four
years. Sorry, we don't need you

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anymore to see like, yeah,
well you guys to where we want you

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know, you guys where we want
you to get us. Now go,

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We'll get somebody else to finish this. Yeah, right, I wanted you

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know. It's funny because um,
I've probably talked including your reading you know,

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can't can't call him today, and
just a couple other people I think

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are you know, semi knowledgeable about
about the NBA. All of them said

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they needed to do that. Yeah, really was coaches the year two out

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of its four years. Yeah,
got got him do a finals and turned

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turned to programmer. I'm a franchise
around in no time flat, and let's

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get him now out. Jay.
I don't know if you'll agree with me,

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Jason, but if you lose the
ear of the team, right,

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whoever these they'll shut down on you. Hey, we we've seen it here,

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are you right. We just don't
talk about it because because it happens,

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we saw it a few times in
here that the guys just you know,

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I don't need to play for you. Well and yeah, and it's

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the whole thing too of you know, a new owner, wasn't his guy?

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Well, hey, you know we
were talking about that. We talk

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about that in the time. So
if he's not your guy. He'll find

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your guy. Yeah, you know, guy said, dy, thanks for

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getting us here. We appreciate everything
you did. Don't let the door hitch

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in the ass right next up?
Whatever? Yeah, and he'll probably set

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next You'll get a job, you
know the guys job. I heard the

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bucks are am I looking to him? So he would definitely get a job.

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But yeah, but they're gonna switch
switch coaches with the Yeah, what

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are the issues that I have?
And you know this, I don't did

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you follow Eden when you were a
kid, because he was here a little

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kid. He is what he is, Jay, you know this. You

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know this. Everyone says he doesn't
play motivated. When did he? When

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did he? Guy's if that's who
you are, Yeah, that's where you

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are. I an argument with my
son about it. He said he was

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really good. I said, I
know he's really good, But didn't you

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feel like four times that he took
time off and he just kind of comcial

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to not He said, yeah,
he disagreed with me. Oh, you

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just said that he didn't see that. Oh he didn't want to see it.

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Yeah, maybe you know he didn't
want to see it because it's Aidan's

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one of the guys, you know, but no, he Hey, if

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you're seeing it, I'm seeing it. You're seeing it, honey. More

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people have seen it. Yeah,
you know, you just can't see all.

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A lot of people have seen it. Okay, we'll talk more about

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that town with kend because because they
can't get rid of Dayton to get a

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find of the coach. Well,
I think they're going to though. I

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think they well think I think I
think he's whether he is or isn't a

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problem, he is seen as one
of the problems. But we clearly got

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that image that he's a problem,
that he's not doing as much as he

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should be doing for a number one
overall. And guess we're a new venue.

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Won't change bull change of things sometimes
it can, though sometimes it can.

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But Mike bet Is, Nah,
you work where you are right,

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you are who you are. Okay, lots to talk about. I know

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you probably have a lot of breaking
news. There's a lot of stuff involved

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in us that we'll probably sit in
and out of baseball season, softball season,

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a lot of seasons. And I
know we'll talk to some softball But

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I I did go catch the UCLA
Arizona game. Do silly Arizona game.

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Oh oh yeah, that must have
been exciting. I gotta tell you,

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um, I've changed my mind about
damn about Arizona. There's a big talent

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gap right now. But yeah,
you know, you know that. I

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looked at UCLA's roster, and then
I looked at Arizonas roster. Arizonas all

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freshman, all freshman. I mean, there's like three juniors and above something

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like that, three may be four. LA was all juniors and seniors,

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you know, and so that's where
they UCLA had a Evan's year seniors,

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whether they're clean up hitters seven years. So you've been here since like the

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nineteen fifty you know, and and
you know, you just look at the

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age of these of these of these
players, the maturity of these it was

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it was it was wait wait,
I guess I guess the comment that it

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was women against girls, you know, and now we say, you know,

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men against those women against girls.
There were these all these grown up

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women playing these you know. I
mean, yes, you had Devin Nets

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and the you know, uh,
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know, I hired love but Arizona's
nothing much fresh year. You change,

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I think you try to think as
bad as everybody thought. You know,

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there are so people on the old
famous Internet say, of course doing this,

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doing that, of course, And
we'll talk about someone because I'm sure

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I'm way can get into the whole
breaking his aspect of that. But I

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did go see that game he was
gonna play. It was gonna play tough.

