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on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight weekend. Now here is your
host, te Joel. We have reached

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the weekend of one of the highly
anticipated fights of twenty twenty three, at

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least on the schedule. Right now, it looks like arguably the best non

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heavyweight fight, depending on what else
happens the rest of this year in terms

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of interest. Certainly in the United
States, it's massive interested Gervante Davis,

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it's Ryan Garcia. They're both undefeated, they're finding on pay per view,

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and we are here to talk all
about that and the rest of the goings

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on in Vegas and elsewhere. As
we head into the Weekend. Hello,

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and welcome to the Big Fight Weekend
preview. I'm the somewhat competent host.

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He is our insider Dan Rayphael from
Big Fight Weekend and his fight freaks unite

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substack oel on location. As I
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No wait a minute, team Mobile
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Hotel. If I have that strait, he covers everything on the strip.

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Are you part of the Oakland A's
moving to Las Vegas? Are you part

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of that ownership deal? You're covering
all things Vegas this week. You've had

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a busy week and it's not even
fight time yet. How are you feeling

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I'm feeling great. It's been a
busy, busy couple of days since I

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got here on Wednesday. But no, I'm not part of the Oakland A's.

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I feel bad for my fellow baseball
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I never lost my major league team
growing a Yankees fan, but I remember

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how crushed I was as a long
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Double A minor league baseball games in
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countless summer nights at their minor league
ball games, and when they left us

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and went to Connecticut, I was
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life. You would like to confirm
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you and me to go watch Las
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it the Athletics or not. Anyway, there's a little baseball talk. He's

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out in Vegas. You've been busy. We've got Fight week going on as

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we speak it. We record this
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and too Friday. You are fresh
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Javonte Davis and Ryan Garcia. We
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these things go. You've been to
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in Vegas. In that building,
there were not the potential fireworks that we

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thought there could have been, right, but it was no. It was

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a good press covers. It started
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and it was very kind of mundane
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like, you know, paint by
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Oscar Dala Joya from Golden Boy,
the promoter for Ryan Garcia got up and

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started to, you know, finally
have some fighting words where he was basically

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saying the Tank team doesn't believe it
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he had to get a REMA,
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had to do the catchwait, they
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he really kind of went in on
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Leonard Ellerby, who was of course
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representing Tank. David threw Mayweather Promotions, but he's close to him. They

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promoted him for a long time,
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team for this to sort of speak
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here and as an aside, I
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my old friend Leonard Ellerby in the
media center on Wednesday, and it's kind

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of what boxing is about when some
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for a long time, and we've
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and we have a lot of water
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cool with each other. And we
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and we were standing right there in
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man, we've been around and doing
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you know, I've seen all you
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that are not here anymore that that
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etc. And he started to say
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had this whole thing back years ago
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a thing with Marcus Madonna as Gloves
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standing like five feet from where we
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said, you mean, like right
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great time. We were telling the
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You hear this big giant fight and
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gone passed, which was a great
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Ryan Garcia at the press conment,
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words and whatever you thought about oscars
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Leonard got kind of personal and basically
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While you were sleeping at the wheel
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we we took all your fighters because
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top notch PBC fighters were brought up
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you know, as early fighters in
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were all promoted by Golden Boy before
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uh, they really they went out
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spelled over. You had some some
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Jervante Davis. Um. You know, you had Joe Goosen who was the

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trainer for Ryan was very calm and
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then you had the two fighters and
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going back and forth with each other
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know, just some not terribly horrible
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really pumped up for the fight,
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J. There's always a time in
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fair enough, I mean, otherwise
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something kind of clicks and you're like, Okay, now I'm I'm ready for

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the fight to take away. It's
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the way end, or maybe it's
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whatever the case may be. I
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going back and forth with each other
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I'm for me, it's I'm not
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me, for it's it's goal time
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So I can't wait for this fight. Man. Love it again. I

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should make mention too, thank you
for finding us however you did. So.

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We're always here previewing heading into the
weekend on Fridays. We are always

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recapping coming off the weekend. It's
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Sunday into Monday with the Fight Freaks
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following or subscribing because two perfect examples. Earlier this week, we put up

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your interview with Ryan Garcia as a
standalone thing where you could hear Dan's one

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on one conversation, his recent conversation
before fight week with him where again Ryan

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kind of led his figurative hair down
a little bit and gave you some really

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great answers on all the concessions he
made, etc. Because it wasn't fight

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week yet. And then, oh, by the way, my man Rayphield

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has been hustling. I mean he's
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already interviewed the Showtime president of a
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Espanoza in the media center, and
we got that Q and A up on

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the podcast feed on the big week
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When I sat down with him,
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like ten fifteen minutes, but he
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we have a long industry together and
we were cool. So we did

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like about thirty minutes, and it
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the people, pull the curtain back
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of this one. But with so
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and Ryan fight and then all the
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Crawford and and Spence negotiations, and
it was fresh and just seemed logical to

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make it its own episode, which
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when I finally found that anute where
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Uh. I've always sort of had
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I think as as much as that
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of did it for me. What
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when Calvin Ford, who was the
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and responded to some of the stuff
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and he says, you know,
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trained for punishment. And all I
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t in the clubber laying in Rocky
three, you know, when I asked,

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how the fight? What do you
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was like that that triggered me when
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a relative kind of guy, and
he's you know, he's he's he's an

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og kind of guy. And when
when I heard him say that in the

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manner in which he said it with
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a smile. I was like,
man, I'm ready these guys. Things

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that are gonna get U gonna get
violent and the other thing. I only

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give one other moment that made me
think along the same minds. You have

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Tom Brown, who is the president. They are the lead promoter on all

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the PBC events, and so he's
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he doesn't do a lot of public
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with twenty five years and but Tom
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Stens. It is this company that
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he talked about great fights from the
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he maybe a little bit over the
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He's obviously trying to hype it up. He said, this is going to

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be like Haggler Hearns in the first
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meaning they have they have they have
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Tommy Hearns is supposedly the Ryan Garzia
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beforehand, and it's not so much
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but I thought it was like an
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of maybe even more intrigued by it. You don't really see a lot of

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families go against each other in these
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each other. You don't see father's
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against Floyd, you know, Oscar
against Floyd Jr. Uh. But

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Tom Brown is on the tank side
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these PBC events. Ryan Garcia's trainer
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Brown are brothers in law. Tom
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Hall of Fame, Dan Goosen,
who is my dear friend. Uh,

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that is Joe's brother, and so
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it's a family feud, a little
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all right, So we should make
mention to the audience here you and

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I are gonna go over some things. We're gonna make fight predictions. Another

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plug on the bet Us Boxing Show
coming one Eastern ten Pacific for Dan out

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in the Desert on Friday. So
if you are able find us live on

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Bet Us their platform's YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, etc. For the fight

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predictions themselves, not just on this
fight, but also the David Morrell undercard

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fight and also the rock Them Off
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as well. But we will go
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I'm curious. Yeah, we got
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UK, Artiff Wales, hardy Wales, not in England. In Wales experience

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different Wales, and so it's a
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You do the UK people wrong,
they'll call you bad names on social media.