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They hung in there. Um,
you know the Pactael players that you

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heard a couple of homers against him, and that was a difference in the

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game. You know, it was
you know, it may have been that

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had they won that game, they
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again, you still same issues.
Just Devinness pitched really well, she pitched

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the whole games. She pitched really
well. She gave, she gave,

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She threw a four hitter, but
three of them ahammers and that's how they

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lost. And that's all. You
know, I just wanted to see,

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doesn't look as bad as it sounds, and it did not that mean that

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one and for that one game,
for that one game, yeah, okay,

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well they didn't get in and we'll
talk more about that later. Anything

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else going on. We have about
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some calls at the back end of
this hour or like three forty three forty

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five. Have our people calls calls. We're gonna have Monaco here in about

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five ten minutes. UM, so
that'll be good too. Break this is

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coming up. Yeah, Badford's back. He's there's only eight horses like he's

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back. He's back. Um.
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the winner. The winner of the
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from the you know that this is
something we hadn't talked about. Um.

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U have a guy who we try
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Um who trainer Forte Plech Tod Pletcher
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reason. Whoa when just recently ten
days for drugging. Fourteen was caught with

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drugs on September. I didn't know
that. The come on, man,

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you're not learning that the U A
are you? So that was an issue

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or it's an issue you won't fourteen
won't be running in this one. So

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it should be interesting, should be
a good day of racing. Okay,

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you follow horse race more than I
do. How does a horse who was

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a long shot in the Kentucky Derby
comes around and wins it? Okay,

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all of a sudden, they were
the they were the total favorite in the

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next race. You know, let's
say, I mean, if they hadn't

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they hadn't won the Derby, would
they You know, they sucked before the

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Derby. Now they win a race
which a lot of horses just come up

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and all of a sudden win and
have a great day. Now it's like,

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you know, the prohibitive face were
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that I totally understand because people seen
him for the first time. People seen

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him for the first time, even
though they've run a few times before,

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and now they know who they are. But like this this guy, I

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don't think he's gonna win because this
style won't fit for this track because you

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need to be fast like that eighty
one long shot last year. And also

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he was like one of the favorites
for the Derby. He was an eighty

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one long shot. Really wasn't any
good, right, he got, he

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got, but he broke through one
race and all of a sudden, he's

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one of the best horses in the
world. You're your long weeks later.

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Your logic doesn't work for horse race. It doesn't work for is how you

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how you run that day. Some
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You know, It's just the way
it is. That's why this tons

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a tough game. Man's a tough
game. Richard Egan something like, he's

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not right. You know, he
had a tough y, had a tough

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derby day. No way, you
know, you know because you find him.

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I've won with him before. Yeah, that's my point. There were

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days and there were not good Yeah
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just how that happens. All right, let's take our break. We're going

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to come back. Jim Monicope Athletic
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here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty Steve, he's Jake. You gotta calls this

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Jim Monico. It is Jim.
How are you good? Afternoon you and

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well thank you make me you're on
the air, so we're happy to have

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you on the air. What a
fantastic year is the season over or no

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base fantastic season you guys have had
and continues. It's amazing. Um,

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it's been a crazy day to be
honest with you, trying to get everybody

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all over the place. We've got
teams everywhere, so it's just been outstanding.

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Well, we know we saw her
baseball dead over the weekend, so

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they've moved on in the tournament.
So you said you've got teams elsewhere,

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tell us who's gone where right now? So we just brought back the women.

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Maria our golfer, finished and then
did great. She's a two time

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All American and getting ready to make
a decision on which Division one school she's

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going to. Our men's team is
now in Wichita. They actually passed in

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the airport, so they're out there
now competing for the national championship in golf.

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Our men's team, let's see where
also are we track leaves tomorrow to

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go to Hobbs, New Mexico,
to complete in the national Championships out there,

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they'll be going for the next week, and then baseball leaves tomorrow morning

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to head to Nebraska. So this
is a naive dumb question, Jim,

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who pays for the travel if they've
made the postseason? That is a terribly

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naive dumb question. I know that's
a college page for our our travel for

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championships. The college does, okay, so it still comes out of Pima.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
The NJCAA is nothing like the NCAA

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when it comes to that. That's
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it's not a cheap No, it's
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So god, oh you know what, I don't want to bring you down

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thinking about that, so sorry.
So let's first talk about baseball. I

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mean, you know, because that's
a sport that has been you know,

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historically great, you know, some
past appearances in the national tournament whatnot.

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But um, you know, they've
they've had a really good year. We

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talked to Ken hackemy during the year. Just tell us a little bit about

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what you saw those guys do this
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done nothing else than they've done every
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right. I always said how tough
the WSFL was when we had four ball.

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They compared it to the SEC,
and Greg Hanson did an amazing article

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and compared us to the Pac twelve
and the conference are champions, and here

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he is, you know, he
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doesn't make the playoffs, right,
and this year he feels a team that

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just believes they can do it and
went out there and with a little bit

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of the way that the ball bounced
and everything else, this year it was

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our turn and those kids are just
they're outstanding young men and they work really

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hard and ken hold into a really
high standard. I mean, it's enjoyable

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to watch those guys play. I'm
curious because you're the AD obviously that's why

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you have you on. But you
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How is life for you with all
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you know, we were at the
ADS conference in Yuma while we're trying to

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well, I'm trying to get ready
to host a championship. So you're constantly

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doing something and you know a lot
of guys are like, well, are

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you're going to Nebraska to watch him
play? Well? No, because I

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have good men in Wichita can this
and uh and and I have another track

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team with with forty people going to
nationals in Hog, New Mexico. I

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said so realistically. And my assistant
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So I'm like, I've got to
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don't go right, and I've got
a bunch of coaches and kids that

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I have to make sure are safe
and good. So I stay home and

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kind of handle the control room.
You know, they talked about the golf

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team, you know, the golf
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And you know, we've always been
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you know, we had we had
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as as the coach, and at
that time he seemed like such a little

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kid still right, but you know, we had him on, you know,

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a couple of weeks ago and he's
like, you can tell that he's

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matured into like a junior college golf
coach. Do you see what coaches look

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like after a few years, it's
like the president. So in another year,

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Marcus will be ball. So you
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it is what it is. And
I think the nature of the beast

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to be in a junior college coach
and at his age and experience was so

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far behind the curve, right,
And he just jumped in with both feet

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in a couple of arms and said
I'm gonna do this. And he's done

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it, and he's done an amazing
job, and he has matured and he's

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he's a great guy and a really
great coach. And the guys in the

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Great Ladies play hard. From yeah, yeah, no questions, let's sell.

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We got about five minutes, so
we're talking to Jim Monico. The

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idea PIM overall for the year.
Women's soccer again very good. The men's

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soccer, of course, very good. He's my understanding. You're trying to

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get the national tournament back or did
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enough to go ahead and do it. It will have it back, And

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this year it's actually a day longer
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That was the national office. So
yeah, that's the second week in

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November. All that all the college
will be back in Tucson, come for

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a national championship. Yeah. Pressure, huh, but but you must love

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you've loved it. Obviously you wanted
it back because there's a reason for that.

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But it's kind of be like the
two Sons or PIMA is the headquarters

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for great soccer team? Is it
doesn't? You know, you're right,

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but PEAM is the headquarters for great
athletics? Makes sense? Yeah, well,

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I mean it is. It is
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things really in such a different light
now in the last five six years,

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because not only do we do great
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the classroom. In this past semester
three one, four, so we beat

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last year's three zero six. It's
like hitting sixty two bombs in the next

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year hitting sixty four. Wow,
look at you guys. So it's dated.

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Great. Back back to the soccer
Terama. What did you like about

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hosting it last year? I mean, I know, as Steve said,

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it had to be a lot of
work, but there's there's a reason you

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wanted to bring it back. What
did you like about doing it? What

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did I like about doing it?
Truthfully? Is it puts It puts Pima

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and Tucson on the national collegiate mallot. You know, we have the un

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the University of Arizona, and they're
amazing at everything, but people don't have

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a tendency to look at what we
have here, and I think the JC

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Tournament brings that to light. With
the hotels and the weather and the facility.

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Right it's not on the U of
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It shows people not only what we
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when it's time to pick a place
to live. Rightly, no question,

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m who did you have to impress? I'm sure they probably said, no

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doubt, let's just go back because
the weather is fantastic, I'm sure all

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the opponents or the other people enjoyed
it too, because I think it's that

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time. The weather was fantastic.
So I'm going to say something and it's

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usually not me because I don't I
don't blow my own horn whatsoever. And

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it's still not me. But they
said it was the best tournament they've ever

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been to with the hospitality tend and
what the city and our local food just

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did for us to help us.
The facility they thought was amazing. Once

407
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again, the weather was incredible,
and we had the highest attendance in the

408
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.000
last fifteen twenty years that anybody can
remember. So so do you go to

409
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.640
your do you go to your soccer
coaches and say, okay, we're doing

410
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.759
this again, so get your stuff
in gear and you better be there,

411
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.279
or how do you how do you
handle that? It's exactly right, I

412
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.559
said, one way or another,
you're gonna be there, so you need

413
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.799
to play in it. You can
work at one. Very true, but

414
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.880
you know what, given the coaches
you have and the players you have,

415
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:36.960
they'll be back. Oh are you
kidding? Causing and Kendra two of the

416
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.000
best coaches in the country, and
no matter what they have, they'll put

417
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.400
the best product on the field and
it's never been a disappoint So, Jim,

418
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.200
we talked to your coaches from the
different sports all the time and they

419
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.279
just talk about the atmosphere that you've
created over there. Well, you know,

420
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.839
thinking back, because you know from
the time that you got there to

421
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.960
now, what do you think has
been the key to what you guys have

422
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.799
been doing from a pro gram standpoint? And I know you're going to say

423
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.119
all these things about all these people
that you that are there, but there's

424
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.640
something that you've had to have done
and that you say your sights on in

425
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.799
terms of this is what I want
to do to create something great here?