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I understand that it sounds like you're
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me the bad names, but you're
saying, oh, I get called the

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C word by people on Twitter on
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So we got to get their country
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Wales is where the fight is not
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on all of that obviously with predictions, et cetera. But I love this

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part because you are there. You
have been there so many times for the

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big events, and can I say
this for the Tom Brown things settled down

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on the haggler hearns thing. I
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but settled down on that was mega
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inst like that. I understand the
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and maybe it won't. But settled
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you said that. But what is
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Wednesday to Thursday? Now we're headed
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of these. I am Beyonce around
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Media coverage assess that part for us. I'm curious. Okay, Well,

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first of all, I haven't once. I since I walked into the

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hotel front door when I got here
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left the hotel and to be quite
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until Friday. Uh, and then
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know, well, uh, you
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I'm meeting some people at a place
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fair enough, But so I don't
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the strip and whatever. That doesn't
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where you feel the event. But
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I have done a thousand times at
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they always have the signage and they
have the big And I did a piece

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today on my sub stack, and
I'll give it a plug. This is

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for my paid subscribers. If you
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I think you'll enjoy it. Where
I did what I call behind the

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scenes on a fight week Wednesday for
Davis Garcia. And it was me as

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I'm arriving in Vegas from the airport
to the hotel to all the things I

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saw, going to get my credential
and the media center, all the stuff

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I you know, did during the
day, and ran like a thing with

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a like a whole bunch of snow, like more than a dozen pictures of

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what people most people don't get a
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fight, they don't see and certainly, even if they come to the fight,

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a lot of things that they wouldn't
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the fact that I'm credential, I
can go in certain places where they wouldn't

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be allowed to go. So I
kind of tracked my day of all the

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things I did around the fight.
But they're they're the hotel. If you're

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here at the MGM, you can't
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the signs are all over, the
big lightboxes, the banners that are hanging

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up. It is impossible when you
walk near the arena. Now, the

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fight, as you mentioned, is
taking place at Timo, not in the

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MGM Grand Garden Arena, but the
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host So the fighters are staying here, all the people involved, the support

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staff, the promoters, the press. So the media center, big ballrooms

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that are right near the front door
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and you just can't miss. In
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the Giants signage up if you walk
into them. A different part of the

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casino, like where we went at
dinner last night near the sports book,

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you know, on all the outer
walls of the different establishments that got the

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signs up welcome Fight fans with the
official fight artwork. So you know they

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did play it up. This is
a huge event. They're the host,

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and there's gonna be a ton of
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fans here. Even on my flight
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were people on my flight who recognized
me who are from the DC area who

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are there as big Tank fans.
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from, is in that same region
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I saw a couple of people in
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Wednesday morning of the of the flight. Who who saw me? Uh?

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And so that always tells me if
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like you know, that's a big
deal when they're traveling and the arena is

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going to be packed. And let
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on Friday, because they a lot
of times they would have these ways inside

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the Grand Garden Arena for the biggest
fights, like they started to do like

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Canello and Floyd Mayweather years ago.
They actually for the first time open up

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the whole arena, not just a
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because on Friday night, I think
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in front of the arena, they're
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so that is not available to do
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Way in itself will take place in
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which is the outdoor area which is
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on fighting nights in front of the
Team Mobile Arena. You know, they

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have like food trucks and the merchandise
stands, and there's different restaurants that are

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along the walkway right near in New
York New York Hotel and Casino if you're

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familiar with it. But anyway,
they'll set the stage up and they'll do

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the Way and outside. It's the
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for the Triple G Canello fight,
so there'll be a lot of people that

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gather forward that way in in a
festive sort of outdoor atmosphere. I don't

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think it's going to be supposedly not
too too hot tomorrow. I don't personally

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care for the outdoor way ins.
It's not very convenient for what I have

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to do, but they don't give
them a shit about what I have to

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do. They're trying to promote the
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But so yeah, you'll the atmosphere
is everybody you go, you people say

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who do you got? I mean, that's always the name of the game

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every fight, Who do you got? Who do you got? And uh,

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you know, I have engaged in
random boxing conversations with people, and

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over the last whatever I've been here. You know, thirty something hours,

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I was coming out of the h
a little gift shop down by the elevator

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bank. I just you know,
walked in there to buy a bottle of

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water, and a guy and a
buddy of his were like, you know,

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hey, hey, who do you
got? Didn't even like they knew

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who I was, but didn't say
my name. They're like, we're gonna

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ran over and like, who do
you got? Who do you got?

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On the fight? So you know, that's cool. I mean, it's

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fun. It's everybody wants to talk
about boxing. And this is the kind

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of fight team. This is a
big enough fight from the mainstream standpoint that

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even all the people that you see
are here on sports radio, on on

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on sports television, who are busy
talking baseball, football, NBA playoffs,

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maybe hockey playoffs, whatever. Suddenly
every casual sports commentator now they're a fucking

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expert on boxing exactly, and they
think they know what they're But that's okay.

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It's our super Bowl. This is
boxing super Bowl this year, and

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every year there's one or two of
them, and for two thousand and twenty

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three until some other megafight gets made. If it does get made, Tank

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Davis and Ryan Garcia is the twenty
twenty three boxing super Bowl, if you

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will, just because of the magnitude
of the event. The conversation continues in

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moments. And by the way,
I should make mention you don't know this

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because you've been busy doing your work
duties. This is something that's not going

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to be helped apparently by ESPN,
because ESPN doesn't promote a top rank,

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doesn't promote or doesn't televise either one
of these fighters. So they have been

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largely I know you're waving at me, I'm going to finish my point.

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They have been largely ignoring this on
their sports center programs, on their on

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their ESPN dot com. They have
largely been ignoring this at least through Thursday.

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Now that may pick up on Friday
or Saturday. But if this was

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a top ranked fighter, a top
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talking about this since last weekend and
been live with a SportsCenter out there,

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etc. I'm just telling you what
I have seen, at least on Thursday.

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It's not being hyped the same by
them. Now. Fox has basically

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gotten out of the boxing part of
it for right now from what we can

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tell. So I wouldn't expect Fox
Sports, One Cable or Fox to be

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promoting it anyway. They don't really
have a news program. But I'm just

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saying that for Thursday. But go
ahead. Not that they give a fuck

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what my former employee does. My
former employer does that really don't give a

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fuck. I think they're doing a
shitty job with boxing. And you know,

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I'm on the record with that.
That's you know, that's not sour

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grapes. That's just the reality here
from people all the time that said they

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did have a major piece on the
front page of their boxing page. I

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do. I do still take a
look at it sometimes, and they did

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have a big piece about it this
week, a couple pieces in some videos,

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and I can report because I was
at the press comference. I think

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that they must have gotten here today. But ESPN has two reporters for this

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fight on site, not just one. Two people from ESPN dot com here

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to cover the fight. So take
that for word. It's worth And again

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they have they have a studio right
there because they do the daily betting show

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right across from Caesar's Palace, not
far from where you are down this trip.

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But again in terms of being their
live, the ambiance, the build

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up promoting this, it's not in
their interest and it's it's you know,

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it's not unusual. If it's not
something they're involved with, they will But

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I'll say so. I mean,
for a Wednesday, there was quite a

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bit of media of varying stripes in
the media center when I was walking in

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there, and I've seen some people
I haven't seen for a while, and

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you know, look, there's there's
not a lot from newspapers anymore. And

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that's just the world we live in. And that's not just because it's boxing.

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That's the way it is, I
think for a lot of major sports,

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for major major events in those types
of sports. But there was definitely

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more like I'll give you an example. My last trip for Las Vegas was

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in September for a Triple G Knello
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of media in attendance in the earlier
part of the week, and it didn't

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even it picked up obviously, but
not to the level I thought it would.

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people thought that fight was kind of

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overdone, given where Triple G had
was in his career and all that,

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but they're still two huge names,
Triple G and Knelo, And for Ryan

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Garcia and Jervata Davis. There was
already on Wednesday quite a bit of media

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and there was a lot of press
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you know, people are going to
know about this, and especially with the

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social media that these two guys have
and the way they've been touting it.