426
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:18.920
What did you what are some of
those things? The only thing I really

427
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.440
wanted to accomplish was for us to
become cohesive, a family like and we've

428
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.519
done that and I mean that in
the aspect of caring for each other.

429
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.599
You know, at one time it
was a soccer program, it was a

430
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.799
baseball program. Now there's an athletic
program, and we're just pieces of the

431
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:41.279
one body and everybody. It's not
a buying things. They just they gravitated

432
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.000
towards that. The kids are amazing. They each support each other's sports,

433
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.880
and they're at every other event,
and the coaches actually care and help each

434
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.400
other, and I don't I don't
think you can have a lose, you

435
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.039
know. I mean I tell them
I love them all the time because I'm

436
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.680
nothing without them, and they're incredible, and I just want them to know

437
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:04.160
that and to pass that same,
you know, that same mentality and mentorship

438
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.400
down to their kids. I want
them to believe in something bigger than themselves.

439
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.039
Right, we didn't even talk about
the men's and women's are basketball progress

440
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.440
because right they're very good ranked most
year, so it's not all Yeah,

441
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.440
Trodd went to the national tournament again
and Brian lost in the championship game.

442
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:25.119
I mean, god, you know
it's it's just listen. If it's not

443
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.759
for you guys and for all the
other the sports people in Tucson, nobody

444
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.160
knows about p mccaullege athletics and it
is a diamond. Yeah, no,

445
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.559
yes, no doubt it. It's
just you guys. Well, you guys

446
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.319
always give us something to talk about, so we appreciate that much first for

447
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.279
sure. So, um, you're
kind of funny. Yeah, yeah,

448
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:48.400
you know, wasn't like so so
you're watching all these things from a distance.

449
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.759
Um, what do you have your
eye on right now? Honestly,

450
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.359
I have to look the next year. Already this year is done. Um,

451
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.759
we're giving everybody the the the same
they need to succeed for this year.

452
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.400
That travel that we want to make
sure they're traveling the best they can

453
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:08.160
because they've earned that. I truly
believe the coaches and kids have earned a

454
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.920
quality trip. So we've worked hard
on that. Now we have to look

455
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.839
at next year and see. You
know, in my honest opinion, I

456
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.440
want to see athletics grow. We
are we are the best thing going.

457
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:25.400
And why wouldn't you sink your money
into your best crop? Yeah? No,

458
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:30.359
great, fantastic Jim as usual,
appreciate you. Oh you guys are

459
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.440
amazing. Thanks so much. Guys, thanks about Jim Monica from PEMA.

460
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.400
No good stuff that Then He's right, I mean, it's a fantastic you

461
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:44.359
never thought this twenty years ago.
I mean the amazing thing is because you

462
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:49.920
know, Tucson has had Tuson has
been good at certain sports, right baseball,

463
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.839
softball, you know, softball?
You know, then soccer became a

464
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.880
thing. You know, basketball probably
took a little longer, right, you

465
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.400
know, but but now peam of
basketball has been good for a while.

466
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.880
Um, you know, so when
you when you's in now golf, I

467
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.519
mean, you know, so when
you see that all these sports because look,

468
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.039
I look, I knew some guys, you know, we knew guys

469
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.079
who are you know in sports period? It wasn't always this way, right,

470
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.160
and I think you knew that,
you know, And so you know

471
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.599
when you see how many sports are
doing so well, that's how you really

472
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.920
and by accident, right, it
is not by accident. Yeah, okay,

473
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.440
let's take a break, come back, take your calls. I hope

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521
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guy Jackson with us today. We
have about seventeen minutes. We us like

522
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to call Howard. I hope you're
okay, not under some tree or some

523
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part everybody else down, but you
know, it is what it is.

524
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We'll talk to him a lot.
Whatever you guys want to talk about,

525
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just give us a quick call.
Uh see if you missed us for a

526
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.800
couple of days. Yeah, you
know, somebody did miss us, right,

527
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.559
I got some notes wondering where where
the heck we were. We just

528
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.400
had stuff to do and you know
we again, as people know, we

529
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:29.360
do other stuff. So sometimes you
just gotta try to catch up. And

530
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.400
then you know that that allowed us
to do that. Yeah right, okay,

531
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.639
cool, what else we're gonna talk
about? I don't want to get

532
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.280
into your your area of your life, Jason with the breaking news, So

533
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.199
yeah, that's kind of hard.
There was. So Baffort's coming back up

534
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.360
for Time to Go. He's probably
gonna be more of the story than than

535
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:51.119
the extual race because he's been there
already. Some stuff out of social media

536
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.960
and stuff, and yeah, you
know, the athletics got a story on

537
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.440
him that I haven't read, but
it's a good story that just came out.

538
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.400
Dania O'Neill, who who we know
is the the sympathizer and in the

539
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.320
kind of sympathizer, she's the one
that go gets you actually yeah, yeah,

540
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.519
she's the one that did the story. She's sort of a watchdog for

541
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.400
athletic right. Um, So there's
that, and what else is going on?

542
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.400
What does she saying? She it's
a good story, how he thought

543
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.760
he was railroaded. Yeah, and
she's still you know, he says that,

544
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.320
right, he still says that he's
it's in behind him. But he's

545
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:25.039
still trying to get his name clear
to all that he did mention Pulcher or

546
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:30.360
they didn't mention Pletcher in the story. He's backing Pletcher because people don't understand

547
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.480
the business. Uh, you know, you failed rooke this. Yeah,

548
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.320
but it was like there were circumstances
for involved involved, and that's just it

549
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.719
is what it is. I can't
explain it. For another horse died at

550
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.400
Churchill. There was like seven or
eight now because last week threw the the

551
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.480
whole bunch another one like today?
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's and

552
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.320
that happened. Remember that sent me
then and mar Forever had a whole bunch

553
00:36:53.320 --> 00:37:00.039
of an and they had him here
too at the Rito. Also in the

554
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.840
NBA starts here tomorrow, at least
from my mind, the Lakers, the

555
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.840
Lakers the Western Conference finals, yea, and then the Eastern You're hanging up

556
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.519
red dude, now your team.
I like, I liked my chest,

557
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.719
like k I really loved my chests
with Denver. If they can stop a

558
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.360
D, I think they get to. Yeah, dat series is going to

559
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.320
determine on a D and Yoki's matchup. Whoever one's that maxical one the series?

560
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.840
Yeah yeah, um, so I
still I'm still I bet even more

561
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.400
on in Denver. So um you
put them on on it? Oh yeah,

562
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.880
I like Denver, I like Denver
lot Yeah yeah. Um what you

563
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.880
think about about the way the did
you did you see Steve Kers said about

564
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.800
the team? Yeah? I thought
it was perfectly on the said we weren't

565
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.119
a champion, perfectly honest with what
I agree perfectly. They were a horrible,

566
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:51.199
horrible away road. They're a really
really bad row team. And you

567
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.280
know Jordan Pool didn't play up to
the standard. I didn't you know,

568
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.239
Yeah, we knew that, right. Did you see the reasons why they

569
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.159
hit him and punched him and just
respecting Steve and they wanted him He is

570
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.960
kind of I didn't realize this,
but you can see how he plays ye

571
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.039
consistent, a little punkish. Yeah, m did you see that attitude?

572
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.320
Like yeah, I saw Mike order
clips whatnot of the way like in the

573
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.360
huddle, like Staph and Draymond is
trying to talk to him and he walks

574
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:22.239
away, you know, like yeah, so yeah, that's a big factor

575
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:28.440
why they didn't play that well together
season. So yeah, he was very

576
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.400
very honest about it. Yeah you
know what. I think that's what everybody

577
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.519
likes about him. Yeah, Okay, you know what, and we sucked

578
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.079
and we got the most out of
our team. It's gonna be how hy

579
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.320
you're on here and hind the ball? Hey, Jay, Steve Grad,

580
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.800
you guys are back. This is
done? Hey done, what's up?

581
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:52.159
Done? I just wanted to comment
on on Tema Athletics. Yes, sir,

582
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:57.800
you know, growing up here,
you know they'd have I mean years

583
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.960
and years ago they had a great
football team for a few years and then

584
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.760
every you know, everyone's from while
the baseball team would be good, you

585
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.400
know. But but the renaissance they're
having right now, it's like amazing.

586
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:15.119
They're you know, they're they're all
They're like a Stanford where they're good at

587
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.119
everything. Yeah, they've had a
bunch of great coaches. It seems like,

588
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:21.679
you know, we've had so many
of them on the show. We

589
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.280
talked to Cosgrove as as uh you
know, as Monica, you know,

590
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.760
say we you know, we talked
to Todd hold House, we talked to

591
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.960
you know, uh, Peabody.
I mean, just all these coaches come

592
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.039
on and they all just seem like
great people. And you know, when

593
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:42.440
you have that, you know,
it's it's it's it's it's uh contagious.

594
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.119
It can be contagious, contagious.
And then the nice thing is they want

595
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:52.480
to be here in Tucson, right
right. And it's funny to me because

596
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.440
when you talk when when I think
about little leaguers and Pop Warner football,

597
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.639
the coaching makes all the difference because
kid kids that are ten years old,

598
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.880
they're all the same, most of
them. You know, there's a one

599
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:10.800
percenters, but but it's it's nice
to see that you have these this bunch

600
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:17.079
of elite coaches at our community college
that are doing these things that are making

601
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.400
it so hard on Monacle because you
know, if everybody earns to travel,

602
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.800
well, holy moly, Yeah,
that's got to be a heck of a

603
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.880
budget he's got to come up with. Yeah, that's why he asked.