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And it's not just the two athletes, it's all the other people involved,

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whether it's that the promotion companies,
the networks, Oscar Delajoya with is you

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know whatever million Twitter followers or whatever's
on Instagram. So don't worry for the

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words getting out on this fight.
I mean, and you know, again

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I taking the point of viewhere.
I like to see big events for sure,

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but I never really I report the
factual information as they know about how

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it performs, whether it's the gate, where the pay per view or whatever

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revenue or whatever kind of like,
you know, report about what the ticket

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haul is. I'm a movie or
a concert tour, but I would only

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give a shit because it's not like
they're sharing the money with me. I

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don't get a diamond. The fight
doesn't million buys. The Fight does two

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buys. The big man here gets
the same. I'm making this well,

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and we should say, and we'll
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and they are. They are sponsors
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this is a crazy secondary market ticket still

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as we head into the weekend,
that they get in price right now on

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the secondary market through ticket Smarter,
you may get a better price depending probably

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not somewhere. For the upper level, the two hundred level of t Mobile

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Arena they get in price for a
non obstructive view seat is still over five

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hundred dollars. And the lower level
better seats not ringside are still over a

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thousand dollars on average, and the
ringside seats are in upwards of six thousand

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and eight thousand dollars. And what
that tells you is exactly what you've been

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saying, big event with big demand
inside the MGM grand from the fans,

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Tiamobile Arena, get that right there, Timole Arena. Yes you're in the

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mg but I'll give you a great
handcote about that. So and people can

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hear, they listen to the interview
I did with Steven Espinoza. That's that's

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on the episode of the podcast from
that just came out before this one.

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We were talking about the magnet through
the event. He was sort of giving

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me some anecdotal knowledge about the types
of folks that have been seeking tickets,

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not even freebies, like they want
a good ticket, but they'll pay for

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it. He was talking about like
Patrick Mahomes wants tickets, and he was

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mentioned various you know, top NFL
players and the different draft picks that are

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on the board, and members of
the Ravens who are friendly with Tank because

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of their Baltimore connections, who are
coming out for the fight, and members

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of the Raiders who are you know, maybe in town, whether they're working

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out at the facility or whatever.
But the going there's lots of the Hollywood

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Yeah, professional athlete class, movie
stars, musicians. It's drawing those types

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of people. So when I hear
that, I mean I covered pretty much

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every single big Floyd fight in Vegas, that Canelo fights, the Pack Yale

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fights, the Oscar fights, those
are those types of events. I mean,

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you'd walk in I remember this as
clear as day, walking into my

408
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,599
seat at the MGM for whatever fight
it was, and having like Mel Gibson

409
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,960
come over to me and say who
do you like? You know, like

410
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,640
like I'm his boy, Like he
just recognized me. Meeting like Meg Ryan

411
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,480
and seeing like Brad Pitt and Jennifer
Aniston and like all the top people you

412
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,279
could think of from like big movies. You know, Tom Cruise has been

413
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,440
at fights. You see Tiger Woods
at fights, Michael Jordan at fights,

414
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:55,599
Zel Washington, tons of them.
I mean the biggest Espinosa was making the

415
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,200
point that Lebron had asked to buy
some tickets and had to cancel because the

416
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:03,480
Lakers like game. So sure,
so I guess La will be at the

417
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,839
at the fight. Yeah, and
I'm sure he's glad to be occupied with

418
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,720
the Lakers in the plaffs. But
the point is, this is the caliber

419
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:15,119
event in the sport of boxing that
draws not only the die hard fans who

420
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,559
have been wanting to see this fight
for a long time, but also all

421
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:23,119
those movie stars and athletes and other
famous types. And it's such a big

422
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,359
deal and I found this it's pretty
remarkable. So I've mentioned to you that

423
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,519
I think it's the Friday night that
the Latin and the Latin Grammys are taking

424
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,440
place in the Grand Gardener, So
the fight, of course will be in

425
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,799
the Team Mobile arena, but on
Saturday night that the Grand Garden Arena will

426
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,359
serve as the Clark County's main I
don't know if it's the only one,

427
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,880
but certainly the biggest one. It's
the location for the closed circuit, so

428
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,480
they're gonna have They wouldn't open the
Grand Garden Arena, which holds, like,

429
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,160
you know, fifteen thousand for a
fight. They're not opening that up

430
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,559
for close circuit location. If they're
going to bring in a couple of thousand

431
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,720
people, they're gonna have probably I
don't know if it's gonna be sold out,

432
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:00,720
but you know what, ten twelve, fifteen thousand people in the Grand

433
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,680
Garden Arena to watch it on the
screen. Well there's another you know,

434
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,119
twenty thousand ish or so. You
know, I'm less than a mile away

435
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,720
at the Team Mobile watching the five
live. So that's a big deal.

436
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,079
It is a big deal, all
right. So we're looking forward to that.

437
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,519
Again. You'll give us a little
more insight on the steven Espanosa conversation

438
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,640
in a few moments where he's talking
about Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford. We

439
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:29,440
plug again. They can hear the
full conversation on the previous podcast just before

440
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,480
this one. On the feed you
hear it in its entirety. But we'll

441
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,880
go over just the Spence Crawford part
real quick in a moment or two.

442
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:40,000
But let's fill out the rest of
the undercard here. Saturday Night, Team

443
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,839
Mobile Arena, David Morrell and the
co feature w BA Secondary super Middleweight title

444
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,039
Yamaguchi foul cow. How did I
do on the pronunciation? Pretty good on

445
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,640
that? He is, Yes,
he's on the t J skelet pronunciation.

446
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,640
I'll give you look about on seven. Okay, maybe it should be about

447
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,559
an inter nine, but that's okay. You're a tough grader. He's a

448
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,240
he's a replacement though of the last
week to ten days coming in. Those

449
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,920
guys will weigh in obviously on Friday. I know you were around them a

450
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,519
little bit at the news conference.
Tell me a little more about that fighting

451
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:17,640
than what else intrigues you on this
card. Don't roll your eyes at me

452
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,519
about Gabe Rosetto and Beck the Bully, But I mean, what else intrigues

453
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:23,200
you? Go ahead, Well,
as far as Morrell and Yamagucci Falco go,

454
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,880
I actually happened to think that Falco
is a tougher opponent for David Morrell

455
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,160
than the original opponent, which was
Senate Agdecco. Senate Agecco was ruled out

456
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,880
by the NAVA a stand Athletic Commission. They didn't annuncey did not announced the

457
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,559
reason in media. Doing my due
diligence, I am told that he was

458
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,880
ruled out because during his neurological exam
they found what was termed as a very

459
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,319
very small dark spot that they went
for a second opinion on and that the

460
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,519
second opinion doctor didn't understand why he
was ruled out because he didn't think it

461
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,720
was anything. But suffice to say
that the commission is they're very careful understandably,

462
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:56,799
I mean it is about health and
safety the fighter and any Then he

463
00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:59,599
was ruled out. They got Falco
to step in. Now, Falco is

464
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,279
a tough own and he's not maybe
a great great fighter, but he was

465
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:07,240
an Olympic medalist for Brazil, a
bronze medal winner. People may recognize the

466
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,960
name. His younger brother is Esteva
Falca, who was the IBF mandatory challenger

467
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,519
in the middleweight division. He is
undefeated. He was the mandatory to fight

468
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:21,000
Gnati Glofkin, and he ended up
vacating the title because that fight was pretty

469
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:25,279
much not let's use the word commercially
viable for many different reasons than any event.

470
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,440
He comes from a boxing family,
he's a talented boxer, and they

471
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,480
both have come from good amateur backgrounds. I'm a fan of David Merrell.

472
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:34,599
I mean, I know it's only
eight noah as a professional, but he's

473
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:40,480
a decorated Cuban amateur fighter. He's
a diligent worker. He one of my

474
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,720
favorite trainers that I've dealt with in
my career in boxing is Ronnie Shields.