604
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.880
I didn't really know that. I
thought that maybe some kind of sanction would

605
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:36.000
pay for it. Yeah. Yeah, there's no money comes in from you

606
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.320
know, because like in the NCAA, right, they get their expensive government

607
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:43.119
stuff. So yeah, no,
yeah, And it's just a shame that

608
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:47.119
they didn't have football, you know, back from back in the day where

609
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.440
you know it could have been like
I think football could have been really good

610
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.880
too, because it's junior college football, and you had a lot of good,

611
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.320
pretty decent kids that were here.
They didn't get to play be on

612
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.679
high school. And and I also
wanted to shut out the crew at All

613
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:13.599
Sports Tucson dot Com. Go ahead, those guys. They do an amazing

614
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.960
job. We got the Little League
All Stars tournaments coming up. If anybody's

615
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.760
out there and you want to,
you want to, you want to find

616
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.920
out what your old little league was
doing or whatever. They've got the scores

617
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.360
from all the brackets, all the
I mean, I think they end up

618
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.800
with like a dozen people out there
watching Little League and reporting on it.

619
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:38.639
And the Balls brothers don't sleep their
vampire. They do the vampire. They

620
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:44.159
mustn't. They must not, because
the kids that leave Tucson and go play

621
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:49.280
n IA ball some across the country
or whatever, those guys still acknowledge them

622
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.639
when they're getting their player of the
week in their conference. Two thousand miles

623
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:59.360
away and it's a rolling thing,
and it's they just do an amazing job.

624
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.800
Those more, all those guys and
and Monico and Pima College. It's

625
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:08.440
just really neat to see that that
these guys are everybody's getting their due if

626
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.599
if you know where to look for
them. Yeah, no, great,

627
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.719
great, thanks to appreciate appreciate it. Thank you, Thanks Ton, Thanks,

628
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.599
thanks thanks for listen. Thanks I
always thanks for listening. We were

629
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.519
talking about before he came on,
what we're saying the young kid, you

630
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:27.039
remember stuff. Um, we're talking
about what we're talking about, closed state

631
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.639
yea yea yeah. So so he's
taking hits though, because because it's the

632
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:37.880
coach's responsibility that his team didn't get
any better. Well, there's certain things

633
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.320
you can't control, right, you
can try to control chemistry and all that,

634
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.199
but if the team doesn't get along, you just don't get along.

635
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.639
And well, again, what he
was saying was, we got as much

636
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.079
out of our team as totally great
as we were going to get. Totally

637
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.360
agree. And whether you believe that
or not, you know, people,

638
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.559
well you have you have Steph Trace. You should win the NBA championship every

639
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.079
year, right, that's not how
it works, no, you know.

640
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.800
And then what Joel Embiid said right
where he talked about you can't just be

641
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.960
two of us we got and people
are calling him out for saying, wait

642
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.239
a minute, you know, yeah, that was that was part of the

643
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.880
quote. Thought some like media outlets
that they cut it. So yeah,

644
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.519
Aly got the force before he said
that, he said, I asked me

645
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.360
better. James has to be better. We all have to be better.

646
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.159
Then he said that, Well,
it's good that you're paying attention because you

647
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.960
know how the media. Yeah,
yeah, you gotta get that's how it

648
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.920
got played, you know, and
it's like you know, he I mean,

649
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.880
there's a sometimes there is as much
as you're gonna get, you know,

650
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.320
if you if you go back to
that uh that scene and it was

651
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.119
a movie, but that scene in
Blue Chips at the end of the at

652
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.639
the end of the movie for Nick
Nolton, who was the head coach,

653
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.920
said his best coaching job was a
year before when they went you know,

654
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.360
sixteen and fourteen, you know,
when he had won national championships. He

655
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.559
said, the best coaching job ever
did was last year because we got everything

656
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.760
out of that team that we were
going to get and sometimes you know,

657
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:00.920
sometimes you know that you've maxed out, you know, you know, like

658
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.079
it was a football team last year, they maxed out. I'm fine,

659
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.679
there's no other way you could have
predicted they were gonna get five wins,

660
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.159
right and five and seven? You
know it's not good enough for anybody,

661
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.880
but you had to you feel like
five wins was as much as they were

662
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:17.599
going to get. Well, that's
what Doc Rippers was saying that with Philadelphia,

663
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:22.119
who would have thought they would have
gotten this far under their cigar Stantus.

664
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:23.480
I know, I don't know how
good they were. I don't know

665
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:28.760
where they were predicted to finish,
but they took Boston to Game seven before

666
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:30.119
here, so I don't know.
His job is probably on the n Yeah,

667
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.920
I mean, I just I just
with um their situation, but I

668
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:38.079
think they could have went farther given
the situation they were and in Boston they

669
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:42.559
weren't playing that while honestly the whole
series, the whole Boston Boston, yet

670
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.559
they weren't playing a will to the
whole series. By Game one they led

671
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.679
Sixers win it even though James Joel
wasn't playing. And then even in the

672
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.440
past series like they took the Hawks
and six games where they probably should have

673
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.639
swept the Hawks. So the Sixers
had a chance to win the series,

674
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.440
but they just kind of gave it
away in Game six and then you know,

675
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.719
Jason Tatum just saw the game away
games, haven't based Boston? Yeah,

676
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:06.840
yeah, Well you gotta know your
limitation? Ye? Well, yeah,

677
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:08.719
you know, and and again sometimes
you know, I mean sometimes you

678
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.480
do max out and then other times
you do what you know, what you

679
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.440
know the Bucks did? What Arizona
basketball did? You know? You know

680
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.880
things like that. I mean,
you know a lot of teams don't max

681
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.880
out. You know, they leave
a lot behind and you go, what

682
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.960
they all happened there? And I
think that's why Montie Williams got fired.

683
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.039
Yeah, because they're just people feel
like you had Kevin Durant, you should

684
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:36.039
have done better. Right. Well, now we'll ask m Kent about We

685
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:37.599
talked about this. If they didn't
get to the finals or to the win

686
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.360
it all? Was it worth it? Was it worth it? Because they

687
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.519
didn't have him for forever? Right
they brought him in in March or whatever

688
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.719
it was. Yeah, he got
hurt. Was all giving up the landscape

689
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.360
for him? Yeah, I guess
it was worth it because Kevin's on a

690
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:52.920
four year contract. So even if
they didn't win it all this year,

691
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.320
which they didn't, they so out
for more years. Let me asked you,

692
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.400
because you follow it more than we
do. Yeah, they win.

693
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:01.480
Will they get to the finals in
the next three years? Yeah? They

694
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:06.159
definitely should. They have a core
already set up in plays with Book and

695
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:08.159
Kevin Durant. They need to add
pieces around them too, and they could

696
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.719
definitely get there. I fel like
this year they took the Nuggets was six

697
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.599
games and then without any like depth
really in my opinion, So I was

698
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:17.880
like, next year, Adam or
death, you don't get a new coach

699
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.039
in there that they really like and
then take the next step to the if

700
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.800
no conference finals of the finals?
Can you save this clip of sentences?

701
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.440
How would see what he's doing?
Emergency room? How you face down?

702
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.840
I don't know. I don't know
if I can get there this That franchise

703
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.519
is kind of cursed. Yeah,
okay it, well you know again,

704
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.119
where are the where are the pieces? Right? How do you get your

705
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.000
hands on them? No? No, just you got this max contract with

706
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.719
DeAndre Hayton. You know, if
you feel you need to get rid of

707
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.679
them. Who's gonna take him?
Right? And how much is that going

708
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.119
to cost you? And now did
you need what did me a good roster

709
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:57.119
size? Playing roster size? They
played with five six guys, right,

710
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.280
yeah, but everyone else plays eight. Now there's some teams that whittled down

711
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.920
right, like like six seven guys, right, So they need they need

712
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.559
I think they need a good like
starting like ten, like ten, like

713
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.840
you know five, and I was
like five, that's a good start.

714
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:14.880
Yeah, there's ten's a low.
Let's see. I don't Milwaukee. How's

715
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:21.360
a good starting tas? I think
Milwaukee does? Um? I mean,

716
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:23.119
Deniver probably does. Dene's a really
good bench. Yeah, have never a

717
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.840
really good bench as well. But
I think well Bosston, oh yes,

718
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.440
Boston has an incredible like depth.
They're have really good death as well.

719
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:34.719
So there are a couple of teams
that have like a good like guys that's

720
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.599
where they are. Yeah, that's
true. So it is hard though,

721
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.400
especially with the cap situation in Phoenix. I don't know all the just b

722
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:44.719
I know, like you know Deandre's
contract, Kevin's you know books, So

723
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:46.199
here's a lot of money, you
know, three guys all and then Chris

724
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.199
Paul as well, I figure out
what to deal with him. Well,

725
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:54.639
it's funny. The big headline was
that book and uh and uh and Kevin

726
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:59.039
h stigned off on this. Of
course, you wouldn't you ask them,

727
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.159
what's you Since you wouldn't you have
to ask him, right being the two

728
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.239
stars and saying can we win without
him? Ye? Then for they to

729
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.239
say, I think he needs to
stay or whatever. But there's no question

730
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:13.519
that if Aiden's still there, he's
gone. If Aiden's gone, maybe he

731
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.000
stays. Does that make sense?
Yeah? Yeah, it makes sense because

732
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.400
they couldn't go inside. No,
you know, play, I guess I

733
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.079
didn't see Monty. You know,
he just you know, getting let go.