475
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,440
So I actually had a chance to
spend a little time with earlier today when

476
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,119
I saw him this morning, I
met David Morrell in person for the first

477
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,960
time, and when I two things. One, I didn't know that he

478
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,160
spoke English, so he was tremendous
with his English. And number two,

479
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:57,720
he was a He's a lot taller
than I thought he was. He goes

480
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,799
about six or four, but it's
like the standing next to him and see's

481
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,359
a big guy. I mean,
he definitely down the road is going to

482
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,759
be a light heavyweight. Uh.
You know, while things considered, he's

483
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:10,559
still in his mid twenties. But
he's a very talented fighter. And look,

484
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,799
the bottom line is if he Beatsamagiuchi
Falco, whatever the way it goes,

485
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:17,119
there are some huge fights in in
his future. I know a PBC

486
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,079
would love to match him up at
some point with David Benavides. That's a

487
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:23,480
tremendous matchup, a very exciting fight. And you know, for the for

488
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:29,000
the fact that Morrell has been placed
in the position of on this megafight,

489
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,279
the type of career trajectory that his
brain trust thinks he has, the people

490
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:38,400
at PBC, Showtime, TGB,
you know, his management, etc.

491
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,039
The kid has a chance to become
a big deal. He's got a big,

492
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,559
broad smile, He's as friendly as
can be. He's got a personality,

493
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,480
but he's respectful, he's humble,
and he can find his ass off.

494
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,279
He's got a lot of those ingredients
that can make him into something bigger.

495
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,440
He just needs to be seen by
the public a little bit more.

496
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:57,759
This is an opportunity in front of
a lot of people and the co feature

497
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,279
of a huge fight to meet people. Remember his name after they see this

498
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,519
particular event, so I expect him
to win. But the idea is Kenny

499
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,160
looked really good against a good,
solid opponent. I got two things for

500
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,160
you. He's been fighting in kind
of his home away from home. His

501
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680
new home is now Minneapolis, so
it's kind of been comfort zone his people.

502
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:22,119
This is a large stage. This
is a how will he handle the

503
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,759
large chase? It's the same for
foul cow, but how will he handle

504
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,359
a large stage? And the second
thing, and this is obvious you didn't

505
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,799
touch on it, but I'll touch
on it here. His last fight,

506
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,319
he brutally stopped your Bossonnule out,
your boss Anwy and your bosson NULLI was

507
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:41,960
in a coma life threatening situation.
You just wonder does that affect the guy?

508
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,359
How does that affect a guy when
that's the last time you were in

509
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,680
the ring? All right, give
me, give me something on both of

510
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,759
those points, and then we move
on. Well, I think in terms

511
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:56,319
of whether what happened in his last
fight is going to effect I think the

512
00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:00,519
answer is one percent no for a
few different reasons. Is one, I'm

513
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:05,160
not saying that it doesn't affects on
boxers, but every boxer understands the unwritten

514
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,880
role that you can die in the
ring. I mean, it's that's just

515
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,640
the fact, and they both accept
that as part of the covenant of the

516
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,319
professional boxer. But on the bright
side, he didn't die. I don't

517
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:15,759
know how he's doing exactly, but
he was well enough to go home to

518
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:19,839
Kazakhstand and go back to his family. And by my reporting was he was

519
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,359
talking and walking. And while he'll
never fight again, based on what I

520
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,920
was told, it's not like,
you know, he's going to be able

521
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,319
to have a life, and so
that's a good thing. So maybe it

522
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:34,000
would be a different scenario when David
Morrell's mind and if his opponent had succumbed

523
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,599
to the injuries or was left for
a much worse situation. But because he

524
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,319
wasn't in that scenario. And remember
David went to visit him at the hospital

525
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,960
when he was there in Minnesota,
you know, because it was happened in

526
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,440
his hometown and he lives there,
so he you know, and he's,

527
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,920
like I said, he's a nice
guy and showed a lot of concern.

528
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,400
So I think he'll be okay.
I think there's no issue there. I

529
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,039
mean, he understands that happens.
It wasn't like he did it on purpose.

530
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,880
I mean, that's just the nature
of boxing. Unfortunately it's rare,

531
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,720
but guys can get seriously injured.
So he's embracing this big stage. I

532
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,839
mean, he loves fighting at home
in Minnesota. He's become a big draw

533
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,480
there at the Armory and they've done
good crowds. But if you want to

534
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640
become a superstar, you got to
step onto the big stage. And there's

535
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,000
no bigger stage in boxing than a
big pay per view fight in Las Vegas

536
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:17,759
in the co feature of the biggest
fight of the year. I mean,

537
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,160
this is as big of a fight
as this is for Ryan Garcia and Jervian

538
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,640
to Davis to show the world what
they can do against their best opponent.

539
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,000
For David Morrell and to a lesser
degree, Falcon because he's not that you

540
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,319
know, he's the obvious b side, he's not the one with the superstar

541
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:36,680
potential. David Morrell is time for
him to show out, as they say,

542
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240
as the kids say, to let
everybody know that there's somebody else on

543
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,960
this show that's got a chance to
become a big star also. And that's

544
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440
why PBC and his team put him
in this spot, and he's fighting in

545
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,279
a hot division where you've got a
guy like Canelo Alvarez. He is a

546
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,119
mandatory for Canelo Alvarez. Let's not
forget that, because of the fact that

547
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,559
he's the secondary type holder. And
they also promote David Benavides. They also

548
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,799
are involved with Demetrius Andreidy have this, you know, Charlow at one sixty

549
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,039
Obviously he's gonna move up at some
point to one sixty eight. Point I'm

550
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,799
making is David Merrell is gonna be
around for a while and he's gonna have

551
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,320
some nice opposition to pick from over
the next few years. All right,

552
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,800
anything else? We mentioned Rosotto and
beck the Bully. Of course, that's

553
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,800
a rematch of a fight that Risotto
won with a stunning one punch knockout,

554
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,079
and Rosotto hasn't won much else since
then. And you're you're at best lukewarm

555
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,039
on this. You've made your feelings
known on previous podcasts about this, So

556
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,559
this is on the card. They're
being good to Golden Boy Promotions because Rosotto's

557
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:37,079
fight with Zerdo Ramirez was canceled as
a light heavyweight fight back three weeks ago

558
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000
or so, because Zerdo missed weight, so they're being good to them.

559
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:44,199
What about that fight and anything?
I know, a couple of paces on

560
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,760
this card? What else? What
else? Real? Quick? Well,

561
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,440
school Field's off TV, he's on
one of the streaming parts of the show.

562
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,239
But it's in terms of nobody's being
good to Golden Boy. This was

563
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,480
a negotiation and they are owed hot
spots on the undercard, so that's just

564
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:58,920
part of the deal. No one's
being nice to each other. They fucking

565
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760
hate each other. So that's that. I'm just being real. I mean,

566
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,400
no one's being nice to each other. That the negotiation, and you

567
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,639
you know, you make a deal
and you live by it. But in

568
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,280
terms of the Beck fight against Risotto, I found it interesting that Beck was

569
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,519
saying has been saying that even more
than a world championship fight, he wanted

570
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,360
a fight with gab ristto in a
rematch more because the people were watched back

571
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,599
what happened. They were in the
third round of a fight that Beck was

572
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,880
probably winning, and he got his
clock clean, he got knocked out cold.

573
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,039
It was a knockout of the year
caliber type fight type knockout. And

574
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,239
Rosatto, who I believe is one
in four in his last five fights.

575
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920
That is the only you said he
hasn't done much winning since and he's done

576
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,880
no winning since then. That's the
one win that he has, so he

577
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,079
was up for the fight. Gabe's
never turned on a tough fight. And

578
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:42,159
I know I've I've shit all over
this, uh this fight a lot,

579
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,679
but it's never been the ship on
gab Risotto because I like it. And

580
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,719
I actually saw him earlier today when
I was walking into the press conference and

581
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,840
he came over and he like kind
of you know, put his arms on

582
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,880
me and like try to scare me
and like have a little laugh with me.