734
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.760
I definitely predict DeAndre and we'll get
rated his off season Biday, Nay

735
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.920
Monty get'll let go by guess makes
sense? And they want to you know,

736
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.360
keep want to go to the other. So well we'll see if they

737
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.679
you know, get rid of both. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

738
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.880
okay, we got about four minutes
left him. We want to give us

739
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:39.239
a quick call, please do five
two, four, one, six,

740
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.840
seventy four forty. We have Ken
Summer's talking here with us, and Ken

741
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.400
Summers will talk about the firing of
Bonnie Williams and stuff. You know,

742
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:51.440
a lot continue to hear stuff about
and we'll try and get John Wilner on

743
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.840
sometime this week. Continue here a
lot of stuff about the PAC twelve.

744
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:58.239
What's going on with the PAC twelve
and stuff. Did you see Michael he

745
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:04.039
story on on the Lord on the
lawyers, Yes, clif or something,

746
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.760
go ahead, we gotta yeah,
we got to talk about that. I

747
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:12.079
think it was last week's I forgot, but so so now the the lawyer's

748
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:17.800
lawyers are saying that that de Lord
did not interact be guilty to the sexual

749
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:24.000
assault. That uh that the girl's
lawyer, the victims lawyers said um,

750
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.239
and they're pissed. And I think
they're they're considering or have uh filed Uh

751
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.480
I don't, I don't really or
considering the claim. But they're definitely denying

752
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:40.119
what they're denying. They're denying what
what the other lawyers said and what's been

753
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.599
out in the media. Right,
so basically, somebody he's not telling the

754
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.280
truth. But right, I don't
know if I want to use the L

755
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.480
word, but somebody's not telling the
truth because somebody, because you have one

756
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.440
side saying that these two guys pleaded
guilty to sexual assault. You have the

757
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:04.400
lawyer de Laura's lawyers saying he did
not. You have the other players lawyer

758
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:10.039
saying basically arguing the point, So, what the hell happened? Yeah?

759
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:15.840
And it brings up doubt. It
brings up doubt, and and and again.

760
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.719
If you're in a situation where nobody
is supposed to be able to release

761
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:23.079
be releasing information as to what happened
at the jubal court level, could they

762
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.880
and I don't know that your friends
or your buddies who listen, I think

763
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.239
you can say, but nobody's going
to get the record. And I was

764
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.639
gonna say, could those records be
released if no parties agree, good parties

765
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.280
agree? I don't know. Does
that make sense? Yeah, I hear

766
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:44.480
what you're saying. Can they be
unsealed if everybody agrees that they that they're

767
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.079
unseal? The story correct? But
yeah, so you'd have to get the

768
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:54.960
victim or the alleged victim now,
and the two alleged uh calling perpetrators or

769
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.000
whatever to all agree. And I
don't know that anybody would ever do that.

770
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.159
I don't know that any lawyer would
allow that to happen unless it's gonna

771
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:07.280
make their client correct, and so
not all sides can look good coming on

772
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.559
truth. Right. That's why it's
either the two guys are okay or the

773
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.119
victim is okay, and whoever's not
okay it is going to say I'm not

774
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.039
you know, I'm not agreeing to
that, but I don't know if you

775
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.639
can't. I don't know what the
law is on that. May maybe one

776
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.519
of our guys is listening. Can
juvenile court records be unsealed? Because the

777
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:30.039
only way to prove it if they
agree, Say, I did see that

778
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:37.880
there's some language about juvenile court um
that you don't plead guilty in the In

779
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:45.039
the juvenile court, you're adjudicated as
having committed this thing, whether that's you

780
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.199
know, it's another word for pleading
guilty or not guilty. Right. So

781
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.280
I'd love to hear from somebody who's
got some experience with that in terms of

782
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:58.679
what what it means to say somebody
was adjudicated versus somebody pleading guilty. And

783
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.639
they've probably done your guys, your
people have probably been through this before.

784
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.159
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, you know, so you know they've

785
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:07.760
experienced some this. Okay, no
great, great first hour. We gotta

786
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.199
go to the second hour here in
about ten seconds. Okay, let's take

787
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.039
our break. We do have to
go. We will be back and we're

788
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.519
gonna take breaking news from Jason,
all kinds of stuff going on over the

789
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:21.519
last several days. And then uh
Ken Summers will talk about the firing of

790
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:22.360
Minie Williams of the Suns. We're
very pack