583
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,639
And now did. Gabe is a
good dude, and I have nothing

584
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:59,719
but the but the most respect for
what he has done and the warrior that

585
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,519
he is and the truth be told. I mean I don't have anything against

586
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:07,519
Back. I don't really know Back, but uh, you know, in

587
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:08,960
my heart, I'd be very happy
if Rosano was able to get to win

588
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,679
a second time around. I mean
it would mean he would probably continue to

589
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,800
fight, but he's a grown man
and that's his life, in his selection

590
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,679
and his desire to do. But
uh, you know, I don't I

591
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:21,559
don't think it belongs in this kind
of pay per view, But that's me.

592
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,679
I wish him the best of luck. And the other fight, who

593
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,440
was another fighter I'm very excited about. If you watched him on his last

594
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,880
fight on showtime. Is this kid
Elijah Garcy was fourteen and oh, he's

595
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,280
taken on Kevin Salgado. He's in
the opening fight, and this kid is

596
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,639
a really electrifying kind of prospect.
Strong only nineteen years old, fourteen oh,

597
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,920
at twelve knockouts, but he made
a very big impression back in March.

598
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,719
He knocked out hamilcar View Dow who
was another undefeated fighter. He scored

599
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,559
a spectacular sort of performance in a
fourth round. Now was a good close

600
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,840
fight, but he scored a big
KO. And they have a lot of

601
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
high hopes at eighteen years old for
doing what he's been doing as a middleweight.

602
00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,840
They can move him quickly. I
would I would right now say that

603
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,960
if he does well in this particular
fight. Also, you're looking at a

604
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,559
guy that you have to consider as
the year goes on as one of those

605
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,639
guys that has the potential to maybe
at the end of the year be a

606
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,000
prospect of the year type of In
that type of situation, all right,

607
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360
good enough on the fight card.
Let's just finish up with what's going on

608
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,440
in Las Vegas. Then I want
to move on to rock him off in

609
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,199
Cordina. Then we've had a little
fight. News, little nostalgian will be

610
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:27,119
done here. On the preview,
you did speak at length with Steven Espinoza

611
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,039
of Showtime, and again they can
hear the full conversation, hear him in

612
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:35,599
his own words, but just from
being right there with him, you sounded

613
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:38,360
at the end of that interview optimistic, and you even said to him,

614
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:46,280
you and I are both really pessimists, or really people that are skeptics,

615
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:52,079
a cynical cynics about these things happening. But Esponosa said to you, I

616
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,000
really think there's a seventy five percent
chance this is going to happen, because

617
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,880
there's a major there's been at least
a major concession that he didn't think was

618
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,440
going to happen. And what I
took that to mean follow up on it,

619
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,960
is that from the Crawford camp in
particular, they're willing to forego maybe

620
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,920
some of the guaranteed money they think
they want because they realize it's not there

621
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,519
for either guy. That's just reading
between the lines on what came out before.

622
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:20,480
Even though Steven Esponosa didn't say that, he basically said without saying that,

623
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:22,800
hey, there's a major concession that
I didn't think would happen. I

624
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,880
think that's Crawford saying, I understand
I'm not going to get six eight ten

625
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,559
million guaranteed. It's not there to
make this all right? So what is

626
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,840
your read? You were right there. My read is not exactly what you

627
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,159
said. What he said was in
the last couple of weeks and you didn't

628
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:37,960
want to say who it was or
how much it was, but that one

629
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,199
of the sides made up what he
termed I believe was a major concession on

630
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,239
what the split was. That's not
when you say split, that's not a

631
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,679
guaranteed split is the percentage of what
your take would be of the revenue from

632
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:53,239
your side of the equation. And
so I didn't read into it one way

633
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,440
or the other. I do suspect
if you stuck a gun demand that that

634
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,760
would be Crawford, because I believe, for different reasons that the Spence side

635
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,639
has been good to go for a
while, and this is not a matter

636
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,360
of Arrol can't come to an agreement
on this that or the other. It's

637
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,239
really about getting Crawford to come around
and and and match up the philosophy of

638
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,400
how to run the event and how
they're gonna do the revenues and the whole

639
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:23,159
nine yards that they got to get
Crawford to come around completely. And Crawford

640
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,039
is a stubborn individual. That's not
a knock on him. That's just his

641
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:30,119
personality trait. It's one of the
things that has made him a great fighter.

642
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:36,039
And he said seventy five percent he
felt confident. And but again,

643
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920
you could tell me you're one percent
confident or you're ninety nine percent confident,

644
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:43,840
and nothing fucking matters until they got
a done deal. As we joked around

645
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:47,039
point one left to do, you
still got to do the point one left

646
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:51,800
to do. So until it's signed, nothing's there. But the point was

647
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,840
also there has been so much terrible
reporting from some of my boxing reporting colleagues.

648
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,519
And I'm not gonna throw anybody under
a bus, but there they did

649
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:06,400
a shit job in reporting what they
reported. He said very specifically, and

650
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:12,000
I believe Steve when he says this, The fight never was ever contemplated,

651
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:15,280
nor will it be. On June
seventeenth. That was a date that was

652
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,719
going around. There was never a
plan to do a press conference on Saturday.

653
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,440
He did make the point that,
yes, could that change if suddenly

654
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,239
there's some NEGA breakthrough in the next
forty eight hours and they decide to sign

655
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880
papers and get it done. Because
I can tell you one thing, they

656
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,519
ain't gonna do a press comments tell
there's a signed contract because they're not going

657
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:35,840
to play games were signed. But
I mean that that's happened. There's been

658
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:38,960
ship that gets done where you might
not have a document, you know,

659
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:44,880
officially signed and contracted, and they
and everybody is comfortable enough with each other

660
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,760
to go through it while they tidy
up the paper. But on this type

661
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,880
of event, they ain't gonna do
ship like that. You're going to see

662
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,119
signatures or there's not going to be
any promotion whatsoever. So again, if

663
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,760
they everybody goes to bed Thursday night
thinking okay, there's nothing done, in

664
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,559
some they work through the night and
they get something done on Friday, it's

665
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:05,880
not out of the realm. They
could still announce something, but it won't

666
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,559
be June seventeenth. From what Steve
said, and uh, you know,

667
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:09,920
he said, if it does happen. He thinks it will be later in

668
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,320
the summer. I jokingly said,
so it's not June seventeen, I mean

669
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,320
June twenty fourth, and he laughed
and said, no, no, no.

670
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:16,800
And that's what that means to me
is if they can get the fucking

671
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:23,400
fight done, it'll probably be like
July or August, right before football.

672
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,480
But we and we should say a
couple of more things about this and then

673
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,760
and then we'll move on. He
was making mention. You reported this too.

674
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,559
Errol Spence was already going to be
at this fight. So that's leading

675
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:38,360
to the speculation, Oh, there
must be an announcement. Nobody knows for

676
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:44,000
sure, but Terence Crawford maybe at
this fight. To coc Davis and Garcia.

677
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,280
Big fights like this draw the big
personalities up, so that that in

678
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:51,760
himself doesn't mean anything that those guys
were going to be there. So that's

679
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,000
where people were trying to connect dots
on that. And one more point,

680
00:41:55,039 --> 00:42:00,320
because we know this because Errol Spence
admitted this, that part of the negotiating

681
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,440
breaking down was that neither fighter and
Crawford didn't want this was going to get

682
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,840
guaranteed money for the previous talks,
and that's what and then what, as

683
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,599
you said, what we did know
as Crawford was already down the road with

684
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:15,920
BLK Prime to give him guaranteed money
to have a pay per view fight in

685
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,360
his hometown, and he took door
number two in that time period in the

686
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,360
interim, so we do know that
that was part of the concern before.

687
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,159
We'll see if and when it gets
worked out. Let's just hope, let's

688
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:28,679
hope it does. Let's hope it
does for later this summer. We've waited,

689
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,599
We've waited far too long, when, as you have said, they're

690
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:36,440
not impediments here from a broadcaster standpoint
or a promoter standpoint. Figure it out.

691
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,119
Figure it out. This is the
only thing about it. I said

692
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,360
this to Steve as well. There's
no other fight of any kind that Errol

693
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,280
Spence could have that anybody would really
give a shit about right now, And

694
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,880
the same ghost for Terence Crawford.
They've cleaned. I mean, Crawford didn't

695
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,400
get as many of the guys,
but the division has been cleaned. They're

696
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,840
the last men's standing. I went
through the late amir Con and Kelly Brooker

697
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:07,280
retired, Sean Porters retired, Andre
Purdo was retired. Keith Thurman is playing

698
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
out the string. Uh, you
know, that's a good fight, but

699
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,440
it doesn't really mean a whole lot. Danny Garcia is playing out the string

700
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,920
at one fifty four, Lamon Peterson
is retired. In other words, all

701
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,400
of the guys in and around their
group. I mean, Ugas is there,

702
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,519
but that doesn't really mean a lot
at the moment, he's coming off

703
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:27,079
of an injury. Manny Pacou is
retired thinking about coming out of retirement.

704
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,960
But again, those are not big
megafights relative to Crawford. There's no other

705
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:36,320
fight that anybody cares about. Amen, and and and there shouldn't be any

706
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,440
And by the way, it's fucking
undisputed. That's like when you go in

707
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,559
the Hall of Fame and that's like
in the first line of your bio.

708
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:50,280
Well, you know Terrence Crawford or
Errol Spencer, who was the undisputed walterweight

709
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,599
champion, blah blah blah blah.
So that's the deal. And so I

710
00:43:53,679 --> 00:44:00,800
do think that unless you know they're
just I can't want to insult people,

711
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,159
but I see no way that this
shouldn't get done. But again, I'm

712
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,679
not gonna get crazy about it,
because I We've said this a thousand times.

713
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,880
I've seen these types of things more
times than I care to count.

714
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,719
That fall apart. We just saw
what happened with Tyson Fury and Alexander Russik

715
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,800
just a you know what, a
month ago. So but this one feels

716
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:25,159
as skeptical as you may be.
I see at the tunnel, I guess,

717
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,039
but if it doesn't happen, it
doesn't happen. But the thing that

718
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,440
that Steve said, as I joke
with him, of all the different people

719
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,559
in this business I know and talk
to on a regular basis, I jokingly

720
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:38,719
and it's true, like he's probably
one of the most cynical that there is,

721
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,800
and I am of the same sort
of belief. So when I hear

722
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,400
him have positive vibes, it does
sort of move me a little bit.

723
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,599
But hopefully they'll get it done and
we'll see a big fight this summer.

724
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,440
We will continue with more on Javonte
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725
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:57,639
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726
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736
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,039
It is all part of PPV dot
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737
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738
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,519
have any subscription. If you're thinking
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739
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,719
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740
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dot Com. We do know there
is an IBF world title fight coming and

741
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:12,960
we're interested in this for rock'em
Off and Joe Cordina that are going to

742
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:19,800
do battle for the IBF super Featherweight
world title Cardiff Wales. As you said

743
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,920
to me earlier, that is coming
Saturday afternoon US time, Saturday night Primetime

744
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,320
match Room Boxing main event. Cordina
coming off of a hand injury. All

745
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,000
right, So give me more on
this because this will kind of be the

746
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,760
entree at least in the United States
to leading up to the pay per view

747
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:36,440
with Davis and Garcia. Gave me
a little bit on this please real quick.

748
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,199
So it's the main event on the
Zone show. And uh, you

749
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:42,800
know Cordina was was a top amateur, an Olympian, and he ends up

750
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,400
winning the world title, the IBF
one hundred thirty pound title spectacular knockout out

751
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,679
a knockout of the ear type of
knockout in June of twenty twenty two against

752
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,079
kenchi Ogawa, an excellent fighter from
Japan, and just added nowhere flatandum and

753
00:46:54,199 --> 00:47:00,239
his mandatory was due against Rockemoff schab
At Rockemoff who might people might know from

754
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,440
his draw with Joe Joseph Diez Junior
and a couple other fights he has had

755
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,039
on American broadcasters. In any event, that fight ended up not happening because

756
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Cordina injured the hand that had have
surgery here he already had used a medical

757
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,159
exemption with the IBF, and because
the mandatory was due, they stripped him

758
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:21,679
of the title. And the only
silver lining was that match Room, his

759
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,119
promoter, and you know the IBF, they were like, okay, you're

760
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:27,679
going to get the shot at the
winner of the VACAN title. So Rockhemov

761
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,920
got its opportunity to fight Zelpha Barrett
for the vacant title and Rock Him Up

762
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,760
won that fight. And now Cordinez
had the hand that he'll had surgery,

763
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,360
and now he's getting back in the
ring, And so from his perspective,

764
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,039
I wrote some of his comments on
one of my pieces this week. He

765
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,559
feels like he's going in as a
defending champion because he won the title on

766
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,920
a great knockout. He never lost
the title, and now he's fighting the

767
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,000
guy he was supported to fight anyway. But for rock Him Off, he'll

768
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,079
be making his first title events and
it's somewhat of an intriguing fight. I

769
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:58,599
mean, they're both undefeated. Rockimov
just has the one blemish on his record

770
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:00,119
as a draw against Joseph diez Wich
was a pretty good fight with the jar

771
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Drop that was back in twenty twenty
one. But it's I think that it

772
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,199
lends itself to the possibility of being
a good, exciting fight. Rockamob is

773
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,760
trained by Freddie Roach, the great
Hall of Famer. He does his training

774
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,000
camp in the in the Wildcard Gym
in Hollywood, California. It's got a

775
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,719
good team behind him. He's met
the same with Eggis Cleanis who was the

776
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,000
manager for Alexander Ussek, who will
manage for you know, throughout his entire

777
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:28,679
career, Sergey Kovalev. So you
know they're not they believe in this guy,

778
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,320
So we'll see. I mean,
it should be a pretty good matchup,

779
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,400
all right. So again that is
the Zone match room show earlier on

780
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,800
Saturday. A couple more things,
a couple of news items and then a

781
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,639
little nostalgia and then we're gonna be
done here. All right. We've got

782
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:49,480
a positive drug test that is nixing
the scheduled main event showtime PBC for Albert

783
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:52,480
Poyo and Roley Romero schedule for May
thirteenth. Give us a little more of

784
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,960
the details, and there's going to
be a replacement fight that would have been

785
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,199
the main event fight. So go
ahead damn with the latest. Yeah,

786
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,239
so as I was traveling here to
last because on Wednesday, our buddy Keith

787
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,920
Ide from boxing scene and broke the
story that Alberta Pueo, who was the

788
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:09,320
WBAS Junior welterweight champion, who had
won that vacant title on Show of Time,

789
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,760
one of the belts that Josh Taylor
had given up or was tripped up

790
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,559
when he decided to pursue the Catterrell
rematch. It is now not happening.

791
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:20,239
In an event, Queo won that
belt and he was making his first defense

792
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,239
against Roley Romero in the main event
Oncho Time e thirteenth at the Cosmopaltan here

793
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,519
in Las Vegas, and he had
a VODA test return that said he was

794
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,320
positive for a chlomaphine, which is
the same substance we have talked about because

795
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:36,000
it's been very pot in the news
because it's the same band substance that that

796
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,119
Connor Ben that tested positive for twice
that has caused all of that drama.

797
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,480
In any event, that that fight
is now off, he's out of the

798
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,119
out of the fight, and they
are working diligently to make a replacement fight

799
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:51,079
because Showtime is not going to lose
the card, and you know, they

800
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:53,119
all admit that Roly Romero was the
A side of that event anyway, So

801
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:59,360
the likelihood is that he will now
face Ishmael Barroso, a Venezuelan fighter who

802
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,639
was already edle to be on the
undercard, who is the mandatory challenger for

803
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,320
that belt. But I agreed to
step aside to let the Romero fight happen.

804
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,559
And so now it looks like you'll
see Romeo against Alberto against Romero against

805
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:16,559
Barosso, either for the interim title
or perhaps for the full title if it

806
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:22,519
is depending on what the WBA doesn't
what the outcome of their investigation or whatever

807
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,519
they go through their due diligence.
Remember, the fight's not for a few

808
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:27,719
more weeks, so there's some time
for them to get their stuff together.

809
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,920
But the main thing is that the
card will still happen. They'll still be

810
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,599
that show and us, you know, as they say, he's got some

811
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:38,280
explaining to them and we'll see what
he has to say again or maybe the

812
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,400
problem here though it is this TJ. You know we talked about, like

813
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,880
colomaphine does have reasons that people would
use it, but the problem is it

814
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,280
is a banned substance at all times, a lot of coding if you even

815
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,880
if you use it for a legitimate
reason. The problem is, it's not

816
00:50:55,559 --> 00:51:00,960
if it was the WBC's Queen Boxing
program, you could scare because they would

817
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,800
make an assessment of whether you did
it on purpose cheat as it just But

818
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,159
in the world that I live in
here in American boxing jurisprudence and the VATA

819
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:15,679
State Athletic Commission rules, it's about
strict liability, which I've explained in many

820
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,440
times. It's not why it's in
your system, it's that it is in

821
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:21,239
your system. And if it isn't
your system, you're in troubable period.

822
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,719
Now, if he's got a good
reason, maybe they'll give him a little

823
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,519
bit of a lesser punishment, but
he's got to take as unless and this

824
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:30,719
is extremely rare, so but you
have to make it. That is a

825
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,880
past, you know, as they
say in the movie. So there's a

826
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,840
chance that the b Samplefie likes to
have it tested, it could come back

827
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,880
different, which would then throw that
into a question, But the chances are

828
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,840
minuscule that it would be anything other
than another positive test for that particular substance,

829
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,400
and so we'll see as they go
through the process. But the main

830
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,760
thing is there's a reasonably good chance
that Alberto Puyo is well, he's not

831
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,119
going to fight make their death,
and that that title may be stripped,

832
00:51:57,159 --> 00:52:00,840
and we'll see Roy Romero fight against
Ishmael Barroso, who was doing the title

833
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,119
shot anyway, just against the other
guy. All right, so good enough

834
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:07,760
on that. And again, I'm
somebody we talked about this with the Connor

835
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,239
Ben stuff. I'm somebody that took
chlomaphine or chlomid while my wife and I

836
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,559
were going through fertility treatment. Your
body does not, the male body does

837
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:22,960
not normally make this. So again
to you to your point about strict liability

838
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:29,079
or you're responsible for whatever's in your
system. There it is for POS A

839
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:30,639
little plug by the way, if
you if anybody out there, if if

840
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:34,039
you're not, first of all,
you're not signed up and reading my newsletter,

841
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,199
what's wrong with you? If you're
a boxing can listening to our podcast.

842
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:37,800
But what you should do is go
take a look at the notebook that

843
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,719
I published, like Thursday, what
is it late Wednesday night, early Thursday?

844
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,320
Right? I in my reporting,
I got a copy of the official

845
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:51,559
letter from Vada that was sent to
everybody involved with detailing when he tested positive,

846
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:53,119
what he tests a positive for it
into particulars, and you can read

847
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:57,960
the full letter as Vada sent it
on in my recent notebooks, I keep

848
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,559
saying, that's why you're you,
That's why you're out there on in Las

849
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:02,000
Vegas getting all of this done.
All right, good news, just real

850
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:07,719
quick. Virgil Ortiz seems to be
much better from this blood disorder. Again,

851
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,719
you say, cynic, I'm skeptic. I'm skeptical that this is not

852
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,159
career threatening for him. Let's hope
he can get back on track to fight

853
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:20,119
Stanionis, a fight that's now been
twice delayed. Stanionis' is a WBA eliminator,

854
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,679
top contender, whatever you want to
call regular, extra value meal,

855
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,480
whatever you want to call it.
For Spence's World Championship is WBA version of

856
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,480
the wel toweight world title. But
Stanionis had the appendix, had the appendicitis.

857
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,039
Now we've got the blood disorder that
Ortiz has had two times trying to

858
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:38,920
come back from. But they at
least now have a target date. Tell

859
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,639
us more on your reporting on when
this may be back in the ring real

860
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,760
quick. Yeah, So I was
talking a few days ago with Eric Gomez,

861
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,960
who was the president of Golden Waite
Promotions, who was the promoter for

862
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:52,440
Virgil Ortis as well as obviously the
promoter for Ryan Garcia. Well actually saw

863
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:54,039
earlier today. I talked to Eric
all the time, but I hadn't seen

864
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:58,800
him in person in a couple of
years for various reasons, pandemic part of

865
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,320
it. In any event, he
tells me that Virgil is doing much better.

866
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,719
He's ready to go back in the
gym, getting ready to train and

867
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,000
and be prepared for this fight.
Hopefully they can wrap everybody in bubble wrap

868
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,079
and no more medical problems or injuries
or anything like that, and they will

869
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:14,880
do this fight. The date that
it's supposed to take place now still as

870
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,800
the main event on the Zone,
will be July eighth. Originally, it

871
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,119
was supposed to take place in Arlington, Texas, at an arena there which

872
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:22,880
is right outside of Grand Prairie,
which is where Virgil is from, so

873
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,119
it's going to be a home home. It was supposed to be a home

874
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,800
game for Virgil, but that building, apparently from what Eric tells me,

875
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,719
is not available on July eighth,
So they're still looking for any venue to

876
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,639
hold that. I know they would
still like to have it somewhere in that

877
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,719
part of Texas. But in an
event, the more important than where the

878
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,199
fight's going to take place is that
the fight's supposed to take place July eighth.

879
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:43,159
It's it's a terrific fight. I
mean, they're both undefeated, they're

880
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:45,800
both on the younger side, they
both make good fights. It is for

881
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:51,320
stanionss regular title in the welterweight WBA, and the winner obviously will be there

882
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,880
for the Spence or a vacant title
where elevated, whatever if Spence decides not

883
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,119
to continue in the division, whatever
happens with Crawford, if it ever gets

884
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:01,280
done. In an event, the
bottom line is instead of having a tremendous

885
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,320
matchup that we hope that've had in
the earlier part of the year and then

886
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:08,280
in March or whenever it was supposed
to be, now, we'll just see

887
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,440
it at some time in the summer, and as long as they get it

888
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,079
on, I can't. That's a
really good fighting Love that, all right,

889
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,280
and one piece of nostalgia before we're
done. You were telling me this

890
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,920
just before we hit the record button
that Floyd Mayweather has so many different anniversaries

891
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:28,800
in and around April, May,
June and summers and twenty one years ago,

892
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,519
correct, on Thursday, Thursday night, as we're taping April the twentieth

893
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:36,760
of O two, he had the
first of his fights with Castile. Right,

894
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,239
I was a Luis Castillo so anniversary
and you have a little memorabilia from

895
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,840
that as well. You're feeling a
little nostalgic while you're in Vegas for this.

896
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:47,239
Yeah, like I said to you
earlier, I'd met up with Leonard

897
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,280
Ellerbee in the media center and Leonard, of course has been working with Floyd

898
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,320
for most of Floyd's career. Back
then, you know, he wasn't a

899
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,239
promoter or CEO of the company.
I think that he was part of Floyd's

900
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,480
team as a strength and conditioning coach
and was with him in the gym,

901
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,760
you know, working with his with
his with this team with a Roger Mayweather

902
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,880
who was the trainer his uncle,
and and that fight took place twenty one

903
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:15,239
years ago here in the MGM Grand
So you know, it's it's all these

904
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,039
big anniversaries. So many of those
big fights, especially Floyd fights, were

905
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:21,199
here. But That was a very
interesting fight. Remember Floyd, he had

906
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:23,800
been the long reigning champion of the
WBC in the one hundred thirty pound way

907
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:29,960
class, had been looking spectacular,
had knocked out angel Man freddie had totally

908
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,400
dominated and destroyed to win the title. Janaro Hernandez, the late grade fighter.

909
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:39,559
He had defeated in a dominating fashion
and a tremendous performance probably I still

910
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:44,400
consider maybe the best of his whole
career. You know, in the first

911
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,400
fight that I ever covered here in
this building in the MGM grand in person

912
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,039
as domination of and stoppage of Diego
Cheego corrals. But when he was done

913
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:55,639
in one hundred and thirty pounds,
he didn't waste time. He went right

914
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:58,960
for the number one guy at one
hundred and thirty five, and at that

915
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,119
time was jo Luis Guestio, who
had kind of come out of nowhere.

916
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:07,079
He had been known as the top
sparring partner for Julio Caesar Chavez Senior,

917
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:13,159
and he then got an opportunity to
fight Stevie Johnston for the WBC title.

918
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,760
A matter of fact, when he
beats Stevie Johnson to win that title,

919
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:21,039
I was at that fight in a
parking lot of a casino in Los Angeles

920
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:25,920
on a like a monstrously hot day. It was the day of Dale Lajoia

921
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:30,719
Mosley won, which was the first
boxing match I ever covered in person in

922
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,039
Los Angeles. And I went to
that fight thinking it was indoors, not

923
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,559
rolling it was outdoors, and got
badly sunburned. But I saw Jose Luis

924
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:44,039
Guestillo take that title from Stevie Johnson, who was a consummate boxer, and

925
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,199
he ended up later defending that title
when Floyd moved up. They were both

926
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,920
with top rank at the time,
and they put on a heck of a

927
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,599
fight on HBO here at the MGM
Grand Garden Arena, and a lot of

928
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:59,400
people, well to this day say
that's the time that Floyd maybel whether lost

929
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,559
a professional fight. He ended up
getting the decision one sixteen one to eleven

930
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:07,119
one fifteen one eleven twice, But
there's a lot of people out there that

931
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,480
thought that he got beat that night. Harold Letterman, the late great fish

932
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:14,599
unofficial scorer for HBO for many years, who always called these things down the

933
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:17,400
middle, he had Castillo winning that, not that it's the end all be

934
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,320
all, as we say. Many
things. But the kybox, the compy

935
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,519
box statistics favored Kisti, who in
that fight in most of the categories.

936
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:27,599
I didn't I was covering boxing at
that time. I did not attend the

937
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:30,920
fight in person. I was watching
on HBO. But I scored that fight

938
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,559
on paper. I had that at
draw one fourteen to one fourteen, so

939
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,440
still not a Floyd and they whether
victory ASO by that score, you would

940
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,360
think if it was a draw,
obviously Kistio would have retained the title.

941
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,719
But that was the closest that Floyd
ever came to a loss in my mind

942
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,320
and most people's minds. And I
always have looked at like there's moments that

943
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,480
may have changed the course of boxing
history. I've I've alluded to if Roy

944
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,880
Jones hadn't come back to light heavyweight
and they were able to finalize the deal

945
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,480
from this state heavyweight and fight he
Vander Holyfield, There'd have been a whole

946
00:58:55,519 --> 00:59:00,000
different thing that would have happened on
that line. If Floyd Mayweather had gotten

947
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,239
lost that night and that oh guy
went by by, I think a lot

948
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,159
of things might have been different about
the rest of his career. Not that

949
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:08,440
he wouldn't have continued to win.
Sure, there might have been other fights

950
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:13,159
he would have been willing to take
now that the perfect record was gone.

951
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,320
He did fight win an immediate rematch
in that fight he did win, and

952
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,400
another close decision that was the one
that he probably that he did deserve to

953
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,280
win, as close as it was. But to think that that was all

954
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,599
these years ago here in this building, and I was talking about with Leonard

955
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:30,199
Ellerby, and I actually showed him
because as you know what people read the

956
00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:32,679
newsletter, I put up my memorabilia
and the show and tell section. I

957
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,639
have one of those big giant light
box posters from that fight in my collection.

958
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:40,679
And I sent him the text message
of the of the of the photo

959
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,800
of that poster for a little nostalgia
to make him feel just as old as

960
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,239
I felt when I saw that you
are something else. And I keep saying

961
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:51,400
that when it's all said and done, I want to be curator of the

962
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,079
ray Field Collection, the ray Field
Museum, with all your memorabilia, So

963
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:57,239
that Floyd Castile fight, if they
want to look it up YouTube, et

964
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,960
cetera, twenty one years ago of
that one. Let's see if we get

965
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,440
a barn burner with your Vante Davis
and Ryan Garcia again. You and I

966
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,639
will make fight predictions on the bet
US Show as you're hearing us as this

967
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:13,719
podcast release. Bet US Live Show
one Eastern time, Dana's in Vegas ten

968
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,039
Pacific time coming. Will make some
predictions on that, including the Rock Them

969
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:22,199
Off Cordina world title fighting Cardiff Wales. Thank you earlier in the day US

970
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,519
time that'll be taking place when my
predictions on all of those. Look forward

971
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:29,760
to that and no matter what happens, including Raphael trying to get in on

972
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320
the ownership group of the Las Vegas
Athletics, no matter what happens, will

973
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,280
recap it all on the Fight Freaks
Unite recap off the weekend. You and

974
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,840
I got to work that out because
you're probably traveling on Sunday. We've got

975
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,000
to figure that out. But the
peeps know it will be there Monday.

976
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:45,719
We're not guaranteeing a time, but
it will be there Monday on the Fight

977
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,480
Freaks Unite Recap when it's all done. I know you're anxious to cover all

978
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
this. We're anxious to see what
happens with Garcia and Davis. We can't

979
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:59,159
oversell that. Both guys are undefeated. They are in the primes of their

980
01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:02,320
careers. Let's see, it's a
big stage for Ryan Garcia on pay per

981
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,360
view that he's not really been on. Davis has been on the paper.

982
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,039
Use let's see how everybody handles it. Why don't we do this? Why

983
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:12,280
don't you and I reconvene live on
bet us coming up at one Eastern time

984
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,000
on Friday. How do you feel
about that? You're good? That sounds

985
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,920
good. I'm so wished you wash
you on might pick for this fight,

986
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,199
though I still haven't come up with
what I'm doing. Just don't blame me

987
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,039
with whatever you pick if it doesn't
turn out to be right, because you

988
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:25,760
couldn't decide it is. It's a
fairly even fight on the odds too,

989
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,039
so a lot of intrigue will make
the predictions on the show. Great work

990
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,599
with the interviews and all the stuff. Keep hustling and again we'll talk to

991
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:36,239
you not only on the bet Us
show, but recap it all when the

992
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:38,280
pay per view is done. We'll
come off the weekend with a recap right

993
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,239
here. Make sure you're following or
subscribing. Thank you, Dan, Raphael,

994
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,280
have a blast. Thank you sir. There is our insider from Big

995
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,880
Fight Weekend dot Com and his Fight
preach Unite Substack. I'm merely t.

996
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,199
J. Reeves. Follow or subscribe
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997
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998
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Apple Podcasts, Google podcast, Spotify. For now, we're good. Let's

999
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,679
see what happened Davis and Garcia bet
us live show Friday at one. As

1000
01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:06,800
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1001
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